Riz Khan - David Davis - 23 Jan 08

[deadrebel2]

Davis is a New World Order scumbag

[vincentbluegrey]

The UK follows the Us like a lost puppy.

[suprabuddha]

so the fact that your people are being occupied justifies strapping explosive vests on 14 year olds and using them as HUMAN BOMBS???? my native "nigger" wit says there has got to be a better way you islamic fanatics are just too stupid to find it!!!!

[suprabuddha]

why don't you take your condescending attitude and your inane history lectures to GAZA??? intstead of wasting your time trying to convince me to submit to TERRORISTS get off your sorry arse and go and join them muslim swine!!!!

[shm984]

'why don't you take your condescending attitude and your inane history lectures to GAZA??? intstead of wasting your time trying to convince me to submit to TERRORISTS get off your sorry arse and go and join them muslim swine!!!!' - because they don;t need lectures, they are the ones experiencing history head-on - as victims of international zionist oppressors - i do know a lot more about international affairs than you - given you're a yank -thats inevitable in many ways

[suprabuddha]

your just some prissy boy fresh out college spouting leftist garbage. let me give you a heads up son. Theese Islamic swine murdered american citizens and they are going to pay no matter what justification you give this nation will hunt them down and end this madness!!

[shm984]

'your just some prissy boy fresh out college spouting leftist garbage. let me give you a heads up son.' - i'm actually a legal human rights advocate/lawyer! i should carefully watch what comes out of that mouth of yours! you really are making a total fool of yourself!

[suprabuddha]

"I'm a human rights advocate" KILL THE ZIONISTS oh the sweet irony!!!! never mind you islamics just don't get it.

[shm984]

. .btw, thankx for posting all this...i've just finished copying all your messages onto my internal system at work. . for me and my colleagues to laugh at! i'll also use your responses as part of a legal project that would be most useful - concerning the attitude and perception of human rights abuses taking place. ENOUGH! GO TO SCHOOL!

[suprabuddha]

human rights lawyer???!!!! ROFLMAO your a TERRORIST sympathizer subverting the legal system of a democracy that keeps embracing trash like you!!!!

[shm984]

'ROFLMAO'??? meaning??? -i can tell you're obviously a working class, thoroughly illiterate individual (family inspired of course). my friend, the word 'TERRORIST' is a western inspired word - you can apply that meaning to anything you think deserves the label - the real 'terrorist' if any are principally successive US government's - overthrowing democratic governments and installing tyrants - and you complain when oppressed ppl's living under their rule rise up and resist?

[shm984]

many individual member of past US administratons (as well as the present), have given orders to kill, maim and subvert international law for their own neo-colonial purposes! why are you so blind to the truth - its starring at you in the face? true indoctrination mate! you're obviously confused beyond belief. .

[suprabuddha]

you can spout leftist bullshit til your head implodes The UNITED STATES will continue to hunt down terrorists and assist any other country that wants to defend its citizens.

[shm984]

'your a TERRORIST sympathizer' - this is coming from an american neo-con hawk? give me a break!!! i can tell that prior to '9/11' you had absolutely no knowledge of the issues pertaining to international affairs - hence, your utter ignorance to whats going on? your attitude is akin to a total madman - i suggest you go into rehab - i was going to say 'prison' but given that they're filled with a disproportionate number of african-americans over there...that would be rather disingenuous

[shm984]

'subverting the legal system of a democracy' - it just gets better and better! as you would say ' bring it on' - i'm loving all this, the best argument i've had in years!!! i could go on and describe the shortcomings and flaws of the british legal and politcal system it supports. . .but you wouldn't even understand - we do have concerns over here with regard to the detention of 'terror' suspects over and above 28 days. .

[shm984]

. . .but unlike over there,in the UK we do observe by internatonal law and are committed to consolidating our proud record in recent years vis-a-vis the sanctity and value of human rights - its a real shame how the US has lost its way on the promotion of human rights - former 1st lady Eleanor Roosevelt must be spinning in her grave

[suprabuddha]

I'm sure Mrs Roosevelt is just fine despite the fact you and your ilk have turned london into a muslim bazaar.

[shm984]

i'm not even from london - i live in the north-west of england! duhhh!

altho you should come and visit london...its similar to new york...so it can't be that!

[suprabuddha]

listen your feeble insults and convoluted logic will not deter me for a second. I WILL DEFEND MY PEOPLE and anyone else prepared to make a stand against murderous islamic swine and their lackeys!!!

[dargay]

shut up you internet warrior.

