I live in Sweden and health care here is a mess. Corruption in the government sector, and the waiting is horrible. Now I don't endorse the current system in America, but the statements that Lee pointed out sounded pretty good in my opinion.
So much for the theory of cutting taxes to the rich creates more government revenue. Hey we are still under George Bush's tax cuts for the rich, remember this super recession, real estate crash and bank crash started 2 years before Obama was even elected. What would have been different had that brainless Palin been elected, 20% unemployment? And I think she would have quit by now, so she could go on a book tour.The name of her first book should have been I don't know jack shit about anything.
The whole, drop in tax revenue thing probably has something too do with the recession, it's logical that people wouldn't be able too provide as many tax dollars if they don't have jobs.
Hey Mr Doren .... Guess what, The Bush tax cuts are still in effect that would be 9 years now, where are all the jobs..... the Current capital gains rate is 15%..... 13% less then Ronald Reagan's last year as President, so tell your Rich country club snobs to get start Creating Jobs here in the good OLd U.S.A, instead of communist China.
Obama and the libtards revere FDR who plowed under millions of acres of food when people were starving, he goated the Japanese into Pearle Harbor to help Stalin not stop Hitler. He also stopped freedom of speech. Now the same from Obama, more wars, more missiles, a colossal deficit, death panels, an illegal gangster government.
free dumb fuck -- FDR never plowed over an acre you fucking idiot. Do they really let idiots like you out on the street?
FDR put a lot of people working - and farming. In fact dumb fuck, he is the one that made sure farmers got a livable price for their food so that more farmers would farm.
Obama is closing farms now in California. You Obamatards can use all the obscene language you want. Like Obama you're thin skinned and are obsessed with shutting down free speech. That only boosts the morale of any decent citizen. My source is Peale Harbor Magazine. Yes, FDR was a liberal monster like Maobama. .
Yeah, I saw Obama shut down a farm in CALIFORNIA. He took time out of his quest for listening devices in white pussy, to close down 50 farms and tack signs on them that said " This is not farm, I closed it -- Obama"
You don't understand the "whys" for any of those. Like the FDA: It is to their benefit to make sure drugs don't get used unless they pass rigorous tests. This sounds good on the surface right? If you look closer, you realize that you end up costing more lives because drugs that wind up being good get held back from use for years and sometimes more than a decade which also results in the deaths of those who could have used them. Does that make sense? It also drives up costs and blocks new competi
Are you kidding me? Since the FDA doesn't approve drugs fast enough it kills people. The logic is sketchy. You know what else sucks, ambulances. They take so long! How many people have died because Ambulances are too slow. We should just get rid of them.
The FDA is not perfect, but I would much rather have some form of regulation in place in order to make sure I don't ingest lethal bacteria from eating peanut butter or cilantro. What would do a better job?
"Are you kidding me? Since the FDA doesn't approve drugs fast enough it kills people."
Yes. It makes complete sense. People don't get access to these drugs and because of that they die. You don't see these numbers but it isn't a difficult link to see they would exist and that the time taken to approve drugs would increase in general because letting something bad through would cause problems for the humans in charge of the FDA.
Euro dumb fuck -- to a lunatic like you, anything makes sense.
Because people still committ crime, you want to get rid of criminal courts?
Because people still die of illness - you want to get rid of medicine?
Because people still shit - you want to get rid of toilets?
Dumb fuck -- so what if some drugs are released too soon or not soon enough for you, ,fuck head? That doesnt mean you get rid of something - idiot -- just cause it doesnt suit you,
Hmmm.. a response that is full of name calling and (hopefully) playing dumb. I can see you weren't worth responding to. Why don't you go debate the third graders since they're on your level. Wait, I just insulted the 3rd graders. Darn it!
This provision will not work as it still panders to
Big Pharma and the Insurance Thieves. It will not lower fees on prescriptions they will be subsidized. Most countries use tax dollars to cover health care. It has to. Especially when there are so many people unemployed.
I would use a horse and buggy. Raise taxes on the top 1 percent they can pay. The reason tax
revenue is low because of the Bush admin pandering to the elites.
I thought you guys said everything government sucks. No one will sign up for government health care because according to you it will suck and private care will be all the rage.
Except that they will be able to subsidize it with money forcibly taken from taxpayers so that it is artificially cheaper than private insurance. In other words, some people will have to pay for it whether they use it or not. This isn't an example of free-market competition. If the government wanted to set up its own health insurance agency with NO special privileges or subsidies, I would be A-OK with it.But they won't,because they can't run anything efficiently.
The health care system has been misdiagnosed by the government, the government wants to treat the symptom rather than the disease, the symptom being the inaccessibility to health care - the real problem being a general lack of doctors, and the cause of that problem being government regulations, high standards, high costs for medical school, expensive legal liabilities. Which are all unintended results of government and Fed policy undermining the supply of health care.
Your perception that lawyers are multiplying like rabbits only proves my case, the more explicit the obligation of risk the less chance there is of legal action, if both sides of an agreement know exactly where the liability lies, then they are more likely to resolve it outside of court.
Complex laws and regulations are the reason there are so many lawyers, because you need a dedicated person to understand all the rules.
We need doctors to multiply like rabbits, so that the cost decreases.
Probably has to do with the fact that there's more people who can bullshit about interpreting state legislation than can accurately diagnose or effectively treat a disease.
The faster our country goes down the toilet the more the left insist everything is just fine. I guess the silver lining is the left won't stay in power long.
Dude, "clunkers" is a fucking scam. It's just to put you back in debt. Think about it. You trade in your care for a "rebate" of 4500, then you're back in the same place you were to begin with. Paying off the BRAND NEW car. Back in debt. Notice the gov. won't just strait up give us the money, even though it's OUR tax dollars? It's a charade, people!
It takes no resources other than sugar to make a sugar pill. You can potentially have hundreds of these manufacturers each with better claims, and or lower prices. A legit drug manufacturer needs to invest time and research to actually develop something that works, but only cures 1 of the 5 claims that the sugar pill manufacturer advertises. How many people gets screwed before the free market finds this effective drug? It is in the public's best interest for the FDA to settle this stuff out.
No, there are many, many "regulations"-either imposed by statute or bureaucratic fiat-that go far beyond protecting against fraud. In general, the anti-fraud tradition in the common law would be enforced by a tort brought against the individual committing the fraud in court, with a trial by judge or jury at the choice of the plaintiff, not the extra-judicial coercive bureaucracy we have now. You need to understand the difference between common law, statutes, and bureaucracy-imposed rules.
our country (usa) needs a revolution (not fighting) we need to phisically get into office and do what needs to be doing and not be greedy about it like all politicians are i dont mean run for president run for your local government evry little bit helps we need to change before we turn into another china we being slaves, SLAVES!!!! to the government take my words to heart and think about it ppl
Remember the FDA is only part of the problem. Even after a drug enters Phase IV, The DEA requires insane amounts of paperwork for doctors and Pharmacists to order and distribute those drugs more paperwork requires more man-hours thus more staff, higher costs! Then there's corporate taxes that raise overhead of the Manufacturers.
the bottom line is that drugs perscribed or not are going to kill people. people will not take a drug if they feal the risk outways the potential benefits however, for the man that has a week to live I don't think he really cares.
