I think you may need to look up the definition of "win". The Creationists have a tendancy to set the rules, redefine the terms, move the goalposts, lie, and still manage to look like ill informed fools. Not all of them look as bad as Hovind does, but few of them come out winning. What to Creationists win? Because the redefine the word "win".
Hovind has never "owned" anyone in his life, lying is not owning, the law actually owned him lately. All of his claims against evolution have been systematically debunked and demosntrably disproven.
Creationists have never won any debates, mind giving me one?
Darwin never recanted his theories and it wouldnt matter if he did, evolution is a fact.
Have you ever tried looking up if your position is correct? It looks like you haven't at all.
Fuck if god id real then Lord of the rings i real and im going to go summon a army of orcs / goblins / ring wraiths and fucking sauron himself and rule the world!!! this vid let me see the light thanks Warriorundergod
Try losing the retarded mask and get a microphone that is worth a damn. BTW why is it that you Creationists always fall back to that whining idiot Hovind. You must know that he was convicted on 58 federal counts including terrorist threats , tax evasion, and filing false complaints. Yup that's right, he is in prison for ten years for LYING. He is a liar and you are a cowardly fool. Great choice in role models there sparky. He was also %100 wrong about everything he said about Creationism.
This is my question. Why do creationist ALWAYS focus more on disproving evolution than proving god"? I have never seen a creationist win an evolution debate, they just pull stuff out of their ass. Your last statement is very ironic what if science discovers something that disproves darwin? FYI atheism is the fastest growing group in the US (religious wise)
Sorry to have to call you out on this one boss. But Atheism isn't a religion. Hence the word A - theism. Theism is the practice of religion. And Atheism is the non practice of religion. I can help you understand the language of it better with another example. It is typical for Creationists to sound like whining little pissants when trying to disprove hundreds of years of proven, observable science. While it is atypical for Atheists to put themselves in such a position. Cheers
Last thing i'm going to say. DARWIN NEVER RECANTED ANYTHING ON HIS DEATH BED YOU PATHOLOGICAL PIECE OF CRAP. You are right on course for following good ol' Kenty boy right into the ass raping of your life in prison. Perhaps you would like that though. You seem like the type who would love to be abused by a strong male.
lol your fucking crazy, god is made up so people dont fear death, so they have "something" to look forward to when they die, which is all bullshit and you base your whole life off of a god
HEY JESUS BOY! im going to tell you that your argument IS in fact "FALLIBLE" for the simple fact that you are assuming that we humans have profound evidence that God (Or shall i say the judeo-christian god) exists. All you JESUS BOY are running on is Faith. Darwinists are atleast running on science, which is way more profound than faith. HAVE A GOOD ONE JESUS BOY :)
@NarCal615 we actually have a lot of evidence for what we believe in. first: the bible is one of the oldest books in the world, it was written by a bunch of different people, and it does not contain contradicting teachings/ doctrines. Two: our calendar is based off the death of christ! its 2010 AD (Amino Domini = year of our Lord) and a bunch more.
there is no one who can explain what caused the big bang or why it happened if it did.
i suggest watching "expelled - no intelligence allowed"
The term you are looking for is ANNO DOMINAE.Amino is the fist word in Amino Acid which just so happens to be one of the earliest organic molecules to assemble and ironically are the building blocks of proteins and basically brought about the origin of organic life on this planet. Every living biological life form on this planet have them. How sweet it is that you would make that mistake. You certainly aren't perfect. But take heart little man, Amino acids are the god you seek
Look, the only people that believe creationists win debates are people that do not understand what is being discussed and that value charismatic presentation and arguments that appeal to emotion and bias over experts delivering fact by fact dismantling of the flismy, long ago debunked, arguments.
Uneducated, delusional people who cannot recognize logical fallacy and obvious distortion of the facts will think fools like hovind (who is in jail for tax fraud) win debates.
