Erhman repeatedly states that these 'revelations' of biblical errancy are in no way new: they're actually *taught* in seminaries and colleges worldwide. For you to gloss this is simply malfeasance and a complete FAIL on your part, not his.
Ehrman almost universally begins all his debates by insisting he used to be a born-again, that he saw MASSIVE (not apparent but MASSIVE) contradictions relevant to Christian beliefs that cannot be reconciled, then highlights his own views that the bible is unreliable.
Then he goes off about his credentials and reading originals in Greek, mentions we don't have the original copies, and affirms all this as if NOBODY ELSE in his field could ever disagree with him.
Dude, sorry to say this, but you make no sense! Fyi, if muslims quote Dr. Ehrman, they do so to affirm their position that this bible is not the word of god based on its textual structure and history. In other words, Dr. Ehrman, a learned expert in the subject, is a third party examiner of the facts. Even though he began his life as a devoted christian. Based on scholarship, he concurred with the islamic position regarding the bible, yet he is not a muslim.
It's funny that Ehrman claims he cant comment about the Quran because he is no scholar. You dont have to be! If one book cant be divine because of some standards, then it goes for another book as well based on the same standards. Fact is that we dont have the original Quran since Uthmann burnt the originals. So therefore, by Ehrman's standards, the Quran cant be divine. But Ehrman doesnt go there since he knows he will have to be under survailance if he does. Muslims dont exactly "pray for u".
You sound like Dr.White's henchman, repeating word for word everything he says. Do your own research bro. Do you know that James White has been caught lying many times during debates, when speaking about Islam, and has been exposed several times. Its all over youtuve for everyone to see too. Yet, you listen to a substandard nutcase who just confuses peopl wit his circular reasoning? Everyone except biased Christians see right thro' him. If you watch closely, he has no substance.
LOL you muzzies crack me up! Let me tell you what a "lying" is: Lying is "saying something that is NOT TRUE". Lying is NOT "saying something the opponent doesnt like to hear". And this is what Muslims just dont get: because White says things that are true, BUT you dont like to hear, doesnt mean that he is lying. Likewise just because Muslims say things you like to hear, doesnt mean that they are speaking the truth. So let's all see how much research you have done and show us where White lied.
That's probably because you think that debates are more like sitcoms, as in when you hear what you like, you feel so elated and it gives you a sudden burst of bubbliness that you have to end up laughing out like you're possessed. Well that's you're call. Bro, its the other way round, in case you haven't noticed. Muslims are the ones who speak the Truth, unlike Bible Defenders wwho have to go around in circles when they're trapped
James White has been thoroughly exposed right here on youtube itself, let's see if you're smart enough to find it. All the same, anyone thoroughly knowledgeable about Islam and Christianity equally can easily show you how much of a fake James White is, and all he does is try to attack Islam by lying when he's trapped. I pity you and your 3rd-grade intellect. And you want to come out here and debate? You make me sick.
"you have to end up laughing out like you're possessed". Oh my stars... the IRONY! Wasn't it your "prophet" who thought he was demon-possessed after he got manhandled in the cave of Hira and tried to commit suicide in the process? These are all in your Muslim sources! Or am I "lying" now?
exchristian i watched the first 4 mins of your video then i stopped you fail to realize that dr ehrman discovered nothing new in his studies as christians and other biblical scholars have studied what he knew for a while. he came to his own radical conclusion and the REAL reason he lost his faith was suffering. peace and god bless
Ehrman did lose his faith becuase of the problem of suffering. Would that mean he had a low view of sin? I think so. But exChristian seems to be only looking at Ehrmans statement without looking at Whites replies. DrOakley1689 on youtube is Dr James White page see what he has to say about the debate. Great comment Cephas.
the reason White brought up the Quran was to see if Ehrman was consistent. Ehrman admits he knows nothing about Islam but as I said he sits on the "chair" of his religious department. But in exchrisitan videos he says why not let non Christians critique the Bile. That is fine and they do all the time. But the same goes for you and Islam. You said that Ehrman is not an Isalmic scholar. So I ask you why won't you let non Muslim scholars critique the Quran? Be consistent in your standards...
um why not. I show the video and like many muslims you zare assuming something. First, it was just a review not a full reveiw. they are just my thoughts about it really. I see you like Ehrman so much no matter what error he trhrows in your face, you accept it. Not all Biblical scholars come to Ehrmans conclusions. His teacher Bruse Metzger did not become a radical skeptic. The so called errors do not effect the meaning at all and White demonstrated this.