If the government would be involved far less we would probably have a cure for aids and most forms of cancer by now.
anyways, I wasn't arguing with you I agree with you completely
On the FDA: yes, that's an excellent point about the unseen effects of drug regulation, but even taking into consideration ONLY the "benefits" of the FDA there are huge human costs. Because the stamp of "FDA approved" has come to mean "totally safe and harmless" there are no private, competitive bodies to examine FDA approved drugs. This generates huge moral hazard in health care by guaranteeing the safety of government approved drugs like Vioxx. Personal responsibility is lost and people suffer
couldn't agree more even after the fda approves something that doesn't mean its safe...
after all we are talking about the government agency that requires you to have a perscription for anti-smoking drugs but not for smoking...
how insulting the FDA approves big tobacco but a company comes up with a drug to combate the addictive substance that WILL altimately kill its user and the FDA says it might not be safe?
Obama's health idea is a ponzi scheme, the next bubble. Then Social security...the last ponzi scheme. When will people realize, you need to be self sufficient.
and as there is more money in circulation, it is more likely that, my paycheck will increase, perhaps not proportional to inflation, but regardless, it will be easier to make payments on that 200k loan. won't it?
i'd like to play devil's advocate for a moment. is inflation really that bad? let's say i take out a loan on a 200k dollar house today. and over the next ten years inflation hits, basically devaluing the dollar to half of what it's currently worth. so in stead of my house being worth 200k, it's now worth 400k (assuming the value did not appreciate), but i'm still making payments on a 200k loan. won't i benefit from this situation?
No because you misunderstand the meaning of inflation. it doesn't mean that a currency is stronger. in reality it becomes weaker because it takes more money to buy goods and services. inflation devalues money.
Tax revenues mean little to all levels of government. Governments need only to exchange their bonds for dollars. This is how governments continue spending with borrowed money which sets up higher inflation which is a hidden tax that the masses are too dumbed-down to comprehend. We earn our dollars no government in the U.S. has earned a penny! They continue stealing the people's wealth through inflation and the continued issuance of dollars through government loans. What a scam!
Think about it. The public insurance option will not require marketing costs and will not require that the govt run insurance company make a profit. This is what saves on expenses with the public insurance option, not taxpayer subsidies. At first I thought you were just confused. Now I'm begining to believe that you are being intentionally disingenuous.
I'm happy that you were able to go on TYT and Cenk was able to elucidate your confusion about the public option. One might even say that he schooled you on the public option. Your recent retort that premiums will not cover the expenses associated with the public option and tax payers will have to pick up the rest of the bill is contradicted by the congressional budget office report that shows that the public option will save tax payers 150 billion $.
Man.. you are so right with the chavez comment I had to comment, their ignorance supporting or/and admiring dictators like chavez and castro is just extremly stupid their excuse bei chavez is that he was democraticly elected SO, his actions is what makes him a dictator not have he get there! I'm still a "Obama-Zombie^" :)but his handling of Honduras conflict desapointed me greatly as a Honduran just like the most of the Honduran in USA but most of them are "wettbacks" so.. He dont Care.
ok i live in sacramento and i've talked to a lot of russians and western europeans alike. well hey, you would pay premiums cause when you do, the people at the hospitals aren't mean to you. simple as that. i swear to god. they are rude when you have the unisversal. they are nice when you go through a private plan. and you would be surprised at how many people actually went the way of the private plan.
DMV's close....the courts are closed on certain days....public employees are getting furloughed....Social Security can't function, Medicare is bankrupt.....Public schools can't teach.....Political coruption....AND NOW YOU WANT TO PUT HEALTHCARE IN THIER PAWS?
LOL...that is true...there goes more of the economy down the drain.....the healthcare industry will flop......? Funny...it is true...who in the hell would carry thier own insurance when they are getting taxed to hell to pay for the governments plan. Just like Public school....anyone out there have thier kids in private school....or should I say A REAL SCHOOL!
Ok, you get an AWESOME rating, just for correctly using the word "actuary" in any form and context whatsoever. Listen to the actuaries, Obama! They know what they're talking about!
and what is the conservative approach to fixing the tax revenue problem? ah yes. get rid of income taxes and impose a 23%(tax-inclusive) sales tax. do you understand what tax inclusive means? it means, of the total price you pay for something 23% of it is tax. so if you pay $100 dollars for something, $23 dollars is tax. so in actuality, you're actually paying 30% sales tax.
but wait it gets better. the fair tax will also be applied to new home purchases. so let's say you buy a house for 150k (before taxes). you're going to pay an additional 45k in sales taxes for that home. and i imagine if you're like most people, you're gonna need to take out a loan to pay at least part of that 195K. well, guess what the interest on that mortgage will also be taxed.
so let's say, you put down 25k on the house. that leaves you taking out a mortgage for 170k. now let's say you take out a 30 yr. loan at 5% to cover that. over that time, you're going to pay nearly 160k in interest, which will have a 30% (48K) tax added to it.
how about you do the math? let's say the average person makes about 40k/yr pretax. and of that 40k, 25% goes towards paying federal taxes. so that means you're paying 10k/yr. now, let's say, you're a new home buyer. and you buy a house for 150k. on just your mortgage payment alone, with a 25k down payment, you're going to pay almost 9k. now imagine food. what would you say you spend in food every year? and how about clothes? and gas... and a car... and utilities...
as for tax revenue being so low, i don't want to make it seem as if i'm going to constantly blame bush for the state the economy is (or more appropriately was) in, but isn't a large part of the reason tax revenue is so low, primarily because of bush? if you want to talk numbers, employment was already at record highs when obama took office. in a previous video you blamed obama for the decline in the stock market. but if you look at the market today, it's back near 10k.
No thats not it. Once the tax rate went up under Obama, and he interfered in contract law, thats when unemployment skyrocketed.You dont tax the hell out of the employers(ie mostly wealthy) becase then they hire fewer/close down/fire employees. You cannot blame Bush for theeconomy nor can Obama take the credit.The market wormholes its way to success on its own.
no. go to the bureau of labor statistics website. you will see the growing rate of unemployment has been taking place for over a year now. from february of last year to february of this year, unemployment steadily climbed from 4.8% to 8.1%.
you posted about 10-15 comments almost all in a row validating my point which i made in one reply with one line of text, sorry i guess i should have expected that needed clarification for you.
