Georgians never lived in Armenia hence could never build "their "churches there. The church was reconstructed ffrom Armenain Apostolic Orthodox into Chaldenian at Zakaria brothers ruling times coz one of them betrayed our church and became Chaldenian Armenian. The church was uses by Chaldenian Armenians and Greeks, has nothing to do with Georgians.But Georgians steal Armenian churches all over Georgia.
Obviously all Kingdoms on Armenian Highland, including Urartu ( which is Assyrian prononciation of Ararat) were Armenians, just don;t faint out of jealousy lol...and no, there is not Georgian church in Armenia, it is u who Georgianiase our churches, , get ur facts stright...
Oh my god!!!! Why does Armenians think that world belongs to them? Yes that church was Armenian, but NOT whole Georgia!!!!! And Javaketi has never been Armenian!!! Armenians where moved there by Stalin to create "ethnic bomb", ethnic discord!
Don't talk nonsense, nobody claims ur Georgia, Javakhk is historical Armenia, Stalin gave it to Georgia an Karabakh/Artsakh, Nakhichevan, Shaumyan, etc to Azerbaijan...and if u know the church IS Armenian why don't u oppose Georgianisation of it? How can the Go's house be taken from other ppl?
How? How could Javakheti be historical Armenia, when Ivan Paskevich moved Armenians there and no Armenias have been living there before??? And yes Stalin gave many plenty of lands to Turkey and Azerbaijan including Georgian Saingilo to Azerbaijan and part of Ajaria and some other lands to Turkey but Javaketi has always been part of Georgia. Personally I stand against changing or remaking any historical or religious buildings or monuments since I'm archaeologist
@BeautySavesWorld "Urartu??? Has Urartians been Armenian?! That is really childish if you think that Urartians where Armenians cause Hurro-Urartian languages has nothing to do with Indo-European languages and Armenian language is Indo-European and it is not proto-armenian language, besides Javakheti hes never been found any kind of evidence of Cuneiform script such as Uratian."-
"Urartu??? Has Urartians been Armenian?! That is really childish if you think that Urartians where Armenians cause Hurro-Urartian languages has nothing to do with Indo-European languages and Armenian language is Indo-European and it is not proto-armenian language, besides Javakheti hes never been found any kind of evidence of Cuneiform script such as Uratian."-
"Urartu??? Has Urartians been Armenian?! That is really childish if you think that Urartians where Armenians cause Hurro-Urartian languages has nothing to do with Indo-European languages and Armenian language is Indo-European and it is not proto-armenian language, besides Javakheti hes never been found any kind of evidence of Cuneiform script such as Uratian."-
"Noting that the Hurro-Urartian peoples inhabited the Armenian homeland in the second millennium BC, Diakonov identifies in Armenian a Hurro-Urartian substratum of social, cultural, and zoological and biological terms such as ałaxin ('slavegirl') and xnjor ('apple(tree)')"
Jacquetta Hawkes, "The First Great Civilizations," London, 1967
"Yet the Hurrians did not disappear from history. Away to the North in their Armenian homeland, they entrenched themselves and build up the kingdom of Urartu."
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In all ancient maps Javakhk was part of Armenian Kingdaom Urartu/Ararat
Hmm, Turk who has occupied ARMENIAN Anatolia through genocide calls his victims a "terrorist"m typical Turks who is running to help his Georgian brothers lol
this is stupid and ridicioulus, and i think another shit act from saakashvili, i am 100% in that is cant be happen, it must stay how it is an armenian church, i myself are a 100% Georgian Patriot an Nationalist who has something to blaim dont blaim us the people who live here blaim the one who let this happen , you have bad comments about Georgians , come and meet me , we talk
I am Georgian and I agree that this church belongs to Armenia and has to be returned to Armenian Church. On the other hand I request from all shitmouthed armenians to shut their mouths and apologize for insults. Fuck all of your shitmouthed cocksuckers.
Are u stupid or what? Georgians didn;t build any church in Armenia, it is Armenians who lived and built churches in Georgia, wherever Armenians live they build churches, while Georgians are famous for being thieves...
you must make pace. Pray one for ather, love your enemyes. Georgia and Armenia should stop fighting. Pace will come when monofizism will be no more and when the Calcedon synod will be accepted, along with the miracle of saint Euphemya. Jesus is boath human and God, as human has soul and body. If Georgia destroyed some armenian churches, this means that God will punish them. Make love not war ! Love you Armenia, love you Georgia ! Pace orthodox brothers !
@fromgeorgiawithlove WTF. i see you're not informed well enough . WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING THAT BELONGS TO OTHERS, WE JUST WANT ARMENIAN CREATIONS TO REMAIN ARMENIAN. THAT'S ALL
@HaykazBagrat Everywhere are assholes !! and one always dislikes the other ! Don't need to tell me anything I am an asshole myself, sometimes (like this) and... People respect yourselves first as. Each word we say makes us much more asshole ! Thanks for respect of my people I really appreciate that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@margalitsu Armenians dont want to take georgia we are not vandals... each nation has its lands Javaxq in Georgia is Armenian land...Armenians had done for Georigia too much dont forget... we love Georgia... we are brothers... but now you are in wrong way.. you are destroing Armenian churches in Georgia.... such thing suites only turks or azers ... stop it.. stop lieing... cause you are christians!!!
Portraying Georgians with such a bias does nothing to promote reconciliation. Georgians reached out and gave safe harbor to Armenians fleeing the Turks. Who tells the world about the many Georgian churches that are locked and Georgians are barred from entering in Armenia?
Why not do something truly beautiful, BeautySavesWorld, & sow peace instead of slandering your neighbor. Christ is Risen- Let us speak brothers, even unto those who hate us, and forgive all for the sake of the Resurrection.
@frolicus THANKS !!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU ( I thought I had a journey to hell while reading the comments on this post that I found through my Armenian friend's channel) I know about the history of that war and yes we did quite a kind thing and yes Armenians have done kind things as well so should we struggle on youtube - shame on these guys) There's one thing that as if it's nothing stays away (happily) when we argue and it's Russia the country that comes uninvited and betrays when needed
The Armenians have build 350 churches in Romania 34 churches only in the city of former Constantinople now Istanbul do I have to continue tell me on which continent south, central, north America ? USA, west or east Europe? Asia? Australia or middel east ? ... Any Georgina comments dud ?
@HAYASER100 oh yes and you have built more than 500 churches in Georgia, we know that ) in Jerusalem, all Georgian churches are in Armenian-Greek hands now, and the Iberi street just was renamed "Ararat street"
I don't know about Romania or Istanbul, but I guess there are similar stories
Has always been Ararat street, u tried to rename it, never worked out, now u even dare talk abt it, juts like u renamed famous Aramyanc Hospital which he, an Armenian built on his money andworlded there all his life saving ur lives, now u renamed it and threw his memory into obliviasness! Shame on u...
ra tkma unda somxuri eklesiaa.shignit vinc aris namkopi da visac akvs nanaxi ulamazezi ovnatanianis preskebi da visac martla scams gmertis is mixvdeba da gaigebs da ra tkma unda kvelgan itkvis rom es eklesia somxuria.
U r an example how Georgians Georginise our Armenian churches, just like that, without any proof, just adding "i" at the end and blaming Armenians...do u even realise that every nation's churches are unique and easily proved??
But Georgians in their country rename everything done by Armenians, remember Tbilisi hospotal opened by Armenian doctor and called after his name Amiryanc which is now renames and denied??!!
Как известно, в 2006-2008 гг. было предпринято несколько попыток реставрации и грузинизации храма Ошкванк в современной Турции - историческом Тайке (по грузинской версии Тао-Кларджети). Отметим, что кроме Ошкванка это еще и Ишхан.
Now you claim Javakheti is your.. It's funny, what do we have to belive u in word? CAn any single of you show historical evidence , or m,aps not made or writtenn by Armenians indicating Javajkheti ever belonging to you?
Of course NOt, all u know is saying some shit! good job on that, but I think it's Armenia who needs georgia right now, because if we close borders with you, I wonder how would u even live?lol U receive even food through georgia!
@girl4GEO Georgians worse than Turks and Azeris. You SUCK Turkish cock and suck Azeri cock then call yourselves Christians. I'm GLAD Russia fucked you good!!! By the way historically thos lands are Armenian, Iberia originally is bit further north DUMBASS!!!!!
why arn't there georgian churches in yerevan? lets start whit that. and the turks didn't do a good job in 1915 if they started it they shoudl had finishde the whole job.
and if you said cock sucker against that girl i'll shoot you brians out whereever you are.
