I doubt they'll ever put a mid-engine in a 911 because the cars most iconic feature is the rear engine lay out, long term 911 fans would be pissed if they got rid of that
AND i am the most qualified of anyone of you broke losers to tell you this... I know cry about it then flag me as spam... but I OWN BOTH AND DRIVE BOTH ON A DAILY BASIS? WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED!!!!!!????????
Does everyone coward on here FORGET that im talking about a 370z (again, with sport package), NOT a 350z! I know how bad it hurts when you get embarrassed for being a fanboy of the 5 years-behing porsche league, however- DO NOT DARE TELL ME I HAVE NEVER DRIVEN ONE! DID YOU NOT REMEMBER I OWN BOTH? Want me to take a picture to prove it, or what? Jesus! Its cute to see people who just can't handle this flagging me as spam! Wow, on WHAT GROUNDS?
Ive herd people say the same thing time and time again, how they mock the Cayman about being "the model that people buy because they cant afford a 911" truth be told, IF you can AFFORD any Porsche, you should be lucky to own one, let alone the model....2nd, 911 owners are pulling whatever hair they have left out of their heads because Porsche created their own monster. Porsche has been known for handling and they made a handling God of a car thats double digits lower then the coveted 911.
Another quality product by Porsche, in a way, i feel as if they held back on the Cayman's true power...afraid if the engineers were given full access to bless it with full potential the thunder might be stolen from the car God would drive, the 911. I think in the near future, the Cayman will ultimately evolve into what it was ment to do.
@DTHPRF66 Honestly, I've seen more new Turbos on the road than the basic 911. Making the car lighter and throwing bigger engines into their supercar trim won't work that much longer. Sooner or later they'll have to put a mid engine into one of the faster 911s. Even Porsche realize this 10 years ago. That's why they have the Carrera GT and now the 918.
@babymegatron The only issue with that is affordability, Yes, Porsches were ment to be expensive, but the question is, can a capable 911 ever be as much as a mid-engine, perfectly balanced, Cayman? the answer is simple: never. Reason: the 911 is Porsches posterchild for a sports car, and they will protect it from any other car that can carve its way into 911 sales. My belief: The Cayman will evolve into something that Porsche couldnt imagine, look at sales now, its a prelude to the future.
@6UNLEASHED Ya... they're doing the exact opposite for Cayman and Boxster adding only 10hp more to each new edition just to keep the 911 alive. 911 isn't exactly an exotic looking car not even the GT2. Remaining is the performance; which the lower 911 trims aren't that special. This brought me to the point of - Buy a 911 because it's the all season house special, but most of the time those so called special are left overs from yesterday.
@babymegatron Porsche can easily make the Cayman/Boxster HP monsters, but for reasons like you mentioned, they wont, and cant. My question is: Is it worth buying a 911 compared to the better handling, mid-engine, 2 trunk havin', Affordable sports car? In all fairness, I think it is. Its more exotic looking, cuts curves like a razor, and is pleasing to the eye. 911 owners wont agree at any means to this, but you cant disagree with sales numbers.
@6UNLEASHED LOL I'm also sure the chassis from Cayman can handle way more power. Simple upgrades to open up all bottle neck and put in a better ignition will easily give it 60hp+. That upgrade alone will cost similar to a 911 basic trim. Besides... I don't know anyone who can fit in the back seats of a 911. What's the point.
@babymegatron The Cayman models are perfect cars to handle alot more power, except the only issue is, Porsche refuses to give the Cayman really what it needs to keep 911 owners happy. If the engineers were able to make the Cayman be what its designed to be, it will outperform the 911 all day long. But who wants to hear that a less expensive model just beat out the definition of a sports car...the 911?
@6UNLEASHED but that's a good thing in a way. If someone is really into cars they can get the better car for cheaper. Well... 911 is like buying a piece of history... but really who's thinking about history when corning at 100kph LOL. I love all Porsche except that suv and 4door...
AHHH. Love this car, but seriously I can't get over its exterior and interior styling. Front is nice, but the back is WAY too long - it's for utility but ugly looks as consequence? For performance, this for sure, but for looks the new Z4. Man it's a good looking car, inside and out.