[suprabuddha]

forgive the typos I'm sure you understand that typing is a neglected skill in the "wild west"ROFLMAO

[shm984]

one final point be4 i end - i actually puty you, given that you're an african-american - your ppl had to endure slavery, oppression, the KKK and racism with the jim crow laws of the deep south. .

[suprabuddha]

yes and as an african american I am proud to say that even when we resorted to violence WE DID NOT MURDER WOMEN AND CHILDREN unlike your swinish forbearers.

[shm984]

hahaha - malcolm x anbd the blsck power movement of the 1960s suddenly springs to mind - you're fighting a losing battle - just like the declining power of your terror-led nation

[suprabuddha]

Malcom X was a titan and he was able to fight and die for justice without murdering innocents or turning 14 year olds into human bombs!!!!!

[suprabuddha]

one minor point in the past I considered myself a supporter of palestian rights and was hopeful of a peaceful resolution but then 9/11 and I watched the "oppressed palestinians" dance in the streets as my countrymen died. needless to say my priorities changed you would do well to follow my example.

[shm984]

. . .over one single event? what happened on

'9/11' was terrible and i feel sorry for those who died and who lost loved ones. .but if that had occurred in any other country - the amount of coverage given to it would have been pure minimal! 2,000 + africans die each week - yet, when a random event like that occurs in the 'hyperpower' of the world, ppl respond differently - thats a much to do with racism as power. . .

[suprabuddha]

Do you seriously expect The United States goverment to abandon its reponsibility to defend its citizens to appease your feelings of inferiority???? please seek help from the nearest mental health professional.

[shm984]

. .as for your point of those palestinians dancing. .instead of reacting like a maniac. . have you ever considered using your brain. . why do you think they reacted in the way they did. . .because of the oppression they've endured for the last 60 years. . an attack on the US mainland against the single country backing the zionist entity vis-a-vis occupation and the thieving of land etc. . well...who can really blame them. . .in any case. .

[suprabuddha]

I blame them for supporting the islamic fanatics who murdered my countrymen and I will continue to support Israel and any other country that is willing to fight backwards and demonic savages who murder women and children!!!!!

[shm984]

who is 'them' exactly? =with regards to the killing of women and children, it is precisely the forces you support who are igniting all these crimes against humanity - the israelis and the americans have consistently violated the international laws of war by failing to distinguish between combatants and civilians -

[suprabuddha]

and you say I'm the one whos' been brainwashed??? The american military takes more effort to limit non-combatant causualties than any force in history. Unlike your terrorist boyfriends who simply want to kill as many people as possible to make the evening news!!!!

[shm984]

The american military takes more effort to limit non-combatant causualties than any force in history.' hahaha, you're too funny - i can't help but laugh at that!

[shm984]

. .how do work that one out? you're a lot dumber than i thought! in any case, it hasn't worked has it? perhaps you're successive oppressive governments ought to learn from one another and abide by the framework of international law, the geneve conventions vis-vis the treatment of detainees at your guantanamo bay concentration torture chamber (on cuban soil i might add!), abu grahib, me lai, the killing of innocent iraqis and afghans and the covert nod you're govt's give to the zionist entity

[suprabuddha]

whatever actions the US goverment takes to protect its citizens are none of your concern. Why don't you go to GAZA and help your people??? HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATE

[shm984]

hahaha - i'm a gay guy - thats me!!!

better to be gay than to be a nigger!

[suprabuddha]

fair enough human rights advocate!!!!

[shm984]

its that pathetic response that gives yanks in general a thoroughly bad name!!! americans are like monkeys (similar in trait to how african-americans were not too long ago) - living in neanderthal-like conditions with a similar mentality. .the mentality aspect certainly hasn't changed! Yo- mama! go back to school! not that you've been to one by the looks of things. . .

[suprabuddha]

did I make the HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATE reveal his true face?????

[shm984]

. .so many massacres committed in the past - whether in mei lai in vietnam, the spraying of agent orange on innocent civilians - who to this day endure birth defects in their new born. . - again, you seriuosly need an education - go on, be the first african-american to do so. . and goodbye!

[shm984]

. . .you were attached on '9/11' by the very forces you're government had aided and abetted....do you not know that? or r u just too ignorant to realise? - al-qaeda are a creation of the united states from your collaborative days in soviet occupied afghanistan during the 1980s - it was a case of backing 'my enemy's enemy from the standpoint of reagan et at

[suprabuddha]

The US goverment created al-qaeda??? be careful boy your prophet osama is going to issue a fatwa on your worthless life but then its all part of the struggle against the "zionist" oppressor right???

