He brought this on himself. He had the sin of pride that allowed him to justify the sin of adultery. He probably told that girl a lot of lies, claiming he did love her and he'll leave his wife for her, but when he got tired of her and she got in trouble he SHOWED her how he really felt about her (ass on the side). I don't belive for a secound he was a true Catholic, no matter how much he gave to charities. he was a great football player but in the same sense, strippers are great dancers.
When heard this case, felt bad for BOTH victims. when I heard how young the female was, I was INCENSED at McNair! Bad enuf he's cheating on wife/kids, but with ANOTHER KID?? This makes Mc Nair a molester AND adulterer.
Years ago, a married woman (same age as my mother) decided to have an affair with a teenage boy. Guess what happened?? She was shot dead on the front steps of her home by teenage lover!! Why? He simply wanted a dramatic end to their relationship.
@fenderbass HAHAHAHAH funniest comment ive heard in a while. Michael Jackson was just a musician. A retired one at that. It's not like he was some political leader out to get those "zionist devils"
What a screwed ass women. if you can't take being dumped you either need serious help or can just die...and mcnair should've known better than to go out with that scary vermin. i mean she looks like a creep right off the bat. hope the devil torchers her
@XxSteelersrsickxX don't get me wrong i'm not defending what the psycho did, but if mcnair had any f***ing morals, none of that would have ever happened. only worthless pieces of sh** cheat on their significant other
im a colts and a giants fan, and i absolutely despise the titans, but i did like mcnair.... crazy psyco girl shoulda jus killed herself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know you woulod think, if he was gonna cheat, you would think she would be hotter than her. She looks like a stork. Well, I guess it dosn't matter, they are both dead now. What a shame..
first of all, LBJIM, look ar ur comment k? seriously just think about what you just said... what does hottness have to do with anything???? and 2nd of all, wut ur saying, its ok if he cheated with someone if they were super hot? >..... 3rd of all...... That girl is prettty hot, just because u white people don't think middle eastern girls are hot, doesnt mean its true.... ovbiosuly he wanted her at one point so that means she had a total package,,,, besides the guys an idiot !!! wrong girl man!
Hey, All I can say is that the bother loved psychos and he payed the price. Another typical player that can't keep his dick in his pants, like I said the chick is a dog, but then again so was Steve McNair..AIR MCNAIR IS NOW DEAD MCNAIR!!...very sad anyway you look at it..A tragedy
what are you 15 year old? warren moon was released from the team, this was WAY before the Oilers moved to Nashville, he did a stint with the Vikings before he left the NFL
I'm 15? No. Also Warren Moon was Traded, and what happened 2 years after? Oh yeah McNair Came into the NFL, and he played for the Oilers. Have you ever looked at the Hall of Fame, Oilers players are considered Titans. So what if he Warren was traded, what happened to McNair, oh yeah 2 years at the Ravens, so is he not considered a Titans QB? McNair was 27,141 yards 156 TD-103Int as a Titan. Warren was 33685 yards 196TD-166int as a Oiler (Titan). Warren also played for the Seahawks, and Chiefs..
Also, I typed Oilers/Titans on the other post, because that's what he is, to say that he isn't a Titan, because he didn't transfer cities with the team doesn't mean shit. He played for the Franchise so it doesn't matter, and 5 years isn't a "WAY" long time from when they moved to Tennessee, and do you know what they were called? Tennessee Oilers in 97', then changed the name to Titans. So McNair, was an Oiler for 4 years, so should we erase those from titan stats then? I'm a Titan,Cowboys fan.
Cenk you have horrible taste in girls. You say the ugliest people are hot but when you have a really cute girl you say she's ugly!?!?!? This girl was beautiful dude!!!
Wow...these two guys are fuckin idiots!!!! He completely tarnished everything he works for in his whole life.....why lead on a 20 year old, promise her this and that, that u are leaving your wife...this dude, put this pussy before his CHILDREN and wife...and to top it off, besides playin her he was seeing multiple other women...I would respect Steve much much more if he told her straight up, it just sex, nothing more...but Steve completely led this girl on and broke her heart!
Bad father and bad husband says a lot about this person. His legacy is no more. Everything good he did in the past such as his philanthropic work is down the tubes. So men watch yourselves before you cheat on your wives. Fatal attraction kills!
So... Steve McNair shouldn't take responsibility? He was living a risking lifestyle. He is no better than the crazy girl that did the shooting. It's too bad he chose to throw away his legacy and his family to go "gangsta."
His mom was quoted as saying " The way I see it this was not God's work (meaning God calling Steve home) -- this was the devil's work." Even his mom acknowledged he had sold his soul to the devil.
I agree with the Turkish announcer, she is not all that. She is delusional, not a good person. Sounds like that black guy on this show is taking up for the mistress saying maybe she was a good person and the women who marry athletes should expect to be cheated on. That says a lot more about his character than it does about the pro athletes. This mistress knew that he was married when she met him and we all know how that story ends and it's usually with the mistress being left high and dry..
John Lennon wasn't killed by a fan you DOPE! He was killed my a mind-controlled assassin (no im not making that up) who's controller was the same controller as john hinckley jr.'s controller, HIS FATHER!!!
Obama is president asshole. Behave yourself. You are making your race look real bad. If you're joking it ain't funny. Finally a great black man gets elected and people like you can't straighten themselves out.
She is in hell for sure, but McNair.....??? Don't know about that, after all he was an extremely charitable person, he did good for many other souls in this world with his charitable foundation. Touched many lives, more than most cheap, mean, vicious uncharitable people in this world. That does work in his favor..... ......who knows?? As i have been taught, god is forgiving.
its funny that men think him cheating on his wife is no big deal...smdh...the point is if he would have kept his dick in his wife...HE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE!!!!!!
what 'family values" do we have when we "celebrate' Drug addicted homosexual child molesters like Michael Jackson and Cheating,lying idiots like Mcnair who killed this poor girl!
Lets assume a Democrat had an affair and not Sanford, youre telling me its ok because the Democrats aren't preaching about family values? Are you kidding me? What kind of double standard fucked up logic is that? Lets hold all Democrats to a lower light than the Republicans simply because if theyre not preaching about family values its ok to cheat on your wife. Hell, its more than ok, its expected. Seriously, just agree that cheating on your wife makes you a bad guy.
Looks more like HE killed her,then offed himself.He probably got her pregnant and didnt want to pay for the big time child support she was gonna take him for.Remember that other colored football guy that killed his pregnant girlfriend about 10 years ago?His name way Ray Carruth.This "Pimp Daddy" or whatever you colored guys like to think about yourselves obviouslly killed her then offed himself when he couldnt figure out a way to get away with it because he was too damned dumb.
This clown was probably cheating her,beating her,and gave a sexually transmitted disease to her,when she found out she was pregnant by him,she lost control.Its a shame that the MTV era that we live in now encourages women to be with 'Gangsta" idiots because its politically correct.Remember OJ,the other moron we called a "Hero"?
This poor confused young woman is just another victim of the current fad making it fashionable to go after gangsta badboy types,she probably felt ashamed and humiliated by this ape who very likely could throw some footballs and run real fast but couldnt even spell his own name.Hopefully women learn from this
What have this woman's looks got to do with anything? Steve McNair shouldn't have been having an affair with her in the first place, irrespective of how she looks. If you cannot commit to a marriage, do NOT get married; it's that simple. Cenk SHOULD be talking about the fact the man has compromised his family and not talking about how attractive the woman, which shows me how shallow HE is. Fucking idiot.
No kidding... one of the reasons she shot him was cuz she thought he was having a second affair. His wife wasn't enough, and a woman on the side wasn't enough. He didn't deserve to die, but it all could have been avoided if he just kept it in his pants and didn't stray from his wife and kids.