Your are exactly right about the impending "national health service". If you're really unlucky then you'll wind up with a system like Britain. A colossal politicised bureaucracy which exists for its own sake and treats its patients with indifference. NHS waiting times and patient survival rates are a catastrophe. Obama is leading you down a well-worn path outside of America. You must stand up to it.
i'd say another problem with the status quo in america on the issue of health care is this concern to extend life as long as possible, but quality of life for some reason seems to take a back seat. call me crazy, but i'd rather live to be 70 and die of natural causes, having only suffered a few years, than live to be 80, surviving thirty or forty years on pain killers and medications for diseases such diabetes.
yeah in the third world you see the "invisible hand" killing thousands each day... because now laissez faire capitalism or "neo" liberalism actualy kills people, if they cant sustain themselves in their current society, they cant move west anymore... i still like to believe that everyone contributes something, maybe thats naive
yeah but what sense of capitalism and mostly at the cost of their local environment and society (nigeria fx) and just been visiting nepal doing some medical aid there, they are without power for hours every day because india has better markets. im not against capitalism in some matters, the free market brings progress, and near-democracy, but what we today call capitalism seems more like protectionism, like GATT, the european union. but capitalism doesnt work as the absolute answer to everything
You're on the right track, my friend. May I point out that the shortcomings you are inferring are easily explained as direct results from the limiting of free trade, in fact there is no true capitalism or free market in the world today, if there were somebody that didn't need a zillion government "certifications" would have long ago found a cheap way to transport electricity to the Napalease people. See: Freakonomics by Steve Levitt, the Probability Broach by Big Head Press, and Reason magazine
have read freakonomics... great book.. but you miss the point of nepal, as far as i were told (!by many different local people thats about as good as the sources get, to tired at the moment tolook for actual numbers) nepal sold 70% of their power to india and they are in theory able to sustain themselves with electricity, thats pure capitalism nevermind the people of nepal, the indian markets pay more. yeah i know that free markets dont really exist just look at the u.s car industry as example..
Thank you, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said on all of your videos. To all the above comments about getting the old cars off the road. My 66' Dodge got 27 mpg. I can't ever be impressed by a car that gets 32mpg 43 years later.
Oh wonderful, the clunkers money is coming from road taxes, so now we have no funds to fix our roads. Sounds like horse and buggy time to me.
I think you need to better understand drugs before you say they save lives. Prescription Drugs are actually harmful to human health over long term use. And illnesses tend to be longer term than the safe period for taking presc drugs. That is another reason why the FDA takes so long before approving drugs, they are not safe materials.
as much as i dislike cash for clunks it does have one good thing about it car sales are up by a good amount and has been a beter stimulus for them then when they just gave them cash
Tax Revenue drops to record levels? Don't worry the FED has plenty of paper and ink.Hows that increased tobacco tax working out for em about now?What? they need more smokers to stimulas the economy?
Holland did the same thing regarding the clunkers. Its economical and enviromental better to get the older cars of the road. this option is the most efficient for those who would get a new car anyway.
Even here, it was a boom and the goverment had to insert money. This money comes out of ready existing road taxes, here in Holland that is..also in america?
one article i would have see you mention, is why in afghanistan dislike the american army to take over the duty of the dutch army.
i do not see the complete relevance, you probably only looked at those costs... but have you also considered the profit.
such as people who stay employed? you dont they just going to throw away those cars? that quite alot of resources you are throwing away then. ever wondered how much of a car can be reused and/or recycled and how much money you can save with that? just to name one thing...
if thats true then who is the "shopkeeper" and who is the "glazier"?
one other question; when refering to wiki, why not also refer to the cash for clunkers (C4C) page on wiki?
on the broken windows fallacy; its says C4C, but with no explanation why.
i do acknowledge you made a valid argument, but we need more data to verify if it is, to what extend. and more importantly; how to prevent similar situations in the future.
Perhaps profit is on a longterm instead of short term...
The the taxpayer is the shopkeeper, and the enslaved autoworker is the glazier.
Alternately, we could say the shopkeeper is paid by Cash-for-Clunky-Windows to break his own windows. Therefore, we could say that private car owners are instead the shopkeepers, but the enslaved autoworkers are still the glaziers.
"Obama annouces "Cash for Clunky Software" trade-in program
President Obama signed the "Cash for Clunky Software" law on Thursday, which pays consumers up to $150 in credit for trading in their Windows-based ..."
Yeah really? In germany we had universal healthcare and our system was one of the top world ranking until some lunatics came up with this privatization crap.
The problem is the money system not tinkering around with the symptoms...
its funny, when you have lower taxes the government actually takes in more taxes due to increased economic activity. you'd think this trend would be noticed.
Commie Hugo Chavez "Democratized" the news by shutting down the only tv station that would criticize him. Just like they want to shut down Lou Dobbs for questioning "dear leader"
You've really got to drop this embarrassing anti-FDA talking point of yours. You are only looking at the cases where the drug turns out to be life saving. You are ignoring all the drugs that are life-threatening.
(It's kind of like ignoring the murder of corrections officers in an argument against the death penalty. Sound familiar?)
You're also ignoring the how many drugs don't even come close to FDA oversight because the drug companies don't bother with things they know the FDA won't approve because they are too dangerous.
There would also be a lot of drugs on the market which are not at all effective and that would certainly hit folk's pocket books.
Can you to elaborate on how expensive all this FDA approval is in dollars?
(Sorry for the double comment. Consider me seething in irritation about your craziness :) )
@judgemartiniz "Can you to elaborate on how expensive all this FDA approval is in dollars?"
We can commpare the prices of identical chemicals marketed as both pharmaceuticals and nutritional supplements. When marketed as pharmaceuticals, they tend to be 10x the price. For example, compare the prices of vinpocetine.
Todays health care cost crisis is widely feared. In a shocking expose, Life Extension uncovers a corrupt regulatory system that causes generic drug prices to be far higher than they should be. A free market solution is proposed that can save consumers up to 94% on generic drugs, slashing prices in some cases to only pennies a day!"
Sorry, I meant could it be the Rx drugs prices are often hidden from consumer because of insurance, so they don't have to hit the same price points as supplements.
Just saw something interesting on CLTV about the Cash For Clunkers plan. According to the story the plan is actually turning out to be a huge success for dealerships and the consumers taking advantage of the plan in Chicago. I know this is just local news but if the plan is working here it probably is also working in other major cities. Any thoughts on this? (I'm neutral when it comes to politics, but this plan doesn't seem all too bad in certain circumstances)
You are wrong when you say people can just sign up for the government option then get immediate treatment. You were right when you said that people shouldn't trust politicians. Politicians say there will be no wait lines.
I see your point about the Public Option though. Even saving on advertising and such, I just don't think the revenue stream will be great enough to overcome the costs.
Of course the premiums won't be enough, especially since they are promising to take on all pre-existing conditions. They are going to be losing money hand-over-fist . Like EVERYTHING the government does.
..and when they do, who do you think is gonna get stuck with the bill??? Taxpayers maybe ?? Ya think ??
"By definition, any drug that comes out approved by the FDA woulda saved more lives if it came out sooner."
Yea, and how many drugs would come out that would harm people, if not for the FDA? How many poor food preparation practices would be used if the FDA didn't regulate some of that?
Yes, some people who died, would have lived if not for the FDA. At the same time, some people who lived would have died, if not for the FDA. I suspect the number of the latter is greater.
Sure it does. By the time the drugs kill the patrons, they've already bought em. Besides, this of course doesn't take into consideration all the drugs that people will put out that wont necessarily kill their customers off, but either A) wont help how it's supposed to or B) causes problems which the company can then sell them MORE drugs to fix.
Well let's assume they sell their pills o' death for $7 a bottle. For every one person that's killed, the legal fees alone for the company to defend itself against the imminent law suit would outweigh the cost of the bottle at least a 1,000 to one. If people are not seeing the desired results from any medication, they will 99 times out of 100 seek a different form of treatment.
when I die I will take a few hundred of your kind with me, I have no fear of death and will fight till death with anyone who hates the racist agenda of white people.
