116. And (remember) when God will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides God?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.(Al:ma'idah) holy Quran
@marianetemanJ ; I agree with you on most parts. Yes, God exists. Yes, Jesus did walk this planet, and yes, Jesus will walk this earth again. Islam and Christianity are very similar. The only difference is that we believe that Jesus was a prophet who preached 1 God and who didn't die but rather was taken up by God and he will return as a leader who will lead the righteous to victory over the anti Christ
@adrenaline991 Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
Amazing story. Yes, there is an extreme level of noise surrounding Islam. For the outsider, Islam usually is that, madmen shouting Allah Akbar, with machineguns in their hands. And they never can find it in their minds to read the Quran. Because "Islam is crazy people". But if they should do, seeking God, by Gods will, as someone researching religious scriptures, you will find it amazing, you will recognize the people, and it will not be incoherent, like other scriptures. Praised be the one God.
He misses that family intermarried at certain points in the Old Testament. How does he think Cain found a wife? It says, in Genesis 4:17, "Cain lay with his wife ...". There was nobody on earth at that time aside from Adam & his family. Cain's wife was obviously his sister. As for Ruth, reread it, buddy. RUTH & Boaz had a child. OBED. Obed was David's grand father. Guess who's a descendant of David? JESUS CHRIST. There's a reason for EVERY book in the Bible. There's a lot you've missed.
I think honestly debating over what religion is accurate is dumb. I am Muslim; i bear witness there is no god but Allah and Mohamed p.b.u.h was his messenger.
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Allah is not god. He is a false god. Jesus is the only true God. You can only be saved through Him. The whole bible points to Christ as God. Suffering for us.
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The false worship to which they have turned ( christianity and Islam )includes disgusting acts of idolatry .
(Cross, Statues, False Festivals or Praying towards a Black Stones and kissing it or killing eachother) .
Those are spiritistic acts, detestable to God .
As well immoral sexual practices before and after marriages ( Islam is guilty too with temporary marriage called Muta , and polygamy is scriptural allowed.
To please God should not we reject false worship ?
As salaam alaykum. This is one of the most beautiful stories of a conversion to the beautiful deen al-Islam. It's a similar story for those among us who have converted, yet so very different. Alhamdulillah we have been chosen by Allah to become Muslim. Allah is Akbar.
@Islam4Whites you need to get over the way people talk dude. And what the heck is up with your name "islam4whites" islam does not have a colour or race. If you don't agree with that you are in complete disagreement with Allahs message.
@EvelynGB: As salaamalaykum: My online name is to show other white people (particularly Americans) that Islam is for ALL, not just the stereotype of those "dark" masses--they are brainwashed by centuries of Christianity.
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@BigPaPaOG5 ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST BECAUSE THE MESSENGER MUHAMMAD IS A FALSE TEACHER. HE TOOK THE HOLY BIBLE OF JESUS CHRIST AND PLAGIARIZED IT! HE THEN ADDED CRAZY RULES INTO IT ABOUT KILLING INFIDELS, 72 VIRGINS ETC... HORRIBLE AND ANTI CHRIST! MUHAMMAD CALLED CHRIST A GREAT PROPHET & VIRGIN BIRTH! CHRIST 700 YEARS BEFORE HIM SAID THE BIBLE IS SEALED AND CLOSED AND ALL WHO CLAIM TO BE PROPHETS AFTER CHRIST ARE FALSE PROPHETS!! REPENT AND ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR GOD!!
@EvelynGB As to his accent, that's exactly my point too, so many whites see this and think "wow, that sounds really fake, like a phony black or wigger accent" etc. If you look around, you;ll see others have said that of the way he talks. Islam isn't a 3rd world religion or way of thinking, or acting. If you think so, then that's your problem.
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The Bhagavad Gita also talks about God's oneness. Islam is NOT THE ONLY RELIGION THAT CONTAINS TRUTH! Nor is it the best. Instead of smelling the carpet you pray on, wake up and smell the fragrant beauty of a diverse world with many paths to the Supreme Being.
@asswaxer100 A man before you comments about ISLAM, Read Quran. This is not an ego matter, which is best & who is better. This is our life. We have to spend some time for finding the TRUTH. Which you are following is good for you. Ok. But it will take you heaven hereafter. Make sure. Spend some time for finding the truth. If you are not ready to listen, it will misguide you. You can use here nasty words. It will not help you here and hereafter. Think before act.
@sadikeen123 For you guys it is an "ego matter", otherwise you wouldn't have gotten offended by my comment. You talk about your religion like it's the one and only "deen al haq". You say spend time finding truth? I would tell you to do the same, but I know it'll go in one ear and out the other. It's amazing how you people are so willing to give advice and never bother to take your own.
alhamdulillah they convertet to islam, allahu akber!
but what is this? yusha evans going on tours all around the world to tell his story?
what about speaking about what the muslim ummah are going through?!
they are getting slaughtered, and here are way listening and talking about our stories?! We should speak out against the crusaders and the jews,and what they have done! subhanallah.. WAKE UP YA MUSLIMEEN!!
Even if I wanted to point out to my own friend that he or she was not worshiping the right God, and most of them aren't, I don't know if I could do it. It isn't possible for every single person to become a daa'ee or a daa'eyah in order to preach truth with logic and diplomacy. What I would advise is for the Muslims themselves to learn their religion from true sources - the Qur'an and the authentic Sunnah. N those who've been blessed with the powers of logic, debate and reasoning, should do more
I agree about Evan's last message at the end of the video that most of those who find Islam have to 'find' it. But then most non-Muslims are ignorant about Islam and have pre-concieved notions which are incorrect most of the time. Islamophobics work hard to tarnish the image of Islam. Suicide bombers kill their own religion in the name of Islam. Muslims who grow up without knowing or learning Islam turn into poor ambassadors of their religion.
Mashallah! It was truly inspiring and intellectually stimulating to hear the story of having found true guidance from Allah from a Christian perspective.... May Allah bless Yusha Evans for his efforts in sharing the truth with the rest of the world and all those involved in the video and its upload.
@tonylikehotgirl He has trimmed and kept his beard as per sunnah. Why should he trim it further? Anyways it doesnt matter what the length of the beard is. If you want to follow sunnah, then keep your beard like brother Yusha.
allahu akbar.we see ppl like evans,yusuf estes,zakir naik.but we still see dislikes&haters.surely,allah only guides whom he wants.we can only pass the message.the people whose hearts r sealed wont learn though the truth is always here right before their eyes.
@thinkinggudboy Very good point. I forget off the top of my head who, but there was a scholar that said that we have hate due to ignorance and hate due to arrogance. The ones of the latter have their hearts sealed and only Allah can remove that seal, but we can reach out through our dawah efforts to the former group. May Allah guide them all
@thinkinggudboy That is an excellent point my friend. Inshallah we can reach out to all. Also, let us not forget the both Sahih Muslim and Bukhari there is a hadith in which the Prophet (pbuh) said, something to the extent, the people that hate this religion the most become its strongest defenders once they enter into it.
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Absolutely. In Matthew 26:52, Jesus explicitly stated that anyone who survived by fighting others will perish because of that.
"He who lives by the sword will die by the sword."
On no occasion did he sanction fighting. The crusades started because Muslims captured Jerusalem and other Christian and Jewish nations. I understand their cause but fighting in the name of God when he has commanded you not to fight is not exactly smart.
you're saying the crusades stared because Muslims took Jerusalem from Christian..Yes i agree with you there... Basically the Crusades were in a series of religiously sanctioned wars against Muslims, called by the pope and waged by kings and nobles who volunteered to take up the cross with the goal of restoring Christian control of the Holy Land....you just contradicted your previous comments!