These athletes have rotations that go 6 women deep. Now, he'll be 6 (feet) deep. She was pissed b/c she wasn't a starter...she's obviously a bench player & in no way starter material on Team McNair. Pros don't have these little satellite condominiums set up for no reason. Those are for away games.
why do people assume this was his first or only extra marital fling ,she was not the first ,these things are a pattern.Regardless he made a bad decision with her that's obvious.He was a good person but wow what his poor kids gotta live with forever.
How is Steve McNair such a great guy when he has an affair on his wife who he has four kids with? Normally I agree with your points, but that is just plain stupid. Completely exonerating McNair is simply wrong. He started stickin' it where he shouldn't have. Anybody should no that is a stupid idea.
Why do these guys get married in the first place? Love? Yeah, he showed his wife how much he loved her alright. Nothing here but a trajedy. Lesson learned, I guess.
whatever any female says about how bad cheating is...it is never okay to kill someone over it...stupid ass iranian! why'd she have to take steve with her? selfish bitch
She's an idiot and a nut! SHE IS the other woman!!!! And she's upset he's seeing someone else? She was living in a fantasy world of he's gonna marry me etc etc. He was screwing you dear, nothing more. Now, you're a double murderer.
the lessons we should all take from this tragedy is that one should be very careful in choosing and handling a mistress. in other words, keep the freaks you pick up at a certain distance. Also, is youtube censoring curse words in user comments? fucking pussies.
What a headcase bitch! She should burn in hell. What a stupid bitch! She dates him in the first place because she was looking for a meal ticket. Fuckin cunt!!! Of course he probably told her that we can't do this anymore. He is married! All she was was a piece of ass. Piece of ass! That's it! Did she think it was love? Did he think he would leave his wife? What a joke! Money hungry bitch! There are so many gold digging whores out there. Us men have to be careful of these bitches!
First- #1 racial figure( racial distinct,or racial discrimination ) are White people not a Black,even God himself knew that.
Second - #1 cold bloody killer are white,even God himself knew that.
Third - #1 Terrorist in the world are white people or Caucasian, not black people ,even God himself knew that. Why you are being so angry about your identity ,God himself knew who you really are.Stop being ignorant to yourself..White people are the mass murders,mass cold killers
play with fire, you're gonna get burned - fucker was a millionaire, had a nice wife and goods, a good profession, and he still wasn't happy. go figure. Thus ends my condolences.... My sympathy is for his family.
Some extra tail is often seen as the perks of working hard to get wealth & power with most cultures within the animal kingdom. The monogamy thing is a learned behavior, reinforced with conditioning & women's cultural ascendancy. I admit, this could all be crap. But, it sounds good.
Its sad that McNair got killed. I feel bad for his family. He did not deserve to die. However, Steve McNair was wrong in his actions. He met the young girl when she was a teenager and he was 16 years older than her. Why try to maintain a realtionship like that while staying married? It is bound not to end well. Cenk keeps saying Steve McNair was a great guy and he keeps insulting the girl. Maybe she was crazy but the girl didnt have a spouse and she didn't have kids to answer to. McNair did.
Some of you fools watch waaaaay to much CSI reruns. Sometimes a murder-suicide is just a murder-suicide. Maybe, there was a 2nd shooter on the nearby grassy knoll the police didn't consider. Christ! Just follow the last few days leading up to the crime & the evidence. What's missing for you Area 51 Jr. Space Cadets????
Shot in their sleep and made to look like she killed him... She went and bought a gun with Steve to protect herself. How do you know someone could have been stalking them. Went in early and capped the both with the gun she bought to make it look like she did the homicide... I don't buy this murder suicide story at all, it's to dam easy.
I live in Nashville. We all believe that the Nashville police aren't doing their job. They want to call it murder-suicide. However, it doesn't seem like it is so.
Very sad thing. For His clhildren, his wife, and obviously for Steve. People make mistakes, and imho, he must have been breaking it off... she was insane. AND ugly. I'm not sayin' anything, I'm just sayin'.... it's sad.
It's disgusting of Cenk to call her a "bitch-ass". He doesn't know how their relationship was. Maybe she was just crazy, maybe McNair wasn't as great as he seemed. It's not unreasonable to conjecture that he may have led an impressionable girl on. He didn't deserve to die but we shouldn't just brush what he did aside and blame it all on the girl w/o knowing more about their relationship. I agree w/ Cenk on a lot of things but he uses the 'boys will be boys' excuse too often.
No matter if he led her on, if he 'wasn't as great as she seems', it doesn't matter. The end result (murder) here so overwhelmingly outweighs any possible offense that we are not brushing anything aside. She MURDERED him, she is a MURDERER, which is far, far, far worse than a cheater, an adulterer, or anything thing else that could conceivably attach here.
Try to get beyond your gender on this and look at this not as a girl but as a human being.
I assume you're against war and self-defense, etc. then also? I am looking it as a human being (I don't see how u separate girl from human being but w/e), and from a human perspective murder isn't black and white for me; if she were on trial for murder I would want to look at WHY before I judge her. So unless I kno mre I can't condone calling someone a bitch-ass.
Honestly, you cannot appreciate the difference between self-defense and cold blooded murder?
If you were a juror in a murder trial, you would be expected to apply the law. Self-defense would be a defense in a murder case; but there is no indication of that here. The fact that he 'led her on' would not be a defense. If you went about it your way, you would be committing jury misconduct.
It's funny that you talk about condoning a term when all the guy is doing is not condoning murder.
You're misunderstanding my argument. Who says I would let her off? As Cenk says in the clip, there doesn't appear to be a MOTIVE. So we can't, based on info in the clip, assume tt she's a cold-blooded murderer. As a jury, we wld need to hear the evidence first. Self-defense is not what i'm positing happened here, it was used to refute your argument tt murder is the worse, regardless of circumstances.
I can agree w/his stance and still criticize the way he came to it, and the way he phrased it.
Why? She is a bitch-ass cunt. Fucking killed a good man for no reason. No sympathy for her rotten ass. Why the harsh tone you may ask? I'm fucking pissed off.
Steve McNair cannot be a good man. He cheated on his wife and kids. He co-leased a condo in downtown Nashville with his girlfriend. Both, Steve McNair and his girlfriend knew that their actions were wrong.
You're entitled to your feelings...I just don't know how I would feel if I were judged only by my worse actions. Both she and McNair may be more complicated than you give them credit for.
Maybe he was an asshole, but murder? I know some people feel the whole "crime passionnel" is mitigating but I disagree. I don't care why you got mad and murdered someone, I care that you did it. There's no comparison between those two.
If she'd wrecked his car, hell if she'd beat him up with a stick or something, all understandable reactions. The second you pick up a gun or a knife or what have you, you lose all my sympathy.
Same goes for the DUI by the way. There's no excuse in my book.
Okay WTF If she got a DWI right before she bought the gun..........WHY WAS SHE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE A FIREARM? (Not in general but just that quickly after getting a DWI) dont they have background checks?
I'm sick of mistresses. They are terrible pieces of scum, and they are extremely stupid for believing jerk men who want to sleep around instead of being with their wives. It's shocking how dumb some women can be just to want to get some sex and get knocked up.
"he was fantastic to his family"you should tell the truth he was unfaithful to his wife and children a man that would betray his family is not a great man.
why is she a bitch?? if the tables were turned and he killed her and then himself, you wouldn't call him names, would you. both are wrong, but don't be a sexist pig about it. it's not like he was an honorable married man, he was a creeper. you leave yourself open to tragedy when you play with people's emotions like that. everyone has their breaking point. again, you wouldn't name call on mcnair, so lay off kazemi.
YOU accused Cenk of a double standard which never occurred. You ASSUMED (which tells where YOU are coming from) that had McNair shot the girl, instead of the other way around, that CENK would NOT have condemned McNair.
That is an unfair assumption, and I believe you are wrong.
Note that I asked you if you were stupid, I didn't tell you that you were.
That you ASSUMED I did IS revealing.