So without the FDA drug companies would release trash drugs and then there would be massive class action claims and drugs would still be expensive..... Just look at China's problem with their milk a few months ago. Regulation has its place.
I live in Sweden and health care here is a mess. Corruption in the government sector, and the waiting is horrible. Now I don't endorse the current system in America, but the statements that Lee pointed out sounded pretty good in my opinion.
DanielSeriously 2 days ago
Univeral Healthcare has been a terrible failure in Europe, Japan, Canada & just about every other advanced nation. [/sarcasm]
Tax revenues fall during a recession, an idiot like yourself should understand this.
eminentgentleman 8 months ago
I watched the whole video, but I only started it because Lee looked like he was crying in the thumbnail.
89Duo 1 year ago
So much for the theory of cutting taxes to the rich creates more government revenue. Hey we are still under George Bush's tax cuts for the rich, remember this super recession, real estate crash and bank crash started 2 years before Obama was even elected. What would have been different had that brainless Palin been elected, 20% unemployment? And I think she would have quit by now, so she could go on a book tour.The name of her first book should have been I don't know jack shit about anything.
mrgetrealpeople 1 year ago
The whole, drop in tax revenue thing probably has something too do with the recession, it's logical that people wouldn't be able too provide as many tax dollars if they don't have jobs.
Hakudohshi 1 year ago
Hey Mr Doren .... Guess what, The Bush tax cuts are still in effect that would be 9 years now, where are all the jobs..... the Current capital gains rate is 15%..... 13% less then Ronald Reagan's last year as President, so tell your Rich country club snobs to get start Creating Jobs here in the good OLd U.S.A, instead of communist China.
mrgetrealpeople 1 year ago
Obama and the libtards revere FDR who plowed under millions of acres of food when people were starving, he goated the Japanese into Pearle Harbor to help Stalin not stop Hitler. He also stopped freedom of speech. Now the same from Obama, more wars, more missiles, a colossal deficit, death panels, an illegal gangster government.
freedomthinker7 2 years ago
free dumb fuck -- FDR never plowed over an acre you fucking idiot. Do they really let idiots like you out on the street?
FDR put a lot of people working - and farming. In fact dumb fuck, he is the one that made sure farmers got a livable price for their food so that more farmers would farm.
Learn the truth you dumb fuck.
SteamboatCamp 1 year ago
Obama is closing farms now in California. You Obamatards can use all the obscene language you want. Like Obama you're thin skinned and are obsessed with shutting down free speech. That only boosts the morale of any decent citizen. My source is Peale Harbor Magazine. Yes, FDR was a liberal monster like Maobama. .
freedomthinker7 1 year ago
Yeah, I saw Obama shut down a farm in CALIFORNIA. He took time out of his quest for listening devices in white pussy, to close down 50 farms and tack signs on them that said " This is not farm, I closed it -- Obama"
Crazy fucks.
SteamboatCamp 1 year ago
This guy is a lunatic. Get rid of safety laws - cause people die from accidents.
Lets get rid of education - because some people are stupid.
Lets get rid of the court system, because there is still crime.
Lets get rid highway cops, because people still speed.
The guy is a lunatic.
NawwLeans 2 years ago
You don't understand the "whys" for any of those. Like the FDA: It is to their benefit to make sure drugs don't get used unless they pass rigorous tests. This sounds good on the surface right? If you look closer, you realize that you end up costing more lives because drugs that wind up being good get held back from use for years and sometimes more than a decade which also results in the deaths of those who could have used them. Does that make sense? It also drives up costs and blocks new competi
eurohim 1 year ago
Nice insight on how people will skip out on premiums until something happens to them. Pretty obviously true once you hear it.
thechonan1980 2 years ago
Are you kidding me? Since the FDA doesn't approve drugs fast enough it kills people. The logic is sketchy. You know what else sucks, ambulances. They take so long! How many people have died because Ambulances are too slow. We should just get rid of them.
The FDA is not perfect, but I would much rather have some form of regulation in place in order to make sure I don't ingest lethal bacteria from eating peanut butter or cilantro. What would do a better job?
mcelaya16 2 years ago
"Are you kidding me? Since the FDA doesn't approve drugs fast enough it kills people."
Yes. It makes complete sense. People don't get access to these drugs and because of that they die. You don't see these numbers but it isn't a difficult link to see they would exist and that the time taken to approve drugs would increase in general because letting something bad through would cause problems for the humans in charge of the FDA.
eurohim 1 year ago
Euro dumb fuck -- to a lunatic like you, anything makes sense.
Because people still committ crime, you want to get rid of criminal courts?
Because people still die of illness - you want to get rid of medicine?
Because people still shit - you want to get rid of toilets?
Dumb fuck -- so what if some drugs are released too soon or not soon enough for you, ,fuck head? That doesnt mean you get rid of something - idiot -- just cause it doesnt suit you,
SteamboatCamp 1 year ago
Hmmm.. a response that is full of name calling and (hopefully) playing dumb. I can see you weren't worth responding to. Why don't you go debate the third graders since they're on your level. Wait, I just insulted the 3rd graders. Darn it!
eurohim 1 year ago
This provision will not work as it still panders to
Big Pharma and the Insurance Thieves. It will not lower fees on prescriptions they will be subsidized. Most countries use tax dollars to cover health care. It has to. Especially when there are so many people unemployed.
I would use a horse and buggy. Raise taxes on the top 1 percent they can pay. The reason tax
revenue is low because of the Bush admin pandering to the elites.
speciesamused 2 years ago
I thought you guys said everything government sucks. No one will sign up for government health care because according to you it will suck and private care will be all the rage.
TheFrankFactor 2 years ago
Except that they will be able to subsidize it with money forcibly taken from taxpayers so that it is artificially cheaper than private insurance. In other words, some people will have to pay for it whether they use it or not. This isn't an example of free-market competition. If the government wanted to set up its own health insurance agency with NO special privileges or subsidies, I would be A-OK with it.But they won't,because they can't run anything efficiently.
nonantianarchist 2 years ago 2
The health care system has been misdiagnosed by the government, the government wants to treat the symptom rather than the disease, the symptom being the inaccessibility to health care - the real problem being a general lack of doctors, and the cause of that problem being government regulations, high standards, high costs for medical school, expensive legal liabilities. Which are all unintended results of government and Fed policy undermining the supply of health care.
Wcoltd 2 years ago
Bullshit. I see Lawyers are multiplying like rabbits. Why? No regulations? Low standards? Cheap law schools? No liabilities?
According to your moronic theory doctor's standards should be lowered (brilliant), no regulations, and cheap college degrees.
TheFrankFactor 2 years ago
Your perception that lawyers are multiplying like rabbits only proves my case, the more explicit the obligation of risk the less chance there is of legal action, if both sides of an agreement know exactly where the liability lies, then they are more likely to resolve it outside of court.
Complex laws and regulations are the reason there are so many lawyers, because you need a dedicated person to understand all the rules.
We need doctors to multiply like rabbits, so that the cost decreases.
