No kidding! Really? Did you put that together all by yourself, or did you need a slide rule? You see, movies generate what are known as discussions. Try it sometime. It will make you seem less antisocial.
Katrine Boorman is a very beautiful actress that works in France. She is not average. Her looks are immaterial. Her father filming a rape scene with her barely out of her teens is whacked.
where can i get this soundtrack? my son has a project for band & this is his favorite movie - we watched the credits @ the end of the movie but it didn't list all songs/music played - thanx!
Written history is not always accurate. History is written by the victors and typically masculine oreinted. The Arthurian Legends are just that, legends and fall into some of the realms of Mythos. The period of Arthur has been speculated through out the years and will continue to be so. As no true evidence has been "proven".
Also Ancient Celts did dance, it was a celebration of life during Belthane, and and other times of life, it was a practice to cloistering women from men.
High born Celtic women did NOT dance like that for visiting guests; especially not the lady of the manor. If this was Igraine, of course she was raped.
According the compilations of the "Early Welsh Genealogical Tracts" of Peter Bartrum, Eigr (Igraine) was the daughter of Amlawdd Wledig, who was a great-great-great-grandson of Cynan Meriadoc (progenitor of the Dukes of Brittany, leader of the British auxiliaries in Magnus Maximus Clemens's failed attempt to become Western Roman Emperor in 388)
For this point in history, I can't think of a single culture in which royal or even noble women danced, except for certain religious rites and even then, only in the company of intimate female friends.
Dancing in larger, mixed-gender groups was for low-class women (folk dances) and slaves (entertainments of the type we see here).
Well, you're the one who first pointed it out - it might not have occurred to me to question it.
I haven't read the original legends (though I have read parts of Le Morte d'Arthur). Do you know if Igraine dances in any of the early writings? Because if she does, it could be pertinent to the point of the story: Gorlois was grossly trampling upon sexual propriety so he, his progeny & England paid the ultimate price.
Kind of like Paris's abduction of Helen leading to the destruction of all Troy.
That's an apt comparison with Troy. No record of Igraine dancing in anything I've read of Arthurian literature, including Le Morte d'Arthur. I think you're seeing an example of artistic license here.
Wrong, it's very easily a fact in the royal courts to have a 'harem' of women for the kings pleasure and maybe his favourites.
King Henry I was famous for his harem of mistresses along with King John, you can't seriously say he didn't have them dancing to the minstrels beat can you?
@WatchRyder, There's no need to get snippy. If you have a point, please just make it like a grown up.
I am very well aware of the tradition of royal mistresses in Western Europe. I would not agree that the word "harem" exactly applies, though I understand what you're getting at.
I believe the Aurthur legends are set in a time & place that predate minstrels and courtly dance, which came later. If you have a primary source refuting this belief, I'd be interested to correct my view.
@WatchRyder, BTW, Henry I (I presume you mean of England) was a Norman king who reigned in the 12th century. Arthur Pendragon was a Celt reigning in the 6th, little more than 100 years after the fall of Rome. The Saxons hadn't even taken England yet. You're not talking about the same culture or time period at all.
So again, please cite a credible (primary is best) source.
I'm not even intending to refer to the same culture, you have to understand that the Normans were norseman anyway and very similar in culture to the Celts.
Hence it should not be a surprise that a similar trend of women for the rulers pleasure but dancing etc did not continue onwards
@WatchRyder - I presume you have no source, since I asked you twice and you provided none.
And without a source, I'm afraid I'm not convinced. Britain under Rome was not much like the culture of the Normans. And the Celts themselves aren't exactly the closest of cousins.
I totally agree that prior to the Norman times it was different, but what I'm saying is that the Celtic peoples left behind when the Normans came along mingled with the new-comers.
There was about half a million people living in England when about 10,000 Normans arrived in 1066, that's more than easy for a native population to stand without being too diluted. Even with the Saxon people prior to the Normans.
So the Celtic way will of been there also, mostly in the West Country
Silly woman, otta have more sense. Go out in a dress like that & not wear a slip. Really though I don't think women back then actually danced like that. Not Baronial class broads anyway.
Igraine is a sexy woman. Uther had no chance. In fact he spilled his load into his rusty armor as she danced. Pity his squire who had to clean it out.
dude, it's part of the medieval hazing process. want to be a knight? start off as a squire cleaning out your master's spooge from the insides of his armor. lol. just think, mate. back then. if u were a remotely good looking guy and some mean fella couldn't get laid by a chick. Well....... you would get introduced to Excalibur in a whole new way. Where's proposition 8 when u need it?