"Condescending"? To take exception to a biased remark is condescending?
while i do not condone this man's death, i do think it is quite clear that women aren't going to put up with a dog;s behavior. mcnair was a creeping dog, regardless of whatever else he was, and girlfriend got fed up. men feel so entitled to cheat, and women are tired of it. he has a wife, the girlfriend who shot him, and he may have been seeing another? how much did he care about his kids to do that? he only cared about himself, and look where it got him. it's sad.
It seems you are completely ignoring that the woman was 20 years old and knew McNair was a married man (GOLD DIGGER?). So for you, she was justified and he was a "creeping dog".
Hey, he's dead. He paid the ultimate price and his family will have to endure the shame.
But she was a murderous sack of shit.
Which sin is the worse, the adultery they both had in common, or the murder she alone perpetrated?
I've heard it said: "In a fox hole and bombs are falling there are no atheists" I guess it depends on where you are and what's truly going on at that time to determine that my friend! You know what i'm sayin' ?
I've also heard that when parents give birth to a child with a life threatening disability they become atheists. I think it is pathetic that people turn to God when they are in chaotic situations. It only shows that we created God for comfort. Why do you think Native Americans already had their own deity when Europeans invaded the New World? It is because it is human nature to make up higher powers to clean up what we don't understand and give us a sense of purpose or comfort. Be real man....
I have never heard that, i have heard many pray to god to see the child through. Son I'm about as real as they come, and my faith in god is as about as real as i think god is. Speak not to me about the lack of god, because i have prayed many times and the lord has always aswered me. As you said what 'we don't understand', i say speak for yourself.
Look buddy. I am sorry to break it to you, but God is just like Santa Claus. You believed Santa Claus for such a long time until your parents broke it to you. Children have impressionable minds. I don't know what religion you follow, but just imagine if you were born in a different country....you would have a different faith. It is a mere accident of birth. Also, religion has always been used to justify what we don't understand likethe origin of the earth. Apollo was the sun before. It is BS!
Look Buudy, who the fuck are U to tell me anything about god???? I'm a grown ass man and have a critical mind to see what i think is the truth, just like you boy! Religion has been with man since the dawn of his age, what does that tell you? It tells me that man has a natural sense of god, he may call it by many different names but the concept and understanding is the same. God is natural to man. Because you choose to live without it, fine but get that shit outta' my face son! Good bye!
Obviously you don't have a critical mind if you can't see that we made up God. It is natural for humans to come up with a God but that doesn't do any bearing on the truth of it. Tell me...which religion do you follow? Do you believe that everyone else but the people that follow your religion will be saved? Do you actually think a merciful God would punish those with skeptical mindsets who are good people and reward conformists who do bad deeds? Tell me which religion you follow grown ass "man."
I say it's better to pay for play than this crazy shit. Having a mistress is just too dangerous, especially with one of these near teeny boppers he was having an affair with. It's clear that she was not willing to let anyone else have him. Pscyo-babe all the way. McNair was a tough guy, but looks like this little gal might have been tougher. What a shame and tragedy for all. I say "stick with the wife, she'll kill you too, but much much slower" !
I meant Kazemi still she bought the gun and kept it hidden and waited for the perfect chance to kill him. So when McNair took a nap on the couch she killed him and then herself. I mean it doesn't take an idiot to figure it out that if she couldn't have him and didn't want to go back to her old lifestyle then no one could have him.
It was murder suicide. I mean once they reported that the gun was next to her and had a gun shot to the head any reasonable person could figure it out. Still, police always have to take every other possibility into account. Still, the real truth will never be revealed but I bet you anything and I think all would agree on this theory. Steve was talking about ending the relationship with Kazumi because Steve didn't want to leave his boys. Kazumi then snapped bought a gun the two days before.
Yes. Exactly. It's both Sanford and Michael Jackson. While discussing Mcnair there are both elements of untimely death, scarred legacy and infidelity. Elements that apply to both Jackson and Sanford.
Two people he obviously had personal issues with. Somehow that makes them prime targets for endless slander and Steve Mcnair is a saint who he refuses to acknowledge with the same malicious scrutiny he reserves for those he OBVIOUSLY doesn't like.
Sanford had come out against Clinton calling on family values and all of that. Then he gets caught fuckin' some babe in South Am? McNair was a QB in the NFL, he was no Governor running on a conservative platform and extolling the virtues of family values as part of his platform. That's why Sanford looks so bad and why CENK went after him. SANFORD is a HYPOCRITE not Cenk.
So... infidelity is ok as long as you didn't turn as anti-infidelity stance into a talking point during your career?
And I don't know how far the concept of values have slipped in this world, but I do know that whether you're a politician or a football player, when you're married with children the very existence of that union "extolls" family values til you break it.
Both men cheated on their wives and Cenk has a problem with one and not with the other because of his personal bullshit bias.
You do make a valid point, and i will not disagree with what you say in totality, but when one takes up a public stance then shits on it, it does draw out the arrows, would'nt you agree? And comming from the Hypocritical repugs just adds gas to the flame! One last thing, McNair lost his life........Sanford just got censured. That's how i see it.
You're right Sanford did put himself in he spotlight because of his empty rhetoric. No doubt. But underneath who said what, they both practiced the same kind of deceit. On the other hand, McNair lost his life, but so did Michael Jackson and Cenk has said some of the most vile shit about him from the day that he died until this very day. He picks sides based on his bias. Sanford cheats, McNair cheats he chooses McNair. Jackson dies, McNair dies, he chooses McNair and justifies it through bias.
He was dumping on Sanford for being a hipocrite and wanting to Impeach Clinton when he was in office for his affair when he himself has had an affair too, then Sanford started to say that he was in love with his mistress.
McNair had his affair but he didn't go off like Sanford. All in all McNair shouldn't have been killed and I'm sure Cenk would've said the same thing if Sanford was killed over an affair.
"double-standard"? Not at all. Cenk "piled on Sanford" for being an outspoken pillar of righteousness and morality. Sanford is a true hypocrite, "do as I say, not as I do".
McNair made a sinful error, and paid the ultimate price. He was NOT however, a hypocrite like Sanford! McNair was actually a very likable fellow, and did not push his morality on others very much unlike Sanford.
I completely condemn adultery no matter who it is.
But as you admitted that Sanford was a self-righteous hypocrite, that's what made him an ahole in my book.
McNair donated money to charities, was well-liked and was a very good person in many ways. His undoing was that he committed an unfortunately common human transgression, and "it" back-fired in a big way. It's a sad commentary on society, and I feel sad for McNair and especially his family.
Nobody has said that McNair is a saint for what he has done. It has cost him his life in the end. I say have some respect for the dead, he did'nt deserve to die over some ass, but unfortunately some of us do. The fact does remain that Being PIOUS and lambasting another person for what he in the end was just as guilty for is reprehensible IMO. McNair just dosen't come under that banner. He was a QB, Sanford was a public servant taking up the PUBLIC TRUST! Much much different i fear!
Yeah, but his dumb ass is still dead because he cheated on his wife! Is this fact escaping everyone?! Who gives a shit whether or not a "sinful error was made" ( I don't even know what the fuck that means, sins are bad right?) or you spent time in the public eye touting "family values". Both of these jackasses cheated on their wives. one's career is in the toilet and the other is dead. They both liked extracurricular ass and they are both paying for it.
Have you ever heard the term " To Err is Human" ? Human beings will fuck up at times, it's ugly, but it's just how it is. You are certainly not perfect and i pray that you never make such a mistake in your life. These men did, but it does come down to how you fail not that you failed. Sanford failed in a very sheepish and disgusting way. McNair failed in a very surprising and terrible way. People are prolly gonna' feel more for McNair than Sanford. There is compassion for the dead.
Steve McNair didn't walk out of his house and accidentally get hit by a car crossing the street. He was having an illicit affair, with a mistress, whom he was co-owner of her motor vehicle. Things went wrong and he died.