Wcoltd 2 years ago
Probably has to do with the fact that there's more people who can bullshit about interpreting state legislation than can accurately diagnose or effectively treat a disease.
nonantianarchist 2 years ago
The faster our country goes down the toilet the more the left insist everything is just fine. I guess the silver lining is the left won't stay in power long.
iron1215 2 years ago
Dude, "clunkers" is a fucking scam. It's just to put you back in debt. Think about it. You trade in your care for a "rebate" of 4500, then you're back in the same place you were to begin with. Paying off the BRAND NEW car. Back in debt. Notice the gov. won't just strait up give us the money, even though it's OUR tax dollars? It's a charade, people!
Orion1232 2 years ago 2
Yes AND they TAX you again on the $4500. Look it up,...it is rediculous!
pieceomeat 2 years ago
Though,HTWW, buddy, change the thumbnail on this vid.
nonantianarchist 2 years ago
Cash for Clunkers, what a stupid idea. Only a big, liberal government could come up with such a piece of shit.
kommisar 2 years ago 2
you look like you've aged 20 years ust in the last 4 months since I clicked on one of your retarded videos last.
Great advertisements though. Top notch there chief.
sell outs. you're all prostitutes.
oldhacks 2 years ago
What prevents drug companies from manufacturing sugar pills and passing them off as an effective drug?
wafflethug 2 years ago
the free market
shawno66 2 years ago
It takes no resources other than sugar to make a sugar pill. You can potentially have hundreds of these manufacturers each with better claims, and or lower prices. A legit drug manufacturer needs to invest time and research to actually develop something that works, but only cures 1 of the 5 claims that the sugar pill manufacturer advertises. How many people gets screwed before the free market finds this effective drug? It is in the public's best interest for the FDA to settle this stuff out.
wafflethug 2 years ago
Well,gee, considering there's a long tradition in common law banning fraud, presumably that part of the common law.
nonantianarchist 2 years ago
Who you do you think enforces the these anti-fraud laws? A regulator perhaps?
wafflethug 2 years ago
No, there are many, many "regulations"-either imposed by statute or bureaucratic fiat-that go far beyond protecting against fraud. In general, the anti-fraud tradition in the common law would be enforced by a tort brought against the individual committing the fraud in court, with a trial by judge or jury at the choice of the plaintiff, not the extra-judicial coercive bureaucracy we have now. You need to understand the difference between common law, statutes, and bureaucracy-imposed rules.
nonantianarchist 2 years ago
In any event, the public first needs get get screwed over before any legal action is taken
wafflethug 2 years ago
Yes, but the fear of consequences may in fact prevent the initial screwing-over. Most regulations are imposed after-the-fact as well.
nonantianarchist 2 years ago
why would anyone want to buy ANYTHING from people who are stealing our money???
stonescourt3 2 years ago
watch?v=ZcsSm4mS8q0
whispers83 2 years ago
our country (usa) needs a revolution (not fighting) we need to phisically get into office and do what needs to be doing and not be greedy about it like all politicians are i dont mean run for president run for your local government evry little bit helps we need to change before we turn into another china we being slaves, SLAVES!!!! to the government take my words to heart and think about it ppl
Somespatanwarrior 2 years ago
Remember the FDA is only part of the problem. Even after a drug enters Phase IV, The DEA requires insane amounts of paperwork for doctors and Pharmacists to order and distribute those drugs more paperwork requires more man-hours thus more staff, higher costs! Then there's corporate taxes that raise overhead of the Manufacturers.
hoppinglark 2 years ago
the bottom line is that drugs perscribed or not are going to kill people. people will not take a drug if they feal the risk outways the potential benefits however, for the man that has a week to live I don't think he really cares.
If the government would be involved far less we would probably have a cure for aids and most forms of cancer by now.
anyways, I wasn't arguing with you I agree with you completely
gtq838 2 years ago
On the FDA: yes, that's an excellent point about the unseen effects of drug regulation, but even taking into consideration ONLY the "benefits" of the FDA there are huge human costs. Because the stamp of "FDA approved" has come to mean "totally safe and harmless" there are no private, competitive bodies to examine FDA approved drugs. This generates huge moral hazard in health care by guaranteeing the safety of government approved drugs like Vioxx. Personal responsibility is lost and people suffer
littlebier8 2 years ago
couldn't agree more even after the fda approves something that doesn't mean its safe...
after all we are talking about the government agency that requires you to have a perscription for anti-smoking drugs but not for smoking...
how insulting the FDA approves big tobacco but a company comes up with a drug to combate the addictive substance that WILL altimately kill its user and the FDA says it might not be safe?
fuck government intervention.
gtq838 2 years ago
the young turds are liberal garbage
theshaggyshow 2 years ago 2
Love your work!
pinegrove33 2 years ago 2
they should be the young turds, fresh young and stinky, and just pooped out
wh1teflower 2 years ago
Thank God for the internet if we didn't have this we'd be suck with MSNBC or CNN lol or Hollywood
davidhammond0203 2 years ago
Obama's health idea is a ponzi scheme, the next bubble. Then Social security...the last ponzi scheme. When will people realize, you need to be self sufficient.
ZullGostnu2 2 years ago 2
People love free stuff. The democrats major party line is, "free stuff".
maytruthwin 2 years ago 2
shocker!
PatricksTime 2 years ago
and as there is more money in circulation, it is more likely that, my paycheck will increase, perhaps not proportional to inflation, but regardless, it will be easier to make payments on that 200k loan. won't it?
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
i'd like to play devil's advocate for a moment. is inflation really that bad? let's say i take out a loan on a 200k dollar house today. and over the next ten years inflation hits, basically devaluing the dollar to half of what it's currently worth. so in stead of my house being worth 200k, it's now worth 400k (assuming the value did not appreciate), but i'm still making payments on a 200k loan. won't i benefit from this situation?
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
No because you misunderstand the meaning of inflation. it doesn't mean that a currency is stronger. in reality it becomes weaker because it takes more money to buy goods and services. inflation devalues money.
vindicato15 2 years ago
Tax revenues mean little to all levels of government. Governments need only to exchange their bonds for dollars. This is how governments continue spending with borrowed money which sets up higher inflation which is a hidden tax that the masses are too dumbed-down to comprehend. We earn our dollars no government in the U.S. has earned a penny! They continue stealing the people's wealth through inflation and the continued issuance of dollars through government loans. What a scam!
nvsyru 2 years ago
Dear Lee,
Think about it. The public insurance option will not require marketing costs and will not require that the govt run insurance company make a profit. This is what saves on expenses with the public insurance option, not taxpayer subsidies. At first I thought you were just confused. Now I'm begining to believe that you are being intentionally disingenuous.
AlohaTexYorker 2 years ago
Dear Lee,
I'm happy that you were able to go on TYT and Cenk was able to elucidate your confusion about the public option. One might even say that he schooled you on the public option. Your recent retort that premiums will not cover the expenses associated with the public option and tax payers will have to pick up the rest of the bill is contradicted by the congressional budget office report that shows that the public option will save tax payers 150 billion $.