@sandrowar Cocksucker, cocksucker, cocksucker.......you guessed it COCKSUCKER!!!!! Saakashvili....cock sucker!!!! Stallin....cocksucker!!!! Shevardnadze....you know, I like Shevardnadze. Shevardnadze
is a nice guy!!!! Otherwise COCKSUCKER!!!! Sucking American COCK, sucking Turkish COCK, sucking Azeri COCK!!!! Next you will be sucking on Brazilian, Columbia and Argentinian COCK!!!! You make me laugh...hahahahaha ;)))))
LOL.."georgianizatio" how much Russians payed you armenians to start this bullshit ?LOl
In entire histopry of GEorgia Armenia has never supoported us, even in 1918 when whole Caucaisa was fightitng for independence you were kissing Russians ass, and furthermore attacking Georgia!
Do you really expect you have any rights in georgia?lol How about our churches located in Tao-Klarjeti..
why don't we geortgians live in Armenia and why do u live in georgia if its so bad in here?
tamolb..back stabbing Xuyashvilli Didnt you learn your lesson? You got raped by Russians, for which I am glad. As long as you kiss turks ass you will get fucked left and right, first hill your ass from Russian Dick that went so deep that still hurts. Later prepare and oil it for us. get the fuck out of Armenian lands. You destroy Armenian churches and kiss ass to turks ha? choke on Putin's dick. I bet Saakashvili / Xuyashvili buys lots of vaseline for his ass thanks to Putin.
tamolb ....listen you georgian ass wipe back stabbing bitch. Did you forget how your turk brothers when pulling out of remaiing Armenian lands, told you ( the sluts of turks) that even Lori is georgian go ahead and take it. And dum shit georginas like you actually decided to take Lori, but got your asses kicked and left like a donkey. You saw how we kicked Azeri's ass and you are shiting in your pants, because you know Javakh could be next.
HEllo Everybody!! We Georgians are Tolerant people and that is well-known fact!!! I hate Liers, especially when they use ugly methods for intensifing Ethnic conflicts between peaceful citizens!!!
Tbilisi was the best example for Georgian tolerance, where in XI-XII century were almost 300 mosques, synagogues and places for the ethnic minorities!!
Armenians felt generously in Havlabar till today!! So one should be Evil and ugly spirited to talk the Shit like we've seen in this Video!!! SHAME !!
yeah, yeah, my house in Havlabar is stolen from us by Georgian, if u r so much for peace why do u keep silence, why do u deny instrad of doing smt about it? why do u not join Armenians in Tbilisi to protest?
But who built this churches in Georgia? why Armenian man wood be built church in Georgia? Armenians have you logic? you have not in your country church because you did not build and now you want say that Georgians churches are Armenians which are in Georgia and not Armenia.
Calm down brother! If the person is Blined with envy we can't change him/her!
I can tell People Tens of thousend examples, how Aremenians are trying to falsificate Georgian churches, which has all the sources and evidences that they are GEORGIAN!we all perfectly know, that armenians used the characterizing 'Crosses' for possesion the georgian churches,they just went stilly and put that cross as if it had been there standing for centuries!
there are left RELICS of Georgian architect style!!
If u had proof u would have posted here, but ow Georgians are falsifying Armenian history is here.
Georgians made a deal with Turks and are claiming Armenian churches from occupied Western Armenia ( eastern Turkey now). Turks committed genocide on Armenians, expelled us from our lands but all of a sudden georgians claim our curces there, di our Heros fought for ur churches???!!! Why there was no Georgian there???
and what u people are trying to do in javakh and in abkhazia is very wrong. I have nothing against Armenians but Javakheti was and is Georgian land and stop this stupid argument. My ancestors payed blood to keep that land in our hands and if there was conflict it was because ARMENIANS WERE ASKING TO DECLEAR ARMENIAN AS A SECOND LANGUAGE AND DEMANDING AUTONOMY!!!!!! lol who would not have conflict after that ha? that kind of actions costed us Abkhazia and we will not repeat mistakes twice.......
Javakhq is a historical Armenian land, Armenian Kingdom from ancient time, was given to Gerogia by Georgian Stalin only in 1923 along with other Armenian lands to Azeri Turks, this was his plan to destory Armenia...
losdruid ...are you stupid or what? Did your grandma fart on your face or what u idiot. Javakhk was and is Armenian historical land u fuck face
Fuck georgian xuyashvilis they are 2 face cock suckers and they always back-stabbed Armenia. Never trust these georgian dogs. By the way is your Xoyashvili president's ass hilling from Putin's dick or what? Your time will come dont worry, dont you ever think that you will swallow Javakh that eazy, the only thing you can swallo eazy is my cock.
hey HATER, why don't u ask yourself how UGLY u are???
we backed your nation or every time we were attacked u betraied christian brother and send arabs and turks to us ha?? or u had forgotten how armenian Buties with Bagramian killed hundrids of Georgians!! go kill yourself, feeble-minded brainwashed (Hayer, Xuyer goes with your name more) and leave Javakheti alone!! Read more and stop speaking Shit, there is no need to show up how disgusting hater you are !!
tamolb ....listen u Xuyadze, are u talking out of your ass? Since when is Javakhk georgian ? oh ya when dick head Staling gave it to you, just like the same dick head gave our lands to Azerbaijan.
You backed Armenian every time ??? are you stupid ? you dum shit every time you back stabbed Armenia you 2 face cowered cock suckers. you georgian pigs are discrace to christianity so dont even go there u back stabbing sons of bitches. Remember Artsakh ass hole ..Javakh is next you Xuyadze
hey man this is bullshit who told u this. Lol I live in Tbilisi myself and those Armenian churches are functioning and many Georgian Armenian Gregorians are going in there. And about Tombstones many of those tombs were removed because they are facing destruction u dumbasses, because if they would not do something about it now there would be no tomb very soon. This Norashen Church is Was built by Armenian Diaspora in Georgia very long time ago and it is appriciated, nobody is stealing nothing....
this is all blame on the jews. if you unite then we can have Israel and control the whole world but you won't unite. Georgia, Armenia, Kurds, Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis and the rest of the area in peace. then no nation can ever defeat us.
Ur anti-semitism is astonishing lol, what on earth have Jews to do with the fact that you are destroying our historical heritage, ancient churches, cemetries, etc. in Georgia???
What the fuck...... GIVE GEORGIA PEACE!!! this is soo little country... russians, ossetians, abhazians, AND NOW ARMENIANS!!!! GIVE GEORGIA PEACE PLEASE GOD PLEASE!!!!
The Armenians living in the Javakheti region are harassed and discriminated against, by your military and police force, yes friendship is a two way street, how about your governments attempt to relocate thousands of turks into Armenian populated areas?? Does Turkey have a hand in this.
Any how my purpose is not to argue like children, but to find a way to understand each other before its too late and the turk get his wish.
The Armenians were protecting themselves from Georgian Military threats, just like Gerogians are beginning to threaten and harass Armenians in Javakah.
The turks-meskhetians have no place especially in ancient Armenian lands, these turks forcibly took ancient Armenian & Gerogian lands during the ottoman years and they are not welcome.
It will only lead to more conflict, because of your CIA trained and puppet President.
Get ur facts stright...Armenians born and raised in Abkhazia were defending their homes from Georgian agression, it was exactly Gerogian troops invading the lands they call HOME! Besides, republic of Armenia or Diaspora didn't get involved...and abt "your" lands/churches in Western Armenia, we know how u r trying to appropriate Armenian churches even there!
Haytime4justice, the only one who is discriminated in Javakheti region are Georgians, but they don't complain. It's easy to seat by computer in UK and write bullshit about land you have never been, I bet. The only thing is discriminates people in this Georgian area is the cold weather, so take your complains to mother nature.
Euvisio, if you read my posts you will see that I have been trying to tackle the issues our people are faced with.
I have first cousins that are Gerogians in Yerevan & Tbilisi.
But the key point here is why is the Georgian Church with approval from Georgian authorities trying so hard to destroy the existence of Armenian Churches?
Its almost like the azeri bulldozing our ancient and sacred cemeteries with over 10000 stone crosses dating back 1500 years.