A final point I would raise is that the central truth of the original prophets was NOT submission anywhere or that there is a unitary god (for example, both baal & molech were claimed as [names] for god). The central truth is that there is One God and only One True & Living God. It is this God we are commanded to worship. Also, Muhamm. claims that he received his revelations from an angelic being. Can any examples be offered of earlier prophets who received written revelations from angels
-could you pls offer some support or proof from the Hebrew scriptures that the islamic god is the same as the God of the Hebrews and the Christians ? There appear to be many, many differences- the most obvious is that neither the Hebrews nor the Christians call Him allah. Also, Christians claim the revelation of the Godhead. Where is the proof in the Hebrew scriptures that an angel (the same angel) delivered a message to the Hebrew prophets as it is claimed he did to Muhammad. Thanks
thanks for commenting, but I think you miss the point. I have read the Koran & it falls short in my view. The issue is how do we know that it's the same God in the original scriptures as allah in the Koran. Muhammad could not read the original scriptures because he was illiterate. Also, Muhammad claims that he received the Koran from an angel(s). How does one know it was truly an angel from god & that the msg was not corrupted. Also, what proof is there that other prophets got msgs from angels
@shieldsff thanks for showing ur concern in finding the truth....this is all i have to tell you....i cannot explain this to you in a comment...but you can go ask a shelk(a high knolegeble muslim preacher) who speaks good english and ask him all the questions you need answers to...please!!!! do so...i swear to you you will find the truth...just like every 1 who converts to islam. and please forgive my spelling. and i wish u luck on ur journey.
Anyone who sees the comments of ogunitracy can discredit them because they are just derogatory and racist in nature with no basis. Enjoy the video my brothers and sisters
@ogunitracy This looks how your logic works. First of all understand i don,t want to convert you forcing in Islam is prohibited. I am just doing my duty what my Allah said me to do. Listen Allah said clearly Quran is a " STRAIGHT FORWARD BOOK" which means If Allah want to he would have said this clearly.Instead here is what Allah says about sun "CLEARLY" (CONTINUED)
how can you not want to convert me if Islam is true. are you saying my ignorance is a good thing? giving peole the facts is not forcing. yes, the Qu'ran is a straightforward book. Allah said "He found the place where the sun sets - in a pool of muddy water."
answer this question:
Did he find the place where the sun sets? Allah says that he did.
@ogunitracy There is no mistake in Quranic arabic itself. Quranic arabic got different meanings. Thats why u will find same translations with different perspective and u will always find Arabic with them because its the real language of Quran with no mistakes in it.Let me give u some example what i mean from different perspective(Look to my Another comment)
@ogunitracy I don,t mean to. I don,t mean to insult. If it hurts i apologize. Allah needs pure convert means from heart. Not by forcing or these mumbo jumbo propaganda type things that "Islam is spread by swords". We muslims know what real essence of Islam is. And yes. Quran is not a book of "Science" its a book of "Signs". The Quran has got no errors some understand fast some slow its a nature of men.
May Allah guide you to truth and give you the power to think clearly.
@ogunitracy Yes thats i mean. Every language has got same words with different meanings. Only used when is needed. Same with Arabic but Quranic Arabic in itself is power Arabic. Which means simple words of Quran. Make bigger meanings from every angle. Because Quran is The pure word of Allah. So he opened for us many ways to better understand his message.
@ogunitracy "And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen."(Quran 5:116)
@ogunitracy arabic word use here is " مَغْرِبَ" which means in english "West" everyone knows west means setting place of sun.So it means he reached in west where sunsets. The Arabic word "مَغْرِبَ" is used as well as for time. If we say its time of "مَغْرِبَ" then it means its time of sunset. If we say he reached at the time of sunset then problem also solved.
okay, let's go back to the word by word translation at the link i showed you. the word مَغْرِبَ means the setting place. not west. west in arabic is الغرب
'time' does not fit the context because it goes on to say the sun was going down in a black sea or muddy spring.
@ogunitracy And don,t think i feel i answered late becuse your answer feel very hard to me. Its Becuse my dsl disconnected. Wheather u blieve me or not. I am not defenseive or Offensive i know i am true.
@ogunitracy The Quranic verse is same like bible as Isa(PBUH) said: No man come unto my father but by me>
Every prophet at his time was a messenger and same applies to him. So here Muhammad(PBUH) is the way to truth and life no man come unto God except by following Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) every prophet send by Allah for his time only but Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) is for whole humanity.
@ogunitracy How do i know thats a simple Question. Because the basic words that make sentance are always there. Like was,they, did, will,is, this and that etc...There are words words that make meanings. When whole sentance is completed.We look what the best meaning. The sun the moon they are all always there.
the translators looked at all the context that you talk about and decided that the correct translation is 'place'. On what basis do you reject their translation. do you know more than they do?
@ogunitracy Imagine god is saying i sent myself and i am son of men.These verses are said by Jesus(PBUH)
That he is sent from God or whosoever believe in me believe in him.God gave me the power to judge because i am the son of men." Clearly depict he is not the son of God not God instead he is sent by one and only true God. And he is his messenger.
as for Jesus saying "I am God, worship me." After his resurrection, Thomas called him "My Lord and my God." By not rebuking Thomas but commending him, he accepted the title of God. If he is not God, then he was a liar and a false prophet.
@ogunitracy the word is وَجَدَهَا. I give you that before don,t be child. And i said go open any oxford dictionary or whatever u will find what it means
are you saying that allah meant that Zulqarnain. reached west? you cannot reach west. you also cannot find west. west is a relative position. west is a direction and not a place. so you cannot reach west. allah meant the place where the sun sets, literally. and that place does not exist.
@ogunitracy Its in nature of God that God himself say that i am creator go read.And that God is one. Their is no God except one Allah the true creator. And Jesus(PBUH) is his one of the mighty messengers. bible said dont drink alchol dont eat pork. While you people eat and drink. And we muslims are better followers of Jesus(PBUH) that we dont drink alchol and eat pork. Because Allah forbidden them. We excepts all prophet moses,jesus Mohammad(PBUH) and all.
i'm practically laughing at you right now. you cannot defend your religion so you stoop to attacking mine. I say give me the word so i can find its meaning but you won't. Instead you heap up accusations in the hopes that I will turn defensive. we have resolved one christian issue. now we must resolve one Muslim one. my gospel is strong enough to defend itself but yours is not. Your misunderstanding of Christianity is showing. stick to what you know. defend islam.
@ogunitracy Take it its not "as if" OK i agree just for u that not "as if" Quran is still mentioning (he found).
If i say "I found it very difficult to pass my words" does it mean i found difficulty itself with its face and nature and shape and form? or just i describing my point that what i mean?
you're not using a good example. you need to replace only one word. if i say "you found a pen" do i mean that you think you found a pen? no. i mean you actually found a pen. If Allah says "He found the setting place of the sun." Allah does not mean he 'thinks' he found the setting-place of the sun. Allah did not add 'think' Allah said, 'he found'
@ogunitracy 28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. 30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.(John 5)
"Jesus(PBUH) talking about judgement day" That I am here to please only one who sent me"
when Jesus says God, he could mean himself, the father or the Holy Spirit.
But you are ignoring my question. first you say it has two meanings. then you say it has only one meaning. if that is the meaning, why was it translated wrongly?
@ogunitracy No i did,nt reject nor i said i did. Because "Found" in my language has itself got two meanings 1(It appeared to or as if) 2(Discovered). And its not my problem if u don,t understand i am giving clear what i know. Can u give me an example of (3=1). I am not started if i am started u can,t answer my single Question correctly
Now, we have a problem because the Qu'ran is apparently not as easy to understand as Allah claimed. how do we know which of those he means?
As for three equaling one, time has three dimensions, space has three dimensions. water has three states. yet there is only one concept of space, time or water. you can call the three states of water different, but they are all water.
@ogunitracy "And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.(Quran 5:116)
you're not getting it. Allah says that the Qu'ran is easy to understand but that is impossible if one word has two contradictory meanings. Either the word actually has only one meaning or Allah lied.