I don't own a 350, i own a 370 w/ sports package. And read my comments, the cayman s simply doesn't hang in the corners like the Z. I know its midengined, but the Z actually has better braking weight distribution than the porsche.
@tyson33300 The zed is a piece of shit poor man's excuse for a sports car. The Porsche is leagues ahead. I drove the Boxster S and then a 313 350Z and the Porsche was way better.
Porsche...thats all that needs to be said when dealing with a DRIVERS cars. The company lives, breathes, and eats how a car responds to a driver and for that, Porsche stands alone.
The point is- I can afford both cars, in fact I have both cars. There is absolutely no reason that I would lie about the Z being so much more superior in EVERY LITTLE aspect! In fact, you would think i would be defending the Porsche since i payed SO much more for it, but the truth is the truth. Deal with it how you will. I know that despite what i am saying, many of you will still try to tell me that the porsche is better. Thats like saying the sky isn't blue, but go ahead and try anyways.
The 350z isn't as balanced as the Cayman S. Since the Cayman is middle-engined, it has perfect weight distribution. The 350z is just your average FR car, which does not have as much balance as an MR layout car. You would get smoked in the turns by the Cayman.
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genesis,sounds like the only car you own is the hyundai which bears your username. You sound like every Porsche fanboy. Props to Porsche for setting the standard, etc., but Nissan really creamed them on this one. Im not quoting magazines- HELLO, I OWN BOTH CARS! The nissan IS better in EVERY regard. all i care about is speed? did you read what i wrote? not only is it as good as the porsche for half the price,IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER for half the price! Dead honest. Believe it or don't.its your life
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Ok, rmbrown. Since you dared me, the 370z sport has a full 1G of grip. Thats better than some ferraris. Its damn sure better than the cayman. Thanks for responding.
It's the total package, Porsche has it and Nissan wants it....If all one were to care about were speed, one could buy a Z06 and leave you like you were tied to a tree on the street and on the track....Buy yourself a Porsche, drive it for a while and then you too will know the difference...As for your comment about Ferrari, I've owned 2 of those as well...Again, it's the total pkg....Until you realize that and quit quoting magazine figures, you will never understand....
My brother has the Cayman S and I have the 370z w/ sports package. I challenge anyone to ACTUALLY look up the specs on these cars. If i look back here and find one person who says the Z isn't a better car then I will have to list the specs myself. Go on, I dare you.
if you see the car in real life it looks really nice, i kno from experience becus i was like damn this car is freaking ugly until i actually saw it in front of me
but, the M3 is on par with the carrera for track times so i've heard......but who cares, both cars look amazing. I just can't afford 20mpg v8's when the threat of gas being 5$ a gallon is unknown. With 28mpg you are basically taking the 5$ gas and making it $3.50.........sort of.
While I do agree not as fun to watch as Top Gear, if your in the market for this car it's FAR superior to Top Gear as it's actually informative and very detailed review of the car.
WOW... know something about cars before you make statements like that.... I would like to see your jap 370z out-perform the Porsche on twisties and a straight-away.. the Porsche is waaay better balanced and has a waaay more efficient transmission than a 370z. 340hp packs a big punch in a porsche
you didnt really read that comment I left did you dickface? Because you would have noticed then that even though I prefer a Porsche, I admit that I cannot afford one and that I'd rather turbo a 370z for half the price as an alternative. oh and "WOW"...lol what a fuckin queer.
when he was sitting in the hatch, he was sitting right on top of the panel. Its carpeted like the rest of the floor in the hatch area. You just twist a few latches to pull the panel off
"poor mans porsche" ? Any porsche will keep one poor lol...Anything less then a 911...Check your history Porsche 928 was the flag ship model in its day over the 911.
A Porsche is a Porsche no matter what model it may be.
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you're right about the 928, v nice. However the only people who buy boxters/caymans are the ones who cannot afford a 911. A real porsche. Whenever I see someone in a box/cay i just think cheap porsche, therefore poor mans porsche. If all i had was that kind of money i'd buy a BMW M3
The only 911 worthy of getting is a turbo. Whenever I see a non- turbo, non-GT3/GT2 911, I think to myself that the person couldn't afford it... same theory there. A Cayman S can be easily spec'd out to go into the low 80's, easily placing itself into the 911 pricing...