If I see a wallet fall from someone's pocket and take it or if I knock them in the head and take it, I'm still a thief.
Neither one of these individuals "failed" doing the right thing. Success can be measured in a multitude of ways. Failure can only be measured in one.
bitchass side action.......fuckin bitches....
perrytheplatapusshif 4 months ago
He brought this on himself. He had the sin of pride that allowed him to justify the sin of adultery. He probably told that girl a lot of lies, claiming he did love her and he'll leave his wife for her, but when he got tired of her and she got in trouble he SHOWED her how he really felt about her (ass on the side). I don't belive for a secound he was a true Catholic, no matter how much he gave to charities. he was a great football player but in the same sense, strippers are great dancers.
Jaseida 11 months ago
When heard this case, felt bad for BOTH victims. when I heard how young the female was, I was INCENSED at McNair! Bad enuf he's cheating on wife/kids, but with ANOTHER KID?? This makes Mc Nair a molester AND adulterer.
Years ago, a married woman (same age as my mother) decided to have an affair with a teenage boy. Guess what happened?? She was shot dead on the front steps of her home by teenage lover!! Why? He simply wanted a dramatic end to their relationship.
shewillful 1 year ago
I believe this was a honor killing because she was with a Brotha & some ppl in her race didn't approve of their relationship. (jealousy)
garychldress74 1 year ago
nigers are nigers people doesn't matter how much you pay them
JJGMUSIC 1 year ago
Jr or what ever the black due names is sucks every time.....always off topic....
maxamillion1011 1 year ago
mcnair was murdered to deflect attention from the jewish murder of michael jackson
fenderbass 1 year ago
@fenderbass HAHAHAHAH funniest comment ive heard in a while. Michael Jackson was just a musician. A retired one at that. It's not like he was some political leader out to get those "zionist devils"
Risky272 1 year ago
@Risky272 Zionist Devil,you wouldn't understand if it smacked the fuck upside your ignorant head
fenderbass 1 year ago
What a screwed ass women. if you can't take being dumped you either need serious help or can just die...and mcnair should've known better than to go out with that scary vermin. i mean she looks like a creep right off the bat. hope the devil torchers her
XxSteelersrsickxX 1 year ago
@XxSteelersrsickxX don't get me wrong i'm not defending what the psycho did, but if mcnair had any f***ing morals, none of that would have ever happened. only worthless pieces of sh** cheat on their significant other
gamelvr1 1 year ago
im a colts and a giants fan, and i absolutely despise the titans, but i did like mcnair.... crazy psyco girl shoulda jus killed herself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
horselovr2410 2 years ago
what an asshole. his wife was way hotter than the crazy bitch who shoot him.
ArgoteMasterChief 2 years ago
I bet she fucked really good because she was insane..
nsewx 2 years ago
You know you woulod think, if he was gonna cheat, you would think she would be hotter than her. She looks like a stork. Well, I guess it dosn't matter, they are both dead now. What a shame..
LBjim 2 years ago
first of all, LBJIM, look ar ur comment k? seriously just think about what you just said... what does hottness have to do with anything???? and 2nd of all, wut ur saying, its ok if he cheated with someone if they were super hot? >..... 3rd of all...... That girl is prettty hot, just because u white people don't think middle eastern girls are hot, doesnt mean its true.... ovbiosuly he wanted her at one point so that means she had a total package,,,, besides the guys an idiot !!! wrong girl man!
akbar232323 2 years ago
Hey, All I can say is that the bother loved psychos and he payed the price. Another typical player that can't keep his dick in his pants, like I said the chick is a dog, but then again so was Steve McNair..AIR MCNAIR IS NOW DEAD MCNAIR!!...very sad anyway you look at it..A tragedy
LBjim 2 years ago
Warren Moon never played with the Titans in Nashville, the young turks aren't sports savvy
GetCarter010 2 years ago
hes was very nice guy bill clinton cheated on his wife along with many others i dont encourage it but it happends
Bobmarley4201992 2 years ago
Bill cheated on more than his wife?
:P
Lesserthannone 2 years ago
u play w/fire,,u gonna get burned.simple fact.not quantum physics..learn from that
majesticrecords 2 years ago
Warren Moon was the Oilers/Titans QB back in the 80's. 78-83 (CFL) 84-00 (NFL). starting 10 years before McNair was in the NFL.
MartinezCowboys1 2 years ago
what are you 15 year old? warren moon was released from the team, this was WAY before the Oilers moved to Nashville, he did a stint with the Vikings before he left the NFL
GetCarter010 2 years ago
I'm 15? No. Also Warren Moon was Traded, and what happened 2 years after? Oh yeah McNair Came into the NFL, and he played for the Oilers. Have you ever looked at the Hall of Fame, Oilers players are considered Titans. So what if he Warren was traded, what happened to McNair, oh yeah 2 years at the Ravens, so is he not considered a Titans QB? McNair was 27,141 yards 156 TD-103Int as a Titan. Warren was 33685 yards 196TD-166int as a Oiler (Titan). Warren also played for the Seahawks, and Chiefs..
MartinezCowboys1 2 years ago
Also, I typed Oilers/Titans on the other post, because that's what he is, to say that he isn't a Titan, because he didn't transfer cities with the team doesn't mean shit. He played for the Franchise so it doesn't matter, and 5 years isn't a "WAY" long time from when they moved to Tennessee, and do you know what they were called? Tennessee Oilers in 97', then changed the name to Titans. So McNair, was an Oiler for 4 years, so should we erase those from titan stats then? I'm a Titan,Cowboys fan.
MartinezCowboys1 2 years ago
Cenk you have horrible taste in girls. You say the ugliest people are hot but when you have a really cute girl you say she's ugly!?!?!? This girl was beautiful dude!!!
upplsuckimcool16 2 years ago
except for her nose. that looked kinda off but yeah i'd hit it
Justinpfx 2 years ago
Why would Steve Mcnair date someone like that?
emel703 2 years ago
Hopefully they both rot in hell.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
Idiot
persiandudeee 2 years ago
Dumbass Americanized hoe.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
ok steve mcnair was a nice guy. lets ressurect him then.
marvelous2055 2 years ago
Wow...these two guys are fuckin idiots!!!! He completely tarnished everything he works for in his whole life.....why lead on a 20 year old, promise her this and that, that u are leaving your wife...this dude, put this pussy before his CHILDREN and wife...and to top it off, besides playin her he was seeing multiple other women...I would respect Steve much much more if he told her straight up, it just sex, nothing more...but Steve completely led this girl on and broke her heart!
acuralo 2 years ago
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Obviously this animal was beating her and she bought the gun to defend herself-he tried to kill her and got himself shot for the trouble
DEBBIEWEASEL 2 years ago
The animal is the one who shot him. Stop trying to go "there."
n0gar 2 years ago
You stupid,you dumbass women swear you know so much .You just taking a wild guess. there is absolutely no logic to your theory just shut up.
NegaRacci7 2 years ago
R.I.P # 9....
R.I.HELL SAHEL KAZEMI.
thestreetdogg 2 years ago
Bad father and bad husband says a lot about this person. His legacy is no more. Everything good he did in the past such as his philanthropic work is down the tubes. So men watch yourselves before you cheat on your wives. Fatal attraction kills!
sniperx29x 2 years ago
Dumb Steve McNair killed over Iranian Twat
naas000media 2 years ago
yaa, she found out his trick, how can a man with four kids do it, so watch Iranians ,they are going to fck you, you deserve it.
That black idiot with four sons deserved shooting
zibahajizadeh 2 years ago
So... Steve McNair shouldn't take responsibility? He was living a risking lifestyle. He is no better than the crazy girl that did the shooting. It's too bad he chose to throw away his legacy and his family to go "gangsta."
His mom was quoted as saying " The way I see it this was not God's work (meaning God calling Steve home) -- this was the devil's work." Even his mom acknowledged he had sold his soul to the devil.
