You are correct, I just like it that way because I don't want to be the same as everyone else because everyone else did not bother to teach me one of the most important tools I will use in life...
MONEY.
If I had gone to university to find out about money I would have been given the text book keynesian answer that IS incorrect!
So go correct someone about money first then correct their spelling and grammar.
@SelfLearningChannel said "i'm not really sure that its legal to give ppl advice"
Sue me! I will defeat you in court!
Gold and Silver are money and nothing else. It's like eating poison and calling it food reality will hit you one day. Why are they money! Cuz they can't go to zero, no own can print it thus it can not be counterfeited, it's dividable without the loss of value, hit has a 6000 year history of storing value.
Put down the Keynesian crack pipe and see the absolute truth.
Tomorrow we will see the headline "Dollar in FREE Fall! United States is Bankrupt!"
It already bankrupt except the government does not want to admit it yet.
It's like a person not making $20,000 year but spending $40,000 a year with maxed out credit cards with interest rate resets and future obligation of $1,180,000 promising he will figure out a way to pay it.
Ive listened to you for a while now. You are WAY over the top with this the gold thing (and silver). Your dooms day scenario is not going to play out Also,.there are many MANY far better invesment opptys In other hard assests than gold and silver
Being long gold is fighting an uphill battle againts every central bank in the world.
OK, hold your dollars then, see how it works out for you.
Just remember physical silver and gold are the only assets the majority of the public can easily trade for goods and services, without converting to paper money.
That's why Central Banks hate it and that's why it will defeat them.
Also note looking at the technical analysis and the COT gold should have crashed down to a moving average of 950 - 960. It did not. Someone or some government has placed a floor on gold.
BTW There will be no "dooms day", we will still be here buying and selling goods. No need to panic.
good luck with that. way too many people in the inflation trade now. All assets are going to get annihilated in the next down wave. Dollar sentiment index hit 3% Bullish recently.
This is a great video explaining deflationary pressure.
The fed is trying to fix their monetary problems with inflation, but it really isnt working. I agree, inflation will occur in the future but deflation is the biggest risk right now, today.
Although it's very difficult to predict the exact time it'll happen (so I'm not doing it), I still believe that we will go through a short term deflation, where cash will be king again due to forced liquidation. If you can, or have information as to when this would happen, I'd say hold off on the gold, but if you don't want to risk it, then buy something of real value, eg. agriculture, basemetals, energy, etc. It doesn't have to be precious metals.
whats the best to hold?[as far as silver goes] I have been trying to get mostly 1oz 999fine ingots, but have been buying morgans [90% I believe] when I can't find eagles or other 999fine. or does it really even matter as long as the price is good comparative to content.[I've been finding morgans at the flea pretty reasonable. [be careful, there are a lot of fakes out there!!! and some of the peace dollars look pretty good at first glance.
For the most part it does not matter, but I like the Eagles the best because...
1. They are minted for circulation so they are durable.
2. The silver cartel will lobby the government to stop minting them when the price explodes, and you can bet they will stop, thus sending the premiums to the moon.
Hope I buy the last year of mintage that will be like a 1933 gold coin.
This may sound weird but our biggest threat right now is deflation not inflation. Yes, they have printed crazy amounts of money, and inflation will occur in the future but right now I'm looking at deflation as the biggest threat until I can identify the next, dare I say it, BUBBLE.
Really? So if you held dollars from March 09 to now you did not lose 15% of your purchasing power?
Wow, I guess the dollar index is wrong then it did not fall from 90 to 76 did it, oil did not go from 30 to 70, gold did not go from 900 to 1000, silver did not go from 12 to 17, and the DOW did not go from 6800 to 9800.
According to you all that was "deflation". lol
Thanks for the good laugh I was wonder where all the deflationistas went.
LOL, that's what the deflation experts like MarketWatch101 was saying last year. Have you seen him around? He does not show his face and has deleted all his past comments.
Your ignorance is amusing. I thought you had a grasp on things but I now question my judgement.
