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  • proves that way before iron man they were connecting characters from the comic books together into the universe of film. might not notice and actors change but its in there if you actually take a look. i know people are skeptical about the cameo but its jane's stunt double since they couldn't get jane to do it. it was meant to put a connecting thread into all the marvel films with little cameos here and there.

  • no, it's not the punisher, whoever made this just has an overactive imagination

  • For the official answer, listen to the audio commentary. The man in the dark jacket is played by Michael Owen, Thomas Jane's stunt double from the 2004 'Punisher' movie. His appearance in the scene was intended as a nod to Frank Castle.

  • recien miro punisher y es , muchachos es!!!!!!

  • es bastante parecido :)

  • pisses me off that the third punisher(jane was 2nd, dolph lungren was the 1st) was one of thors buddies

  • Hes walking by thinking to himself "Wtf is wrong with her and shiit people are probably going to think im the punisher oh well"

  • I don't think The Punisher would be caught dead in that coat. If he was wearing a trenchcoat, then maybe.........

  • looks more like randy travis than thomas jane

  • yeah, that is definately not a tom jane cameo. first off, he's got the wrong build and posture, secondly, he nose is too small, head isn't the right proportion, he doesn't have a thick brow, and his facial structure is too thin, anyone who's seen atleast two of thomas jane's films can tell that alone at first glance. to name a few. The Sweetest thing, The Punisher. Deep Blue Sea.

  • I didnt see Michael Jackson anywhere in that clip ????

  • that is not the punisher :/ it is a short black coat as opposed to a long, leather coat the Punisher wears...and it looks nothing like thomas jane

  • Thats not the Punisher. That's Ray Drecker on his way to do a job. Cmon now.

  • si no lo sabes ni te das cuenta jeje

  • howard saint!!!!!!!

  • omg jajajajajajaja loloololololololololololol

  • damn i just noticed how ugly this actress is when tryna copy maryjane blony possin as a redhead = fake

  • Some sites say it's him, others say it's not. And while Frank did debut in a Spider-Man book, I don't see how they could integrate him into a Spider-Man movie these days.

  • 0:06-0:08, Yes its him...there was an idea of putting the Punisher into Spiderman 3, so the movie would stay in the realm of reality and give Spiderman an ally, in the movie they werent gonna use the Sandman, but the Punisher on the streets...Spiderman would learn about the Punisher's deeds on the Daily Bugle...

  • @peleking352 no man, it was seriously a coincidence. Its just a guy who looks like him.

    

  • @peleking352 I think everything you said in that sentence was wrong, sadly sadly wrong.

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  • you guys just went on the web under the search of Mavel Cameos and that is thomas jane dress in all black

  • @eripr3 If you watched the series you'd know that Spider man and the punisher encounter each other every once in a while.

  • why the hell would they put tom jane in spiderman 2 ?? it dose not make sense

    so im pretty sure its not him

    i just had sex..

  • I liked all the punisher movies, even the one with Dolph. they have their own tastes.

  • Not to mention its not Punisher's jacket...more like a members only jacket. 

  • Its not Tom Jane, it was his initial stunt double from the '04 Punisher flick, its an easter egg

  • @StockersBlahBlah Still, it represents the Punisher.

  • @Scoonertuna It's bull without the skull.

  • @StockersBlahBlah

    You're absolutely right about that.

  • thats not tom jane

  • javais jamais fait gaffe

  • thats not thomas jane, thats someone that looks like him.

  • Maybe but his nose is too big

    Probably a Jew

    WTF did I say?

  • looks more like elvis

  • punisher 2 sucks ass.

  • @513MRSHADOW513 There is no such movie

  • @Schabbbe I meant punisher war zone.

  • I paused it right when he was on screen, it's not Thomas Jane, thats a suit-jacket, punisher has a leather jacket, also this guy has a perm

  • I'd beleive it if we could see at least part of the skull on his t-shirt. or a gun...

  • but everyone is staring at here haha pause at :08

  • that does look a lot like thomas jane

  • dude that is not him

  • is chuck greene from dead rising 2

  • He's like - What the f*ck?

  • IMDB says its just someone who looks like Thomas Jane. The fact he slightly resembles the Punisher because he is wearing "all black" is a mere coincidence.

    It is sad though, the Punisher never gets much attention. He must be the most ignored Marvel character ever. Pretty sure hes not even in the new Marvel Vs Capcom, though he was in an older one...

  • @sonic4sale i've posted trivia to IMDB what does this mean? FUCK ALL...........