LuvToSurfdotcom 2 years ago
What's the name of these two announcers? I like them both. Seen the first fella before humerous times on You Tube & I like his analyses of things.
The 2nd one was called "JR", guess he's a DJ. What city is he in?
esquireyes 2 years ago
I agree with the Turkish announcer, she is not all that. She is delusional, not a good person. Sounds like that black guy on this show is taking up for the mistress saying maybe she was a good person and the women who marry athletes should expect to be cheated on. That says a lot more about his character than it does about the pro athletes. This mistress knew that he was married when she met him and we all know how that story ends and it's usually with the mistress being left high and dry..
nospaces08 2 years ago
The Young Turks...why are you basing your foolish assumptions.
I had a situation where I was trying to get out of...I didn't have a wife...and yes, it almost cost me my life.
Now...whatever happened to McNair seeing signs and saying she's crazy???
Instead...of her, a $7.00hr D&B employee wanting to let a millionaire go, he killed her.
People go crazy over celebs. Look at the fan that killed John Lennon.
She was mad about her bills and her life not going the way she wanted.
CALICOTV301 2 years ago
John Lennon wasn't killed by a fan you DOPE! He was killed my a mind-controlled assassin (no im not making that up) who's controller was the same controller as john hinckley jr.'s controller, HIS FATHER!!!
lpercenter 2 years ago
Im a musician. I know who he was killed by.
My point is obsession. A 20 year old woman working at Dave & Busters and a 36 year old milionaire.
Do the math.
Ask women on the street who this girl is...
Now ask women on the street who McNair is.
So I won't even call you a "DOPE" back.
My point was being obsessive.
CALICOTV301 2 years ago
On my previous message, I read your statement wrong.
I thought you said something he ***was*** killed by a fan.
Oops, sorry.
Well...according to reports and my readings, he was killed by a fan.
John Lennon also said himself in an interview that he believed he'd be killed by a fan. I know the story.
Now...no one knows "truthfully."
But...my point wasn't John Lennon.
My point was obsession. Seems that you found the first person to put on Blast. Congratrulations
CALICOTV301 2 years ago
right on, cenk you're correct!!
ankokugaiBOSS 2 years ago
This sick ass white a bitch killed talented black man, i am glad that she's killing Yourself too!
crazy white bitch vs Derek Fisher families
crazy mexican bitch vs Kobe families
now death Steve McNair
People say that a movie "Obsessed" is bullshit not real!
White devil remain with white people!
I hate white people muthafucka!
brownheartxxx 2 years ago
Obama is president asshole. Behave yourself. You are making your race look real bad. If you're joking it ain't funny. Finally a great black man gets elected and people like you can't straighten themselves out.
eqsmooth 2 years ago
WOW!
She's not "white."
CALICOTV301 2 years ago
Might it be because she felt he ruined her life, and now she was going to take him with her.
jmspflw 2 years ago
I wish this guys boyfriend would shoot him in the head. TYT suck
URUROTRASH 2 years ago
She is in hell for sure, but McNair.....??? Don't know about that, after all he was an extremely charitable person, he did good for many other souls in this world with his charitable foundation. Touched many lives, more than most cheap, mean, vicious uncharitable people in this world. That does work in his favor..... ......who knows?? As i have been taught, god is forgiving.
nagone11 2 years ago
That dumb girl just bought a one way ticket to hell for herself and McNair.
He's an adulter and she committed suicide. Enjoy the hot climate
ponybastard999 2 years ago
its funny that men think him cheating on his wife is no big deal...smdh...the point is if he would have kept his dick in his wife...HE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE!!!!!!
Quishanumber1 2 years ago 2
what 'family values" do we have when we "celebrate' Drug addicted homosexual child molesters like Michael Jackson and Cheating,lying idiots like Mcnair who killed this poor girl!
joefirstclass 2 years ago
Lets assume a Democrat had an affair and not Sanford, youre telling me its ok because the Democrats aren't preaching about family values? Are you kidding me? What kind of double standard fucked up logic is that? Lets hold all Democrats to a lower light than the Republicans simply because if theyre not preaching about family values its ok to cheat on your wife. Hell, its more than ok, its expected. Seriously, just agree that cheating on your wife makes you a bad guy.
dukesmaviddicky 2 years ago
I will agree cheating on your wife is bad. Will you agree that telling others not do it and end up doing is at least a little worst?
bumfire007 2 years ago
Yes. I agree 100% that being a hypocritical ass on top of cheating on your wife is a bit worse.
dukesmaviddicky 2 years ago
Looks like he killed that girl and then did himself when he knew there was no way out
AmericaWithIsrael 2 years ago
No need for name calling, duke didn't call anyone names he just took a stance I can't fathom.
bumfire007 2 years ago
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Looks more like HE killed her,then offed himself.He probably got her pregnant and didnt want to pay for the big time child support she was gonna take him for.Remember that other colored football guy that killed his pregnant girlfriend about 10 years ago?His name way Ray Carruth.This "Pimp Daddy" or whatever you colored guys like to think about yourselves obviouslly killed her then offed himself when he couldnt figure out a way to get away with it because he was too damned dumb.
smellytaz 2 years ago
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This clown was probably cheating her,beating her,and gave a sexually transmitted disease to her,when she found out she was pregnant by him,she lost control.Its a shame that the MTV era that we live in now encourages women to be with 'Gangsta" idiots because its politically correct.Remember OJ,the other moron we called a "Hero"?
DEBBIEWEASEL 2 years ago
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This poor confused young woman is just another victim of the current fad making it fashionable to go after gangsta badboy types,she probably felt ashamed and humiliated by this ape who very likely could throw some footballs and run real fast but couldnt even spell his own name.Hopefully women learn from this
joefirstclass 2 years ago
"But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul." Reigns oh so true :-\
kaitenuser 2 years ago
she was ugly though
mitchelscott 2 years ago
it was her gun
mitchelscott 2 years ago
thats what he gets...hes lived a crooked life..hes cheated on his wife several times...if u do somting ur not supposed "shit happens" deal with it
harmer1979 2 years ago
Tell me how you really feel Cenk.
FalconM109 2 years ago
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What the fuck was that old nigger going out with some kid? Dumb nigger.
word559 2 years ago
wow...
aquaknot 2 years ago
Word.
MuscleCatClothing 2 years ago
the girl was my relative
XWMWMX 2 years ago
how was she as a person? was she crazy or something? and did you know about her affair with steve mcnair?
MSH786 2 years ago
i didn't know her ..... only saw her and stuff
and idk dont call her crazy, she was probably like that since even her mother got murdered
XWMWMX 2 years ago
What have this woman's looks got to do with anything? Steve McNair shouldn't have been having an affair with her in the first place, irrespective of how she looks. If you cannot commit to a marriage, do NOT get married; it's that simple. Cenk SHOULD be talking about the fact the man has compromised his family and not talking about how attractive the woman, which shows me how shallow HE is. Fucking idiot.
ezekielthemack 2 years ago
but he shouldnt had gotten shot...
shaochiavang 2 years ago
No kidding... one of the reasons she shot him was cuz she thought he was having a second affair. His wife wasn't enough, and a woman on the side wasn't enough. He didn't deserve to die, but it all could have been avoided if he just kept it in his pants and didn't stray from his wife and kids.
brawlmasterx96 2 years ago 2
he is uggly too.
FroggyHope 2 years ago
Look, McNair was an awesome quarterback, and was very active in charities in the Nashville area. I don't want to detract from his legacy at all.
But seriously, when's the cutoff for being a barrier-breaker for being a black quarterback?
What about Rodney Peete?
Randall Cunningham?
Warren Moon?
Doug Williams?