The explanation of the trinity is three separate things combining to form one thing.
also, the bible never says that Christians know all languages. it says that the Holy spirit will give people power to speak in languages they do not know - which has happened. It also says that the Holy spirit gives different gifts to different people so not every christian will speak in tongues.
@ogunitracy Yes Quran is easy to understand because it gives clear and logical meanings.Not like illogical 3 part form 1 god.And also those who posses intelligence Quran is more easy. When u read Quran it make sense itself. U dont need to look for special scholars.
@ogunitracy For me found means it appeared to or discovered. So here fo me it appeared to or as if . Thats why if u see international translation of Quran it has Found with(as if). And if its not then we will also know what it means. Because other verses of Quran confirmed sun has its own orbit and it moves towards its stopping point. U will not find anywhere in Quran that day and night are because of sun moving.
@ogunitracy As i said Arabic is correct so. The most correct translation becoming from Arabic is Found(As if) and as i said its found(as if) in english in my language it has( It appeared to). So i can understand. In english Dhul-qarnain discovered"as if" the sun is setting in muddy hot water.
so the sun movea. that's great. i never knew. but people used to believe that the sun orbits the earth so the qu'ran saying the earth moves in n=an orbit is no acheivement. an acheivement would have been for the qu'ran to say that the sun does not orbit the earth.
first, you said there are two meanings in arabic. now you say there is only one meaning. you seem to have made up your mind. so i ask, why was it translated found? it seems you are trying to distort the meaning
@ogunitracy 24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. 25 Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 27 And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man"(Jhon 5)
@ogunitracy "It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun, and the moon; each of them floating in an orbit. "(Quran 21:33)
And in another verse of Quran:
"And the sun runs [on course] toward its stopping point. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing."(Quran 36:38)
"in Its own orbit" clearly means sun is orbiting and moving towards its stopping point . Sun is not orbiting around any other thing. And in Quran earth has no stopping point just orbit.
you keep telling me to use the two different meanings together. perhaps you can just give me the word so i can check its meaning because you're making no sense.
you also didn't understand me about Thomas. Thomas called Jesus God. Instead of rebuking him, Jesus praised him. Therefore, Jesus accepted the title of God.
@ogunitracy And we love Jesus(PBUH) and respect him more then you people do. As for real Name of Jesus(PBUH) is Isa or Essa(PBUH) as in hebrew or Armaic "Yeshua, spelled יֵשׁוּעַ (Yēšūă‘)" so if i say"e-sh-ua" or "e-su-a" its making same name Esa-Essa-Isa(PBUH).
don't deceive yourself. Essa does not equal Yeshua. Jesus is the English translation of Yeshua just as Marie is the french translation of Mary. Equating Essa to Yeshua simply by pronunciation is like equating Tracy to Traci. They are not the same name.
as for the sun, that is circular reasoning. You are trying to convince me that Allah knows the truth by telling me that if Allah says the sun will stop it must be true. what makes you think the sun will stop other than that?
@ogunitracy U have no logic. Can it be god need food to feed himself? And English is newly created language. Before it Quran translates it as 'Dhul-qarnain' Discovered(as if)" so there is no mistake. Don,t make illogical argues i told u Found got 2 meanings .Discovered or it appeared to(as if). So if u have no sense thats not my problem. And u did.nt answer a singal Question of mine Correctly. Becuse u know bible contains errors.Its not a word of God anymore. And earth do not move? answer??
i am not answering your questions because you ask them to sway me from the topic at hand - namely, the sun setting in a pond. you also ask too many questions at once hoping that i will get caught up answering them that i forget that the qu'ran says the sun sets in a pond. we have resolved one issue - namely the trinity. now we need to resolve this issue. after that, you can ask me one question at a time and i will answer
@ogunitracy Yeah to sway you lol. U cant answer its a prove. And i answered thousand time. But its like u dont see dont read. Go now you are illogical. Your mind is not that big to understand them now. Keep anwering me out of context. Like programmed pop. To defend yourself. Which answer you give with point? Go now the Quran is ok if it say "Dhul Qarnain" Found(As if)" As in my language found is not a word. Found is discovered is appeared to is Discover+appeared to= 1 word of my language
you refuse to take on one issue at a time but instead pelt me with questions. Is that not childishness? Let's resolve this one issue and you can ask me any questions you wish. give me the word so i can find its meaning. if you do not, it is because you know you are lying.
so i checked out the translations. six out of seven say 'he found'. One adds 'as if' in brackets. In brackets because it is not in the original translation. then i found a word by word translation of the verse and it turns out that 'as if' is not there.
'Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.'
@ogunitracy Still there is written he found it. (Not Allah found it)
Quran is very rich in terms of rhetorical devices and the verses above employ one of them called “Point of View – (Third-Person Subjective Narrative)”. In other words, the above narrative is just an expression of Zulqarnain’s own reality.(As i told you Quran mentions "Dhul-Qaranain". that it look to him.)
it is very easy to clear up that confusion. Allah said, "Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Zulqarnain! either give them a chastisement or do them a benefit."
@ogunitracy I know it means direction, but u were saying maghrib do not mean west thats why i said. And i write also what we call place of sunset in english? Of course it means west. Here Maghrib also use for time. Time of sunset. We have a prayer one of 5 prayers names "Maghrib" this prayer is performed after sunset. So we use daily to refer time. Like we say time of "Maghrib"
what exactly are you saying is the true meaning of the sentence and why do you suggest that it is different from what more knowledgeable translators say?
@ogunitracy I said previously our arabic word equal to 2. Which means it make 2 senses. this word itself make sense for both . Found or appeared to. Wheather u take it as found or appeared it will be the one.Its a word like this i am not lying go ask any arab. It will itself fits into correct meaning.And if u are not understanding here go to link maybe this man can teach you.And know this Quran is not wrong the languages contains contradictions.
but I am asking Arabs. I am asking the groups of Arabs who translated the Qu'ran. they are claiming that the word means 'found'. Even those who like you wish to add 'as if' put it in brackets because they realize that that is not what the qu'ran says but their addition. what do you want me to do? do you want me to believe you and some other guy over the knowledgeable scholars who made all those seven translations?
hello? If you now agree with me that Allah did indeed say the sun sets in a muddy spring, then you are free to ask one question about Christianity and we will debate it. otherwise, please keep your objections coming.
@ogunitracy As i clear before u are nothing big to me. I don,t want you to convert.If u understand what means then its ok if not then it also ok. I said the Arabic word is a joined word.Mean in real the same word use for both purposes. U said how did u put what is the correct one. Then i told to you its is present in Arabic with sense of Appeared to from 1400 years. Not becuse of english u can put your own words in to Quran.Because other verses are enough to testify how sun moves.
@ogunitracy If i did anything bad i apologize.If i hurt i apologize. U want to know the truth. My words and english words are different. Found is it self ok. If there were any verse like in which Allah himself said like this about sun.It will considered as strict. Allah said" Dhul-qarnain found" just because of this we don,t consider it as a sun movement. Its a story of holy man. Allah is pointing towards him. if there is something like this Allah have said long ago.
Allah is reporting something there. Allah meant that 'Dhul-qarnain thought'. He would have added the thought. he was not trying to deceive us. Instead, he said that 'Dhul-qarnain found' - all the translators of the Qu'ran agree with me. They cannot all be wrong and you, right. If Allah says that Dhul-qarnain found it, that means that Allah must think it exists because no one can find something that does not exist.
Allah believes one thing but the truth is another. do you see?
@ogunitracy You want the truth their are much greater scientific miracles in Quran with 100% accuracy. And Quran is all 100% accurate. Need to understand it go learn language. translation are pure and they are ok. There is nothing wrong in them. They are understandable. If observed clearly.