Listen, I'm not saying there won't be inflation, there will be and is, in some cases, but there are deflationary aspects in the economy right now. NOT ALL assets are experiencing inflation. Some assets are getting killed by deflationary pressure and some assets, gold especially, are seeing a boom because of the weak dollar.
Ok Joker. So what you are saying is inflation is the increase in prices. RIGHT...
At any point in time of WORLD history I can point to prices going up in one set of items and prices going down in other set of items. So depending on what a person focuses on then he sees inflation or deflation.
Reality is an absolute so, what is really going on? Money supply is what determines inflation or deflation not prices. Other factors can affect prices. Over supply or lack of buyers.
Inflation is the increase in money supply higher prices is the result. In a free market the flow of money is not controlled so where that new money goes causes prices to rise first then other items will eventually rise if the money supply continues to increase.
Sure I'm with you to a certain extent, but let me put it this way for you. I'll use wages for example. Some wages will experience inflationary pressures and some will experience deflationary pressures.
It becomes polarized. Prices for things will either go to zero or damn near or go insanely high.
It depends on what asset classes your talking about.
Gold will go very high. But not everything that's for sure.
Remember, it doesn't matter how big the money supply is if you cannot access it.
Please stop. You say money supply is inflation, well yes I agree to a certain extent BUT you are only half way there. What if people continue to default on their mortgages at record rates and commercial RE collapses. Ooops. Money supply contracts right. As I'm sure your aware, money is created thru debt.
Oil, Gold and hard things will be valued at astronomical prices. Frivilous things we don't need will not skyrocket in price it just won't happen.
Money is created out of debt and debt is extinguished not by default but by selling the asset to extinguish the debt. If the asset remains on the books it is the offsetting balance of the debt. In English it means if the banks keep the house and don't sell it they do not pay off the debt. Ops!
:)
Finally the US is in a position that has never existed in human history. 60% of your 18 trillion IOU money supply is outside of the USA, and foreigners are getting sick of take it for their goods.
Another bailout means free money from the printing press. A lack of a bailout means more defaults and thus a second banking crisis, that will end the dollar.
Access to the money supply for the average person is not relevant when you have trillions outside of the country. Ask the people of Iceland, they were losing jobs, prices where going down on houses and such, but, one day their currency collapsed. Not because the public was spending, but because the majority owners of the Krona (the Krona is the Icelandic dollar) sold them for other things.
How much longer can the world accept over $1.2 billion a day for their stuff?
Now in Iceland everything is cheap priced in dollars but expensive and out the reach for many priced in Krona.
Yet, you would call that deflation because it's cheaper in dollars? Fine, I will be saying the same thing priced in gold everything will be "deflating" for me. LOL
Let's be real here their is no one left to continue selling goods and accepting the dollar thus letting the game go on longer.
I'll tell you what happened. Stella banned me from his site because I pointed out predictions he made that didn't occur. Stella deleted my comments. Perhaps since you 2 are friends you will do the same.
It't hard to be around when people ban me. What have I been doing? I sold half of all my stocks that have doubled and now own the other half for free. I'll be glad to banter back and forth with you on the markets but in a respectful way and keep things interesting. Up to you.
That's the dollar index, not the consumer price index. I live here, no inflation of 15 %. And you're taking the dollar index from its high in March 09. Take it from March of 08 and its up. Give me a break. Yes, imports will cost more, but exports will increase.
A buy and hold strategy will work for gold and silver. If you have the patience, you will be rewarded. Holding the physical metal is dandy but you have to keep in mind the confiscation factor. It's happened before and may happen again. It might seem a little out there, but it's on the table.
And can you guess what they'll give you for your gold or silver? Dollars.
Owning metals is good but like everything else, it has it's weaknesses.
Also invest in lead and gunpowder. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrrants and patriots, it is it's natural manure"
Thomas Jefferson
"The only rights you will have are the ones you are willing to fight for" John Adams
You were hounding people to sell all stocks, no matter what, just a month or two ago. I'm not sure what's changed your mind. I disagree with you now. SELL anything that isn't real, and buy silver.
Gold and Silver is Money .... wouldnt proper grammar be to pluralize the linking verb so that it is Gold and Silver are money?
