Say what you will, but it's no coincidence that the Hayes Code ushered in Hollywood's golden age. U.S. cinema slipped from its pinnacle when it abandoned the code and has never returned. See Dr. Ted Baehr's comments for more insight into this topic.
and the code inforced that movies had to end a way that showed ppl got punished after doing bad stuff even if thats not what was meant to happen in the story.
HAYS had no respect for arts. He was a hypocrite and seems to me as a fanatic! The same wood like oSama ... Thank the internet we can now use words like fuck and shit! Fuck the shit churches ! Hahaha!
The Hays Code is the prmary reason many films, especally Science Fiction, Fantasy nad Horror were butchered: examples: Godzilla (the scenes that made Godzilla's rampage all the more powerful had to be dropped) King Kong (numerous scenes were cut or shortened) Frankenstien 1931 (the line Now I know what it feels like to be god wasn't restored until 1999, and the scene where the Monster accidentally drowns the little girl was altered to make it seem the monster did it on purprose)
Part of learning history is to find out stuff about your particular race, religon or nationallity you don't want to hear about, but if you censor the bad parts of your history well let's just say history has a nasty way of repeating itself when censorship of history gets out of control
The Hayes Code was the biggest B*&%$T ever done to the 7th art, thanks to that stupid code many forms and expressions went vaguely and uncomprehended for the movies because of that imbecil who imposed that code all because in the name of "Morality" yeah right morality my a&*&*&
The Hays code was nothing more than an assault on a form of art. Films that showed homosexual relationnshiops, blood, sex and so on only portrayed aspects of real life. Censoring that only showed how squemish people were.
@JonathanTheAlchemist Hell yeah! People are in dire need of knowing the vast importance of Fortitude being one of the Four Cardinal Virtues that we humbly abide by!
Obviously it does when one looks at the vulgar filth that passes for entertainment today. Freedom without limits (in a civilized, man-made society) is no freedom at all. Everything has its limits.
With that said, however, it is unfortunate that most organizations with large numbers are usually used by those with motives and agendas that don't always create a better society. The Hays Commission included.
@opelske Well, after learning about this in a Mass Communications course I took in the Fall 2009 semester at my college, I'm starting to think that tolerating and allowing various types of content in film and other forms of media had to go through a so-called "evolutionary process" possibly due to psychological advancements in American societies over time in order to become as permissive as it is today.
Well, the alternative would have been government intervention in the filmmaking process.
Although the filmmakers could use the 1st Amendment as a defense, it was still possible that attempts to regulate film expression would be pushed for and attempted by the government.
In light of this possibility, the Hays code was established and enforced by the MPPDA (the MPAA in its early years) as a way for the film business to regulate itself to keep the government out.
Although this clip asserts that it was the church that would push for censorship, they would do so through influencing government, including grassroots efforts by a religious constituency.
As for the possibility of censorship despite the 1st Amendment, it must be noted that a religious group, the Women's Christian Temperance Union, did manage to get the government to enact prohibition.
If alcohol could be banned on moral grounds, so could films considered amoral by religious leaders.
@xaviqaz It's true. The thing I love about films made during this period is looking for subtle signs of rebellion. One of my favorite instances of this is Cary Grant using the word "gay" (to mean "homosexual) in 'Bringing Up Baby'.
Say what you will, but it's no coincidence that the Hayes Code ushered in Hollywood's golden age. U.S. cinema slipped from its pinnacle when it abandoned the code and has never returned. See Dr. Ted Baehr's comments for more insight into this topic.
blacsouljah 2 months ago
i wanted him to never get the chance to get the job in the first place or right the code. ppl storming into his home to torture him and his family.
BRm2008 4 months ago
A lesser version of the Hays Code still exists today. They call it the MPAA Rating Board.
aquapendulum 5 months ago
and the code inforced that movies had to end a way that showed ppl got punished after doing bad stuff even if thats not what was meant to happen in the story.
BRm2008 6 months ago
the guy should have been killed right when he was offered the job.,
BRm2008 6 months ago
@BRm2008 Ah...the joys youthful rebellion!
SonicFamilyGal 4 months ago
HAYS had no respect for arts. He was a hypocrite and seems to me as a fanatic! The same wood like oSama ... Thank the internet we can now use words like fuck and shit! Fuck the shit churches ! Hahaha!
SpaceCowboy641 8 months ago
@SpaceCowboy641 Thank goodness for being born in much later years when tolerance levels were cranked up!
SonicFamilyGal 6 months ago
HAYS was an inquisitor!
How was this possible?
The US constitution provides the right of free speech. In books and newspapers this is no question.
But why this didn't (and even don't) work on movies and TV ? Until now I don't understand this fact...
