Soldiers are not complete idiots, they must know by now that Bush lied to them about this war from the very beginning. If they are still willing to sacrifice life and limbs for this guy let them go for it.
Oh ok and i suppose you think that soldiers get to choose which war they fight, soldiers cant quit when wars are announced they signed a contract they ahve to fight. Saying that is just stupid and ignorant.
You cannot choose your war maybe if you know a few soldiers you would understand that.
OK they don't choose where they get to go, I accept that, but why do they reenlist? This is a volunteer force after all. There is no mystery where you are going once you reenlist.
Fair point, however, saying that they think they are gona get killed when they enlist is not right. Total american casualties so far are around 4,000 (KIA) if they knew they were gona die they wouldn't. They don't sign up to get killed, it is for entirely different reasons i can't list them there are far to many. Their job is risky but many of them love it, i would be tempted to even say most of them love it but ican't know that.
Major, corporate mainstream media may be able to ban & banish responsible, truthful journalists, but at least we have some semblance of a democracy to make heros like Bill Moyers possible to propagate some truth to the masses willing to listen...
I thought this piece of shit retired. Moyers is just another yaaaawn socialist mouthpiece, a skinny olderr errr what's his name... the fat guy making those I Love commie movies...Moore Michael Moore! how could I forget?
Are you kidding me? How is being a journalist "socialist". Since when does socialism have anything to do with the war in Iraq? You are obviously a troll.
I KEW IT! Watch this garbage long enough and it shows how many scholarshipss, how many kids could get health care...Blah blah blah Government has no right or responsibility doing any of that. The more government provides, the more expensive everything gets.
Why don't you enlist a brain? Do you know how many poor children we could feed if we didn't have to pay for Bill Moyers and
p B.S.? Or pay for Nancy Pelosi's flowers? How many children with cancer could be cured if we didn't have to provide Bill Clintons whores rides to and fro? Why aren't those questions asked?
If you think that Corporations have your best interests in mind, think again. Watch President Eisenhower's speech(IKE) 1961 and then, Be Warned. Yes, you will be next to be imprisoned, tortured, gassed, shot, and so much more. Wake up America! Don't be fooled. Stop naming calling and seek knowledge.
We liberated the Iraqi, we eliminated a dictator, The Terrorists Kill the Iraqi's and US soldiers... the left wing liberals with the terrorists AGAINST the war...the yearly cost of influenza that prevent our children from common viruses also high, but it is well worth it! Freedom isn't Free!
I agree than someone had to stop Saddam, he slaughtered entire villages and straight up murdered people. But I do believe the war has gone on far too long. These countries have been at war for centuries and are brainwashed by politics and religion. You're not going to change that by marching in with tanks and forcing democracy on them.
i hope that we all are smart enough to know that these men and women did not "lose" their lives, rather they "GAVE" them. to recognize their sacrifice any other way is disgraceful. our soldiers voluntarily sign up and swear to offer their lives for our freedom. then there are people who are arrogant enough to take that very freedom that they provide and use it to degrade them. this is an awful act, and very unpatriotic.
3) If Clinton would have went to war, these women would be on every talk show from Oprah to 60 minutes, but the media is controlled by Liberals like Moyers who the terrorist love and adore.
Last thing, since when has any Liberal cared about the cost for anything?
Please, your so called liberal media was practically pissing all over itself when Bush landed on that Aircraft Carrier. That is plain to see in the video.
I guess being in the bottom %25(in common sense) of the nation is getting harder everyday! You are the evidence that proves it!
Are really this dense or are you just "pretending" to be stupid? Liberals own the media, huh? Check your facts and you will see that the major media is in the hands of corporate entities that prefer to feed us bullshit and hide the real news. BTW, you and all the other idiot war supporters do not give one wet shit about dark-skinned Middle Easterners having "freedom." This war is not about freedom. It is about money.
sure i am all for that,but. He is the President of the U.S of fucking A. that means he can get away with it, because the people are afraid of real democracy.
Why don't you go over there and tell the bad guys to stop? Why are you appealing to our sympathy, as though we started this? We want to win and end it.
I can't stomach looking at that lying fake cowboy's face (Bush)!! He has no conscience; no morals, and not one lick of sense. Completely ignorant of any reality whatsoever.
A trillion $ and 3372 deaths so far in this war sucks and we all know it, but what did it cost America in dollars and lives when the Trade Center came crashing down on 911? What would it have cost America and it's Allies if we let the terrorists continue? Don't pretend something like 911 wouldn't have happened again.
Thanks also to you, jaylundren . . . I think this war could still be won, but, we would have to be a hellava lot meaner than we are being now . . . Also remove the media from the combat zones . . .