SelfLearningChannel 9 months ago
@SelfLearningChannel
You are correct, I just like it that way because I don't want to be the same as everyone else because everyone else did not bother to teach me one of the most important tools I will use in life...
MONEY.
If I had gone to university to find out about money I would have been given the text book keynesian answer that IS incorrect!
So go correct someone about money first then correct their spelling and grammar.
Cuz a wealthy society is a free society!
davincij15 9 months ago
@davincij15 GOOD GRIEF ... just trying to help you out and you land all over me ?????? I just put it up in the form of a question ??
Get lost ... I have other people to learn this stuff from. I dont need your arrogant self righteous attitude
SelfLearningChannel 7 months ago
@SelfLearningChannel
Sorry too many trolls trying to mess with me it's hard to tell. Didn't mean to be such an ass.
Cheers
Davinci
davincij15 7 months ago
@davincij15 uhm ,,, i'm not really sure that its legal to give ppl advice like that
SelfLearningChannel 9 months ago
@SelfLearningChannel said "i'm not really sure that its legal to give ppl advice"
Sue me! I will defeat you in court!
Gold and Silver are money and nothing else. It's like eating poison and calling it food reality will hit you one day. Why are they money! Cuz they can't go to zero, no own can print it thus it can not be counterfeited, it's dividable without the loss of value, hit has a 6000 year history of storing value.
Put down the Keynesian crack pipe and see the absolute truth.
davincij15 9 months ago
what about gold mining stocks
InfoRyda 1 year ago
I need money to buy money.. that is the problem...
urkingod 2 years ago
Times are tough for many. If you need to make some money right now here's a guaranteed way to do it...
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BrittPhillips 2 years ago
Jim Cramer just said on CNBC that he likes gold.
marketwatch101 2 years ago
Sell...Sell...Sell...
LOL. Cramer is a joke.
TheBeav30 2 years ago
Sell what ?
marketwatch101 2 years ago
I was making a joke of those obnoxious noises he uses on his show, and that many things he recommends usually turnout to be a bad investment.
I like gold, but I love silver. I think it is still under priced compared to the price of gold.
TheBeav30 2 years ago
Silver could easily go up 10 times compared to gold.
marketwatch101 2 years ago
davinci,
It is happenning, watch these videos:
/watch?v=DlGgI6z-fQA
/watch?v=4m75VTHEzcA
/watch?v=YPXncTuwFIE
SilverRose09 2 years ago
1042.18
in two minutes
chena3 2 years ago
1040.80 $
dxy getting hammered ..
chena3 2 years ago
1039
this is getting spookey
later
chena3 2 years ago
1036.04 $ ...gold this morn ..
new all time historic high ..
when you're good
you're good ..
play hard ..
or stay home
chena3 2 years ago
man check out the ticks
it's war ...hard core
dollar swings.. like right now .
think upward momentum.. will rule
play hard ...woof ..
.
chena3 2 years ago
Davincij...
one of these days ...
most likely on a friday ..
when we see
that head line ...
will be the last one we see...
gold 1019.40 $
wonder how much gold the european union has ..
lets go buy some of it ....
chena3 2 years ago
gold 1020.10 $
almost tomorrow ny
chena3 2 years ago
Tomorrow we will see the headline "Dollar in FREE Fall! United States is Bankrupt!"
It already bankrupt except the government does not want to admit it yet.
It's like a person not making $20,000 year but spending $40,000 a year with maxed out credit cards with interest rate resets and future obligation of $1,180,000 promising he will figure out a way to pay it.
LOL
davincij15 2 years ago
evening players
keep an eye on asia tonight ...
interesting 12 hr play ..
might see new highs all around ..
gold ...1032 $ by dawn ...
see how london acts..
polish them bars ...
chena3 2 years ago
Why is silver lagging gold, I mean, gold hits 1000 but silver is still below its high ? Any one care to answer.
tfrenn 2 years ago
Yes, The Beijing PUT is on gold not silver. Also there is not as many investors in sliver, the big fish all got wiped out in the collapse last year.