I've purchased the audio, but haven't listened to it yet. I'm not always in agreement with Dr. White, but I do appreciate his depth of knowledge. My granny always said it's the empty vessel that makes the loudest noise. I've heard no louder than Ahmed and Abdallah. Totally intellectually ignorant, but never having enough sense to keep their ignorance from the public venues. LOL!
I think Nadir tried save face becuase Sam and White killed him in a debate. So way not pick on some one else. It is like the bully in school. You can not beat any one up so you pickon someone weaker than you.
Really, I've never seen anyone weaker than Nadir, so I haven't tortured myself for more than a year, listening to his *debates*. He has no idea how a debate is even structured, often trying to offer a new topic of debate in place of a summation. Just a wholly unappealing character.
7 christian believers killed in a church in Brazil last week. The church's roof collapsed killing those people who are saved by the blood Jesus. Can you tell me if Jesus is an infinite sacrifice and he covers all your sins , why is it that Christians are suffering in that way?
Erhman repeatedly states that these 'revelations' of biblical errancy are in no way new: they're actually *taught* in seminaries and colleges worldwide. For you to gloss this is simply malfeasance and a complete FAIL on your part, not his.
MsGingergingercat 8 months ago
Ehrman almost universally begins all his debates by insisting he used to be a born-again, that he saw MASSIVE (not apparent but MASSIVE) contradictions relevant to Christian beliefs that cannot be reconciled, then highlights his own views that the bible is unreliable.
Then he goes off about his credentials and reading originals in Greek, mentions we don't have the original copies, and affirms all this as if NOBODY ELSE in his field could ever disagree with him.
I thought your vid was spot on!
Alternate2GOP 1 year ago
Can you tell me please where can I find the debate?
saqib09 1 year ago
Dude, sorry to say this, but you make no sense! Fyi, if muslims quote Dr. Ehrman, they do so to affirm their position that this bible is not the word of god based on its textual structure and history. In other words, Dr. Ehrman, a learned expert in the subject, is a third party examiner of the facts. Even though he began his life as a devoted christian. Based on scholarship, he concurred with the islamic position regarding the bible, yet he is not a muslim.
Highabove01 2 years ago
This only adds more credibility to the muslims' position! But again, the greatest critic of the bible is the bible itself!
Highabove01 2 years ago
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I bought the MP3 of discussion, and I say Dr. White lost the debate.
I also fell sorry Dr. White mentioned about Quran in the debate. This is not muslm-christian debate, please do not involve Quran here.
Please do debate with muslim with fair.
As he said, this is public debate, so he should have more responsibility in making statement.
kangwardanaoke 2 years ago
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kangwardanaoke 2 years ago
Amen Brother!
theembracedofgod 2 years ago
It's funny that Ehrman claims he cant comment about the Quran because he is no scholar. You dont have to be! If one book cant be divine because of some standards, then it goes for another book as well based on the same standards. Fact is that we dont have the original Quran since Uthmann burnt the originals. So therefore, by Ehrman's standards, the Quran cant be divine. But Ehrman doesnt go there since he knows he will have to be under survailance if he does. Muslims dont exactly "pray for u".
Nakdimon316 2 years ago
You sound like Dr.White's henchman, repeating word for word everything he says. Do your own research bro. Do you know that James White has been caught lying many times during debates, when speaking about Islam, and has been exposed several times. Its all over youtuve for everyone to see too. Yet, you listen to a substandard nutcase who just confuses peopl wit his circular reasoning? Everyone except biased Christians see right thro' him. If you watch closely, he has no substance.
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docsheji 2 years ago
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May the Almighty guide us all to the Straight Path, Aameen.
docsheji 2 years ago
LOL you muzzies crack me up! Let me tell you what a "lying" is: Lying is "saying something that is NOT TRUE". Lying is NOT "saying something the opponent doesnt like to hear". And this is what Muslims just dont get: because White says things that are true, BUT you dont like to hear, doesnt mean that he is lying. Likewise just because Muslims say things you like to hear, doesnt mean that they are speaking the truth. So let's all see how much research you have done and show us where White lied.
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
@Nakdimon316
"LOL you muzzies crack me up!" ??
