I've set here and read through all of these comments and no one has hit home: AFRICA. WE are all African and as Leakey discovered, all of our mitochondrial DNA links to the oldest woman fossil: Eve. Therefore, I have no problem claiming my American BLACK blood that was brought her enslaved from Santo Domingo that was mixed with Choctaw Indian, and French. That's one side of my maternal lineage. African records are inferior so, I can't complete the other side. I'm Creole but we are all AFRICAN!
@REDDOG525 Part II...The other side of my maternal lineage is French, British, Indian. Can't find those African records but they are there. My father's lineage is just as colorful. My surname comes from the UK. My dad's mother comes from a prominent German surname. Passing has been in my family for generations but my closest white forefather was in the 1800's/ Mom's- -1840's/Dad's. People assume that one of my parents are white and confused when they find out that neither were my grandparents.
@REDDOG525 Part III. Nor, great grandparents. I was born in 1964 and that 1800's white grandfather was born in like 1747 and is my great-great-great grandfather and my great-great-great grandmother was from Santo Domingo aboard one of Jean Lafitte's (the pirate/privateer/tobacco smuggler). My fore-mother's was a prized creole and her name is in a 1700's Last Will and Testament. I so relate to this Bliss Broyard and Anatole Broyard's interesting story. Creole folk know I'm black.
i feel like biracial people who look mostly black do not have it as bad. im half black half white but i look more white. i even get mistaken for Asian. there really arent that many of us creole ppl who look mostly white out there. so biracial ppl who look more black talking about how difficult it is really dont have any idea how hard it is for half white half black but look mostly white kids. please think about what im saying before u comment me back.
This story should show everyone that the idea of RACE is not precise it is combination of VISUAL/ CULTURAL/& GENETIC factors. It ALLOWED groups to unite beyond NATIONAL limitations! Also it allows whites to protect themselves from race mixing which is dangerous for them but not much of a threat for darker cultures
anatole was a Black creole, she is 1/2 Black and Whites really cannot tell the difference because Anatole clearly looks Black. Also, if race didn't mean a thing, he shouldn't have passed as White
Broyard made a conscious choice largely for career purposes. He knew black writers would not be taken seriusly or get to have the rewards that white ones do.
As a writer and a bi-racial man, I understand. The difference is I couldn't concieve of passing for white to advance my career.
However, I know now that if i did I would be extremely successful instead of just a working writer.
@MultiSmartass1 and why the hell is he supposed to not identify as White? he was a quadroon, he didn't have to PASS or FOOL PEOPLE TO BE White, he WAS White, simply victim of Jim Crow
@MultiSmartass1 you really think that Broyard didnt see himsself as white? RACIALLY? its not his fault that he couldn't hide his mulatto grandma or whoever
he was well aware of his makeup, "black" used in this context does not mean race, but a social place
lena horne used word black and white ancestry in the same sentence, just because you fight for advancement of colored people (like EVERYONE should do) does not alter your DNA
@Rockstafeller I don't know if Broyard saw himself as white but he chose to live as a white man.
The fact that he passed means he knew what he was. People who pass aren't ignorant but knowledgeable about their background-otherwise, why would they pass?
Race is a marker for many things: education, employment background, class.
Being black is by defintion a social place,a man on the societal totem pole, it not a purely "racial" phenomenon because this doesn't exist.
@MultiSmartass1 I have no standing here? Really? Well thats great news for me, because I do not live my life based on what society defines me as. If you have a problem with me saying I am multiracial then that is your misfortune not mine. I could care less about anyone laughing me out of their homes, it has already happened. See how ignorant you are? You know nothing about my experiences and why I choose to define myself the way I do. You are just a bigot who can't handle it.
@FSinatra1982 Your point was that the ODR along with slavery and segregation were abolished.
My rejoinder was that ODR still exists as a potent social exclusionary force used by African-Americans and that just because something is supposedly outlawed-like the caste system-doesn't mean it cant be used off the books.
I never said anything about your ethnicity or racial make-up so don't know why you are bringing it up.
Iam biracial so I have standing here. I don't know about you.
@MultiSmartass1 Yes it still exists but not formally as in a law, or written. You misunderstood what I said. Of course it exists because people keep referencing to it for their own advantages. But you are telling me that others will "laugh me out of their house", and I do not care what others think of me. I have been an outcast in the Black, White, Latino and Biracial communities, so I have to live my life the way I see fit, not based on racist rules of American society.
@MultiSmartass1 Trust me I have had problems with other biracial persons as well. Including competition over who is lighter, has better hair, lighter eyes, whether you have a White, Latino or Asian parent. Other biracials who only define themselves as Black become enraged with me for referring to myself as Multiracial and they try to find clever ways to "remind" me that I am only Black. So its frustrating on ALL sides.
@MultiSmartass1 You are so right on the money. I am sorry we misjudged each other in the beginning. I have come across alot of childish biracials. And of course the "Black Biracials" resent their White, Latino or Asian side and want other biracials to resent it too. They kiss up to Blacks who don't accept them either, because I was one of those people who kissed up to them and I got called "pale faced bitch" and White bitch. I joined a racist Black sorority who bullied me because my heritage.
@FSinatra1982 That's accurate. Your story is not unlike others sent me here on youtube by other biracials who have been either treated like shit or shunned because of their biraciality.
As I have mentioned on other pages, the way balcks and whites treat biracaciality differs.
Whites accept the fact that you are biracial and dislike you because of it.
Blacks reject your biracial status and yet dislike you because of it.
@MultiSmartass1 I really have to go case by case. Most Caucasians do not mind me saying I am Biracial or Mulitracial but typically it is for the wrong reason. They feel that I am trying to embrace White more than Black or Latino and often tell me "Well....you're not REALLY Black". With others we don't talk about race at all and I am just a person. Blacks I hate to say have been the worst. They feel that I am trying to be White (NOT!), trying to "pass". They do not understand at all.
From what I understand, Blacks can only see you as black.
They refuse to acknowledge biracial people-they are stuck on the ODR.
The only advice I can give you as a biracial person is to find biracial people who are okay with you being mutiracial or find white or other people who will have little to no problem with you.
Sadly, Blacks are hard to deal with. They can't acknowledge the reality of mixed race and resent biracials.
@MultiSmartass1 I do interact with others who just like me for me. I am not going to sit around waiting for acceptance from anyone. I have been very firm with a lot Blacks I come in contact with in regardless to being multiracial. I can tell that have some issues with it, but for the most part they leave me alone, with their one in a while reminders informing me that I am Black, which I do not deny. I am going to keep proclaiming multiracial and not succumb to pressures of others. Thanks!
@FSinatra1982 I didn't grow up in neighborhood that was either all black or all white so I didn't have to deal with such people. I didn't have to deal with individuals who had unreal and unjustifiable racial expectations.
After years of largely ignoring my biracial status, I have more recently examined it by reading and watching you tube videos.
Sadly, from what I see, a lot of black people are in denial about biraciality.
If they can't acknowledge reality, there is no moving forward.
@MultiSmartass1 We have to move forward ourselves, and demand our place in society. There have been so many movements in our country (Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Women Rights, Gay Rights) we MUST have a multiracial/biracial movement in order to move ahead. While being able to select more than one race on the Census was a start, its not enough. Even if its just a few of us, we have to do what we can to be recognized. I am glad you embrace heritage, it took a long time for me too.
However, you will find massive opposition in the US.
Blacks are the biggest opposition because-institutionally-they do not believe in biraciality and thus a rule that was meant to stigmatize and oppress blacks is used to keep down and oppress biracials.
Biracials also have to take blame. By calling themselves blacks, they help brainwash themselves.
The fact is in other countries that mixed race people have a distinct identity.
@MultiSmartass1 I so agree, there are so many biracials in this country that are unaccounted for because they identify as solely Black. I am really hoping to have a stronger movement. Other countries like Australia and UK do not focus as much on race as the U.S. We as multiracial and biracial persons have come a long way, but there is so much more we need to achieve as a whole. We are going to have opposition but we have to press through it.
@MultiSmartass1 You have said it all. Biraciality is a threat to the racial socioeconomic order. I am hoping that we can at least get to a point where we are recognized. Accepted maybe not so much, but we have to start somewhere.
@MultiSmartass1 Right it has been a slow process, just like other movements. I think like before Civil Rights people were afraid and wanted to keep things as they were, even though it was wrong. I hope in my lifetime I can see a powerful movement for multiracials.
@FSinatra1982 Well, Iam 40 and I don't quite see a movement yet.
If you truly believe in civil rights then you believe in the right of people of mixed race to lead their lives as multiracial people free from unwarranted stigma and discrimination.
In AA community, civil rights often goes one way.
Frankly, I have never been part of any AA community and I don't intend to be.
I didn't grow up with black people who disrespected me racially and had contempt for my lineage.
@MultiSmartass1 Yeah neither do I but even if its just a small group of us we can achieve a lot if we are persistant. I have been part of AA communities and they often treated me terribly and I just ignored it and kissed their asses even more. Didn't work. I can't count the number of times I was called "White Bitch" by Blacks. The last straw came for me when I joined a Black sorority and was bullied brutually. Now I stick to racially diverse communities and activities.
@MultiSmartass1 Its ok. Yes they treated me badly because of being multiracial, even before I started to embrace it. There were always comments in regards to my skin color, the music I listened to (mostly rock), the way I dance (I dance "White" to them), the way I dressed (allegedly that was white too). I said Johnny Depp was my ideal man they got furious. Soon as they realized that I refer to myself as multiracial it got even worse. Believe me that sorority is as racist as the KKK.
