If you're running m$ windows go for the best cpu you can afford as m$ OS's are bloatware, if you're running Linux you don't need a lot of cpu power so its less important.
Man, I love these distro wars! People argumenting which Linux distribution is best! Guys (and girls), the best Linux distro is the one that suits your needs! For me, that is Debian, for Kaddy it's Arch etc... Each and every one of those distros has it's advantages, and disadvantages! Cheers... (or... like Kaddy would say: Kudos! :D )
@KaegonTheGamer Yeah I was takin' the piss out of that nut job tim cause I read this on his forum today:
"I was just thinking and referring to how Microsoft owns the Patents which Linux uses and how those new laws may help Microsoft to stop website communities like Arch Linux for example from stealing their Intellectual Property and Patents... From a Corporate Business standpoint and for people who believe in laws and paying for the right to use another companies IP this is not a problem."
@BelaFleckFan PSGUI Tim is a (dare I say it) retard......! He took down all of his videos promoting linux and he has also done that 20-30 minute video with the other dude who doesn't know jackshit about phones pl0x
@KaegonTheGamer I commented on one of his vids about a month back and said I thought it was a bad video becuase he wasn't waring an anti-static band (had his hands on the mobo standing on carpet with the puter on a vinyl top desk)
Today he removed my comment sent me a message saying I was a troll cause the comment got 30 thumbs up from I guess other youtube users who understand what ESD is (elctrostatic-damage). I agree he is totally retarded.
@BelaFleckFan I know what you mean by the electro static sutff. I personally don't sue a band. I jsut make sure to touch a grouned object every 5-10 minutes.
@KaegonTheGamer I'm a qualified system support technician, my advice is pay the $5 and buy a band, most ESD you wont feel cause the voltage is only 5000-1000 volts. And the damage might not manifest itself for weeks, months or years, so it's impossible to know when or what caused it. I'm always amazed when people pay $100's for h/w they skimp on buying a $5 band.
@BelaFleckFan thats true. when I build my new pc later on in the year I'll pick up a £4.99 band. I'm not sure on a 4 core AMD or jsut sticking with a core i3. I don't do heave multi-tasking. its either internet+music, games (world of warcraft mainly) or leaving it on video converting (which I can do on my current system and sitll play wow and no lagg). But what should I go for.....
@KaegonTheGamer I run Debian but to say Linux should have a standard package manager or a standard DE or a standard sound server is missing the point of what Linux is all about. The Freedom To Choose.
it has been around the longest... but only has 1 key developer last time i checked... debian has been around almost as long and has a massive dev community
@Linux4UnMe That's interesting to know. Ever since they released unity I've been wanting to move away from ubuntu. I was thinking either slackware which is probably a bit too advanced for me, or debian.
My desktop. Clean no clutter. When I need to use many programs I drag their icons onto my desktop when I have finished I clear them away. Clutter makes me lose concentration.
Tried Debian 6 XFCE. It's pretty spartan to start. With Debian, you'll use the root terminal a lot, and this is how you get it to work the way you want. It's not that difficult, and you'll learn and have fun too. Debian tries to follow the GPL Free Software philosophy, so don't expect a lot of eye candy, and don't expect everything to work out of the box! But, it's rock solid and reliable.
Hi do you know if there is any application like ubuntu tweak that would work it out in debian as such?? That, would be very nice, I am thinking... could you use linux mint repos in Debian and install just Mint's wifi driver searching?
I do have problems with wifi in my laptop and couldn't figure out and had to switch back.
I am not sure about an ubuntu-tweak like application in debian... there is gconf-editor and dconf editor "from memory... name might vary slightly" Mint repos on debian? nar, it wouldn't be compatible.... but mint's wifi driver search? what application is that? maybe you can find it on debian? you don't mean gtk-jockey do you? not sure... Debian does not include any non open drivers and often have to manually install the firmware for your chipset depending what it is o_0
@Linux4UnMe Hey man, I meant the application that looks for new drivers at the start sh -c 'test -e /var/cache/jockey/check || exec jockey-gtk --check' you were right, jockey-gtk that would be very interesting, having it able to install it in Debian,
@Linux4UnMe because for most people configuring the drivers are a pain in the ass... for me, I did have a wifi usb card that on ubuntu 9.04 got 100% wifi coverage and since Upgrading to 9.10 and on forward the coverage dropped stunningly to 30-40% because the kernel grabbed other driver which recognizes it but not as well. When I tried to install the correct driver... well got no clue how to tell the f.... kernel grab min you... !!! jaja
argh that sucks... hard to explain here.. but you knew the driver that is loaded in the kernel... you could remove it with "rmmod" or "modprobe -R" then manually load the correct driver with "modprobe drivername" But I am not sure how advanced in linux you are or not... so maybe that doesn't make sense when i write it here....
@Linux4UnMe I tried modprobe... to load the new driver, have not tried to remove it and could not find the way at that time. I am not so new I'm on linux since 9.04 and not turning back... I remember that modprobe told me it was installed and loaded but still it wasn't working, such a pity have not asked at that time!!! if I decide to replace mint11 with LMDE or Debian6 I will definitely will give you a holla. cheers from Spain, love your intro track bro!