Open your eyes. More and more people are rejecting the ridiculous left wing media crap than ever before. Soon the close-minded people of this country will be reduced to hiding in the shadows and discussing their idiotic ideologies amongst themselves. I look forward to that day.
Dipshit? Jerking off? Thank you for revealing the level of your intellect. You must be a Democrat. Don't bother replying to this post. I don't debate with the intellectually challenged.
OK, so you can say it. The fact that you don't believe it is exactly my point. By the way, I have nothing against PBS. Just the type of one-sided journalism exhibited in this piece of "reporting".
I would like to know mammy Americans killed by radical Muslims scene the 1980's. This war started when radicals took over Iran in the late 1970's. We did nothing them on stopping the Shaw, we looked weak, and they attacks on our men, soldiers, allies, only continued from then. The only difference they became much bolder, and their leaders convinced many to be martyrs. Try to remember when the 1st suicide bomber happen, Today everyday. Thanks Jimmy!!.
I still don't get it. If all the reporters and cameras were on the carrier--how'd they get there, anyway--why did the Prez have to arrive in a fighter jet?
It reminds of a great old Stan Freberg sketch: "This is Joe Jones reporting for KABC, on the summit of Mt. Everest, waiting for the historic moment when Biff Icepick becomes the first man ever to have reached the summit of the world's highest mountain. Oh, here he comes now."
Whats wrong with you americans?? for the love of jesus how do you think child murder is ok?? really the world is baffled by you people.
irishrebelalert 8 months ago
Soldiers are not complete idiots, they must know by now that Bush lied to them about this war from the very beginning. If they are still willing to sacrifice life and limbs for this guy let them go for it.
kevjo66 3 years ago
Oh ok and i suppose you think that soldiers get to choose which war they fight, soldiers cant quit when wars are announced they signed a contract they ahve to fight. Saying that is just stupid and ignorant.
You cannot choose your war maybe if you know a few soldiers you would understand that.
Appclypse 3 years ago
OK they don't choose where they get to go, I accept that, but why do they reenlist? This is a volunteer force after all. There is no mystery where you are going once you reenlist.
kevjo66 3 years ago
Fair point, however, saying that they think they are gona get killed when they enlist is not right. Total american casualties so far are around 4,000 (KIA) if they knew they were gona die they wouldn't. They don't sign up to get killed, it is for entirely different reasons i can't list them there are far to many. Their job is risky but many of them love it, i would be tempted to even say most of them love it but ican't know that.
Appclypse 3 years ago
Major, corporate mainstream media may be able to ban & banish responsible, truthful journalists, but at least we have some semblance of a democracy to make heros like Bill Moyers possible to propagate some truth to the masses willing to listen...
aragee 4 years ago
Moyers does good work.
ThinkerHA 4 years ago 2
I thought this piece of shit retired. Moyers is just another yaaaawn socialist mouthpiece, a skinny olderr errr what's his name... the fat guy making those I Love commie movies...Moore Michael Moore! how could I forget?
demliars 4 years ago
Are you kidding me? How is being a journalist "socialist". Since when does socialism have anything to do with the war in Iraq? You are obviously a troll.
TheStallion3 4 years ago 3
Your pathetic and crude language shows your lack of intelligence, fairness, or reason.
Perhaps you prefer Fox, the GOP "don't dare to think for yourself" channel?
This war is destroying the US dollar, economy, and military. Started by Bush-Cheney-McCain. Is that Treason?
ohioguy7 3 years ago 2
So you "dare to think" and enjoy Bill Moyers and Michael Moore? Nuff said.
demliars 3 years ago
George W Bush is FULL of SHIT
ampac888 4 years ago 2
at 1:22 i saw that in those pat dollard vids pretty fucked up shit.
magicmark1292 4 years ago
for that alone he should be impeached!
marcusjansen239369 4 years ago
I KEW IT! Watch this garbage long enough and it shows how many scholarshipss, how many kids could get health care...Blah blah blah Government has no right or responsibility doing any of that. The more government provides, the more expensive everything gets.
demliars 4 years ago
Enlist.
godspeedyoujustin 4 years ago
Why don't you enlist a brain? Do you know how many poor children we could feed if we didn't have to pay for Bill Moyers and
p B.S.? Or pay for Nancy Pelosi's flowers? How many children with cancer could be cured if we didn't have to provide Bill Clintons whores rides to and fro? Why aren't those questions asked?
demliars 4 years ago
This is hilarious, kicking our enemies ass is the ONE thing we're supposed to be spending money on.
demliars 4 years ago
Corporate Fascism promoting genocide in Iraq.
Read 1984, watch the movie 1984.
