Intel® SSD Gaming Demo

[TopGameForever]

1min OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Exgaves]

Oh no! a minute of my life gone when I want to chop and change constantly to different games!

I better buy a rediculously overpriced SSD to get that minute back

[madofmygoddess]

I've paid 200€ for a ocz vertex 2 120gb.. and srsly that's my best deal ever on a pc !

[NoobsAreUsh]

Two 7200RPM drives in raid 0, on a laptop? Good luck with your battery life bro

[SoloNifer]

I can't trust to Intel - facebook.com/Intel/posts/10150­350077066850

[DaGleese]

so if this video is correct (and im sure they have stretched the truth as far as they can)

then 3 games... usually only want to play one game at any one time....

and it saved like a minute.....

60 secs / 3 = 20 seconds

naturally you'll need a big ssd for all your games so we'll say around 500GB

so...

you will save 20 seconds of your time loading into games if you pay like $550 more for your hard disk.....

POPPYCOCK!

[rysliv]

ok srsly. portal doesnt open up into a game automatically... wheres that menu screen eh? looks like a video, but just delaying the hard drive one to make it look slower than the ssd.

[kerolification]

why not comparing it with a single 7200rpm hdd?

because most people dont know what raid is anyway,,,,,,

a single hdd would be slower and that would make it a nicer commercial (bigger difference)

[ATDOINFERNO]

Although I know how SSDs are fast (2x to 200x, in synthetics, and about 3x to 5x in RL usage), it would be better to compare a single SSD versus a RAID 0 of 2 or more 10k/15k RPM HDDs; that would seem less unfair, in my opinion, since 7200 RPM HDDs are very cheap nowadays.

I'm talking about a 3ms seek time or less (10k/15k RPM HDD) vs the average 9~12ms (more or less), of the so popular 7200 RPM HDDs...then, of course, any modern SSD would just kick their asses with 0.085ms...or less.

[DuckslayerCFC]

High performance gaming NOTEBOOKS.....really?

[MouthofSaurons]

1:25 "Intel SSD's are a gamers best friend"

rofl. Most games have streaming either way to make the games start up faster. A better video card matters much more.

[ninja987]

ooooooh 1 min -_- .. Not amused ...bring in the other one

[reviewpaintball911]

LOL segate 7200 RPM ... why donc use a 10k HDD or a black claviar sata 3 for the other use a gaming HDD not the first shit you see and put in the computer in raid 0

[seantal007]

lol you better compare some shit before you say seagate is shit.

my seagate barracuda 11 st310000528as (7200 rpm , 1 TB )

minimum transfer rate : 65.2 MB/s

max. trans. rate : 134.8 MB/s

avrg. trans. rate : 105.9 MB/s

acces time : 15.5 ms

and thats still one of the not so good seagtes ...

but im okay wirh you believing WD's ads by saying its a black edition uuh fast ... but ouuh its just medium shit and expensive . if you want speed get an ssd

[blueovalfan23]

@seantal007 i'm not saying wd is better but i can talk after having several seagates and a couple maxtors fail. i'm not certain as to the average or peak performance of the drives i have seen fail but i have a wd now and it blows the previous drives out of the water. it might be that i'm comparing old drives to a more recent model though. still the failure rate is b/s. 2 160gig, 1 300gig barracudas, and 1 500 gig maxtor. that makes me think, maybe seagate isn't so great. i'll see about wds

[DaGleese]

@blueovalfan23 gotta agree with the other dude

i have a 500GB seagate momentus 7200 rpm in my laptop, which has very mediocre specs (dual core processor, 3GB ram etc)

and i have a 500GB WD caviar black 7200 rpm in my gaming rig, which has a much better quad core processor and 4GB ram

both systems are on 64-bit, but the laptop actually STILL transfers faster than my gaming rig

and seagate offer a 3 year guarantee, with data recovery

[blueovalfan23]

@DaGleese lol i had a 5 year old maxtor that was under warranty. i got what the tech support described as a brand new drive. it makes funny noises and demonstrates some strange behavior already. same thing for my fairly new freeagent. the momentus isn't a normal hard drive and the caviar blacks (imo) are are over rated. i just said i'll see about wd and seagate has had a bad run with me. i even pointed out i was comparing older drives to a newer one. i'm glad you are happy with the momentus.

[rogelioVela1985]

very nice video demo, intel.

hope your company will make more SSD and cheaper prices. just a comment.

[eltahan123]

but price not best friend

[Xpert30]

This demo is amusing cuz how can a SSD drive increase fps in games? There's no sense to buy SSD drive if u have a weak videocard and insufficient amount of memory...