@MultiSmartass1 I loved the Beatles and Beach Boys too. Good question about dressing White. Blacks have generally looked at me differently because I don't wear hair weave. I have a collection of rock concert tees and I dress preppy so I am guessing that was their criteria. Family was tough too. The Black side would accuse me of trying to be White as well, but at the same time they didn't want me to go to a Black college. Experiences like this have helped me to embrace my entire heritage though.
@MultiSmartass1 Unfortunately not really. I have one but she tends to be confused. One minute she is trying to hide the fact she likes White guys, next minute she is talking about how gangsta Black people are, and the next minute she is talking about how much she hates the KKK. She is really confused and is also reluctant to embrace being biracial. My sister is a proponent though. She is not as fierce about the movement as I am but she does support it.
@MultiSmartass1 I have no idea what she sees herself. One minute she seems to respect I define myself as multiracial, and the next she is embrassed when we get around Black people. Love life hasn't been great. Many Black guys seem like I wasn't good enough for them. When was in high school they were the ones that called me cocaine face bitch. I went to an all Black college, same story there. Certain White/Latino/Asian guys were okay, but I really havent had luck with men of any color lol.
@MultiSmartass1 Yeah she does, she has a multiracial son who looks more Black/Native American and she is always talking about how dark he is. Just dumb in my opinion.
I tend to like Jewish guys because they seem to be able to understand my experiences. We tend to get along great as friends, but I have never personally been involved with one. I haven't gone out with a guy in 5 years and that is when I stop trying to get attention from Black guys who were completely ignoring me.
Its odd isn't it? They want you to consider yourself black and then they won't give you the time of day romantically.
Again, Iam certainly not an expert when it comes to the thorny issues of love as I am an unmarried man in his forties who has never had a wife or children and currently has no girlfriend.
I don't think I have been on a date in a few years.
Anyway, the only advice I can give is to find people you like and who wont ignore you.
@MultiSmartass1 You're so right on the money with that. They claim me as only Black, but then ignore me romantically, and get furious when they see me with a guy of another race. Finding someone really isnt my top priority right now. I see people on match.com and eharmony and I think they are crazy to spend money, to get hurt again. Most people I converse with now like me for who I am and not for some ulterior motive. I tend to keep my groups very small.
@FSinatra1982 That's sounds right to me. I have never spent any sizable amount of time on dating or romance and have had very little interest in relationships.
I don't forsee having any relationships with black women.
For one, there arent many where I live.
Secondly, I have always been interested in books and films,history and other subjects not alpha male pursuits like cars, bodybuilding and stuff like that.
Third, i don't think they would like my biracial status.
@MultiSmartass1 Oh wow, are you in the U.S.? I'm not putting Black guys down, but I have never had a positve experience with them, even before I started to define myself as multiracial. They were very verbally abusive to me. I am not saying all Black men are bad but I just don't have luck with them, but that is just me. People talk about how Rashida Jones only dates White guys. My answer is so does Jennifer Aniston but no one is talking about her because she is full White.
@MultiSmartass1 I don't know, the Black guys I were involved with or just around in college in particular were VERY arrogant. Many of them were frat guys and no one could "touch" them. They treated me as if I was not good enough for them. Even though I carried myself well, was a pretty good student. I could have sworn I had a viral plague or something. This one dude found out I liked him and he totally started acting like an asshole. He ignored me and I never even asked this dude out!
@MultiSmartass1 Yeah in high school I was bullied by Blacks, in college I was never considered good enough. I figured well since Blacks are going to treat me like garbage I might as well embrace all of my heritage, either way I am going to get treated like crap! Back in the day I use to tell other Blacks how I hated White people, and I often got told, (by Blacks) how dumb I looked for saying that because my complexion is so light. So I figured let me stop making a fool out of myself.
@MultiSmartass1 My sister had a different experience than me, she could relate to everyone, but the majority of her friends were White. Me I started off that way but then I was pressured by my mom to start acting Black, so I did, and I went overboard. I rejected Whites who wanted to be friends simply because they liked me, in favor of Blacks, who made fun of me and called me White bitch. For 12 years I tried to fit in the Black community, but failed. But it made me realize who I really am.
@MultiSmartass1 No its okay I don't mind sharing, yes I was raised by a single parent, my mom who was Black and part Native American. I realized not only with myself but with other biracial persons who try to fit in with the AA community they make themselves appear as they are trying too hard. They feel that if they try to fit in with Whites then they will be subjected to racism, however they don't realize that the nasty comments made by AA about biracial or "light skin Blacks" are racist too.
@FSinatra1982 I have found at looking at this issue that often biracials try to fit into the AA community and a number of them are shunned or treated like crap. Others do fairly well but they deny or ignore their ancestry as a whole to fit into the part of what they are.
I never had that experience.
I had two parents and because I didn't live in a black or caucasian neighborhood or area, I didn't have to fit into what those types of people felt I had to be.
@MultiSmartass1 I started growing up in a all Black neighborhood, but I never quite fit in with AA. I was only 3 when "neighbors" wrote White Bitches on my mothers car and our front door in reference to me and my sister. We moved when I was 4 to a predominately White/Latino area. Nearly every school I went to was a Black girl there who I would have issues with. Black people think I am lying about all this so I can "pass" for multiracial, and there's no such thing as racism in the AA community.
@MultiSmartass1 I agree. My sister did not experience the hatered from Blacks like I did because she never tried to force herself to fit in with them like I did. She didn't attend a Black college, she didn't pay $2000 to pledge a Black sorority, she didn't try to make Black guys like her, like I did. Therefore while she had racial issues with Blacks, it was not nearly to the degree that I have.
@MultiSmartass1 Yes most of them use it to their advantage. I find it interesting they can reject any other racial discrimination or negative stereotypes but they hold on to ODR like its of value. My problem is Blacks have ALWAYS accused me of not being "black enough" even when I was trying hard to fit in with them. However, when I say I am mixed or multiracial then they want to claim me as Black then! And they say Biracial/Multiracial people are confused? Yeah right!
@FSinatra1982 It seems like a Catch 22. You aren't black enough for them but once you say you are biracial or multiracial, they criticize you for trying to evade your blackness even though they don't consider you black in the first place.
No wonder so many b/wbiracials are hurt and traumatized emotionally as kids.
I don't really think you can try to "fit in"in any kind of racial community be it Black or white.
You have to stick to your identity and hope others come around.
@MultiSmartass1 Yeah unfortunately i had to find out the hard way. I am one of those traumatized kids. I paid $2000 to get in a Black sorority who has bullied me the entire time I have been a member. I graduated from a Black college which proves to be hurting me in the job market. All because I am trying to show how Black I am. If I could tell other biracial/multiracial persons to don't waste their time I would. I know have VERY few friends now and probably will always keep it at a minimum.
Again, I notice that all these bigmouths on this forum who tout how biracial people should forget their ethnic mix and just be black aren't responding.
Where are the haters when you need them?LOL
Sadly, Black people just don't want to deal with their own hatred and discrimination toward biracials.
They want to pass it off as simply a white thing.
Well, I'll say this-at least with whites you know where you stand.
@MultiSmartass1 I noticed that too LOL. Blacks don't want to deal with racism in their own community at all. I had a Black person tell me, when I told him that I was called pale faced bitch and White bitch by Blacks, that is the way Black people are and not racism. HA! Another so called biracial woman flat out told me I was crazy to think there is racism in the Black community, and Blocked me from her video. They think laughing and telling me that I dance White isn't racism, but it is.
@MultiSmartass1 You can't win, and I had to realize that. They feel by identifying as bi/multiracial is a new way of passing. I'm glad to hear it doesn't bother you and you're not allowing it to affect you in how you choose to identify. It did with me, but instead of feeling sorry for myself, I have learned from my mistakes, and it has encouraged me to push the multiracial movement. I hope that we can become more prominent and vocal in the years to come. We're going to have to fight for it.
I didn't grow up in either a black or white neighborhood and so i didn't have people demanding that I align myself as one or the other or fit into one type of so-called culture or the other.
So I could only be biracial.
Choosing one race over the other is always an unwinable scenario for the biracial person.
Frankly, I don't tout my biraciality too much.
As a professional, I prefer to let my work do the talking.
@MultiSmartass1 As a biracial person I feel that the angst you may feel from the Black community (whatever that is because most have European admixture) stems from the fact that they have to struggle so hard to be accepted by mainstream society. They can't claim Whiteness so they are not shielded from the full onslaught of racism directed to people of African descent. If one thing is clear by this story it is that no matter hwo talented or driven you are, White was and is easier.
@MultiSmartass1 I disagree with that. Biracial are accepted more readily than supposed pure Blacks ( which hardly any Blacks in the U.S. are pure). I've had a plethora of people tell me that , "oh you're real smart because you're half White." or that, "I can talk to you because you don't have the attitude of most Blacks". Biracial are seen as not completely Black so they are given more of a pass by White society. It doesn't matter the race of man but what he has to offer. Or so I thought.
@StormingBlackReign I cant agree that biracials are accepted in American society.
This has always been a racist society and will continue to be no matter what.
That's one thing you can always set your watch by.
That comments you mention other people lobbed at you seem racist to me.
What i have found In doing research on this matter and the comments made to me on youtube by biracials is that blacks have bigger problem with people being biracial than whites.
