The Su-37 demonstrator was more impressive. You should have kept the canards. There's no point in keeping semi-stealth leading edges when the aircraft is not a stealth design and is larger than a Brontosaurus.
@DINDRAGON the Su-35S has RCS less than 1m^2 head on. compare that to the canard equipped Su-37/30's RCS around 20m^2.
that is HUGE difference.
plus, the new engine and TVC makes the aircraft very maneuverable, it doesn't need canards anymore. according to Sukhoi, canards can still be installed for super-epic-Chuck Norris-mega-maneuverability if customers want them. but max speed will be limited to M1.9-M2.0 due to drag.
@itom95 Pardon my ignorance but how does an engine with significantly greater thrust on an almost identical aerodynamic design (Su-35BM with canards vs Su-37) provide lower maximum speed? Is the Al-41F-1 engine less efficient at high speeds than the the older Al-31F installments? [note that the original Su-27 had a maximum speed of ,2500km/h while according to wiki the Su-35S(BM) has a maximum of 2390km/h and if I recall correctly from a Jane's book the original Su-35 was at 2400km/h]
@DINDRAGON no, it still can do Mach 2.35+ but the engine will drink more fuel due to excessive drag = less range. same thing for other canard-equipped jets.
canards are extremely useful in subsonic speeds (like in airshows/dogfights), but they are extremely inefficient and kinda useless in speeds around M2.0. they also have poor stealth characteristics.
that's why Sukhoi omits the canards, and put a better 3DTVC system to make it just as maneuverable as the canard-equipped 35/37.
@itom95 Understandable, but for certain air-forces like my country's, dogfighting and point defense is more important than combat range due to "simulated interceptions" (which is a competition of skill between Turkish and Greek pilots for prestige) that occure mostly within Greek airspace and rather near to our airbases. For such short ranges between take off and engagement a semi-stealth design would practically be useless for the one scrambling.
@DINDRAGON very true. same thing for my country's AF. Malaysia is not a large country, and it's closely surrounded by many countries. Mach 1+ for a minute, you'll reach Singapore lol.
that's why they bought Su-30MKM w/ integrated European avionics (it has Rafale's HUD/sensor suite, Topsight HMD+MBDA MICA, Gripen's IFF/comm systems and others) instead of the 'stealthy' Block 3 Super Hornet or F-15SE.
cheaper than most semi-stealth fighters, but very deadly in close dogfights.
@DINDRAGON first of all....dont trust wiki ...second AL 31 and 41 have diferent work or specs, plus remember MACH speed its diferent at high altitude and near sea level
@DINDRAGON ...we still have Su30MKI ;) 04 and 06 an air shows and Su37 fly for russian knights but not on show...remember there are someone of them still alive ;)
I was there that very day and saw this flight. That was something fantastic. Video cannot give even 50% of what you see being there, on the field. The figure the pilot started at 1.06 was unforgettable. Camera captures him like he is still flying up, but from the feild it was clear that he stays at the same hight. Amazing. I couldn't beleive my eyes. These guys really do their job. That was excellent. Planning to go there again and again.
Slav, your first point is right, it's not necessary for bombing lower tech countries of course it wasn't designed for that, it was designed as a rule the sky air superiority fighter and at that job my friend it has no equals. That's why Russia is trying to rush the PAK-FA to production. Maybe when the PAK-FA is actually produced and mission capable it will be a match......but not yet.
@Jedi391 F-22 is moe expensive then useful,for bombing low defence countrys you dont need such expensive jet,for fight with high defence countrys F-22 will not help at all
Kurna, wy to macie samoloty. Jak będą pokazy w Radomiu za dwa lata, przyślijcie nam jednego byśmy mogli nacieszyć nim nasze oczy. Albo chociaż Su-34, nawet na statyce. A teraz po angielskiemu: Please, let us see this aircraft on next Radom Air Show edition. If not Su-35, please, show us Su-34, even on static display. May some VVS decident read my comment.
Sleek jet - even though it is huge. I absolutely love it ;)
Some of these maneouvers are very nice, but in many ways they are something you'd only do if you had no other options. If a cobra-move followed by an IR-shot fails to take down the enemy, you are a sitting duck. Speed is life, you know ;)
What the cobra DOE'S show, is a remarkable engine and aerodynamic performance . Allthough I don't quite understand they havent yet reduced the smokiness of these engines.
@jakobole .....I`ve seen the same smoke on f22...besides it i dont know much more about inyection parametres this engies uses....but if su35 autonomy its 4000+km engines shouldnt be that bad
В БВБ от ракет с ИК-наведением никакие пируэты и половецкие пляски на пятой точке всё равно не спасут. Сверхманёвренность, в основном, нужна для уменьшения аварийности полётов. Особенно - для молодых пилотов. В этом суть
@amalekoff у них вероятность поражения - 0.6-0.7. какой-нибудь кульбит да и спасет. ракета-то по прямой фигачит с незначительной корректировкой курса. резко вниз/вбок/вправо/влево/да хоть куда - и она мимо ушла...
