Sociopaths are disorganized and likely to commit crimes and wind up in prison. Psychopaths can be highly organized, focused and successful, rise the corporate ladder and even have long-term, stable family lives. They share in common an inability to feel empathy towards others, but the sociopath will tend to act out in rage when frustrated while the psychopath has no emotional affect and are calculating. Psychopaths can be highly intelligent and adept at mimicking emotions to manipulate others.
I looked at the dislikes and likes... 64 likes, 2 dislikes. I also read that about 4% of the human population are psychopaths. So, basicly, 1/25, people. 2/50. Just crossed my mind.
Thats what they do!-they play into your emotions and tell you that their sorry for their acts, THATS BULLSHIT!. THEY CAN'T CHANGE, THEY DON'T CARE, they will stab you in the back the minute you show them mercy, they are the biggest cause to the misery and destruction dispensed on human beings in our history,
why does the world feel so wrong?, because its psychopaths in power, we just think their only serial killers, leaders kill also, but they do it on a mass scale, and they try to justify it
@gorlist187 thats why its specified about a hundred times the test has to be done by a professional to gauge your responses, dickhead. they're common traits in normal people, but are dominant in psychopaths. or maybe you're just a psychopath.
bullshit...we have a lot of conscience....the thing is....only things that matter to ourselves is what we feel good or bad about.....as for what others feel? who gives a shit...we only care about our own emotions and have no room for other peoples bullshit crap....that is why people are expendible, and those of us that kill our focus and marks are deemed lucky...those like me bleed people dry over time of their happiness innocently and it feeds us
"they're all around us"' that's true, they are mostly in government and various other powerfull positions. What's the difference between stabbing a man, and ordering others to kill thousands with one click of a button.
Sociopaths will often wrap themselves around socially acceptable pursuits such as religion, patriotism, finance, law, government, etc. and within these venues practice their personal self-serving agenda at the expense of doing harm to others if need be.
The cultural ethos has developed from an encouragement of 'individualism'.
Although never meant to reinforce narcissism, inadvertently this came to pass.
Thereafter, there developed a progression into the pursuit of personal desires over any imposed societal limitations (eg. as in laws, religion, morality etc.) which were seen as an impedance.
There are a variety of contributing factors to the development of psychopathy associated with family upbringing, including such things as abuse, neglect, modeling, amongst others.
However, even more insidious, and by far the greatest contributor to the prodigious number of psychopaths in present day American society is the cultural ethos.
The ubiquitous practice of sociopathy in American society has come to be accepted as normative and indeed often rewarded
There are essentially two origins to psychopathy/sociopathy.
There are psychopaths who are a product of "environment" and those who are "genetically" inclined.
The former are far more prevalent, and are a product of family upbringing and/or cultural influences.
The later are either simply genetically character disturbed (an isolated Personality Disorder) or genetically character disturbed as a component of a more serious mental illness (eg. Bipolar, Schizophrenia, etc.)
Most politicians must be psychopaths as the vast majority dont give a toss about the public that voted them into power.They lie,cheat,steal,embezzle etc,they have no empathy for anyone else but themselves.Everything they do is purely for their benefit,where they are supposed to be working for the good of the public that put them into power.Why has this cycle gone on for centuries?Look at the UK,due to the government we are prisoners in our own country,under strict rule of some really dumb laws.
Quite possibly not, narcissistic definitely, devoid of empathy quite probably but they were also highly emotional beings. Hitler was most likely a severe manic-depressive (his own physician diagnosed him as being a manic depressive), manic depression is a mood disorder and is a sign of poor regulation of emotion; psychopaths don't suffer from such mood swings, they don't feel much at all, whatever you think of him Hitler did feel strongly about things, psychopaths don't.
But if the main criteria of a psychopath is a lack of conscience, then surely a refusal to see animal suffering, or hear details of human suffering shows that Hitler didn't lack a conscience, just that he subsumed it uber hiw agenda.
Well, the moral standards may have been different, but even then there was the notion of right and wrong, where-as a psychopath simply lacks such an understanding.
So if a psycopath lived in ancient Rome, he'd end up doing things that were considered wrong to the Romans.
I don't know if Hitler (atleast) qualifies as a psychopath, since apparently not only did he love animals very much (thus showed emotions), but it seems he hated hearing any details about the killings and deaths carried out in the East.