[vendo233]

@Xpert30 Oh totally. Immersive games like wow/might/benefit slightly from it, you know, what with loading certain areas and what not (I don't play wow, I'm running off assumption). But actual fps? Psh, you'd be an idiot not to upgrade the Video card, CPU, and RAM first.

[georgie1998ful]

High gears, indeed, SSD let me own you!! Bought a Kingston, awesome and cheaper

[Xpert30]

@georgie1998ful

Don't be too quick pal. Kingstons (except the latest V+ series and remarked Intel's SSDs) are good for nothing because of their slow controllers. Besides, they might have good speed rates at the beginning of their so to speak "career", but degrade some time later. At first I bought Kingston 64 Gb V+ series, but in a week I exchanged it with additional charge for Intel X25-M.

[Neandrathal]

This is a very poor test.

[TheDavesail]

FUCK U THIS IS STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!

[TotalyGamer]

I'll wait another year until 1TB SSD's will be available.

[sobrienism]

showing just the load time difference would be more impressive

[masterchief3k]

yeah, this shows a lot with the cuts in the video and all.

[HDaviator]

do SSDs only affect loading time? Comparing the price between regular hdds and SSDs, I think I can wait a bit more for the game to load.

[bobbycat711]

hey dude if u have dont have much money u can get 40 gb sdd for $100 and u will need 1 more hard drive for data

[4763843]

what si the best Storage unit (fastest) SSD or WD velociraptor??? or there is something else faster?

[svampebob007]

@4763843 the fastest and most reliable (meaning less chances for failure) is the SSD, but for file storage, the HDD would be best because it's much cheaper and the chances for a HDD to fail so so minimal that it's still worth buying. I my self bought a 120 GB SSD for OS and other frequently used and heavy programs and 10Tb of HDD (5x2Tb) for *cough cough* download *cough* and......???

So Go for SSD for pure speed but expect to pay a heavy price!.

[4763843]

@svampebob007 WTF 10Tb??? How much are you using now!?!? u got server?

[svampebob007]

@4763843 I'm using 4,5TB out of 6TB, and yes I have a file server (my computer), I'm selling 4TB of storage to the other people that live in the house. that''s how I pay for my rent :P

[Buttonspammer]

fake

[flawns]

this comparison is fucking stupid!!!

start a game at the EXACT SAME TIME.....

then start a new act the EXACT SAME TIME.

how you guys set up this video comparison is fucking horrible I couldn't even tell the 3.5 drives where any slower if it wasn't for the timer.

you guys showed 2 completely different things happening at the same time

[thatguitarguy99]

@flawns I think the point was to show that you can get more done on a SSD because it takes less time.

[HDaviator]

@flawns

They where running a script so that when one program ran for a certain amount of time it switched to the other one. They both did the exact same thing.

[Erhoben]

I suppose that if you have the most extreme case of ADD, and get bored of playing a game after 20 seconds of game time, and feel the urge to load up a new game, a SSD is for you. Let's stop and think here. We know SSDs do not improve FPS or performance in gameplay in any major way. You spend 98% of the time playing the game, not loading it. Price per gig on a SSD is through the roof.

This isn't my friend. This is your attempt to get me to buy overpriced crap as a gamer.

[bharatkumargupta]

i ll buy these harddrives,they serve great purpose for me!

[Kri38]

Do you have to have a intel motherboard to get the intel ssd?

[ytxcg]

hooray for more money to spend

[theTechBOY64]

SSD to the end!

[WiierdGamer]

I get to live in an era if high-end technologies! :3

[aziansn4k3]

too bad solid state drives cost a fortune

[markusblomstrand92]

@aziansn4k3 to bad your a cheap fuck

[aziansn4k3]

@markusblomstrand92 that's great too bad you're an asshole

[markusblomstrand92]

@aziansn4k3 Yeh cause I shit on people like you.

[aziansn4k3]

@markusblomstrand92 so you like to shit on people? weird fetish you have there

[markusblomstrand92]

@aziansn4k3 Rather funny to make people look like shit.

[barf245]

@aziansn4k3 they are getting cheaper

[seantal007]

@aziansn4k3 a fortune ? a good proccessor costs 200 dollars a good graphics card costs 200 dollars a good mainboard costs 150 dollars good ram costs 80 dollars so i think a good and very fast storage device is woth 100 dollars . its just the people dont wanna pay 100 bux for 50 gigs if the can have 1000 gigs for 50 dollars . most people just see the capacity not the speed . i mean big hdds are good for media n stuff but boot up and games you should definetely use an ssd . hdd's bottleneck

[CJCA915]

I might purchase an SSD once they come down in price, and have more storage per drive, because right now, I can get a 1TB HDD for $80.

