Well let's be realistic. Among JDM n.a 4 bangers, the Honda's Vtec and Nissan's Neo-VVL are the best. Good thing about the honda's is it is mass produced world wide since this (vtec) is their specialty. Nissan on the other hand maybe powerful out of the factory, but it is rare. Again they did not focus on it (Neo-VVL) that much since we all know Nissan specializes on making engines for turbo application. :)
im sorry but a r32 gtr or any gtr would destroy any civic especially a 160hp 1.6 a r32 gtr with the boost restricor removed is 350hp and it can put all its power to the road no problem
Its a SR16VE N1 200BHP engine the most power full 1.6L na engine n the world thats n the Pulsar & the Type R aint a 2.0L it is also 1.6L both CARS jdm spec.
@jugbugz Can the nsx beat the gtr, i didn't think so and nissan make way better cars like the 180sx, silvia, gtir, R32GTR, R33 GTR, R34 GTR, name one good honda, integra and especially the civic and the prelude are girl cars. and the nsx doesnt have a chance against the GTR. and btw a SR20VE can do 9 seconds with the right parts and tuning withought a turbo.
The NSX-R was Japans #1 sports car until the R35GTR. Meaning it pawned the R34 GTR and stayed on top since 1989. You obviously don't know anything about engines and cars and turned your arguement into a honda vs nissan fan boy talk.
SR20VE do 9secs N/A? Talking shit out your ass there.
The problem with nissan N/A 4cyl motors is that its unreliable, tranny is shit, FF chassis is shit, its got nothing on a honda. The Tuning world knows this, even nissan boys know this.
You should stop talking already. You obviously turned your talk into a nissan vs honda fan boy arguement when technically honda makes better N/A 4cyls. Your so blind you dont even know whats good. Don't talk shit about SR20VE doing 9 secs NA. Theres so many 10sec N/A hondas running around, K-series is King, nough said.
Now why would you say a silvia looks better than a civic hatch? Thats pure individual opinion.
No point debating with you. You sir, are an idiot!
@jugbugz well im going to agree with you on the part were you said "honda" makes the best n/a 4cyls but only because of the s2000 and integra type r's not so much the civic's.. yes civic are probly the best in 1.6 ltr n/a cars but really when you think about it they have not got much to compete with.. nissans SR16VE engine acually held the highest specific output ever for a n/a production car until Honda F20C engine S2000 came out...
The SR16VE made more hp per liter because it was a special limited edition. Stock SR16 vs B16B, nissan had no chance. If youve ever owned a SR16VE, you'd know that the reliablilty is shit where as the B16B will last forever.
If you want to compare limited editions, Spoon's B16B as seen in this video makes same output with 1.6 yet walks away from the nissan. Reliabilty fuked the aftermarket support for NA nissan engines. Unlike Hondas.
@jugbugz hi man i rekcon that stock AE111 BZR with 4age blacktop 20 valve is better than b16b cos the 4age engine, although it has vvt, it does not have valve lift like vtec, but still it can be quite strong against vtecs!!!!
@signeduplate na dude sorry to say it wont ive had a b18c not even a type r and i shat on alot of cars bmws not the old1s sr20det pulsar and ive killed 4age not black top tho but my friends got 20valve black top and my b18c wud shit all over it and my eg wudnt b as fast as a type r civic 4age is good but b seriers engine are better i no from driving them
@jugbugz lol you dont get it either. Your comparing a type r to a sr16ve why dont u compare it to a b16a2? stock to stock nissan rapes b16's sr20ve on the other hand shits all over b series motors. I have owned a sr20ve and ive beaten RSX-S (k20) hatches with ls, gsr, type r and i didnt lose, my car was stock no cams or anything just i/h/e its not just about the motors they are both reliable your full of shit, i own a honda now but i know not to get next to sr20ve or sr16ve.
I must give you credit for having lots of experience on a playstation and xbox, well done kid!
I wonder why there aint any nissans 4 cyls N/A motors running 9.18 sec 1/4 miles. Or any sr16ve putting out 200whp N/A like a mild b16 can, hmm what about 300whp b20 back in the early 2000s? How about all those so many K24s rampaging on the streets with 300whp N/A. Or those extreme K26 N/A motor drag cars putting out almost 400whp and running low 9s?
man i guess your sr20ve must be hell fast!!! You must have heaps of mods under that hood there buddy.
My friend has a stock K20a type R engine in an EK and does 12.8sec 1/4 mile. But you saying your car shits all over an RSX-S? Its too bad the States only ever received 1000 ITRs. I dont blame you for not having the experience. But then again theres lots of wild hondas in the States...
