Big Cam Cummins Cold Start

[hage28]

i want this truck is it for sale?

[wolff989]

how did that truck get up there

[danwat1234]

I like how there's no sound! Awesome not

[2qkunrew]

u got it up there, now i wanna see u get it down

[enforcer41]

I used to drive quite a few NTC motor trucks which wern't too happy starting on cold mornings especially the air starts. One of them got addicted to Aerostart !!!

[1021greg]

you park up there so some idiot big strapper doesn't come alongdrag his trailer across the hood

[caramellkidd95]

parking a truck there, skills. nice parking spot

[5153john]

y park a truck up there

[dexterr88]

Hey need info on a big cam 475 twin turbo, my 359 has one

[CoolHandLuke43]

I can hear it

[realcattleman]

could you upload this again so we can hear it?

[sp00ktube]

Is that leaves on the trees, how cold of a start was this?

[OttovonEarth]

Seems I invented a new tense (know, knew, known) for the English language (well-known?) .. but whaddafuck, send me your money if you gonna use it (no receipt)

[dmonat]

You're supposed to back UP to the dock not ON to the dock XD

[frankrizzooo]

Somebody played a trick on you and put your rig up on the shelf LOL

[icu123abc]

Thought it was going to be one of those jokes that make you turn your speakers up, then, BAM!!...

[LibertaerUeberAlles]

Looks like you'd have to be pretty sober to park it there.

[ordep72]

I think I've gone deaf I can't hear anything help :(

[Junkeycss]

yes weird spot for a truck but the video dont have song lol

[gittyupalice96]

no sound?? no dammit

[Goldengoat23]

@gittyupalice96 It did have sound. Not sure what happened there.

[gittyupalice96]

@Goldengoat23 ah, re-load the vid then.  you-tube error probably

[PROJECT89PRIME]

@Goldengoat23 COPYRIGHT CLAIMING BASTARDS >:(

[shooterman619]

@Goldengoat23 maybe it sounded like lady gaga

[paintballer211]

damn i wanted to hear it

[Hotrodx199]

What the hell happened to the sound???

[chip19798]

no sound

[SeaDollarsBertram]

you can actually convert a big cam 1 to a big cam 4.

[blobby1972]

start on 1 firing 2 its a go on 3 and 5 ,6 .7, come on 8 come on corrrrrrrrmmmmmmmooooooooooooo­nnnnnnnnnnner bang bang puff puff arr yes its a go on 8 and we have power .

[mrspenn1611]

I used to drive an ERF Artic in the UK, this had a 'Cummins NTE Big Cam 14 ltr engine, that thing would start in any weather and run like a well oiled sewing machine, very fast too before the UK had to start doing what Europe wanted and govened all the HGV to 56mph, I quit driving truck shortley there after.

[Steebod]

2 stroke?

[dds4042]

how the hell did that truck get up there? lolol

[rhysdalegend]

@dds4042 it fell

[autolover3]

from north dakota. damn cold up hear too.

[thozvocalz]

i know wat u mean mann lol,sounds sooo gudd

[fanofCOH]

my ear just had a orgasm

[107brad]

come to canada up here we do cold starts-30 running the around the closck at -45 to -50 c

[hoffibullar]

and we Swedish pepole complain when it is over -30

[454sskilla]

can somone tell me if a turbo off a 1988 mack truck will fit on these turbo diesel trucks "cummins powerstroke or duramax

[TrendyInGreen]

Yea bro sound good to me.

Make a video and post it if you complete the task

[jstett1]

if it is a holset it can fit on a cummins. depends on the Cubic inches

[joegfjh]

ahhhh

*drools*

listen to them turbos spool up!

[hawk4174]

Why an how'd the get it up there?

I would've taken the side of the building off if I tried!

[anthonytrombley]

wtf y the hell is it up there?!?!?!?

[hondarider100r]

lol

[supressorgrid]

Good way to clear pidgeons from under your roof.

[michaelovitch]

1.42 is the timing injection pump ?

if it's that it's really advanced no?

[jakebrake05]

no its a big cam 1. and 42 degrees

[michaelovitch]

ok

thanks.