[Zallomallo0]

SSD is improved loading times, once in your actually inside the performance isn't too much better.

[focus0306]

That being said. SSDs are not for your average computer user. For a pack-rat and SSD would be an inconvenience. For gamers, power users, multitasking, multimedia junkies; Yes, install only the necessities and commonly used software on it, and dump the rest on a HDD. They do have 128 and 256 SSDs. Combined in RAID-0 is plentiful for a gamer to install half a dozen big titles on.

[focus0306]

Think about other useful uses like CAM or CAD software. More popular in the tool and die trade Mastercam. compiling very large, complex tool paths involves intense HDD usage. So a solid-state drive would drastically improve number crunching and getting that program to the CNC machine quicker and cutting alloys then traditional HDD. Also it will greatly help video editors in video encoding. There are other areas a SSD would greatly be useful. Not just gaming and power users...

[channelintel]

Hello kawaihui. We've put the Intel SSDs in various RAID configurations and haven't experienced problems. Of course, I can't speak for all SSD vendors.

[kawaihui]

The only thing is, make sure don't Raid the SSD, it'll mass up the drive in about a month.

[channelintel]

Hello, I'm with Intel and I'm the monitor for this forum. Some end users have anecdotally seen FPS boosts with our SSDs and it's also possible to occasionally see visual improvements with our SSDs not related to FPS (particularly when playing a PC game at its highest graphics setting.) However, SSDs aren't meant to compete with gfx cards. If you have high-end gfx & CPU in your system, you should consider adding an SSD because at some point you will experience storage I/o bottlenecks.

[Adeon55]

@channelintel Hello, channelintel. I was curious, if a system were set up with a small SSD as the primary boot drive (30 or 40gb) with only the OS on it, combined with a large HDD drive for storage to actually install the games on (500gb+), would the SSD still boost the loading / performance of the games?

[channelintel]

Hello Adeon55. While we haven't done the experiment you described, I don't think that installing only the OS to the SSD would improve the game level load time.

[Adeon55]

@channelintel I see, thank you for the response. :-)

[Magnuspire]

@channelintel No, the games will still have to be loaded off the physical HDD which would still yield the same old HDD speed results.

[Vampyreq]

@Adeon55 By logic, it'll improve your boot up times from a shut down, and anything to do with the OS will improve, plus anything on the SSD. But anything on the conventional HDD will still remain.

[Taima]

@Adeon55 My understanding of SSDs are that only what you have on those drives is what will run uber fast.

If you put just the OS on the hard drive, then only the OS will fly like that. Because of the huge size of games these days, I'm probably gonna wait before buying an SSD drive so I can put more than a couple games on it.

[zergdog]

@Adeon55

Your boot times will increase but as for loading the games no because they are still being read off a 7200rpm drive so best bet is to get about a 60-100gb for a boot drive then save up for a really nice ssd thats 250+ gb and load your games on that .. overall your computer bottleneck will change to most likely the cpu.

[decimat777]

@Adeon55 Yes the setup you are asking about will increase performance in games, having the second drive only being used for programs and games is better than just a single drive because both the OS and the programs have to access the drive in a single drive setup. The physical performance boost is not much though. save your money and wait for price drops, then get a larger capacity.

[growingup2204]

@channelintel Hi, so you meant beside loading speed, SSD can also boost up the fps in games ? and what are the visual improvements not related to fps ??? My system is i7 920, 6gb memory and gtx295, fps in Crysis at max setting was 40-50 fps, yetI have problems called missing texture, everything only appear if I get really near them, do you think it is because of my 8mb cache HDD, will the SSD solve that ?

[swiftarrow22]

@Therearenogoodsc ok explain to me why i would pay $1000 to get a 10-15 fps boost when i could buy 3 gtx 285's and get a way better fps boost

[Z3RiN]

Also helps in performance for games with big textures. I got 12 to 16fps better in GTAIV using SSD.

I went from 32fps @ 2560 x 1600 to 48fps

[wushuk1ng]

Make sure you guys get a generation 2 SSD to have TRIM support.

[swiftarrow22]

id rather spend a grand in a new gpu and processor

[Masterke85]

@swiftarrow22 NOOB :)

[swiftarrow22]

how so why would i spend a grand to boost my fps a little when i can spend that money and get a gpu and cpu that will increase my fps 20x fold over getting a SSD you sir are the n00b

[Masterke85]

@swiftarrow22 Just joking dude be what you wanne be......and you should know that the hdd in your pc is the slowest component. And your pc is only as fast as your slowest component. grtz

[itchyfingers89]

Noob

[Masterke85]

@itchyfingers89 hahaah thx mate

[unokilo321]

subbed to the channel, thanks for the video upload, I never noticed it before, I just noticed these ssd's on sale last week and was thinking about picking one up.