If you think that Corporations have your best interests in mind, think again. Watch President Eisenhower's speech(IKE) 1961 and then, Be Warned. Yes, you will be next to be imprisoned, tortured, gassed, shot, and so much more. Wake up America! Don't be fooled. Stop naming calling and seek knowledge.
lindaklase 4 years ago
We liberated the Iraqi, we eliminated a dictator, The Terrorists Kill the Iraqi's and US soldiers... the left wing liberals with the terrorists AGAINST the war...the yearly cost of influenza that prevent our children from common viruses also high, but it is well worth it! Freedom isn't Free!
henryzx 4 years ago
Thank you so much. This is fucking CRAZY!
spayspay 4 years ago
a decade.. like hell we wont!..
toyracers 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this important excerpt.
tonycologne 4 years ago
I agree than someone had to stop Saddam, he slaughtered entire villages and straight up murdered people. But I do believe the war has gone on far too long. These countries have been at war for centuries and are brainwashed by politics and religion. You're not going to change that by marching in with tanks and forcing democracy on them.
stevebohemier 4 years ago
w w w downingstreetmemo c o m /timeline find timeline READ date 8-22-1995 and 1998
Put text together change and add dots
wwwPNACATTACKcom 4 years ago
do you think the people who started the war could have known what you just pointed. of course they did
the was and is about oil and money.check out how much Iraqi oil is being sold on the black market.
eight billion dollars in cash of Iraqi assets frozen in the U.S. disappears after being flown to Iraq.
911 and everything that has happened since is one continuous criminal act.
OLDROB2005 4 years ago
do you think we faked the moon landing too?
pipinki 4 years ago
dude after 911 nothing would suprise me
OLDROB2005 4 years ago
No it WAS being sold on the black market and tin horn dictators in the UN were making the blood money. French and German officials were in on it too.
demliars 4 years ago
i hope that we all are smart enough to know that these men and women did not "lose" their lives, rather they "GAVE" them. to recognize their sacrifice any other way is disgraceful. our soldiers voluntarily sign up and swear to offer their lives for our freedom. then there are people who are arrogant enough to take that very freedom that they provide and use it to degrade them. this is an awful act, and very unpatriotic.
budcarfan 4 years ago
Moyers, where are the videos about:
1) The women that Saddam's men raped?
2) The kids that Saddam held in prison?
3) If Clinton would have went to war, these women would be on every talk show from Oprah to 60 minutes, but the media is controlled by Liberals like Moyers who the terrorist love and adore.
Last thing, since when has any Liberal cared about the cost for anything?
darcytirsia 4 years ago
What about Abu ghraib?
Where are the WMD's?
Please, your so called liberal media was practically pissing all over itself when Bush landed on that Aircraft Carrier. That is plain to see in the video.
I guess being in the bottom %25(in common sense) of the nation is getting harder everyday! You are the evidence that proves it!
scottyboyswa 4 years ago
Are really this dense or are you just "pretending" to be stupid? Liberals own the media, huh? Check your facts and you will see that the major media is in the hands of corporate entities that prefer to feed us bullshit and hide the real news. BTW, you and all the other idiot war supporters do not give one wet shit about dark-skinned Middle Easterners having "freedom." This war is not about freedom. It is about money.
AngstFilled 4 years ago
"Any nation's attempt to dictate to other nations their form of government is indefensible." D.D.E.
FatherChrismas 4 years ago
Bush should be procecuted as a war criminal.
covecozy 4 years ago
sure i am all for that,but. He is the President of the U.S of fucking A. that means he can get away with it, because the people are afraid of real democracy.
buijak 4 years ago
Why don't you go over there and tell the bad guys to stop? Why are you appealing to our sympathy, as though we started this? We want to win and end it.
gsschauble 4 years ago
Win What...... what are bush's top generals saying! where is the money for this war coming from? do your homework
rikitivitavi 4 years ago
I can't stomach looking at that lying fake cowboy's face (Bush)!! He has no conscience; no morals, and not one lick of sense. Completely ignorant of any reality whatsoever.
PaineLover 4 years ago
weeeeeeeeeeeeee WW3
89845 4 years ago
Do you want to know why? Greed, Money, Power
Do a search on google video for Terrorstorm...
christosintpa 4 years ago
PBS is funded by the public.
The ignorance that supports bush makes me want to vomit.
If you voted for bush at any time, enlist now.
FuckYouBush 4 years ago
"ignorance"? Why do you hate people that have common sense and no need to use profanity as a screen name?
demliars 4 years ago
demliars, you created an account just for this lame ass reply? I'm honored!
For even more fun, click on my name to see my video. You will love it.
FuckYouBush 4 years ago
Lame ass? Look in the mirror.
demliars 4 years ago
So sad that people are so stupidly dumb like this guy that you don't give a rats ass about the suffering of the Iraqis.