@MultiSmartass1 This is my main account, Stormingblackreign is a sattelite account. I'm not saying that biracials are accepted in White American society with open arms. I've studied history and I've seen where biracials were given certain restricted priveleges that Blacks were not given. Even most recently within the Black community light skinned people were thought to be better than dark skinned Blacks. I'm not saying that it is wrong for biracials to identify as such. To each his own.
@babiesboy1933 As someone who is biracial and looked into the history and issues that people like me face, I don't have and never had have any interest in being "accepted" by American society.
All I want is to be able to practice my profession, live my life and be left alone.
You don't need to love me or like me-just don't bother or harass me.
I have never needed to be understood or to be accepted.
Biracials will never be accepted in this society-those are the facts.
@MultiSmartass1 I'm biracial myself. My father was Black and my mother is White. I'm speaking from personal experience. I'm 15 and a sophmore in HS, I also identify solely as Black because I look more Black than White and I am accepted more openly by Blacks than Whites.
@MultiSmartass1 I'm about as logical and consistent as racism. There is no logic or consistency behind it all. Take our history for instance. First miscegenation was not illegal, then it became illegal, now it is legal. How do you pass a law when it comes to life and love? What is the logic behind it? I am accepted by Blacks because of how I look. I am also accepted by Whites because of their perception of what I am. Maybe when I get older I will adopt your stance. Life is hardly logic.
@MultiSmartass1 Well for me, racism is certainly not logical. Especially when you have people who are able to cross the color line. Race to me suggest a deeper meaning. The laws against gays are illogical to me as well. It hasn't curbed homosexuality, but made those who are second class citizens or try to pass as straight. I don't know what I want out of you..........a kindred spirit perhaps or someone to validate these emotions awakening inside of me.
@MultiSmartass1 it's hard to verbalize especially to someone who I don't know if I completely trust. I remember being 8 yos. and going to school on the bus. I remember telling some kid, a white kid older than me, that I was Black and White. i remember him getting angry about it and attacking me and choking me. I was shocked, angry, and I had a feeling of shame.
@babiesboy1933 I understand that such incidents in your past elicit pain and if you do not wish to discuss specific incidents that is entirely up to you.
As you can see on this page and another-which name I forget at this time-some biracials (or people who say they are-no one can confirm this stuff online) have expressed their thoughts, feeling and incidents relating to their biraciality.
I don't like sunshine saccarine stuff but these forums confirm that people like you and me are not alone.
I agree with you, I'm a very light skinned biracial guy but I've still encountered racism from whites, been called a monkey once and been followed around in stores, and a bunch of white kids even told me once that I was black even though I tried to tell them I wasn't so you are very right
I don't care. Most ppl here think I'm Puerto Rican but if someone asks, I tell them I'm black and white, or say I'm 75% white and 25% black (as far as I know), if they don't like it, that's their problem.
Geez! I don't think I've ever met a person like you who's more than 13,000 years old enough to know when whites weren't around. Congratulations! What's your secret to staying alive so long?
hey, stupid nigger, whites evolved 30,000 years ago, not 13000, and you black faggot monkey will be next on the list of extinction when whites stop feeding you and giving you aids medicine.
I think it's so funny that these videos about people denying their black side always has Biracial Tiffany's videos connected to them. LOL. I can't stop laughing.
For me,Yak, I make my point a couple of times then move on.I dont waste my time/energy on them.They have been human for 250,000 year&have nothing to show, for example, no writing.How can u have intelligent discourse with that.Indeed, their inventors in USA have all been mulattoes.LOL.Most blacks are best known for entertainment: sports,sex (donkey dicks),cannon fodder in wars,noisy music.Let us enjoy them for what they can do&lets not hold them to standards they cant reach.That would be cruel
actually in west africa there is documented proof that we have the oldest text in history and empires as well.You should learn more about our people before you try to speak ill of us.
Yak, I am neither white nor half black, and I am not afraid to use the word Nigger when it is appropriate, but I am mulatto. I just dont see how one should use this vile word indiscriminately, and it does have its place. Also, I am a nice guy
Actually, mulatto is a term used to identify all individuals of black and white ancestry whatever their degree of black or white ancestry. More specifically, it defines a person who has one black and one white parent. The term mulatto is used all over the Americas in the former fashion mostly so the latter descriptor would also, by definition meet that criterion. Hope this fool has enlightened you!!!
Bliss is just another igornant woman. Her father is ignorant as well. How can you be ashamed of yours, ours, my black history. After blacks have been stripped from our culture and put in an environment where hate is really aimed at us. And for bliss to say she feels more connected to the black american story after the fact that she finds out thats she is black is ridiculous. She's stupid. bBack history is still american history, why couldnt she have a "deep" connection when she was just white.
@monilove118 Blacks don't have a culture. Africans have their specific cultures. Black people have an African-American subculture which has developed from their presence and activitity in the Americas. The majority of Black people know nothing about Africans or their heritage. As for Bliss, she has to a certain extent , black ancestry through her father. The fact she feels an obvious connection through her roots is logical. Your position is just plain stupid.
yes Barack is white, but saying he is not black is ridiculous. Especially since he has a strong educated black wife who brought him 75% black children who if they have children with a black man would create 80% black children.
why is there such a negative conotation when it comes to the word black?? The hard core fact is if you have any sort of African ancestry your ass is black.....period. The oldest human fossils were found it Africa. What does that tell you?? You can fight it all you want to but before you smack your gums simply do the research. If we were living in 1850 and this information had just come out she would have been picking cotton just like the rest of the nigras' in the cotton fields.
That is Bullshit Why does the AA community embrace the one drop rule or "the one drop of black your ass is black"..as stated by this persons comment. Are AA's afraid that there will no longer be a so called "unified Black Community"?
Yes, the only thing you have said that makes sense is your comment about one-drop. So, if you know that the rule is racist, why then would you choose to perpetuate it. You are a black racist and even more vile than white racists because you should know better
After the Masters, he had clout. Whites live in fear and trepidation about what they call anyone. I am not sorry for them; its bad karma, but blacks are behaving the same way. Tiger is not Black, neither is Halle Berry and millions more. Obams is proud of both sides, as I understand it, and if he did not, I would care zero. He is a politician, and would never have one had he defined as multi-racial: blacks would never vote for a multiracial.
Tiger is black and Halle is black too. you can say multiracial or part black, but the fact is black is mentioned. With Halle she mainly identifys as black and you wouldnt know she was white until you see her mother. Obama, yes he is proud of both sides, but he identifys himself as black 1st. What do they have in common? They all the top people in areas where black people are not dominate in and done things no other black person has done (win masters, be president, oscar for lead woman).
your comments make no sense. What do they all have in common--white blood. And you biracial hating black nazis cant change that. You have no right to define anyone else. If you do, the word Nigger comes to mind.
@yak6ex Nope Blacks didn't invent the one drop rule, but they are sure holding on to it like a million dollars. If Blacks can reject racism, segregation, and other Jim Crow racist laws, why not reject the one drop rule? No Blacks will never reject it because they are using it to their own advantage.
I KNOW THAT and if im correct i mentioned that. However like I said, all 3 except Tiger identify as black first. I didnt say it, they did. If you as Obama, the first thing he calls himself is African American.
Really, your points are lost in your inarticulateness. I do not know what you are trying to say. Obama says he is African American; it is his right. Truth is that if he described himself as anything else, you USA Negroes would lynch him. It is a pity that he has to deny his mother to have gotten the presidency. It is a bad example for America, and future generations will understand why but disapprove of what he did. I hope he is a great president, though. USA needs him.
no we would not lynch him. Personally, as long as he does not forget his black side, its fine with me. As long as he does not deny that he is part African American, It does not matter which one. And stop saying negroes.
In the USA, anyone with identifiable black ancestry will be forced to identify as black or will not succeed. If Woods is the exception, it is the exception that proves the rule. The Black Gestappo Racial Police in USA are alive and well
@johnpurple1000 Finally, a person with some sense on this page besides me. I notice the people here with biggest problem with biracials seem to be black. It just confirms my research. That doesn't keep whites off the hook by any means but it seems they either accept or reject you out of hand whereas balcks accept you only on certain conditions. Having grown up in neither white or black neighborhoods, they both dont matter to me.
@greenly100 You hit the nail on the head. It is a statistical and cultural set of anxieties based within many black communities. A number of black people work against the interests of bi-racials by trying to delegitimize bi-racials, I have found in my readings and research. Forced to acept the one drop rule by whites in the past, blacks cling to this as a marker of black purity-either racially or culturally-and pride.
hes not black did you see his picture?"..lol and so what, what does that mean? so we define black simply by how one looks, there is a heavy social aspect to race, check out sandra laing, the blackest whit girl I ever saw
its a legacy, obviously broyard hid the fact that he was black, so he could succeed. you guys are color struck and thats it, you can have two black people who have the similar ancestry and one can be extremely fair and one can be very brown, broyard was indeed black, no less black by ancestry than collin powell, nona gaye, jimmy hendrix bob marley,.
these COLOR struck people are astonishing at their old ages they still don't get it , you can compare a social realm of reality to a banana its food, its doesn't work that way. Because for example the average African American has 20% non black ancestry, 80% certainly isnt 100% percent. and yet they are black your banana theory is pointless. to be African American does not mean you will have no white ancestry.