Bro..I don't know if this question sound stupid, but I just want to know why each and every distro have to switch to Gnome Shell? Why they didn't stick with Gnome 2 like Debian do?
Debian will eventually have to embrace Gnome 3.... they can't stick with Gnome 2 forever... otherwise in time there will be incompatibilities with software/libraries. I guess other distros just want to keep up with the latest and try to make it work as best as they can
You started off saying "Debian 6 finally", and I felt this immediate sense of revulsion for the stupidity of humanity... Later you demonstrated that you had at least some sense and maybe there is a difference between people attracted to Debian and the rest of the breeders when you admitted that you would actually rather have stable packages then something that's just new and shiny.
P.S. I know this is an old video, but that doesn't change the fact the this fast food ethos is deeply harmful to one's humanity. Not to mention that it's all just disgusting and stupid. It is truly the foundation for an idiocracy.. have you seen the damage this attitude has done to Ubuntu i.e. Ubuntu i.e. ubuntu 10.10, 11.4, 11.10-- decided regression from Natty Nawhal?! What the fuck is wrong with people that instead of wanting something that really works, they prefer senseless innovation?
If I had gnome on debian6, could I change to KDE without reinstalling debian?
Also my GRUB boot loader is not working properly, I tried to install Debian with grub on with windows 7, and had to format my computer, why is this happening?
I will greatly appreciate any help. (plus I am an average computer user so please try not include extremely technically detailed way to solve my problems unless it is necessary. )
Try out Crunchbang, its based on Debian and most of the packages come directly from the official Debian repositories, its Debian + Openbox = good place to start debian
seriously, how TF we get debian?i search for servers or even offcial mirrors i see a bunch of DVD's and cds to download... i got freaking lost.,, please do help.
yeah it can get confusing.... just look for debian cd/iso images, pick a download method such as h t t p go for official cd/dvd, then either 32 bit (386) or 64 bit whichever your computer is.... or just go for multiarch.... and download any of the iso images
hehe. Depending what wifi card / chipset you got... you may need to manually install the driver on debian... it is probably a proprietary driver/firmware.... you'll have to look up the chipset and what driver to install from another internet source.... debian is not for the faint hearted ;) then you can install synaptic
Well I was expecting to have these stuff out of the box,I mean its a Realtek network card which is mostly compatible with lots of OS.
One more thing,I only left the Destop and system utilities option checked at the install,do I have to check something else for it to see the card and will it also install synaptic without having to install it manually?
"Well I was expecting to have these stuff out of the box"
Thanks for trying Debian! One of my favorite things is the community. They have a social contract & hold elections. You can find out more about this at their website
Debian has many volunteers due to that contract which this firmware violates, and they decided to remove it.
But they still love you! Google "debian cd-including-firmware" and you'll see that they've still provided you with an "unofficial" solution
things like no built in drivers can't be classed as a good thing surely? its like saying 'my car came without an engine, but its okay because now i can pick whichever engine i want' still a pain in the arse to sort out
You probably need to seperately install the wifi drivers/firmware since Debian choose not to include any proprietary stuff... depends on what chipset you have.... I would need more information to give you advice... and here isn't a good place. I have a forum for tech support if you want to post there. cheers
i dont care for latest software releases... i care for stability. thats why i will give debian a try.... i lost very important work on UBUNTU gimp... i forgot to save my work.. and then gimp crashed... that was on ubuntu 11.4
mencoder which is used by one of my fav apps "devede" is broken, I get really choppy recordings with my Mic on it where as I don't on other distros... mainly to do with the ancient ancient Alsa package they use by default, had some wifi problems with network-manager dropping out so had to use wpa_supplicant, the 64bit version didnt like my chipset and made internet speeds very slow until I updated the kernel. Bout it from what I noticed
kind of off topic, but the reason i dont like using KDE is because it doesnt look too good on a small screen like on my 15.6 inch compaq presario cq56, so i use gnome on that, and KDE on my custom built box with a 23 inch screen.
@fdh2006 Don't listen to him... :) Debian is not faster than Ubuntu.
A lot of people say that Arch Linux is faster than Ubuntu but benchmarks demonstrated, there r no differences between distros... Only if u use KDE for example which eats a lot of Processor and RAM vs LXDE which is a very light Desktop Environment...
Search for phoronix dot com and u'll see, there are a lot of benchmarks. There are differences in performance between NTFS and EXT4 filesystems and other filesystems but not Distros
It may not be a significant difference... but comparing the two on my hardware... debian uses slightly less resources compared to ubuntu and has less software (by default) That is why I said Yes.... It may not be noticeable on decent hardware so you may be right to an extent also
@Sb0yce Even on gnome (which is a heavy desktop environment compared to LXDE, Xfce, Openbox and others) i got 80MB RAM used @ Debian 6 with netinstall (just on gnome-core). I installed compiz just for fun and now its on 150MB RAM. Ive used LXDE on debian too and trust me, firefox is more heavy than the whole system.
