So how can Moroni be an angel when he was supposedly a man? Mormons have always taught in a progression to Godhood. Do you become an angel first before becoming a God?
We should be glad we are not the Copter pilot, the idea of lifting and placing a pagan idol onto a cult temple is morally revulsive to Christians. Alas, This inert piece of stone, incapable of speaking, has deceived many thru the lies of Joe Smith, the Lying Mormon and his cabal of Freemasons.
@IExposeMormonism Its Not pagan, We are not a cult, We belive in christ too you dumb ass. HA could you call your self Christan when you were listening to the devil as you wrote this, how? the christan church stoped using the Real words of christ when the cut out parts of the bible that where the most important. Your a major Dumb Ass.
@themetalgod23 Which parts were cut out? The parts on polygamous Jesus, god and polytheism? the part on blood atonement? Adam-God? which parts were hacked out and waiting to be restored. Watching Moroni being erected I'm thinking Mormonism is Mor about erection and less about resurrection.
Its true Mormons do not worship Moroni, and they will claim not to worship Joseph Smith, yet they choose to sanitize and polish his character and that of Brigham young. As for Joseph Smith, Mormons have a hymn called, "Praise to the Man", they put JESUS CHRIST as a bold font on the front of their churches, but their attention to Joseph is KNOWN the world over, want a real look to TRUE Mormonism research the FLDS, these are much more in line with the teachings of Joseph Smith
guys? people worship mary for goodness sake! we dont worship moroni! he is a symbol for the work moving forward in the latterday! just in the way that people use the fish or the crucifix!
Aloha! It's too bad there are Mormons everywhere. In France, in London, in California, in South Korea, in Hawaii, in Tonga...how did those Mormons convince sooo many people to join their church?
Mormons CAN'T convince people to join the Church. Only Holy Ghost can. That how they did it. That's how and why I've joined. I didn't believe the Mormons until Holy Ghost did something about it.
Very sad. I see a golden Idol being lifted up instead of Jesus. Money uselessly spent over and over again on their temples. I am not anti-mormon, I have family and friends that are Mormon. But . . . thank the Lord I found the truth in His word, the Bible.
really? your not anti-mormon? cuz ya sound a tiny bit bitter about "the idol" which isn't an idol by the way. its a symbol. there is a difference. Mormons don't face Utah when they pray or anything
who needs a angel? I have CHRIST the ONLY savior.. no other can save.. another gospel revelation, or joseph smith ou angel moroni! the biblie is the truth
dimtry19 you couldn't be more correct! Moroni was a lying spirit and the LDS church has fallen for it hook, line and sinker. May God bless you for figuring this out. May others continue to read the Bible and figure out that Joseph Smith was a fraud.
..Gal1:8-9 as well as Rev.22:18 refers to and curses ANY other gospel..please note that the prophet mohammed like joseph smith used the SAME storyline to justify starting their new "gospels:.." ...visit ferom an angel(moroni/ gabriel/)..taught that ALL the churches were "false...that there was "another testament" (book of mormon/ koran)... BOTH distorted old testament verses to justify immorality (polygamy)...
I think the reasonthey did not use a crane was fear that driving it up would probably damage the landscape and other parts of the ground. I think it was a very good use of fuel. Merry Christmas.
Absolutley awesome to see. I was at the Temple this week and cannot wait until the scafolding comes down so we can see the Angel Moroni in place, a fantastic video and i thank who ever posted it on utube... For those of you out there who are unsure of the importance of the Angel Moroni please go and investigate before you comment.... I bid you all a good christmas 2008 and a fantastic new year 2009.
See o*m*i*o*l*o C o. try to promote Mormonism. C o. try to protect MORmONISM. C o. get mad. C o. say "w*h*o*r*e" to others. C the video made about o. saying "whore". C o. run to Youtube admin about the video. C o. cry & cry. C the video get pulled. C o. come around again. C o. order people around encouraged by Youtube admin folly. C o. make an ass of himself. See us laugh at the "w*h*o*r*e" cry baby o*m*i*o*l*o
I understand the sun reflection could have distracted pilots flying over the temple (Gatwick flight path) so permission was not granted. Unless anyone knows otherwise.