SpaceCowboy641 8 months ago
@SpaceCowboy641 Viva la resistance!
SonicFamilyGal 6 months ago
@SonicFamilyGal Oui! Revolutiom!
SpaceCowboy641 4 months ago
The Hays Code is the prmary reason many films, especally Science Fiction, Fantasy nad Horror were butchered: examples: Godzilla (the scenes that made Godzilla's rampage all the more powerful had to be dropped) King Kong (numerous scenes were cut or shortened) Frankenstien 1931 (the line Now I know what it feels like to be god wasn't restored until 1999, and the scene where the Monster accidentally drowns the little girl was altered to make it seem the monster did it on purprose)
snakes3425 8 months ago
Part of learning history is to find out stuff about your particular race, religon or nationallity you don't want to hear about, but if you censor the bad parts of your history well let's just say history has a nasty way of repeating itself when censorship of history gets out of control
snakes3425 9 months ago
@snakes3425 I agree wholeheartedly. We all know it's better to be as brave as lions, especially in terms of content tolerance!
SonicFamilyGal 8 months ago
The Hayes Code was the biggest B*&%$T ever done to the 7th art, thanks to that stupid code many forms and expressions went vaguely and uncomprehended for the movies because of that imbecil who imposed that code all because in the name of "Morality" yeah right morality my a&*&*&
VanLat7 1 year ago
Haha, Hays is probably rolling in his plastic-covered, Pine Sol- scented grave.
jazzandmint 1 year ago
He says with respect for every race. Well it was against miscegenation. And I'm a Eurasian male. So it doesn't have respect for every race.
unholyedsoul 1 year ago
@unholyedsoul Not to mention the horrible portrayals of blacks and Asians...by white people.
tomatoherb 1 year ago
The Hays code was nothing more than an assault on a form of art. Films that showed homosexual relationnshiops, blood, sex and so on only portrayed aspects of real life. Censoring that only showed how squemish people were.
JonathanTheAlchemist 1 year ago
@JonathanTheAlchemist Hell yeah! People are in dire need of knowing the vast importance of Fortitude being one of the Four Cardinal Virtues that we humbly abide by!
SonicFamilyGal 8 months ago
that hays fellow looks like as much fun as a root canal
laurensadriaanse 2 years ago 2
civilized man needs codes. lol
Rico8458 2 years ago
Obviously it does when one looks at the vulgar filth that passes for entertainment today. Freedom without limits (in a civilized, man-made society) is no freedom at all. Everything has its limits.
With that said, however, it is unfortunate that most organizations with large numbers are usually used by those with motives and agendas that don't always create a better society. The Hays Commission included.
opelske 2 years ago
@opelske Well, after learning about this in a Mass Communications course I took in the Fall 2009 semester at my college, I'm starting to think that tolerating and allowing various types of content in film and other forms of media had to go through a so-called "evolutionary process" possibly due to psychological advancements in American societies over time in order to become as permissive as it is today.
SonicFamilyGal 4 months ago
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giantgorillastudios 3 years ago
this set western civilization back decades
Jimmybangkok 3 years ago 10
Agreed 110%. Censorship is an injustice.
giantgorillastudios 3 years ago 7
Well, the alternative would have been government intervention in the filmmaking process.
Although the filmmakers could use the 1st Amendment as a defense, it was still possible that attempts to regulate film expression would be pushed for and attempted by the government.
In light of this possibility, the Hays code was established and enforced by the MPPDA (the MPAA in its early years) as a way for the film business to regulate itself to keep the government out.
They didn't have much choice.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
Although this clip asserts that it was the church that would push for censorship, they would do so through influencing government, including grassroots efforts by a religious constituency.
As for the possibility of censorship despite the 1st Amendment, it must be noted that a religious group, the Women's Christian Temperance Union, did manage to get the government to enact prohibition.
If alcohol could be banned on moral grounds, so could films considered amoral by religious leaders.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
As for your point, I also agree 110% and for the same reason.
Censorship, IMO, disrespects an individual's potential maturity and intelligence.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
@Watcher3223 Thank goodness for staying in school and being able to graduate with a high school diploma to prove it!
SonicFamilyGal 8 months ago
@SonicFamilyGal
Actually, college graduate. But, thanks.
Watcher3223 8 months ago
@Jimmybangkok Ironically the best cinema ever was donde under the Hays Code
xaviqaz 1 year ago 3
@xaviqaz It's true. The thing I love about films made during this period is looking for subtle signs of rebellion. One of my favorite instances of this is Cary Grant using the word "gay" (to mean "homosexual) in 'Bringing Up Baby'.
tomatoherb 1 year ago