Who says there aren't scientists on your "side" of God who are trying to spread the truth to you creationist idiots? Why don't you learn both sides of the argument before you try to spout this sad attempt at propaganda?
Nope, instead he had an angel rain fire upon a city of "Sinners" killing owmen, children, men, animals, everything in it. God also flooded the earth, killing all but noah, his family, and their beloveds and 2 of every animal... what a kind man...
Might I add christians also claimed the idea organisms so small we couldn't see them with our naked eye was "Rubbish" and "against god" go figure...
first off... Creationists DO NOT win every single debate... it is the creationists ignore all facts and claim they are still right until the very end. Or like VenomFangX does, they pull the "Screw you guys! I'm, goin home!" and claim a "Win" that way.
"God isn't a human" Then whose image are made made in then his? Lol... owned...
Oh wow this is just too good. About your comment on nukeular bombs... Do you have any idea how many millions of people have died because of chirtainity? More then a neuclar bomb could do. You sicken me with your hypocrisy. And the bibble is a self forfilling proffacy. You fucks get persactued for persacuting other beliefs and life choices.
There is abundently more evidense pointing towards evolution. And no, they dont win every single debate they ignore facts and information and make excuses. Like your a dumb fuck and like its sad and im not just trolling I mean I quit being a christaian after reaching a certian age. Stone your children? Pro slavery? And if you carefuly read the beggining of the bibble you will notice that god is afraid of adam and eve so once they got the knowlage he had to guard the tree of life.
Creationists don't win debates, they just ignore evidence and refuse to admit when they've been proven wrong.
Your soft, undeveloped brain is incapable of understanding a complicated world. Someone should slap the shit out of your parents for allowing you to grow up as such an ignoramus.
simply not true, i have never bare witness to a single case where creationists have trumped evolutionists. The only case where that appears true is to a creationist, its called circular logic:
the bible is the word of god > but how do we know? > because the bible says so > why believe the bible? > the bible is infallible! > how is it infallable? > go back to the start
where is the proof? as you said, man is fallible, so you must consider that you are possibly wrong.
Well first off its only in your view that Creationism wins because of your religious view
2nd, Creationism lost in court & deemed unconstitutional to be taught in school. Then it "evolved" into ID who then lost against evolution in Dover trials & many others, deemed Creationism in disguise
"God didnt make nuclear bomb, he could if he wanted to"
-God didnt make medicine either..
BTW that computer ur using, scientists made that too so stop using it!
They won one? HAHA Kent HO-Man LOL he is such a Joke its spelled HO-Man and he lives in PRISON a child with an education in basic logic can smack a creationist This must be a Satire HAHA
Tell me Creationisim wins the day that they ban the Flu vaccine biology and the DNA tests for babies mommas on Jerry springer.
I don't think anyone Believes you when you say you have even watched a Religious magic vs Science Debate Liar! Sinner fake Hypocrite I hope this is a Satire you so fail Liar for Jesus
To talk about evolution correctly you need to be educated and intelligent. Any dumb shit like hovind or you can repeat what their pastor said about creation.
Always win? The last religious dude I debated spouted crap about Zionists and how I'll go to hell if I don't believe in his God. He offered no evidence to support his claims.
The dude before that did the same thing. He kept saying how I'll go to hell if I don't believe in his God. It seems like a trend to spout bullshit without providing evidence.
Now I understand that there are intelligent Christians out there, but heck I have yet to meet one.
good luck becoming a pastor. you sound like you'll make a perfect one.
i'm not saying that religion has to be completely thrown out. you need to balance your spirituality with your knowledge of the natural world (science). even though i am a biochemist (soon to be a PhD), i'm still a bit spiritual. something had to have created matter. the sheer complexity of our bodies is beautiful. the products of evolution (us and other animals, plants, bacteria,) are so complex u cant even imagine
"i'm still a bit spiritual. something had to have created matter"
You should have researched Physics then. An ice fisherman wouldn't tell a painter how to paint.