Jim Kelly gave up a scholarship because he didn't want to be a linebacker. Does that make him a barrier-breaker for white quarterbacks?
tkwsni 2 years ago
These athletes have rotations that go 6 women deep. Now, he'll be 6 (feet) deep. She was pissed b/c she wasn't a starter...she's obviously a bench player & in no way starter material on Team McNair. Pros don't have these little satellite condominiums set up for no reason. Those are for away games.
ThatguyNice 2 years ago
why do people assume this was his first or only extra marital fling ,she was not the first ,these things are a pattern.Regardless he made a bad decision with her that's obvious.He was a good person but wow what his poor kids gotta live with forever.
27thebigm 2 years ago
That bitch who blew him away was UGLY.
But who knows, maybe she could fuck...
MuscleCatClothing 2 years ago
How is Steve McNair such a great guy when he has an affair on his wife who he has four kids with? Normally I agree with your points, but that is just plain stupid. Completely exonerating McNair is simply wrong. He started stickin' it where he shouldn't have. Anybody should no that is a stupid idea.
firesting81 2 years ago
Why do these guys get married in the first place? Love? Yeah, he showed his wife how much he loved her alright. Nothing here but a trajedy. Lesson learned, I guess.
JRFrancisco20088 2 years ago
whatever any female says about how bad cheating is...it is never okay to kill someone over it...stupid ass iranian! why'd she have to take steve with her? selfish bitch
kafoos05 2 years ago
Hey McNair was the pussy worth it? Cheating bitch.
LilacStar82 2 years ago
She's an idiot and a nut! SHE IS the other woman!!!! And she's upset he's seeing someone else? She was living in a fantasy world of he's gonna marry me etc etc. He was screwing you dear, nothing more. Now, you're a double murderer.
cbc2u 2 years ago
i miss steve mcnair
ratmaslove 2 years ago
that sucks helium
steevrawjers 2 years ago
the lessons we should all take from this tragedy is that one should be very careful in choosing and handling a mistress. in other words, keep the freaks you pick up at a certain distance. Also, is youtube censoring curse words in user comments? fucking pussies.
dali6105 2 years ago
What a headcase bitch! She should burn in hell. What a stupid bitch! She dates him in the first place because she was looking for a meal ticket. Fuckin cunt!!! Of course he probably told her that we can't do this anymore. He is married! All she was was a piece of ass. Piece of ass! That's it! Did she think it was love? Did he think he would leave his wife? What a joke! Money hungry bitch! There are so many gold digging whores out there. Us men have to be careful of these bitches!
scoresby33 2 years ago
ass
friction00815 2 years ago
badass dumbass
friction00815 2 years ago
First- #1 racial figure( racial distinct,or racial discrimination ) are White people not a Black,even God himself knew that.
Second - #1 cold bloody killer are white,even God himself knew that.
Third - #1 Terrorist in the world are white people or Caucasian, not black people ,even God himself knew that. Why you are being so angry about your identity ,God himself knew who you really are.Stop being ignorant to yourself..White people are the mass murders,mass cold killers
mars3400 2 years ago
Condolences to his wife and family; and especially the counseling for the children. This is alot to deal with.
TheLoneWolf52 2 years ago
is this idiot for real?
dickvandickweed 2 years ago
play with fire, you're gonna get burned - fucker was a millionaire, had a nice wife and goods, a good profession, and he still wasn't happy. go figure. Thus ends my condolences.... My sympathy is for his family.
blueinfinite 2 years ago 2
Some extra tail is often seen as the perks of working hard to get wealth & power with most cultures within the animal kingdom. The monogamy thing is a learned behavior, reinforced with conditioning & women's cultural ascendancy. I admit, this could all be crap. But, it sounds good.
ThatguyNice 2 years ago
No kidding. If I had half of what McNair had I'd guard it with my life.
g1Chase357 2 years ago
Its sad that McNair got killed. I feel bad for his family. He did not deserve to die. However, Steve McNair was wrong in his actions. He met the young girl when she was a teenager and he was 16 years older than her. Why try to maintain a realtionship like that while staying married? It is bound not to end well. Cenk keeps saying Steve McNair was a great guy and he keeps insulting the girl. Maybe she was crazy but the girl didnt have a spouse and she didn't have kids to answer to. McNair did.
1145FLOWER 2 years ago 2
I still like McNair! I loved to watch him, he was a great athlete, he gave TONS to charity and too bad for the psycho!
WhiteBull 2 years ago
Would this have happened if Obama had a tougher policy on Iran?
I don't know. But, that sounds like an upcoming Fox News headline.
ThatguyNice 2 years ago 3
lol!
ccm800 2 years ago
Holy crap that's funny, i just saw that!
nagone11 2 years ago
Some of you fools watch waaaaay to much CSI reruns. Sometimes a murder-suicide is just a murder-suicide. Maybe, there was a 2nd shooter on the nearby grassy knoll the police didn't consider. Christ! Just follow the last few days leading up to the crime & the evidence. What's missing for you Area 51 Jr. Space Cadets????
ThatguyNice 2 years ago
sucks for him, was his girlfriend Iraqi? There are a lot of Kurds living in Tennese from what I understand
tico8007 2 years ago
Iranian
televin 2 years ago
Why are you all ********* your fucking comments?
gonyea12 2 years ago
Shot in their sleep and made to look like she killed him... She went and bought a gun with Steve to protect herself. How do you know someone could have been stalking them. Went in early and capped the both with the gun she bought to make it look like she did the homicide... I don't buy this murder suicide story at all, it's to dam easy.
viewerscut 2 years ago
jayar, i do not care
MulcheArcade 2 years ago
I live in Nashville. We all believe that the Nashville police aren't doing their job. They want to call it murder-suicide. However, it doesn't seem like it is so.
lawforever 2 years ago
Very sad thing. For His clhildren, his wife, and obviously for Steve. People make mistakes, and imho, he must have been breaking it off... she was insane. AND ugly. I'm not sayin' anything, I'm just sayin'.... it's sad.
elfielvr 2 years ago
Very
beanio12 2 years ago
It's disgusting of Cenk to call her a "bitch-ass". He doesn't know how their relationship was. Maybe she was just crazy, maybe McNair wasn't as great as he seemed. It's not unreasonable to conjecture that he may have led an impressionable girl on. He didn't deserve to die but we shouldn't just brush what he did aside and blame it all on the girl w/o knowing more about their relationship. I agree w/ Cenk on a lot of things but he uses the 'boys will be boys' excuse too often.
forgottenswtness 2 years ago 4
No matter if he led her on, if he 'wasn't as great as she seems', it doesn't matter. The end result (murder) here so overwhelmingly outweighs any possible offense that we are not brushing anything aside. She MURDERED him, she is a MURDERER, which is far, far, far worse than a cheater, an adulterer, or anything thing else that could conceivably attach here.
Try to get beyond your gender on this and look at this not as a girl but as a human being.
pantherhawkrolling 2 years ago
I assume you're against war and self-defense, etc. then also? I am looking it as a human being (I don't see how u separate girl from human being but w/e), and from a human perspective murder isn't black and white for me; if she were on trial for murder I would want to look at WHY before I judge her. So unless I kno mre I can't condone calling someone a bitch-ass.
forgottenswtness 2 years ago
Honestly, you cannot appreciate the difference between self-defense and cold blooded murder?
If you were a juror in a murder trial, you would be expected to apply the law. Self-defense would be a defense in a murder case; but there is no indication of that here. The fact that he 'led her on' would not be a defense. If you went about it your way, you would be committing jury misconduct.
It's funny that you talk about condoning a term when all the guy is doing is not condoning murder.
pantherhawkrolling 2 years ago
You're misunderstanding my argument. Who says I would let her off? As Cenk says in the clip, there doesn't appear to be a MOTIVE. So we can't, based on info in the clip, assume tt she's a cold-blooded murderer. As a jury, we wld need to hear the evidence first. Self-defense is not what i'm positing happened here, it was used to refute your argument tt murder is the worse, regardless of circumstances.