I hate it when people say "poor man's Porsche" A lot of previous 911 owners have actually traded their cars in for a Cayman due to it's superior handling performance.
@golfguy11800 The GT3 is still a $100K+ car and the GT2 has more HP but is slower and cost more than the Turbo. I agree, the turbo is probably over-priced, and so it's between a Cayman S or a Carrera S, both cars are very similar in performance, unless if you really want the 911 badge then the clear winner is the Cayman S.
Cheapo version, yeah right...And, What Version do you own??? I owned a 911 Turbo, great car...HUGE waste of money...There are far better things to invest money in...The law of diminishing returns is very real when dealing with exotics...You pay a whole sh!tload more, for a very small increase in performance...For a street car, that money is wasted as you will NEVER exploit what you paid for, at least not without spending the day in jail...For a STREET car, you can't beat the Cayman...
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I drive an 05 Audi RS4, thinkingof maybe getting a 911 next. Would never own anything less than a 911 for reasons above. When all is said and done, someone who can afford a 911 would not normally go for a boxster/cayman, hence it is a poor mans porsche.
i can only dream having one of these.. WAIT i will plan my life plan right now!!!
after graduating college.. I'll go back to my parents and live with them for 5 years earning enough money and credit to buy one of this!! THATS MY LIFE PLAN !! im settled. Ill go back 5 years from now and post a comment in this thread how amazing it is to drive
Beat it around the TopGear test track. And the comparison cars you mentioned are at least half, if not a third of that test car's price tag... can't compare japcrap to unparalleled German engineering
It's a god damn mid engined porsche, why all the emphasis on luxuries. Damn, how bland are sports cars going to be if manufacturers take notice of reviews like this.
I'd save some money and get a nissan 370 z instead.
kicksoffs 9 months ago
I doubt they'll ever put a mid-engine in a 911 because the cars most iconic feature is the rear engine lay out, long term 911 fans would be pissed if they got rid of that
theonex50 10 months ago
M3 is a beast.
ryan97303 1 year ago
AND i am the most qualified of anyone of you broke losers to tell you this... I know cry about it then flag me as spam... but I OWN BOTH AND DRIVE BOTH ON A DAILY BASIS? WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED!!!!!!????????
tyson33300 1 year ago
@tyson33300 LOL.
xxmortimerxx 1 year ago
Does everyone coward on here FORGET that im talking about a 370z (again, with sport package), NOT a 350z! I know how bad it hurts when you get embarrassed for being a fanboy of the 5 years-behing porsche league, however- DO NOT DARE TELL ME I HAVE NEVER DRIVEN ONE! DID YOU NOT REMEMBER I OWN BOTH? Want me to take a picture to prove it, or what? Jesus! Its cute to see people who just can't handle this flagging me as spam! Wow, on WHAT GROUNDS?
tyson33300 1 year ago
That guy looks like a porsche driver
daibadrumu 1 year ago
Ive herd people say the same thing time and time again, how they mock the Cayman about being "the model that people buy because they cant afford a 911" truth be told, IF you can AFFORD any Porsche, you should be lucky to own one, let alone the model....2nd, 911 owners are pulling whatever hair they have left out of their heads because Porsche created their own monster. Porsche has been known for handling and they made a handling God of a car thats double digits lower then the coveted 911.
6UNLEASHED 1 year ago
Lame review. Didn't even mention handling and performance a bit more.
arainla 1 year ago
Another quality product by Porsche, in a way, i feel as if they held back on the Cayman's true power...afraid if the engineers were given full access to bless it with full potential the thunder might be stolen from the car God would drive, the 911. I think in the near future, the Cayman will ultimately evolve into what it was ment to do.