The only place to get psychopaths to study are in jail??? Why not go to the right wing of the republican party....you will find a crap load there....you can spot them because they are wrapped up in dozens of american flags.
@poosta7 Yes, and they say "God loves you" while blasting away innocent civilians overseas. You know...doing the "Will of God" and all...at least according to Sarah Palin, of course.
@poosta7 Or the even more deceiving politicians in the Democrat party who lie to our faces and promise change and are able to deceive us in the largest way.
@poosta7 STFU and take your politics somewhere else. They said that the only place where psychopaths were available for study were in jail because you can't just walk up to someone and randomly say, "Hey, are you a phsychopath?"
@poosta7 Interesting that you say that, Dr. Robert Hare is an expert in the field of psychopathy who used to study psychopaths in prisons. Now he says he should have been looking in the Stock Exchange to find psychopaths.
@poosta7 The only psychopaths who are "readily available". Psychopaths in the general population of society are rarely "readily available" for research.
@johnwpurcellx Blame the BBC. I've seen a few of Adrian Raine's talks, and in each he pointed out that he himself has a brain scan that resembles a serial murderer. So does Jim Fallon.
Commentators, please do your research. I highly recommend Robert Hare's 'Without Conscience'. A good starting point to get a clear illustration of these dangerous beings. I just hate to read all of these ignorant remarks on a subject that is very specific in its definition and cannot afford to be confused and muddled and theorized about by people who haven't the slightest clue to begin with.
@Party9494 Thank you! So much ignorance on here with regards to psychopathy. The best are the delusional idiots that believe that a psychopath could mend his/her ways if he/she would just "accept Jesus as Lord and Savior!!11"
I would bet my entire collection of Dale Earnhardt Collectable Coffee Mugs(worth in excess of $200,000) that there has not been one successful "rehabilitation" of a psychopathic personality.
People who are child abusers are classic psychopaths because child abuse is the ultimate theft. I know this personally from my childhood. They also educate everyone around them that life is perfect so when people don't confront sexual abuse in the public eye or try stop it from a knee jerk feeling of EMPATHY then they are psychopathic too... evil secrets really do make you crazy and the cure is truth to hope in my opinion.
@32GaugeSlug I doubt psychopaths would have the ability for any sort of long-term planning (maybe they can plan but - ) they wouldn't be able to carry out their plans and be successful in the long-term. What you're speaking of would be a narcissist, most likely.
I think the distinction between narcissists with callous-unemotional traits (i.e. 'malignant narcissists') and psychopaths is really just one of disposition; psychopaths are more uniform in their disposition, primary psychopaths anyway. They are unfazed by things, they may have hubris but their sensitivity toward narcissistic injury is much lower than in severe narcissists.
Plus narcissists are on a continuum of normal humans, psychopaths are a discrete group.
@MsPingu112 I would say that the traits described in the video "freedom from conscience - psychopaths" would actually make for the ideal political candidate. There are many psychopaths who are able to set long-term goals of conquest. If one combines this desire for power with the traits listed in the video then they will be able to climb both the political and business ladder.
@edwardsson777 You gotta be the biggest moron ever! You really want a person who is devoid of emotion and lacks empathy should be a politician? Unfortunately, the government is already run by borderline psychopaths who have been manipulating sheeple for so long
@danimal24585 I never said that -- I said the "freedom from conscience -- psychopaths" video points out that if you list what traits would make for a winning candidate they fit well with the psychopathic criteria. It is more a warning video, not one extolling the virtues of psychopathic personality.
It is important to distinguish between psychopaths - who constantly demonstrate their symptoms - and other disorders. For example, Multiple Personality Disorder and Bipolar Disorder may have similar characteristics to psychopaths, but only on special occasion. For instance, a Bipolar individual may (but not necessarily will) show psychopathic traits only during a psychotic or manic episode. And unlike psychopaths, these latter disorders can be easily treated with medication and therapy.
Not all psychopaths are murderers or even commit crimes. It's just the ones who are tend to be the ones who are studied (they're easier to recognize and more readily available to study if they're locked away, as opposed to the manipulative psychopath who evades detection by acting normal in the general population). I don't think it's fair to generalize them this way.