Don't forget that the term "Linux" is just referring to the Kernel. There is no Operating System called "Linux" Distro's come out and package what they want to package on top of the Linux Kernel and that is their Linux based Operating sytem. There are many flavours of Distros from something as light as 50mb like DamnSmallLinux, to something heavier Like Sabayon Linux Kde. You can pick and choose what you want and strip out what you don't want and it's still Linux
@TheLinuxsensei I prefer Debian. In Ubuntu (Karmic/Lucid, 64 bit) I never got the flashplayer or javaplugin to be stable in all browsers. And in 9.10 the wireless was a nightmare. My impression is there are fewer but better threads in the Debian forums, and the documentation is less outdated. On the other hand, I don't think Ubuntu being branded as newbie-friendly is a bad thing or makes it less advanced in any way. Debian just happens to harmonize better with my logics (and hardware).
You can fix KDE on a virtual machine. Go to the style in the System Settings and you can set an option to use "low cpu usage low memory system" and it runs amazing.
@Linux4UnMe - Sorry the option is called "low cpu low resolution screen", my bad. Also, I think it should run great on a netbook if you turn off the desktop effects and set that option. It certainly makes it bearable in a virtualbox. I am glad to hear that you are using Debian on a real install, it is my favourite distribution. I actually use stable. On another note, you can install the netbook version of KDE in debian if you install the package plasma-netbook. Have fun, good video! :)
This distro is the best I have used, I have been distro hopping for a while I always find the other distros are lacking in some major area. Not stable, really ancient packages, upgrades every 6 months, broken package mangers/updaters, compiz performance, glitches, slow, etc...
This distro is awesome, it installs only the basic programs, no bloat, I can install bleeding edge programs if I want but have a stable basic OS, and no upgrades, no visual glitches, very responsive. It's almost perfect.
true dat.... although if your using debian stable... it is still a cycle distro except every 2 years or so instead of 6 months. But upgrading debian is more reliable than ubuntu for example......... otherwise you could use debian testing which is rolling and just keep updating to the latest version with updates.....
One major problem that I can't work out though and have seen it before, is that commbank plays up. I thought it was commbank, but it's not, in windows i can log in first time every time, as well as every other distro i have tried, only debian for some reason plays up. Could be because of the website being h t t p s or something....any ideas ?
I sometimes have problems with certain websites on Firefox.... usually these websites are designed to only support Windows Explorer... try adding a firefox plugin called "user agent switcher" and set it to run in Windows Explorer mode and give that website another try. I bet ya it will work
@Linux4UnMe Yeh, maybe a firefox 4 beta might fix the problem....but in no other distro have i had this problem. Probably because of my inexperience in setting up debian, probably needs a package to make it work.
no idea mate..... but it works on other distros? Maybe Debian's version of firefox has a feature disabled by default...... Maybe the website uses Java? which is probly not installed by default on debian? only thing I can think of.......... did you try the user agent plugin? if all else fails post on the debian forums... you will surely get a quick reply about it
@Linux4UnMe Could be, cause i installed java made sure it was working. The user agent plugin i set to internet explorer 8 no good either. I'll try the forums. Thanks.
@Linux4UnMe Testing might be ok and I can't wait for gnome 3 it looks really different and cool. But I just tried btnx in debian and it just works. I have never seen it just work before. I can't give up this amount of stability.
Nothing wrong with Ubuntu.... But I don't find Debian hard at all to get up and running the way I want it.... I prefer Debian Squeeze over Ubuntu because it has next to no obvious bugs and all the packages are patched and stable to the point where Ubuntu could never match that quality... Squeeze is intended for a Production Environment where you can't afford for anything to go wrong with it. But to each his own eh
@TheLinuxsensei Depends on the user I guess and preferences; I like Ubuntu and indeed I started out with it but I find it includes too much junk I just don't want these days so I just stick to Arch. And well I'm a serial tinkerer lol
I tried this in VBox but couldnt for the life of me get the guest additions installed, also couldnt add myself to sudoers (that was the message)..if you know how to do this with Debian as guest I would be very grateful to hear from you. Regards
you can just add the guest additions from within virtualbox, make sure it is mounted in virtualbox when you boot into the installed distro, go into /media and install the x86 one with "./blahblah.x86"
@Linux4UnMe thanks for you're answer, yes I have done this successfully a lot of times in other guest OS's and tried just 'su' in Debian, it still didnt want it though. I've been pulling my hair out over this. I always follow the steps as per your comment. Maybe just a glitch in either the guest install or VBox itself, no big deal but just a pain :-)
Can you make a Nvidia installation tutorial for debian (testing, unstable), i followed several guides but it always lead to a disaster.
szlajerka 2 hours ago
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szlajerka 2 hours ago
Kebian and LXebian LOOOL
fukwindowz 2 days ago
im kinda new to linux...can u run ubuntu programms on debian? like wine for example?
andrija95aki 3 days ago
@andrija95aki
ummmm what? yes you can run debian programs and yes you can run wine
Linux4UnMe 2 days ago
@andrija95aki Ubuntu isn't compatible with Debian so use Debian packages
BelaFleckFan 2 days ago
@Linux4UnMe i use windows right now and want to know if gaming is the same or worse or even better :D
TheM24wolf 1 week ago
@TheM24wolf
for gaming... forget linux
Linux4UnMe 1 week ago
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TheM24wolf 1 week ago
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rocheralexis 3 weeks ago
Debian 6.0 is one of my faforit distros other than ubuntu: D
NewKeepSharing31 1 month ago
If you're running m$ windows go for the best cpu you can afford as m$ OS's are bloatware, if you're running Linux you don't need a lot of cpu power so its less important.