They were leveraged paper silver traders that thought they where smarter than a bank that can see their transaction. Fools.
Finally keep in mind the .48 cents move today is 3% and the golds $15 move is 1.5%
:)
davincij15 2 years ago
Thanks, I think silver is the big play in terms of % gain.
tfrenn 2 years ago
Davinc
check out a blog called FOFOA.
Google it - interesting thoughts
re: Gold in the great scheme of things.
dojufitz 2 years ago
Davincij
Ive listened to you for a while now. You are WAY over the top with this the gold thing (and silver). Your dooms day scenario is not going to play out Also,.there are many MANY far better invesment opptys In other hard assests than gold and silver
Being long gold is fighting an uphill battle againts every central bank in the world.
You will lose, I promise.
mejt223 2 years ago
OK, hold your dollars then, see how it works out for you.
Just remember physical silver and gold are the only assets the majority of the public can easily trade for goods and services, without converting to paper money.
That's why Central Banks hate it and that's why it will defeat them.
davincij15 2 years ago
Also note looking at the technical analysis and the COT gold should have crashed down to a moving average of 950 - 960. It did not. Someone or some government has placed a floor on gold.
BTW There will be no "dooms day", we will still be here buying and selling goods. No need to panic.
davincij15 2 years ago
what other investment opportunities are there ?
orangedac 2 years ago
good luck with that. way too many people in the inflation trade now. All assets are going to get annihilated in the next down wave. Dollar sentiment index hit 3% Bullish recently.
Thaner14 2 years ago
boring
orangefield1 2 years ago
Here's an example of prices going up.
2 years ago I bought a metal turning lathe for £600. Today that same lathe will cost you £970.
Considering sea freight has gone down in price from $20k/day to $2000/day on a container ship, it tells me the pound is losing value.
The pound is in the same trouble as the dollar.
stuntpea 2 years ago
This is a great video explaining deflationary pressure.
The fed is trying to fix their monetary problems with inflation, but it really isnt working. I agree, inflation will occur in the future but deflation is the biggest risk right now, today.
Here it is, it came out yesterday.
/watch?v=U6SINDNGC88
ruleof3 2 years ago
Although it's very difficult to predict the exact time it'll happen (so I'm not doing it), I still believe that we will go through a short term deflation, where cash will be king again due to forced liquidation. If you can, or have information as to when this would happen, I'd say hold off on the gold, but if you don't want to risk it, then buy something of real value, eg. agriculture, basemetals, energy, etc. It doesn't have to be precious metals.
chroNick546 2 years ago
The yen appreciated against the gold
chroNick546 2 years ago
Good vid, hope all is well with you and your family, as this unfolds
Tina
whiskerchild 2 years ago
We are doing fine, thanks for asking.
davincij15 2 years ago
whats the best to hold?[as far as silver goes] I have been trying to get mostly 1oz 999fine ingots, but have been buying morgans [90% I believe] when I can't find eagles or other 999fine. or does it really even matter as long as the price is good comparative to content.[I've been finding morgans at the flea pretty reasonable. [be careful, there are a lot of fakes out there!!! and some of the peace dollars look pretty good at first glance.
bastardchildofmary 2 years ago
For the most part it does not matter, but I like the Eagles the best because...
1. They are minted for circulation so they are durable.
2. The silver cartel will lobby the government to stop minting them when the price explodes, and you can bet they will stop, thus sending the premiums to the moon.
Hope I buy the last year of mintage that will be like a 1933 gold coin.
davincij15 2 years ago
spot plus 6 %
17.12
chena3 2 years ago
25 thousand silver eagles
half a mil ....20 each .. offer 16.50
chena3 2 years ago
Wow are you selling?
davincij15 2 years ago
just checking
the debth of some pockets ..
chena3 2 years ago
China PUT. Most likely.
davincij15 2 years ago
Thanks fixed.
davincij15 2 years ago
This may sound weird but our biggest threat right now is deflation not inflation. Yes, they have printed crazy amounts of money, and inflation will occur in the future but right now I'm looking at deflation as the biggest threat until I can identify the next, dare I say it, BUBBLE.
ruleof3 2 years ago
Really? So if you held dollars from March 09 to now you did not lose 15% of your purchasing power?