The world was warned about this, but your leader believed in "receiving flowers by Iraqis and being liberators".
The Iraqis paid the price, and people like you are enjoying your life being in denial.
faab99 4 years ago
You're an idiot but I'm sure you already know that.
jaylundgren 4 years ago
jaylundgren, don't call demliars an idiot. These types are brainwashed and cannot think for themselves.
FuckYouBush 4 years ago
A trillion $ and 3372 deaths so far in this war sucks and we all know it, but what did it cost America in dollars and lives when the Trade Center came crashing down on 911? What would it have cost America and it's Allies if we let the terrorists continue? Don't pretend something like 911 wouldn't have happened again.
jaylundgren 4 years ago
Thanks also to you, jaylundren . . . I think this war could still be won, but, we would have to be a hellava lot meaner than we are being now . . . Also remove the media from the combat zones . . .
JWTX 4 years ago
exactly!
macmalley 4 years ago
There is no winner in war! get a grip
macmalley 4 years ago
There are no winners in war? Try telling that to the people of the countries occupied by Nazi Germany during World War 2.
RockyBluz 4 years ago
no ones buying it any more
pipermen22 4 years ago
Open your eyes. More and more people are rejecting the ridiculous left wing media crap than ever before. Soon the close-minded people of this country will be reduced to hiding in the shadows and discussing their idiotic ideologies amongst themselves. I look forward to that day.
RockyBluz 4 years ago
Youll be waiting a long time dipshit. Have fun spending your golden years jerking off to the 700 club and fox news.
sextypething405 4 years ago
Dipshit? Jerking off? Thank you for revealing the level of your intellect. You must be a Democrat. Don't bother replying to this post. I don't debate with the intellectually challenged.
RockyBluz 4 years ago
Thanks RockyBluz ! Anyone who doubts might also try asking China about the Japanese invasion (1930's) . . .
JWTX 4 years ago
Can you say slanted, left-leaning, one-sided journalism? Honest, open-minded debate is a good thing. This is just PBS (Public Bull S**t).
RockyBluz 4 years ago
Yes, I can say it. Don't believe it for a second, but I can say it.
By the way, Richard Perle had an hour show on PBS a few weeks back. Definitely not left-leaning, nor is PBS's Wall Street Journal talk show.
safuna 4 years ago
OK, so you can say it. The fact that you don't believe it is exactly my point. By the way, I have nothing against PBS. Just the type of one-sided journalism exhibited in this piece of "reporting".
RockyBluz 4 years ago
Moyers' show is not funded by the govt.
safuna 4 years ago
The WAR was won! Sadam was removed, the country conquored.
What we are going through now is democrats fantasizing about another vietnam..
demliars 4 years ago
Keep on rambling repiglican, maybe if you yell loud enough people might pay attention.
audiohifi420 4 years ago
Thank you for you tasteful, patriotic, and truthful journalism, Mr. Moyers. Please keep it up for the good of our country and the world.
cammcharg 4 years ago
If you think Moyers is patriotic, you hate America.
demliars 4 years ago
"If you think Moyers is patriotic, you hate America." Brilliant. Very logical. Makes sense.
(Wow.)
cammcharg 4 years ago
Thanks! Mr. Moyers is a very patriotic Stalinist.
demliars 4 years ago
Thanks! And youre a worthless Bush groupie. Get off the internet and go bulldoze some Dixie Chicks CD you fucking neo con garbage.
sextypething405 4 years ago
I would like to know mammy Americans killed by radical Muslims scene the 1980's. This war started when radicals took over Iran in the late 1970's. We did nothing them on stopping the Shaw, we looked weak, and they attacks on our men, soldiers, allies, only continued from then. The only difference they became much bolder, and their leaders convinced many to be martyrs. Try to remember when the 1st suicide bomber happen, Today everyday. Thanks Jimmy!!.
JCIG1 4 years ago
911weknow .... go see for yourself people.
princessjaybunni 4 years ago
I still don't get it. If all the reporters and cameras were on the carrier--how'd they get there, anyway--why did the Prez have to arrive in a fighter jet?
safuna 4 years ago
Because he could.
JCIG1 4 years ago
The carrier was about 25 miles off of San Diego, CA and he flew out to the carrier. It was a planned P/R event.
renata99 4 years ago
It reminds of a great old Stan Freberg sketch: "This is Joe Jones reporting for KABC, on the summit of Mt. Everest, waiting for the historic moment when Biff Icepick becomes the first man ever to have reached the summit of the world's highest mountain. Oh, here he comes now."
safuna 4 years ago
wow...very sad to see all of those crosses
djJani5 4 years ago