Complexity arose from simplicity its only spectacular because you don't understand its simple parts. Cause and effect. We are here because of gradual simplicity not instant complexity
you also commented how science made nuclear weapons.
well i think the majority of wars throughout history have been due to religious conflict.
science continuously changes and becomes more accurate. it fixes it's mistakes. it gets closer to the real answer.
religion is stuck in the past 2,010 years ago, when fishermen attempted to explain lightning by the angry actions of god. now we all know that lightning is just an electrical reaction in the sky.
"mistakes and not being perfect" is the reason we have evolution! DNA polymerase is prone to mistakes, so DNA mutates, and organisms evolve.
man being imperfect has nothing to do with evolution.
if scientists can make mistakes (we can), how about religious leaders and followers? can't they make mistakes. you are basically saying by believing in something infallible (God) you are always right. if i believed that science was infallible, then i would always be right. you make no sense.
If Kent Hovind is the best you can do, you are in trouble. Isn't he the guy that says the Great Flood was caused by an ice meteor? And that the ice at the poles is because the ice was attracted there by magnetic forces? The guy that is serving a prison term right now? Delusion is a powerful thing.
wait I meant to put " " around Dr.
stefaniejw 1 month ago
Dr. Kent Hovind is your star witness? I love this vlog its so fucking funny.
stefaniejw 1 month ago
I think you may need to look up the definition of "win". The Creationists have a tendancy to set the rules, redefine the terms, move the goalposts, lie, and still manage to look like ill informed fools. Not all of them look as bad as Hovind does, but few of them come out winning. What to Creationists win? Because the redefine the word "win".
davidsfriend01 6 months ago
I've never seen a debate between evolutionists and creationists that didn't make the creationists look delusional and uninformed.
ndrthrdr1 9 months ago
Hovind has never "owned" anyone in his life, lying is not owning, the law actually owned him lately. All of his claims against evolution have been systematically debunked and demosntrably disproven.
Creationists have never won any debates, mind giving me one?
Darwin never recanted his theories and it wouldnt matter if he did, evolution is a fact.
Have you ever tried looking up if your position is correct? It looks like you haven't at all.
Feralus69 1 year ago
have you ever seen the cell adhesion molecule laminin? - coincidence? i think not...
mcedsonrunescape 1 year ago
Looking at these comment i can see why evolutionist always wins
and Charles repented and i suggest you all do to .
ONE WAY ...Thats Jesus
DonDaddaDash 1 year ago
Fuck if god id real then Lord of the rings i real and im going to go summon a army of orcs / goblins / ring wraiths and fucking sauron himself and rule the world!!! this vid let me see the light thanks Warriorundergod
WhiteTheTruth 1 year ago
Why do men have nipples if god existed im pretty sure men wouldnt have nipples
WhiteTheTruth 1 year ago
Try losing the retarded mask and get a microphone that is worth a damn. BTW why is it that you Creationists always fall back to that whining idiot Hovind. You must know that he was convicted on 58 federal counts including terrorist threats , tax evasion, and filing false complaints. Yup that's right, he is in prison for ten years for LYING. He is a liar and you are a cowardly fool. Great choice in role models there sparky. He was also %100 wrong about everything he said about Creationism.
nuckelhedd 1 year ago 2
ug every one on youtube is retarded I'm with God on this one. See now I must be right. But I'm posting on you tube so I must be retarded too hmmm .
metalpnx 1 year ago
This is my question. Why do creationist ALWAYS focus more on disproving evolution than proving god"? I have never seen a creationist win an evolution debate, they just pull stuff out of their ass. Your last statement is very ironic what if science discovers something that disproves darwin? FYI atheism is the fastest growing group in the US (religious wise)
Gehlbach831 1 year ago
@Gehlbach831
Sorry to have to call you out on this one boss. But Atheism isn't a religion. Hence the word A - theism. Theism is the practice of religion. And Atheism is the non practice of religion. I can help you understand the language of it better with another example. It is typical for Creationists to sound like whining little pissants when trying to disprove hundreds of years of proven, observable science. While it is atypical for Atheists to put themselves in such a position. Cheers
nuckelhedd 1 year ago
Last thing i'm going to say. DARWIN NEVER RECANTED ANYTHING ON HIS DEATH BED YOU PATHOLOGICAL PIECE OF CRAP. You are right on course for following good ol' Kenty boy right into the ass raping of your life in prison. Perhaps you would like that though. You seem like the type who would love to be abused by a strong male.