[shm984]

. . one other point. . .in the aftemath of the '9/11' incident - former palestinian leader yasser arafat actually gave blood (along with many other palestinians) in order to share his and his ppl's solidarity with you. .so what you mention doesn't stack up. .

[suprabuddha]

mr arafat gave blood??? Oh joy well that certainly makes up for aiding and abetting the murder of jewish children along with anyone else who didn't bow to "palestine". Not that any reposible offical would let a sand rats blood in the country anyway!!!!!

[shm984]

. . another country within the region. . iran. .with which you have issues. . they even organised a candle lit vigil in the '9/11' aftermath - the iranian govt even wished to cooperate with the americans - but back them, your country had the advantages vis-a-vis bringing together that international coalition - positions r reversed now. . oh well

[suprabuddha]

You allow your country to be over run by muslim swine then whine they reward you with crime and terror!!!!

[shm984]

....my friend...muslims have been living in the UK for decades (at least since the end of the second world war) - 60+ years, with many others arriving from abroad going centuries back - so that point doesn't stack up. as for 'terror' as you put it and crime, these occur all over the world...so long as you have laws...they will no doubt be violated by ppl in one sort or another.

[shm984]

...whilst 'terror' is never acceptable, the issue is not faith related...rather, its a matter of addressing ppl's anatagonism's vis-a-vis foriegn policy -thats not my personal view, altho in a democratic society, unless you actually realise the sensitivities surrounding certain issues, progress will never be made.

[suprabuddha]

do you realize theese islamic fanatics are trying to KILL us ???? The west is at WAR against theese people and everything they stand for !!! I'm not interested in debating the issue I want the terrorists DEAD

[shm984]

the 'west' - principally the united states have supported the most authoritarian regimes within the 'muslim world' since, at least 1945 - including the covert overthrow of the middle east's first popularly elected leader Mohammad Mossadegh in 1952/53 (codenamed operation ajax - and led by the Dulles brothers), john and allan foster (who at that time occupied the roles of secretary of state and chief of the cia respectively)..

[shm984]

..and installing a corrupt dictator by the name of shah reza mohammed pahlavi...i don't think you realise how ill-informed your responses seem - are you from texas or the american 'wild west'

[suprabuddha]

listen mr chamberlain do not presume to lecture me I dare say I'm bit more informed than you suspect. The point is that The values of an Islamic society are imcompatible with a modern democracy but then you brits can afford stupidity cause when your muslim "citizens" attempt to impose sharia upon your little island america will bail you clowns out again!!!!

[shm984]

not at all - ultimately it depends on what you mean by 'democracy' - which isn't even an american ideal nor invention. it originated from the ancient greeks (demos - power, and kratos - people = power to the ppl). in any case, its a bit rich lecturing on how islamic societies are incompatible with democracy, look at the united states. . .

[shm984]

. . . in 2000, the candidate with the most votes (al gore) actually lost the election, he didn't even get to become president, and not for the first time in your history (rutherford hayes in the 1880's is another!) - you call your perverse electoral college voting system 'democracy', a system where delegates determined the outcome, rather than the american citizen. . .

[shm984]

if us foriegn policy had not prioritised the suppression and oppression of ppl throughout the middle east...today's issues would never have arisen...'terrorists' is an ambigous word anyway...it can be applied to anyone - including the aggression of countries suc as the united states in her pursuit of natural resources...ppl rise up and have (legitimate) grievances for a reason...we're all human...

[shm984]

...if you were being oppressed...having to go through checkpoints...seeing your livelihood destroyed..your family killed in cold blood -- how would you react? in a peaceful manner, in the face of chaos? plz don't bring faith into this...even tho i'm an agnostic myself - again, as mentioned elsewhere...its purely an issue of 'western' foriegn policy...killing 'terrorists' will only increase the spiral of violence? do you not realise this?

[shm984]

- how would you react? in a peaceful manner, in the face of chaos? plz don't bring faith into this...even tho i'm an agnostic myself - again, as mentioned elsewhere...its purely an issue of foriegn policy...killing 'terrorists' will only increase the spiral of violence? do you not realise this?

[shm984]

. .you endured the burning of churches etc - condi rice herself was a lucky girl! and yet, you're ppl have also been brainwashed into believing anything and everything your governments say! now, that is a sign of total ignorance. .don't blame you tho - african-americans don't exactly have a high level of educational attainment - i'm thinking of harlem for instance - you'd be wise to support barack obama!

[HamedMAX]

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