That's probably because you think that debates are more like sitcoms, as in when you hear what you like, you feel so elated and it gives you a sudden burst of bubbliness that you have to end up laughing out like you're possessed. Well that's you're call. Bro, its the other way round, in case you haven't noticed. Muslims are the ones who speak the Truth, unlike Bible Defenders wwho have to go around in circles when they're trapped
docsheji 1 year ago
James White has been thoroughly exposed right here on youtube itself, let's see if you're smart enough to find it. All the same, anyone thoroughly knowledgeable about Islam and Christianity equally can easily show you how much of a fake James White is, and all he does is try to attack Islam by lying when he's trapped. I pity you and your 3rd-grade intellect. And you want to come out here and debate? You make me sick.
docsheji 1 year ago
Translated: "I have no evidence of James White lying". Thanks for the info and for exposing yourself.
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
"you have to end up laughing out like you're possessed". Oh my stars... the IRONY! Wasn't it your "prophet" who thought he was demon-possessed after he got manhandled in the cave of Hira and tried to commit suicide in the process? These are all in your Muslim sources! Or am I "lying" now?
Nakdimon316 1 year ago
watch new god coming to life. god or jesus baby
The Lost Tomb of Jesus 1/10
fbibadboys 2 years ago
I give eternal life!
Clearly I am more than a guy sitting at his computer. I said it, so it must be true.
shunyotube 3 years ago
exchristian i watched the first 4 mins of your video then i stopped you fail to realize that dr ehrman discovered nothing new in his studies as christians and other biblical scholars have studied what he knew for a while. he came to his own radical conclusion and the REAL reason he lost his faith was suffering. peace and god bless
Cephas113 3 years ago 2
Ehrman did lose his faith becuase of the problem of suffering. Would that mean he had a low view of sin? I think so. But exChristian seems to be only looking at Ehrmans statement without looking at Whites replies. DrOakley1689 on youtube is Dr James White page see what he has to say about the debate. Great comment Cephas.
MBI3030 3 years ago
the reason White brought up the Quran was to see if Ehrman was consistent. Ehrman admits he knows nothing about Islam but as I said he sits on the "chair" of his religious department. But in exchrisitan videos he says why not let non Christians critique the Bile. That is fine and they do all the time. But the same goes for you and Islam. You said that Ehrman is not an Isalmic scholar. So I ask you why won't you let non Muslim scholars critique the Quran? Be consistent in your standards...
MBI3030 3 years ago
um why not. I show the video and like many muslims you zare assuming something. First, it was just a review not a full reveiw. they are just my thoughts about it really. I see you like Ehrman so much no matter what error he trhrows in your face, you accept it. Not all Biblical scholars come to Ehrmans conclusions. His teacher Bruse Metzger did not become a radical skeptic. The so called errors do not effect the meaning at all and White demonstrated this.
MBI3030 3 years ago
YOU SAW THE DEBATE?! YOU'RE SO LUCKY!
AnthonyNpplboy 3 years ago
I've purchased the audio, but haven't listened to it yet. I'm not always in agreement with Dr. White, but I do appreciate his depth of knowledge. My granny always said it's the empty vessel that makes the loudest noise. I've heard no louder than Ahmed and Abdallah. Totally intellectually ignorant, but never having enough sense to keep their ignorance from the public venues. LOL!
SGl963 3 years ago
I think Nadir tried save face becuase Sam and White killed him in a debate. So way not pick on some one else. It is like the bully in school. You can not beat any one up so you pickon someone weaker than you.
MBI3030 3 years ago
Really, I've never seen anyone weaker than Nadir, so I haven't tortured myself for more than a year, listening to his *debates*. He has no idea how a debate is even structured, often trying to offer a new topic of debate in place of a summation. Just a wholly unappealing character.
SGl963 3 years ago
7 christian believers killed in a church in Brazil last week. The church's roof collapsed killing those people who are saved by the blood Jesus. Can you tell me if Jesus is an infinite sacrifice and he covers all your sins , why is it that Christians are suffering in that way?
1MoreMuslim 3 years ago
Where did you see the debate? White didn't post did he?
megawolf7 3 years ago
I meant to say I heard it. Sorry for the mistake. But I have it on MP3. I can not wait till it comes out on DVD.
MBI3030 3 years ago
why do you in all your videos wear a hat and a jacket in the room dont you have heat im just joking with you LOL
worldwidevideos123 3 years ago
ummm. My dorm room the heater broke. It sucks! Trust me, I am breezing in this dorm. But it is getting fixed, Lord willing soon...
MBI3030 3 years ago
they fixed my heater...............ahhhhhhhhhhhh
MBI3030 3 years ago