[mike198748]

being in the cold is no different than being in the heat, it just depends on what your used to and you dress accordingly

[oilfield666]

it effects the truck big time being in the cold...not only will it not fire with cold air, the 15w40 in most diesels can get so thick you cant even pour it out of the jug....think about a crank shaft having to spin in that...then you got your transmission oil...thick enough to drop the rpms by the hundreds when you let that clutch go. my poor 3116 cat powered topkick has no chance of starting in this -35c temp unless i break out the tiger torch

[MRkallek91]

that is very very true!

same this morning with our 6.2 diesel chevy, just wouldnt idle right even after 10 minutes of running it. was -24c

[KB3MMX]

Replace with Synthetic oil in the winter and cranking with molasses oil will be a thing of the past !! Cranking speed and oil flow in the winter will be similar to summertime with 15W-40 Dino oil !!

[oilfield666]

LOL not anytime soon....15w40 wont be getting any thinner anytime soon unless you can redesign the diesel engine to require tighter clearances that need the thinner oils.

[KB3MMX]

**Synthetic 15W-40 doesn't turn to MOLASSES consistency in the winter(unlike conventional oils) thus allowing faster oil flow and easier starting.

[oilfield666]

i dunno what your idea of winter is, i got a gmc topkick here with synthetic and if its not plugged in im not going to get it started...thats with 2 1000+ cca batteries. 0w40 get thick when cold enough

[KB3MMX]

Simple fact is that it takes MUCH colder weather to start to thicken a synthetic oil. Is -40F cold enough? at -40F a conventional won't even pour where a synthetic will. I hope you don't have a 3126(C7) series Cat in that topkick! What's your idea of winter?? Are you using a true Group IV/PAO oil?

[oilfield666]

its a 3116..my idea of a winter at its best is -50 with or without windchill. in the 1993 topkick im running rotella synthetic 0w40 and the other is using sythetic 15w40..even when its -30 those trucks lug trying to start. im not saying its as bad as conventional oil..if you look back i mention synthetic being a good choice to run during winters due to the fact your diesel will start better..but what i said here, is that even synthetic 15w40 as mentioned will thicken. tiger torch is always handy

[KB3MMX]

True, at -50F , even a synthetic is approaching it's pour limit. The Rotella "Synthetic" is a hydrocracked group III oil. Give som Delvac 1 or Amsoil a try sometime! The true PAO/Group IV base oils outperform Group III Hydrocracked oils like Rotalla "Synthetic" and Castrol "Syntec". Sounds like you enjoy the cold temps too! Keep that torch handy

Have you had any luck keeping the valvetrain together in the 3116 Cat after alot of mileage?

[oilfield666]

i dont mind the cold... id prefer not to drive the trucks in the cold but im in a pinch for time, crushing over 70 cars soon and im still hauling in more, one truck has a 19ft jerdan aluminum deck with wheel lift and the other is my toy with 7000lb picker, loaded with my cutting torches and miller 302 welder.

[KB3MMX]

Damn, sounds like you're pretty busy! I love the cold but -50F all the time would get old working outside loading and unloading all the time. What anti-gel product do you preffer?

[oilfield666]

i use FPPF Polar Power in the trucks, havent froze up yet. when i was working in the oil patch running heavy equipment we used the same stuff aswell.

[KB3MMX]

I used to use FPPF white bottle conditioner and had good luck with it. I'm running their Cetane 8+ stuff right now but will give the Polar Power a try. Thanks!

[oilfield666]

in the summer i tried out Cetane 8+ in a 98 dodge 3500 with 12v cummins.. didnt really notice much of a difference. however adding Lucas semi-synthetic 2stroke oil to the diesel in that gave me noticable power, along with more smoke out the pipe...also ran quieter

[KB3MMX]

Interesting, I noticed a reduction of black unburnt fuel smoke and increased response when I run LEVEL 4(+225hp) on the PPE Programmer using the Cetane 8+ additive... I have been using some 2 stroke oil in the fuel lately after reading a good article in diesel power about it. So far I've seen a MPG increase with the 2 Stroke oil and it seems to run a touch better, not to mention it lubricates the injection system better with it. (1QT per tank is my dosage)

[oilfield666]

i read the same artical in diesel power. i originally got the idea from a cummins forum, people were using 2stroke oil in the trucks and getting gains from it in both power and mpg. i like the fact i get the added lube to the injector pump, do all i can as they can get costly to replace....also another thing that really helped the engine during a fuel filter change was filling the new filter bowl with straight SeaFoam injector cleaner then starting it on that. my way of cleaning diesel injectors

[lissasbob]

haha yea havent been that cold but still

[buntik1687]

Try cold start in Bangor, Maine.