nuckelhedd 1 year ago
lol your fucking crazy, god is made up so people dont fear death, so they have "something" to look forward to when they die, which is all bullshit and you base your whole life off of a god
durkmiester54 1 year ago
Warrior under god? Don't the Taliban consider themselves Warriors under God :O
ExplosiveChickens 1 year ago
HEY JESUS BOY! im going to tell you that your argument IS in fact "FALLIBLE" for the simple fact that you are assuming that we humans have profound evidence that God (Or shall i say the judeo-christian god) exists. All you JESUS BOY are running on is Faith. Darwinists are atleast running on science, which is way more profound than faith. HAVE A GOOD ONE JESUS BOY :)
NarCal615 1 year ago
@NarCal615 we actually have a lot of evidence for what we believe in. first: the bible is one of the oldest books in the world, it was written by a bunch of different people, and it does not contain contradicting teachings/ doctrines. Two: our calendar is based off the death of christ! its 2010 AD (Amino Domini = year of our Lord) and a bunch more.
there is no one who can explain what caused the big bang or why it happened if it did.
i suggest watching "expelled - no intelligence allowed"
mcedsonrunescape 1 year ago
@mcedsonrunescape
The term you are looking for is ANNO DOMINAE.Amino is the fist word in Amino Acid which just so happens to be one of the earliest organic molecules to assemble and ironically are the building blocks of proteins and basically brought about the origin of organic life on this planet. Every living biological life form on this planet have them. How sweet it is that you would make that mistake. You certainly aren't perfect. But take heart little man, Amino acids are the god you seek
nuckelhedd 1 year ago
Explain whales dumbass!
bigfish3939 1 year ago
lol epic fail.
bdwilson1000 1 year ago
Science is what created computers which allow you to post videos on youtube. please think before you talk. you make us look bad...
wheniruledworld 1 year ago
LOL "warrior under god" + the fierce persona of the mask with suck a weak and pitiful voice makes me lols.
evasie90 1 year ago
Idiot religious fan boy!
RomanticRebel267 2 years ago
Creationists only "win" debates because they use logical fallacies, specifically circular logic.
megatfreak 2 years ago
debating creationists is like playing a pigeon in chess. the pigeon knocks down the pieces and flys back to it's flock and pretends it has won.
list me those debates because i wonder how many you have watched.
you mention hovind. anyone who believes or thinks hovind makes good arguments is a braindead moron like you.
the reason you probably believe they win is probably because "god did it" is enough of an explanation for you.
martincrotty 2 years ago
Look, the only people that believe creationists win debates are people that do not understand what is being discussed and that value charismatic presentation and arguments that appeal to emotion and bias over experts delivering fact by fact dismantling of the flismy, long ago debunked, arguments.
Uneducated, delusional people who cannot recognize logical fallacy and obvious distortion of the facts will think fools like hovind (who is in jail for tax fraud) win debates.
chobochotch 2 years ago
You lost me at :17 when you said Kent Hovind. Hopefully he'll use his time in prison reading up on evolution.
itsonlymepeople 2 years ago
There was a debate Kent didn't win. His trial.
SharpAsaSp00n 2 years ago 2
Propa-propa-propa-propaGANDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
IWILLEATYOUHEAD 2 years ago
IWILLEATYOUHEAD 2 years ago
OH DEAR GOD I SEE THE IRONY NOW!
Well, we all make mistakes, right?