" He (Dhu'l-Qarneyn) reached the setting-place of the sun".
Because I love you, I want you to know the truth too. I see your problem. You are afraid to doubt. but doubt is good. When I am in doubt, i search every corner of the universe till I find the truth. When i have found it, I am happy because it is the truth even if it is different from what i used to believe . The truth is good, no matter how different it is.
@ogunitracy He still pointing to "Dhul-qarnain". If i say tracy found beautiful sunset at sea he found it like sun was going into water. It doesnt mean i found sunset like this.It simply make sense what you means.
the problem with your example is that Allah says he reached the place. If I sit watching the sunset going into water, I have not reached the place. It is still far away.
If you say "Tracy reached the setting place of the sun. She found it in a pool of muddy water."
That means I REACHED the setting place of the sun because that was exactly what it said.
@ogunitracy Yes until he reached the setting place of sun he found it setting in a spring of black muddy water. And yes it make sense what Allah means.It doesnt means sun is going into dark mud.
@ogunitracy Its also make sense if he reached the setting place everyone know sun sets in west. The word"Maghrib" means west not lying nor adding my word. It means he reached into the west "Maghrib" the place of sunset. Quran it self said "maghrib"
@ogunitracy And the hadith u quote is correct. Here an example how we feel when someone abuse our religon,
Our Religion to us is like our father means we love and respect our religion better then our father because its true,Its like someone say your father bad words before your eyes.
Then what u do? Same for our religion the muslim that is converted to other religion is under direct target if u understand what i mean.
are you saying that you support the killing of apostates and that this somehow proves that islam is a religion of peace? You can only pick one. Either apostates are to be killed or Islam is a religion of peace.
@ogunitracy Allah did`nt said he found. He said dhul-Qarnain found. And if u are only taking meaning found.
Then arabic word "وَجَدَهَا" has got 2 meanings. To some it means "It appeared to" some says "Found" go look in dictionary. If u use "it appeared to"Dhul-qarnain" maybe then your problem will be solved. If u have some power to observe then also u will not have any difficulties with the word found. I read both translations "it appeared to" and with found(as if). and they make sense to me.
showing people the right part even if it hurts is the right thing to do.
so this is the entire translation. "Dhul-qarnain found the place of the setting of the sun" with this translation, Dhul-qarnain 'found' the place of the setting of the sun. If the arabic word also means 'it appeared to', you have a problem because both translations of the same word are contradictory. you need to find out which actually applies in the context because we need to pick one
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."
@ogunitracy Quran is easy for those who posses intelligence. U said "Found" yes i know found and arabs also know what it means in their language. In my language "Found" has got to meanings(Appeared to or as if) no 2(Discovered) same with arabic. so i don,t have any problem. According to bible the true christian know every language. Yet u know only 1. And i 2 my brother is learning 3rd also. We muslims are more christians then urselfs.
@ogunitracy Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 - It says that… ‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents - And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’ Now here mention believers not other means u christians. Answer this if u are true go drink deadly poison now.
it says 'these signs will follow those who believe in my name' and the signs do follow us. what it does not say is if this will happen to all believers. another part of the bible says that the Holy spirit gives his gifts to whoever he wants. so the signs do follow us, but not everyone of us. I can't drink poison now because the Bible says not to test God.
@ogunitracy "Its says here true believers" "not says to test true god" lol. Your answer is out of context. And yes for trinity. god+ Son of god+holy spirit. Correct?
@ogunitracy And for sun u say its unscientific go educate yourself. The sun is moving in direction of star vega science discovered now. Sun has its "Own orbit" The Sun's orbit around the galaxy is about 220 km/s and thus its orbital period is about 240 million years."This is Called cosmic year.
Go now my religion is enough true and beautiful for me.
@ogunitracy Lol my Quran have enough evidence to show what is the truth. If Allah wants to guide you he will. If he don,t want then i cant do anything. And where Jesus(PBUH) himself said that " I am God or Worship me" Why he eats with people? It means he need to feed himself or he can,t live. Your bible said earth do not move. Moon has its own light. Challenge you prove them. And why jesus(PBUH) prayed to God when he is. God is praying God. What a non sense.
@ogunitracy And found means "It appeared to or as if" and "Discovered" with both meanings "Dhul-Qarnain discovered(as if) sun is setting into water. with both words it make sense.
SUBHANALLAH.. SO TOUCHING. I LOVE YOU AKHI FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH
imahmud 10 hours ago
116. And (remember) when God will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides God?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.(Al:ma'idah) holy Quran
DJibby1 1 week ago
@marianetemanJ ; I agree with you on most parts. Yes, God exists. Yes, Jesus did walk this planet, and yes, Jesus will walk this earth again. Islam and Christianity are very similar. The only difference is that we believe that Jesus was a prophet who preached 1 God and who didn't die but rather was taken up by God and he will return as a leader who will lead the righteous to victory over the anti Christ
SecretlyDawn 2 weeks ago
SUBHANALLAH,,,, brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant
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@adrenaline991 Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
marionetemanJ 2 weeks ago
Amazing story. Yes, there is an extreme level of noise surrounding Islam. For the outsider, Islam usually is that, madmen shouting Allah Akbar, with machineguns in their hands. And they never can find it in their minds to read the Quran. Because "Islam is crazy people". But if they should do, seeking God, by Gods will, as someone researching religious scriptures, you will find it amazing, you will recognize the people, and it will not be incoherent, like other scriptures. Praised be the one God.
ParadoxEternal 1 month ago
....replacing one version of a myth with another. Ironic and unfortunate.
Its also ironic that the arguments he claims led him away from one version of myth convinced him of the truth of another version of that same myth.
faithisfiction 1 month ago
@faithisfiction ur just letting hollywood dictate wut u think of religion
gentileman23 3 weeks ago
moshallah i cant wait to hear ur lecture at our masjid on friday inshallah yay hes coming to nashville tn inshallah
marylovesallah 1 month ago
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He misses that family intermarried at certain points in the Old Testament. How does he think Cain found a wife? It says, in Genesis 4:17, "Cain lay with his wife ...". There was nobody on earth at that time aside from Adam & his family. Cain's wife was obviously his sister. As for Ruth, reread it, buddy. RUTH & Boaz had a child. OBED. Obed was David's grand father. Guess who's a descendant of David? JESUS CHRIST. There's a reason for EVERY book in the Bible. There's a lot you've missed.
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vislandbaby 1 month ago
Brilliant
alsanabani 1 month ago
Mohammed is the false prophet in the Revelation of John, hellfire will be his payment
Moissenjeff 1 month ago
hahaha very funny story. i liked this guy. very nice dude.
traderseneca 1 month ago
I think honestly debating over what religion is accurate is dumb. I am Muslim; i bear witness there is no god but Allah and Mohamed p.b.u.h was his messenger.
Fartunmohamed67 2 months ago
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tigersforchrist 2 months ago
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there is only one truth book ,the holy Torah,all other are just fake made of people.
if god really want to give new book ,to WORLD TO ALL NATION,why to give it only to one man in cave,without any proof to other??
why not to give it,as sons of Israel got??
when Israelite got the holy Torah,they was 2 millions people in Sinai.
if you will open yours eye's ,you will see that Muhammad was master of COPY and PASTE.
from jews holy books.
ISEL333 2 months ago
Jésus is a Prophet of God.
We should keep on studying the 3 great religions. We should contrast and compare.
Then after much research, the truth will be clear.
Do not conclude too early, or your result would be biased.
riadjhummun 2 months ago
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Allah is not god. He is a false god. Jesus is the only true God. You can only be saved through Him. The whole bible points to Christ as God. Suffering for us.
Johnboks 2 months ago
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tigersforchrist 3 months ago
if you seek the creator with an open heart Allah will guide you to the truth.
