Absolutely. A raiz is a gumbi with no hands. So to do a TD-Raiz, you are "technically" supposed to have a gumbi first (if you follow the proper path of tricks)
That was proper nice man, I was hoping to see a slow-mo though, because most people with tutorials seem to over-look the hand placement, and this is the best of all individual vids I've seen of a gumbi.
@ryukenosuke Is there different types of gumbis? I've seen a lot of gumbi's that aren't really arched, I'm not sure if you would even consider them gumbi's?
For being as simple as it is, it's certainly difficult to explain to people. This isn't a motion people use on an everyday basis, so it can be rather difficult. Especially to find your balance while inverted.
@888167 Haha, noo! A gumbi is in no way shape or form the same as a round-off. Look at how he sets up, and how he places his hands. Totally different.
@XOFlipNinjaOX I'm not talking about the setup or anything.
just about the placement of the hands. do a straight roundoff in slow mo and u will realize that I'm right. It may sound wrong, but actually it's a similar motion
@888167 But for most people the motion for the gumbi is like doing a round-off on the opposite side they are used to. So that's why he said people aren't used to the motion :D
@XOFlipNinjaOX I know... your first sentence is almost exactly the same thing like I said, and your second sentence I never said that that's wrong : D
@888167 My first sentence was not the same. Because you said that a gumbi is like a cart-wheel with an arched back. It sort of is, but it's WAY harder. It's like doing a cartwheel going forward and backward (instead of side to side) But going the OPPOSITE way you are used to. So no, a gumbi and a round-off may look the same, but doing a real gumbi feels alot different than a simple round-off ^-^
@888167 But a gumbi and a round-off are VERY different. A gumbi is like a riaz with hands. So the set-up and the feeling is different. It's like doing an over the top cartwheel on your OPPOSITE side, so it's harder. The gumbi is very easy, but it's a lot harder and feels alot more different than a simple round-off. :)
Well, there are 2 different types of raiz. A low raiz, such as the video I uploaded titled "Tatsumaru's raiz," and then there are high raiz, which is an inverted tornado kick...but you don't snap the kick. You actually just let the leg trail behind. Do a tornado take-off, but don't snap kick, lay back and spot the ground over your shoulder to land. that's a high raiz.
It's actually very similar. The major difference is we completely invert and arch our back to allow the legs to come back down for a smooth swing-thru. Bboys keep their legs lower and more towards the outside for building power and inertia. You've got good eyes to spot that. ( :
The gumbi is the pre-requisite for a low-raiz (the overly inverted raiz). The high-raiz just requires a tornado kick as a pre-req, and you simply arch your back while leaning back, and do the tornado...for the most part. Which do you do?
I, personally, find it quite difficult to comprehend, and has taken me ages to get it. You should really work on compasso, a wheel kick variation from the martial arts of cappoeira. Then modify that into a gumbi. You'll feel like you just messed up the compasso and put your hand behind you to save you from falling...and alas, you just gumbi'd. It's very awkward, but quite fluid.
I don't get why this move gives me so much trouble...but ever since I broke my wrist from a bad back-handspring, training this is....iffy with me. I hope you get it down, though.
It's such a smooth move and excellent for turning a low-landed flip trick into a swing through, such as a low landed cork>compasso>gumbi>gainer or whatever you want to come up with.
In a cartwheel you kick straight over, and in a gumbi you kick around. He also has his hands perpendicular to his feet when he lands, in a cartwheel everything should be in a straight line.
I'd say the easy way to explain is it's a compasso kick stopped half way, and then flung over like a cartwheel. Watch Sesshoumaru's raiz tutorial for an excellent demonstration of the differences.
Gumbi? Hmmm, learn to do a compasso, first. Plenty of tutorials on YT for that. NEways, when you learn the compasso and get that down without even thinking about it, then focus on shifting it into a gumbi. A gumbi starts off like a compasso, but instead of finishing the heel kick of the compasso, you press off with the leg still on the ground, reach over your shoulder with your 2nd hand/arm, and arch your back as your legs travel over your head. It'll feel like an odd cartwheel.