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
Man, I love these distro wars! People argumenting which Linux distribution is best! Guys (and girls), the best Linux distro is the one that suits your needs! For me, that is Debian, for Kaddy it's Arch etc... Each and every one of those distros has it's advantages, and disadvantages! Cheers... (or... like Kaddy would say: Kudos! :D )
MrZ0K4 1 month ago 13
@MrZ0K4
lol. indeed :D
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe I have spoken to Tim and we both agree that m$ should be the standard and Arch User should be sent to Guantanamo!
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
@BelaFleckFan If the tim your on about is OSGUI Tim then don't believe him. He is broken. Besides its probably OSGUI Tim who made that comment anyway
KaegonTheGamer 1 month ago
@KaegonTheGamer Yeah I was takin' the piss out of that nut job tim cause I read this on his forum today:
"I was just thinking and referring to how Microsoft owns the Patents which Linux uses and how those new laws may help Microsoft to stop website communities like Arch Linux for example from stealing their Intellectual Property and Patents... From a Corporate Business standpoint and for people who believe in laws and paying for the right to use another companies IP this is not a problem."
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
@BelaFleckFan PSGUI Tim is a (dare I say it) retard......! He took down all of his videos promoting linux and he has also done that 20-30 minute video with the other dude who doesn't know jackshit about phones pl0x
KaegonTheGamer 1 month ago
@KaegonTheGamer I commented on one of his vids about a month back and said I thought it was a bad video becuase he wasn't waring an anti-static band (had his hands on the mobo standing on carpet with the puter on a vinyl top desk)
Today he removed my comment sent me a message saying I was a troll cause the comment got 30 thumbs up from I guess other youtube users who understand what ESD is (elctrostatic-damage). I agree he is totally retarded.
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
@BelaFleckFan Oh and he told me to FUCK-OFF so he's also very rude
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
@BelaFleckFan I know what you mean by the electro static sutff. I personally don't sue a band. I jsut make sure to touch a grouned object every 5-10 minutes.
KaegonTheGamer 1 month ago
@KaegonTheGamer I'm a qualified system support technician, my advice is pay the $5 and buy a band, most ESD you wont feel cause the voltage is only 5000-1000 volts. And the damage might not manifest itself for weeks, months or years, so it's impossible to know when or what caused it. I'm always amazed when people pay $100's for h/w they skimp on buying a $5 band.
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
@BelaFleckFan thats true. when I build my new pc later on in the year I'll pick up a £4.99 band. I'm not sure on a 4 core AMD or jsut sticking with a core i3. I don't do heave multi-tasking. its either internet+music, games (world of warcraft mainly) or leaving it on video converting (which I can do on my current system and sitll play wow and no lagg). But what should I go for.....
KaegonTheGamer 1 month ago
@MrZ0K4 for me its..... screw this there all free I WANTZ DEM ALLZ.
SamyAdel9 5 days ago
Only the fonts are probably better on Ubuntu, otherwise Debian stable is nicely solid and stable.
slvadi 1 month ago
.deb should be the standard
thowd11 1 month ago
@thowd11
lol no
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago 2
@Linux4UnMe trust me it should be... .deb distros top distro watch
KaegonTheGamer 1 month ago
@KaegonTheGamer I run Debian but to say Linux should have a standard package manager or a standard DE or a standard sound server is missing the point of what Linux is all about. The Freedom To Choose.
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
@KaegonTheGamer
and Madonna tops the Music charts.... doesn't mean I want to listen to it....
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago 9
@Linux4UnMe Kylie FTW
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe What music charts are you listening too :P.... Besides Debian is kind of the mother of all linux systems
KaegonTheGamer 1 month ago
@thowd11 NO
BelaFleckFan 1 month ago
I thought slackware was the mother of all distros
HigherPlanes 1 month ago
@HigherPlanes
it has been around the longest... but only has 1 key developer last time i checked... debian has been around almost as long and has a massive dev community
Linux4UnMe 1 month ago
@Linux4UnMe That's interesting to know. Ever since they released unity I've been wanting to move away from ubuntu. I was thinking either slackware which is probably a bit too advanced for me, or debian.
HigherPlanes 1 month ago
My desktop. Clean no clutter. When I need to use many programs I drag their icons onto my desktop when I have finished I clear them away. Clutter makes me lose concentration.
h t t p: //i40.tinypic. com/14klf8o.png
THEtimebubbles 1 month ago
ff to 3.13 to miss all the chit chat ffs
zib52zib52zib52 1 month ago
i like your ascent
blasto73 2 months ago
Debian FTW
BelaFleckFan 2 months ago 11
@BelaFleckFan
LoL. Arch ftw :P
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago 6
Tried Debian 6 XFCE. It's pretty spartan to start. With Debian, you'll use the root terminal a lot, and this is how you get it to work the way you want. It's not that difficult, and you'll learn and have fun too. Debian tries to follow the GPL Free Software philosophy, so don't expect a lot of eye candy, and don't expect everything to work out of the box! But, it's rock solid and reliable.
va7mn 2 months ago
Hi do you know if there is any application like ubuntu tweak that would work it out in debian as such?? That, would be very nice, I am thinking... could you use linux mint repos in Debian and install just Mint's wifi driver searching?