As I understand it, it was something in the original design. If you have access to pictures of the Temple before it's refurb in the early nineties you will see the spire was different. Perhaps with a change in technology 50 years after its construction, the refurbishment in 1992 and what appears to be a trend to add the Angel Moroni rather than leave him out (note other temples left out, such as Hawaii, Frankfurt, Bern...) they changed their minds - though this is just personal conjecture.
I too heard the "don't distract the pilot on landing" story as Kilapi58 but that was as an explanation for why the spire was so dull and not illuminated. Not sure what the reason was for no angel the first time round.
Yes. If they just built the tower round the statue or carefully placed it up there using a small device on the scaffolding that would be boring. But with an eye to public relations they have to put on a dramatic show. Never mind the ammount of fuel wasted putting the angel up there.
Waste of fuel?? Why are people keen to tell other people how to spend their money but are never to keen to listen to the same advise. Freedom of choice my friends but I guess you can find fault in anything if you look hard. enough.
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Thanks for posting this. I had no idea this event was taking place and it just makes me so grateful that with millions of £££s in unspent Humanitarian Aid and Fast Offering sat in the Church's HSBC account, we somehow managed to find the money to put a statue on top of the London (or is that Lingfield?) Temple.
I don't know what 'significance' this holds for philrawlinson1948 or in what way Moroni (or Nephi) is the LDS 'Star of David' but i doubt it will make any impact on the nation.
Perhaps where you are it does, but here in the UK (where the new angel Moroni resides) the church banks with HSBC. And i know how much money the church has because as a registered charity it is obliged to submit annual financial reports to the Charities Commission.
Check it out online, the Church has 2 main registration numbers, 242451 and 274605.
Perhaps to clarify - you're both right. Missionaries all over the world are funded through one sole bank, JP Morgan Chase. However, the Church uses national banks (as opposed to international banks) for each country it is in. For example when I was in France, the Church banked with LCL (Le Credit Lyonnais).
This is a significant moment for all Latterday Saints in Britain. Suitably just before the celebration of the birth of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. What a great day, and what a great life we have, with the knowledge that we are truly and eternally grateful to all the prophets, past, present and future, but that we only have one God, the Eternal Father, and that our Saviour and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, atoned for us, died for us, and He still intercedes for us.
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omiolo1/Gidgiddoni why don't you come out of the Shadows and make a video yourself, you have so much to say. Are you hideously malformed or something?
So how can Moroni be an angel when he was supposedly a man? Mormons have always taught in a progression to Godhood. Do you become an angel first before becoming a God?
Not adding up ...
FAITHandLOGIC 1 year ago
Revelations 8:3
LDS4Life71 1 year ago
We should be glad we are not the Copter pilot, the idea of lifting and placing a pagan idol onto a cult temple is morally revulsive to Christians. Alas, This inert piece of stone, incapable of speaking, has deceived many thru the lies of Joe Smith, the Lying Mormon and his cabal of Freemasons.
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism Its Not pagan, We are not a cult, We belive in christ too you dumb ass. HA could you call your self Christan when you were listening to the devil as you wrote this, how? the christan church stoped using the Real words of christ when the cut out parts of the bible that where the most important. Your a major Dumb Ass.
themetalgod23 1 year ago
@themetalgod23 Which parts were cut out? The parts on polygamous Jesus, god and polytheism? the part on blood atonement? Adam-God? which parts were hacked out and waiting to be restored. Watching Moroni being erected I'm thinking Mormonism is Mor about erection and less about resurrection.