Thank you for this video, really nice and touching story.
alhammads 3 months ago
i already know how this man converted to islam but i still come and listen to this beautiful story
fuckkg 3 months ago
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The false worship to which they have turned ( christianity and Islam )includes disgusting acts of idolatry .
(Cross, Statues, False Festivals or Praying towards a Black Stones and kissing it or killing eachother) .
Those are spiritistic acts, detestable to God .
As well immoral sexual practices before and after marriages ( Islam is guilty too with temporary marriage called Muta , and polygamy is scriptural allowed.
To please God should not we reject false worship ?
Search God over !
SuperPricil 3 months ago
As salaam alaykum. This is one of the most beautiful stories of a conversion to the beautiful deen al-Islam. It's a similar story for those among us who have converted, yet so very different. Alhamdulillah we have been chosen by Allah to become Muslim. Allah is Akbar.
hijab63 3 months ago
muslims r high on religion
Phase3game 4 months ago
Mash'allah ! But trip the beard brother and drop the weird "composite" accent (Urban, black, Arabic, "hip-hop") and just talk like a normal American.
Great story.
Islam4Whites 4 months ago
@Islam4Whites you need to get over the way people talk dude. And what the heck is up with your name "islam4whites" islam does not have a colour or race. If you don't agree with that you are in complete disagreement with Allahs message.
EvelynGB 2 months ago
@EvelynGB: As salaamalaykum: My online name is to show other white people (particularly Americans) that Islam is for ALL, not just the stereotype of those "dark" masses--they are brainwashed by centuries of Christianity.
Islam4Whites 2 months ago
@Islam4Whites I think more white people should join islam
BigPaPaOG5 1 month ago
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@BigPaPaOG5 ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST BECAUSE THE MESSENGER MUHAMMAD IS A FALSE TEACHER. HE TOOK THE HOLY BIBLE OF JESUS CHRIST AND PLAGIARIZED IT! HE THEN ADDED CRAZY RULES INTO IT ABOUT KILLING INFIDELS, 72 VIRGINS ETC... HORRIBLE AND ANTI CHRIST! MUHAMMAD CALLED CHRIST A GREAT PROPHET & VIRGIN BIRTH! CHRIST 700 YEARS BEFORE HIM SAID THE BIBLE IS SEALED AND CLOSED AND ALL WHO CLAIM TO BE PROPHETS AFTER CHRIST ARE FALSE PROPHETS!! REPENT AND ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR GOD!!
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@tigersforchrist shut the hell up. no muslim in their right mind will ever convert away from islam
m10eko 1 month ago
@EvelynGB As to his accent, that's exactly my point too, so many whites see this and think "wow, that sounds really fake, like a phony black or wigger accent" etc. If you look around, you;ll see others have said that of the way he talks. Islam isn't a 3rd world religion or way of thinking, or acting. If you think so, then that's your problem.
Islam4Whites 2 months ago
Mashallah! I came to tears when he said his shahada...
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smuk1900 4 months ago
lose the beard, gain respect.
MuslimFuckJew 4 months ago
The Bhagavad Gita also talks about God's oneness. Islam is NOT THE ONLY RELIGION THAT CONTAINS TRUTH! Nor is it the best. Instead of smelling the carpet you pray on, wake up and smell the fragrant beauty of a diverse world with many paths to the Supreme Being.
asswaxer100 4 months ago
@asswaxer100 A man before you comments about ISLAM, Read Quran. This is not an ego matter, which is best & who is better. This is our life. We have to spend some time for finding the TRUTH. Which you are following is good for you. Ok. But it will take you heaven hereafter. Make sure. Spend some time for finding the truth. If you are not ready to listen, it will misguide you. You can use here nasty words. It will not help you here and hereafter. Think before act.
sadikeen123 4 months ago
@sadikeen123 For you guys it is an "ego matter", otherwise you wouldn't have gotten offended by my comment. You talk about your religion like it's the one and only "deen al haq". You say spend time finding truth? I would tell you to do the same, but I know it'll go in one ear and out the other. It's amazing how you people are so willing to give advice and never bother to take your own.
asswaxer100 4 months ago
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alhamdulillah they convertet to islam, allahu akber!
but what is this? yusha evans going on tours all around the world to tell his story?
what about speaking about what the muslim ummah are going through?!
they are getting slaughtered, and here are way listening and talking about our stories?! We should speak out against the crusaders and the jews,and what they have done! subhanallah.. WAKE UP YA MUSLIMEEN!!
ExposingArmyOfSatan 5 months ago
Mashalla Tabarak Allah, you have really touched people with your story and I hope many will listen to this and learn from it Inshalla :)
RdotTurner 5 months ago
what a very very confusing religion christianity is
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norwidify 5 months ago
Even if I wanted to point out to my own friend that he or she was not worshiping the right God, and most of them aren't, I don't know if I could do it. It isn't possible for every single person to become a daa'ee or a daa'eyah in order to preach truth with logic and diplomacy. What I would advise is for the Muslims themselves to learn their religion from true sources - the Qur'an and the authentic Sunnah. N those who've been blessed with the powers of logic, debate and reasoning, should do more
FloatingOnCloud 6 months ago
I agree about Evan's last message at the end of the video that most of those who find Islam have to 'find' it. But then most non-Muslims are ignorant about Islam and have pre-concieved notions which are incorrect most of the time. Islamophobics work hard to tarnish the image of Islam. Suicide bombers kill their own religion in the name of Islam. Muslims who grow up without knowing or learning Islam turn into poor ambassadors of their religion.
FloatingOnCloud 6 months ago
Mashallah! It was truly inspiring and intellectually stimulating to hear the story of having found true guidance from Allah from a Christian perspective.... May Allah bless Yusha Evans for his efforts in sharing the truth with the rest of the world and all those involved in the video and its upload.
FloatingOnCloud 6 months ago
MASHALLAH so inspiring!
aya47397 6 months ago 19
In my opinion one of the most interesting video which tells in detail about how people came to Islam.
argentumson 6 months ago 2
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argentumson 6 months ago
he could be a good gnome in my garden
MrCalathea 7 months ago
Brother you need to trim your beard, but other then that Amazing video. Mash'allah.
tonylikehotgirl 7 months ago
@tonylikehotgirl He has trimmed and kept his beard as per sunnah. Why should he trim it further? Anyways it doesnt matter what the length of the beard is. If you want to follow sunnah, then keep your beard like brother Yusha.
achinoy 6 months ago
@achinoy What I meant by trim was to clean his beard up. It`s very messy. Just to make it into a nice circular shape.
tonylikehotgirl 6 months ago
Islam is the truth
TheMrpalid 8 months ago 37
allahu akbar.we see ppl like evans,yusuf estes,zakir naik.but we still see dislikes&haters.surely,allah only guides whom he wants.we can only pass the message.the people whose hearts r sealed wont learn though the truth is always here right before their eyes.
thinkinggudboy 8 months ago
@thinkinggudboy Very good point. I forget off the top of my head who, but there was a scholar that said that we have hate due to ignorance and hate due to arrogance. The ones of the latter have their hearts sealed and only Allah can remove that seal, but we can reach out through our dawah efforts to the former group. May Allah guide them all
TheMrpalid 8 months ago
@TheMrpalid yea..we should do dawa to haters too.bcoz almost all reverts wer haters earlier !
thinkinggudboy 7 months ago
@thinkinggudboy That is an excellent point my friend. Inshallah we can reach out to all. Also, let us not forget the both Sahih Muslim and Bukhari there is a hadith in which the Prophet (pbuh) said, something to the extent, the people that hate this religion the most become its strongest defenders once they enter into it.
TheMrpalid 7 months ago
Islam is the truth Alhamdulillah
omw786 8 months ago
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tigersforchrist 8 months ago
@ogunitracy
the crusades and the spanish inquisition.."both were politically oriented and have no biblical backing whatsoever?" lol can you prove that
MsB1ANCA 8 months ago
@MsB1ANCA
Absolutely. In Matthew 26:52, Jesus explicitly stated that anyone who survived by fighting others will perish because of that.