I do have problems with wifi in my laptop and couldn't figure out and had to switch back.
thanks man
masalcedo1 2 months ago
@masalcedo1
I am not sure about an ubuntu-tweak like application in debian... there is gconf-editor and dconf editor "from memory... name might vary slightly" Mint repos on debian? nar, it wouldn't be compatible.... but mint's wifi driver search? what application is that? maybe you can find it on debian? you don't mean gtk-jockey do you? not sure... Debian does not include any non open drivers and often have to manually install the firmware for your chipset depending what it is o_0
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Hey man, I meant the application that looks for new drivers at the start sh -c 'test -e /var/cache/jockey/check || exec jockey-gtk --check' you were right, jockey-gtk that would be very interesting, having it able to install it in Debian,
masalcedo1 2 months ago
@Linux4UnMe because for most people configuring the drivers are a pain in the ass... for me, I did have a wifi usb card that on ubuntu 9.04 got 100% wifi coverage and since Upgrading to 9.10 and on forward the coverage dropped stunningly to 30-40% because the kernel grabbed other driver which recognizes it but not as well. When I tried to install the correct driver... well got no clue how to tell the f.... kernel grab min you... !!! jaja
cheers dude!
masalcedo1 2 months ago
@masalcedo1
argh that sucks... hard to explain here.. but you knew the driver that is loaded in the kernel... you could remove it with "rmmod" or "modprobe -R" then manually load the correct driver with "modprobe drivername" But I am not sure how advanced in linux you are or not... so maybe that doesn't make sense when i write it here....
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
@Linux4UnMe I tried modprobe... to load the new driver, have not tried to remove it and could not find the way at that time. I am not so new I'm on linux since 9.04 and not turning back... I remember that modprobe told me it was installed and loaded but still it wasn't working, such a pity have not asked at that time!!! if I decide to replace mint11 with LMDE or Debian6 I will definitely will give you a holla. cheers from Spain, love your intro track bro!
masalcedo1 2 months ago
Bro..I don't know if this question sound stupid, but I just want to know why each and every distro have to switch to Gnome Shell? Why they didn't stick with Gnome 2 like Debian do?
rayyanputra 2 months ago
@rayyanputra
Debian will eventually have to embrace Gnome 3.... they can't stick with Gnome 2 forever... otherwise in time there will be incompatibilities with software/libraries. I guess other distros just want to keep up with the latest and try to make it work as best as they can
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
this is like old ubuntu! Officially switching!
dozza92 2 months ago
@dozza92
yeah they will hold onto gnome 2 for a while yet in stable
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
You started off saying "Debian 6 finally", and I felt this immediate sense of revulsion for the stupidity of humanity... Later you demonstrated that you had at least some sense and maybe there is a difference between people attracted to Debian and the rest of the breeders when you admitted that you would actually rather have stable packages then something that's just new and shiny.
PoorRichardSaunders 2 months ago
P.S. I know this is an old video, but that doesn't change the fact the this fast food ethos is deeply harmful to one's humanity. Not to mention that it's all just disgusting and stupid. It is truly the foundation for an idiocracy.. have you seen the damage this attitude has done to Ubuntu i.e. Ubuntu i.e. ubuntu 10.10, 11.4, 11.10-- decided regression from Natty Nawhal?! What the fuck is wrong with people that instead of wanting something that really works, they prefer senseless innovation?
PoorRichardSaunders 2 months ago
Is KDE in `Debian stable` also rock solid stable?
unixolsc 3 months ago
@unixolsc
Most people will say yes
But I say no. I got crashes on debian 6 kde but it's worth a try for yourself ;)
Linux4UnMe 3 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Thanks!
m0h1tD33pak 3 months ago
If I had gnome on debian6, could I change to KDE without reinstalling debian?
Also my GRUB boot loader is not working properly, I tried to install Debian with grub on with windows 7, and had to format my computer, why is this happening?
I will greatly appreciate any help. (plus I am an average computer user so please try not include extremely technically detailed way to solve my problems unless it is necessary. )
MUSTDOS 4 months ago
The synaptic package manager isn't installed in the lxde version or the xfce.
Crisshomes1 4 months ago
Try out Crunchbang, its based on Debian and most of the packages come directly from the official Debian repositories, its Debian + Openbox = good place to start debian
91jmda 5 months ago
@91jmda
been there done that ;)
Linux4UnMe 5 months ago
seriously, how TF we get debian?i search for servers or even offcial mirrors i see a bunch of DVD's and cds to download... i got freaking lost.,, please do help.