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
You know, for some reason, my husband thinks that it looks like Moroni is bowling, lol! I guess he could like bowling. :P
celestialsunberry 2 years ago
Its true Mormons do not worship Moroni, and they will claim not to worship Joseph Smith, yet they choose to sanitize and polish his character and that of Brigham young. As for Joseph Smith, Mormons have a hymn called, "Praise to the Man", they put JESUS CHRIST as a bold font on the front of their churches, but their attention to Joseph is KNOWN the world over, want a real look to TRUE Mormonism research the FLDS, these are much more in line with the teachings of Joseph Smith
nashaunconwell 2 years ago
Yadda yadda. You know nothing.
celestialsunberry 2 years ago
guys? people worship mary for goodness sake! we dont worship moroni! he is a symbol for the work moving forward in the latterday! just in the way that people use the fish or the crucifix!
jaffarthejamjar 2 years ago
Aloha! It's too bad there are Mormons everywhere. In France, in London, in California, in South Korea, in Hawaii, in Tonga...how did those Mormons convince sooo many people to join their church?
sawayoiolani 2 years ago
Same way the Jehovah's witnesses do...door to door....:)
scooner67 2 years ago
Mormons CAN'T convince people to join the Church. Only Holy Ghost can. That how they did it. That's how and why I've joined. I didn't believe the Mormons until Holy Ghost did something about it.
WayneTheWriter 2 years ago
because our church is true
iyoyungaz 1 year ago
Very sad. I see a golden Idol being lifted up instead of Jesus. Money uselessly spent over and over again on their temples. I am not anti-mormon, I have family and friends that are Mormon. But . . . thank the Lord I found the truth in His word, the Bible.
BluegrassForte 2 years ago
you know mormons believe in the bible too right?
ConnorChubbs 2 years ago 6
yeah we believe in the bible because it is a testament of christ, likewise we believe and sustain the book of mormon, another testament of christ
iyoyungaz 1 year ago
@ConnorChubbs
Mormons believe in "Manner of Ites", "Reformed Egyptian Hieroglyphics" and "Israelite-Native Americans" too, right?
quemacha 1 year ago
@ConnorChubbs
No they don't. They take verses completely out of context and twists the truth to coincide with Mormon literature.
FAITHandLOGIC 1 year ago
@BluegrassForte
really? your not anti-mormon? cuz ya sound a tiny bit bitter about "the idol" which isn't an idol by the way. its a symbol. there is a difference. Mormons don't face Utah when they pray or anything
FireAndIce0o0 2 years ago
who needs a angel? I have CHRIST the ONLY savior.. no other can save.. another gospel revelation, or joseph smith ou angel moroni! the biblie is the truth
Jesus is the way, the thuth and the life!!!
BordiniBlues85 2 years ago
dimtry19 you couldn't be more correct! Moroni was a lying spirit and the LDS church has fallen for it hook, line and sinker. May God bless you for figuring this out. May others continue to read the Bible and figure out that Joseph Smith was a fraud.
sldeyo 3 years ago
..i think moroni is the angel mentioned in the bible (Galatians 1:8-9)
dimtry19 3 years ago
I always thought that Galatians 1:8-9 referred to Joseph Smith Jr.?
EnigmasofToday 3 years ago
..Gal1:8-9 as well as Rev.22:18 refers to and curses ANY other gospel..please note that the prophet mohammed like joseph smith used the SAME storyline to justify starting their new "gospels:.." ...visit ferom an angel(moroni/ gabriel/)..taught that ALL the churches were "false...that there was "another testament" (book of mormon/ koran)... BOTH distorted old testament verses to justify immorality (polygamy)...
dimtry19 3 years ago
actually no it refers to curses to people who add to or remove from the book of revelation, not the whole bible or book of mormon.
ConnorChubbs 2 years ago 4
I think the reasonthey did not use a crane was fear that driving it up would probably damage the landscape and other parts of the ground. I think it was a very good use of fuel. Merry Christmas.