[patriotsfz]

yeah i live in maine to. funny our cold start is like 0 theirs is 55 60 degrees.

[Dieselpowerkid]

can u feel any extremities when its that cold??!

[Canadian1655]

Depends. You get used to it. If you're wearing a lot of layers you're good for a while. When I was working this past winter, the thermometre at my work read -38. Things freeze instantly!

[skilz93]

for awhile yes but when the skin gets cold blood vesselsstart to constrict and the body uses it in the vital areas like the chest and brain and when that starts to happen it hurts like hell

[lissasbob]

yea but not as bad when you start to warm back up then it hurts like a b****!

[UncleBubbles94]

ya think?! i've had to go outside when its -55 without the wind chill to feed cattle on an open station tractor and i wear 4 layers of gloves with leather wind breakers and after about a half an hour i cant feel my hands or feet or ears. and when they are defrosting that hurts like a mother f*****

[alexgonick]

lol damn hate to have to move it off that loading dock lol

[kcole939]

Bragging about living in desolate wasteland where it's cold enough, that gasoline will start to form ice crystals, is pretty stupid. I'd rather it be 70 degrees, partly cloudy with a slight breeze. Lol.

[blade80316]

@kcole939 agreed

[trunkbangking]

@kcole939 i think it takes diesel not gasoline

[kcole939]

@trunkbangking I was not talking about the truck in this video. Don't worry, I have enough common sense to know that it's a Diesel.

How about you stop worrying about what everyone else says. Better yet, read things first. Either way, Diesel fuel gels up.

[punkngoth]

@kcole939 not gas diesel gels

[kcole939]

@punkngoth Wow, do you guys read before you want to blurt something out on Youtube, to seem informative?

In my previous comment, I said, "Either way, Diesel fuel gels up." Have you honestly ever been around a Diesel truck in real life?

[kiefer1234566767]

@kcole939 diesel gells at a certian point just which degress and is made and designed for the climate to be used in like summer and winter fuel and arctic fuel

[kcole939]

@kiefer1234566767 Once again, do you guys read, before you attempt to be a Youtube mechanic?

Here you go, a quote from my previous comment, regarding Diesel fuel gelling up.

"In my previous comment, I said, "Either way, Diesel fuel gels up."

[CBRRiderr]

@kcole939 its diesel

[kcole939]

@CBRRiderr Jesus fucking christ. Would you rejects start reading before you post. Just once, you fucking imbecile?

This discussion is nearly a year old. Some guy from Canada or whatever was bragging about being a tough guy in the cold, so I said that it does not make sense to brag about living in a place where gasoline freezes.

I never said anything about the truck in this video being gas. I've been around trucks enougn in my life to know what a fucking Diesel is. Check out my channel.....

[sugarsticksmack]

@kcole939 hey jeremy clarkson, calm down hahaha, i read you talking about gasoline in a vid about a diesel. i love you too hahaha jeeze loweazel!

[kcole939]

@sugarsticksmack That's why it's always neat to read a couple comments back.

[sugarsticksmack]

@kcole939 diesel gels up you silly. did you read the title...CUMMINS. you are forgiven, but go and sin no more

[kcole939]

@sugarsticksmack Jesus fucking christ.. You little inbreds.. Read what the fuck I'm saying. I told the guy that it's stupid to live in a place cold enough where gasoline can freeze. NOT that the truck in this video is gasoline. One of my best friends has a 12V 5.9 Cummins, do you think I have no knowledge of them?

Quit being so fucking lazy, and read about what's going on. Read the title of a few of my videos, of my friend's truck. CUMMINS Diesel.

[quarvis]

@kcole939 70, partly cloudy with a slight breeze.........where??