Dear Haytime4justice, somehow I do understand your pain concerning to so "destroying the existence of Armenian Churches". But real picture is that these churches were belonged to Georgian Orthodox Church before; and under period of Russian Tsarizm they were illegally bought or redesigned as Armenian. There are still hundreds of Armenian churches in Georgia but nobody touches them. Only some churches mentioned above getting new and same time old owner.
OK, suppose at "29 Armenian churches functioning in Tbilisi in the beginning of 20th century , now only one is active".
Even that one is not full with perish people and how you going to make others ACTIVE? Have you 29 priests to run "those" churches?? Who will pay their salaries??? Will new priests stay in the churches without flock????
It is the scum Russian orthodox church telling Georgian church to do this. I don't blame them, the Armenians keep spying for the fascist USA and Israel. We need to unite and take over Israel and USA and Russia and control it all.
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the fact is not russia! the problem is Armania they are thisty to blood! and armenian people never can be friend with other nation! for awhile yes they can but after when they are strong they just lie about you and trying to fuck other counrtrys! why the russia attcked the Georgia! becouse of this stinky and ugly armenian!!!!LONG LIFE TO GEORGIA.. GREETINGS FROM TURKEY!!
You are just regular turk. Whole world suffered from your invasions. You have no culture no alfabet no music no art. You will never be civilised country all your history was based to kill nations. You try to get in to Europe but you are not still primitive muslime turks
Khabesh, you sound like a decent chap, but most of the Georgians here seem for whatever reason hate Armenians more than our worst enemies.
I have said it before that I have a lot of Georgian cousins almost al of them from marriages between Armenians & Georgians, I can't say I hate Gerogians, but my God its getting very close.
I treid to speak to Georgians on YT, most of them sent me threatening messages and some were turks pretending to be Georgians. Like the asshole below georgianBBCH
We have differences, yes like differences between maybe family members, I can think of many examples of Georgian injustices, like the Church this post is about.
I agree with you that Russia uses us both as does USA, but why try and blatantly do damage by trying to Georgianise the Armenian Churches, as BeautySavesWorld mentiones above?
These actions display a cold and very calculating policy of Georgian government, it will back fire badly.
The Bagramian battalion's purpose was to protect ethnic Armenians living in the region from threats by the Georgian military, your government is also lying to you about attacks on Armenians living the region. I cannot think of ONE Georgian Church that was attacked or forcibly changed,by Armenians, unlike your turk friends that are recorded on video destroying ancient Armenian cemeteries and Churches, and let me tell you this amongst those cemeteries were hundreds of Georgian graves,
Who is talking about hate? Read your posts carefully :) Georgians love all people including Armenians, in fact my best friend is Armenian. There are some too "nationalistic" people also everywhere, like you for example but it does not changes anything. So, stop this crap!
somebody ban these armenians, from the display of the earth. you people are just same shit outside whatever inside. go to your mommy do something, don't sit here and talk nonsence about Georgia,
Georgians should be thankful to Armenians for providing academics, intellectuals to the cultural mix in Georgia, the reason Georgia is having so much problems is due to its lack of real identity. Mix of various races and religions make Georgia a confederation of tribes.
Georgias lack of real identity makes them react to Armenians and Armenian Churches, even though we should all be able to pray to God in any Church irrespective
As for azeri's and turks, all I can say is that good luck.
armenian community in Georgia can suck my dick and then get the hell out of my country, fucking assholes instead of being thankfull to Georgia you're gossiping shit on us, ungrateful hairy shitbags. Get the fucking hell out of Georgia Armenians go back to your own land.
Armenians have been living for centuries in their lands irrespective, including lands in Georgia, Turkey and Azerbaijan.
Hell even your alphabet was done for you by Armenian. Its you that should be grateful, Armenians gave Georgia the intellectual gene that seems to be sorely missing in Georgians, no wonder you have so much love for your new muslim friends you guys are very much alike with similar mentality.
I think the only one looking stupid here is you, based on your comments that range from absurd to moronic and filthy, I would concur that do not waste anyone's time here. Go home educate yourself and learn how to debate intelligently.
You armenians!!!!you are such a nebbish,such a piteus,such a week people that you use christinty as a deffence factor.Georgia has great ties with Azerbaijan and Turkey it doesnt mean they are muslims..you have bad relationshp with Turkey,Georgia and Azerbaijan ..you are so jelous wth these state,and wanna make georgians enmy against turks..My georgian felows,dont trust those armnian rats,keep peace in region regardles of religion.Rusia and Georgia both Orthdox and we saw what happend a year ago.
Georgia should have thought and planned better before they took on the Russians, your CIA trained president thought NATO along with USA will rush in and help Gerogia. BAD mistake.
You can have and keep your new muslim friends, you deserve each other. Once they use and abuse you dont come back crying back to Russia and your old friends for help
YOU ARE HATCH PATCH MIX OF ARMENIANS AND CAUCASIAN TRIBES WITH SOME Iberian genes left in the mix and that's all Georgia is ..Your Entire south, black sea coast & Kaxeti is basically assimilated Armenians> Don't believe me ? do some research>>. EVEN YOUR alphabet was written by an Armenian monk ... HA HA, DO I NEED TO SAY MORE.?
azerbaijan1000 _____ says god bless my Georgia because in his mind its already " his Georgia" Keep being friends with the Turks and u will end up like the rest of Georgians in Turkey> TURKS will take your country and rename you "Gurgi" ethnic Turks. HA HA. KARMA IS A BITCH YOU BIG TALKING PUSSY CATS. YOU CAN TALK SHIT ABOUT THE ARMENIANS ALL YOU WANT,,, WE FIGHT OUT BATTLES NO MATTER THE ODDS.
As for this video, Mr. BeautySavesWorld, I call such things provocation...Georgia has enough cultural masterpieces, so, trust me, we have much more serious problems than 'Georgianising' your churches..
We know what our problem is and, believe me, we don't need your doctrine...just screw the NATO...we're not gonna enter it without territorial integrity, which we don't have at present....and being friends with Azeries is definitely NOT a problem for us...
secondly, I want u 2 know that I have a deep respect to all Caucasians, including Armenians...we may not love each other, but it should finally dawn on us that the strength of Caucasus is in its unity, so instead of calling one another 'Russia's bitches' or 'US sluts', we should learn standing for each other and once we learn it, believe me, we won't seek allies in Russia or the US..Does anyone agree?
Firstly, let me explain this Georgia-Muslim staff...U think that we're 'weak' anf 'fucking waste of speerm' only because we're on good terms with muslims, right?Do u guys know that during the August war Chechens(who are muslims) helped Georgian troops while they were besieged by Russians?They protected us from Russians, who are ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS,btw
who told you that they like us? there is no place for 'love' in politics...Supporting each other is enough and they DID support us...By the way, if you think that Russians like Armenians, then you need to open your eyes wider 'cause to them we're all 'Caucasian bastards'. and you'd better save your spit for the kind of relationship you have with Russians
the invasion of russia was awesome, i hope it happens again so we can start an invasion from the south, take all their land u fucking waste of sperm georgians,
we have this smart sayin in armenian.
if u sleep with a georgian and a turk, kill the georgian first, which i will do whahhahahaha stupid saakashvilli keep sucking turkish azeri american nato dicks ur time will come too
shalikashvilli is done ,he is completly fucked up,all georgians need some dignity,they need to wake up & see who is good or bad for them,the other thing is you know why he is friend with mongols just to pass the oil from east to west,& get paid in switzerland in his personal personal secret account.
you turn georgian churches to armenian too. i'm talking about churches in javakheti and lori. akhtala,aqori, qoberi, bana are georgian churches! you write armenian words on georgian frescos. this is an armenian propaganda. most armenians are nationalistic, they fight for lost territories (i mean in turkey and azerbaijan) while their territories rot in poorness.
Our problem with microps.You are like the Muslim race ,change your religion as Muslim!You country Georgia is very rich as your brother Mongolian Azeri!
2 million million azeri left the poor azerbaijan for Russia! We work for our country. APOLLO HOY Y SIEMPRE A ARMENIA
Джавахк-Армянам,Квамо-Картли-Азербайджанцам,Аджария-Туркам,ну а Оссетия и Абхазия самоутвердились и Армения должна признать Абхазию и Оссетию!!Срочно!!Раздача грЫзунской земли продолжается!
armenians get out from Georgia. we are different nations different culture and we hate each other. so go and leave us alone ok??. Georgia is not Armenia. armenians leave us alone ok ? forget about us bye bye.
