I agree that it was a dumb move to remove the screen. Even dumber one to admit that it was one of the 'most expensive' parts in the unit.
touch Sensitive? Without motorized faders what's the point? I know what button/fader/ rotary I'm touching...
Take out screen to add a touch switch system for missing screen (touch sens sounds better than 2 screens) remove hardware options to add 'specialised' automap software... Sounds like a bunch of marketing hype to me. Not to mention it is the pinkest!
A total of 79 thumbs up for the guy who pissed all over America for no reason and then touted his superiority for being a millionaire (definitely fallaciously anyway)? It's one thing to defend yourself and another to come off as more of a jerk than the person against whom you're defending yourself. If you think you're so much better than the lowly losers making a mere five figures, at least get better at convincing people you are.
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Its a shame its got the crossfader on it - pretty much makes this a DJ performance tool (which no DJs will ever use because of them are still confused by mixing two tracks together on turntables nevermind triggering 8 tracks of loops in Ableton!)
Would be nice to have a budget version of the Equininox MX a proper mock console controller not trying to be all things to all people...
compared to sl mk1 this seems like a step sideways rather than forwards because the rotarys gain led's but then the sliders and other controls completely lose their screen. As an sl61 mk1 user (with 2 screens) one of the most disturbing things for me is looking at the sl mk2 FAQ's page on Novations website and realising the top question is how to turn touch sensitivity of the controls (the only other difference over MK1) OFF!!??
I get the feeling that the mk2 is a cost cutting lemon....
i agree completely they added a few great things led backlit buttons better drum pads led rings bigger faders but then screwed with alot of the functionality of it.
sort it out novation stop screwing with a once great formula or keep doing it so i can buy more old gear for cheap :D
"The most anticipated product", talk about mishype. The MK2 is a pure cost saving piece of shit. Removing 1 LCD (one of the most expensive parts of the design), thus making the right hand side hard to use.
Then they went and added a crossfader which is useless AND ugly (a DJ will use another controller, not this!).
And then we have the touch sensitive knobs, which is nice but nothing more complicated than electric current measuring resistance, so it wasn't expensive to add.
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Suprisingly this cost more than "regularmagnolia" is ever worth. The price is not too steep nor too cheap. You should probably find a better job than working at Mcdonalds if you're to complain about prices.
What functionality did they screw with? I only see an LCD removed. The selling point is mainly Automap, not LCD screens. You dont need LCD screens to use this, when you have Automap, touch sensitivity, and everything is on your monitor(s) if anything else.
j03tv: 9 WORDS: WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR READING COMPREHENSION? I NEVER said that I couldn't afford one.
I said, and I quote: "Shame that they removed one of the LCD screens, that was a COST CUT too far". Your profile says you're from the U.S. so you should know the meaning of the phrase "a cost cut too far", meaning they sacrificed too much to save some manufacturing money. They've admitted the screen was removed to save $, and pretty much every reviewer agrees that it was a step back.
And to address your (very) strange second point saying that "this costs more than you will ever be worth", that's a strange thing to say to someone you don't know. I'm actually a millionaire. That was completely uncalled for.
And surprise: I actually have TWO Remote 49 SL's in my studio. One MK1 and one MK2. I love the touch sensitivity of the MK2 model, which is why I got it. However, I, like most people, would have been happy to pay $10 more for a model with 2 LCDs like MK1 had...
@regularmagnolia Why would a millionaire be fucking around with high street affordable gear like Novation? And why would a millionaire be wasting time squabbling with other dicks on YouTube? Haven't you got money to spend or something more exciting to do?
How many screens do you need? The controller is so intuitive, you can see everything from the GUI and the "cheap" touch sensitivity means whatever row is touched is displayed on the screen, making the second screen redundant really.
(1) I have been test driving a Novation SL mk2 25 today at my local Digital Village store for over 3 hours (thanks DV!) with Reaper and Cubase 5. My impressions:
CONS:
- Build quality not great. The black (old) M-Audio Axiom, which I own, is made from better plastics.
- Mod/pitch bend stick feels flimsy and spring makes noises at least on the one I tried.
- 270º knobs too stiff, while the endless rotary pots feel just perfect.
I think it's a personal preference. Automap does work the way it is supposed to and it make it easy to map controls in Cubase. The only reason why I would buy the Novation SL is because Cubase makes it stupidly hard to map controllers. However other software such as REAPER, Reason, Live and Sonar have pretty good built-in MIDI-learn capabilities which are enough for me. However for a live gig you might benefit from Automap. Personally I found the hardware to be flimsy.