JackPidwell 5 months ago
@JackPidwell
yeah it can get confusing.... just look for debian cd/iso images, pick a download method such as h t t p go for official cd/dvd, then either 32 bit (386) or 64 bit whichever your computer is.... or just go for multiarch.... and download any of the iso images
Linux4UnMe 5 months ago
@Linux4UnMe but do i just pick one? there's loads of DVD's and cds for each system architecture... |:
JackPidwell 5 months ago
@JackPidwell
yeah just one
Linux4UnMe 5 months ago
Is debian fast in file transfer from a partition to another or video decoding ?
Crisshomes1 4 months ago
@Crisshomes1
o_0
That would depend more so on your hardware specs man
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
By the way I just installed Debian 6 gnome and there is no network connection or synaptic manager.
A little help here?
Crisshomes1 4 months ago
@Crisshomes1
hehe. Depending what wifi card / chipset you got... you may need to manually install the driver on debian... it is probably a proprietary driver/firmware.... you'll have to look up the chipset and what driver to install from another internet source.... debian is not for the faint hearted ;) then you can install synaptic
Linux4UnMe 4 months ago
Well I was expecting to have these stuff out of the box,I mean its a Realtek network card which is mostly compatible with lots of OS.
One more thing,I only left the Destop and system utilities option checked at the install,do I have to check something else for it to see the card and will it also install synaptic without having to install it manually?
Crisshomes1 4 months ago
@Crisshomes1@Crisshomes1
"Well I was expecting to have these stuff out of the box"
Thanks for trying Debian! One of my favorite things is the community. They have a social contract & hold elections. You can find out more about this at their website
Debian has many volunteers due to that contract which this firmware violates, and they decided to remove it.
But they still love you! Google "debian cd-including-firmware" and you'll see that they've still provided you with an "unofficial" solution
mklyly 3 months ago
@indexcow
You Pray to the Lord and open the palms of your hands... usually it drops down sideways ;)
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago 14
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oXodazz94oXo 6 months ago
If they have the software center than I'm switch , because it's very handy to have. I like it way better than add/remove .
maw88ify 6 months ago
i got this to install after putting my wifi .deb drivers on a flash drive. Best distro i ever used.
marky61198 7 months ago
@marky61198
good stuff man. ;)
Linux4UnMe 7 months ago
things like no built in drivers can't be classed as a good thing surely? its like saying 'my car came without an engine, but its okay because now i can pick whichever engine i want' still a pain in the arse to sort out
atomiclemon77 7 months ago
dude, when i install the CD, i reboot, then it's like arch just a text no gui. help?
WhatTheFeatherTV 7 months ago
@WhatTheFeatherTV
are you using the full installation cd not a minimilistic / netinstall? should be about 700mb
Linux4UnMe 7 months ago
@Linux4UnMe i got it in the DVD, thanks :D
WhatTheFeatherTV 7 months ago
@WhatTheFeatherTV i had the same problem. make sure youre connected to the internet properly
charmanderstail 6 months ago
hey, i need help.. Why is there no way to find a wireless connection on my laptop with Debian?
LoveBarthalamewPls 7 months ago
@LoveBarthalamewPls
You probably need to seperately install the wifi drivers/firmware since Debian choose not to include any proprietary stuff... depends on what chipset you have.... I would need more information to give you advice... and here isn't a good place. I have a forum for tech support if you want to post there. cheers
Linux4UnMe 7 months ago
¬¬ KDE fan .... and gnome?
synth3tik0 7 months ago
@synth3tik0
i like both
Linux4UnMe 7 months ago
What KDE distro do you use? Arch?
AronHoneybun 7 months ago
@AronHoneybun
yeah Arch... but I do switch between kde and gnome often on it lol
Linux4UnMe 7 months ago
3:14 To get to the aCtual thing
TomHopkins24 8 months ago
Cool video. I'm thinking of going to Debian from Ubuntu. I'm worried Ubuntu will be ruined with Unity and Gnome won't work well on it.
fdh2006 8 months ago
i dont care for latest software releases... i care for stability. thats why i will give debian a try.... i lost very important work on UBUNTU gimp... i forgot to save my work.. and then gimp crashed... that was on ubuntu 11.4
r4jk3 8 months ago
@r4jk3
yeah it is quite stable... but i've recently found some bugs on debian which i was suprised by. You probably won't notice though......
Linux4UnMe 8 months ago
@Linux4UnMe what kind of bugs? :) can u share it with the others?
r4jk3 8 months ago
@r4jk3
mencoder which is used by one of my fav apps "devede" is broken, I get really choppy recordings with my Mic on it where as I don't on other distros... mainly to do with the ancient ancient Alsa package they use by default, had some wifi problems with network-manager dropping out so had to use wpa_supplicant, the 64bit version didnt like my chipset and made internet speeds very slow until I updated the kernel. Bout it from what I noticed
Linux4UnMe 8 months ago
maybe you will have better luck though on your hardware... and maybe it won't be as much of an issue on 32bit. dunno
Linux4UnMe 8 months ago
kind of off topic, but the reason i dont like using KDE is because it doesnt look too good on a small screen like on my 15.6 inch compaq presario cq56, so i use gnome on that, and KDE on my custom built box with a 23 inch screen.
ipwnrubberduckiesftw 8 months ago
Not sure but I cant find a manager for third party drivers in Deb gnome. anyone got any ideas what im doing wrong?
rrrandommman 9 months ago
@rrrandommman
yer you gotta do it manually in debian... what are you trying to install?