"He who lives by the sword will die by the sword."
On no occasion did he sanction fighting. The crusades started because Muslims captured Jerusalem and other Christian and Jewish nations. I understand their cause but fighting in the name of God when he has commanded you not to fight is not exactly smart.
ogunitracy 8 months ago
@ogunitracy
you're saying the crusades stared because Muslims took Jerusalem from Christian..Yes i agree with you there... Basically the Crusades were in a series of religiously sanctioned wars against Muslims, called by the pope and waged by kings and nobles who volunteered to take up the cross with the goal of restoring Christian control of the Holy Land....you just contradicted your previous comments!
MsB1ANCA 8 months ago
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Actually it says:"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword -Matthew 10:34.
MsB1ANCA 3 months ago
A final point I would raise is that the central truth of the original prophets was NOT submission anywhere or that there is a unitary god (for example, both baal & molech were claimed as [names] for god). The central truth is that there is One God and only One True & Living God. It is this God we are commanded to worship. Also, Muhamm. claims that he received his revelations from an angelic being. Can any examples be offered of earlier prophets who received written revelations from angels
shieldsff 8 months ago
-could you pls offer some support or proof from the Hebrew scriptures that the islamic god is the same as the God of the Hebrews and the Christians ? There appear to be many, many differences- the most obvious is that neither the Hebrews nor the Christians call Him allah. Also, Christians claim the revelation of the Godhead. Where is the proof in the Hebrew scriptures that an angel (the same angel) delivered a message to the Hebrew prophets as it is claimed he did to Muhammad. Thanks
shieldsff 8 months ago
@shieldsff
I can offer proof that they are not the same God, if you want.
ogunitracy 8 months ago
@shieldsff The definition of the name Allah is God.
(READ THE QURAN IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE)
Thank you!
yemen93 8 months ago
thanks for commenting, but I think you miss the point. I have read the Koran & it falls short in my view. The issue is how do we know that it's the same God in the original scriptures as allah in the Koran. Muhammad could not read the original scriptures because he was illiterate. Also, Muhammad claims that he received the Koran from an angel(s). How does one know it was truly an angel from god & that the msg was not corrupted. Also, what proof is there that other prophets got msgs from angels
shieldsff 8 months ago
@shieldsff thanks for showing ur concern in finding the truth....this is all i have to tell you....i cannot explain this to you in a comment...but you can go ask a shelk(a high knolegeble muslim preacher) who speaks good english and ask him all the questions you need answers to...please!!!! do so...i swear to you you will find the truth...just like every 1 who converts to islam. and please forgive my spelling. and i wish u luck on ur journey.
yemen93 8 months ago
@soiization
thanks for asking
politicalislam . com slash blog slash tears - of - jihad
just remove the spaces
ogunitracy 9 months ago
Anyone who sees the comments of ogunitracy can discredit them because they are just derogatory and racist in nature with no basis. Enjoy the video my brothers and sisters
TheMrpalid 9 months ago
@TheMrpalid
islam is not a race.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy This looks how your logic works. First of all understand i don,t want to convert you forcing in Islam is prohibited. I am just doing my duty what my Allah said me to do. Listen Allah said clearly Quran is a " STRAIGHT FORWARD BOOK" which means If Allah want to he would have said this clearly.Instead here is what Allah says about sun "CLEARLY" (CONTINUED)
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
how can you not want to convert me if Islam is true. are you saying my ignorance is a good thing? giving peole the facts is not forcing. yes, the Qu'ran is a straightforward book. Allah said "He found the place where the sun sets - in a pool of muddy water."
answer this question:
Did he find the place where the sun sets? Allah says that he did.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy There is no mistake in Quranic arabic itself. Quranic arabic got different meanings. Thats why u will find same translations with different perspective and u will always find Arabic with them because its the real language of Quran with no mistakes in it.Let me give u some example what i mean from different perspective(Look to my Another comment)
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
I don't know if you're still speaking to me but you're the only decent muslim i know and i have a question that needs an answer, so here goes.
The qu'ran says in verse 4:80 - "Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah."
Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Doesn't this mean that apostates should be killed?
Doesn't that put the lie to the claim that islam is a religion of peace?
ogunitracy 8 months ago
@ogunitracy I don,t mean to. I don,t mean to insult. If it hurts i apologize. Allah needs pure convert means from heart. Not by forcing or these mumbo jumbo propaganda type things that "Islam is spread by swords". We muslims know what real essence of Islam is. And yes. Quran is not a book of "Science" its a book of "Signs". The Quran has got no errors some understand fast some slow its a nature of men.
May Allah guide you to truth and give you the power to think clearly.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Yes thats i mean. Every language has got same words with different meanings. Only used when is needed. Same with Arabic but Quranic Arabic in itself is power Arabic. Which means simple words of Quran. Make bigger meanings from every angle. Because Quran is The pure word of Allah. So he opened for us many ways to better understand his message.
May Allah guide me and all to right path.
(Peace be with you)
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
how then do you know what the real meaning is? it could mean either of them
ogunitracy 9 months ago
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@ogunitracy "And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen."(Quran 5:116)
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy arabic word use here is " مَغْرِبَ" which means in english "West" everyone knows west means setting place of sun.So it means he reached in west where sunsets. The Arabic word "مَغْرِبَ" is used as well as for time. If we say its time of "مَغْرِبَ" then it means its time of sunset. If we say he reached at the time of sunset then problem also solved.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
okay, let's go back to the word by word translation at the link i showed you. the word مَغْرِبَ means the setting place. not west. west in arabic is الغرب
'time' does not fit the context because it goes on to say the sun was going down in a black sea or muddy spring.
the translation of مَغْرِبَ
in that verse is 'place'.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy And don,t think i feel i answered late becuse your answer feel very hard to me. Its Becuse my dsl disconnected. Wheather u blieve me or not. I am not defenseive or Offensive i know i am true.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Bye now. I have other things to do. I am busy not a free guy. Whatever you think can,t made any effect over me.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy The Quranic verse is same like bible as Isa(PBUH) said: No man come unto my father but by me>
Every prophet at his time was a messenger and same applies to him. So here Muhammad(PBUH) is the way to truth and life no man come unto God except by following Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) every prophet send by Allah for his time only but Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) is for whole humanity.
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shieldsff 8 months ago
@ogunitracy How do i know thats a simple Question. Because the basic words that make sentance are always there. Like was,they, did, will,is, this and that etc...There are words words that make meanings. When whole sentance is completed.We look what the best meaning. The sun the moon they are all always there.
And yes i know u are trinitarian now Answer me:
Did 1+1+1=1 make sense?
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
the translators looked at all the context that you talk about and decided that the correct translation is 'place'. On what basis do you reject their translation. do you know more than they do?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Imagine god is saying i sent myself and i am son of men.These verses are said by Jesus(PBUH)
That he is sent from God or whosoever believe in me believe in him.God gave me the power to judge because i am the son of men." Clearly depict he is not the son of God not God instead he is sent by one and only true God. And he is his messenger.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
as for Jesus saying "I am God, worship me." After his resurrection, Thomas called him "My Lord and my God." By not rebuking Thomas but commending him, he accepted the title of God. If he is not God, then he was a liar and a false prophet.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy the word is وَجَدَهَا. I give you that before don,t be child. And i said go open any oxford dictionary or whatever u will find what it means
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy en(DOT)wikipedia(DOT)org/wiki/Maghreb
And what we call the setting place of sun in english?