Wow, I guess the dollar index is wrong then it did not fall from 90 to 76 did it, oil did not go from 30 to 70, gold did not go from 900 to 1000, silver did not go from 12 to 17, and the DOW did not go from 6800 to 9800.
According to you all that was "deflation". lol
Thanks for the good laugh I was wonder where all the deflationistas went.
davincij15 2 years ago
Haha okay, we will see.
ruleof3 2 years ago
LOL, that's what the deflation experts like MarketWatch101 was saying last year. Have you seen him around? He does not show his face and has deleted all his past comments.
lol
Reality will be our final arbiter.
davincij15 2 years ago
Your ignorance is amusing. I thought you had a grasp on things but I now question my judgement.
Listen, I'm not saying there won't be inflation, there will be and is, in some cases, but there are deflationary aspects in the economy right now. NOT ALL assets are experiencing inflation. Some assets are getting killed by deflationary pressure and some assets, gold especially, are seeing a boom because of the weak dollar.
Are housing prices in the US exploding? No. Why?
Stop making me laugh.
ruleof3 2 years ago
Ok Joker. So what you are saying is inflation is the increase in prices. RIGHT...
At any point in time of WORLD history I can point to prices going up in one set of items and prices going down in other set of items. So depending on what a person focuses on then he sees inflation or deflation.
Reality is an absolute so, what is really going on? Money supply is what determines inflation or deflation not prices. Other factors can affect prices. Over supply or lack of buyers.
davincij15 2 years ago
Inflation is the increase in money supply higher prices is the result. In a free market the flow of money is not controlled so where that new money goes causes prices to rise first then other items will eventually rise if the money supply continues to increase.
davincij15 2 years ago
Sure I'm with you to a certain extent, but let me put it this way for you. I'll use wages for example. Some wages will experience inflationary pressures and some will experience deflationary pressures.
It becomes polarized. Prices for things will either go to zero or damn near or go insanely high.
It depends on what asset classes your talking about.
Gold will go very high. But not everything that's for sure.
Remember, it doesn't matter how big the money supply is if you cannot access it.
ruleof3 2 years ago
Please stop. You say money supply is inflation, well yes I agree to a certain extent BUT you are only half way there. What if people continue to default on their mortgages at record rates and commercial RE collapses. Ooops. Money supply contracts right. As I'm sure your aware, money is created thru debt.
Oil, Gold and hard things will be valued at astronomical prices. Frivilous things we don't need will not skyrocket in price it just won't happen.
ruleof3 2 years ago
Money is created out of debt and debt is extinguished not by default but by selling the asset to extinguish the debt. If the asset remains on the books it is the offsetting balance of the debt. In English it means if the banks keep the house and don't sell it they do not pay off the debt. Ops!
:)
Finally the US is in a position that has never existed in human history. 60% of your 18 trillion IOU money supply is outside of the USA, and foreigners are getting sick of take it for their goods.
davincij15 2 years ago
Finally I ask one more question. Will there be another bail-out and stimulus? yes or no?
If you say yes there will be another bail-out and stimulus, then you totally contradict what you say.
If you say no there won't be, you are wrong.
Either way.
ruleof3 2 years ago
Another bailout means free money from the printing press. A lack of a bailout means more defaults and thus a second banking crisis, that will end the dollar.
davincij15 2 years ago
Access to the money supply for the average person is not relevant when you have trillions outside of the country. Ask the people of Iceland, they were losing jobs, prices where going down on houses and such, but, one day their currency collapsed. Not because the public was spending, but because the majority owners of the Krona (the Krona is the Icelandic dollar) sold them for other things.
How much longer can the world accept over $1.2 billion a day for their stuff?
davincij15 2 years ago
Now in Iceland everything is cheap priced in dollars but expensive and out the reach for many priced in Krona.