  • @sonic4sale

    I read somewhere (yeah, I know - everybody talks about the legendary "somewhere"-internet-page, when making stuff up ;) ) that it's actually Thomas Jane's stunt double who indeed is supposed to be a nod to The Punisher. It would make sense, since The Punisher's first appearance was in a Spider Man comic, IIRC. Damn... if only Thomas Jane would've made another Punisher movie. He's the man!

  • No, that's not Thomas Jane as the Punisher nor is it anyone else as the Punisher. Just a blackhaired guy wearing dark clothes.

  • @TheFubbick Thats the thing about shots like that. You can say it is not but others can say it is. Its really a matter of opinion unless the writers comment on it. It looks lot like the punisher but it could be a random guy. But mainly its a movie and not all cameos in movies are credited so its veiwer choice.

  • the avengers shall arise

  • can we say "look-a-like"?

  • He looks more like Frank West

  • @ubaCuba he covered wars ya know........

  • 0:07 pause

  • Castle: The Fuck? I thought I was the only comic book character?

  • Sad...really sad, i see 5 people looking at her, are they punisher aswell?

  • Doesnt look like castle.

  • paus it at 8 seconds and you can clearly see that that is NOT thomas jane.

    Wish it was though so he could hoot that stuck up bitch lol

  • that guy wasn't Castle, you are wrong bro!

  • he didn't have the skull.dough in the comics i remember him concealing it when in public dough so nevermind

  • Wow.. That was awesome..

  • Well Now Im really pissed off why didnt they have the punisher (Thomas Jane) (NOT RAY STEVENS!!!!) Be in Spiderman 3 and he ends up helping spiderman locate Venom and Hunt him Down!!!! Now that would had made a great movie instead of stupid Sandman!!!! You know good in well that people want to see Venom as the Main Villian!!! WAIT NO!!!! Have Spiderman and The Punisher (Thomas Jane) work together to track down Dr Connors (Lizard) Now that would had Been An MUST SEE 3RD MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @outdoorfishin thats just as bad as 3 itself.

  • @trekkerhappy blame Sam Raimy, though yea...its really wrong to have her running through the park smiling insanely.

  • I found this on IMDB:

    Toward the end of the movie, it was rumored that "The Punisher" was noticeable, as that movie was based on a spin-off character from Spider-Man's comic book. This turned out to be false and is only someone who resembled Thomas Jane. This is purely coincidental. He was never intended by the makers to be the Punisher. -- IMDb Trivia: Spider-Man 2 (2004)

  • @TwoSidedDream

    Makes sense, why would they put such a grim character like the Punisher in one of the happiest scenes in the movie.

  • @redcommander27 Maybe the Kingpin was one of the wedding guests. :p

  • Oooh I see. It really does look like him, but the hairline's not quite right. *sighs* Must be the stunt double. ( best double I've seen yet!)

  • @trekkerhappy

    OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!! The Punisher!!!!!! I LOVE HIM!!!!!

    ......I just wish he punished Kirsten Dunst for playing Mary Jane..... =(

  • that guy is not the punisher

  • @fandy1000 I agree!

  • Actually I heard its just some guy who looks like him and turned out that it was just a conicident. Personally, I like the idea of crossover title characters. Too bad these two will never meet cuz now both of their continuity has ended.

  • @RisingVictor you never know, freddy and jason ended, so they might make something along the comics. punisher got his first appearance in a spiderman comic.

  • @kaldicuct most interesting. :)

  • lol doesnt even rly look like Thomas Jane. Theres some similarities, but hardly the man himself..

  • It's not actually Thomas Jane. It's his stunt double from the punisher.

  • @trekkerhappy yeah, I hate MJ! Puniiiiiiiiii, next time holes a nice hole in the head!

  • "Toward the end of the movie, it was rumored that the Punisher was noticeable. This turned out to be false and is only someone who resembled Thomas Jane. This is purely coincidental. He was never intended by the makers to be the Punisher. "

  • Bullshit, the guy in black wasnt the only person who looked at her

  • OH MY GOSH the Punisher!!!!!! I LOVE HIM!!!!!!!!!! =)

    ........I just wish he would've punished Kirsten Dunst for playing Mary-Jane....=(

  • That isn't Thomas Jane though... that's his stunt double Tom McComas.

  • lol

  • Yeah I just looked at it in blu ray not Punisher at all. Just some older looking guy in a black purpelish shirt. I got excited for nothing.

  • it looks like a random guy looking at a women in a wedding dress thinking WTF

  • imdb says its a coincidence

  • its the punisher in his casuals

  • @trekkerhappy  oh, yeah totally!