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
are you saying that allah meant that Zulqarnain. reached west? you cannot reach west. you also cannot find west. west is a relative position. west is a direction and not a place. so you cannot reach west. allah meant the place where the sun sets, literally. and that place does not exist.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Its in nature of God that God himself say that i am creator go read.And that God is one. Their is no God except one Allah the true creator. And Jesus(PBUH) is his one of the mighty messengers. bible said dont drink alchol dont eat pork. While you people eat and drink. And we muslims are better followers of Jesus(PBUH) that we dont drink alchol and eat pork. Because Allah forbidden them. We excepts all prophet moses,jesus Mohammad(PBUH) and all.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
i'm practically laughing at you right now. you cannot defend your religion so you stoop to attacking mine. I say give me the word so i can find its meaning but you won't. Instead you heap up accusations in the hopes that I will turn defensive. we have resolved one christian issue. now we must resolve one Muslim one. my gospel is strong enough to defend itself but yours is not. Your misunderstanding of Christianity is showing. stick to what you know. defend islam.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Take it its not "as if" OK i agree just for u that not "as if" Quran is still mentioning (he found).
If i say "I found it very difficult to pass my words" does it mean i found difficulty itself with its face and nature and shape and form? or just i describing my point that what i mean?
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
you're not using a good example. you need to replace only one word. if i say "you found a pen" do i mean that you think you found a pen? no. i mean you actually found a pen. If Allah says "He found the setting place of the sun." Allah does not mean he 'thinks' he found the setting-place of the sun. Allah did not add 'think' Allah said, 'he found'
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
as for the trinity making sense, does space not have three dimensions? each dimension is not space on its own but the totality of it is space.
but let's stick to the topic
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy 28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. 30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.(John 5)
"Jesus(PBUH) talking about judgement day" That I am here to please only one who sent me"
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
when Jesus says God, he could mean himself, the father or the Holy Spirit.
But you are ignoring my question. first you say it has two meanings. then you say it has only one meaning. if that is the meaning, why was it translated wrongly?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy No i did,nt reject nor i said i did. Because "Found" in my language has itself got two meanings 1(It appeared to or as if) 2(Discovered). And its not my problem if u don,t understand i am giving clear what i know. Can u give me an example of (3=1). I am not started if i am started u can,t answer my single Question correctly
I was ignoring u from beginning.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
Now, we have a problem because the Qu'ran is apparently not as easy to understand as Allah claimed. how do we know which of those he means?
As for three equaling one, time has three dimensions, space has three dimensions. water has three states. yet there is only one concept of space, time or water. you can call the three states of water different, but they are all water.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
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@ogunitracy "And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.(Quran 5:116)
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy u split concept of God in three parts. Space itself is 3 dimensional closed.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Tell me (1+1+1=1) is it logical in itself?
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Now come to trinity. the easiest example of trinity is. There are 3 people in 1 room.Correct?
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
you're not getting it. Allah says that the Qu'ran is easy to understand but that is impossible if one word has two contradictory meanings. Either the word actually has only one meaning or Allah lied.
The explanation of the trinity is three separate things combining to form one thing.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
also, the bible never says that Christians know all languages. it says that the Holy spirit will give people power to speak in languages they do not know - which has happened. It also says that the Holy spirit gives different gifts to different people so not every christian will speak in tongues.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Yes Quran is easy to understand because it gives clear and logical meanings.Not like illogical 3 part form 1 god.And also those who posses intelligence Quran is more easy. When u read Quran it make sense itself. U dont need to look for special scholars.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
so which of the two is a correct interpretation?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy For me found means it appeared to or discovered. So here fo me it appeared to or as if . Thats why if u see international translation of Quran it has Found with(as if). And if its not then we will also know what it means. Because other verses of Quran confirmed sun has its own orbit and it moves towards its stopping point. U will not find anywhere in Quran that day and night are because of sun moving.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy As i said Arabic is correct so. The most correct translation becoming from Arabic is Found(As if) and as i said its found(as if) in english in my language it has( It appeared to). So i can understand. In english Dhul-qarnain discovered"as if" the sun is setting in muddy hot water.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
so the sun movea. that's great. i never knew. but people used to believe that the sun orbits the earth so the qu'ran saying the earth moves in n=an orbit is no acheivement. an acheivement would have been for the qu'ran to say that the sun does not orbit the earth.
first, you said there are two meanings in arabic. now you say there is only one meaning. you seem to have made up your mind. so i ask, why was it translated found? it seems you are trying to distort the meaning
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy u are not following Jesus(PBUH). U are following Paul and satan.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy 24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. 25 Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 27 And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man"(Jhon 5)
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy "It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun, and the moon; each of them floating in an orbit. "(Quran 21:33)
And in another verse of Quran:
"And the sun runs [on course] toward its stopping point. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing."(Quran 36:38)
"in Its own orbit" clearly means sun is orbiting and moving towards its stopping point . Sun is not orbiting around any other thing. And in Quran earth has no stopping point just orbit.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
so, there is a point where the sun stops moving? or is this another word that has two meanings?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
you keep telling me to use the two different meanings together. perhaps you can just give me the word so i can check its meaning because you're making no sense.
you also didn't understand me about Thomas. Thomas called Jesus God. Instead of rebuking him, Jesus praised him. Therefore, Jesus accepted the title of God.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy And we love Jesus(PBUH) and respect him more then you people do. As for real Name of Jesus(PBUH) is Isa or Essa(PBUH) as in hebrew or Armaic "Yeshua, spelled יֵשׁוּעַ (Yēšūă‘)" so if i say"e-sh-ua" or "e-su-a" its making same name Esa-Essa-Isa(PBUH).
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
don't deceive yourself. Essa does not equal Yeshua. Jesus is the English translation of Yeshua just as Marie is the french translation of Mary. Equating Essa to Yeshua simply by pronunciation is like equating Tracy to Traci. They are not the same name.
as for the sun, that is circular reasoning. You are trying to convince me that Allah knows the truth by telling me that if Allah says the sun will stop it must be true. what makes you think the sun will stop other than that?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
you still need to give me the real word so i can find its meaning
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy U have no logic. Can it be god need food to feed himself? And English is newly created language. Before it Quran translates it as 'Dhul-qarnain' Discovered(as if)" so there is no mistake. Don,t make illogical argues i told u Found got 2 meanings .Discovered or it appeared to(as if). So if u have no sense thats not my problem. And u did.nt answer a singal Question of mine Correctly. Becuse u know bible contains errors.Its not a word of God anymore. And earth do not move? answer??
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
i am not answering your questions because you ask them to sway me from the topic at hand - namely, the sun setting in a pond. you also ask too many questions at once hoping that i will get caught up answering them that i forget that the qu'ran says the sun sets in a pond. we have resolved one issue - namely the trinity. now we need to resolve this issue. after that, you can ask me one question at a time and i will answer
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Yeah to sway you lol. U cant answer its a prove. And i answered thousand time. But its like u dont see dont read. Go now you are illogical. Your mind is not that big to understand them now. Keep anwering me out of context. Like programmed pop. To defend yourself. Which answer you give with point? Go now the Quran is ok if it say "Dhul Qarnain" Found(As if)" As in my language found is not a word. Found is discovered is appeared to is Discover+appeared to= 1 word of my language
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
you refuse to take on one issue at a time but instead pelt me with questions. Is that not childishness? Let's resolve this one issue and you can ask me any questions you wish. give me the word so i can find its meaning. if you do not, it is because you know you are lying.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
so i checked out the translations. six out of seven say 'he found'. One adds 'as if' in brackets. In brackets because it is not in the original translation. then i found a word by word translation of the verse and it turns out that 'as if' is not there.
'Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.'
the sun sets in a muddy spring.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Still there is written he found it. (Not Allah found it)
Quran is very rich in terms of rhetorical devices and the verses above employ one of them called “Point of View – (Third-Person Subjective Narrative)”. In other words, the above narrative is just an expression of Zulqarnain’s own reality.(As i told you Quran mentions "Dhul-Qaranain". that it look to him.)