I can agree w/his stance and still criticize the way he came to it, and the way he phrased it.
forgottenswtness 2 years ago
Why? She is a bitch-ass cunt. Fucking killed a good man for no reason. No sympathy for her rotten ass. Why the harsh tone you may ask? I'm fucking pissed off.
Umberto2 2 years ago 3
Steve McNair cannot be a good man. He cheated on his wife and kids. He co-leased a condo in downtown Nashville with his girlfriend. Both, Steve McNair and his girlfriend knew that their actions were wrong.
lawforever 2 years ago
You're entitled to your feelings...I just don't know how I would feel if I were judged only by my worse actions. Both she and McNair may be more complicated than you give them credit for.
forgottenswtness 2 years ago
Maybe he was an asshole, but murder? I know some people feel the whole "crime passionnel" is mitigating but I disagree. I don't care why you got mad and murdered someone, I care that you did it. There's no comparison between those two.
If she'd wrecked his car, hell if she'd beat him up with a stick or something, all understandable reactions. The second you pick up a gun or a knife or what have you, you lose all my sympathy.
Same goes for the DUI by the way. There's no excuse in my book.
megamarsvin 2 years ago
that's sad
TheBlacky26 2 years ago
Nice rant at the end, Cenk!
R.I.P. Steve McNair
ihatelifejosemartine 2 years ago
How awful for his wife and kids.
I agree why didn't she just do herself?
VenusBlue4u 2 years ago
Okay WTF If she got a DWI right before she bought the gun..........WHY WAS SHE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE A FIREARM? (Not in general but just that quickly after getting a DWI) dont they have background checks?
UltimoLatino 2 years ago
I'm sick of mistresses. They are terrible pieces of scum, and they are extremely stupid for believing jerk men who want to sleep around instead of being with their wives. It's shocking how dumb some women can be just to want to get some sex and get knocked up.
FelinityMithra 2 years ago 3
OOOOOFFFFF COOOOOURSE!
weemadjake 2 years ago
It's just a sad thing. Everything I've heard about McNair made him out to be a nice guy. We all make mistakes, I'll be the first to admit that.
I think it was obvious to the police from Day One, but they did the right thing to investigate.
Condolences to his family.
sachaput 2 years ago
She was pissed for having to fuck that nigga' and getting nothin' in return, is amazing what people do for money.
DarkPractitioner 2 years ago
Dark,
Gettin' an Escalade and a high-end condo, let alone the cash i'm sure she got is nuthin'?......."te salud" my friend. You must be rollin' in dough?
Son she was in crazy love with all he gave her and the lovin' she was getting, she lost her mind and snapped.
nagone11 2 years ago
"he was fantastic to his family"you should tell the truth he was unfaithful to his wife and children a man that would betray his family is not a great man.
tabithaedwards7 2 years ago
why is she a bitch?? if the tables were turned and he killed her and then himself, you wouldn't call him names, would you. both are wrong, but don't be a sexist pig about it. it's not like he was an honorable married man, he was a creeper. you leave yourself open to tragedy when you play with people's emotions like that. everyone has their breaking point. again, you wouldn't name call on mcnair, so lay off kazemi.
erzebetb 2 years ago
"if the tables were turned and he killed her and then himself, you wouldn't call him names, would you"
Ridiculous statement by you, to be kind.
OF COURRRRRRRSE he would have slammed him had HE been the murderer!
Are you stupid? or what?
talismansoul 2 years ago
talisman- more juvenile name calling, aren't you too old for that? and cut the condescending tone with me, i'm not your wife.
erzebetb 2 years ago
@erzebetb
LOL
YOU accused Cenk of a double standard which never occurred. You ASSUMED (which tells where YOU are coming from) that had McNair shot the girl, instead of the other way around, that CENK would NOT have condemned McNair.
That is an unfair assumption, and I believe you are wrong.
Note that I asked you if you were stupid, I didn't tell you that you were.
That you ASSUMED I did IS revealing.
"Condescending"? To take exception to a biased remark is condescending?
LOL
talismansoul 2 years ago
while i do not condone this man's death, i do think it is quite clear that women aren't going to put up with a dog;s behavior. mcnair was a creeping dog, regardless of whatever else he was, and girlfriend got fed up. men feel so entitled to cheat, and women are tired of it. he has a wife, the girlfriend who shot him, and he may have been seeing another? how much did he care about his kids to do that? he only cared about himself, and look where it got him. it's sad.
erzebetb 2 years ago
It seems you are completely ignoring that the woman was 20 years old and knew McNair was a married man (GOLD DIGGER?). So for you, she was justified and he was a "creeping dog".
Hey, he's dead. He paid the ultimate price and his family will have to endure the shame.
But she was a murderous sack of shit.
Which sin is the worse, the adultery they both had in common, or the murder she alone perpetrated?
talismansoul 2 years ago
In the end she was a muderer and the good lord will have final judgement on that! Their problems are not of this plane anymore!
R.I P. Steve
nagone11 2 years ago
Amen. I just gave you the thumbs up.
R.I.P. ditto
talismansoul 2 years ago
There is no God.....
mugballeri3 2 years ago
I've heard it said: "In a fox hole and bombs are falling there are no atheists" I guess it depends on where you are and what's truly going on at that time to determine that my friend! You know what i'm sayin' ?
nagone11 2 years ago
I've also heard that when parents give birth to a child with a life threatening disability they become atheists. I think it is pathetic that people turn to God when they are in chaotic situations. It only shows that we created God for comfort. Why do you think Native Americans already had their own deity when Europeans invaded the New World? It is because it is human nature to make up higher powers to clean up what we don't understand and give us a sense of purpose or comfort. Be real man....
mugballeri3 2 years ago
Mugballeri,
I have never heard that, i have heard many pray to god to see the child through. Son I'm about as real as they come, and my faith in god is as about as real as i think god is. Speak not to me about the lack of god, because i have prayed many times and the lord has always aswered me. As you said what 'we don't understand', i say speak for yourself.
nagone11 2 years ago
Look buddy. I am sorry to break it to you, but God is just like Santa Claus. You believed Santa Claus for such a long time until your parents broke it to you. Children have impressionable minds. I don't know what religion you follow, but just imagine if you were born in a different country....you would have a different faith. It is a mere accident of birth. Also, religion has always been used to justify what we don't understand likethe origin of the earth. Apollo was the sun before. It is BS!
mugballeri3 2 years ago
Look Buudy, who the fuck are U to tell me anything about god???? I'm a grown ass man and have a critical mind to see what i think is the truth, just like you boy! Religion has been with man since the dawn of his age, what does that tell you? It tells me that man has a natural sense of god, he may call it by many different names but the concept and understanding is the same. God is natural to man. Because you choose to live without it, fine but get that shit outta' my face son! Good bye!
nagone11 2 years ago
Obviously you don't have a critical mind if you can't see that we made up God. It is natural for humans to come up with a God but that doesn't do any bearing on the truth of it. Tell me...which religion do you follow? Do you believe that everyone else but the people that follow your religion will be saved? Do you actually think a merciful God would punish those with skeptical mindsets who are good people and reward conformists who do bad deeds? Tell me which religion you follow grown ass "man."
mugballeri3 2 years ago
talisman- you so obviously didn't read my post. when you do, and can discuss what i really have said, we'll talk.
erzebetb 2 years ago
I was more sad to hear of the death of McNair, then lame ass MJ.
OffTheElitists 2 years ago
Cenk's ex-republican hypocritical views are showing through more and more lately.
stratelite 2 years ago
I say it's better to pay for play than this crazy shit. Having a mistress is just too dangerous, especially with one of these near teeny boppers he was having an affair with. It's clear that she was not willing to let anyone else have him. Pscyo-babe all the way. McNair was a tough guy, but looks like this little gal might have been tougher. What a shame and tragedy for all. I say "stick with the wife, she'll kill you too, but much much slower" !
nagone11 2 years ago
"I say "stick with the wife, she'll kill you too, but much much slower" ! "
In deed. You ain't never lied.