IWILLEATYOUHEAD 2 years ago
Who says there aren't scientists on your "side" of God who are trying to spread the truth to you creationist idiots? Why don't you learn both sides of the argument before you try to spout this sad attempt at propaganda?
diafuckingbetus 2 years ago
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA*oof! Dammit, why do those portals to bizarro world spit you out from so high up.
theloopholeistheahol 2 years ago
"Science Created Nuclear Bombs"
"god didn't make nuclear bombs"
Nope, instead he had an angel rain fire upon a city of "Sinners" killing owmen, children, men, animals, everything in it. God also flooded the earth, killing all but noah, his family, and their beloveds and 2 of every animal... what a kind man...
Might I add christians also claimed the idea organisms so small we couldn't see them with our naked eye was "Rubbish" and "against god" go figure...
WhiteTiger225 2 years ago
*Facepalms* Dear god... Where do I start?
first off... Creationists DO NOT win every single debate... it is the creationists ignore all facts and claim they are still right until the very end. Or like VenomFangX does, they pull the "Screw you guys! I'm, goin home!" and claim a "Win" that way.
"God isn't a human" Then whose image are made made in then his? Lol... owned...
WhiteTiger225 2 years ago
Btw, so many trolls are going to be trolling you from 4chan for not being a independent thinker. Enjoy.
johntm77 2 years ago
Oh wow this is just too good. About your comment on nukeular bombs... Do you have any idea how many millions of people have died because of chirtainity? More then a neuclar bomb could do. You sicken me with your hypocrisy. And the bibble is a self forfilling proffacy. You fucks get persactued for persacuting other beliefs and life choices.
johntm77 2 years ago
There is abundently more evidense pointing towards evolution. And no, they dont win every single debate they ignore facts and information and make excuses. Like your a dumb fuck and like its sad and im not just trolling I mean I quit being a christaian after reaching a certian age. Stone your children? Pro slavery? And if you carefuly read the beggining of the bibble you will notice that god is afraid of adam and eve so once they got the knowlage he had to guard the tree of life.
johntm77 2 years ago
Creationists don't win debates, they just ignore evidence and refuse to admit when they've been proven wrong.
Your soft, undeveloped brain is incapable of understanding a complicated world. Someone should slap the shit out of your parents for allowing you to grow up as such an ignoramus.
VesusSheist 2 years ago
are you so ashamed of being a christian that you have to hide your face from the world?time to take of the mask or fuck off
K1CKA55realgood 2 years ago
im the best around nothing is evere gonna take me down
vwsherman 2 years ago
simply not true, i have never bare witness to a single case where creationists have trumped evolutionists. The only case where that appears true is to a creationist, its called circular logic:
the bible is the word of god > but how do we know? > because the bible says so > why believe the bible? > the bible is infallible! > how is it infallable? > go back to the start
where is the proof? as you said, man is fallible, so you must consider that you are possibly wrong.
Glotty 2 years ago
exactley and that is why religion fails in most sections
CodeGeasser 2 years ago
Creationism always wins over Evolution?
Well first off its only in your view that Creationism wins because of your religious view
2nd, Creationism lost in court & deemed unconstitutional to be taught in school. Then it "evolved" into ID who then lost against evolution in Dover trials & many others, deemed Creationism in disguise
"God didnt make nuclear bomb, he could if he wanted to"
-God didnt make medicine either..
BTW that computer ur using, scientists made that too so stop using it!
ChemEBeaver 2 years ago
If humans get things wrong so much, don't you think that humans got it wrong about religion, or "christianity". Cliche, but open your mind.
streakyfreak 2 years ago
They won one? HAHA Kent HO-Man LOL he is such a Joke its spelled HO-Man and he lives in PRISON a child with an education in basic logic can smack a creationist This must be a Satire HAHA
Tell me Creationisim wins the day that they ban the Flu vaccine biology and the DNA tests for babies mommas on Jerry springer.