Agreed. I believe that the difference between a psychopath who uses physical violence, and one who uses mental violence, is their degree of education. With a high degree of education, a psychopath may realize that their goals of materialism and manipulative control can be obtained through the application of that education, often in a business or corporate occupation (in which there is a disproportionate amount of psychopaths compared to the general population).
Consider that in our evolutionary history there was often limited resources, so being able to swindle others out of their resources was a distinct advantage. The only alternative was death (from starvation), now, however, you don't need, in the West at least, to be able to con people in order to get food etc
So now they have evolved from conning necessities from others to conning them out of luxuries (sex, drugs, money etc).
@theporksicle interesting, but how does this then extend to killing your own brother, in your view? or having compulsions to engage in things that revile the rest of society (the man in this video seems to have a compulsion for drug use)
I don't know about the man in the video's background, however the fact that he said his brother said to him, "If you ever touch my bike I'll kill you" suggests they didn't have the most amicable of relationships. Possibly he was thinking if he killed his brother there would be more for him (fewer mouths to feed).
Drug use? Stimulation probably. They can't get a natural high from love in the way normal people can, so drugs can take the place of emotional bonds.
In terms of drug/alcohol abuse, I think they are far more likely to be abusers than non-psychopaths (although I'm not 100% sure), I wonder how drugs effect them though. If they smoke cannabis or snort cocaine they are not going to 'get in touch with their feelings' or come to some sudden realisation about their evil ways and decide to make amends.
I think it comes down to semantics, but you're right, their amygdalas are different to ours. 'Damaged' is a value judgement, they are just different and so their amygdala (and other parts of the brain) are designed to serve a different purpose, a powerful/reactive amygdala is unecessary for them, and would hinder them in cheating people/weighing up consequences.
True. Their lives must be very boring, emotion is the essence of life for most people.
Correcting the 'defective' brain mechanisms may or may not be possible, a lot of research indicates that they are not suffering from a disorder in the way that a schizophrenic or depresed person is. They are meant to be different, their psychopathy is an evolutionary advantage. Unfortunately for the rest of us they are a problem, but their lack of concern for others is an advantage to them.
Anyone who believes there's good in everyone is very deluded.
@theporksicle if it was truly an "advantage" there would be more of them. They would probably outnumber us. Why dont they outnumber us? Because they tend to be uncooperative. So, they become less likely to do well in society!
It is an advantage in some ways but a disadvantage in others. Being a psychopath in modern western society is advantageous, the potential rewards are huge and the potential punishments fairly light. A study by anthropologist Jane Murphy found that in Inuit communities they kill 'kunlagetas', people who are unrepentant rule breakers and cheats, so there it may not be an advantage to be one.
If they outnumbered us they would die off, only about 1% can be psychopaths.
They do have a stranglehold indeed, unfortunately it seems that they are effectively intra-species predators and so here to stay. We have no more chance of defeating them than a mice does of defeating a cat. Of course, we can score the odd victory (such as when one of them is killed during the course of committing a crime), but until we can reliably identify and either kill or sterilise them we will have no way of winning.
Anyone with the right knowledge can identify one if you have been around them for long enough (their mask slips and you see the cold, predatory reality behind it), the question is can you recognise them before they do you serious emotional, financial or physical damage? Most people can't do that.
To a psychopath humans are no different to other objects, for this guy I doubt whether there would be any difference, emotionally, between killing someone (even his own brother) and throwing away a piece of clothing he no longer wears.
The worst part is he was sentenced to 5-20 years, and this documentary was first shown in 2000 so he's probably alive somewhere.
Sociopaths are disorganized and likely to commit crimes and wind up in prison. Psychopaths can be highly organized, focused and successful, rise the corporate ladder and even have long-term, stable family lives. They share in common an inability to feel empathy towards others, but the sociopath will tend to act out in rage when frustrated while the psychopath has no emotional affect and are calculating. Psychopaths can be highly intelligent and adept at mimicking emotions to manipulate others.
LaughingLefty 1 week ago
I looked at the dislikes and likes... 64 likes, 2 dislikes. I also read that about 4% of the human population are psychopaths. So, basicly, 1/25, people. 2/50. Just crossed my mind.
CyberPhysician 1 month ago
this is bs im a psychopath but i wouldnt do this dont mock my kind
waffleness2 1 month ago
The unintelligent psychopaths sit in jails. The smart psychopaths govern the world.
bfvaffel 1 month ago 9
@bfvaffel I disagree. The clinicians who dealt with Ted Bundy and Karla Tucker said they were among the smartest people they'd met.