[countdown54321]

contradicted yourself with it does give u fps and then stating its not suppose to give u fps. I'll get one for those MMO's and instance load times :)

[mille666]

<3 my X25-M G2 SSD

[MeestaKeefGirly]

yeah on mine fallout 3 and oblivion no shuttering! NONE!

[Twisted86]

@MeestaKeefGirly

How about Gothic 3?

I find most that like Morrowind/Oblivion have Gothic 2-3 :P

[MeestaKeefGirly]

@Twisted86 not sure havent played it... i would assume so...

[johnie1992]

It loads the games faster but does it get better FPS?? cause i dont think so...

Nice video 5/5 :)

[madmarco245]

Texture heavy games like Arma2 (and maybe GTA4) benefit from this as the huge textures take longer to load. This gives the illusion of low FPS, but it's really just the computer stuttering as it loads the textures. The SSDs overcome this.

[johnie1992]

So you mean that an SSD will give me a better gameplay But not more FPS?

[madmarco245]

Essentially, yes. Search "arma 2 ssd" in google and click the 'tacticalgamer' link. Good explanation there.

[johnie1992]

Ok thanks I'll check it ou!

It's the same with GTA IV? I mean the way it works... can an SSD increase the GTA IVs fps too?

Also does problems like road or buildings disappearing when running very Fast are caused by my slow HDD??

Thanks dude :)

[madmarco245]

I am not sure, it could be. If not, it might just be the video card. I don't have an SSD and I rarely get the disappearing buildings problem.

[johnie1992]

Ok, I found that I was looking for in "tacticalgamer" :)

Thanks!

[Ryuuken24]

Its not a graphics card, dude, its only a solid state driver, its not supposed to give you fps, but make things go faster, get it, alas your games will also read faster !

[johnie1992]

Yea but whats the point to get one when it does not improve the gameplay!?

Whats the point to read faster when they dont get more FPS??

[Ryuuken24]

You do get more FPS, but it will vary with all games, due to size of games, but the performance overall will be great. The downsize to SSD drivers is the price.

[unokilo321]

it helps load games faster.  like cod4 or any other fps games for that matter. I have a old dual core and even though it's oc'd it takes forever to load the server or new map, I didn't notice until gaming at a friends place while waiting for the new map to load when it says "waiting for server to load map" that it's me waiting and everyone else with a good computer is already playing, my friend played a round while I loaded up, I used to wonder how people had kills already by the time I joined

[Magnuspire]

Mostly right. It's a solid state drive. Instead of using a moving disk and magnets it uses System ram and Thumb drive technology for storage.

[uut0]

how fast are 2 samsung f1 spinpoints in raid 0?

[riDDimann]

Look for SSDs with Indilinx controller. Those rock. Like them better than even Intel's.

Anandtech started that "100% 4k random write is everything"-trend. Now, while random write is important and it did show why JMicron-SSDs suck, it's not the only thing that matters from a consumers's perspective.

[bigdima3]

i'd rather cut one of my legs off than spending 600 pounds on one 2.5 inch ssd

[riDDimann]

Intel SSDs should start at about 160, other similarly good models even lower than that.

[bigdima3]

ye i know, like ocz, trancend etc , ,,but intel ones have intel controller in while others have jmcron

[sajfen]

Those 7200 rpm harddrives were 2.5" Seagate Momentus 7200.2. Dunno if it was the fastest drives 8 months ago but they're still damn slow by todays standards. 45.80MB/s read (tomshardware) compared to Seagate 7200.12 with >100MB/s.

[riDDimann]

The 7200.12 is a 3.5" drive.

[7Vitagen]

this video has time transitions, not cool. bad comparison.

[fibertech9]

Intel didn't start the SSD revolution but it sure did kick it into high gear.

[Twisted86]

SSD might be worlds faster but you can pick up 2x250GB 7200RPM for 120bucks total...1/4 the price of the cheapest SSD.

[Fletcherwyla]

You're getting ripped off. I got a 1.5 TB drive for $120 off of Newegg.

But yeah, your argument is still valid.

Also, games are huge now as well, most newer games averaging around 6 GB. That's only 13 or 14 games on the biggest SSD out right now.

[Twisted86]

Well I simply saying for a lot more space + Raid 0 you can do better and get faster speeds if 7200RPM is not acceptable vs using SSD.

Personally I run 2x 120GB SATA drives in RAID 0 and have a 500gb storage drive away from the array to prevent loss of data.