Mr Broyard was not Black.He was a Creole and Mulatto.Not all People of African Descent identify as African Americans He was Mixed Race,just as much White as black.White America Labels People as they see fit.The One drop rule is a Racist instrument that furthers the cause of alienation.Creoles Are not African Americans.Broyard was not passing.White America seems to always find ways to catagorize and sterotype .The Man didn't reveal his Heritage and why should he? It's nobody's business but his
He's not black can't You see his picture ?...Simply because You want to make him black does not make him black...Stop playing the Race cards...He's mixed Race with African Heritage so why not leave it at that...Why, Why, Why are You trying to force Your way on him...You cannot place a label on someone else to suite the status quo..Since when does half a Banana make a Whole? ...use your math..
bonehead, Barrack Hussein are African names. not white. yes his moms white, I know that. But if you ask him, he identifies as black. he has a black wife, black children, and lives mostly around black people o the Southside of Chicago. Dont get mad because Barack is proud of his African heritage.
Neither Barrack nor Hussein originated in Africa. Either way, so what. Moreover, I did not say that Obama was white: I was responding facetiously to a damn fool comment that because his father was black, he was black. My response to the fool was: his mother is white so that makes him white.
Typical negro u. If you do not agree, you are stupid.Her father had every right to his beliefs & opinions as are you to yours.Most non-blacks in US have no connection with your black history, except that we feel sorry for you.U are in USA because your ancestors sold you.African political & social culture would destroy USA; pity that you did not stay in Africa to practice your black culture there.Why dont you appreciate white culture: it took you away from a backward and corrupt continent.
Your right black I.Q.s are so low that Africa will never look like Japan or France(advanced). Mexico is only one step above Africa, both very primitive.
I am optimistic that Africans will eventually overcome their not very distinguished history. I do not believe in the concept of the IQ, nor do I believe the Mexico is one-step above Africa. That is a tad exaggerated. France itself, a country I love, is a little bit of a has-been nation. Does that mean that French IQ is lower today than yesterday?
That is not entirely true. South of Egypt a black nation became great and ruled over Egypt. I believe it was the 15th dynasty but I may be wrong on that. Ethiopia and Sudan have amazing histories as well. As for the rest of Africa, I concur. However, north Africa and the mid-East which are in many ways "mixed " nations do have quite a set of accomplishments
@johnpurple1000 Iam not pessimistic about African nations. I have met a few Africans in my day and I like them far better than many American blacks. A number of these value education and work and don't make a lot of excuses. As for the Africa/Mexico crack, how can you compare an entire continent to one nation. As for France, it clearly is one of the leading European nations partly due to government investment in industry and business.
yak, you are just one bad thinking dude. Yes, yes. It is so sad that mulattoes have to pass as black to get ahead in black racist America. If Obama had said he was biracial, the Negroes would have dumped him and voted for the white guy instead. And God forbid.Obama should have had a white wife and produced white looking kids, the Negroes would have assasinated him for misceginating with whites. The blacks can be such hypocrites
I've set here and read through all of these comments and no one has hit home: AFRICA. WE are all African and as Leakey discovered, all of our mitochondrial DNA links to the oldest woman fossil: Eve. Therefore, I have no problem claiming my American BLACK blood that was brought her enslaved from Santo Domingo that was mixed with Choctaw Indian, and French. That's one side of my maternal lineage. African records are inferior so, I can't complete the other side. I'm Creole but we are all AFRICAN!
REDDOG525 3 days ago
@REDDOG525 Part II...The other side of my maternal lineage is French, British, Indian. Can't find those African records but they are there. My father's lineage is just as colorful. My surname comes from the UK. My dad's mother comes from a prominent German surname. Passing has been in my family for generations but my closest white forefather was in the 1800's/ Mom's- -1840's/Dad's. People assume that one of my parents are white and confused when they find out that neither were my grandparents.
REDDOG525 3 days ago
@REDDOG525 Part III. Nor, great grandparents. I was born in 1964 and that 1800's white grandfather was born in like 1747 and is my great-great-great grandfather and my great-great-great grandmother was from Santo Domingo aboard one of Jean Lafitte's (the pirate/privateer/tobacco smuggler). My fore-mother's was a prized creole and her name is in a 1700's Last Will and Testament. I so relate to this Bliss Broyard and Anatole Broyard's interesting story. Creole folk know I'm black.
REDDOG525 3 days ago
@REDDOG525 didn't complete ** my great-great-great grandmother was aboard one of Jean Lafitte's ships. **
REDDOG525 3 days ago
¡Another reason why the notion of race is stupid! Race does not exist.
chsn09 5 months ago
i feel like biracial people who look mostly black do not have it as bad. im half black half white but i look more white. i even get mistaken for Asian. there really arent that many of us creole ppl who look mostly white out there. so biracial ppl who look more black talking about how difficult it is really dont have any idea how hard it is for half white half black but look mostly white kids. please think about what im saying before u comment me back.
TenshiTamagoKidd15 10 months ago
she's got to be the oldest looking 24 year old i've ever seen. lol
FuckUtube4Life2010 11 months ago
Broyard made a rational choice in passing.
He wanted to write at the highest level and live without racial obstacles and barriers.
What nobody gets into on this forum is the economic and professional reality that Broyard faced as a writer.
He couldn't have been a Literary Editor for the NYT if he remained a black man.
I used to criticize passing when I was younger.
Now I realize that these people are not committing any crime and should not be judged so harshly.
They wanted a good life.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
This story should show everyone that the idea of RACE is not precise it is combination of VISUAL/ CULTURAL/& GENETIC factors. It ALLOWED groups to unite beyond NATIONAL limitations! Also it allows whites to protect themselves from race mixing which is dangerous for them but not much of a threat for darker cultures
message2blackwomen 1 year ago
anatole was a Black creole, she is 1/2 Black and Whites really cannot tell the difference because Anatole clearly looks Black. Also, if race didn't mean a thing, he shouldn't have passed as White
psychmaj323 1 year ago
well you can certainly see her blackness; she looks creole
psychmaj323 1 year ago
@psychmaj323
Go put your glasses on.
yak6ex 1 year ago
@yak6ex you just don't know, blacks come in all colors, which is why her dad was able to pass; we come even lighter than Bliss, have a nice day!
psychmaj323 1 year ago
@psychmaj323 What about her blond hair blue eyed brother
albaid 1 year ago
@albaid lol, what about him? There are Blacks who have blonde hair and Blue eyes, not AS common, but they are there.
psychmaj323 1 year ago
Broyard made a conscious choice largely for career purposes. He knew black writers would not be taken seriusly or get to have the rewards that white ones do.
As a writer and a bi-racial man, I understand. The difference is I couldn't concieve of passing for white to advance my career.
However, I know now that if i did I would be extremely successful instead of just a working writer.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 and why the hell is he supposed to not identify as White? he was a quadroon, he didn't have to PASS or FOOL PEOPLE TO BE White, he WAS White, simply victim of Jim Crow
Rockstafeller 1 year ago
@Rockstafeller The one-drop rule in this country would dictate that if you had one drop of black blood, you were black.
He wasn't so much a victim of Jim Crow as a man who made a conscious choice to cross over for work and cultural reasons.
The racial lines in this country have always been fairly strict and rigidly policed at times.
He chose to pass and as I like to say, once you stop being black, you don't go back.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 you really think that Broyard didnt see himsself as white? RACIALLY? its not his fault that he couldn't hide his mulatto grandma or whoever
he was well aware of his makeup, "black" used in this context does not mean race, but a social place
lena horne used word black and white ancestry in the same sentence, just because you fight for advancement of colored people (like EVERYONE should do) does not alter your DNA
Rockstafeller 1 year ago
@Rockstafeller I don't know if Broyard saw himself as white but he chose to live as a white man.
The fact that he passed means he knew what he was. People who pass aren't ignorant but knowledgeable about their background-otherwise, why would they pass?
Race is a marker for many things: education, employment background, class.
Being black is by defintion a social place,a man on the societal totem pole, it not a purely "racial" phenomenon because this doesn't exist.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 He "passed" because
a) he was White
b) he was aware of ridiculousness of ODR, so he simply opposed it
Rockstafeller 1 year ago
@Rockstafeller He passed because
a) He was of mixed racial background and didn't want to be considered black for work and perhaps cultural reasons
b) even if he was opposed to ODR, that was not the reason he choose to pass.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 There is no one drop rule. That was abolished in 1967, just like slavery and segregation were abolished.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Like the caste system in India, formal structures or rules may be abolished but the racism and discrimination still remain.
Try telling millions of outcastes in India that the caste system does exist and that life is fair and equal for them.
They would laugh you out of their homes.
The ODR has been adopted by blacks who consider mixed race black not biracial.
Also, American society has long had contempt for biracial people and still does.
You have no standing here.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I have no standing here? Really? Well thats great news for me, because I do not live my life based on what society defines me as. If you have a problem with me saying I am multiracial then that is your misfortune not mine. I could care less about anyone laughing me out of their homes, it has already happened. See how ignorant you are? You know nothing about my experiences and why I choose to define myself the way I do. You are just a bigot who can't handle it.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Your point was that the ODR along with slavery and segregation were abolished.
My rejoinder was that ODR still exists as a potent social exclusionary force used by African-Americans and that just because something is supposedly outlawed-like the caste system-doesn't mean it cant be used off the books.
I never said anything about your ethnicity or racial make-up so don't know why you are bringing it up.
Iam biracial so I have standing here. I don't know about you.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Yes it still exists but not formally as in a law, or written. You misunderstood what I said. Of course it exists because people keep referencing to it for their own advantages. But you are telling me that others will "laugh me out of their house", and I do not care what others think of me. I have been an outcast in the Black, White, Latino and Biracial communities, so I have to live my life the way I see fit, not based on racist rules of American society.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 I guess I thought you justifying or supporting the ODR which I dislike.