Being unable to control a compulsion has nothing to do with intelligence. That's like saying all alcoholics are unintelligent.
andross637 21 hours ago
Thats what they do!-they play into your emotions and tell you that their sorry for their acts, THATS BULLSHIT!. THEY CAN'T CHANGE, THEY DON'T CARE, they will stab you in the back the minute you show them mercy, they are the biggest cause to the misery and destruction dispensed on human beings in our history,
why does the world feel so wrong?, because its psychopaths in power, we just think their only serial killers, leaders kill also, but they do it on a mass scale, and they try to justify it
kurd26 2 months ago
@kurd26 Too true man. The problem with saying it's a disorder is that it gives psychopaths more space to lie in.
whoatemyhummus 3 weeks ago
does anyone know what year this is from?
beckyava 2 months ago
@beckyava
2000.
theporksicle 2 months ago
lol i scored 31 out of 40.....looks like this test is garbage
gorlist187 2 months ago
@gorlist187 thats why its specified about a hundred times the test has to be done by a professional to gauge your responses, dickhead. they're common traits in normal people, but are dominant in psychopaths. or maybe you're just a psychopath.
MrDeebz3 2 months ago
@MrDeebz3 you don't get to talk to me like that assfuck
gorlist187 2 months ago
bullshit...we have a lot of conscience....the thing is....only things that matter to ourselves is what we feel good or bad about.....as for what others feel? who gives a shit...we only care about our own emotions and have no room for other peoples bullshit crap....that is why people are expendible, and those of us that kill our focus and marks are deemed lucky...those like me bleed people dry over time of their happiness innocently and it feeds us
gorlist187 2 months ago
psychopaths ARE A MYTH!
murbones 2 months ago
1 in 200... I'd say 1 in 50
eduardokkss 3 months ago
"they're all around us"' that's true, they are mostly in government and various other powerfull positions. What's the difference between stabbing a man, and ordering others to kill thousands with one click of a button.
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Sociopaths will often wrap themselves around socially acceptable pursuits such as religion, patriotism, finance, law, government, etc. and within these venues practice their personal self-serving agenda at the expense of doing harm to others if need be.
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bassammaelborno 3 months ago
Other persons become only 'objects' that are either in the way and can thus be justifiably 'eliminated' or are tools to be 'used'.
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The cultural ethos has developed from an encouragement of 'individualism'.
Although never meant to reinforce narcissism, inadvertently this came to pass.
Thereafter, there developed a progression into the pursuit of personal desires over any imposed societal limitations (eg. as in laws, religion, morality etc.) which were seen as an impedance.
bassammaelborno 3 months ago
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There are a variety of contributing factors to the development of psychopathy associated with family upbringing, including such things as abuse, neglect, modeling, amongst others.
However, even more insidious, and by far the greatest contributor to the prodigious number of psychopaths in present day American society is the cultural ethos.
The ubiquitous practice of sociopathy in American society has come to be accepted as normative and indeed often rewarded
bassammaelborno 3 months ago
There are essentially two origins to psychopathy/sociopathy.
There are psychopaths who are a product of "environment" and those who are "genetically" inclined.
The former are far more prevalent, and are a product of family upbringing and/or cultural influences.
The later are either simply genetically character disturbed (an isolated Personality Disorder) or genetically character disturbed as a component of a more serious mental illness (eg. Bipolar, Schizophrenia, etc.)
bassammaelborno 3 months ago
How many psychos come from families with loving balanced parents? Probably zero.!
thegrandwazoooo 3 months ago
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bassammaelborno 3 months ago
What differentiates a psychopath from a narcissist?
tekqist28 3 months ago
My brother is a psychopath.