My kingdom for a can openere, heh-- Igrayne is played by Katrine Boorman, who's a cute girl , but not a trained dancer.Still, ballet classes musta been hard to come by in them days. She hoochies it up pretty good, I reckon. I agree, the nude scene must have called for a lot of father/daughter trust.
The director of this movie was eager to have a sex scene. He was going to make a movie version of Lord of The Rings, but have a scene where Frodo and gladrial have sex. But instead, he disided to make a movie about King Arthur.
I can't believe that Katrine Boorman is John Boorman's daughter because I think it's awkward, embarassing, and even morbid to think that a father directs an actor to "suck" his daughter's breast and then lie spread out fully nude in a simulated sex scene.
Oh, I have no problem with that, haha. He doesn't take off the armor because he's completely overwhelmed by her, and the armor only adds to the raw, animalistic masculinity and sexuality. I want him on top of ME taking me any way he pleases after seeing this scene.
I'm not really sure either, but maybe in that time facial expressions were everything like how certain clothing represents a particular action if you catch my drift. So because Uthor took a fancy the Duke* totally took offense, heck if I know, but I think the Duke* had Igrayne dance to spark that fancy in his wife so there would be continued war and Uthor would possibly be killed in the process.
Eh, or it could just be the dancing style similar to what you see at Renaissance Faires...
I think it has to do with the time, its the medieval period, and women were property back then. I believe she gasped for air and bowed because she knew her "lord" was upset, so she submitted herself accordingly. This movie is an awesome depiction of what it was like back then, although EXTREMELY graphic.
I wanna fuck, right now! where´s my girfriend!!! this is one of the greatest movies on medieval stuff, 5 stars for posting this video, great movie, btw. I think Lancelot is a tosser. Arthur should have grabbed all the women and have a massive orgie!!! The queen will present hereself in due time lol! Great movie, one of the best :)
One of my favorite movies too, and did you know that Katrine Boorman was the director's daughter? Must have been strange for her father to film her intense sex scene which comes right after this dance scene. If you haven't seen Excalibur you must!
I didn't know that, I had always assumed she must be John Boorman's wife or sister or something. But his daughter? Yeah, that is a bit weird, it must have been even more awkward for Gabriel Byrne. I think it demonstrates just how committed Boorman is to his craft.
Too bad Arthur ended up being a rapechild.
Still, you have to respect how, in spite of the rape and illusions, that Uther impregnates his wenches without removing his platemail. Like a boss.
tyciol 4 months ago
what's wrong with the sound?
mwells219 9 months ago
back when men fought for important things like pussy, not like today where people fight for oil or god.
mwells219 9 months ago 4
kinda sucks this is the only video on youtube...that sound in the beginning is terrible!!!
sparktank 1 year ago
cant hear sound great movie tho
Keltlady 1 year ago
No kidding! Really? Did you put that together all by yourself, or did you need a slide rule? You see, movies generate what are known as discussions. Try it sometime. It will make you seem less antisocial.
elrond70 1 year ago
Its a film -guys not real!!lol
TowedHaulProductions 1 year ago
Katrine Boorman is a very beautiful actress that works in France. She is not average. Her looks are immaterial. Her father filming a rape scene with her barely out of her teens is whacked.
elrond70 1 year ago
@elrond70
That's dedicated and brave acting for you.
I hate to say this, but it adds to the movie and sets Uther up for his demise later...
WatchRyder 1 year ago
How could John Boorman film his own daughter being raped? Gabriel Bryne got horny every time the director yelled "Cut! Okay, do it again! Action!"
elrond70 1 year ago
@elrond70 How could Uther fall for the director's average looking daughter?
JuanMacready 1 year ago
The music is wickety wack. Can you fix it? No sound at all. Save the clip!
QPAOIU 1 year ago
can anyone please tell me the title of the song used in this scene?
AlexKatiee 1 year ago
Igrayne's Dance. It is part of the Excalibur soundtrack.
stinky472 1 year ago
@stinky472
where can i get this soundtrack? my son has a project for band & this is his favorite movie - we watched the credits @ the end of the movie but it didn't list all songs/music played - thanx!