Linux4UnMe 9 months ago
Guys from Debian didn't disabled to swtich to Netbook Edition, it wasn't in 4.4.5 version... It appeared later.
aliancemd 9 months ago
@aliancemd Kubuntu 10.04 shipped with KDE 4.4
74ryanwolf 6 months ago
Is Debian faster than Ubuntu?
fdh2006 9 months ago
@fdh2006
yes...
Linux4UnMe 9 months ago
@fdh2006 Don't listen to him... :) Debian is not faster than Ubuntu.
A lot of people say that Arch Linux is faster than Ubuntu but benchmarks demonstrated, there r no differences between distros... Only if u use KDE for example which eats a lot of Processor and RAM vs LXDE which is a very light Desktop Environment...
Search for phoronix dot com and u'll see, there are a lot of benchmarks. There are differences in performance between NTFS and EXT4 filesystems and other filesystems but not Distros
aliancemd 9 months ago
@aliancemd
It may not be a significant difference... but comparing the two on my hardware... debian uses slightly less resources compared to ubuntu and has less software (by default) That is why I said Yes.... It may not be noticeable on decent hardware so you may be right to an extent also
Linux4UnMe 9 months ago
@Linux4UnMe yes, the distros have different apps running and different hardware resources in use
stonix1992 9 months ago
@aliancemd Debian is faster.
BrandurJustinussen 9 months ago
@Sb0yce Even on gnome (which is a heavy desktop environment compared to LXDE, Xfce, Openbox and others) i got 80MB RAM used @ Debian 6 with netinstall (just on gnome-core). I installed compiz just for fun and now its on 150MB RAM. Ive used LXDE on debian too and trust me, firefox is more heavy than the whole system.
hindukushh777 9 months ago
Linux Mint 10 is better :P
NikolaGB 10 months ago
@NikolaGB LMDE (LInux Mint Debian Edition) may be better than Debian as well.
Tonyrave3535 9 months ago 2
@Sb0yce
Don't forget that the term "Linux" is just referring to the Kernel. There is no Operating System called "Linux" Distro's come out and package what they want to package on top of the Linux Kernel and that is their Linux based Operating sytem. There are many flavours of Distros from something as light as 50mb like DamnSmallLinux, to something heavier Like Sabayon Linux Kde. You can pick and choose what you want and strip out what you don't want and it's still Linux
Linux4UnMe 10 months ago
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DeMeNtId4life 10 months ago
Can you use windows programs(MS office)and play normal games on this OS?
robbedoes1985 10 months ago
@robbedoes1985
you can.... but it is not worth the effort and amount of time spent tweaking with emulation.....
Linux4UnMe 10 months ago
@TheLinuxsensei I prefer Debian. In Ubuntu (Karmic/Lucid, 64 bit) I never got the flashplayer or javaplugin to be stable in all browsers. And in 9.10 the wireless was a nightmare. My impression is there are fewer but better threads in the Debian forums, and the documentation is less outdated. On the other hand, I don't think Ubuntu being branded as newbie-friendly is a bad thing or makes it less advanced in any way. Debian just happens to harmonize better with my logics (and hardware).
Elantry 10 months ago
You can fix KDE on a virtual machine. Go to the style in the System Settings and you can set an option to use "low cpu usage low memory system" and it runs amazing.
hakkai153 11 months ago
@hakkai153
heyyyy Great Tip!!! I never noticed that before! Maybe this will fix the issue with kde being laggy on a netbook. wooooot
Linux4UnMe 11 months ago
@Linux4UnMe - Sorry the option is called "low cpu low resolution screen", my bad. Also, I think it should run great on a netbook if you turn off the desktop effects and set that option. It certainly makes it bearable in a virtualbox. I am glad to hear that you are using Debian on a real install, it is my favourite distribution. I actually use stable. On another note, you can install the netbook version of KDE in debian if you install the package plasma-netbook. Have fun, good video! :)
hakkai153 11 months ago
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.....
saalikr 11 months ago
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don't be a douche people those distros are dying, Join Ubuntu! Resistance is futile!
KaxiLaxi 11 months ago
@KaxiLaxi Resistance is you ass! Kubuntu & Debian FTW !!!
GoGZzz1000 11 months ago
@KaxiLaxi Without Debian there would be no Ubuntu..
74ryanwolf 6 months ago 23
@74ryanwolf
without ubuntu there would be no steaming piles of dog shit..... haha. i'm just kidding yya:D
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
This distro is the best I have used, I have been distro hopping for a while I always find the other distros are lacking in some major area. Not stable, really ancient packages, upgrades every 6 months, broken package mangers/updaters, compiz performance, glitches, slow, etc...
This distro is awesome, it installs only the basic programs, no bloat, I can install bleeding edge programs if I want but have a stable basic OS, and no upgrades, no visual glitches, very responsive. It's almost perfect.