I don't think anyone Believes you when you say you have even watched a Religious magic vs Science Debate Liar! Sinner fake Hypocrite I hope this is a Satire you so fail Liar for Jesus
GodKillerAtheist 2 years ago
Such a poor argument it's not worth discussing.
m0nkey13 2 years ago 2
He sounds a lot like Ned Flanders.
m0nkey13 2 years ago
Wow. Just wow.
stevebritgimp 2 years ago
K.E.N.T.
H.O.V.I.N.D. = "Knowledgeable Expert Neo-Darwinists Truly Hate Owns Victories Incinerating Naive Darwinists!"
Acronym77 2 years ago
To talk about evolution correctly you need to be educated and intelligent. Any dumb shit like hovind or you can repeat what their pastor said about creation.
Militarybubbles 2 years ago
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splitopenand 2 years ago
Always win? The last religious dude I debated spouted crap about Zionists and how I'll go to hell if I don't believe in his God. He offered no evidence to support his claims.
The dude before that did the same thing. He kept saying how I'll go to hell if I don't believe in his God. It seems like a trend to spout bullshit without providing evidence.
Now I understand that there are intelligent Christians out there, but heck I have yet to meet one.
Prodigyexam12 2 years ago
good luck becoming a pastor. you sound like you'll make a perfect one.
i'm not saying that religion has to be completely thrown out. you need to balance your spirituality with your knowledge of the natural world (science). even though i am a biochemist (soon to be a PhD), i'm still a bit spiritual. something had to have created matter. the sheer complexity of our bodies is beautiful. the products of evolution (us and other animals, plants, bacteria,) are so complex u cant even imagine
sublemon311 2 years ago
"i'm still a bit spiritual. something had to have created matter"
You should have researched Physics then. An ice fisherman wouldn't tell a painter how to paint.
Complexity arose from simplicity its only spectacular because you don't understand its simple parts. Cause and effect. We are here because of gradual simplicity not instant complexity
GodKillerAtheist 2 years ago
please read my responses
you also commented how science made nuclear weapons.
well i think the majority of wars throughout history have been due to religious conflict.
science continuously changes and becomes more accurate. it fixes it's mistakes. it gets closer to the real answer.
religion is stuck in the past 2,010 years ago, when fishermen attempted to explain lightning by the angry actions of god. now we all know that lightning is just an electrical reaction in the sky.
sublemon311 2 years ago
"mistakes and not being perfect" is the reason we have evolution! DNA polymerase is prone to mistakes, so DNA mutates, and organisms evolve.
man being imperfect has nothing to do with evolution.
if scientists can make mistakes (we can), how about religious leaders and followers? can't they make mistakes. you are basically saying by believing in something infallible (God) you are always right. if i believed that science was infallible, then i would always be right. you make no sense.
sublemon311 2 years ago
I am perfect
timmytotones 2 years ago
science made your hoodie and your mask and your house and youtube. if someone or something created the universe on purpose, that is science.
youre a product of the zeitgeist
LeafyLarry 2 years ago
Creationists always win?
Um, no.
They always lose, because they don't understand what it is they are talking about.
thirdclass2006 2 years ago
This sort of reasoning explains why the Washington Generals always beat the Harlem Globetrotters.
MisterBusta 2 years ago
If Kent Hovind is the best you can do, you are in trouble. Isn't he the guy that says the Great Flood was caused by an ice meteor? And that the ice at the poles is because the ice was attracted there by magnetic forces? The guy that is serving a prison term right now? Delusion is a powerful thing.
WestFLinfidel 2 years ago 2
Creationist win every time? Wow. You get out of it what you put into it. Unbelievable.
robotwookie 2 years ago 2
Have you watched any rebuttal videos to Kent Hovind?
If you like him why don't you write a letter to him? People in JAIL FOR FRAUD like to get letters?
Hey ... that's one debate Kent didn't win, the court case that convicted him of FRAUD.
How about that a creationist who didn't win?
Hmmmm ... go figure?
Danmill23 2 years ago