The laugh out of the house line was in refence to my comparison to India's caste system not to you life of which i know nothing.
I'm curious. Why are you an outcast in Black, White, Latino and Biracial communities?
Why would biracial communties shun you?
I dont see it.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Trust me I have had problems with other biracial persons as well. Including competition over who is lighter, has better hair, lighter eyes, whether you have a White, Latino or Asian parent. Other biracials who only define themselves as Black become enraged with me for referring to myself as Multiracial and they try to find clever ways to "remind" me that I am only Black. So its frustrating on ALL sides.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Interesting, I never hear that on these biracial youtube pages.
Lighter hair? Lighter eyes? Sounds childish behavior to me.These biracials need to grow up.
Sadly, these "black" biracials are giving you heat because they don't like being of mixed race.
They ape black people because they want to be accepted by them.
They can't stand you saying you are mutiracial because they hate being of mixed race.
They know white may not like them so they kiss up to the blacks.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 You are so right on the money. I am sorry we misjudged each other in the beginning. I have come across alot of childish biracials. And of course the "Black Biracials" resent their White, Latino or Asian side and want other biracials to resent it too. They kiss up to Blacks who don't accept them either, because I was one of those people who kissed up to them and I got called "pale faced bitch" and White bitch. I joined a racist Black sorority who bullied me because my heritage.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 That's accurate. Your story is not unlike others sent me here on youtube by other biracials who have been either treated like shit or shunned because of their biraciality.
As I have mentioned on other pages, the way balcks and whites treat biracaciality differs.
Whites accept the fact that you are biracial and dislike you because of it.
Blacks reject your biracial status and yet dislike you because of it.
At least with whites, i know what Iam getting.
Blacks are in denial.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I really have to go case by case. Most Caucasians do not mind me saying I am Biracial or Mulitracial but typically it is for the wrong reason. They feel that I am trying to embrace White more than Black or Latino and often tell me "Well....you're not REALLY Black". With others we don't talk about race at all and I am just a person. Blacks I hate to say have been the worst. They feel that I am trying to be White (NOT!), trying to "pass". They do not understand at all.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 They do not understand and do not care to understand.
I find with whites that there is nothing at stake for them.
Unless they are racists and/or hard-core white supremacists, whites have no problem acknowledging biraciality.
With Blacks-because of their history-they cannot acknowledge mixed race people.
It is more convienient to pretend they are "blacks" and they expect you to believe that fiction.
Blacks always see it as a Zero-Sum game but raciality cant be seen like that.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Sadly, there isn't much you can do.
From what I understand, Blacks can only see you as black.
They refuse to acknowledge biracial people-they are stuck on the ODR.
The only advice I can give you as a biracial person is to find biracial people who are okay with you being mutiracial or find white or other people who will have little to no problem with you.
Sadly, Blacks are hard to deal with. They can't acknowledge the reality of mixed race and resent biracials.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I do interact with others who just like me for me. I am not going to sit around waiting for acceptance from anyone. I have been very firm with a lot Blacks I come in contact with in regardless to being multiracial. I can tell that have some issues with it, but for the most part they leave me alone, with their one in a while reminders informing me that I am Black, which I do not deny. I am going to keep proclaiming multiracial and not succumb to pressures of others. Thanks!
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 I didn't grow up in neighborhood that was either all black or all white so I didn't have to deal with such people. I didn't have to deal with individuals who had unreal and unjustifiable racial expectations.
After years of largely ignoring my biracial status, I have more recently examined it by reading and watching you tube videos.
Sadly, from what I see, a lot of black people are in denial about biraciality.
If they can't acknowledge reality, there is no moving forward.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 We have to move forward ourselves, and demand our place in society. There have been so many movements in our country (Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Women Rights, Gay Rights) we MUST have a multiracial/biracial movement in order to move ahead. While being able to select more than one race on the Census was a start, its not enough. Even if its just a few of us, we have to do what we can to be recognized. I am glad you embrace heritage, it took a long time for me too.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Yes, you are right.
However, you will find massive opposition in the US.
Blacks are the biggest opposition because-institutionally-they do not believe in biraciality and thus a rule that was meant to stigmatize and oppress blacks is used to keep down and oppress biracials.
Biracials also have to take blame. By calling themselves blacks, they help brainwash themselves.
The fact is in other countries that mixed race people have a distinct identity.
As for me, I had no choice.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I so agree, there are so many biracials in this country that are unaccounted for because they identify as solely Black. I am really hoping to have a stronger movement. Other countries like Australia and UK do not focus as much on race as the U.S. We as multiracial and biracial persons have come a long way, but there is so much more we need to achieve as a whole. We are going to have opposition but we have to press through it.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Australians and Brits don't have ODR.
Also, their racism is basically colonial and post-colonial class system exclusion.
The US is a nation based on white supremacy and racial exclusion.
This nation is based on a monoracial philosophy that favors whites over any one else.
It also requires that people stick to their own and keep in their own neighborhoods.
Biraciality has always been a threat in the US to this racial socioeconomic order.
That is why biraciality is bad here.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 You have said it all. Biraciality is a threat to the racial socioeconomic order. I am hoping that we can at least get to a point where we are recognized. Accepted maybe not so much, but we have to start somewhere.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Biracial people are to a certain extent recognized-mostly via the media and the census but we are recognized.
People of mixed race have to forge their own kind of statistical and social identity.
They have to see themselves through the lens of identity politics and protest/special interest groups and work accordingly.
If you don't cohere together in some kind of group or collective movement, you get nowhere in this nation.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Right it has been a slow process, just like other movements. I think like before Civil Rights people were afraid and wanted to keep things as they were, even though it was wrong. I hope in my lifetime I can see a powerful movement for multiracials.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Well, Iam 40 and I don't quite see a movement yet.
If you truly believe in civil rights then you believe in the right of people of mixed race to lead their lives as multiracial people free from unwarranted stigma and discrimination.
In AA community, civil rights often goes one way.
Frankly, I have never been part of any AA community and I don't intend to be.
I didn't grow up with black people who disrespected me racially and had contempt for my lineage.
Why change now?
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Yeah neither do I but even if its just a small group of us we can achieve a lot if we are persistant. I have been part of AA communities and they often treated me terribly and I just ignored it and kissed their asses even more. Didn't work. I can't count the number of times I was called "White Bitch" by Blacks. The last straw came for me when I joined a Black sorority and was bullied brutually. Now I stick to racially diverse communities and activities.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 We'll see about the movement.
What Iam curious about is why do you think they treated you like crap?
I don't want to bring back painful memories but why do you think they targeted you per se?
Was it just because you are biracial?
Sadly, I heard a story or two like this before.
I confess I don't know why AAs are so threatened by biracials.
I find that with whites-at least you know where you stand. They like you or they hate you.
What i hear from AAs is that its personalsorta
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Its ok. Yes they treated me badly because of being multiracial, even before I started to embrace it. There were always comments in regards to my skin color, the music I listened to (mostly rock), the way I dance (I dance "White" to them), the way I dressed (allegedly that was white too). I said Johnny Depp was my ideal man they got furious. Soon as they realized that I refer to myself as multiracial it got even worse. Believe me that sorority is as racist as the KKK.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 My first job after graduating from college was as a board op at a classic rock station.
I listened to rock growing up mostly too-I liked the Beatles and The Beach Boys.
I wouldn't have wanted to play rap music as a board op.
I don't get the dressing part-were you wearing lederhosen or something?
I guess Pamela Anderson was my ideal woman when I was in college. LOL.
Dancing White? I don't dance at all.
Good thing I didn't grow up where you did.
Sounds tough. What about family
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I loved the Beatles and Beach Boys too. Good question about dressing White. Blacks have generally looked at me differently because I don't wear hair weave. I have a collection of rock concert tees and I dress preppy so I am guessing that was their criteria. Family was tough too. The Black side would accuse me of trying to be White as well, but at the same time they didn't want me to go to a Black college. Experiences like this have helped me to embrace my entire heritage though.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Maybe you are better off without the weaves.
What's wrong with rock concert t-shirts?
I am a writer and so at times I might have dress preppy when I meet with editors or interview people.
I never saw that as a hindrance.
Sorry to hear about your family.
Do you have any good biracial or mutiracial friends who accept you?
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Unfortunately not really. I have one but she tends to be confused. One minute she is trying to hide the fact she likes White guys, next minute she is talking about how gangsta Black people are, and the next minute she is talking about how much she hates the KKK. She is really confused and is also reluctant to embrace being biracial. My sister is a proponent though. She is not as fierce about the movement as I am but she does support it.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 If your friend doesn't see herself as biracial, what does she see herself as?
Sounds like she has issues with black people and can't handle her attraction to white people.
If she likes white guys, she should just go with the flow.
Good that your sister is not afraid of being biracial.
I'm afraid to ask but has your romantic life been as tumultuous as your social life?
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I have no idea what she sees herself. One minute she seems to respect I define myself as multiracial, and the next she is embrassed when we get around Black people. Love life hasn't been great. Many Black guys seem like I wasn't good enough for them. When was in high school they were the ones that called me cocaine face bitch. I went to an all Black college, same story there. Certain White/Latino/Asian guys were okay, but I really havent had luck with men of any color lol.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Sounds like she has a problem with black people.
The only advice I can give is to decide what kind of guys you like and stick with that.
It seems black guys may not be right for you-maybe you are better off with other type of of guys.
Just what kind is up to you of course.
I should talk- I have a nonexistent love life.
The last woman who showed any interest in me was an older woman at a party at a film festival I attended last year.