QuiteNot 1 year ago
@QuiteNot
true dat.... although if your using debian stable... it is still a cycle distro except every 2 years or so instead of 6 months. But upgrading debian is more reliable than ubuntu for example......... otherwise you could use debian testing which is rolling and just keep updating to the latest version with updates.....
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
@Linux4UnMe damn really...how is the testing branch, i heard it's pretty stable anyway ? It's not like it's unstable or experimental ; )
QuiteNot 1 year ago
One major problem that I can't work out though and have seen it before, is that commbank plays up. I thought it was commbank, but it's not, in windows i can log in first time every time, as well as every other distro i have tried, only debian for some reason plays up. Could be because of the website being h t t p s or something....any ideas ?
QuiteNot 1 year ago
@QuiteNot
I sometimes have problems with certain websites on Firefox.... usually these websites are designed to only support Windows Explorer... try adding a firefox plugin called "user agent switcher" and set it to run in Windows Explorer mode and give that website another try. I bet ya it will work
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
@Linux4UnMe I might try that, cause i noticed chromium works just fine. It's a firefox/debian problem i believe.
QuiteNot 1 year ago
@QuiteNot
cool. Or maybe the newer versions of firefox have fixed that problem? maybe try that too ;)
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
@Linux4UnMe Yeh, maybe a firefox 4 beta might fix the problem....but in no other distro have i had this problem. Probably because of my inexperience in setting up debian, probably needs a package to make it work.
QuiteNot 1 year ago
Tried the latest firefox 4 beta, no good either.
QuiteNot 1 year ago
@QuiteNot
no idea mate..... but it works on other distros? Maybe Debian's version of firefox has a feature disabled by default...... Maybe the website uses Java? which is probly not installed by default on debian? only thing I can think of.......... did you try the user agent plugin? if all else fails post on the debian forums... you will surely get a quick reply about it
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
@Linux4UnMe Could be, cause i installed java made sure it was working. The user agent plugin i set to internet explorer 8 no good either. I'll try the forums. Thanks.
QuiteNot 1 year ago
@QuiteNot
testing branch is good and quite stable...but you will get bugs still
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
@Linux4UnMe Testing might be ok and I can't wait for gnome 3 it looks really different and cool. But I just tried btnx in debian and it just works. I have never seen it just work before. I can't give up this amount of stability.
QuiteNot 1 year ago
single distro worth over ubuntu for casual user in a linux os ( stability will give new ppl trust in change, over windows )
trakhull 1 year ago
WHAT THE FUCK IS A FUCKING DEBIAN?!
(Its gay as hell, thats what it is....)
boomboomxz 1 year ago
@boomboomxz
What's gay is retarded Comments from the mind of an amateur 10 year old
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
@Linux4UnMe lol im 13 and dont think as like this... balblabla...
MrLinuxkid 1 year ago
@MrLinuxkid
errmmm. ok............ :s
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
nice.........check yr mail
sneekylinux 1 year ago
@sneekylinux
check my mail??
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
Nice review - Thanks.
OmenX13 1 year ago
@TheLinuxsensei
Nothing wrong with Ubuntu.... But I don't find Debian hard at all to get up and running the way I want it.... I prefer Debian Squeeze over Ubuntu because it has next to no obvious bugs and all the packages are patched and stable to the point where Ubuntu could never match that quality... Squeeze is intended for a Production Environment where you can't afford for anything to go wrong with it. But to each his own eh
lol Barry Norman
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
Debian is definitely a great and stable OS
swathepocalypse 1 year ago
Nice review mate, might try this as my secondary distro as well
ElderSnake90 1 year ago
@TheLinuxsensei Depends on the user I guess and preferences; I like Ubuntu and indeed I started out with it but I find it includes too much junk I just don't want these days so I just stick to Arch. And well I'm a serial tinkerer lol
ElderSnake90 1 year ago
The space theme is because the character "Squeeze" in Toy Stoy is a 3 eyed alien... Nice review
PingJocky69 1 year ago
@PingJocky69
true dat. thanx for reminding me hehe ;)
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
Great video, thanks for the review!
NordicPenguin 1 year ago
Looks good, but I'll stick with Ubuntu. I may start playing with kde.
zinadork 1 year ago
I tried this in VBox but couldnt for the life of me get the guest additions installed, also couldnt add myself to sudoers (that was the message)..if you know how to do this with Debian as guest I would be very grateful to hear from you. Regards
icekool666 1 year ago
@icekool666
you can just add the guest additions from within virtualbox, make sure it is mounted in virtualbox when you boot into the installed distro, go into /media and install the x86 one with "./blahblah.x86"
Debian does not use sudo.... you use "su"
Linux4UnMe 1 year ago
@Linux4UnMe thanks for you're answer, yes I have done this successfully a lot of times in other guest OS's and tried just 'su' in Debian, it still didnt want it though. I've been pulling my hair out over this. I always follow the steps as per your comment. Maybe just a glitch in either the guest install or VBox itself, no big deal but just a pain :-)
icekool666 1 year ago
I love debian, one of my favourites, its just really annoying that 4.5 or 4.6 havent been packaged yet, not even for unstable lol!
lindsaymobil22 1 year ago