What a bunch of crock of shit..this is suppose to be product of 2009 hahahah> you guys are the easte bunnies of hype! You guys are going backward..where is the LCD ? hahaha What a joke!
I agree that it was a dumb move to remove the screen. Even dumber one to admit that it was one of the 'most expensive' parts in the unit.
touch Sensitive? Without motorized faders what's the point? I know what button/fader/ rotary I'm touching...
Take out screen to add a touch switch system for missing screen (touch sens sounds better than 2 screens) remove hardware options to add 'specialised' automap software... Sounds like a bunch of marketing hype to me. Not to mention it is the pinkest!
robinloops 1 month ago
are the faders motorized?
dotcombatgames 4 months ago
@dotcombatgames -]. I've seen LOADS of videos and (I may still be wrong) but I can honestly answer "nope" hehe .[-
TEMPHUiBIS 1 month ago
I didn't know that idiots argued on youtubes of gear. That's rather troubling.
TheBronxUberVillain 4 months ago
it's only £199 *buys
psp10004 4 months ago
why not a long lcd and 18 faders..a big version of MKII for mixdown complete on hands...? :) i like this controler...
IcarusTuga7 10 months ago
A total of 79 thumbs up for the guy who pissed all over America for no reason and then touted his superiority for being a millionaire (definitely fallaciously anyway)? It's one thing to defend yourself and another to come off as more of a jerk than the person against whom you're defending yourself. If you think you're so much better than the lowly losers making a mere five figures, at least get better at convincing people you are.
BaronvonCase 1 year ago
the salesman sounds drunk.
bryan350z 1 year ago 6
why dont they put the screen in in the middle?
or have no screeen at all to get the price down.
That just looks confusing.
kil0z 1 year ago
hi , would you be able to use this with lets say... fl studio ?
markjameswhyte 1 year ago
Are the faders motorized?
cinemats 1 year ago 2
@cinemats No.
ikeaaron 1 year ago
what si differense between mk2 sl and remote sl? looks like similar, but mk2 does more work,does it?
andrewch8 1 year ago
Nice like the SL MK . but no x-y controller and joyStick (just a cross fader)
hmmm combined with my triton that has a joystick and ribbon ...
The Zero Would Still be Nice
ThaJSpraya 1 year ago
Would've love to see some more details in the video...
kb1629 1 year ago
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youtube comment fiiiiiiiiiight lolol
suppliable 2 years ago
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Its a shame its got the crossfader on it - pretty much makes this a DJ performance tool (which no DJs will ever use because of them are still confused by mixing two tracks together on turntables nevermind triggering 8 tracks of loops in Ableton!)
Would be nice to have a budget version of the Equininox MX a proper mock console controller not trying to be all things to all people...
TheDanielShepherd 2 years ago
@TheDanielShepherd idiot
stoph2 1 year ago
yhyh mines on its way woop woop
MITCHELLPRODUCTIONS1 2 years ago
HI!
This device can control more than 8 tracks on ableton live? may be 16 or 32?? with all parameters? pan, solo, mute, arm, anything?
THANKS!
remixerone 2 years ago
Yes there are buttons to move through banks of 8 tracks.
mrpeanut25 2 years ago
at least it looks nice :)
flip18o 2 years ago
novation products always had worse build quality than the CMF (chinese designed controllers)...get it right, british blokes!
lavakava 2 years ago
compared to sl mk1 this seems like a step sideways rather than forwards because the rotarys gain led's but then the sliders and other controls completely lose their screen. As an sl61 mk1 user (with 2 screens) one of the most disturbing things for me is looking at the sl mk2 FAQ's page on Novations website and realising the top question is how to turn touch sensitivity of the controls (the only other difference over MK1) OFF!!??
I get the feeling that the mk2 is a cost cutting lemon....
AshleyBellamy 2 years ago 22
i've had the same feeling. i myself own a zero sl mk1. works well so far, but imo they screwed up their automap system heaps
liqube 2 years ago 5
i agree completely they added a few great things led backlit buttons better drum pads led rings bigger faders but then screwed with alot of the functionality of it.
sort it out novation stop screwing with a once great formula or keep doing it so i can buy more old gear for cheap :D
peace
brian
sacredgeometry 2 years ago 5
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"The most anticipated product", talk about mishype. The MK2 is a pure cost saving piece of shit. Removing 1 LCD (one of the most expensive parts of the design), thus making the right hand side hard to use.
Then they went and added a crossfader which is useless AND ugly (a DJ will use another controller, not this!).
And then we have the touch sensitive knobs, which is nice but nothing more complicated than electric current measuring resistance, so it wasn't expensive to add.