Yet, you would call that deflation because it's cheaper in dollars? Fine, I will be saying the same thing priced in gold everything will be "deflating" for me. LOL
Let's be real here their is no one left to continue selling goods and accepting the dollar thus letting the game go on longer.
davincij15 2 years ago
Watch this.
manoftruth's perspective.
/watch?v=rDJQzh3aE78
ruleof3 2 years ago
I'll tell you what happened. Stella banned me from his site because I pointed out predictions he made that didn't occur. Stella deleted my comments. Perhaps since you 2 are friends you will do the same.
It't hard to be around when people ban me. What have I been doing? I sold half of all my stocks that have doubled and now own the other half for free. I'll be glad to banter back and forth with you on the markets but in a respectful way and keep things interesting. Up to you.
marketwatch101 2 years ago
I will not ban you Marketwatch101 you can point out all the mistakes I made all you want.
Hey how you liking the deflation you kept on me about. Doesn't the BLS show inflation at 15%?
LOL HAHA!
davincij15 2 years ago
I tell ya, I get no respect.
I don't see any of this hyperinflation. You mean 1.5 % not 15%. Dollar down, stocks and gold up. Good for everyone except those in cash.
marketwatch101 2 years ago
Thought you were talking about inflation in the US not dollar index.
marketwatch101 2 years ago
Marketwatch101:
On what planet are you on? Even the government BLS shows a 15% loss to inflation.
Look the BLS number is an absolute I will not debate that with you.
davincij15 2 years ago
That's the dollar index, not the consumer price index. I live here, no inflation of 15 %. And you're taking the dollar index from its high in March 09. Take it from March of 08 and its up. Give me a break. Yes, imports will cost more, but exports will increase.
marketwatch101 2 years ago
Does Stella still think we're in a bear market rally. I mean he shorted the DOW at 8900. Is it time to short again ?
marketwatch101 2 years ago
And another thing, do you think that the price of gold is manipulated?
ruleof3 2 years ago
And yes, gold and silver are great investments.
A buy and hold strategy will work for gold and silver. If you have the patience, you will be rewarded. Holding the physical metal is dandy but you have to keep in mind the confiscation factor. It's happened before and may happen again. It might seem a little out there, but it's on the table.
And can you guess what they'll give you for your gold or silver? Dollars.
Owning metals is good but like everything else, it has it's weaknesses.
ruleof3 2 years ago
So what is your plan if indeed they confiscate gold and silver and they give you cash?
Won't be so funny then I guess.
Nothing is fail proof and no plan is perfect.
ruleof3 2 years ago
Also invest in lead and gunpowder. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrrants and patriots, it is it's natural manure"
Thomas Jefferson
"The only rights you will have are the ones you are willing to fight for" John Adams
argentummolonlabe 2 years ago 2
OK check out my confiscation video...
"Confiscation has already occurred!"
watch?v=ypXYGzK-CLE
davincij15 2 years ago
Davincij
Good post.........
SlyToocan 2 years ago
Obsession
online4now 2 years ago
With the truth, with what is right? Yes.
davincij15 2 years ago
how much of your net worth is in gold/silver?
tinslatee 2 years ago
98%
davincij15 2 years ago
stocks will go down dollar will go up gold and silver are stubbornly holding their new support levels.
Repomex01 2 years ago
This video can be understood that we should sell gold and buy stocks as gold is expensive and stocks cheap.
veriappelsiini 2 years ago
I like Ron Paul, but i think its time to take down the poster.
catdog262 2 years ago
Negative! Ron Paul for life baby!
davincij15 2 years ago
You were hounding people to sell all stocks, no matter what, just a month or two ago. I'm not sure what's changed your mind. I disagree with you now. SELL anything that isn't real, and buy silver.
drutter 2 years ago 2
I was speaking to people that are in gold and silver stocks and thinking we are seeing a repeat of last year.
I still think you should be 95% in physical things that you can touch and feel. And 5% in on the casino of the market.
davincij15 2 years ago
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MrBankRuns 2 years ago
simply precious, preciously simple
1mealperday 2 years ago 2
Keep preaching the Good Message, DV.
Airave 2 years ago
Good message!
Thanks!
BackBurnerNews 2 years ago