[kcole939]

@quarvis A lot of places.

[shayynn09]

its a gorgeous sound mate.

[FordsSuck95]

how cold was it my 85 kenworth starts right up at 0 but it smokes like hell

[NinjofGinj]

We just dont get rigs like that over here.shame.

[343FirNaTine]

that's a weird ass spot for a truck lol

[LoganPowers]

i know right!

[Noobixide]

lol

[BlindDogFulton]

Alright... Can anyone tell me what that weird sound was in the Road Warrior when Max cold-started that freightliner in the desert? Was that an air compressor?

[Idigindirt]

That truck had a air starter, not a electric starter. they sound wicked..

[BlindDogFulton]

Huh... That way battery power isn't an issue. Clever.

[290cummins]

but air pressure is

[bigchevy80]

Yeah then air pressure is an issue and the only way to jump start a truck with an air starter is with another truck or with an air compressor.

[spencnaz]

Check out the vid of my diesel pusher bus, it's got an air starter.

[deeandzo]

descent start,nice truck

[Hotrodx199]

love the big cam 1's. dad drove a 70s w900a with 8" straight stacks and it wasn't too bad up until you put the jake brake on.

[bigkw]

Loves me an old 444 like that. Smooth as hell and BALLSY!! Drove a 99 KW with a CAT 425 18 spd. Triple digits?? Yeah it would do that, but I was too scared to try it. I always think of worst case scenarios, and back it down. Too much risk at high speeds. One front end blow out at that speed and it could mean a meeting with the grim reaper.

[ExclusiveLook]

Awesome! Cool Video!

[texaco23]

yeah my dad use to drive a 1987 Kenworth W900B with a 425 Cat, and a 15 spd. double over that rig rocked!

[trkr27]

why not very good?

[s172mch]

cuz there easy to work on but just old technology

and not much hp

and if its mated with a 10 speed its a damn terrible truck

10 speeds are satan to me

[trkr27]

so what do you run and how much horse power does it have?

[dueltruck700]

lol same my favorite is an 18 spd or 13

[Hotrodx199]

the regular 10 speeds wernt much of an issue. the super 10's i think are junk. The only thing i cared about the super 10's were the Overdrive howl. thats it! too bad the regular 10 speeds dont have that.. If i was to pick a transmission to be on a play truck i think i migh get the RTO-12513 speed. I liked the howl on them, sounded sweet. Thats one of the reasons i would get the 12513. But realistically i would get like a 5+3 or a combo like that.

[gregmtz25]

yo no conosco 1 motor 335 big cam dime donde lo puedo ver

[Dirtbikeracer250]

A small cam cummins is just as good as a big cam the only difference is that a small cam is louder its doesnt get as good of fuel mileage as a big cam and it had more torque than a big cam

[Chadellac1]

Great looken A-model !!!!! I got one too

[Hotrodx199]

the big cam series was the probally the best engine that cummins ever came out with. The KTA Cummins were cool too. Todays cummins engines dont have much flavor when it comes to sound.

[tpvalley]

Big cam?

some engines have a high lift/duration cam or is this modified?

will a big cam not cause engine to loose low rpm torque? can u really take advantage of high rpm on such a diesel without extensive balancing etc?

[trkr27]

big cam is referring to the base circle diameter of the cam. big cams have a 2 inch diameter vs. a small cam motor with a 1 inch. and are not interchangeable. so the big cam is the same rpm range but with the big cam series, the motor can put more fuel in the same amount of time, basically. more power less smoke. oh yeah the injector is run by a third lobe on the camshaft so more lift was added to the injector lobe.

[tpvalley]

if its the same rpm range then why does it get more fuel (actually air, pump does the fuelling)? it must be higher lift?

[trkr27]

easy more fuel = more hp. since these engines are limited to 2100 rpm, to get more power they increase torque, more torque more hp at the same rpm range. factory wise the small cams stopped a 400 hp the big cams went to 475hp. the newer N14 's went to 525hp

[tpvalley]

yes but u can increase power with fuelling regardless of cam, if the cam effects the power, it must have a different lift or duration, see what I mean?