Later we met again but it was bitch, bitch.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Yeah she does, she has a multiracial son who looks more Black/Native American and she is always talking about how dark he is. Just dumb in my opinion.
I tend to like Jewish guys because they seem to be able to understand my experiences. We tend to get along great as friends, but I have never personally been involved with one. I haven't gone out with a guy in 5 years and that is when I stop trying to get attention from Black guys who were completely ignoring me.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Iam sorry to hear that.
Its odd isn't it? They want you to consider yourself black and then they won't give you the time of day romantically.
Again, Iam certainly not an expert when it comes to the thorny issues of love as I am an unmarried man in his forties who has never had a wife or children and currently has no girlfriend.
I don't think I have been on a date in a few years.
Anyway, the only advice I can give is to find people you like and who wont ignore you.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 You're so right on the money with that. They claim me as only Black, but then ignore me romantically, and get furious when they see me with a guy of another race. Finding someone really isnt my top priority right now. I see people on match.com and eharmony and I think they are crazy to spend money, to get hurt again. Most people I converse with now like me for who I am and not for some ulterior motive. I tend to keep my groups very small.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 That's sounds right to me. I have never spent any sizable amount of time on dating or romance and have had very little interest in relationships.
I don't forsee having any relationships with black women.
For one, there arent many where I live.
Secondly, I have always been interested in books and films,history and other subjects not alpha male pursuits like cars, bodybuilding and stuff like that.
Third, i don't think they would like my biracial status.
I guess I prefer books.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Oh wow, are you in the U.S.? I'm not putting Black guys down, but I have never had a positve experience with them, even before I started to define myself as multiracial. They were very verbally abusive to me. I am not saying all Black men are bad but I just don't have luck with them, but that is just me. People talk about how Rashida Jones only dates White guys. My answer is so does Jennifer Aniston but no one is talking about her because she is full White.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 I do live in the US.
I can't blame you for your view of black guys.
I have known a few and got into arguments with a few others. Of course that's different-testosterone in action.
My view is that black guys have to boost their masculinity and wear it like a football jersey.
They aren't the only guys who do that but I do notice that.
As for me, I do like white chicks and asian women, I guess.
I have never gone out with black women so i have no problem with them
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I don't know, the Black guys I were involved with or just around in college in particular were VERY arrogant. Many of them were frat guys and no one could "touch" them. They treated me as if I was not good enough for them. Even though I carried myself well, was a pretty good student. I could have sworn I had a viral plague or something. This one dude found out I liked him and he totally started acting like an asshole. He ignored me and I never even asked this dude out!
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 It sounds more like a college thing to me.
Again,I find that black people want biracials to consider themselves black only and then they want to treat them like garbage.
I think romance is tricky for biracial people at times.
You find people you like but they don't like you because you are biracial.
I guess its hard. Frankly, I haven't dated much in my life. I don't have women banging down my door so I don't have bad experiences.
I find it easier not to date or get involved.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Yeah in high school I was bullied by Blacks, in college I was never considered good enough. I figured well since Blacks are going to treat me like garbage I might as well embrace all of my heritage, either way I am going to get treated like crap! Back in the day I use to tell other Blacks how I hated White people, and I often got told, (by Blacks) how dumb I looked for saying that because my complexion is so light. So I figured let me stop making a fool out of myself.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 As you know, I never grew up among Black people or really white people for that matter.
I never gave much thought about that until I got older.
AT my high school there were maybe a handful of blacks and none of them were my friends.
Why? I think because they weren't in the same circles as me.
There were a think a couple of black students at the college I went to but I largely knew white students there.
Frankly, I didn't get to know whites until college.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 My sister had a different experience than me, she could relate to everyone, but the majority of her friends were White. Me I started off that way but then I was pressured by my mom to start acting Black, so I did, and I went overboard. I rejected Whites who wanted to be friends simply because they liked me, in favor of Blacks, who made fun of me and called me White bitch. For 12 years I tried to fit in the Black community, but failed. But it made me realize who I really am.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Sounds masochistic to me.
From what I see here seems you were pressured by your family to be "black" or given bad advice.
That's mistake #1 in the Black -White biracial handbook I find.
Trying to fit into an AA community as black has its drawbacks as a biracial person.
You will never be entirely accepted as you found out.
Of course that's easy for me to say. I never wanted or had to fit in with black people.
Maybe I shouldn't ask this but were you raised by a single parent.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 No its okay I don't mind sharing, yes I was raised by a single parent, my mom who was Black and part Native American. I realized not only with myself but with other biracial persons who try to fit in with the AA community they make themselves appear as they are trying too hard. They feel that if they try to fit in with Whites then they will be subjected to racism, however they don't realize that the nasty comments made by AA about biracial or "light skin Blacks" are racist too.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 I have found at looking at this issue that often biracials try to fit into the AA community and a number of them are shunned or treated like crap. Others do fairly well but they deny or ignore their ancestry as a whole to fit into the part of what they are.
I never had that experience.
I had two parents and because I didn't live in a black or caucasian neighborhood or area, I didn't have to fit into what those types of people felt I had to be.
I don't need to be "black" that way
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I started growing up in a all Black neighborhood, but I never quite fit in with AA. I was only 3 when "neighbors" wrote White Bitches on my mothers car and our front door in reference to me and my sister. We moved when I was 4 to a predominately White/Latino area. Nearly every school I went to was a Black girl there who I would have issues with. Black people think I am lying about all this so I can "pass" for multiracial, and there's no such thing as racism in the AA community.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 You don't pass for "multiracial" -that's not it works. You pass as a specific race or ethnic group.
A hundred years again, people didn't pass as biracial, they passed as white.
As for the "no racism" part, hahaha!
You can watch videos on youtube that deal with light vs dark blacks.
The sad conclusion I draw is that many blacks simply like living in denial on this issue.
Why try to fit in with people who hate and harass you?
Iam glad I didn't go through that growing up.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I agree. My sister did not experience the hatered from Blacks like I did because she never tried to force herself to fit in with them like I did. She didn't attend a Black college, she didn't pay $2000 to pledge a Black sorority, she didn't try to make Black guys like her, like I did. Therefore while she had racial issues with Blacks, it was not nearly to the degree that I have.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 That's good I guess.
What I find interesting is that people like Where ya Boss and Moni love talk on this forum about biracial people supposedly denying their black side.
They don't have anything to say about situations like yours where black people put you down, shun you and made fun of you because you are biracial.
I have never understood trying to please people who have contempt for you.
The dirty secret is that blacks are just as offended by biracials as whites.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 I also liked what you wrote to Yak6ek about the One Drop Rule being used by black people to their advantage.
You are absolutely right.
Though I didn't grow up around black people, I have met a couple who thought I wasn't black enough or too white seeming.
I just shrugged it off years ago. I figured there are always going to be blacks with attitude.
I realize not everyone can do so.
I think that only way B/W biracials can fit in with blacks is by trying to be black.
How sad.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Yes most of them use it to their advantage. I find it interesting they can reject any other racial discrimination or negative stereotypes but they hold on to ODR like its of value. My problem is Blacks have ALWAYS accused me of not being "black enough" even when I was trying hard to fit in with them. However, when I say I am mixed or multiracial then they want to claim me as Black then! And they say Biracial/Multiracial people are confused? Yeah right!
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 It seems like a Catch 22. You aren't black enough for them but once you say you are biracial or multiracial, they criticize you for trying to evade your blackness even though they don't consider you black in the first place.
No wonder so many b/wbiracials are hurt and traumatized emotionally as kids.
I don't really think you can try to "fit in"in any kind of racial community be it Black or white.
You have to stick to your identity and hope others come around.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 Yeah unfortunately i had to find out the hard way. I am one of those traumatized kids. I paid $2000 to get in a Black sorority who has bullied me the entire time I have been a member. I graduated from a Black college which proves to be hurting me in the job market. All because I am trying to show how Black I am. If I could tell other biracial/multiracial persons to don't waste their time I would. I know have VERY few friends now and probably will always keep it at a minimum.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 Sounds a bit sobering to me.
Again, I notice that all these bigmouths on this forum who tout how biracial people should forget their ethnic mix and just be black aren't responding.
Where are the haters when you need them?LOL
Sadly, Black people just don't want to deal with their own hatred and discrimination toward biracials.
They want to pass it off as simply a white thing.
Well, I'll say this-at least with whites you know where you stand.
They dont pretend to be your ally.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 I noticed that too LOL. Blacks don't want to deal with racism in their own community at all. I had a Black person tell me, when I told him that I was called pale faced bitch and White bitch by Blacks, that is the way Black people are and not racism. HA! Another so called biracial woman flat out told me I was crazy to think there is racism in the Black community, and Blocked me from her video. They think laughing and telling me that I dance White isn't racism, but it is.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 I have noticed that in my ongoing research into biraciality in America.
I get the feeling that you simply can't win with a number of black people.
When I lived on the West Coast, I came across a couple who felt I talked or acted "too white".
When i replied that I was half-white, they didn't have a snappy comeback.
I simply ignored that at the time as the attitudes of a certain percentage of blacks.
Now, Iam not so sure.
For me, it doesn't matter but it is painful for others.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 You can't win, and I had to realize that. They feel by identifying as bi/multiracial is a new way of passing. I'm glad to hear it doesn't bother you and you're not allowing it to affect you in how you choose to identify. It did with me, but instead of feeling sorry for myself, I have learned from my mistakes, and it has encouraged me to push the multiracial movement. I hope that we can become more prominent and vocal in the years to come. We're going to have to fight for it.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
@FSinatra1982 I never had a choice in the matter.