Memoria777 3 months ago
Most politicians must be psychopaths as the vast majority dont give a toss about the public that voted them into power.They lie,cheat,steal,embezzle etc,they have no empathy for anyone else but themselves.Everything they do is purely for their benefit,where they are supposed to be working for the good of the public that put them into power.Why has this cycle gone on for centuries?Look at the UK,due to the government we are prisoners in our own country,under strict rule of some really dumb laws.
silver760 3 months ago
@theporksicle thanks, i am a psy major and i have always wondered if they would be a psychopath.
rocky45693 3 months ago
ok, would people like Hitler or Stalin be psychopaths?
rocky45693 3 months ago in playlist Behavior
@rocky45693 yes
TheMightykaz 3 months ago
@rocky45693
Quite possibly not, narcissistic definitely, devoid of empathy quite probably but they were also highly emotional beings. Hitler was most likely a severe manic-depressive (his own physician diagnosed him as being a manic depressive), manic depression is a mood disorder and is a sign of poor regulation of emotion; psychopaths don't suffer from such mood swings, they don't feel much at all, whatever you think of him Hitler did feel strongly about things, psychopaths don't.
theporksicle 3 months ago
@readmymindhomey
But if the main criteria of a psychopath is a lack of conscience, then surely a refusal to see animal suffering, or hear details of human suffering shows that Hitler didn't lack a conscience, just that he subsumed it uber hiw agenda.
Vebinz 4 months ago
@TheBadBizzle
Well, the moral standards may have been different, but even then there was the notion of right and wrong, where-as a psychopath simply lacks such an understanding.
So if a psycopath lived in ancient Rome, he'd end up doing things that were considered wrong to the Romans.
Vebinz 4 months ago
@readmymindhomey
I don't know if Hitler (atleast) qualifies as a psychopath, since apparently not only did he love animals very much (thus showed emotions), but it seems he hated hearing any details about the killings and deaths carried out in the East.
Vebinz 4 months ago
The only place to get psychopaths to study are in jail??? Why not go to the right wing of the republican party....you will find a crap load there....you can spot them because they are wrapped up in dozens of american flags.
poosta7 4 months ago 51
@poosta7 This gave me a good laugh, which is often an indicator of truth...
JMorde999 3 months ago
@poosta7 Yes, and they say "God loves you" while blasting away innocent civilians overseas. You know...doing the "Will of God" and all...at least according to Sarah Palin, of course.
DiaShanti 3 months ago
@poosta7 Or the even more deceiving politicians in the Democrat party who lie to our faces and promise change and are able to deceive us in the largest way.
TheAnimatorEqualizer 3 months ago
@poosta7 STFU and take your politics somewhere else. They said that the only place where psychopaths were available for study were in jail because you can't just walk up to someone and randomly say, "Hey, are you a phsychopath?"
largeaquaticmammal 2 months ago
@poosta7 People like you make me want to move to canada
95688kage 2 months ago
@poosta7 or just any politician...
alexgbykov 1 month ago
@poosta7 Interesting that you say that, Dr. Robert Hare is an expert in the field of psychopathy who used to study psychopaths in prisons. Now he says he should have been looking in the Stock Exchange to find psychopaths.
Runswithscissors111 1 month ago
@Runswithscissors111 You see malignant narcissists and sociopaths on Wall Street. Not psychopaths. Most sociopaths are not violent.
MrHsmauberley 2 weeks ago
@poosta7 spot on.
diecheney 1 week ago
@poosta7 - your right, im convinced that Mark Levin the far-right radio shock jock fits the profile perfectly
MrOnlinePsychology 4 days ago
@poosta7 The only psychopaths who are "readily available". Psychopaths in the general population of society are rarely "readily available" for research.
Jesusmalaark11 1 day ago
@johnwpurcellx Blame the BBC. I've seen a few of Adrian Raine's talks, and in each he pointed out that he himself has a brain scan that resembles a serial murderer. So does Jim Fallon.
andross637 4 months ago
Commentators, please do your research. I highly recommend Robert Hare's 'Without Conscience'. A good starting point to get a clear illustration of these dangerous beings. I just hate to read all of these ignorant remarks on a subject that is very specific in its definition and cannot afford to be confused and muddled and theorized about by people who haven't the slightest clue to begin with.
Party9494 5 months ago 26
@Party9494 Thank you! So much ignorance on here with regards to psychopathy. The best are the delusional idiots that believe that a psychopath could mend his/her ways if he/she would just "accept Jesus as Lord and Savior!!11"
I would bet my entire collection of Dale Earnhardt Collectable Coffee Mugs(worth in excess of $200,000) that there has not been one successful "rehabilitation" of a psychopathic personality.
dietrite123 2 months ago
@Party9494 Very well said and were would i get this Robert Hare book online ? ..
sixchildren100 1 month ago
People who are child abusers are classic psychopaths because child abuse is the ultimate theft. I know this personally from my childhood. They also educate everyone around them that life is perfect so when people don't confront sexual abuse in the public eye or try stop it from a knee jerk feeling of EMPATHY then they are psychopathic too... evil secrets really do make you crazy and the cure is truth to hope in my opinion.
thunderwithrain 5 months ago
What is this guys name at the beginning? Scary dude.