AlexKatiee 1 year ago
Does anyone have Igrayne's " love " scene?... where Uether bones her... you know.
FMAStudent 1 year ago
that's a pity :-(
I can't hear the music...
serotine9 2 years ago
Written history is not always accurate. History is written by the victors and typically masculine oreinted. The Arthurian Legends are just that, legends and fall into some of the realms of Mythos. The period of Arthur has been speculated through out the years and will continue to be so. As no true evidence has been "proven".
Also Ancient Celts did dance, it was a celebration of life during Belthane, and and other times of life, it was a practice to cloistering women from men.
LilyofAscholate 2 years ago
correction: it was NOT a practice to cloister the women from the men. Please accept my apology for that typo
LilyofAscholate 2 years ago
@LilyofAscholate Arthurian Age is consider to be Sub Roman Britain.
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
Yeah..., there's no sound for me.
I mean, Igraine's hot and all, but I'm kinda here for the music, so...
drakudhfg 2 years ago
no this is morganne , stupid
katycoyote 2 years ago
The one dancing is Morgana's and (the future) Arthur's mother, Igraine.
baraxor 2 years ago
High born Celtic women did NOT dance like that for visiting guests; especially not the lady of the manor. If this was Igraine, of course she was raped.
bookkeeper57 2 years ago
Legend has it Igraine was not high born, nor was she from Britianna. Legend says she came from across the waters veiled in mystery and mists.
LilyofAscholate 2 years ago
According the compilations of the "Early Welsh Genealogical Tracts" of Peter Bartrum, Eigr (Igraine) was the daughter of Amlawdd Wledig, who was a great-great-great-grandson of Cynan Meriadoc (progenitor of the Dukes of Brittany, leader of the British auxiliaries in Magnus Maximus Clemens's failed attempt to become Western Roman Emperor in 388)
baraxor 2 years ago
For this point in history, I can't think of a single culture in which royal or even noble women danced, except for certain religious rites and even then, only in the company of intimate female friends.
Dancing in larger, mixed-gender groups was for low-class women (folk dances) and slaves (entertainments of the type we see here).
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
Thanks EyeLean5280 for pointing that out.
What I wanted to say, but much better expressed.
bookkeeper57 2 years ago
Well, you're the one who first pointed it out - it might not have occurred to me to question it.
I haven't read the original legends (though I have read parts of Le Morte d'Arthur). Do you know if Igraine dances in any of the early writings? Because if she does, it could be pertinent to the point of the story: Gorlois was grossly trampling upon sexual propriety so he, his progeny & England paid the ultimate price.
Kind of like Paris's abduction of Helen leading to the destruction of all Troy.
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
That's an apt comparison with Troy. No record of Igraine dancing in anything I've read of Arthurian literature, including Le Morte d'Arthur. I think you're seeing an example of artistic license here.
bookkeeper57 2 years ago
Ah, yes. Hollywood and its "artistic license."
EyeLean5280 2 years ago
@EyeLean5280
Wrong, it's very easily a fact in the royal courts to have a 'harem' of women for the kings pleasure and maybe his favourites.
King Henry I was famous for his harem of mistresses along with King John, you can't seriously say he didn't have them dancing to the minstrels beat can you?
WatchRyder 1 year ago
@WatchRyder, There's no need to get snippy. If you have a point, please just make it like a grown up.
I am very well aware of the tradition of royal mistresses in Western Europe. I would not agree that the word "harem" exactly applies, though I understand what you're getting at.
I believe the Aurthur legends are set in a time & place that predate minstrels and courtly dance, which came later. If you have a primary source refuting this belief, I'd be interested to correct my view.
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
@WatchRyder, BTW, Henry I (I presume you mean of England) was a Norman king who reigned in the 12th century. Arthur Pendragon was a Celt reigning in the 6th, little more than 100 years after the fall of Rome. The Saxons hadn't even taken England yet. You're not talking about the same culture or time period at all.
So again, please cite a credible (primary is best) source.
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
@EyeLean5280
I'm not even intending to refer to the same culture, you have to understand that the Normans were norseman anyway and very similar in culture to the Celts.
Hence it should not be a surprise that a similar trend of women for the rulers pleasure but dancing etc did not continue onwards
WatchRyder 1 year ago
@WatchRyder - I presume you have no source, since I asked you twice and you provided none.
