Unit 4 + 2 You've Never Been In Love Like This Before 1965

[flammasherman]

Should have been a monster follow up to C & C,plugged to death on Pirate Radio London 'Big - L '.I bought the single but it still didn't help it chart !.

[doktorotter]

Go Hugh!



[Tazbo34]

Brilliant, here buckley54 get a grip, I have the 45rpm version, this is better, cause it's live, fantastic posting, sung from the heart, well done for posting this

[annie482000]

@Tazbo34 I agree with you.

[PsychedelicGuy]

This is so much better than the version on their LP...whonder if this version was revcorded on vinyl?

[tonyhgv]

they came from hoddesdon,hertfodshire

[buckley54]

Complete and utter bollocks!

[jimwalsh2001]

They remind me of the Zombies...

[sterwincom]

Heard this recently on BBC Pirate Radio Essex-brought back loads of memories!!

[bohemiastudios]

Unit 4+2 interesting video.

[rogerhgrew]

Great video - different from the actual record.

[moorlock2003]

Yes, an alternate version of the band's second Top 20 hit. Very nice, but I think the released version is stronger. Thanks for posting this!

[rogerhgrew]

Yes the released version is stronger, but as far as I know there aren't any videos of it still around. They did appear on Top of the Pops singing it but the BBC wiped the tapes in those days.

[moorlock2003]

"Wiping" was a terrible practice. It's heartbreaking to imagine all the video material that is gone. I'm a big fan of the TV series The Avengers, and to think the vast majority of Season One is......well, I don't even want to go there.

Back to Unit 4: "Concrete and Clay" made No. 28 on the US chart, and "You've Never Been in Love...." made No. 95. The band appeared on the US TV show "Shindig" miming to "Concrete..." although Tommy's mike was on and he can be heard singing over his own voice.

[rogerhgrew]

I've got a copy of the Shindig "Concrete and Clay". A German TV video of "You ain't going nowhere" from 1968 is also on YouTube, by the way.

[moorlock2003]

Is your copy of the Shindig "Concrete..." of better quality than the one currently on YouTube? Yes, I am aware of "You Ain't Going Nowhere". I like it a lot.

[rogerhgrew]

My copies much the same

[moorlock2003]

Unit Four plus two were a very underrated band. They had some other excellent singles that deserved more attention. I'm thinking about "I Will", "3:30", and "I Was Only Playing Games". But a number of LP tracks were excellent as well, such as "Wild As The Wind", and "Cross A Million Mountains". I need to get my old vinyl out and listen again. Good band. I think "You Ain't Going Nowhere" had a bit of chart action in Europe. Germany perhaps?

[rogerhgrew]

Totally agree. You may have gathered that they were my favourite band. I've got copies of all their releases and several by individual band members after the group split.

[moorlock2003]

I have both the mono and stereo versions of the band's US LP "#1, featuring Concrete and Clay". The stereo LP has a mixture of fake (rechannelled stereo) and some true stereo mixes. Unfortunately there appears to be no stereo mixes of their two main hits. I also have that budget LP on Fontana with the later singles and other tracks. They did some good cover versions as well as a few misfires, such as "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'", but I don't like the song by anyone.

[rogerhgrew]

The US #1 LP has several different tracks on it complared to the UK 1st album which was released a few months earier. But the strangest 'quirk' is the song "Woman from Liberia" which was an A side of their first single in the US but only ever released on a multi-artist charity LP in the UK until it appeared on a compilation CD in 1993. Most of their work is now available on Fa couple of French Repertoire CDs.

[moorlock2003]

Wasn't "Sorrow and Pain" the reverse side of "Woman from Liberia"? (I don't have a discography handy). At one time I had the UK LP. I know "500 Miles" was on it and not on the US LP. The US single of "Concrete..." was released with two different B-sides. One was "Wild As The Wind" and the other was "When I Fall in Love". What label was "You Ain't Going Nowhere" released on?

[rogerhgrew]

Sorrow and Pain was an A side in the UK (Lonely Valley was it's B side) but in the US it was thought that Woman from Liberia was more commercial (Chad an Jeremy were popular at the time singing material like that). Conrete and Clay had When I fall in love as its B side in the UK and 9as you say) it was in the US as well at first, but it was replaced by Wild is the Wind so that the group got more royalties.

[moorlock2003]

That makes sense about the royalties issue. Tommy was certainly talented; a singer, writer, and terrific frontman. He definitely had it in the looks department; very suave, the way Allan Clarke of The Hollies (my favorite band) was early-on.

[Astra64]

Roger, My cousin recently moved to NZ and he was kind enough to give me his album "Cally Cavalier" that he earthed out of his attic before he left.

He heard me playing the disc you did for me and soon after presented me with it.

[rogerhgrew]

Glad you've got a copy of the actual LP. I only found out that the record existed after I'd bought the Singles CD with the two bonus tracks by Parker-Moeller reunion and then "googled" it to see if there were any more records that they'd made. I then managed to get a copy via eBay. As you will have seen from the LP cover it was recorded in London but only released in Germany.

[Astra64]

Yes I did notice that. my cousin said he'd got the album in Munich while on a weekend break with his brother. He heard one of the tracks and bought it. He said that he probably has some more stuff stashed away. He also gave me the single "Love Don't make a fool out of me".

[rogerhgrew]

"Love don't make a fool out of me" was recorded in Australia in 1987. Again I bought it through eBay. Your cousin clearly has similar tastes in music.

[Astra64]

I must admit he does surprise me. He was born in 1968, and always says that the music from the 60's is the best. even though most of it came before his birth.

[sue2208]

@Astra64 Tommy was born in1945, this song was recorded BEFORE 1968 perhaps a typo?

[rogerhgrew]

I've sent you an eMail with a copy of a BBC recording "Since I lost my baby" which i don't think I had when I sent you the CD with "Cally Cavalier" etc on it.

[cbthirty]

You`re quite right moorlock2003.

They WERE an underrated band.Most of their songs were brilliant, unfortunately none of the songs charted in the UK except for four of them.

I have an audio CD of their songs.