21? attempts at rolling (then a swim)

[TheLazyKayaker]

people stop giving kayaking tips when you know fuck all

[wetbivybag]

If you can get a breath, you're never going to get up because you're lifting your head. You life your head out of the water on every attempt. A head is so heavy it will tip you right back over. I'm guessing the water was really cold. It's dangerous to stay out of control in the flow. You could have got pinned whilst upside down. Just relax and make sure you're the right way up before you lift your head. And work on your hip flick.

[TheLazyKayaker]

@wetbivybag trust me i think he knows how to roll now look at some of is vids

[wetbivybag]

@TheLazyKayaker erm....I'm guessing after 21 attempts I'm going to hazard a guess at "he can't" He's lifting his head out of the water each time too soon.

[TheLazyKayaker]

@wetbivybag have u ever been to hurly no chance of being pinned and by your previous comment it sounds like you have next to no paddling experience

[wetbivybag]

@TheLazyKayaker I've been paddling for 12 years. I think I know what I'm on about. If the guy could roll he would have rolled. Period! Get over it!

[15CARSY]

keep the  head down

[ProffaSam]

Man learn to roll before rafting! What if he falls on a rapid and drowns?

[TheLazyKayaker]

@ProffaSam this is kayaking you retard

[tremayne6489]

you have to respect that kind of determination

[soleary0339]

love the online heroes. this guy has balls of steel and have never seen such a tenacious struggle. with the video 3 years old now, i would be willing to bet this guy is pretty good now

[applefries32]

wrong

[applefries32]

The WHOLE REASON he can't roll is because he's bringing his head up WAY to early! Hip flick or not - ya need to bring your head up last.

[RobHendy]

So there is a cross over between

hip transition (like in C to C)

+

hip "flick"

I suppose what i am saying is that the word flick implies power is being used every time-Not needed in beginners "pilata" roll.

hip flicks are effective, and do work, but when COMBINED with an INCORRECT paddle/technique, success is reduced. i know many people myself where they have thrown away their paddle to just concentrate on technique, and solely use the hipflick. I have NOT said the hipflick doesnt work alone.

[morgasm657]

some people like hip flicks and some people like paddle technique, personally the couple of times i have had to and been able to roll in the few white water kayaking trips i have been able to make, i have only really used the hipflick, my paddle technique is basic, eskimo roll style, but the hipflick allows you to twist the boat around you rather than trying to flip the boat. which i always found hard. a good powerful hipflick should work wonders with any decent paddle technique.

[RobHendy]

more people can roll with strong, forceful rolls, where is the power? it is the body that gets it round. However, the paddle (or hands) need to be in place first. The paddle NEEDS TO BE FLAT, or hands need to be at the surface.

Hence, the paddle IS the most important bit.

[TechnoEngineer]

Not if you're Cheri Perry - see video vTsFLbEmXLM ("Straightjacket Kayak Roll")

[geod5]

actually you can do a role with basically no paddle force. he didnt role because he tried to get his body up when you are meant to get the boat round then torso then head. so actually to make the best role technique is the most important aspect i mean i can role with a vertical blade so (in my personal opinion technique is best)

[kyaker123]

the guy who voiced this sounds pretty cool, a good mate at least.. i dont know what it is but there is something about how he speaks?

[RobHendy]

I've been paddling for 10 years, L2 Coach, taught lots of people 2 roll and never needed 2 work on hip flicks. They put an element of power in it which compensates for poor technique. A horizontal blade is needed not vertical like this guy. The body follows blade, head comes out last. The only PADDLE roll which may need more hip movement is the "C-C", but this is still not as much of a "flick" as a swap. Ill give you hip flick for hand roll as it is a completely different way of getting back up.

[iliveathurley]

power can compensate but when teaching girls hipflick is definately needed and also when in rough water its a lot better to be able to come up without a lot of power as if you end up doing lots of rolls you may get tired and the hip flick makes the roll much faster. people i know that have learnt a proper correct hip flick can roll up with a vertical paddle because its so effective.

[ntilley88]

Rob, I'd have to strongly disagree.

The hip flick is actually all technique.

The paddle shouldnt be used to exert all the force as it puts pressure on arms and shoulds which are in extended positions.

The blade should be used purely as a support on the surface of the water.

Body rotation and the hip flick are far more important than the blade.

However if your blade is vertical as this persons hip flicking will not work as well as the blade will create lots of drag underwater.

[lemonmeringuepie]

Allah loves a try'er!!

[RobHendy]

Nothing to do with hip snaps or heads, its the angle of the paddle blade that is piercing the water instead of sculling over the top. Get the paddle right and everything else follows it.

[lofty276]

of course it's ALL to do with hips mate, thats why u don't need a paddle to body or hand roll!

[1L0velife]

Lol how slowly can the other person paddle to him?

[guydude1206]

is that tom turner talking?

[DaveWortley]

nope

[northcave]

that looks bad, you don't want to a get a lung full while thats happening

[jones121111]

I counted 16 proper attempts...pretty heroic.

[akjondal]

Bad ass loung capasity. Practise the hipsnap, buddy!

[ayres1]

lol i hadnt seen that youd put this up!

and thanks for the advice guys i did learn to roll (more or less)  but everyones got to start somewhere!

[xplosionbaseball]

whaa r3t@rd

[r3dw00ds]

Wow, best laugh iv had in ages!

[Athrunsan]

lmao, 10/10 for effort, just needs someone to show him how to do it right.

[jfscr]

way to hang in there but keep your head down

[KayakBloke]

Man that is one of the funniest things I've seen in ages.

Top marks to the guy for hanging on in there.

Perhaps he should channel some of that willpower into learning to roll.....:-)

[tzuyunLU]

is he not drawn yet? ha...

[hardmanharding]

must av sum lungs

most i fink iv gt is 4 den reckd n no energy