I didn't grow up in either a black or white neighborhood and so i didn't have people demanding that I align myself as one or the other or fit into one type of so-called culture or the other.
So I could only be biracial.
Choosing one race over the other is always an unwinable scenario for the biracial person.
Frankly, I don't tout my biraciality too much.
As a professional, I prefer to let my work do the talking.
Being bi is not passing.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 As a biracial person I feel that the angst you may feel from the Black community (whatever that is because most have European admixture) stems from the fact that they have to struggle so hard to be accepted by mainstream society. They can't claim Whiteness so they are not shielded from the full onslaught of racism directed to people of African descent. If one thing is clear by this story it is that no matter hwo talented or driven you are, White was and is easier.
StormingBlackReign 10 months ago
@StormingBlackReign Yeah but that's common sense. You don't have to be black to understand that this is a white run society.
I wasn't raised in a black community so I didn't feel any "angst" from them growing up.
I do agree with the fact that blacks have struggled to be accepted by mainstream society.
The reality is that trying to be accepted in the mainstream has always been a waste of time.
Biracials will never be accepted by American mainstream society.
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 I disagree with that. Biracial are accepted more readily than supposed pure Blacks ( which hardly any Blacks in the U.S. are pure). I've had a plethora of people tell me that , "oh you're real smart because you're half White." or that, "I can talk to you because you don't have the attitude of most Blacks". Biracial are seen as not completely Black so they are given more of a pass by White society. It doesn't matter the race of man but what he has to offer. Or so I thought.
StormingBlackReign 10 months ago
@StormingBlackReign I cant agree that biracials are accepted in American society.
This has always been a racist society and will continue to be no matter what.
That's one thing you can always set your watch by.
That comments you mention other people lobbed at you seem racist to me.
What i have found In doing research on this matter and the comments made to me on youtube by biracials is that blacks have bigger problem with people being biracial than whites.
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 This is my main account, Stormingblackreign is a sattelite account. I'm not saying that biracials are accepted in White American society with open arms. I've studied history and I've seen where biracials were given certain restricted priveleges that Blacks were not given. Even most recently within the Black community light skinned people were thought to be better than dark skinned Blacks. I'm not saying that it is wrong for biracials to identify as such. To each his own.
babiesboy1933 10 months ago
@babiesboy1933 As someone who is biracial and looked into the history and issues that people like me face, I don't have and never had have any interest in being "accepted" by American society.
All I want is to be able to practice my profession, live my life and be left alone.
You don't need to love me or like me-just don't bother or harass me.
I have never needed to be understood or to be accepted.
Biracials will never be accepted in this society-those are the facts.
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 I'm biracial myself. My father was Black and my mother is White. I'm speaking from personal experience. I'm 15 and a sophmore in HS, I also identify solely as Black because I look more Black than White and I am accepted more openly by Blacks than Whites.
babiesboy1933 10 months ago
@babiesboy1933 What's your point here?
You seem to be contracing yourself in these posts.
You say here that you identify as black (whatever the hell that means) yet you kept making the points in previous posts that you are biracial.
You also say here that you are accepted by blacks more than whites but you earlier made the point that whites accept biracials more than blacks.
I don't know if you are the same person diferent account or not but you are not logically consistent.
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 I'm about as logical and consistent as racism. There is no logic or consistency behind it all. Take our history for instance. First miscegenation was not illegal, then it became illegal, now it is legal. How do you pass a law when it comes to life and love? What is the logic behind it? I am accepted by Blacks because of how I look. I am also accepted by Whites because of their perception of what I am. Maybe when I get older I will adopt your stance. Life is hardly logic.
babiesboy1933 10 months ago
@babiesboy1933 Actually Racism is to a certain extent a rational phenomena and thus logical.
Jim Crow was largely consistent and therefore logical.
Also, your point on miscegenation makes no sense.
Laws are and have been passed dealing with love and thus "life" in this country.
Gays are or are not allowed to marry or engage in civil union ceremonies in various parts of this country.
Young man, I don't know what you want from me.
Biracials have contacted me to tell of their experiences.
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 Well for me, racism is certainly not logical. Especially when you have people who are able to cross the color line. Race to me suggest a deeper meaning. The laws against gays are illogical to me as well. It hasn't curbed homosexuality, but made those who are second class citizens or try to pass as straight. I don't know what I want out of you..........a kindred spirit perhaps or someone to validate these emotions awakening inside of me.
babiesboy1933 10 months ago
@babiesboy1933 I'm curious-what emotions are these that are awakening inside of you?
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 it's hard to verbalize especially to someone who I don't know if I completely trust. I remember being 8 yos. and going to school on the bus. I remember telling some kid, a white kid older than me, that I was Black and White. i remember him getting angry about it and attacking me and choking me. I was shocked, angry, and I had a feeling of shame.
babiesboy1933 10 months ago
@babiesboy1933 I understand that such incidents in your past elicit pain and if you do not wish to discuss specific incidents that is entirely up to you.
As you can see on this page and another-which name I forget at this time-some biracials (or people who say they are-no one can confirm this stuff online) have expressed their thoughts, feeling and incidents relating to their biraciality.
I don't like sunshine saccarine stuff but these forums confirm that people like you and me are not alone.
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
@MultiSmartass1
I agree with you, I'm a very light skinned biracial guy but I've still encountered racism from whites, been called a monkey once and been followed around in stores, and a bunch of white kids even told me once that I was black even though I tried to tell them I wasn't so you are very right
gatheringleaves 10 months ago
@gatheringleaves Interesting. You are one of the one few biracials who has talked about white racism against biracials.
Most tell me about black racism which isnt as known or ballyhooed in the media.
Sounds like what you went through is pretty de rigeur and is pretty much expected when you are a black/white biracial.
Based on what I have been told and my research thus far, it seems that whites simply dislike biracials whereas black feel threatened.
Where do you live? Are whitesthat way?
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
so this means italians are black because they look darker than this woman!
italyspaingreece666 1 year ago
RACISTS STFU
wshu20 1 year ago
I don't care. Most ppl here think I'm Puerto Rican but if someone asks, I tell them I'm black and white, or say I'm 75% white and 25% black (as far as I know), if they don't like it, that's their problem.
CraigBarduk 1 year ago
17% is more than one drop. Her father was a lot more!
drpreatorius 2 years ago 2
There were no white people on the face of the earth before 13,000 years ago. And you time is already running out.
KusanagiSyuSai 2 years ago 5
@KusanagiSyuSai,
Geez! I don't think I've ever met a person like you who's more than 13,000 years old enough to know when whites weren't around. Congratulations! What's your secret to staying alive so long?
americanpatriot00 1 year ago
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@KusanagiSyuSai
hey, stupid nigger, whites evolved 30,000 years ago, not 13000, and you black faggot monkey will be next on the list of extinction when whites stop feeding you and giving you aids medicine.
yuri60014 1 year ago
I think it's so funny that these videos about people denying their black side always has Biracial Tiffany's videos connected to them. LOL. I can't stop laughing.
WhereYaBoss 2 years ago
For me,Yak, I make my point a couple of times then move on.I dont waste my time/energy on them.They have been human for 250,000 year&have nothing to show, for example, no writing.How can u have intelligent discourse with that.Indeed, their inventors in USA have all been mulattoes.LOL.Most blacks are best known for entertainment: sports,sex (donkey dicks),cannon fodder in wars,noisy music.Let us enjoy them for what they can do&lets not hold them to standards they cant reach.That would be cruel
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
@johnpurple1000
actually in west africa there is documented proof that we have the oldest text in history and empires as well.You should learn more about our people before you try to speak ill of us.
Darkness8Random 2 years ago
Yak, I am neither white nor half black, and I am not afraid to use the word Nigger when it is appropriate, but I am mulatto. I just dont see how one should use this vile word indiscriminately, and it does have its place. Also, I am a nice guy
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
mulatto is half black fool.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
Actually, mulatto is a term used to identify all individuals of black and white ancestry whatever their degree of black or white ancestry. More specifically, it defines a person who has one black and one white parent. The term mulatto is used all over the Americas in the former fashion mostly so the latter descriptor would also, by definition meet that criterion. Hope this fool has enlightened you!!!
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
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eww ur still nigger
chikflick101 2 years ago
Bliss is just another igornant woman. Her father is ignorant as well. How can you be ashamed of yours, ours, my black history. After blacks have been stripped from our culture and put in an environment where hate is really aimed at us. And for bliss to say she feels more connected to the black american story after the fact that she finds out thats she is black is ridiculous. She's stupid. bBack history is still american history, why couldnt she have a "deep" connection when she was just white.
monilove118 2 years ago
How is she ignorant?
yak6ex 2 years ago
@monilove118 Blacks don't have a culture. Africans have their specific cultures. Black people have an African-American subculture which has developed from their presence and activitity in the Americas. The majority of Black people know nothing about Africans or their heritage. As for Bliss, she has to a certain extent , black ancestry through her father. The fact she feels an obvious connection through her roots is logical. Your position is just plain stupid.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
yes Barack is white, but saying he is not black is ridiculous. Especially since he has a strong educated black wife who brought him 75% black children who if they have children with a black man would create 80% black children.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
wow
might read the book! :)
fanofitsonalexachung 2 years ago
why is there such a negative conotation when it comes to the word black?? The hard core fact is if you have any sort of African ancestry your ass is black.....period. The oldest human fossils were found it Africa. What does that tell you?? You can fight it all you want to but before you smack your gums simply do the research. If we were living in 1850 and this information had just come out she would have been picking cotton just like the rest of the nigras' in the cotton fields.
rosieparez 2 years ago
That is Bullshit Why does the AA community embrace the one drop rule or "the one drop of black your ass is black"..as stated by this persons comment. Are AA's afraid that there will no longer be a so called "unified Black Community"?
greenly100 2 years ago
that rule was not started by black people, but by the slave masters to say that only pure white people were considered superior.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
Yes, the only thing you have said that makes sense is your comment about one-drop. So, if you know that the rule is racist, why then would you choose to perpetuate it. You are a black racist and even more vile than white racists because you should know better
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
I just say its funny how Tiger suddenly is called multi racial after he wins the Masters instead of before.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
After the Masters, he had clout. Whites live in fear and trepidation about what they call anyone. I am not sorry for them; its bad karma, but blacks are behaving the same way. Tiger is not Black, neither is Halle Berry and millions more. Obams is proud of both sides, as I understand it, and if he did not, I would care zero. He is a politician, and would never have one had he defined as multi-racial: blacks would never vote for a multiracial.