рЕЗО Это отьебанный в жопу Армянскими Штангистами сПортсмен-неудачник который из-за своей ущербности ,чтобы на него кто-то обратил внимание показывает стриптиз у себя на профиле!гРызун-Крысоед с еБалом Дауна!
Синод принял решение ходатайствовать перед президентом Грузии Михаилом Саакашвили о передаче Ахалкалакской и Кумурдойской епархии исторической Ахалкалакской крепости с прилегающей к ней территорией.
The Gerogians have no friends left, they have spat in the face of their Christian and Orthodox friends and now openly kiss turk/azeri ass.
The latest photo of the azeri president hugging the Georgian president is a great example of how a turk will kiss and cuddle you before they rape and murder your family.
Gerogians beware you have been warned, you guys are your own worst enemy.
That was rich, even ur govt has not come up yet with calling Armenian church a Georgian one...lol if it is in Georgia it automatically makes it Georgian? lol Congs to u then, mosques in Georgia probably were built by Georgians for Georgians as well ;-))) make up ur mind then, u want to be Christian or Muslim when it suits u LOL
Thats exactly right, that why the Russians will take whats theirs, the Armenians will take our lands that the Evil Stalin gave to Georgia and the rest you can share with the your beloved Muslim turks.
We are not weak, we are chrisitans .... so you should be. We didn't sell our souls to anyone, not to the US, not to Russia and not to the muslims. We just do respect all religions, what is the best you can do as a smart and christian human. Why are we weak ? The ottomans lost ten times more people, when going to war with georgia and another few millions on their territories, because they had to supply their troops and the normal population died because of hunger
@Data185
Georgians never lived in Armenia hence could never build "their "churches there. The church was reconstructed ffrom Armenain Apostolic Orthodox into Chaldenian at Zakaria brothers ruling times coz one of them betrayed our church and became Chaldenian Armenian. The church was uses by Chaldenian Armenians and Greeks, has nothing to do with Georgians.But Georgians steal Armenian churches all over Georgia.
BeautySavesWorld 2 months ago
@TheKing2033
Obviously all Kingdoms on Armenian Highland, including Urartu ( which is Assyrian prononciation of Ararat) were Armenians, just don;t faint out of jealousy lol...and no, there is not Georgian church in Armenia, it is u who Georgianiase our churches, , get ur facts stright...
BeautySavesWorld 7 months ago
from this comments im losing my respect to georgiens ....
ImPoisonBeCareful 8 months ago
Oh my god!!!! Why does Armenians think that world belongs to them? Yes that church was Armenian, but NOT whole Georgia!!!!! And Javaketi has never been Armenian!!! Armenians where moved there by Stalin to create "ethnic bomb", ethnic discord!
NikaPilot 10 months ago
@NikaPilot
Don't talk nonsense, nobody claims ur Georgia, Javakhk is historical Armenia, Stalin gave it to Georgia an Karabakh/Artsakh, Nakhichevan, Shaumyan, etc to Azerbaijan...and if u know the church IS Armenian why don't u oppose Georgianisation of it? How can the Go's house be taken from other ppl?
BeautySavesWorld 10 months ago
@BeautySavesWorld
How? How could Javakheti be historical Armenia, when Ivan Paskevich moved Armenians there and no Armenias have been living there before??? And yes Stalin gave many plenty of lands to Turkey and Azerbaijan including Georgian Saingilo to Azerbaijan and part of Ajaria and some other lands to Turkey but Javaketi has always been part of Georgia. Personally I stand against changing or remaking any historical or religious buildings or monuments since I'm archaeologist
NikaPilot 10 months ago
@NikaPilot
Javakhk populated by Armenians has always been part of Armenian Highland/Urartu/Armenian Kingdom, stop your childish stories...
BeautySavesWorld 10 months ago
@BeautySavesWorld "Urartu??? Has Urartians been Armenian?! That is really childish if you think that Urartians where Armenians cause Hurro-Urartian languages has nothing to do with Indo-European languages and Armenian language is Indo-European and it is not proto-armenian language, besides Javakheti hes never been found any kind of evidence of Cuneiform script such as Uratian."-
VakhoK 10 months ago
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@BeautySavesWorld
"Urartu??? Has Urartians been Armenian?! That is really childish if you think that Urartians where Armenians cause Hurro-Urartian languages has nothing to do with Indo-European languages and Armenian language is Indo-European and it is not proto-armenian language, besides Javakheti hes never been found any kind of evidence of Cuneiform script such as Uratian."-
VakhoK 10 months ago
"Urartu??? Has Urartians been Armenian?! That is really childish if you think that Urartians where Armenians cause Hurro-Urartian languages has nothing to do with Indo-European languages and Armenian language is Indo-European and it is not proto-armenian language, besides Javakheti hes never been found any kind of evidence of Cuneiform script such as Uratian."-
VakhoK 10 months ago
@VakhoK
Urartu means Ararat/Armenia.
"Noting that the Hurro-Urartian peoples inhabited the Armenian homeland in the second millennium BC, Diakonov identifies in Armenian a Hurro-Urartian substratum of social, cultural, and zoological and biological terms such as ałaxin ('slavegirl') and xnjor ('apple(tree)')"
BeautySavesWorld 10 months ago
@VakhoK
Jacquetta Hawkes, "The First Great Civilizations," London, 1967
"Yet the Hurrians did not disappear from history. Away to the North in their Armenian homeland, they entrenched themselves and build up the kingdom of Urartu."
watch?v=LQi7bF0XPAw
In all ancient maps Javakhk was part of Armenian Kingdaom Urartu/Ararat
BeautySavesWorld 10 months ago
@aram1fedayJAN = aram1terroristPIG
AnadoluHilali 10 months ago
@AnadoluHilali
Hmm, Turk who has occupied ARMENIAN Anatolia through genocide calls his victims a "terrorist"m typical Turks who is running to help his Georgian brothers lol
BeautySavesWorld 10 months ago
@fretfrek thirsty for muslims blood
AnadoluHilali 10 months ago
@Gvsandro
Armenians have no claim on your Meshketia, where do u take it from? As far as I know it used to be your old capital city.
BeautySavesWorld 10 months ago
NOT ONLY CHURCHES ARE VICTIM OF GEORGIANIZATION BUT SCHOOLS (ARMENIAN ENSEIGNEMENT IN JAVAKHK IS BANNISHED) PEOPLE AND HISTORICAL MONUMENTS .
ANYWAY THIS IS A GOOD VIDEO!
aram1fedayJAN 10 months ago
this is stupid and ridicioulus, and i think another shit act from saakashvili, i am 100% in that is cant be happen, it must stay how it is an armenian church, i myself are a 100% Georgian Patriot an Nationalist who has something to blaim dont blaim us the people who live here blaim the one who let this happen , you have bad comments about Georgians , come and meet me , we talk
070dh 1 year ago
I am Georgian and I agree that this church belongs to Armenia and has to be returned to Armenian Church. On the other hand I request from all shitmouthed armenians to shut their mouths and apologize for insults. Fuck all of your shitmouthed cocksuckers.
karakallatore 1 year ago
@karakallatore
U miss the point, it is Georgians who come to this video and insult Armenians and claim the church belongs to Georgians.
Both our nations have our unique churches and none of us needs to take other's church...
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
@karakallatore
Maybe you should give the same advice to Georgians, ans take your own advice.
Firstly you complain about swearing and than you finish your sentence with swearing. That's what most Turks do.
Haytime4justice 1 year ago
@B1a2k3o4
Are u stupid or what? Georgians didn;t build any church in Armenia, it is Armenians who lived and built churches in Georgia, wherever Armenians live they build churches, while Georgians are famous for being thieves...
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
you must make pace. Pray one for ather, love your enemyes. Georgia and Armenia should stop fighting. Pace will come when monofizism will be no more and when the Calcedon synod will be accepted, along with the miracle of saint Euphemya. Jesus is boath human and God, as human has soul and body. If Georgia destroyed some armenian churches, this means that God will punish them. Make love not war ! Love you Armenia, love you Georgia ! Pace orthodox brothers !
TheMistAnchorite 1 year ago
what you whant armenians? you think that everything is armenian in the world? stop this!!! stop!!!
fromgeorgiawithlove 1 year ago
@fromgeorgiawithlove WTF. i see you're not informed well enough . WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING THAT BELONGS TO OTHERS, WE JUST WANT ARMENIAN CREATIONS TO REMAIN ARMENIAN. THAT'S ALL
HaykazBagrat 1 year ago
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babikian1915armen 1 year ago
armenians want to destroy georgia as state and take our land,that will never happen and soon there will be no armenian monkeys in georgia anymore
margalitsu 1 year ago
@margalitsu
Georgians monkeys can't understand that can no longer discriminate Armenians living on the own lands occupied by Georgians!