DTHPRF66 2 years ago
@DTHPRF66 Honestly, I've seen more new Turbos on the road than the basic 911. Making the car lighter and throwing bigger engines into their supercar trim won't work that much longer. Sooner or later they'll have to put a mid engine into one of the faster 911s. Even Porsche realize this 10 years ago. That's why they have the Carrera GT and now the 918.
babymegatron 1 year ago
@babymegatron The only issue with that is affordability, Yes, Porsches were ment to be expensive, but the question is, can a capable 911 ever be as much as a mid-engine, perfectly balanced, Cayman? the answer is simple: never. Reason: the 911 is Porsches posterchild for a sports car, and they will protect it from any other car that can carve its way into 911 sales. My belief: The Cayman will evolve into something that Porsche couldnt imagine, look at sales now, its a prelude to the future.
6UNLEASHED 1 year ago
@6UNLEASHED Ya... they're doing the exact opposite for Cayman and Boxster adding only 10hp more to each new edition just to keep the 911 alive. 911 isn't exactly an exotic looking car not even the GT2. Remaining is the performance; which the lower 911 trims aren't that special. This brought me to the point of - Buy a 911 because it's the all season house special, but most of the time those so called special are left overs from yesterday.
babymegatron 1 year ago
@babymegatron Porsche can easily make the Cayman/Boxster HP monsters, but for reasons like you mentioned, they wont, and cant. My question is: Is it worth buying a 911 compared to the better handling, mid-engine, 2 trunk havin', Affordable sports car? In all fairness, I think it is. Its more exotic looking, cuts curves like a razor, and is pleasing to the eye. 911 owners wont agree at any means to this, but you cant disagree with sales numbers.
6UNLEASHED 1 year ago
@6UNLEASHED LOL I'm also sure the chassis from Cayman can handle way more power. Simple upgrades to open up all bottle neck and put in a better ignition will easily give it 60hp+. That upgrade alone will cost similar to a 911 basic trim. Besides... I don't know anyone who can fit in the back seats of a 911. What's the point.
babymegatron 1 year ago
@babymegatron The Cayman models are perfect cars to handle alot more power, except the only issue is, Porsche refuses to give the Cayman really what it needs to keep 911 owners happy. If the engineers were able to make the Cayman be what its designed to be, it will outperform the 911 all day long. But who wants to hear that a less expensive model just beat out the definition of a sports car...the 911?
6UNLEASHED 1 year ago
@6UNLEASHED but that's a good thing in a way. If someone is really into cars they can get the better car for cheaper. Well... 911 is like buying a piece of history... but really who's thinking about history when corning at 100kph LOL. I love all Porsche except that suv and 4door...
babymegatron 1 year ago
AHHH. Love this car, but seriously I can't get over its exterior and interior styling. Front is nice, but the back is WAY too long - it's for utility but ugly looks as consequence? For performance, this for sure, but for looks the new Z4. Man it's a good looking car, inside and out.
LZKS 2 years ago
I don't own a 350, i own a 370 w/ sports package. And read my comments, the cayman s simply doesn't hang in the corners like the Z. I know its midengined, but the Z actually has better braking weight distribution than the porsche.
tyson33300 2 years ago
@tyson33300 The zed is a piece of shit poor man's excuse for a sports car. The Porsche is leagues ahead. I drove the Boxster S and then a 313 350Z and the Porsche was way better.
aftereffects 2 years ago
Porsche...thats all that needs to be said when dealing with a DRIVERS cars. The company lives, breathes, and eats how a car responds to a driver and for that, Porsche stands alone.
DTHPRF66 2 years ago
bah 2008, worthless
mero40k 2 years ago
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The point is- I can afford both cars, in fact I have both cars. There is absolutely no reason that I would lie about the Z being so much more superior in EVERY LITTLE aspect! In fact, you would think i would be defending the Porsche since i payed SO much more for it, but the truth is the truth. Deal with it how you will. I know that despite what i am saying, many of you will still try to tell me that the porsche is better. Thats like saying the sky isn't blue, but go ahead and try anyways.
tyson33300 2 years ago
The 350z isn't as balanced as the Cayman S. Since the Cayman is middle-engined, it has perfect weight distribution. The 350z is just your average FR car, which does not have as much balance as an MR layout car. You would get smoked in the turns by the Cayman.