@jugbugz well im going to agree with you on the part were you said "honda" makes the best n/a 4cyls but only because of the s2000 and integra type r's not so much the civic's.. yes civic are probly the best in 1.6 ltr n/a cars but really when you think about it they have not got much to compete with.. nissans SR16VE engine acually held the highest specific output ever for a n/a production car until Honda F20C engine S2000 came out...
Even if someone owns a GTR, they would still find the civic an incredible car. Ofcourse on the street, turbo cars will walk a honda, but on the track, its a different story.
GTRs are easy to drive, accelerate, brake, turn, accelerate and the electronics take care of everything. Nice speed thrill. But hondas give you a different experience that the GTR cant. Thats why they are popular and a good drivers car.
Today, honda engines are making over 150hp per liter reliably. Raw Power!
@jugbugz and i know nissans n/a cars lacked in some ereas like bad tannys and chassis probly because nissan was more focust on there turbo cars rather than n/a cars for obvious reasons, which gave honda the edge in n/a cars and left nissans n/a cars with little aftermaket surport.. but at the end of the day if you got a civic put a shit load of money into it and went out and got a used stock gtr the nissan would blow the wheels off the honda any day ;-) and still have cash left over for tuning
A civic doesnt need a lot of money to go fast. For example, on our local track, a R35 GTR is only less than 1 sec faster than 3 of my friends mild EG civics running a 1.6 B16a with type R cams. Meaning, a stock R32, R33 and R34 would get blown away by a mild civic on a track.
In terms of value, hondas are damn gd for the money and yet they have MAJOR credits being NATURALLY ASPIRATED. The Honda way.
@jugbugz dude, you are crazy, the new nissan GTR blows the doors off a Porsche 911 Turbo and you are comparing it to a EG.... I own a EG with it´s tricks inside, but speaking or comparing a huge state of the art performance car, to a little $2000 dollar car... that´s like comparing a VW 1976 VW bug to a Veyron... totally diffente things. My EG is very quick, but I will never say it´s better, faster o cooler than a GTR... That´s just ricer mentality...comparing a compact cheap car to a GTR....
That Nissan engine was a very special engine with a very small number built.
BerryA86 2 weeks ago
Pulsar was smashing it round there. the guy was piss balling around, just to let the civic stay close.
TheJonjoe12 2 months ago
Waiting on mine as well! v v
kollagreenz 4 months ago
"Why, why so fast" haha
wating to my sr20ve to be fitted in mine right now ^_^
baaadmofo 4 months ago
テンロク王者よ？
kenjiabaredasu 5 months ago
Well let's be realistic. Among JDM n.a 4 bangers, the Honda's Vtec and Nissan's Neo-VVL are the best. Good thing about the honda's is it is mass produced world wide since this (vtec) is their specialty. Nissan on the other hand maybe powerful out of the factory, but it is rare. Again they did not focus on it (Neo-VVL) that much since we all know Nissan specializes on making engines for turbo application. :)
spidey0123 8 months ago
levin is better from vtec in supersixteen class...;;)
karipapize 9 months ago
vtec is d best end off fuck pulsar
TheGleeson1987 9 months ago
@TheGleeson1987 lol pulsar weighs more fuck vtec Neo VVL Rapes vtec
marth21 8 months ago
@marth21 sure it does buddy dats why i had both from stock and vtec always won dat yoke is tuned and civic stock fuck yer gay pulsar
TheGleeson1987 8 months ago
@TheGleeson1987 VTEC is gay
nuke00 4 months ago
@nuke00 ur gay
bigdan8166 3 months ago
B16B RULES.
09204418448 10 months ago
pure sex that pulsar is sweet had a n1 and wasnt that fast haha my bluetop was faster lol
creamytheoriginal 1 year ago
im sorry but a r32 gtr or any gtr would destroy any civic especially a 160hp 1.6 a r32 gtr with the boost restricor removed is 350hp and it can put all its power to the road no problem
t231kvu 1 year ago
@REPOMAN24722
Shut up already.. your using personal taste as opposed to fact to make a point
if your going to talk shit, talk it with your mates, not here
gav94eg6 1 year ago
VZR N1 is worked up limited edition. The Spoon worked up EK9 was a good comparison. Nissan fan boys just have to swallow it this time.
jbzEK9 1 year ago
that almera aint a turbo isit? i think its a 2.0l gti same as the type r, right?