Sesshoumaru has a great tutorial on "raiz" but he breaks it down into compasso, gumbi, and then raiz. Look at that tutorial to see how the compasso turns into a gumbi. Good luck to you.
Compasso is a capoeira wheel kick. The kick has your torso close to the ground, leg in the air, and the opposite hand of the kicking leg touches the ground. Like I suggested to jeotheazl, check out Sesshoumaru's raiz tutorial vid to see what it looks like.
It's an underground sport called tricking. I do not know of any commercial locations that teach it. My friends and myself teach each other and ourselves. There are many tutorial vids on the web plus a website w w w [dot] trickstutorials [dot] com where most of us congregate.
oh yea, i've seen that sight, but i have no kind of backround with this kind of stuff so i really dont catch on very quickly...which is kinda sad D: i've been trying to aerial for a little while, guess i cant get it the first try but its hard :(
Ah, yes. The aerial. I, too, have only martial arts background, but no acrobatic experience prior to tricking. As for the aerial, I was told to train power cartwheels. Cartwheels with way too much inertia than I really need. Then my buddy got me doing a similar twist setup as per a butterfly kick (without the dip). This built my inertia. I then trained attempted aerials with only putting down my hand should I need it. Soon, I got it 95% of the time. Good luck to you.
Oh, and there are two types of aerials. Gymnist and martial arts. A martial arts aerial is almost exactly a cartwheel without hands. You remain looking sideways all the way through. A gymnist aerial (like the one in Team Ukemi's tutorial on youtube) has you start by looking forward, and you do a slight stall and twist with your hips and land facing where you began. I, personally, believe the martial arts to be easier, as I just learned gymnist last week.
"Inertia" is a physics term. It basically is the kinetic energy an object has while it is moving. This energy would keep the object moving if no forces acted upon it, such as gravity. To put this to use in tricking, use the energy you build up to actually perform the trick.
is gumbi a step before touch down raiz ??plz
zekidz 2 months ago
Absolutely. A raiz is a gumbi with no hands. So to do a TD-Raiz, you are "technically" supposed to have a gumbi first (if you follow the proper path of tricks)
ryukenosuke 2 months ago
@ryukenosuke thanks man
zekidz 2 months ago
Anytime. ( :
ryukenosuke 2 months ago
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HippyHarvey 7 months ago
Are you asking a question, or are you trying to be arrogant?
ryukenosuke 7 months ago
@HippyHarvey That sure was a gumbi.
stylizhmathias 6 months ago
@HippyHarvey Lol. I would love to hear how you figure that this was not actually a gumbi.
IanALane 5 months ago
That was proper nice man, I was hoping to see a slow-mo though, because most people with tutorials seem to over-look the hand placement, and this is the best of all individual vids I've seen of a gumbi.
JustElijah 8 months ago
Perhaps the next time I hang out with Tatsu, I'll bring my camera and do just that.
ryukenosuke 7 months ago
@ryukenosuke Ok cheers man.
JustElijah 7 months ago
@ryukenosuke Is there different types of gumbis? I've seen a lot of gumbi's that aren't really arched, I'm not sure if you would even consider them gumbi's?
sondeleb 1 month ago
Personally, I'd say no. Everyone has their own style, of course, but I do think the arch is a major criteria for a gumbi to be a gumbi.
ryukenosuke 1 month ago
so a gumbi is a cart whee looking thing
cheat123 8 months ago
Basically. It's a cartwheel that you take off backwards (which is why he ends up turning around), and you arch your back.
ryukenosuke 8 months ago
I need a tutorial for tht. Or atleast it in slow motion!
Sike1469 1 year ago
Whenever we get some time, I'll see if I can remember to record this in slo-mo.
ryukenosuke 1 year ago
this trick is sooooo easy
888167 1 year ago
For being as simple as it is, it's certainly difficult to explain to people. This isn't a motion people use on an everyday basis, so it can be rather difficult. Especially to find your balance while inverted.
ryukenosuke 1 year ago 2
@ryukenosuke you don't need to balance your not standing!
it's a just a carthweel with a arched back. just place your hand arch your back and place your 2nd hand like in a roundoff and TADAAAAA.... u got it
888167 1 year ago
@888167 Haha, noo! A gumbi is in no way shape or form the same as a round-off. Look at how he sets up, and how he places his hands. Totally different.