tubegangsta 2 years ago
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genesis,sounds like the only car you own is the hyundai which bears your username. You sound like every Porsche fanboy. Props to Porsche for setting the standard, etc., but Nissan really creamed them on this one. Im not quoting magazines- HELLO, I OWN BOTH CARS! The nissan IS better in EVERY regard. all i care about is speed? did you read what i wrote? not only is it as good as the porsche for half the price,IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER for half the price! Dead honest. Believe it or don't.its your life
tyson33300 2 years ago
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Oh, and here is an excerpt i took from road and track: "The car recorded phenomenal handling numbers, eclipsing those of the Cayman S".
tyson33300 2 years ago
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Ok, rmbrown. Since you dared me, the 370z sport has a full 1G of grip. Thats better than some ferraris. Its damn sure better than the cayman. Thanks for responding.
tyson33300 2 years ago
It's the total package, Porsche has it and Nissan wants it....If all one were to care about were speed, one could buy a Z06 and leave you like you were tied to a tree on the street and on the track....Buy yourself a Porsche, drive it for a while and then you too will know the difference...As for your comment about Ferrari, I've owned 2 of those as well...Again, it's the total pkg....Until you realize that and quit quoting magazine figures, you will never understand....
genesis667 2 years ago
My brother has the Cayman S and I have the 370z w/ sports package. I challenge anyone to ACTUALLY look up the specs on these cars. If i look back here and find one person who says the Z isn't a better car then I will have to list the specs myself. Go on, I dare you.
tyson33300 2 years ago
its not better on the track that much is proven. you may win in a straight line but thats only good for so much. I dare you to challenge me on that.
rmbrown09 2 years ago
if you see the car in real life it looks really nice, i kno from experience becus i was like damn this car is freaking ugly until i actually saw it in front of me
CooAzNGuy 2 years ago 2
i CAN'T compare the bmw m3 to this car.
20mpg for the bmw is terrible.
but, the M3 is on par with the carrera for track times so i've heard......but who cares, both cars look amazing. I just can't afford 20mpg v8's when the threat of gas being 5$ a gallon is unknown. With 28mpg you are basically taking the 5$ gas and making it $3.50.........sort of.
viasevenvai 2 years ago
that was boring watch top gear
19JedTaylor91 2 years ago
While I do agree not as fun to watch as Top Gear, if your in the market for this car it's FAR superior to Top Gear as it's actually informative and very detailed review of the car.
defears3 2 years ago
it doesnt sound that nice...
busterPAULIE 2 years ago
Awesome car. Cool video. Very informitive.
GreenJoe5 2 years ago 2
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eyedirector 2 years ago
WOW... know something about cars before you make statements like that.... I would like to see your jap 370z out-perform the Porsche on twisties and a straight-away.. the Porsche is waaay better balanced and has a waaay more efficient transmission than a 370z. 340hp packs a big punch in a porsche
DildoBaggins202 2 years ago 3
you didnt really read that comment I left did you dickface? Because you would have noticed then that even though I prefer a Porsche, I admit that I cannot afford one and that I'd rather turbo a 370z for half the price as an alternative. oh and "WOW"...lol what a fuckin queer.
eyedirector 2 years ago
There are not many english speaking people who can say porschE properly..
congrats Mike Hanley....
dioszmio 2 years ago 4
he looks really gay 2:52
freshfr1es 2 years ago
free beneath
Jfun4every1 2 years ago
when he was sitting in the hatch, he was sitting right on top of the panel. Its carpeted like the rest of the floor in the hatch area. You just twist a few latches to pull the panel off
redshift1340 3 years ago
This car is beautiful and a great drive. I highly recommend it to anyone considering purchasing one. IMO it looks better than the 911.
vik336 3 years ago 2
how could this car not have an mp3 adapter?? It's 2008.
defears3 3 years ago
the back lights looks like the 08 ford mondeo ones =S
Adiaphorist 3 years ago
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the back is so dam ugly
golf1262 3 years ago
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poor mans porsche, anything less than a 911 always has and always will be the cheapo version...
dmanwhocan 3 years ago
"poor mans porsche" ? Any porsche will keep one poor lol...Anything less then a 911...Check your history Porsche 928 was the flag ship model in its day over the 911.