MOODYSCOOBY 1 year ago
@MOODYSCOOBY
Its a SR16VE N1 200BHP engine the most power full 1.6L na engine n the world thats n the Pulsar & the Type R aint a 2.0L it is also 1.6L both CARS jdm spec.
jackorx7 1 year ago
@jackorx7 The civic in video 1 is 1.6L. it's a factory CTR
but in video 2, its a Spoon CTR, which means its been stroked to 1.8L.
sdfE36 1 year ago
@sdfE36
Yes it is a 1.8 n video 2 but we're not talking abou video 2 now r we?
jackorx7 1 year ago
@jackorx7 In video 2, its 1.6 200ps + cross gear. Matched specs as N1.
In the very last conversation in video 2, they talk about how with the price you can get a SPOON 1.8L which would smoke the N1.
jbzEK9 1 year ago
@sdfE36
wrong noob. its 1.6 worked up spoon engine. Just like the Pulsar is worked up.
jugbugz 1 year ago
@sdfE36
No, the Yellow CTR is 1.6 worked to 200ps with cross gear, meaning matched specs as N1.
jbzEK9 1 year ago
ROVER POWER!!!!!!
MOODYSCOOBY 1 year ago
ek9 was better balanced car for overall use n1 race ek9 is ideal more durability that is why ek9s was the winning cars for several years
in n1 series Japan
now it is fd2 turn.
ABUNAI888 2 years ago
Honda has no chance against Nissan, NISSAN FTW
REPOMAN24722 2 years ago
@REPOMAN24722
And thats why theres so many N/A 300whp hondas smoking SR20s
jugbugz 1 year ago
@jugbugz But thats why theres so many N/A SR20VE's smoking 400hp hondas
REPOMAN24722 1 year ago
@REPOMAN24722 And thats why none of them can run 9 sec 1/4 mile N/A like hondas.>_>
jugbugz 1 year ago
@jugbugz Can the nsx beat the gtr, i didn't think so and nissan make way better cars like the 180sx, silvia, gtir, R32GTR, R33 GTR, R34 GTR, name one good honda, integra and especially the civic and the prelude are girl cars. and the nsx doesnt have a chance against the GTR. and btw a SR20VE can do 9 seconds with the right parts and tuning withought a turbo.
REPOMAN24722 1 year ago
@REPOMAN24722
The NSX-R was Japans #1 sports car until the R35GTR. Meaning it pawned the R34 GTR and stayed on top since 1989. You obviously don't know anything about engines and cars and turned your arguement into a honda vs nissan fan boy talk.
SR20VE do 9secs N/A? Talking shit out your ass there.
The problem with nissan N/A 4cyl motors is that its unreliable, tranny is shit, FF chassis is shit, its got nothing on a honda. The Tuning world knows this, even nissan boys know this.
jbzEK9 1 year ago
@REPOMAN24722
You should stop talking already. You obviously turned your talk into a nissan vs honda fan boy arguement when technically honda makes better N/A 4cyls. Your so blind you dont even know whats good. Don't talk shit about SR20VE doing 9 secs NA. Theres so many 10sec N/A hondas running around, K-series is King, nough said.
Now why would you say a silvia looks better than a civic hatch? Thats pure individual opinion.
No point debating with you. You sir, are an idiot!
jugbugz 1 year ago
@jugbugz well im going to agree with you on the part were you said "honda" makes the best n/a 4cyls but only because of the s2000 and integra type r's not so much the civic's.. yes civic are probly the best in 1.6 ltr n/a cars but really when you think about it they have not got much to compete with.. nissans SR16VE engine acually held the highest specific output ever for a n/a production car until Honda F20C engine S2000 came out...
darknicho 1 year ago
@darknicho
I don't think you get the point.
The SR16VE made more hp per liter because it was a special limited edition. Stock SR16 vs B16B, nissan had no chance. If youve ever owned a SR16VE, you'd know that the reliablilty is shit where as the B16B will last forever.