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
@BeautySavesWorld Hey there's not one land occupied by us be sure! And don't follow each fool's comment ;)
027Karunesh 1 year ago
@margalitsu i respect georgians though sometimes i meet assholes like you bitch
HaykazBagrat 1 year ago
@HaykazBagrat Everywhere are assholes !! and one always dislikes the other ! Don't need to tell me anything I am an asshole myself, sometimes (like this) and... People respect yourselves first as. Each word we say makes us much more asshole ! Thanks for respect of my people I really appreciate that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
027Karunesh 1 year ago
@margalitsu that's too much
027Karunesh 1 year ago
@margalitsu I SEE YOU'RE BRAINFUCKED
HaykazBagrat 1 year ago
@margalitsu Armenians dont want to take georgia we are not vandals... each nation has its lands Javaxq in Georgia is Armenian land...Armenians had done for Georigia too much dont forget... we love Georgia... we are brothers... but now you are in wrong way.. you are destroing Armenian churches in Georgia.... such thing suites only turks or azers ... stop it.. stop lieing... cause you are christians!!!
TheSetera 1 year ago
@G1i1o1r1g1i1k1o1
Georgian monkey, grow up lol
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
a gde eto pesnia, "siaet more v erevane: :D:D
GeoMartial 1 year ago
@gelodi2510
Poshel von, pridurok
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
I would be more concerned about the Mary icon on the high altar. That's whacked!!
Mary is not a god, so: why worship her? Utterly stupid.
Why not have a Russian style icon of Jesus Christ beatified or the Andorian Christ (that can be seen in the Star Trek wiki)?
dakotagerman1 1 year ago
Fuck Georgia, american dogs. I hope Russia will destroy you and left nothing of your nation and culture.
TeramKontru 1 year ago
Portraying Georgians with such a bias does nothing to promote reconciliation. Georgians reached out and gave safe harbor to Armenians fleeing the Turks. Who tells the world about the many Georgian churches that are locked and Georgians are barred from entering in Armenia?
Why not do something truly beautiful, BeautySavesWorld, & sow peace instead of slandering your neighbor. Christ is Risen- Let us speak brothers, even unto those who hate us, and forgive all for the sake of the Resurrection.
frolicus 1 year ago
@frolicus THANKS !!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU ( I thought I had a journey to hell while reading the comments on this post that I found through my Armenian friend's channel) I know about the history of that war and yes we did quite a kind thing and yes Armenians have done kind things as well so should we struggle on youtube - shame on these guys) There's one thing that as if it's nothing stays away (happily) when we argue and it's Russia the country that comes uninvited and betrays when needed
027Karunesh 1 year ago
The Armenians have build 350 churches in Romania 34 churches only in the city of former Constantinople now Istanbul do I have to continue tell me on which continent south, central, north America ? USA, west or east Europe? Asia? Australia or middel east ? ... Any Georgina comments dud ?
HAYASER100 1 year ago
@HAYASER100 oh yes and you have built more than 500 churches in Georgia, we know that ) in Jerusalem, all Georgian churches are in Armenian-Greek hands now, and the Iberi street just was renamed "Ararat street"
I don't know about Romania or Istanbul, but I guess there are similar stories
213HERERRA 1 year ago
@213HERERRA
Everyone knows Ararat area in Israel, so don't talk BS here...
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
@BeautySavesWorld Street of Petre Iberi I said!!! Recently got renamed "Ararat street", I'm not Armenian to bullshit
213HERERRA 1 year ago
@213HERERRA
Has always been Ararat street, u tried to rename it, never worked out, now u even dare talk abt it, juts like u renamed famous Aramyanc Hospital which he, an Armenian built on his money andworlded there all his life saving ur lives, now u renamed it and threw his memory into obliviasness! Shame on u...
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
God Bless Armenia & the people of Armenia. One who talks bad on The Armenians are just below considerd human.
HAYASER100 1 year ago 2
ra tkma unda somxuri eklesiaa.shignit vinc aris namkopi da visac akvs nanaxi ulamazezi ovnatanianis preskebi da visac martla scams gmertis is mixvdeba da gaigebs da ra tkma unda kvelgan itkvis rom es eklesia somxuria.
maikona22 1 year ago
Norasheni is Georgian church.
if you listen to Armenians, they will try to persuade you that Armenians existed even prior the world was created.
And everything on this planet is Armenian:))))
bardaveligio 2 years ago
U r an example how Georgians Georginise our Armenian churches, just like that, without any proof, just adding "i" at the end and blaming Armenians...do u even realise that every nation's churches are unique and easily proved??
But Georgians in their country rename everything done by Armenians, remember Tbilisi hospotal opened by Armenian doctor and called after his name Amiryanc which is now renames and denied??!!
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
@bardaveligio Hey just can you stop talking from your own Informations.
Search it on Wikipedia and you will find that it is Armenian church calls Norashen in Tbilisi.
babikian1915armen 1 year ago
@babikian1915armen Armenians are not even clear orthodox and there are no armenian lands in georgia so get over it !!!!!!!
ninakias 1 year ago
Армянский храм в Турции реставрируют и превращают в грузинский музей
Турция ввиду лучших отношений с Грузией согласна представлять армянские храмы грузинскими.
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
Как известно, в 2006-2008 гг. было предпринято несколько попыток реставрации и грузинизации храма Ошкванк в современной Турции - историческом Тайке (по грузинской версии Тао-Кларджети). Отметим, что кроме Ошкванка это еще и Ишхан.
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
aah so you dont'seap russian so i said that are you gay you talk the whole day about dicks?
sandrowar 2 years ago
and this video is complete idiotism!
Now you claim Javakheti is your.. It's funny, what do we have to belive u in word? CAn any single of you show historical evidence , or m,aps not made or writtenn by Armenians indicating Javajkheti ever belonging to you?
Of course NOt, all u know is saying some shit! good job on that, but I think it's Armenia who needs georgia right now, because if we close borders with you, I wonder how would u even live?lol U receive even food through georgia!
girl4GEO 2 years ago
@girl4GEO
u sound so cheap and stupid....like uneducated 1 year old kid...do u really expect any serious reply??
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
@girl4GEO Georgians worse than Turks and Azeris. You SUCK Turkish cock and suck Azeri cock then call yourselves Christians. I'm GLAD Russia fucked you good!!! By the way historically thos lands are Armenian, Iberia originally is bit further north DUMBASS!!!!!
veeyew 2 years ago
why arn't there georgian churches in yerevan? lets start whit that. and the turks didn't do a good job in 1915 if they started it they shoudl had finishde the whole job.
and if you said cock sucker against that girl i'll shoot you brians out whereever you are.
sandrowar 2 years ago
@sandrowar Cocksucker, cocksucker, cocksucker.......you guessed it COCKSUCKER!!!!! Saakashvili....cock sucker!!!! Stallin....cocksucker!!!! Shevardnadze....you know, I like Shevardnadze. Shevardnadze
is a nice guy!!!! Otherwise COCKSUCKER!!!! Sucking American COCK, sucking Turkish COCK, sucking Azeri COCK!!!! Next you will be sucking on Brazilian, Columbia and Argentinian COCK!!!! You make me laugh...hahahahaha ;)))))
veeyew 2 years ago
wuawheuaewha ti gay blan? vceli dzen na yuii gavarish wuawhah??
sandrowar 2 years ago
bshdhrfnkb dbkbd gay wnhd? kkhdbh kdhbqkwh gavarish jkwqh jodh?? What the FUCK???? Yeh....COCKSUCKER!!!! :0
veeyew 2 years ago
COCKSUCKER!!!!!!! :0
veeyew 2 years ago
because the only indeginious people of Armenia are Armenians unlike the land u live in...
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
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sandrowar 2 years ago
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sandrowar 2 years ago
yes sure every historical evedance they have is a map made in microsoft paint
sandrowar 2 years ago
LOL.."georgianizatio" how much Russians payed you armenians to start this bullshit ?LOl
In entire histopry of GEorgia Armenia has never supoported us, even in 1918 when whole Caucaisa was fightitng for independence you were kissing Russians ass, and furthermore attacking Georgia!