AlohaTexYorker 2 years ago
haha nice jacket
SlashIStheShit 2 years ago
Man.. you are so right with the chavez comment I had to comment, their ignorance supporting or/and admiring dictators like chavez and castro is just extremly stupid their excuse bei chavez is that he was democraticly elected SO, his actions is what makes him a dictator not have he get there! I'm still a "Obama-Zombie^" :)but his handling of Honduras conflict desapointed me greatly as a Honduran just like the most of the Honduran in USA but most of them are "wettbacks" so.. He dont Care.
edwardjames81 2 years ago
HTWW, have though of opening a forum?
that way people can actually discuss the (non)sense your telling?
it would also make it easier for others to discuss the points. 500 char. isn't alot.
and it also decreases the amount of comments indirectly to the video,unless HTWW is an attentionwhore who gets a hardon from comments.
prognemesiss 2 years ago 2
Simple...If you don't like it don't comment,don't watch it. BTW you calling a person names is pretty imature.
PivotB3stZ 2 years ago
THIS IS ANOTHER BOONDOGGLE GUYS
Gorevet 2 years ago
ok i live in sacramento and i've talked to a lot of russians and western europeans alike. well hey, you would pay premiums cause when you do, the people at the hospitals aren't mean to you. simple as that. i swear to god. they are rude when you have the unisversal. they are nice when you go through a private plan. and you would be surprised at how many people actually went the way of the private plan.
educatedidiot0 2 years ago
You know whats even more horrible people leaving statistics to argue back with your dull boring ass....damn I guess some people really do care.
RamboLurch 2 years ago
dude honestly no one cares...or atleast no one should.
If you're going to post a video response to Drinking With Bob, don't be boring as hell.
Bob YELLS and its short, sweet, informing, and entertaining.
You are informative yet dull and boring as fuck, which makes your video suck.
You have good points and I agree with you, but you're just as bad as those Turkish guys. I hate them
RamboLurch 2 years ago
What an incitful response, you sir are a moron.
nucleartractor 2 years ago
DMV's close....the courts are closed on certain days....public employees are getting furloughed....Social Security can't function, Medicare is bankrupt.....Public schools can't teach.....Political coruption....AND NOW YOU WANT TO PUT HEALTHCARE IN THIER PAWS?
blldgs101 2 years ago
LOL...that is true...there goes more of the economy down the drain.....the healthcare industry will flop......? Funny...it is true...who in the hell would carry thier own insurance when they are getting taxed to hell to pay for the governments plan. Just like Public school....anyone out there have thier kids in private school....or should I say A REAL SCHOOL!
blldgs101 2 years ago
Another great vid from HTWW! Want to laugh at MoonBat liberals? Check out my page!!!
gworksnell 2 years ago
I like this guy and his message.
zetsway5000 2 years ago 2
I'm glad I live in the UK where we have universal healthcare.
Because, htww, you make me sick.
Oh and whoring after tyt subs now?
tmcthree 2 years ago
how's NICE treatin ya over there in the UK? never mind, i already know...
cdm1972 2 years ago
Oh really?
Do enlighten me.
tmcthree 2 years ago
I'm waiting...
tmcthree 2 years ago
Ok, you get an AWESOME rating, just for correctly using the word "actuary" in any form and context whatsoever. Listen to the actuaries, Obama! They know what they're talking about!
ecsheats 2 years ago
People are stupid ?
So what ?
KtBdOKW 2 years ago
and what is the conservative approach to fixing the tax revenue problem? ah yes. get rid of income taxes and impose a 23%(tax-inclusive) sales tax. do you understand what tax inclusive means? it means, of the total price you pay for something 23% of it is tax. so if you pay $100 dollars for something, $23 dollars is tax. so in actuality, you're actually paying 30% sales tax.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
but wait it gets better. the fair tax will also be applied to new home purchases. so let's say you buy a house for 150k (before taxes). you're going to pay an additional 45k in sales taxes for that home. and i imagine if you're like most people, you're gonna need to take out a loan to pay at least part of that 195K. well, guess what the interest on that mortgage will also be taxed.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
so let's say, you put down 25k on the house. that leaves you taking out a mortgage for 170k. now let's say you take out a 30 yr. loan at 5% to cover that. over that time, you're going to pay nearly 160k in interest, which will have a 30% (48K) tax added to it.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
so in total, you're going to pay 93k in taxes on a 150k dollar house. that's a62% sales tax. yeah, that's fair alright.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
oh and here are some other things the "fair tax" proponents believe should be taxed:
-rent
-interest on credit cards and car loans
-doctors bills
-utilities
-Gasoline (30 percent in addition to current taxes, which would not be repealed)
-legal fees
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
as opposed to just taxing our INCOME, which is used to pay for all of the above and more...
cdm1972 2 years ago
how about you do the math? let's say the average person makes about 40k/yr pretax. and of that 40k, 25% goes towards paying federal taxes. so that means you're paying 10k/yr. now, let's say, you're a new home buyer. and you buy a house for 150k. on just your mortgage payment alone, with a 25k down payment, you're going to pay almost 9k. now imagine food. what would you say you spend in food every year? and how about clothes? and gas... and a car... and utilities...
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago 2
straight talk, wish more people understood what your were saying.
greensquall 2 years ago
as for tax revenue being so low, i don't want to make it seem as if i'm going to constantly blame bush for the state the economy is (or more appropriately was) in, but isn't a large part of the reason tax revenue is so low, primarily because of bush? if you want to talk numbers, employment was already at record highs when obama took office. in a previous video you blamed obama for the decline in the stock market. but if you look at the market today, it's back near 10k.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
*correction... meant to say unemployment was already at record highs... my bad.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
No thats not it. Once the tax rate went up under Obama, and he interfered in contract law, thats when unemployment skyrocketed.You dont tax the hell out of the employers(ie mostly wealthy) becase then they hire fewer/close down/fire employees. You cannot blame Bush for theeconomy nor can Obama take the credit.The market wormholes its way to success on its own.
MSSC73 2 years ago
no. go to the bureau of labor statistics website. you will see the growing rate of unemployment has been taking place for over a year now. from february of last year to february of this year, unemployment steadily climbed from 4.8% to 8.1%.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
translation, this is not obama's fault.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
thanks for coming here and validating my statement.
greensquall 2 years ago
you posted a comment about this misleading people with statistics?
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
*about this guy...
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
you posted about 10-15 comments almost all in a row validating my point which i made in one reply with one line of text, sorry i guess i should have expected that needed clarification for you.
greensquall 2 years ago
ah... sorry, i just wanted to make sure i was being clear why the fair tax isn't so fair.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
don't worry. i'm sure most of these comments will get deleted once htww signs on and sees them.:-P
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
Your are exactly right about the impending "national health service". If you're really unlucky then you'll wind up with a system like Britain. A colossal politicised bureaucracy which exists for its own sake and treats its patients with indifference. NHS waiting times and patient survival rates are a catastrophe. Obama is leading you down a well-worn path outside of America. You must stand up to it.
HarryBallbag 2 years ago
The echo is annoying as all get out.
evashiker12 2 years ago
YAY!!!!!!!
danbrett1 2 years ago
i'd say another problem with the status quo in america on the issue of health care is this concern to extend life as long as possible, but quality of life for some reason seems to take a back seat. call me crazy, but i'd rather live to be 70 and die of natural causes, having only suffered a few years, than live to be 80, surviving thirty or forty years on pain killers and medications for diseases such diabetes.
jesusisintiajuana 2 years ago
I completely agree!