@Aborigen181 Подобные манёвры позволяют нейтрализовать угрозу выпущенных по самолёту ракет с радарным наведением. Долго объяснять. Изучи. Потом не всякий перехват будет успешным на дальних дистанциях, а в ближнем бою такие возможности бесценны.
I want to see an F-22 and PAK FA in formation and do an airshow once.
F22raptor46 2 days ago
Its call 180
TheKingtiger501 1 month ago
The Su-37 demonstrator was more impressive. You should have kept the canards. There's no point in keeping semi-stealth leading edges when the aircraft is not a stealth design and is larger than a Brontosaurus.
DINDRAGON 1 month ago
@DINDRAGON the Su-35S has RCS less than 1m^2 head on. compare that to the canard equipped Su-37/30's RCS around 20m^2.
that is HUGE difference.
plus, the new engine and TVC makes the aircraft very maneuverable, it doesn't need canards anymore. according to Sukhoi, canards can still be installed for super-epic-Chuck Norris-mega-maneuverability if customers want them. but max speed will be limited to M1.9-M2.0 due to drag.
itom95 1 month ago
@itom95 Pardon my ignorance but how does an engine with significantly greater thrust on an almost identical aerodynamic design (Su-35BM with canards vs Su-37) provide lower maximum speed? Is the Al-41F-1 engine less efficient at high speeds than the the older Al-31F installments? [note that the original Su-27 had a maximum speed of ,2500km/h while according to wiki the Su-35S(BM) has a maximum of 2390km/h and if I recall correctly from a Jane's book the original Su-35 was at 2400km/h]
DINDRAGON 1 month ago
@DINDRAGON no, it still can do Mach 2.35+ but the engine will drink more fuel due to excessive drag = less range. same thing for other canard-equipped jets.
canards are extremely useful in subsonic speeds (like in airshows/dogfights), but they are extremely inefficient and kinda useless in speeds around M2.0. they also have poor stealth characteristics.
that's why Sukhoi omits the canards, and put a better 3DTVC system to make it just as maneuverable as the canard-equipped 35/37.
itom95 1 month ago
@itom95 Understandable, but for certain air-forces like my country's, dogfighting and point defense is more important than combat range due to "simulated interceptions" (which is a competition of skill between Turkish and Greek pilots for prestige) that occure mostly within Greek airspace and rather near to our airbases. For such short ranges between take off and engagement a semi-stealth design would practically be useless for the one scrambling.
DINDRAGON 1 month ago
@DINDRAGON very true. same thing for my country's AF. Malaysia is not a large country, and it's closely surrounded by many countries. Mach 1+ for a minute, you'll reach Singapore lol.
that's why they bought Su-30MKM w/ integrated European avionics (it has Rafale's HUD/sensor suite, Topsight HMD+MBDA MICA, Gripen's IFF/comm systems and others) instead of the 'stealthy' Block 3 Super Hornet or F-15SE.
cheaper than most semi-stealth fighters, but very deadly in close dogfights.
itom95 1 month ago
@DINDRAGON first of all....dont trust wiki ...second AL 31 and 41 have diferent work or specs, plus remember MACH speed its diferent at high altitude and near sea level
mauricioalfredo83 2 weeks ago
@DINDRAGON ...we still have Su30MKI ;) 04 and 06 an air shows and Su37 fly for russian knights but not on show...remember there are someone of them still alive ;)
mauricioalfredo83 2 weeks ago
what the hell was that at 3:45....a Cobra and hight atack angle turn? doese it have a name??? .......followed whit low speed pass
mauricioalfredo83 1 month ago
@mauricioalfredo83 It is called a J-Turn. People started doing this everywhere after the Raptor and early THv Sukhois started to do it.
BAACCOOOOCk 1 month ago
@BAACCOOOOCk THANKS :) ...its obvius SU27 and its variants started it
mauricioalfredo83 2 weeks ago
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laufable98 3 weeks ago
afetr watching this performance, PLEASE dont go and watch f22, rafale or typhoon...it just will be disapointing and boring JAJAJAJAJJAJA
mauricioalfredo83 1 month ago
is this plane impossible to stall?
cardude1992 2 months ago
does this have thrust vectoring?
cardude1992 2 months ago
HOLY SHIT DID YOU SEE THAT MANEUVER AT 2:29 THE PLANE DID A SPLIT PUGAVCHES CORBA THAN TURN ITS NOSE OPPOSIT TOWARDS GROUND THEN LEVEL!
staffsgtamous 3 months ago 5
I was there that very day and saw this flight. That was something fantastic. Video cannot give even 50% of what you see being there, on the field. The figure the pilot started at 1.06 was unforgettable. Camera captures him like he is still flying up, but from the feild it was clear that he stays at the same hight. Amazing. I couldn't beleive my eyes. These guys really do their job. That was excellent. Planning to go there again and again.