Do you really expect you have any rights in georgia?lol How about our churches located in Tao-Klarjeti..
why don't we geortgians live in Armenia and why do u live in georgia if its so bad in here?
girl4GEO 2 years ago
somxebis jishi movtyan. fuck armenians and
you armenie01 fuck your fuckinng ass
sabba942 2 years ago
ei (KingdomOfGeorgia) pashol ti naxui yob tvayu mat
armenie01 2 years ago
tamolb..back stabbing Xuyashvilli Didnt you learn your lesson? You got raped by Russians, for which I am glad. As long as you kiss turks ass you will get fucked left and right, first hill your ass from Russian Dick that went so deep that still hurts. Later prepare and oil it for us. get the fuck out of Armenian lands. You destroy Armenian churches and kiss ass to turks ha? choke on Putin's dick. I bet Saakashvili / Xuyashvili buys lots of vaseline for his ass thanks to Putin.
polopolak 2 years ago
tamolb ....listen you georgian ass wipe back stabbing bitch. Did you forget how your turk brothers when pulling out of remaiing Armenian lands, told you ( the sluts of turks) that even Lori is georgian go ahead and take it. And dum shit georginas like you actually decided to take Lori, but got your asses kicked and left like a donkey. You saw how we kicked Azeri's ass and you are shiting in your pants, because you know Javakh could be next.
polopolak 2 years ago
Armenians, I am shore that you all are stupid
because you think that Javakheti was Armenia?
I have never listen that silly idea you must reed
history which wrote real historian man and not reed somebody stupid armenians
fucking idea about georgia you all are fucking stupids
sabba942 2 years ago
I would wonder if not georgians, how would armenians live in this world? it is so hard for them..eh.
N789A 2 years ago
What Georgianization are you talking about after Armenianizing all the Georgian churches in northern Georgia, includin 13th century church Hujabi.
KingdomOfGeorgia 2 years ago
HEllo Everybody!! We Georgians are Tolerant people and that is well-known fact!!! I hate Liers, especially when they use ugly methods for intensifing Ethnic conflicts between peaceful citizens!!!
Tbilisi was the best example for Georgian tolerance, where in XI-XII century were almost 300 mosques, synagogues and places for the ethnic minorities!!
Armenians felt generously in Havlabar till today!! So one should be Evil and ugly spirited to talk the Shit like we've seen in this Video!!! SHAME !!
tamolb 2 years ago 2
yeah, yeah, my house in Havlabar is stolen from us by Georgian, if u r so much for peace why do u keep silence, why do u deny instrad of doing smt about it? why do u not join Armenians in Tbilisi to protest?
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
fuck off armenian dick javakheti is georgia !!
giooorgi 2 years ago
@giooorgi
If ur Stalin gave u our Javakhk it soent ;make it urs, and expelling us from javakhk will not help u either...
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
But who built this churches in Georgia? why Armenian man wood be built church in Georgia? Armenians have you logic? you have not in your country church because you did not build and now you want say that Georgians churches are Armenians which are in Georgia and not Armenia.
sabba942 2 years ago
What drugs are u on? Armenians build their churches anywhere in the world, just like Georgian church was found in Cyprus...are u 10? lol
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
somxebs dzalian bevri eklesia qondat sakartveloshi, gansakutrebit tbilisshi.
tsetsoni 2 years ago
raxamc shen ityvi shenc somexi iknebi da magitom ybedob amdens thqveni ujisho jishi movtyan rac qarthuli eklesiebi aris mesxethshi thqven somxebma erthi qva daagdeth somxuri asothi da daicyeth imis mtkiceba thithqos es eklesia da teritoria somxuriao geyoth amdeni bogma da shuri qarthvelebis mimarth thqve gamyidvelebo. imas ratom ar ambobth 1918-1919 clebshi rom thavs dagvesxith da thbilisis agebac rom moindometh, mara samagiero shetevac rom ver moigerieth da inglisis madloblebi iyavith
kobacho1 2 years ago 2
chem komentarze tu dawere amdeni, tyuilad garjilxar!
tsetsoni 2 years ago
rom somxethi saqarthvelos avtonomia ar gaxda
kobacho1 2 years ago 2
Calm down brother! If the person is Blined with envy we can't change him/her!
I can tell People Tens of thousend examples, how Aremenians are trying to falsificate Georgian churches, which has all the sources and evidences that they are GEORGIAN!we all perfectly know, that armenians used the characterizing 'Crosses' for possesion the georgian churches,they just went stilly and put that cross as if it had been there standing for centuries!
there are left RELICS of Georgian architect style!!
tamolb 2 years ago
If u had proof u would have posted here, but ow Georgians are falsifying Armenian history is here.
Georgians made a deal with Turks and are claiming Armenian churches from occupied Western Armenia ( eastern Turkey now). Turks committed genocide on Armenians, expelled us from our lands but all of a sudden georgians claim our curces there, di our Heros fought for ur churches???!!! Why there was no Georgian there???
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
and what u people are trying to do in javakh and in abkhazia is very wrong. I have nothing against Armenians but Javakheti was and is Georgian land and stop this stupid argument. My ancestors payed blood to keep that land in our hands and if there was conflict it was because ARMENIANS WERE ASKING TO DECLEAR ARMENIAN AS A SECOND LANGUAGE AND DEMANDING AUTONOMY!!!!!! lol who would not have conflict after that ha? that kind of actions costed us Abkhazia and we will not repeat mistakes twice.......
losdruid 2 years ago
Javakhq is a historical Armenian land, Armenian Kingdom from ancient time, was given to Gerogia by Georgian Stalin only in 1923 along with other Armenian lands to Azeri Turks, this was his plan to destory Armenia...
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
losdruid ...are you stupid or what? Did your grandma fart on your face or what u idiot. Javakhk was and is Armenian historical land u fuck face
Fuck georgian xuyashvilis they are 2 face cock suckers and they always back-stabbed Armenia. Never trust these georgian dogs. By the way is your Xoyashvili president's ass hilling from Putin's dick or what? Your time will come dont worry, dont you ever think that you will swallow Javakh that eazy, the only thing you can swallo eazy is my cock.
polopolak 2 years ago
hey HATER, why don't u ask yourself how UGLY u are???
we backed your nation or every time we were attacked u betraied christian brother and send arabs and turks to us ha?? or u had forgotten how armenian Buties with Bagramian killed hundrids of Georgians!! go kill yourself, feeble-minded brainwashed (Hayer, Xuyer goes with your name more) and leave Javakheti alone!! Read more and stop speaking Shit, there is no need to show up how disgusting hater you are !!
tamolb 2 years ago
@tamolb
Abxazian Armenians defended their homes from khGeorgian ocupiers who attacked Abkhazia...
And javakh will reunite with Armenia one day just like Artsakh...
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
@BeautySavesWorld abkhazia is not armenian land, so shut up bitch
shanitkd 1 year ago
@shanitkd
Are u drunk? Noone claimed such a stupud thing, Abkhazia is Abkhazia!
BeautySavesWorld 1 year ago
@shanitkd hahhahh sed this bullshit hhhhaahh abhazia is georgia a long time and nobyde can change it !!!!!!!!
ninakias 1 year ago
tamolb ....listen u Xuyadze, are u talking out of your ass? Since when is Javakhk georgian ? oh ya when dick head Staling gave it to you, just like the same dick head gave our lands to Azerbaijan.
You backed Armenian every time ??? are you stupid ? you dum shit every time you back stabbed Armenia you 2 face cowered cock suckers. you georgian pigs are discrace to christianity so dont even go there u back stabbing sons of bitches. Remember Artsakh ass hole ..Javakh is next you Xuyadze
polopolak 2 years ago
hey man this is bullshit who told u this. Lol I live in Tbilisi myself and those Armenian churches are functioning and many Georgian Armenian Gregorians are going in there. And about Tombstones many of those tombs were removed because they are facing destruction u dumbasses, because if they would not do something about it now there would be no tomb very soon. This Norashen Church is Was built by Armenian Diaspora in Georgia very long time ago and it is appriciated, nobody is stealing nothing....
losdruid 2 years ago
Just two days ago another Armenian church was almost demolished in Tiflis..;-(((
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
this is all blame on the jews. if you unite then we can have Israel and control the whole world but you won't unite. Georgia, Armenia, Kurds, Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis and the rest of the area in peace. then no nation can ever defeat us.
candygir7 2 years ago
Ur anti-semitism is astonishing lol, what on earth have Jews to do with the fact that you are destroying our historical heritage, ancient churches, cemetries, etc. in Georgia???