And without a source, I'm afraid I'm not convinced. Britain under Rome was not much like the culture of the Normans. And the Celts themselves aren't exactly the closest of cousins.
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
@EyeLean5280
I totally agree that prior to the Norman times it was different, but what I'm saying is that the Celtic peoples left behind when the Normans came along mingled with the new-comers.
There was about half a million people living in England when about 10,000 Normans arrived in 1066, that's more than easy for a native population to stand without being too diluted. Even with the Saxon people prior to the Normans.
So the Celtic way will of been there also, mostly in the West Country
WatchRyder 1 year ago
No music?
an147 2 years ago
The kid that played Morgana's young son was Boorman's son.
escapefromobamastan 2 years ago
can you believe thats the directors daughter.
t5y665yrty56 2 years ago
The hottest dance of the year 471!
baraxor 2 years ago
Oh man, did they delete the music to this?
mrsparkle001 2 years ago
What happened to the Music?Could not hear it
3piper 2 years ago
it s true...
lineth67 2 years ago
Superb sequence. I soooo wanted this music on CD but never released
linebackertwo 2 years ago
Katrine Boorman is soo hot !
mclarenf45 2 years ago
Silly woman, otta have more sense. Go out in a dress like that & not wear a slip. Really though I don't think women back then actually danced like that. Not Baronial class broads anyway.
VictorLepanto 2 years ago
is that the directors daughter and i thought dario argento was rough
t5y665yrty56 2 years ago 10
Yes, it is the director's daughter.
Apophisguard 2 years ago
Are you made the Alliance
SSCxLGTxMTz 3 years ago
I MUST HAVE HER!
LOL
yea the Alliance was my favorite part!
kaserock 2 years ago 2
The Medieval Baebes did an excellent version of this, called - " Igrayne's Dance " . Worth looking up - also a lot of their stuff is great.
Nemetos 3 years ago
I bet the cover is worth listening to. This is a nice piece of music. Which cd of medieval babes is it on?
DonVicente67 2 years ago
I love this song!
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago 2
Igraine is a sexy woman. Uther had no chance. In fact he spilled his load into his rusty armor as she danced. Pity his squire who had to clean it out.
hollywoodwerewolf 3 years ago
omg !! lol.
dude, it's part of the medieval hazing process. want to be a knight? start off as a squire cleaning out your master's spooge from the insides of his armor. lol. just think, mate. back then. if u were a remotely good looking guy and some mean fella couldn't get laid by a chick. Well....... you would get introduced to Excalibur in a whole new way. Where's proposition 8 when u need it?
FMAStudent 3 years ago
I quess somethings never change
catbird007 3 years ago
Come, Igrayne! LOL
straywolf77 3 years ago
My kingdom for a can openere, heh-- Igrayne is played by Katrine Boorman, who's a cute girl , but not a trained dancer.Still, ballet classes musta been hard to come by in them days. She hoochies it up pretty good, I reckon. I agree, the nude scene must have called for a lot of father/daughter trust.
cosmicdingo 3 years ago
i's male Lion , to Hell with "alliance" , She's Hot Beautiful Delicious Sweet Yum YUMMY
jenniferbabe 3 years ago
amazinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Venuux 3 years ago
This scene is wonderful!!!
Colombiana333 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
she sucks at dancing..
purely my opinion..
The style's fine but I think she's akward and uncomfortable..
AnnAlinn 3 years ago
The director of this movie was eager to have a sex scene. He was going to make a movie version of Lord of The Rings, but have a scene where Frodo and gladrial have sex. But instead, he disided to make a movie about King Arthur.
Camalot777 3 years ago
Topanga day's, hippie goddess.
Eidelmania 3 years ago
I can't believe that Katrine Boorman is John Boorman's daughter because I think it's awkward, embarassing, and even morbid to think that a father directs an actor to "suck" his daughter's breast and then lie spread out fully nude in a simulated sex scene.
Just my opinion.
Metatron300 3 years ago
sounds pretty hawt to me
Sclorched 3 years ago
Only qualm I have about that scene is how Uther's actor is still fully clad in armor while making love.
MediStalgia 3 years ago
Oh, I have no problem with that, haha. He doesn't take off the armor because he's completely overwhelmed by her, and the armor only adds to the raw, animalistic masculinity and sexuality. I want him on top of ME taking me any way he pleases after seeing this scene.