A Porsche is a Porsche no matter what model it may be.
seawayhobby 3 years ago 5
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you're right about the 928, v nice. However the only people who buy boxters/caymans are the ones who cannot afford a 911. A real porsche. Whenever I see someone in a box/cay i just think cheap porsche, therefore poor mans porsche. If all i had was that kind of money i'd buy a BMW M3
dmanwhocan 3 years ago
The only 911 worthy of getting is a turbo. Whenever I see a non- turbo, non-GT3/GT2 911, I think to myself that the person couldn't afford it... same theory there. A Cayman S can be easily spec'd out to go into the low 80's, easily placing itself into the 911 pricing...
I hate it when people say "poor man's Porsche" A lot of previous 911 owners have actually traded their cars in for a Cayman due to it's superior handling performance.
Different folks, different strokes.
golfguy11800 3 years ago 13
@golfguy11800 The GT3 is still a $100K+ car and the GT2 has more HP but is slower and cost more than the Turbo. I agree, the turbo is probably over-priced, and so it's between a Cayman S or a Carrera S, both cars are very similar in performance, unless if you really want the 911 badge then the clear winner is the Cayman S.
esca8652 1 year ago
Cheapo version, yeah right...And, What Version do you own??? I owned a 911 Turbo, great car...HUGE waste of money...There are far better things to invest money in...The law of diminishing returns is very real when dealing with exotics...You pay a whole sh!tload more, for a very small increase in performance...For a street car, that money is wasted as you will NEVER exploit what you paid for, at least not without spending the day in jail...For a STREET car, you can't beat the Cayman...
genesis667 3 years ago 36
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I drive an 05 Audi RS4, thinkingof maybe getting a 911 next. Would never own anything less than a 911 for reasons above. When all is said and done, someone who can afford a 911 would not normally go for a boxster/cayman, hence it is a poor mans porsche.
dmanwhocan 3 years ago
genesis667: yours are Very Prudent comments. Thanks for your candor!
kbernard98 3 years ago 3
@genesis667 i think u mean the law of diminishing marginal utility. but i agree
ra2011kp 7 months ago
Nah bro. Im not a BMW fan or Maggot! haha! If I could id get the Turbo anyday.
I just think the Cayman S is in a different league. And oh btw, if i could get one. I would. Its a porsche!
mojojojo911 3 years ago
Yes . and i got one and its really the funest car I have Ever owned !! Simply magical .I have Modded my to death so its even better
prodgers82461 3 years ago
Good Car. Overpriced, though.
PH1331 3 years ago
i can only dream having one of these.. WAIT i will plan my life plan right now!!!
after graduating college.. I'll go back to my parents and live with them for 5 years earning enough money and credit to buy one of this!! THATS MY LIFE PLAN !! im settled. Ill go back 5 years from now and post a comment in this thread how amazing it is to drive
sillyboytomato 3 years ago 2
More fun than a M3? Sure there buddy!
Not a huge M3 fan. But if you compare a car like that to the M3. Then Obviously its going to be out ranked.
This cars main competitors from what i see are 350Z, G37 (maybe), Honda S2000, Z4, etc. But M3? Cmon!
mojojojo911 3 years ago
Beat it around the TopGear test track. And the comparison cars you mentioned are at least half, if not a third of that test car's price tag... can't compare japcrap to unparalleled German engineering
golfguy11800 3 years ago
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A cock testing the Cockster! A perfect combination!
thesimsrule4evr 3 years ago
i like but fucking dogz
ashcash62 3 years ago
It's a god damn mid engined porsche, why all the emphasis on luxuries. Damn, how bland are sports cars going to be if manufacturers take notice of reviews like this.
loverboy242247 3 years ago
Typical Porsche...waaaay overpriced!
therealcapecodbob 3 years ago
67 grand and all you get is a poser porsche. I'd buy a used 993 carrera 4s
igotthewhip 3 years ago
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Porsche with panties...
GenuineVanillaFace 3 years ago
Nice car, but I would much rather have a new M3 :/
Paradiddler45 3 years ago 3
Made in Finland.
arsipaani 3 years ago