Teankun 3 years ago 2
Actually it was cheaper to use a helicopter than a crane by some £300. The crane was more costly!
johnlds1965 3 years ago
Hey--this is cool, and news to me. Thanks for posting!
lilbooks 3 years ago
Absolutley awesome to see. I was at the Temple this week and cannot wait until the scafolding comes down so we can see the Angel Moroni in place, a fantastic video and i thank who ever posted it on utube... For those of you out there who are unsure of the importance of the Angel Moroni please go and investigate before you comment.... I bid you all a good christmas 2008 and a fantastic new year 2009.
cbhflip 3 years ago
ulisscupple 3 years ago
how about Youtube !
o*m*i*o*l*o goes on other's sites and calls people
w*h*o*r*e
when a video is made showing what O. does
o. complains to Youtube admin
and cries until the video is pulled
NOW youtube has blocked any comments
that have the word o*m*i*o*l*o and w*h*o*r*e
in them. LMAO! Its ust like prop 8 Mormon can dish it out but they can not take it!
ulisscupple 3 years ago
anyone know why they did not put the statue up there in the first place?
rd1999 3 years ago
I understand the sun reflection could have distracted pilots flying over the temple (Gatwick flight path) so permission was not granted. Unless anyone knows otherwise.
Kilapi58 3 years ago
As I understand it, it was something in the original design. If you have access to pictures of the Temple before it's refurb in the early nineties you will see the spire was different. Perhaps with a change in technology 50 years after its construction, the refurbishment in 1992 and what appears to be a trend to add the Angel Moroni rather than leave him out (note other temples left out, such as Hawaii, Frankfurt, Bern...) they changed their minds - though this is just personal conjecture.
benwilesuk 3 years ago
I too heard the "don't distract the pilot on landing" story as Kilapi58 but that was as an explanation for why the spire was so dull and not illuminated. Not sure what the reason was for no angel the first time round.
DarqueStar 3 years ago
Yes. If they just built the tower round the statue or carefully placed it up there using a small device on the scaffolding that would be boring. But with an eye to public relations they have to put on a dramatic show. Never mind the ammount of fuel wasted putting the angel up there.
hernhillrebel 3 years ago
Waste of fuel?? Why are people keen to tell other people how to spend their money but are never to keen to listen to the same advise. Freedom of choice my friends but I guess you can find fault in anything if you look hard. enough.
gateway1965 3 years ago
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Thanks for posting this. I had no idea this event was taking place and it just makes me so grateful that with millions of £££s in unspent Humanitarian Aid and Fast Offering sat in the Church's HSBC account, we somehow managed to find the money to put a statue on top of the London (or is that Lingfield?) Temple.
I don't know what 'significance' this holds for philrawlinson1948 or in what way Moroni (or Nephi) is the LDS 'Star of David' but i doubt it will make any impact on the nation.
DarqueStar 3 years ago
The church doesn't use HSBC, its with JPMorgan Chase, and how do you know how much money it has?
bramsinprince 3 years ago
Perhaps where you are it does, but here in the UK (where the new angel Moroni resides) the church banks with HSBC. And i know how much money the church has because as a registered charity it is obliged to submit annual financial reports to the Charities Commission.
Check it out online, the Church has 2 main registration numbers, 242451 and 274605.
Happy reading.
DarqueStar 3 years ago
Perhaps to clarify - you're both right. Missionaries all over the world are funded through one sole bank, JP Morgan Chase. However, the Church uses national banks (as opposed to international banks) for each country it is in. For example when I was in France, the Church banked with LCL (Le Credit Lyonnais).
benwilesuk 3 years ago
Many thanks for clarifying that.
DarqueStar 3 years ago
This is a significant moment for all Latterday Saints in Britain. Suitably just before the celebration of the birth of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. What a great day, and what a great life we have, with the knowledge that we are truly and eternally grateful to all the prophets, past, present and future, but that we only have one God, the Eternal Father, and that our Saviour and Redeemer, Jesus Christ, atoned for us, died for us, and He still intercedes for us.
philrawlinson1948 3 years ago 3
this is the Mormon equivalent to the star of David. The angel blows his trumpet to represent the second coming of my Savior Jesus who is the Christ .
omiolo1 3 years ago
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omiolo1/Gidgiddoni why don't you come out of the Shadows and make a video yourself, you have so much to say. Are you hideously malformed or something?
rd1999 3 years ago
"Are you hideously malformed or something"
just extremely UGLY!
omiolo1 3 years ago
"UGLY!"
I can not believe it
rd1999 3 years ago