If you want to compare limited editions, Spoon's B16B as seen in this video makes same output with 1.6 yet walks away from the nissan. Reliabilty fuked the aftermarket support for NA nissan engines. Unlike Hondas.
jugbugz 1 year ago
@jugbugz hi man i rekcon that stock AE111 BZR with 4age blacktop 20 valve is better than b16b cos the 4age engine, although it has vvt, it does not have valve lift like vtec, but still it can be quite strong against vtecs!!!!
signeduplate 1 year ago
@signeduplate na dude sorry to say it wont ive had a b18c not even a type r and i shat on alot of cars bmws not the old1s sr20det pulsar and ive killed 4age not black top tho but my friends got 20valve black top and my b18c wud shit all over it and my eg wudnt b as fast as a type r civic 4age is good but b seriers engine are better i no from driving them
gokuman63 11 months ago
@jugbugz lol you dont get it either. Your comparing a type r to a sr16ve why dont u compare it to a b16a2? stock to stock nissan rapes b16's sr20ve on the other hand shits all over b series motors. I have owned a sr20ve and ive beaten RSX-S (k20) hatches with ls, gsr, type r and i didnt lose, my car was stock no cams or anything just i/h/e its not just about the motors they are both reliable your full of shit, i own a honda now but i know not to get next to sr20ve or sr16ve.
marth21 8 months ago
@marth21
I must give you credit for having lots of experience on a playstation and xbox, well done kid!
I wonder why there aint any nissans 4 cyls N/A motors running 9.18 sec 1/4 miles. Or any sr16ve putting out 200whp N/A like a mild b16 can, hmm what about 300whp b20 back in the early 2000s? How about all those so many K24s rampaging on the streets with 300whp N/A. Or those extreme K26 N/A motor drag cars putting out almost 400whp and running low 9s?
Nissan 4cyls break down, its sad...
jugbugz 8 months ago
@jugbugz
Nissan SR engined BTCC were 325bhp N/A with limiters and revs limited to 8k. That was without any variable valve timing and lift nonsense too.
Brickhazard 5 months ago
@marth21
man i guess your sr20ve must be hell fast!!! You must have heaps of mods under that hood there buddy.
My friend has a stock K20a type R engine in an EK and does 12.8sec 1/4 mile. But you saying your car shits all over an RSX-S? Its too bad the States only ever received 1000 ITRs. I dont blame you for not having the experience. But then again theres lots of wild hondas in the States...
jugbugz 8 months ago
@jugbugz well im going to agree with you on the part were you said "honda" makes the best n/a 4cyls but only because of the s2000 and integra type r's not so much the civic's.. yes civic are probly the best in 1.6 ltr n/a cars but really when you think about it they have not got much to compete with.. nissans SR16VE engine acually held the highest specific output ever for a n/a production car until Honda F20C engine S2000 came out...
darknicho 1 year ago
@darknicho
Even if someone owns a GTR, they would still find the civic an incredible car. Ofcourse on the street, turbo cars will walk a honda, but on the track, its a different story.
GTRs are easy to drive, accelerate, brake, turn, accelerate and the electronics take care of everything. Nice speed thrill. But hondas give you a different experience that the GTR cant. Thats why they are popular and a good drivers car.
Today, honda engines are making over 150hp per liter reliably. Raw Power!
jugbugz 1 year ago
@jugbugz and i know nissans n/a cars lacked in some ereas like bad tannys and chassis probly because nissan was more focust on there turbo cars rather than n/a cars for obvious reasons, which gave honda the edge in n/a cars and left nissans n/a cars with little aftermaket surport.. but at the end of the day if you got a civic put a shit load of money into it and went out and got a used stock gtr the nissan would blow the wheels off the honda any day ;-) and still have cash left over for tuning
darknicho 1 year ago
@darknicho
That my friend is a very baised comment.
A civic doesnt need a lot of money to go fast. For example, on our local track, a R35 GTR is only less than 1 sec faster than 3 of my friends mild EG civics running a 1.6 B16a with type R cams. Meaning, a stock R32, R33 and R34 would get blown away by a mild civic on a track.
In terms of value, hondas are damn gd for the money and yet they have MAJOR credits being NATURALLY ASPIRATED. The Honda way.
jugbugz 1 year ago
@jugbugz dude, you are crazy, the new nissan GTR blows the doors off a Porsche 911 Turbo and you are comparing it to a EG.... I own a EG with it´s tricks inside, but speaking or comparing a huge state of the art performance car, to a little $2000 dollar car... that´s like comparing a VW 1976 VW bug to a Veyron... totally diffente things. My EG is very quick, but I will never say it´s better, faster o cooler than a GTR... That´s just ricer mentality...comparing a compact cheap car to a GTR....
Guilcr 1 year ago
Nissan power
REPOMAN24722 2 years ago 2
NISSAN REALLY POWER!!!
sacodetrola 2 years ago 2
great cars!
Mikica87Honda 2 years ago
Das Ding fetzt
NissanDD 2 years ago
NISSAN POWER
0hourth 2 years ago 2
nissan power
brotherabid 2 years ago