They saw $.
regularmagnolia 2 years ago 8
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Suprisingly this cost more than "regularmagnolia" is ever worth. The price is not too steep nor too cheap. You should probably find a better job than working at Mcdonalds if you're to complain about prices.
What functionality did they screw with? I only see an LCD removed. The selling point is mainly Automap, not LCD screens. You dont need LCD screens to use this, when you have Automap, touch sensitivity, and everything is on your monitor(s) if anything else.
j03tv 2 years ago
j03tv: 9 WORDS: WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR READING COMPREHENSION? I NEVER said that I couldn't afford one.
I said, and I quote: "Shame that they removed one of the LCD screens, that was a COST CUT too far". Your profile says you're from the U.S. so you should know the meaning of the phrase "a cost cut too far", meaning they sacrificed too much to save some manufacturing money. They've admitted the screen was removed to save $, and pretty much every reviewer agrees that it was a step back.
regularmagnolia 2 years ago 54
And to address your (very) strange second point saying that "this costs more than you will ever be worth", that's a strange thing to say to someone you don't know. I'm actually a millionaire. That was completely uncalled for.
And surprise: I actually have TWO Remote 49 SL's in my studio. One MK1 and one MK2. I love the touch sensitivity of the MK2 model, which is why I got it. However, I, like most people, would have been happy to pay $10 more for a model with 2 LCDs like MK1 had...
regularmagnolia 2 years ago 40
@regularmagnolia Why would a millionaire be fucking around with high street affordable gear like Novation? And why would a millionaire be wasting time squabbling with other dicks on YouTube? Haven't you got money to spend or something more exciting to do?
VYD239 4 months ago
@regularmagnolia
Christ, so he misunderstood you. Just explain the problem - no need for blood on the toilet paper.
viberunner 1 year ago
How many screens do you need? The controller is so intuitive, you can see everything from the GUI and the "cheap" touch sensitivity means whatever row is touched is displayed on the screen, making the second screen redundant really.
mrpeanut25 2 years ago
Are the fades motorized?
viktorsehr 2 years ago
That's the exaact question I was gonna ask. I think if they were, it would be the perfect controller.
Gasolari 2 years ago
they are not
liqube 2 years ago
(1) I have been test driving a Novation SL mk2 25 today at my local Digital Village store for over 3 hours (thanks DV!) with Reaper and Cubase 5. My impressions:
CONS:
- Build quality not great. The black (old) M-Audio Axiom, which I own, is made from better plastics.
- Mod/pitch bend stick feels flimsy and spring makes noises at least on the one I tried.
- 270º knobs too stiff, while the endless rotary pots feel just perfect.
manueldaman 2 years ago
any pros? automap any good?
zodiacie 2 years ago
I think it's a personal preference. Automap does work the way it is supposed to and it make it easy to map controls in Cubase. The only reason why I would buy the Novation SL is because Cubase makes it stupidly hard to map controllers. However other software such as REAPER, Reason, Live and Sonar have pretty good built-in MIDI-learn capabilities which are enough for me. However for a live gig you might benefit from Automap. Personally I found the hardware to be flimsy.
manueldaman 2 years ago
the sl drum pads suck balls.
i hope they fixed them now.
SuperflyFruitcake 2 years ago 3
they are horrible, yeah
liqube 2 years ago
are you sure the drum pads are better ? its not the same thing on sl ?
olirain 2 years ago
can i use this with komplete 5 and kore 2 like the controller of kore? also can i control the intruments and mixer of logic pro 8 ?
studiomike0123 2 years ago
can't wait till they figure out we want 3 vertical knobs for an eq setup to dj with... maybe 2010. Or not. Lame.
sonnybrown 2 years ago
if u dj get another device.
1StOfDecember 2 years ago
Ok .
sonnybrown 2 years ago 3
This looks nice. I think it would compliment Live well. I would need to see how the pads feel though.
hipnova 2 years ago
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hipnova 2 years ago
Looks like shit to me compared to the Teenage Engineering announced OPERATOR - 1 !!!
tamurasse 2 years ago
omg you OPERATOR - 1 is piece of crap
1StOfDecember 2 years ago
What a bunch of crock of shit..this is suppose to be product of 2009 hahahah> you guys are the easte bunnies of hype! You guys are going backward..where is the LCD ? hahaha What a joke!
losangelesstrippers 2 years ago 11
been waiting for these. almost died waiting
theBbOoSSss 2 years ago
Wow, this thing is p0rn ;)
My next must-have in deed!!
hotze303 2 years ago