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
What the fuck...... GIVE GEORGIA PEACE!!! this is soo little country... russians, ossetians, abhazians, AND NOW ARMENIANS!!!! GIVE GEORGIA PEACE PLEASE GOD PLEASE!!!!
BigBuddha3 2 years ago
Khabesh
The Armenians living in the Javakheti region are harassed and discriminated against, by your military and police force, yes friendship is a two way street, how about your governments attempt to relocate thousands of turks into Armenian populated areas?? Does Turkey have a hand in this.
Any how my purpose is not to argue like children, but to find a way to understand each other before its too late and the turk get his wish.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
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khabesh 2 years ago 3
The Armenians were protecting themselves from Georgian Military threats, just like Gerogians are beginning to threaten and harass Armenians in Javakah.
The turks-meskhetians have no place especially in ancient Armenian lands, these turks forcibly took ancient Armenian & Gerogian lands during the ottoman years and they are not welcome.
It will only lead to more conflict, because of your CIA trained and puppet President.
No hard feelings. Enjoyed the discussions
best wishes
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
khabesh,
Get ur facts stright...Armenians born and raised in Abkhazia were defending their homes from Georgian agression, it was exactly Gerogian troops invading the lands they call HOME! Besides, republic of Armenia or Diaspora didn't get involved...and abt "your" lands/churches in Western Armenia, we know how u r trying to appropriate Armenian churches even there!
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
Haytime4justice, the only one who is discriminated in Javakheti region are Georgians, but they don't complain. It's easy to seat by computer in UK and write bullshit about land you have never been, I bet. The only thing is discriminates people in this Georgian area is the cold weather, so take your complains to mother nature.
Euvisio 2 years ago
Euvisio, if you read my posts you will see that I have been trying to tackle the issues our people are faced with.
I have first cousins that are Gerogians in Yerevan & Tbilisi.
But the key point here is why is the Georgian Church with approval from Georgian authorities trying so hard to destroy the existence of Armenian Churches?
Its almost like the azeri bulldozing our ancient and sacred cemeteries with over 10000 stone crosses dating back 1500 years.
Please answer the relevant question.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
Dear Haytime4justice, somehow I do understand your pain concerning to so "destroying the existence of Armenian Churches". But real picture is that these churches were belonged to Georgian Orthodox Church before; and under period of Russian Tsarizm they were illegally bought or redesigned as Armenian. There are still hundreds of Armenian churches in Georgia but nobody touches them. Only some churches mentioned above getting new and same time old owner.
Euvisio 2 years ago
I have had these discussions before, claims , cross claims, irrespective of who is right these Churches are Armenian now, and should be respected.
BTW some of these Churches are ancient Armenian Chuches dating back centuries.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago 2
OK, suppose at "29 Armenian churches functioning in Tbilisi in the beginning of 20th century , now only one is active".
Even that one is not full with perish people and how you going to make others ACTIVE? Have you 29 priests to run "those" churches?? Who will pay their salaries??? Will new priests stay in the churches without flock????
Euvisio 2 years ago
We are talking about a constant and state supported efforts to convert Armenian Churches and to destroy evidence of their existance.
At least have the decency to admit the mistakes of your authorities.
Just like your President, they miscalculated and thought that the Armenians would simply walk away.
A simple apology would have gone a long way towards healing our wounds, and yes it does go both ways.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago 2
It is the scum Russian orthodox church telling Georgian church to do this. I don't blame them, the Armenians keep spying for the fascist USA and Israel. We need to unite and take over Israel and USA and Russia and control it all.
candygir7 2 years ago
On waht cheap pills are u, girl? ;-)))
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
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the fact is not russia! the problem is Armania they are thisty to blood! and armenian people never can be friend with other nation! for awhile yes they can but after when they are strong they just lie about you and trying to fuck other counrtrys! why the russia attcked the Georgia! becouse of this stinky and ugly armenian!!!!LONG LIFE TO GEORGIA.. GREETINGS FROM TURKEY!!
callmethebeast01 2 years ago
You are just regular turk. Whole world suffered from your invasions. You have no culture no alfabet no music no art. You will never be civilised country all your history was based to kill nations. You try to get in to Europe but you are not still primitive muslime turks
Good luck towards civilisation
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khabesh 2 years ago
Khabesh, you sound like a decent chap, but most of the Georgians here seem for whatever reason hate Armenians more than our worst enemies.
I have said it before that I have a lot of Georgian cousins almost al of them from marriages between Armenians & Georgians, I can't say I hate Gerogians, but my God its getting very close.
I treid to speak to Georgians on YT, most of them sent me threatening messages and some were turks pretending to be Georgians. Like the asshole below georgianBBCH
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
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khabesh 2 years ago
khabesh
What can u say abt Georgianisation of this church and also about trying to Georgianise Armenian curches in Western Armenia (current Turkey)?
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
We have differences, yes like differences between maybe family members, I can think of many examples of Georgian injustices, like the Church this post is about.
I agree with you that Russia uses us both as does USA, but why try and blatantly do damage by trying to Georgianise the Armenian Churches, as BeautySavesWorld mentiones above?
These actions display a cold and very calculating policy of Georgian government, it will back fire badly.
BTW the turks are using you guys beware.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
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khabesh 2 years ago
The Bagramian battalion's purpose was to protect ethnic Armenians living in the region from threats by the Georgian military, your government is also lying to you about attacks on Armenians living the region. I cannot think of ONE Georgian Church that was attacked or forcibly changed,by Armenians, unlike your turk friends that are recorded on video destroying ancient Armenian cemeteries and Churches, and let me tell you this amongst those cemeteries were hundreds of Georgian graves,
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
Who is talking about hate? Read your posts carefully :) Georgians love all people including Armenians, in fact my best friend is Armenian. There are some too "nationalistic" people also everywhere, like you for example but it does not changes anything. So, stop this crap!
Euvisio 2 years ago
u will not allow Georgians to convert the Armenian church into Georgian?
who will ask u. assholes
Nickbreaker1 2 years ago
aaha
georgianBBCH 2 years ago
somebody ban these armenians, from the display of the earth. you people are just same shit outside whatever inside. go to your mommy do something, don't sit here and talk nonsence about Georgia,
georgianBBCH 2 years ago
Georgians should be thankful to Armenians for providing academics, intellectuals to the cultural mix in Georgia, the reason Georgia is having so much problems is due to its lack of real identity. Mix of various races and religions make Georgia a confederation of tribes.
Georgias lack of real identity makes them react to Armenians and Armenian Churches, even though we should all be able to pray to God in any Church irrespective
As for azeri's and turks, all I can say is that good luck.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
armenian community in Georgia can suck my dick and then get the hell out of my country, fucking assholes instead of being thankfull to Georgia you're gossiping shit on us, ungrateful hairy shitbags. Get the fucking hell out of Georgia Armenians go back to your own land.
georgianBBCH 2 years ago
Can you for once make a point without insulting?
Armenians have been living for centuries in their lands irrespective, including lands in Georgia, Turkey and Azerbaijan.
Hell even your alphabet was done for you by Armenian. Its you that should be grateful, Armenians gave Georgia the intellectual gene that seems to be sorely missing in Georgians, no wonder you have so much love for your new muslim friends you guys are very much alike with similar mentality.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
i'm not gonna pretend to be a freak and reply to your stupidity, so please move streight to communism
georgianBBCH 2 years ago
I think the only one looking stupid here is you, based on your comments that range from absurd to moronic and filthy, I would concur that do not waste anyone's time here. Go home educate yourself and learn how to debate intelligently.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago 2
You armenians!!!!you are such a nebbish,such a piteus,such a week people that you use christinty as a deffence factor.Georgia has great ties with Azerbaijan and Turkey it doesnt mean they are muslims..you have bad relationshp with Turkey,Georgia and Azerbaijan ..you are so jelous wth these state,and wanna make georgians enmy against turks..My georgian felows,dont trust those armnian rats,keep peace in region regardles of religion.Rusia and Georgia both Orthdox and we saw what happend a year ago.
ecostar2005 2 years ago
Instead of talking rubbish why don't u talk abt the topic of the video??
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
Georgia should have thought and planned better before they took on the Russians, your CIA trained president thought NATO along with USA will rush in and help Gerogia. BAD mistake.