XOFlipNinjaOX 1 year ago
@XOFlipNinjaOX I'm not talking about the setup or anything.
just about the placement of the hands. do a straight roundoff in slow mo and u will realize that I'm right. It may sound wrong, but actually it's a similar motion
888167 1 year ago
@888167 But for most people the motion for the gumbi is like doing a round-off on the opposite side they are used to. So that's why he said people aren't used to the motion :D
XOFlipNinjaOX 1 year ago
@XOFlipNinjaOX I know... your first sentence is almost exactly the same thing like I said, and your second sentence I never said that that's wrong : D
888167 1 year ago
@888167 My first sentence was not the same. Because you said that a gumbi is like a cart-wheel with an arched back. It sort of is, but it's WAY harder. It's like doing a cartwheel going forward and backward (instead of side to side) But going the OPPOSITE way you are used to. So no, a gumbi and a round-off may look the same, but doing a real gumbi feels alot different than a simple round-off ^-^
XOFlipNinjaOX 1 year ago
@888167 But a gumbi and a round-off are VERY different. A gumbi is like a riaz with hands. So the set-up and the feeling is different. It's like doing an over the top cartwheel on your OPPOSITE side, so it's harder. The gumbi is very easy, but it's a lot harder and feels alot more different than a simple round-off. :)
XOFlipNinjaOX 1 year ago
Well, there are 2 different types of raiz. A low raiz, such as the video I uploaded titled "Tatsumaru's raiz," and then there are high raiz, which is an inverted tornado kick...but you don't snap the kick. You actually just let the leg trail behind. Do a tornado take-off, but don't snap kick, lay back and spot the ground over your shoulder to land. that's a high raiz.
ryukenosuke 2 years ago
I'll need to try this, the set up looks sorta like a powermove set up for 90's, airflares, swipes, but doing a cartwheel instead.
Am I wrong?
Flashlegz 2 years ago
It's actually very similar. The major difference is we completely invert and arch our back to allow the legs to come back down for a smooth swing-thru. Bboys keep their legs lower and more towards the outside for building power and inertia. You've got good eyes to spot that. ( :
ryukenosuke 2 years ago
i cant do this thing, its hard, but i can do a Raiz very easily.....hmmm not sure why
fusmusic 2 years ago
The gumbi is the pre-requisite for a low-raiz (the overly inverted raiz). The high-raiz just requires a tornado kick as a pre-req, and you simply arch your back while leaning back, and do the tornado...for the most part. Which do you do?
ryukenosuke 2 years ago
i think i got the high raiz, look at my new vid i just posted up. its my raiz
fusmusic 2 years ago
Indeed. Excellent high raiz. Great for swingthru.
ryukenosuke 2 years ago
it looks like a cartwheel.
MrBrownf2 2 years ago
It's kind of like a backwards cartwheel with an arched back. The arch lets you end the move with a swingthru to combo more moves in.
ryukenosuke 2 years ago
ah, i understand, is it much harder than a normal cardwheel_?
MrBrownf2 2 years ago
I, personally, find it quite difficult to comprehend, and has taken me ages to get it. You should really work on compasso, a wheel kick variation from the martial arts of cappoeira. Then modify that into a gumbi. You'll feel like you just messed up the compasso and put your hand behind you to save you from falling...and alas, you just gumbi'd. It's very awkward, but quite fluid.
ryukenosuke 2 years ago
I don't get the gumbi what is it? it looks like a cartwhell...
tricksterD8 2 years ago
It's a bit more like a reverse cartwheel with an arch in your back. When performed correctly, allows a decent swing thru.
ryukenosuke 2 years ago
good job!