ThatguyNice 2 years ago
I meant Kazemi still she bought the gun and kept it hidden and waited for the perfect chance to kill him. So when McNair took a nap on the couch she killed him and then herself. I mean it doesn't take an idiot to figure it out that if she couldn't have him and didn't want to go back to her old lifestyle then no one could have him.
redmustang03 2 years ago
It was murder suicide. I mean once they reported that the gun was next to her and had a gun shot to the head any reasonable person could figure it out. Still, police always have to take every other possibility into account. Still, the real truth will never be revealed but I bet you anything and I think all would agree on this theory. Steve was talking about ending the relationship with Kazumi because Steve didn't want to leave his boys. Kazumi then snapped bought a gun the two days before.
redmustang03 2 years ago
hippocrite much
bigfanowarriors 2 years ago
Cenk you are a fucking HYPOCRITE. I swear to god if I see you in California I am going hock and scrock and spit right in your fucking mouth.
Now I can't stand you. You have no credibility whatsoever. You're a failed jock who has become sensationalist mouth piece on the damned internet.
I'll pardon you if you soak your head in dick oil and go out back and flog yourself 1000 times.
What a straight up ass munchin, cock gobblin, taint ticklin prick you are.
You make me seethe.
Growl.
Babylonthegreat 2 years ago
What's the double-standard here, Cenk?
You're piling on Sanford for having an affair but McNair is a "great guy"?
You're totally willing to dump Sanford's career in the bin, but McNair gets a "pardon"?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not excusing Sanford OR McNair, but I wish you'd show some consistency in your views.
What if Sanford's Argentinian mistress had shot him? Would you be talking about what a great guy he was? I don't think so.
pudgimelon 2 years ago
Yes. Exactly. It's both Sanford and Michael Jackson. While discussing Mcnair there are both elements of untimely death, scarred legacy and infidelity. Elements that apply to both Jackson and Sanford.
Two people he obviously had personal issues with. Somehow that makes them prime targets for endless slander and Steve Mcnair is a saint who he refuses to acknowledge with the same malicious scrutiny he reserves for those he OBVIOUSLY doesn't like.
Cenk is a fucking hypocrite. Plain and simple.
Babylonthegreat 2 years ago
Sanford had come out against Clinton calling on family values and all of that. Then he gets caught fuckin' some babe in South Am? McNair was a QB in the NFL, he was no Governor running on a conservative platform and extolling the virtues of family values as part of his platform. That's why Sanford looks so bad and why CENK went after him. SANFORD is a HYPOCRITE not Cenk.
nagone11 2 years ago
So... infidelity is ok as long as you didn't turn as anti-infidelity stance into a talking point during your career?
And I don't know how far the concept of values have slipped in this world, but I do know that whether you're a politician or a football player, when you're married with children the very existence of that union "extolls" family values til you break it.
Both men cheated on their wives and Cenk has a problem with one and not with the other because of his personal bullshit bias.
Babylonthegreat 2 years ago
Babylon,
You do make a valid point, and i will not disagree with what you say in totality, but when one takes up a public stance then shits on it, it does draw out the arrows, would'nt you agree? And comming from the Hypocritical repugs just adds gas to the flame! One last thing, McNair lost his life........Sanford just got censured. That's how i see it.
nagone11 2 years ago
You're right Sanford did put himself in he spotlight because of his empty rhetoric. No doubt. But underneath who said what, they both practiced the same kind of deceit. On the other hand, McNair lost his life, but so did Michael Jackson and Cenk has said some of the most vile shit about him from the day that he died until this very day. He picks sides based on his bias. Sanford cheats, McNair cheats he chooses McNair. Jackson dies, McNair dies, he chooses McNair and justifies it through bias.
Babylonthegreat 2 years ago
He was dumping on Sanford for being a hipocrite and wanting to Impeach Clinton when he was in office for his affair when he himself has had an affair too, then Sanford started to say that he was in love with his mistress.
McNair had his affair but he didn't go off like Sanford. All in all McNair shouldn't have been killed and I'm sure Cenk would've said the same thing if Sanford was killed over an affair.
roberto20 2 years ago
Pudge
"double-standard"? Not at all. Cenk "piled on Sanford" for being an outspoken pillar of righteousness and morality. Sanford is a true hypocrite, "do as I say, not as I do".
McNair made a sinful error, and paid the ultimate price. He was NOT however, a hypocrite like Sanford! McNair was actually a very likable fellow, and did not push his morality on others very much unlike Sanford.
You are way off-base.
talismansoul 2 years ago
I agree with you. Sanford was a self-righteous hypocrite & deserved to get piled on
However, watch Cenk's Sanford videos & listen to Cenk talk about adultery. Not hypocritical adultery, just plain old hanky-panky
Cenk did NOT give Sanford a pass on THAT but he did give one to McNair. Wrong is wrong & getting shot doesn't excuse doing something shitty
Think of it this way: McNair's actions led to his kids growing up without a father, please tell me how that makes him a "great guy"?
pudgimelon 2 years ago
Well, we come closer to the middle now.
I completely condemn adultery no matter who it is.
But as you admitted that Sanford was a self-righteous hypocrite, that's what made him an ahole in my book.
McNair donated money to charities, was well-liked and was a very good person in many ways. His undoing was that he committed an unfortunately common human transgression, and "it" back-fired in a big way. It's a sad commentary on society, and I feel sad for McNair and especially his family.
talismansoul 2 years ago
Nobody has said that McNair is a saint for what he has done. It has cost him his life in the end. I say have some respect for the dead, he did'nt deserve to die over some ass, but unfortunately some of us do. The fact does remain that Being PIOUS and lambasting another person for what he in the end was just as guilty for is reprehensible IMO. McNair just dosen't come under that banner. He was a QB, Sanford was a public servant taking up the PUBLIC TRUST! Much much different i fear!
nagone11 2 years ago
I'm not talking about Sanford's hypocrisy. He deserves tons of scorn for that
I'm talking about the adultery & Cenk's acceptance of it based on how much he likes the guy
In Sanford video, Cenk goes on & on about how TERRIBLE Sanford is for sneaking out to his mistress when he's got a wife & four kids back home
But in this McNair video, Cenk says "It's wrong but I think we can give him a pardon because we're all human"
How can Cenk slam Sanford for hypocrisy when he's doing the same thing?
pudgimelon 2 years ago
Yeah, but his dumb ass is still dead because he cheated on his wife! Is this fact escaping everyone?! Who gives a shit whether or not a "sinful error was made" ( I don't even know what the fuck that means, sins are bad right?) or you spent time in the public eye touting "family values". Both of these jackasses cheated on their wives. one's career is in the toilet and the other is dead. They both liked extracurricular ass and they are both paying for it.
Babylonthegreat 2 years ago
Babylon,
Have you ever heard the term " To Err is Human" ? Human beings will fuck up at times, it's ugly, but it's just how it is. You are certainly not perfect and i pray that you never make such a mistake in your life. These men did, but it does come down to how you fail not that you failed. Sanford failed in a very sheepish and disgusting way. McNair failed in a very surprising and terrible way. People are prolly gonna' feel more for McNair than Sanford. There is compassion for the dead.
nagone11 2 years ago
Steve McNair didn't walk out of his house and accidentally get hit by a car crossing the street. He was having an illicit affair, with a mistress, whom he was co-owner of her motor vehicle. Things went wrong and he died.
If I see a wallet fall from someone's pocket and take it or if I knock them in the head and take it, I'm still a thief.
Neither one of these individuals "failed" doing the right thing. Success can be measured in a multitude of ways. Failure can only be measured in one.
Babylonthegreat 2 years ago
Damn Cenk! Tearin' that bitch up at the end.
PISTOLcm 2 years ago
Don't be a Captain Save a Hoe.
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