TheBigMilkShake 3 months ago 3
Slav, your first point is right, it's not necessary for bombing lower tech countries of course it wasn't designed for that, it was designed as a rule the sky air superiority fighter and at that job my friend it has no equals. That's why Russia is trying to rush the PAK-FA to production. Maybe when the PAK-FA is actually produced and mission capable it will be a match......but not yet.
Jedi391 4 months ago
If you don't count the F-22 it's probably the most impressive fighter out there.
Jedi391 4 months ago
@Jedi391 F-22 is moe expensive then useful,for bombing low defence countrys you dont need such expensive jet,for fight with high defence countrys F-22 will not help at all
SlavaSvarogu 4 months ago
@Jedi391 if you mean SU-35 - it's not fighter,but multifunctional bomber..)))
Rinshikame 4 months ago
@Rinshikame
bomber is su-34 not su-35 omg oO
Russia2010 2 months ago
@Rinshikame you mistake - it is superiority fighter
RUSBERKUT 2 months ago
Aha, it's me again. Those 2 people who dislike it, should me placed right behind the Lyulka Saturn engine while afterburner is enabled. Thank you.
52down 4 months ago
Aha, it's me again. Those 2 people who dislike it, should me placed right behind the Lyulka Saturn engine while afterburner is enabled. Thank you.
52down 4 months ago
Kurna, wy to macie samoloty. Jak będą pokazy w Radomiu za dwa lata, przyślijcie nam jednego byśmy mogli nacieszyć nim nasze oczy. Albo chociaż Su-34, nawet na statyce. A teraz po angielskiemu: Please, let us see this aircraft on next Radom Air Show edition. If not Su-35, please, show us Su-34, even on static display. May some VVS decident read my comment.
52down 4 months ago
Sleek jet - even though it is huge. I absolutely love it ;)
Some of these maneouvers are very nice, but in many ways they are something you'd only do if you had no other options. If a cobra-move followed by an IR-shot fails to take down the enemy, you are a sitting duck. Speed is life, you know ;)
What the cobra DOE'S show, is a remarkable engine and aerodynamic performance . Allthough I don't quite understand they havent yet reduced the smokiness of these engines.
jakobole 5 months ago
@jakobole ...the smoke its produced when you cut or interrupt the normal air flux and U burn more fuel...as on every internal combustion engine
mauricioalfredo83 4 months ago
@mauricioalfredo83 Thanks for your response - but how come that PW and GE engines don't smoke nearly as much?
jakobole 4 months ago
@jakobole .....I`ve seen the same smoke on f22...besides it i dont know much more about inyection parametres this engies uses....but if su35 autonomy its 4000+km engines shouldnt be that bad
mauricioalfredo83 4 months ago
В БВБ от ракет с ИК-наведением никакие пируэты и половецкие пляски на пятой точке всё равно не спасут. Сверхманёвренность, в основном, нужна для уменьшения аварийности полётов. Особенно - для молодых пилотов. В этом суть
amalekoff 5 months ago
@amalekoff у них вероятность поражения - 0.6-0.7. какой-нибудь кульбит да и спасет. ракета-то по прямой фигачит с незначительной корректировкой курса. резко вниз/вбок/вправо/влево/да хоть куда - и она мимо ушла...
zagibonteese 4 months ago
What is that move? A corkscrew super cobra?!
DreadnoughtMetal2006 5 months ago
Фантастичные фигуры, пилотаж высочайшего класса, пилот просто молодец и прекрасный профессионал. Просто восторг.
Об одном только чешу себе репу:
на хрена это надо перехватчику?
Aborigen181 6 months ago
@Aborigen181 воздушный бой никто не отменял
1o050O 5 months ago
@Aborigen181 Подобные манёвры позволяют нейтрализовать угрозу выпущенных по самолёту ракет с радарным наведением. Долго объяснять. Изучи. Потом не всякий перехват будет успешным на дальних дистанциях, а в ближнем бою такие возможности бесценны.
Papa718thTFW 5 months ago
Я начал сомневаться в незыблемости законов физики))
TheMerkator72 6 months ago 10
как хочет , так и летает
1979Safar 6 months ago
i was here!) It was amazing!
egoRchikD 6 months ago 10
相変わらず凄い機動ですね！！
takaiwa0104 6 months ago
@takaiwa0104 hai so desu :)
profan123 6 months ago