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
it is very easy to clear up that confusion. Allah said, "Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Zulqarnain! either give them a chastisement or do them a benefit."
Q & A:
Did Zulqarnain reach the place where the sun set?
yes or no?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy I know it means direction, but u were saying maghrib do not mean west thats why i said. And i write also what we call place of sunset in english? Of course it means west. Here Maghrib also use for time. Time of sunset. We have a prayer one of 5 prayers names "Maghrib" this prayer is performed after sunset. So we use daily to refer time. Like we say time of "Maghrib"
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
what exactly are you saying is the true meaning of the sentence and why do you suggest that it is different from what more knowledgeable translators say?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy As "Sahih translation" contain most correct meanings of Quranic Arabic.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy I said previously our arabic word equal to 2. Which means it make 2 senses. this word itself make sense for both . Found or appeared to. Wheather u take it as found or appeared it will be the one.Its a word like this i am not lying go ask any arab. It will itself fits into correct meaning.And if u are not understanding here go to link maybe this man can teach you.And know this Quran is not wrong the languages contains contradictions.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
but I am asking Arabs. I am asking the groups of Arabs who translated the Qu'ran. they are claiming that the word means 'found'. Even those who like you wish to add 'as if' put it in brackets because they realize that that is not what the qu'ran says but their addition. what do you want me to do? do you want me to believe you and some other guy over the knowledgeable scholars who made all those seven translations?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy
hello? If you now agree with me that Allah did indeed say the sun sets in a muddy spring, then you are free to ask one question about Christianity and we will debate it. otherwise, please keep your objections coming.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy As i clear before u are nothing big to me. I don,t want you to convert.If u understand what means then its ok if not then it also ok. I said the Arabic word is a joined word.Mean in real the same word use for both purposes. U said how did u put what is the correct one. Then i told to you its is present in Arabic with sense of Appeared to from 1400 years. Not becuse of english u can put your own words in to Quran.Because other verses are enough to testify how sun moves.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy If i did anything bad i apologize.If i hurt i apologize. U want to know the truth. My words and english words are different. Found is it self ok. If there were any verse like in which Allah himself said like this about sun.It will considered as strict. Allah said" Dhul-qarnain found" just because of this we don,t consider it as a sun movement. Its a story of holy man. Allah is pointing towards him. if there is something like this Allah have said long ago.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
Allah is reporting something there. Allah meant that 'Dhul-qarnain thought'. He would have added the thought. he was not trying to deceive us. Instead, he said that 'Dhul-qarnain found' - all the translators of the Qu'ran agree with me. They cannot all be wrong and you, right. If Allah says that Dhul-qarnain found it, that means that Allah must think it exists because no one can find something that does not exist.
Allah believes one thing but the truth is another. do you see?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy You want the truth their are much greater scientific miracles in Quran with 100% accuracy. And Quran is all 100% accurate. Need to understand it go learn language. translation are pure and they are ok. There is nothing wrong in them. They are understandable. If observed clearly.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy If u are learning arabic, why don,t u ask them this. Instead of me.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
I have asked them and their answer is this:
" He (Dhu'l-Qarneyn) reached the setting-place of the sun".
Because I love you, I want you to know the truth too. I see your problem. You are afraid to doubt. but doubt is good. When I am in doubt, i search every corner of the universe till I find the truth. When i have found it, I am happy because it is the truth even if it is different from what i used to believe . The truth is good, no matter how different it is.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy He still pointing to "Dhul-qarnain". If i say tracy found beautiful sunset at sea he found it like sun was going into water. It doesnt mean i found sunset like this.It simply make sense what you means.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
the problem with your example is that Allah says he reached the place. If I sit watching the sunset going into water, I have not reached the place. It is still far away.
If you say "Tracy reached the setting place of the sun. She found it in a pool of muddy water."
That means I REACHED the setting place of the sun because that was exactly what it said.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Yes until he reached the setting place of sun he found it setting in a spring of black muddy water. And yes it make sense what Allah means.It doesnt means sun is going into dark mud.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Its also make sense if he reached the setting place everyone know sun sets in west. The word"Maghrib" means west not lying nor adding my word. It means he reached into the west "Maghrib" the place of sunset. Quran it self said "maghrib"
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
You cannot reach the west because west is not a real place. No matter how far west I travel, West will always lie beyond me.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy And the hadith u quote is correct. Here an example how we feel when someone abuse our religon,
Our Religion to us is like our father means we love and respect our religion better then our father because its true,Its like someone say your father bad words before your eyes.
Then what u do? Same for our religion the muslim that is converted to other religion is under direct target if u understand what i mean.
mogogogoify 8 months ago
@mogogogoify
are you saying that you support the killing of apostates and that this somehow proves that islam is a religion of peace? You can only pick one. Either apostates are to be killed or Islam is a religion of peace.
ogunitracy 8 months ago
@ogunitracy Allah did`nt said he found. He said dhul-Qarnain found. And if u are only taking meaning found.
Then arabic word "وَجَدَهَا" has got 2 meanings. To some it means "It appeared to" some says "Found" go look in dictionary. If u use "it appeared to"Dhul-qarnain" maybe then your problem will be solved. If u have some power to observe then also u will not have any difficulties with the word found. I read both translations "it appeared to" and with found(as if). and they make sense to me.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
showing people the right part even if it hurts is the right thing to do.
so this is the entire translation. "Dhul-qarnain found the place of the setting of the sun" with this translation, Dhul-qarnain 'found' the place of the setting of the sun. If the arabic word also means 'it appeared to', you have a problem because both translations of the same word are contradictory. you need to find out which actually applies in the context because we need to pick one
ogunitracy 9 months ago
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@ogunitracy (Quran 18:86)
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Quran is easy for those who posses intelligence. U said "Found" yes i know found and arabs also know what it means in their language. In my language "Found" has got to meanings(Appeared to or as if) no 2(Discovered) same with arabic. so i don,t have any problem. According to bible the true christian know every language. Yet u know only 1. And i 2 my brother is learning 3rd also. We muslims are more christians then urselfs.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 - It says that… ‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents - And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’ Now here mention believers not other means u christians. Answer this if u are true go drink deadly poison now.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
it says 'these signs will follow those who believe in my name' and the signs do follow us. what it does not say is if this will happen to all believers. another part of the bible says that the Holy spirit gives his gifts to whoever he wants. so the signs do follow us, but not everyone of us. I can't drink poison now because the Bible says not to test God.
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
you do realize that the only verse that you can throw at me is the one that scholars say was not in the original bible, right?
and you haven't answered my question. which of those translations did Allah mean?
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy "Its says here true believers" "not says to test true god" lol. Your answer is out of context. And yes for trinity. god+ Son of god+holy spirit. Correct?
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@mogogogoify
i'm talking about another part of the bible.
the sun does not have an orbit and the sun does not move. If the qu'ran says that, you need a new religion
ogunitracy 9 months ago
@ogunitracy And for sun u say its unscientific go educate yourself. The sun is moving in direction of star vega science discovered now. Sun has its "Own orbit" The Sun's orbit around the galaxy is about 220 km/s and thus its orbital period is about 240 million years."This is Called cosmic year.
Go now my religion is enough true and beautiful for me.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy Lol my Quran have enough evidence to show what is the truth. If Allah wants to guide you he will. If he don,t want then i cant do anything. And where Jesus(PBUH) himself said that " I am God or Worship me" Why he eats with people? It means he need to feed himself or he can,t live. Your bible said earth do not move. Moon has its own light. Challenge you prove them. And why jesus(PBUH) prayed to God when he is. God is praying God. What a non sense.
mogogogoify 9 months ago
@ogunitracy And found means "It appeared to or as if" and "Discovered" with both meanings "Dhul-Qarnain discovered(as if) sun is setting into water. with both words it make sense.
mogogogoify 9 months ago