  • @trekkerhappy she isn't even like that in the comics. she's a much more interesting character. hope she'll be a better actor in the reboot. thank god

  • It was Thomas Jane, He is/was friends with Sam Raimi and they both thought it would be nice too show Frank Castle in a cameo scene.

  • @hulkster46a I find it funny that your lying out of your ass.

  • @Hyde1415 Believe what you want. I'm not the only one who believes its Jane. But if they ever make a Punisher 3, I hope they offer the role too Jane again. He will always be the punisher.

  • @hulkster46a It's not a matter of believing what I want it's not him. It's a white guy with an older looking face and a way bigger head. You have to honestly be stupid to think it's him. Blu Ray, Pause you can see clear as fucking day on my 46'' tv it's not him.

  • @Hyde1415 I wrote the comment a month ago, I guess the bottom line is. Who cares. I definately think Jane makes the best Punisher and the other two are the worst.

  • @hulkster46a It's not the punisher and it's not Thomas Jane. The guy on the left of screen walking the dog is also wearing a black jacket, does that make him the punisher and that is wolverine on a leash. You complete clowns. Acting aside and movie budgets aside : Ray Stevenson's role as the Punisher was the most accurate mould of the true character of Frank Castle. Tom Jane playing the Punisher is the same as a little person/midget playing the Hulk. Not even close on any scale.

  • @pun1978isher Janeadded 35 - 40 pounds of muscle too play the punisher, he also studied the use of fire arms and trained under Navy Seals. He absorbed himself in the role. Stevenson, too me, was just another angry guy with a gun. Like the Dolph Lundgren version, I guess we all have our favorites. But I felt Jane was the best in his version. Him and the director of the first walked, and didn't like the direction the character was taking in Warzone.

  • @hulkster46a Everyone can have favourites, I am fine with that. No comic to movie adaptation is perfect and NEVER will be, but when you are looking for accuracy vs pure entertainment there is a lot of difference. One thing I appreciated in Ray's movie was that every scene only used 3 colours, just like a comic book. The thing I can never forgive in Jane's movie was his neighbours, popping round for drinks & snacks etc that whole 1/2hr should of been cut. He doesn't make friends (has about 3-7)

  • @pun1978isher your an idiot, your looking at the wrong dude.

  • @clovie101 I know which person they are talking about... It is not him, I was just having a joke. Because that's how ridiculous this whole thing is.

  • @pun1978isher i read something on a punisher fan site andit was not actual tom jane but it was his stunt double from punisher so i guess technically punisher did had a cameo here.

  • if that is the punisher he is probably gonna kick some ones ass

  • nope its not him. its written in imdb and how you all know nobody can fuk with imdb

  • @VegetableHero IMDb is a fan base page.

  • Good quality but it's obvious it isn't him.

  • i've got it paused right now. i don't know, i mean it could be Thomas Jane,but you can clearly see that he's not there as the Punisher. If it is Thomas Jane, then he's only there as a movie extra.that's it.

  • Although he does seem to be the only one staring which is peculiar...and of course he's not going to look like Thomas Jane the actor but he does resemble the Punisher except for the trench coat...maybe, maybe

  • Frank Castle wore a trench coat people come on we all know this. Why is there a debate on this lol and that could be any guy just wearing a black jacket and pants.

  • That looks so much like Him

  • nice find.

  • I just watched this clip from the movie on blu-ray, and it's not Thomas Jane.

  • I know its not him but...it kinda looks like him. and I love to think that he went to New York to do his work. Makes it more intriguing I think.

  • first of all. if you wanna know if its thomas jane. watch the actual movie... second... I watched it & even if it isnt him, i still think the intention was to have you assume its the punisher. id like to believe it was. 3rd .. stevenson plays the look better, Jane is just a superior actor. who did his own head throbbing stunts. Ex. the scene where the russian chucks him threw the wall.

  • nope isnt him

  • lol dr strange no no that ones taken

  • That is NOT Thomas Jane

  • @x77benoit

    But Tom Jane was shown the clip and admitted it was him, or so I've heard.

  • @SLPIFan I read an interview with Jane some time ago, he and Raimi are the best of friends. So they thought it would of been nice too have him in the movie.

  • HOLY SHIT!

  • thomas jane was a wicked punisher the new one was wack with some next guy this is a good hidden cameo reminds you of the comic books

  • TJ, is THE punisher. you cannot replace him.

  • @commanderfarvel dolph londgren was the first punisher

  • @commanderfarvel Agreed!