CorvetteZ06Nezumi 2 years ago
You are the best at gumbis that I have ever seen (I have seen 3).
rhysie21 3 years ago
Well, Tatsumaru is. That's not me. He's one of my tricking buds and essentially my teacher.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
Tell him that he's awesome.
rhysie21 3 years ago
Will do. ( :
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
I don't get why this move gives me so much trouble...but ever since I broke my wrist from a bad back-handspring, training this is....iffy with me. I hope you get it down, though.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
same with me, i broke my finger n now any tricks in which my hand touches the ground they are all weird cauz my finger wont go straight :)
gimlysadasda 2 years ago
It's such a smooth move and excellent for turning a low-landed flip trick into a swing through, such as a low landed cork>compasso>gumbi>gainer or whatever you want to come up with.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
In gumbi you have to arch your back alittle for that height when ready to do a inverted raizz
Petrifilms 3 years ago
i cant see the difference between this and cartwheel:S :|
Bassxninja 3 years ago
In a cartwheel you kick straight over, and in a gumbi you kick around. He also has his hands perpendicular to his feet when he lands, in a cartwheel everything should be in a straight line.
It's kind of hard to explain.
Maddaveman 3 years ago
I'd say the easy way to explain is it's a compasso kick stopped half way, and then flung over like a cartwheel. Watch Sesshoumaru's raiz tutorial for an excellent demonstration of the differences.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
im really scared to do a gumbi. how do i get rid of the fear?
joetheazl 3 years ago
Gumbi? Hmmm, learn to do a compasso, first. Plenty of tutorials on YT for that. NEways, when you learn the compasso and get that down without even thinking about it, then focus on shifting it into a gumbi. A gumbi starts off like a compasso, but instead of finishing the heel kick of the compasso, you press off with the leg still on the ground, reach over your shoulder with your 2nd hand/arm, and arch your back as your legs travel over your head. It'll feel like an odd cartwheel.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
Sesshoumaru has a great tutorial on "raiz" but he breaks it down into compasso, gumbi, and then raiz. Look at that tutorial to see how the compasso turns into a gumbi. Good luck to you.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
whats a compasso? is that like a wheel kick?
Demonmod12 3 years ago
Compasso is a capoeira wheel kick. The kick has your torso close to the ground, leg in the air, and the opposite hand of the kicking leg touches the ground. Like I suggested to jeotheazl, check out Sesshoumaru's raiz tutorial vid to see what it looks like.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
where do you go to learn this stuffs? and is it expensive?
Gomar3 3 years ago
It's an underground sport called tricking. I do not know of any commercial locations that teach it. My friends and myself teach each other and ourselves. There are many tutorial vids on the web plus a website w w w [dot] trickstutorials [dot] com where most of us congregate.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
oh yea, i've seen that sight, but i have no kind of backround with this kind of stuff so i really dont catch on very quickly...which is kinda sad D: i've been trying to aerial for a little while, guess i cant get it the first try but its hard :(
Gomar3 3 years ago
Ah, yes. The aerial. I, too, have only martial arts background, but no acrobatic experience prior to tricking. As for the aerial, I was told to train power cartwheels. Cartwheels with way too much inertia than I really need. Then my buddy got me doing a similar twist setup as per a butterfly kick (without the dip). This built my inertia. I then trained attempted aerials with only putting down my hand should I need it. Soon, I got it 95% of the time. Good luck to you.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
Oh, and there are two types of aerials. Gymnist and martial arts. A martial arts aerial is almost exactly a cartwheel without hands. You remain looking sideways all the way through. A gymnist aerial (like the one in Team Ukemi's tutorial on youtube) has you start by looking forward, and you do a slight stall and twist with your hips and land facing where you began. I, personally, believe the martial arts to be easier, as I just learned gymnist last week.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
...inertia?? lol
Gomar3 3 years ago
"Inertia" is a physics term. It basically is the kinetic energy an object has while it is moving. This energy would keep the object moving if no forces acted upon it, such as gravity. To put this to use in tricking, use the energy you build up to actually perform the trick.
ryukenosuke 3 years ago
nice... i like the second one better
iamsofly08 4 years ago
It really is. Hehe.
ryukenosuke 4 years ago
Looks so nice, so clean and easy! :)
AndreasXPS 4 years ago
yeah...you got a nice flow...
now swing trough and jump off and you got a nice gainer flash ;)
Paolo1005 4 years ago