TheNilesEdge 3 years ago 6
@TheNilesEdge I hope you're a man because what woman would take scalding hot metal plates of heavy armour by a roaring fireplace? Madness!
jrmetmoi 2 months ago
@jrmetmoi LOL wow, that's an old comment! And I still use the sex scene as fap material. :D
TheNilesEdge 2 months ago
She is his daughter, check imdb. I agree, this must have been a bit ... embarassing.
kocsogarc 3 years ago
Why? Sex is a natural thing.
AnnaHeidiBourne 3 years ago
Is that scene to be found on youtube?
kocsogarc 3 years ago
Are You Mad!!!!!"The Aliance!"
1:23 Now That's your right hand Knight!
my favorite part....watch this movie too many times!
kaserock 3 years ago 2
great scene, but I don't get the end when she gasps for air and then falls down or whatever... ???
sweetprism00 3 years ago
I'm not really sure either, but maybe in that time facial expressions were everything like how certain clothing represents a particular action if you catch my drift. So because Uthor took a fancy the Duke* totally took offense, heck if I know, but I think the Duke* had Igrayne dance to spark that fancy in his wife so there would be continued war and Uthor would possibly be killed in the process.
Eh, or it could just be the dancing style similar to what you see at Renaissance Faires...
elliottwaxer 3 years ago
hey...you could be onto something... that makes a lot of sense :-) It may be she was exhausted from swishing her head around metallica style.
sweetprism00 3 years ago
I think it has to do with the time, its the medieval period, and women were property back then. I believe she gasped for air and bowed because she knew her "lord" was upset, so she submitted herself accordingly. This movie is an awesome depiction of what it was like back then, although EXTREMELY graphic.
p3rdyp1nkr0ses 3 years ago 2
Too true, excellent actors, legitimate mythological story, a true masterpiece in filmography.
elliottwaxer 3 years ago 4
You'll understand when you're a little older LOL
Cosmoline 3 years ago
@sweetprism00
Exhaustion and ecxtasy from the dancing.
I've seen this when I was in Asia at a staged dance show.
The two girl dancers got totally carried into 'another place' and became like two love-sirens really going at it (clothed and simulating).
WatchRyder 1 year ago
O, sorry, i saw it was Katrine Boorman.
sophiamirrenfan 3 years ago
Is this Helen Mirren dancing?
sophiamirrenfan 3 years ago
When you gotta have something(one)...
You just gotta have it.
Between primal instinct and civil duty...
Instinct wins. ALWAYS! }:^}
asUtoob 4 years ago
I wanna fuck, right now! where´s my girfriend!!! this is one of the greatest movies on medieval stuff, 5 stars for posting this video, great movie, btw. I think Lancelot is a tosser. Arthur should have grabbed all the women and have a massive orgie!!! The queen will present hereself in due time lol! Great movie, one of the best :)
sapphire2200 4 years ago 5
Lovely scene. Powerfull erotic. :)
AnnaHeidiBourne 4 years ago
what a classic, unbelievable movie, 5 stars for this great scene
sapphire2200 4 years ago
Man, everyone wants to bang her....
...table.
LDD86 4 years ago 23
lol
Kennashi 4 years ago
@LDD86 thats right hehe
p0werc0rdz 7 months ago
One of my favourite movies too, this scene drives me crazy, love it, so intense with the amazing music by great Trevor Jones.
ClaraDarko 4 years ago
You cut off the spitting at the end :)
castlezania 4 years ago
I love this song!
pillcounter75 4 years ago 2
It's out on a CD
AnnaHeidiBourne 4 years ago
Great clip! :)
igrayne01 4 years ago
One of my favorite movies too, and did you know that Katrine Boorman was the director's daughter? Must have been strange for her father to film her intense sex scene which comes right after this dance scene. If you haven't seen Excalibur you must!
applegatemonsoon 4 years ago
I didn't know that, I had always assumed she must be John Boorman's wife or sister or something. But his daughter? Yeah, that is a bit weird, it must have been even more awkward for Gabriel Byrne. I think it demonstrates just how committed Boorman is to his craft.
Ashworth6 4 years ago
His daughther was also raped in this movie.
AnnaHeidiBourne 3 years ago
she was? When? You mean by Uther?
sweetprism00 3 years ago
Yeah.
AnnaHeidiBourne 3 years ago