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
Tiger is black and Halle is black too. you can say multiracial or part black, but the fact is black is mentioned. With Halle she mainly identifys as black and you wouldnt know she was white until you see her mother. Obama, yes he is proud of both sides, but he identifys himself as black 1st. What do they have in common? They all the top people in areas where black people are not dominate in and done things no other black person has done (win masters, be president, oscar for lead woman).
burtontsu09 2 years ago
your comments make no sense. What do they all have in common--white blood. And you biracial hating black nazis cant change that. You have no right to define anyone else. If you do, the word Nigger comes to mind.
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
Blacks didn't invent the one drop of black blood rule, whites did.
yak6ex 2 years ago 13
@yak6ex Very true. Whites invented one drop rule, jim crow and all othe racist laws and constructs in this country.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
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@yak6ex
fuck you, nigger.
yuri60014 1 year ago
@yak6ex Nope Blacks didn't invent the one drop rule, but they are sure holding on to it like a million dollars. If Blacks can reject racism, segregation, and other Jim Crow racist laws, why not reject the one drop rule? No Blacks will never reject it because they are using it to their own advantage.
FSinatra1982 1 year ago
I KNOW THAT and if im correct i mentioned that. However like I said, all 3 except Tiger identify as black first. I didnt say it, they did. If you as Obama, the first thing he calls himself is African American.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
Really, your points are lost in your inarticulateness. I do not know what you are trying to say. Obama says he is African American; it is his right. Truth is that if he described himself as anything else, you USA Negroes would lynch him. It is a pity that he has to deny his mother to have gotten the presidency. It is a bad example for America, and future generations will understand why but disapprove of what he did. I hope he is a great president, though. USA needs him.
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
no we would not lynch him. Personally, as long as he does not forget his black side, its fine with me. As long as he does not deny that he is part African American, It does not matter which one. And stop saying negroes.
burtontsu09 2 years ago 2
you know full well Obama has not deneid his mother.........
mronelove 2 years ago
USA Negroes?
chanteuseCrystal 2 years ago
In the USA, anyone with identifiable black ancestry will be forced to identify as black or will not succeed. If Woods is the exception, it is the exception that proves the rule. The Black Gestappo Racial Police in USA are alive and well
johngold1000 2 years ago 2
@johnpurple1000 Finally, a person with some sense on this page besides me. I notice the people here with biggest problem with biracials seem to be black. It just confirms my research. That doesn't keep whites off the hook by any means but it seems they either accept or reject you out of hand whereas balcks accept you only on certain conditions. Having grown up in neither white or black neighborhoods, they both dont matter to me.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@johnpurple1000 I tend to agree with your comments. As they said in STAR WARS:"Who is more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?"
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@greenly100 You hit the nail on the head. It is a statistical and cultural set of anxieties based within many black communities. A number of black people work against the interests of bi-racials by trying to delegitimize bi-racials, I have found in my readings and research. Forced to acept the one drop rule by whites in the past, blacks cling to this as a marker of black purity-either racially or culturally-and pride.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
I am reading her book now very interesting.
TGW5555 2 years ago
this should make alot of people relize that looks can be a trick
Sosodefrep 2 years ago 7
@Sosodefrep I could look and tell she has Black in her.
u2hubbard 1 year ago
hes not black did you see his picture?"..lol and so what, what does that mean? so we define black simply by how one looks, there is a heavy social aspect to race, check out sandra laing, the blackest whit girl I ever saw
Fuzzbabby 2 years ago
its a legacy, obviously broyard hid the fact that he was black, so he could succeed. you guys are color struck and thats it, you can have two black people who have the similar ancestry and one can be extremely fair and one can be very brown, broyard was indeed black, no less black by ancestry than collin powell, nona gaye, jimmy hendrix bob marley,.
Fuzzbabby 2 years ago
these COLOR struck people are astonishing at their old ages they still don't get it , you can compare a social realm of reality to a banana its food, its doesn't work that way. Because for example the average African American has 20% non black ancestry, 80% certainly isnt 100% percent. and yet they are black your banana theory is pointless. to be African American does not mean you will have no white ancestry.
Fuzzbabby 2 years ago
actually your stats are backwards. it was just found that most african americans have 73% African ancestry.
DaliSalvadorAde 2 years ago
you should read my comment again here is an exact quote "the average African American has 20% non black ancestry"
Fuzzbabby 2 years ago
Mr Broyard was not Black.He was a Creole and Mulatto.Not all People of African Descent identify as African Americans He was Mixed Race,just as much White as black.White America Labels People as they see fit.The One drop rule is a Racist instrument that furthers the cause of alienation.Creoles Are not African Americans.Broyard was not passing.White America seems to always find ways to catagorize and sterotype .The Man didn't reveal his Heritage and why should he? It's nobody's business but his
augustinecomeaux 2 years ago 3
Thank you!
proudcreole 2 years ago
uh, mulatto is half black, and creole is part black. so he is black. not full, but black non the less.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
He's not black can't You see his picture ?...Simply because You want to make him black does not make him black...Stop playing the Race cards...He's mixed Race with African Heritage so why not leave it at that...Why, Why, Why are You trying to force Your way on him...You cannot place a label on someone else to suite the status quo..Since when does half a Banana make a Whole? ...use your math..
augustinecomeaux 2 years ago
what!? mulatto is part black. you obviously didnt read my text. Thats like saying Barack Obama( who is mulatto) is not black. read your facts.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
Mulatto is part white. Therefore, Obama is white. LOL
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
Obamas not black? Have you not seen his father? Do you not notice his fade or his name. You have to be kidding me.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
Obama's not white? Have you not seen his mother? Do you notice his hair texture or his name, Barrack Hussein. You have to be kidding me?
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
bonehead, Barrack Hussein are African names. not white. yes his moms white, I know that. But if you ask him, he identifies as black. he has a black wife, black children, and lives mostly around black people o the Southside of Chicago. Dont get mad because Barack is proud of his African heritage.
burtontsu09 2 years ago
Neither Barrack nor Hussein originated in Africa. Either way, so what. Moreover, I did not say that Obama was white: I was responding facetiously to a damn fool comment that because his father was black, he was black. My response to the fool was: his mother is white so that makes him white.
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
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yak6ex 2 years ago
your just as ignorant as bliss. hair texture and names have nothing to do with ethinicty. your simple minded and very naive. you make me laugh.
monilove118 2 years ago
Typical negro u. If you do not agree, you are stupid.Her father had every right to his beliefs & opinions as are you to yours.Most non-blacks in US have no connection with your black history, except that we feel sorry for you.U are in USA because your ancestors sold you.African political & social culture would destroy USA; pity that you did not stay in Africa to practice your black culture there.Why dont you appreciate white culture: it took you away from a backward and corrupt continent.
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
Your right black I.Q.s are so low that Africa will never look like Japan or France(advanced). Mexico is only one step above Africa, both very primitive.
yak6ex 2 years ago
I am optimistic that Africans will eventually overcome their not very distinguished history. I do not believe in the concept of the IQ, nor do I believe the Mexico is one-step above Africa. That is a tad exaggerated. France itself, a country I love, is a little bit of a has-been nation. Does that mean that French IQ is lower today than yesterday?
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
No black nation has ever been truly great.
yak6ex 2 years ago
That is not entirely true. South of Egypt a black nation became great and ruled over Egypt. I believe it was the 15th dynasty but I may be wrong on that. Ethiopia and Sudan have amazing histories as well. As for the rest of Africa, I concur. However, north Africa and the mid-East which are in many ways "mixed " nations do have quite a set of accomplishments
johnpurple1000 2 years ago
@johnpurple1000 Iam not pessimistic about African nations. I have met a few Africans in my day and I like them far better than many American blacks. A number of these value education and work and don't make a lot of excuses. As for the Africa/Mexico crack, how can you compare an entire continent to one nation. As for France, it clearly is one of the leading European nations partly due to government investment in industry and business.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
Yes he did have a right but it's sad that he had to pass.
yak6ex 2 years ago
yak, you are just one bad thinking dude. Yes, yes. It is so sad that mulattoes have to pass as black to get ahead in black racist America. If Obama had said he was biracial, the Negroes would have dumped him and voted for the white guy instead. And God forbid.Obama should have had a white wife and produced white looking kids, the Negroes would have assasinated him for misceginating with whites. The blacks can be such hypocrites
johnpurple1000 2 years ago