You can have and keep your new muslim friends, you deserve each other. Once they use and abuse you dont come back crying back to Russia and your old friends for help
Haytime4justice 2 years ago 2
YOU ARE HATCH PATCH MIX OF ARMENIANS AND CAUCASIAN TRIBES WITH SOME Iberian genes left in the mix and that's all Georgia is ..Your Entire south, black sea coast & Kaxeti is basically assimilated Armenians> Don't believe me ? do some research>>. EVEN YOUR alphabet was written by an Armenian monk ... HA HA, DO I NEED TO SAY MORE.?
ararat123457 2 years ago
azerbaijan1000 _____ says god bless my Georgia because in his mind its already " his Georgia" Keep being friends with the Turks and u will end up like the rest of Georgians in Turkey> TURKS will take your country and rename you "Gurgi" ethnic Turks. HA HA. KARMA IS A BITCH YOU BIG TALKING PUSSY CATS. YOU CAN TALK SHIT ABOUT THE ARMENIANS ALL YOU WANT,,, WE FIGHT OUT BATTLES NO MATTER THE ODDS.
ararat123457 2 years ago 2
God Bless MY IRAN.
APOLLO HOY Y SIEMPRE A ARMENIA!
ArmandoArmeni 2 years ago
Of course you have no problems being in bed with Azeries. In fact, you never had a problem of being a whore when it suites you.
hetanos 2 years ago
the u.s. and russia have divided the caucusus just like how the british divided south asia
swejudnih 2 years ago
doing this to their fellow christians.
albertaforalbertans 2 years ago
No georgians arent our fellows, they are treachy dirty rats, who are your friend then in next moment they backstab you. They are worse then turks.
xTheWarlordx 2 years ago 2
As for this video, Mr. BeautySavesWorld, I call such things provocation...Georgia has enough cultural masterpieces, so, trust me, we have much more serious problems than 'Georgianising' your churches..
nachkeba 2 years ago
the problem georgians have is their president mr shalikashvilli,& his policies.
.............being friends with turks & azeries,
never helps,cant trust mongols, becoming member of nato wont help either,it is nothing but problems for georgians.
jake5525 2 years ago
We know what our problem is and, believe me, we don't need your doctrine...just screw the NATO...we're not gonna enter it without territorial integrity, which we don't have at present....and being friends with Azeries is definitely NOT a problem for us...
PS.our president's surname is Saakashvili
nachkeba 2 years ago
the way its going with you guys ,specially the relation with azeries your guys will not have integrity at all
jake5525 2 years ago
Why did you butt in Azeries? they have nothing to do with Abkhazia and S.O
nachkeba 2 years ago
secondly, I want u 2 know that I have a deep respect to all Caucasians, including Armenians...we may not love each other, but it should finally dawn on us that the strength of Caucasus is in its unity, so instead of calling one another 'Russia's bitches' or 'US sluts', we should learn standing for each other and once we learn it, believe me, we won't seek allies in Russia or the US..Does anyone agree?
nachkeba 2 years ago
So why shouldn't we respect them?!And what did you, Armenians, do to deserve our respect?NOTHING
nachkeba 2 years ago
Firstly, let me explain this Georgia-Muslim staff...U think that we're 'weak' anf 'fucking waste of speerm' only because we're on good terms with muslims, right?Do u guys know that during the August war Chechens(who are muslims) helped Georgian troops while they were besieged by Russians?They protected us from Russians, who are ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS,btw
nachkeba 2 years ago
cheechen were friends with u against russians only,not because they like you.
jake5525 2 years ago
who told you that they like us? there is no place for 'love' in politics...Supporting each other is enough and they DID support us...By the way, if you think that Russians like Armenians, then you need to open your eyes wider 'cause to them we're all 'Caucasian bastards'. and you'd better save your spit for the kind of relationship you have with Russians
nachkeba 2 years ago
spit on a relation like this.
jake5525 2 years ago
Well, I read some comments written here and although it may sound naive, I have to admit I didn't expect so much hatred from Armenians...
nachkeba 2 years ago
the invasion of russia was awesome, i hope it happens again so we can start an invasion from the south, take all their land u fucking waste of sperm georgians,
we have this smart sayin in armenian.
if u sleep with a georgian and a turk, kill the georgian first, which i will do whahhahahaha stupid saakashvilli keep sucking turkish azeri american nato dicks ur time will come too
PureBloodArmenian 2 years ago
Gosh, you're such a jackass...just piss off and get a life...
nachkeba 2 years ago
shalikashvilli is done ,he is completly fucked up,all georgians need some dignity,they need to wake up & see who is good or bad for them,the other thing is you know why he is friend with mongols just to pass the oil from east to west,& get paid in switzerland in his personal personal secret account.
jake5525 2 years ago
you turn georgian churches to armenian too. i'm talking about churches in javakheti and lori. akhtala,aqori, qoberi, bana are georgian churches! you write armenian words on georgian frescos. this is an armenian propaganda. most armenians are nationalistic, they fight for lost territories (i mean in turkey and azerbaijan) while their territories rot in poorness.
saqartvelo101 2 years ago
Our problem with microps.You are like the Muslim race ,change your religion as Muslim!You country Georgia is very rich as your brother Mongolian Azeri!
2 million million azeri left the poor azerbaijan for Russia! We work for our country. APOLLO HOY Y SIEMPRE A ARMENIA
ArmandoArmeni 2 years ago
Джавахк-Армянам,Квамо-Картли-Азербайджанцам,Аджария-Туркам,ну а Оссетия и Абхазия самоутвердились и Армения должна признать Абхазию и Оссетию!!Срочно!!Раздача грЫзунской земли продолжается!
greshnosmeyutsynadbo 2 years ago
armenians get out from Georgia. we are different nations different culture and we hate each other. so go and leave us alone ok??. Georgia is not Armenia. armenians leave us alone ok ? forget about us bye bye.
with hate from Georgia.
RezoChigogidze 2 years ago
Another ultra nationalist lol...Armenia is not in Georgia to get out lol and hatred is self destroying ;-)
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
rezo-serafil', -tagvi, sheni xasyati shen moklavs! ;-)))))
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
рЕЗО Это отьебанный в жопу Армянскими Штангистами сПортсмен-неудачник который из-за своей ущербности ,чтобы на него кто-то обратил внимание показывает стриптиз у себя на профиле!гРызун-Крысоед с еБалом Дауна!
greshnosmeyutsynadbo 2 years ago
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RezoChigogidze 2 years ago
Синод принял решение ходатайствовать перед президентом Грузии Михаилом Саакашвили о передаче Ахалкалакской и Кумурдойской епархии исторической Ахалкалакской крепости с прилегающей к ней территорией.
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
The Gerogians have no friends left, they have spat in the face of their Christian and Orthodox friends and now openly kiss turk/azeri ass.
The latest photo of the azeri president hugging the Georgian president is a great example of how a turk will kiss and cuddle you before they rape and murder your family.
Gerogians beware you have been warned, you guys are your own worst enemy.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
this is Georgian church. do not spread fucking false information. Georgia is for Georgians. not for Armenians, Russians or Turks.
kokokocheb1 2 years ago
That was rich, even ur govt has not come up yet with calling Armenian church a Georgian one...lol if it is in Georgia it automatically makes it Georgian? lol Congs to u then, mosques in Georgia probably were built by Georgians for Georgians as well ;-))) make up ur mind then, u want to be Christian or Muslim when it suits u LOL
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
Thats exactly right, that why the Russians will take whats theirs, the Armenians will take our lands that the Evil Stalin gave to Georgia and the rest you can share with the your beloved Muslim turks.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
I will not betray he memory of 1.5M Armenians and another 2 million Christian miniorities killed by the turks to gain monetaryt advantage.
If the Georgians want to sell their soul to the muslims and forgive everything they have done to them than just shows just how weak the Georgians are.
Haytime4justice 2 years ago
We are not weak, we are chrisitans .... so you should be. We didn't sell our souls to anyone, not to the US, not to Russia and not to the muslims. We just do respect all religions, what is the best you can do as a smart and christian human. Why are we weak ? The ottomans lost ten times more people, when going to war with georgia and another few millions on their territories, because they had to supply their troops and the normal population died because of hunger
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
This is ur comment on Azeri video:
EmperorofTerra (2 days ago)
Who or What is Armenia !?
BeautySavesWorld 2 years ago
and ? If you do not know on what topic it is written, you should ot post it
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago