In here you wonder that, if because real museums allow creationist to do a tour, then would realists be allowed into their churches, etc... Well, there is a video here PZ Myers being kicked out of the creationist museum, AFTER getting permission to film.
I wish that passers-by in the museum would vocally critisize these tours...politely and with kindness, as not to disturb the children, but with a critique or comment that might encourage the children to entertain alternative ideas to their religion.
Fossils are far from boring. They provide an intriguing mystery and show very interesting and beautiful skeletons of long since extinct animals. There is nothing boring about them.
If any Creationist tour guide brings a group of kids into a proper museum and starts spouting crap to them, then I would have security throw out the adults in charge. That would leave the kids to explore the museum for themselves, if they chose.
how do we date the layers? we take a molechyle sample of desidy and caculate how long it takes to form. thats the old way atleast. now we have dating methods.
8:25 Seriously... I agree. It kills me that most people are stupid and have no interest in "uncool" science "stuff"... and of course the dumber they are the more they think they are genius's... not questioning anything around them but blindly believing in bullshit and living every day miserable and not knowing why...
Is it alright if some people find particular fields of science boring? Like, I find biology and geology interesting, but chemistry and computer science, not so much...can there be a person that genuinely isn't interested in science, but the lack of interest doesn't mean they have their own hidden agenda?
Whoops, almost forgot Sensibility over Morality. Those two followers [right over the cliff that is!] really should listen to what comes out of their mouths.
Progression over Tradition FACT over Faith Conscience over the lords voice of Delusion Reality over Theory Compassion over Irrational Behavior Tangibility over the obnoxious mystery of god. ...God OWES US ALL one big fat explanation. ...If it exists. Refuse to stop thinking. Teach unity Teach civility HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Nope, radiometric.... carbon dating is a radiometric measurement (Isotope C-14) that can be used on fossil that contain carbon that is less than 65,000 years old. If older , they use other radiometric measurements. :)
You know,the way I see it,if some people are trying to force religion into schools & politics then shouldn't science be taught in church and sunday school? I'd love to see the reaction of religous fanatics if such a law to enforce science lessons into sunday services were ever passed.I think I'd be smiling from ear to ear.
I heard some dork claim that the mention of 'dragons' in the Bible is actually a reference to dinosaurs. Clearly another 'truther' in a delusional sewer.
Yep, I've heard that claim plenty of times. Actually, there is a connection to dragons and Dinosaurs, just as there's a connection to unicorns and certain types of goats, Mermaids and Manatees, and of course, Dinosaurs and the chinese Tatsu (dragon), Gryphons, Hydras, Giants, Titans, and the Cyclops was inspired by Mammoth skulls. in other words, precisely the same logic can be used to varify Greek mythology.
i wonder if the people running these trips can be arrested for child abuse? to me this deliberate falsification of facts given to these kids is going to give them mental issues in the future. there may be a precedent here...
Just like the Weekly World News sales figures show, people believe what they want to believe. Objective scientists and free thinkers subscribe to what empirical evidence dictates. The real shocker here is that they are knowingly misleading children.
If I worked at the musuem, I'd be right on their tails, disproving every single thing they mention.
I mean, if they're allowed to host bullshit-tours, I'm allowed to talk to people as well. If I happen to be right next to the moron talking, then so be it.
That's right, that's what they SHOULD do. If they come to mY museum, I'm hiring someone to come allong with the tour and point out the problems with everything the Cdesign Proponentsists say.
Teaching kids this crap is like talking candy from a baby. The only difference is that the kids don't know they're even losing anything (intelligence, ability to think for themselves, etc) and the baby would notice the missing candy.
I want to hear about your philosophy, I am an objectivish person, I always found you reasonable but never understood what exactly you dislike about Rand (you mention her all the time) , since you are a humanist who favors reason over faith. It must be her political views.
Well, partly I don't like her ideas about favouring rich people over poor people, and also she promotes selfishness. My brother's selfishness makes Rand look like Santa. (He's a drug adicted convicted criminal, less said the better).
As for MY philosophy, Logical Khama, it's fairly simple really. Unlike Budhist Khama, Logical khama has nothing to do with magic, inanimate objects or past lives. but it has allot to do with how people treat eachother.
The basic idea is that the way you treat people crates its own rewards or punishments. The rewards can range from simply being smiled at to haveing statues erected of you, and the punishments can vary from people not lending you money to jail to being hung from your heals or committing suicide in your bunker while the russians take over the city above.
Sometimes, Logical Khama, either good or bad, can build up for years. For example, if you're an asshole to everyone for years, eventually you can get kicked out of the family.
Thats interesting, sorry about your brother. Your brothers selfishness is selfishness without a self. It seems in todays society your choices are be selfless with conviction or be selfish without convcivtion. I am selfish in the same sense that socrates or jesus was (yes jesus is more selfish than your brother). Those people are willing to be content with their convictions without the aproval of society.
are you sugesting a steady state universe? a universe that has already existed and will for all time. That's fine, but how can this be when the evidence of the "Big Bang's" explosion can be seen in the expansion of our universe, although unlike smaller explosions the universes expansion is not uniform. However it's very likely that time as we know it is not sequitar and the areas with more or less expansion are merely differnt temporal zones in space-time.
I don't propose a steady STATE universe, but a steady SUBSTANCE. That is whatever the substance of matter and energy actually is. Matter has always existed, I have no idea why it has this particular form now.
Great time to play the bullshit card. I love my bullshit card.
HimesInu 7 months ago
religion is like a penis
its okay to have one and its okay to be proud of the one you got
but dont ever take it out in public and dont try shoving it down my throat.
thesageofohio 8 months ago 3
And they had time to cover dating methods, because they covered dating methods... or covered-up I guess.
no2religions 8 months ago
In here you wonder that, if because real museums allow creationist to do a tour, then would realists be allowed into their churches, etc... Well, there is a video here PZ Myers being kicked out of the creationist museum, AFTER getting permission to film.
no2religions 8 months ago
I wish that passers-by in the museum would vocally critisize these tours...politely and with kindness, as not to disturb the children, but with a critique or comment that might encourage the children to entertain alternative ideas to their religion.
xander55577 9 months ago
Fossils are far from boring. They provide an intriguing mystery and show very interesting and beautiful skeletons of long since extinct animals. There is nothing boring about them.
Jonstern1983 10 months ago
My favorite movie is Clerks.
Jonstern1983 10 months ago
Could you bring the video - without your comments?
I really could use this - I´m a biology teacher. So please?
ThePatruljen 10 months ago
If you openly take the piss inside the "Creation Museum", security will throw you out.
jazzx251 1 year ago
If any Creationist tour guide brings a group of kids into a proper museum and starts spouting crap to them, then I would have security throw out the adults in charge. That would leave the kids to explore the museum for themselves, if they chose.
jazzx251 1 year ago
They can't stop and read the plaque on radiometric dating because it has too many big words on it.
panterguy 1 year ago
3:36 you are wrong. I do that.
Shrubbist 1 year ago
how do we date the layers? we take a molechyle sample of desidy and caculate how long it takes to form. thats the old way atleast. now we have dating methods.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
the stupid....it burns!!!
Ch35h1r3C47 1 year ago
this is fucking hilarous. i always thought creationists were dumb but HOLY SHIT.
nugguluspotomas 1 year ago
what about God involved in evolution?
helpmetony 2 years ago
8:25 Seriously... I agree. It kills me that most people are stupid and have no interest in "uncool" science "stuff"... and of course the dumber they are the more they think they are genius's... not questioning anything around them but blindly believing in bullshit and living every day miserable and not knowing why...
DistortedSmiles 2 years ago 2
It kills me when they can say things like, ''The Grand Canyon proves there was a flood."
gregrutz 2 years ago 2
Those brainwashing creationists piss me off. They are programing those innocent kids to be idiots.
EnigmaHood 2 years ago 3
Enigma
It's sad. How many do you think rebel against this stuff when they get older and learn more.
Perhaps they go to places like L:iberty U. and never have to think about real science.
KonradAdenauer 2 years ago
Is it alright if some people find particular fields of science boring? Like, I find biology and geology interesting, but chemistry and computer science, not so much...can there be a person that genuinely isn't interested in science, but the lack of interest doesn't mean they have their own hidden agenda?
sthebg20 2 years ago
Evolution is just a theory!! Them fossils were just a Jesusly rouse to throw the non believers off the sent.
DOYLERULES69X 3 years ago
Lol... Heh.. Ah, you're in denial :)
WTFLEETERS 2 years ago
wow your an idiot.
FullTimeGunner 2 years ago
You just proved that sarcasm is lost on the retarded.
DOYLERULES69X 2 years ago
Gee, my brain just shat out some more of whatever to call these connections of word thoughts!
Sensibility over Morality
Optimism over Pessimism
Knowledge over Gullibility
Reference over Superstition
Productivity over Stagnancy
UNITY OVER DIVISION
And DINOSAURS RULE!
kingkongpingpongdong 3 years ago
Whoops, almost forgot Sensibility over Morality. Those two followers [right over the cliff that is!] really should listen to what comes out of their mouths.
kingkongpingpongdong 3 years ago
kingkongpingpongdong 3 years ago
I feel so sorry for theese kids... :(
KamratSvenneryd 3 years ago
I meant to give you a thumbs up [my arrow does that sometimes when sliding around...kinda shocking sometimes] ..sorry.
kingkongpingpongdong 3 years ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the method used to date fossils called radiocarbon dating?
teniguafez 3 years ago
Nope, radiometric.... carbon dating is a radiometric measurement (Isotope C-14) that can be used on fossil that contain carbon that is less than 65,000 years old. If older , they use other radiometric measurements. :)
summoncaster 2 years ago
At the five minite mark I beleive the word you are looking for is "paleontologist" not "archaelogist".
ShadowPa1adin 3 years ago
What a bunch of idiots. But I do pity those children.
rudyroughnite 3 years ago 3
I thought this young earth creationist will never understand science.
They are bad in math, logic, reason. All theyre good at is faith.
maybe when they demand for a transitional species of humans, we should point at them as a transitional species to us.
emancoy 3 years ago
You know,the way I see it,if some people are trying to force religion into schools & politics then shouldn't science be taught in church and sunday school? I'd love to see the reaction of religous fanatics if such a law to enforce science lessons into sunday services were ever passed.I think I'd be smiling from ear to ear.
seeleunitone 3 years ago 7
I'd like it iof that happend.
dechha1981 3 years ago
Notice how those creationist douchebags use 80% of their time shit-talking real science instead of letting their own "science" speak for itself?
GypsyWytch13 3 years ago 2
Piles of dead things? Hahaha! I wanna ask those guys something...Where in the bible does it state or describe dinosaurs?
geroldkid 3 years ago 4
I find that funny, cause fossils aren't dead things... the dead thing is gone... only the fossil that surrounded that dead thing is still there.
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago 4
I heard some dork claim that the mention of 'dragons' in the Bible is actually a reference to dinosaurs. Clearly another 'truther' in a delusional sewer.
luerwulf 3 years ago
Yep, I've heard that claim plenty of times. Actually, there is a connection to dragons and Dinosaurs, just as there's a connection to unicorns and certain types of goats, Mermaids and Manatees, and of course, Dinosaurs and the chinese Tatsu (dragon), Gryphons, Hydras, Giants, Titans, and the Cyclops was inspired by Mammoth skulls. in other words, precisely the same logic can be used to varify Greek mythology.
dechha1981 3 years ago
i wonder if the people running these trips can be arrested for child abuse? to me this deliberate falsification of facts given to these kids is going to give them mental issues in the future. there may be a precedent here...
hellshade2 3 years ago 4
"we can't cover everything..." here's the translation:
we can't cover anything that might expose our bullshit to the kids......
hellshade2 3 years ago 5
You're even debunking the guys we agree with. lol. :p The last bit didn't need any comments.
Brianswers 3 years ago
science is boring? the bible is boring!
C0ct0pus 3 years ago 2
The Bible serves a more useful function as bathroom tisse.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago 10
True, and it also can be used [depending on how thin the pages are] as cheech and chong rolling papers.
kingkongpingpongdong 3 years ago
You gave me an idea. Papers I can market bathroom tissue with George W. Bush's face on it.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
great points dechha...5/5
C0ct0pus 3 years ago
JOES APARTMENT YEA!
you should watch expelled by the way. you know if you want to be bored for about 90 min.
cartier117 3 years ago
I cannot help but feel sickened as I watch those assholes purposefully lie to children to keep them insular and ignorant for profit.
Favourite part has to be when he lies about how dating is done, and then it cuts to the next section which is radiometric dating.
Xorinite 3 years ago
Just like the Weekly World News sales figures show, people believe what they want to believe. Objective scientists and free thinkers subscribe to what empirical evidence dictates. The real shocker here is that they are knowingly misleading children.
kff 3 years ago
You're a humanist. I'm pretty sure of that. Inventing your own philosophy is a -good- sign that you are a humanist. :-)
Stryder467 3 years ago
If I worked at the musuem, I'd be right on their tails, disproving every single thing they mention.
I mean, if they're allowed to host bullshit-tours, I'm allowed to talk to people as well. If I happen to be right next to the moron talking, then so be it.
alcari 3 years ago
That's right, that's what they SHOULD do. If they come to mY museum, I'm hiring someone to come allong with the tour and point out the problems with everything the Cdesign Proponentsists say.
dechha1981 3 years ago
Teaching kids this crap is like talking candy from a baby. The only difference is that the kids don't know they're even losing anything (intelligence, ability to think for themselves, etc) and the baby would notice the missing candy.
ZombieGuy1 3 years ago
The evidence of God's judgment against a sinful world?? What?
sparklingcolors 3 years ago
Why are they teaching these kids ignorance?? I feel sorry for the kids.
sparklingcolors 3 years ago
Because they're afraid to go to hell if they don't. I feel as sorry for the idiots talking as for the kids.
alcari 3 years ago
I can't feel sorry for these idiotic adults. They are grown and in denial.
sparklingcolors 3 years ago
Turning their backs to the evidence, that was hilarious.
Fossils are boring? Why don't you blame your god for that, he is the one, you believe, that killed them.
Saukko31 3 years ago
I could Imagine 7 Billion personal Universe's...I can relate to that.
dagawker 3 years ago
I like sex! I am now sexist?
dagawker 3 years ago
The United States is fucking embarrassing.
Brainwashing children is sad in the extreme. :(
OnTheFritz602 3 years ago 3
I was kind of laughing at the stupidity of the people giving the tour in this video but at 10:35, I just felt sick to my stomach.
donnieharrison2 3 years ago 2
I want to hear about your philosophy, I am an objectivish person, I always found you reasonable but never understood what exactly you dislike about Rand (you mention her all the time) , since you are a humanist who favors reason over faith. It must be her political views.
AnarchyIsForMe 3 years ago
Well, partly I don't like her ideas about favouring rich people over poor people, and also she promotes selfishness. My brother's selfishness makes Rand look like Santa. (He's a drug adicted convicted criminal, less said the better).
As for MY philosophy, Logical Khama, it's fairly simple really. Unlike Budhist Khama, Logical khama has nothing to do with magic, inanimate objects or past lives. but it has allot to do with how people treat eachother.
dechha1981 3 years ago
The basic idea is that the way you treat people crates its own rewards or punishments. The rewards can range from simply being smiled at to haveing statues erected of you, and the punishments can vary from people not lending you money to jail to being hung from your heals or committing suicide in your bunker while the russians take over the city above.
dechha1981 3 years ago
Sometimes, Logical Khama, either good or bad, can build up for years. For example, if you're an asshole to everyone for years, eventually you can get kicked out of the family.
dechha1981 3 years ago
Thats interesting, sorry about your brother. Your brothers selfishness is selfishness without a self. It seems in todays society your choices are be selfless with conviction or be selfish without convcivtion. I am selfish in the same sense that socrates or jesus was (yes jesus is more selfish than your brother). Those people are willing to be content with their convictions without the aproval of society.
AnarchyIsForMe 3 years ago
Universe is eternal, Why is this hard to understand.
AnarchyIsForMe 3 years ago
are you sugesting a steady state universe? a universe that has already existed and will for all time. That's fine, but how can this be when the evidence of the "Big Bang's" explosion can be seen in the expansion of our universe, although unlike smaller explosions the universes expansion is not uniform. However it's very likely that time as we know it is not sequitar and the areas with more or less expansion are merely differnt temporal zones in space-time.
redrevenger89 3 years ago
I don't propose a steady STATE universe, but a steady SUBSTANCE. That is whatever the substance of matter and energy actually is. Matter has always existed, I have no idea why it has this particular form now.
AnarchyIsForMe 3 years ago
Duuhhh. Ah don' need no books, dem's readins is hard. Only book ah need is the bahble.
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