Works like a charm though I am sure SSD destroys it.

[johnthegr8]

Yeah it does destroy it... i got a Patriot Warp SSD on tiger direct, it was $125 on sale for 64g

well worth it, im running windows 7 on it, games boot insanely fast... and system boot is never longer than 5 sec from power to log in screen

[SPLITZRZR]

have you tried the boot on xp?

[johnthegr8]

no i havent, ive run vista and windows 7 only on it.. windows 7 just seems a bi faster at things to me for some reason... im sure it would run fine though, just be sure to partition it for 10-15 gigs only for the OS and the rest for whatever....

[24putersavvy86]

I bloody wish they'd just replace those slow pieces of garbage controller-cards they put in there that makes the drive writes slow and start selling drives that are quick and useful rather than just cpu rehashes, we need faster writing ssd's not more cpus 4.fkz sake!

[joshnc101]

Aint that the truth. Everythings gaining speed and power, but the regular hard drives cant keep up as well. Computers have been using 7200rpm drives for many years. High rpm drives are a good improvement but their still kinda expeinsive and no where near being mainstream except in expensive high end pc's. I hope SSD's come down in price and go up in capacity, and fix that writing issue many were having.

[Balmer1]

nice

[XenoSilvano]

I really want to buy a solid state drive but frankly the price is way too high! $600 c'mon

[DerekFord95]

Dang, looks nicer than the OCZ SSD's. Probably cause it's optimized for Intel, but still, AMD sucks, so Id like it. Probably cost more than the OCZ ones though. :(

[PeteRoy]

I am happy that Intel realized hard drives are the biggest choke point in computer hardware, it is about time someone take the hard drive performance out of the stone age.

[staticxmako]

lol a typical intel noob ^^^

ugh buddy there have been ssd's for like 30 years know

but they have been avable to the public about 3 months ago

and now JUST NOW intel has one just now

and this isnt the only thing they copy

they copy amds barcelona cpu

and amds 45nm cpu

but when you reply to this your gion to say something like this

(then why the hell dont i see them for sale or have i heard about them)

the answer to that is becuase amd doesnt advert and could afford to realesE!

[Raidertilldeath]

No your the stupid noob! Intel had 45nm node ALOT LONGER then AMD had! We are talking 10 years!...and Amd is the one who copy intel! Thats why half of AMDs chip technology is leased to AMD by intel!! In other words every CPU AMD sells intel is getting a cut!LOL So go back to Integrated circuit school before you come on youtube acting all foolinsh! You AMD fanboy!

[staticxmako]

wow cleary u dont read

its a fact

as in it cant be changed

look it up

the made

not thought up

they made it first

[Raidertilldeath]

I am sorry, I did read your post wrong.IBM is the one leasing out 45nm technology to AMD.Intel in fact are the first to design and build 45nm & 32nm chips ex...AMD should take another loan from that Abu Dubai group for future Reserch and Development..oh wait they own half of AMD.Your smack is weak...I am in no way an Intel fanboy but learn your facts before you come on here acting like a caveman!BTW AMD has yet to release there 45nm 'barcelona's' HAHA Your knowledge of CPU's is weak.

[staticxmako]

get a gf

[Raidertilldeath]

Do you want to get into my knoeledge of GPUs? I will school you there too buddy boy...ATI is alright but nvidea is better! common!! What do you have? btw i have a wife dont need a gf lol i think your the one who needs a gf..

[staticxmako]

"my knoeledge" ugh yea

[Raidertilldeath]

ohh sorry i didn't run spell check...knowledge (roll eyes)...is that better for ya!? your lame! Your cp is cute btw..my intel, nvidia powered system would pound it into submission lol cute tough!

[staticxmako]

o rly>? ok cool i dont have spell software noob and i actualy have 5 rigs not one owned would u like more detail of you being owned go to my channle i have proof and i have one 3.2ghz quad core witha raptor x and hd4850 and 4 gigs and 790fx board and one witha 3.0ghz dual core and 500gb hd and 2gigs and x1950pro and a intel rig! yes noob this is how i know they suck 2.10ghz o/c and 7800gt yes i have nvidia also! you got pwned nooob go to channel to see all rigs

[tdeath101]

weak.. i have a core i7 940 running at 3.4ghz with 6gigs of ram... the mobo is the evga intel x58 and i have 2 ssd on raid (each 30 gigs, if i remember correctly they should be the ocz ssd's), also i run dual SLI with the 9800gtx's. quality over quantity =) and um.. just a tip.. don't say noob lol it just makes you sound stupid =P

[DonkeyBonrProduction]

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