MSSC73 2 years ago
of course does welfare/healthcare cost tax money, thats the idea, everybody chips in for the greater good of society.
mollen19 2 years ago
welfare has really improved the lives of those groups that stay on it... greater good indeed.
cdm1972 2 years ago
yeah in the third world you see the "invisible hand" killing thousands each day... because now laissez faire capitalism or "neo" liberalism actualy kills people, if they cant sustain themselves in their current society, they cant move west anymore... i still like to believe that everyone contributes something, maybe thats naive
mollen19 2 years ago 2
Genius, Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty in the third world than any other source.
HowTheWorldWorks 2 years ago
yeah but what sense of capitalism and mostly at the cost of their local environment and society (nigeria fx) and just been visiting nepal doing some medical aid there, they are without power for hours every day because india has better markets. im not against capitalism in some matters, the free market brings progress, and near-democracy, but what we today call capitalism seems more like protectionism, like GATT, the european union. but capitalism doesnt work as the absolute answer to everything
mollen19 2 years ago
You're on the right track, my friend. May I point out that the shortcomings you are inferring are easily explained as direct results from the limiting of free trade, in fact there is no true capitalism or free market in the world today, if there were somebody that didn't need a zillion government "certifications" would have long ago found a cheap way to transport electricity to the Napalease people. See: Freakonomics by Steve Levitt, the Probability Broach by Big Head Press, and Reason magazine
XanatharEye 2 years ago
have read freakonomics... great book.. but you miss the point of nepal, as far as i were told (!by many different local people thats about as good as the sources get, to tired at the moment tolook for actual numbers) nepal sold 70% of their power to india and they are in theory able to sustain themselves with electricity, thats pure capitalism nevermind the people of nepal, the indian markets pay more. yeah i know that free markets dont really exist just look at the u.s car industry as example..
mollen19 2 years ago
lmfao hahahahhahaha
are you like a clowning on someone. who talks like this any more hahahha.
HAHHAHAHA so renewing people's cars is the equivalent of NOT RENEWING AND GOING BACK TO HORSES????
HAHHAHAHAHHAHA
this is priceless
mahyarmohaghegh 2 years ago
Thank you, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said on all of your videos. To all the above comments about getting the old cars off the road. My 66' Dodge got 27 mpg. I can't ever be impressed by a car that gets 32mpg 43 years later.
Bornonagreenlight 2 years ago
How the world works is the new VenomFangX!Therefore, LOL xD
frittegrabben 2 years ago
frittegrabben: "How the world works is the? new VenomFangX!"
TRANSLATION... `I am a liberal Swed who makes vids of half-naked pretty boys, and can't distinguish my ass from a hole in the ground.'
NoBamaYoMamma 2 years ago
Green Day - American IDIOT. xD
frittegrabben 2 years ago
How interesting that all of the related vidios are TYT vids.
QshesshoumaruQ 2 years ago
youngturks believe everything out of washington...if a democrat says it!!!
PatricksTime 2 years ago
psst..all you have to do is read the bill. HR3200. oh boy its a whoot...err or not.
whippoorwillss 2 years ago
Oh wonderful, the clunkers money is coming from road taxes, so now we have no funds to fix our roads. Sounds like horse and buggy time to me.
I think you need to better understand drugs before you say they save lives. Prescription Drugs are actually harmful to human health over long term use. And illnesses tend to be longer term than the safe period for taking presc drugs. That is another reason why the FDA takes so long before approving drugs, they are not safe materials.
ShereKhanTiger 2 years ago
as much as i dislike cash for clunks it does have one good thing about it car sales are up by a good amount and has been a beter stimulus for them then when they just gave them cash
ibigdog 2 years ago
Tax Revenue drops to record levels? Don't worry the FED has plenty of paper and ink.Hows that increased tobacco tax working out for em about now?What? they need more smokers to stimulas the economy?
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
Holland did the same thing regarding the clunkers. Its economical and enviromental better to get the older cars of the road. this option is the most efficient for those who would get a new car anyway.
Even here, it was a boom and the goverment had to insert money. This money comes out of ready existing road taxes, here in Holland that is..also in america?
one article i would have see you mention, is why in afghanistan dislike the american army to take over the duty of the dutch army.
prognemesiss 2 years ago
prognemesiss - Go sell crazy somewhere else, we are all stocked up here.
putittogether 2 years ago 2
No really, in Holland we had a similar program, though we only scheduled 2 weeks for it.
Also, the reduction was EUR 1000,- , which is (alot) more then USD 450,-
if you don't believe me search for "sloopregeling" in google and enjoy some dutch.
oh, HTWW, that video in you descr.bar, it a regular youtube vid. could you link the original so we can easier verify if its bullshit or not?
prognemesiss 2 years ago
prognemesiss..Did you make your comment before you thought about the population numbers for Holland and the population of the USA?
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
you mean 16M to 304M? yes, and?
i do not see the complete relevance, you probably only looked at those costs... but have you also considered the profit.
such as people who stay employed? you dont they just going to throw away those cars? that quite alot of resources you are throwing away then. ever wondered how much of a car can be reused and/or recycled and how much money you can save with that? just to name one thing...
prognemesiss 2 years ago
@prog "considered the profit.
such as people who stay employed"
Enslaving people is not the same thing as profitting them.
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Broken_windows_fallacy
reason. com/news/show/122019. html
"Make-Work Bias
Where noneconomists see the destruction of jobs, economists see the essence of economic growth: the production of more with less.
Economists have been at war with the make-work bias for centuries."
hitssquad 2 years ago
if thats true then who is the "shopkeeper" and who is the "glazier"?
one other question; when refering to wiki, why not also refer to the cash for clunkers (C4C) page on wiki?
on the broken windows fallacy; its says C4C, but with no explanation why.
i do acknowledge you made a valid argument, but we need more data to verify if it is, to what extend. and more importantly; how to prevent similar situations in the future.
Perhaps profit is on a longterm instead of short term...
prognemesiss 2 years ago
@prog
The the taxpayer is the shopkeeper, and the enslaved autoworker is the glazier.
Alternately, we could say the shopkeeper is paid by Cash-for-Clunky-Windows to break his own windows. Therefore, we could say that private car owners are instead the shopkeepers, but the enslaved autoworkers are still the glaziers.
More on Cash-for-Clunky-Windows for Google:
google. com/search?q=%22cash+for+clunky+software%22
hitssquad 2 years ago
"Obama annouces "Cash for Clunky Software" trade-in program
President Obama signed the "Cash for Clunky Software" law on Thursday, which pays consumers up to $150 in credit for trading in their Windows-based ..."
hitssquad 2 years ago
google. com/search?q=%22cash+for+clunky+shoes%22
"And don't forget Cash For Clunky Shoes."
hitssquad 2 years ago
blogsearch. google. com/blogsearch?q=%22cash+for+clunky%22
"What about a "Cash for Clunky Websites""
"Cash for clunky microwaves."
google. com/search?q=%22cash%20for%20clunky%22
"CASH FOR CLUNKY JEWELRY."