  • Thomas Jane "is" the Punisher. Nothing against the new guy who played the role in part 2 but Jane was made for that role. He a already got that tough guy swagger down in real life,it was only natural that he had it in Punisher. One of the worst mistakes in awhile was letting him walk away from the sequel. Should have given him a better script to work with:/

  • punisher will own spidey!

  • oh wow, i totally missed that the first time i saw this movie

  • Punisher would kick spideys ass

  • thomas jane was a better punisher than that whoever this guy was int this second film!

  • there is also people who believe thats storm and jean grey with the x-men students behind punisher

  • I saw the clip along time ago, it's Jane. He and Raimi are good friends and Jane, being a comicbook fan, wanted too make a short appearance/glimpse in the movie. But notice, it doesn't show him wearing the Punisher Logo, but just the black jacket, clothes, ect. If he were too wear the logo, Lionsgate could of sued too have the whole scene cut, or sue Sony Pictures.

  • its Thomas Jane's stunt double for Punisher actually

  • ya know, this makes me wonder why the punisher was never a villain in the spiderman movies, castle's first ever appearence was in a spidey comic, it would have been a great nostalgic on screen experience...especially thinking about what sam raimi could do with the frank castle charector...makes me kinda wet between the thighs actually!

  • oh please god I hope they hire ray stevenson instead if they are gonna have punisher in one of the spiderman movies.

  • ray stevenson is awful as the punisher, first off hes too short and doesnt look strong enough, he has no charisma, he looks like he never washes, he took himself way to seriously, thomas jane is the best

  • @IndianaJoel93

    wtf? Ray Stevenson too short you gotta be joking he's 6'4, and Thomas Jane who I like and is an awesome actor is 5'11.

  • serious? God, stevenson looks so short on screen, when I first saw that awful movie "PWZ" I thought I was taller than him, I knew thomas jane was around 5`11 or 6 foot, 6`4? wtf

    thomas jane is a legend

  • @IndianaJoel93

    Oh well, I have my opnion you have yours.

  • personally i enjoyed war zone and ray stevenson but the key word is enjoy

    stevenson can't hold a candle...nay...a LIGHTER to thomas jane

    i freakin love the first punisher movie cos its just that AWESOME

    only reason i enjoy war zone is that stuff blows up lol

  • Not him.....

  • thats not thomas jane i read it at imdb

  • its called a marvel camoe skoolby 77

    they do that all the time in marvel movies

  • ahaha lol isnt he suppose to an anti-hero which means he doesent kill people for no reason but that would make one hell of a funny ending

  • Thomas jane was way better!!!!

  • @technomaniac8140 Thomas jane is the real film punisher for me... that one guy is pure BS. =P

    I loved the first punisher film but the second one sucked ass

  • No Doubt But Stevenson Had his Charm. War Zone is Good For what it is

  • @technomaniac8140 didnt think that. the new punisher is way more vingative. like the comics one!

  • agreed ray stevenson rocked as the punisher :D

    (plus it seemed right to have a heavily armed northern irish guy)

  • yeah the first time i got this on dvd i thought it was him and it said Punisher at the way end of the cast credits

  • You're full of shit, The name doesn't appear, and that is not him. Lions Gate refused to license the Punisher movie image to Columbia. There is no way that the 2 film companies would allow it.

  • its him, he ammited it himself

  • thomas jane kicked ass as the punisher the new guy sucked

  • 0:08 - 0:09

    "hmm where is she running off too???"

  • only way to tell if it is him check the credits maybe

    and also if it is him he probably wasted everyone after she passed lol

  • Hopefuly there will be a lot of really good real life comic movies soon. Since the studios now got the possibilities to make all the powers of heroes and villains believable (sort of ;OD). Thanks to CGI!

  • I doubt it was meant to be Frank but it did look like him, lol.

  • they should make a punisher spiderman movie

    but not in spiderman style but punisher style:)

  • He was there scouting Ma Gnucci goons.

  • u knw what would b really cool, if they had more cameos in other heroes films. Alot of the Marvel heroes work in NY, y not have little cameos like this in diff films

  • they don't 'cause different studios own the film rights to different characters

  • sux, it would b cool 2c

  • yeah, luckily they got their shit together with the avengers crew.

  • QFT

  • huh

  • it would be crazy, like they show them talking to them ( would that be going to far?) or they can bump into each other, that would be sick, jessica alba bumping onto peter park?lol

  • what in HD , is tomas jane

  • whoah...! I gotta show my friends these at home!

  • That isn't Tom Jane, that's his stunt double, Tom McComas.

  • hey i never noticed that, thats pretty cool....

  • ...........?

  • little too late for the battle wit doc ock.