[trkr27]

I do know what you mean and yes you can. but first, forget every thing you know of a gas car engine. here you are dealing with a turbo charged direct fuel injected diesel engine. you can increase power with more fuel. more fuel = more exhaust, more exhaust = more air from the turbo spinning faster. your question of needing more cam lift and duration for more air is taken care of by the turbo. but in the BC4 they did add lift to the exhaust lobe.

[tpvalley]

So in fact the cam makes no difference to performance and the big cam motors just have different fuelling and boost.

I tune diesels myself, the area of fancy cams is a new dimension as diesels dont rev very high, so making more power with a cam is an artform as u cant have long durations so the shape is the key and the lift.

Thats what I was trying to find out.

[trkr27]

in a nut shell yes, the timing of the cam has a lot to do with it also. the more the power the slower the timing should be, like a big cam 290 335 350 400 all use the same cam, the timing just gets latter. and the turbos gets better.

[jorge330823]

actually small cams stopped at 425 and u could actually special order a 450 small cam but who would waste the time. the big cam only gave you more tourque and a faster speed climb in a 15 speed. not a huge difference but yah the n-14s are really really easy to maintain and great engines. the only shitty thing is is the turbo. some seals went bad at factory and eventually ppl got oil in their turbos...but yah cummins is great but i like detroit..better fuel mileage if u ask me

[trkr27]

that was the magnum series, small cams last ditch effort that lasted 2 seconds i think. and I agree on the beter fuel econ.

[Hotrodx199]

my dad had a 84 western star, bone stock it was putting out around 400. But then he turned the injetion pump up so it would put out 475. Insead of 4.5 mpg, he got around 5.5-6.

[s172mch]

it was a 435 n-14

never get a 10 speed

[mrspivvy]

hell, a driver would get SHOT for getting 5.5-6 mpg here in UK! our company wants a fleet average of 10.5, running 420hp scanias

[FordGuy100]

But how much are you guys pulling with your trucks? That might make a difference, but 6mpg over here is good from what I've been reading.

[mrspivvy]

yes that's a good point, I don't know what sort of weight you run at either.here it tends to be 38 or 44 tons(98000 pounds)max depending on how many axles, when obviously you won't get good economy due to weight, prob only 8.5 mpg. Our firm's average weight is only 25-30 tons hence the better economy

[mrspivvy]

and of course the US gallon is slightly smaller than the UK one.

[FordGuy100]

Yeah, I didnt even think about the difference between the US gallon and the imperial gallon, that would probably equate for most of it.

[32bitcal]

The US gallon is equal to 4 litters, where as the imperial gallon is equal to 4.5 litters.

So if you have a 10.5mpg (imperial gallons) average, that's 47.25 litters.

If you use US gallons, its only 42 litters.

Hopes this helps.

[1000yardshot]

actually a us gallon is equal to only 3.785 liters.

[crabbtrux]

Dear oh dear. The reason these are called, and had, a 'big cam' is PURELY becasuse these were the first mass produced truck engines to have what is now called common rail injection. For the first time in a truck, there was no timed fuel pump. There was a bulk pressure feed to the injectors, and the cam drove the injectors to both raise the pressure to injection pressure, and inject. Because of the loading on the camshaft to do this, they had to engineer a bigger diameter cam, for strength.

[tpvalley]

good, a full answer.

[1958johndeere620]

I thought the 2 stroke detroits had the same thing. The cam also runs the injectors in those.

[Paulsimon8]

Good old Pressure Timed fuel system :D

[OttovonEarth]

@crabbtrux ":Dear oh dear. The reason these are called, and had, a 'big cam' is PURELY becasuse these were the first mass produced truck engines to have what is now called common rail injection."

Dear oh dear.. I drove a Sisu truck powered by Cummins (C370) the first time in 1981. Cummins is well knowed by its camshaft operated Unit Injectors - nothing to do with the common rail system.

[gregdog550]

thats a nice old truck i wish they still made them like that

[stratotanker518]

That truck sounds badass.

[Vista0009]

How old is this truck?

[Vista0009]

Sorry about my last comment,I forgot to look at the video discription...

[DX91001]

Fuel pump timing at its best...

[Isaiah402831]

nice man 5*!

[tgardone]

Nice start