"cash for clunky houses."
"Cash for Clunky Congress"
"Cash for Clunky Furnaces"
hitssquad 2 years ago
XD!
Yeah really? In germany we had universal healthcare and our system was one of the top world ranking until some lunatics came up with this privatization crap.
The problem is the money system not tinkering around with the symptoms...
0PsycoDad0 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Who the fuck is this Latino looking Hitler?
lordcron 2 years ago
its funny, when you have lower taxes the government actually takes in more taxes due to increased economic activity. you'd think this trend would be noticed.
Pvic 2 years ago
Commie Hugo Chavez "Democratized" the news by shutting down the only tv station that would criticize him. Just like they want to shut down Lou Dobbs for questioning "dear leader"
PresidentTeleprompte 2 years ago
I want universal healthcare. so most of this is very good news. not every industry needs to be for-profit, does it?
asphyxiafeeling 2 years ago
profit is a beneficial thing, it allows for growth and quality.
jukiluti 2 years ago 2
not in the hands of the state it doesn't.
Xtro2005 2 years ago
i totally agree with you...
jukiluti 2 years ago
just the ones where you want the producers to have incentive to produce a better product or service
cdm1972 2 years ago
so do u agree with drinkingwithbob most of the time?
nlchamps07fan 2 years ago
He did say he was a fan in his Blog.
Aerodeth 2 years ago
Who the hell cares about the YoungTurks?! They're typical Liberal Fascists who support genocidal dictators.
thomaserossi 2 years ago
government just giving money away
its not their money, what do they care
right263409 2 years ago
You've really got to drop this embarrassing anti-FDA talking point of yours. You are only looking at the cases where the drug turns out to be life saving. You are ignoring all the drugs that are life-threatening.
(It's kind of like ignoring the murder of corrections officers in an argument against the death penalty. Sound familiar?)
judgemartiniz 2 years ago
You're also ignoring the how many drugs don't even come close to FDA oversight because the drug companies don't bother with things they know the FDA won't approve because they are too dangerous.
There would also be a lot of drugs on the market which are not at all effective and that would certainly hit folk's pocket books.
Can you to elaborate on how expensive all this FDA approval is in dollars?
(Sorry for the double comment. Consider me seething in irritation about your craziness :) )
judgemartiniz 2 years ago
@judgemartiniz "Can you to elaborate on how expensive all this FDA approval is in dollars?"
We can commpare the prices of identical chemicals marketed as both pharmaceuticals and nutritional supplements. When marketed as pharmaceuticals, they tend to be 10x the price. For example, compare the prices of vinpocetine.
hitssquad 2 years ago
Also see:
lef. org/magazine/mag2009/mag2009_08. htm
"The Generic Drug Rip Off
Todays health care cost crisis is widely feared. In a shocking expose, Life Extension uncovers a corrupt regulatory system that causes generic drug prices to be far higher than they should be. A free market solution is proposed that can save consumers up to 94% on generic drugs, slashing prices in some cases to only pennies a day!"
hitssquad 2 years ago
Could this perhaps be because OTC drug prices are affected by what private Rx Insurance has agreed to pay for them?
judgemartiniz 2 years ago
@judge "Could this perhaps be because OTC drug prices"
You are referring to aspirin? What would OTC drugs have to do with the topic at hand?
hitssquad 2 years ago
Sorry, I meant could it be the Rx drugs prices are often hidden from consumer because of insurance, so they don't have to hit the same price points as supplements.
judgemartiniz 2 years ago
@judge
There is no more paperwork involved with Rx chemicals?
hitssquad 2 years ago
Nice work! I'm posting this on my facebook.
reallyfun 2 years ago
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Dasllama01 2 years ago
Just saw something interesting on CLTV about the Cash For Clunkers plan. According to the story the plan is actually turning out to be a huge success for dealerships and the consumers taking advantage of the plan in Chicago. I know this is just local news but if the plan is working here it probably is also working in other major cities. Any thoughts on this? (I'm neutral when it comes to politics, but this plan doesn't seem all too bad in certain circumstances)
matrix2287 2 years ago
Still kicking ass bro, stay strong we are counting on you
HelmerandRawlins 2 years ago
You are wrong when you say people can just sign up for the government option then get immediate treatment. You were right when you said that people shouldn't trust politicians. Politicians say there will be no wait lines.
mitchblatt1dot1com 2 years ago
That cleared up a lot of questions, Thanks :)
ALittleBitPregnant 2 years ago
when did he do a debate wth young turks?
ipdddd 2 years ago
just say no to the federal government
andristic 2 years ago
Change, ain't nothing stays the same
Unchained, and you hit the ground running...
mrmanown 2 years ago
hey guess what . hope and change is a sham suckers....obama
jimmymckay73 2 years ago
Great post, spot on.
TPBass1224 2 years ago
I see your point about the Public Option though. Even saving on advertising and such, I just don't think the revenue stream will be great enough to overcome the costs.
CharBroiled04 2 years ago
Of course the premiums won't be enough, especially since they are promising to take on all pre-existing conditions. They are going to be losing money hand-over-fist . Like EVERYTHING the government does.
..and when they do, who do you think is gonna get stuck with the bill??? Taxpayers maybe ?? Ya think ??
bucjason 2 years ago
Spot on.
lancechamplain 2 years ago
On the FDA:
"By definition, any drug that comes out approved by the FDA woulda saved more lives if it came out sooner."
Yea, and how many drugs would come out that would harm people, if not for the FDA? How many poor food preparation practices would be used if the FDA didn't regulate some of that?
Yes, some people who died, would have lived if not for the FDA. At the same time, some people who lived would have died, if not for the FDA. I suspect the number of the latter is greater.
CharBroiled04 2 years ago 2
It doens't profit companies to put out drugs that kill people and it doesn't profit the food industry to kill off its patrons.
dragon521 2 years ago
"It doesn't profit companies to put out drugs..."
Sure it does. By the time the drugs kill the patrons, they've already bought em. Besides, this of course doesn't take into consideration all the drugs that people will put out that wont necessarily kill their customers off, but either A) wont help how it's supposed to or B) causes problems which the company can then sell them MORE drugs to fix.
CharBroiled04 2 years ago
Well let's assume they sell their pills o' death for $7 a bottle. For every one person that's killed, the legal fees alone for the company to defend itself against the imminent law suit would outweigh the cost of the bottle at least a 1,000 to one. If people are not seeing the desired results from any medication, they will 99 times out of 100 seek a different form of treatment.
dragon521 2 years ago
Just a suggestion. Could you stop talking so fast?
Also, please tone down the splicing..the video cuts every 4 seconds
metlguitar02 2 years ago
when I die I will take a few hundred of your kind with me, I have no fear of death and will fight till death with anyone who hates the racist agenda of white people.
trahouston 2 years ago
Piss off zealot.
Moragauth 2 years ago
Good job.
AJSensei 2 years ago
So without the FDA drug companies would release trash drugs and then there would be massive class action claims and drugs would still be expensive..... Just look at China's problem with their milk a few months ago. Regulation has its place.
mattschol 2 years ago 2
Nah, "regulation's" place is the trashbin.
Moragauth 2 years ago