TheMightykaz 5 months ago
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andross637 4 months ago
@andross637 What is PM?
TheMightykaz 4 months ago
my question is what happens when a psychopath meets a psychopath
BootyBot 5 months ago
that guy is weird al
wolfmanfilms101 5 months ago
@johnwpurcellx Makes perfect sense what you say.
NlmDth 5 months ago
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Fsimplo 5 months ago
@Cruellama21 yes !
ulkord 5 months ago
I like that this video has a good discussion going on. Good stuff people!
rohbit 6 months ago
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bluballzzz 7 months ago
@bluballzzz that's what I thought when I saw him lol
juicymeister123 6 months ago
Most government heads are psychopaths. Tony Blair, George Bush et al.
32GaugeSlug 8 months ago
@32GaugeSlug And Obama!
VieDmarde 8 months ago
@32GaugeSlug I doubt psychopaths would have the ability for any sort of long-term planning (maybe they can plan but - ) they wouldn't be able to carry out their plans and be successful in the long-term. What you're speaking of would be a narcissist, most likely.
MsPingu112 7 months ago
@MsPingu112
I think the distinction between narcissists with callous-unemotional traits (i.e. 'malignant narcissists') and psychopaths is really just one of disposition; psychopaths are more uniform in their disposition, primary psychopaths anyway. They are unfazed by things, they may have hubris but their sensitivity toward narcissistic injury is much lower than in severe narcissists.
Plus narcissists are on a continuum of normal humans, psychopaths are a discrete group.
theporksicle 6 months ago
@MsPingu112 I would say that the traits described in the video "freedom from conscience - psychopaths" would actually make for the ideal political candidate. There are many psychopaths who are able to set long-term goals of conquest. If one combines this desire for power with the traits listed in the video then they will be able to climb both the political and business ladder.
edwardsson777 6 months ago
@edwardsson777 You gotta be the biggest moron ever! You really want a person who is devoid of emotion and lacks empathy should be a politician? Unfortunately, the government is already run by borderline psychopaths who have been manipulating sheeple for so long
danimal24585 6 months ago
@danimal24585 I never said that -- I said the "freedom from conscience -- psychopaths" video points out that if you list what traits would make for a winning candidate they fit well with the psychopathic criteria. It is more a warning video, not one extolling the virtues of psychopathic personality.
edwardsson777 6 months ago
It is important to distinguish between psychopaths - who constantly demonstrate their symptoms - and other disorders. For example, Multiple Personality Disorder and Bipolar Disorder may have similar characteristics to psychopaths, but only on special occasion. For instance, a Bipolar individual may (but not necessarily will) show psychopathic traits only during a psychotic or manic episode. And unlike psychopaths, these latter disorders can be easily treated with medication and therapy.
teluia 8 months ago
this study reminds me of Raine et al
yellow0blue0red 8 months ago
Not all psychopaths are murderers or even commit crimes. It's just the ones who are tend to be the ones who are studied (they're easier to recognize and more readily available to study if they're locked away, as opposed to the manipulative psychopath who evades detection by acting normal in the general population). I don't think it's fair to generalize them this way.
Darkaero199 8 months ago
@Darkaero199
Agreed. I believe that the difference between a psychopath who uses physical violence, and one who uses mental violence, is their degree of education. With a high degree of education, a psychopath may realize that their goals of materialism and manipulative control can be obtained through the application of that education, often in a business or corporate occupation (in which there is a disproportionate amount of psychopaths compared to the general population).
teluia 8 months ago
Consider that in our evolutionary history there was often limited resources, so being able to swindle others out of their resources was a distinct advantage. The only alternative was death (from starvation), now, however, you don't need, in the West at least, to be able to con people in order to get food etc
So now they have evolved from conning necessities from others to conning them out of luxuries (sex, drugs, money etc).
theporksicle 9 months ago
@theporksicle interesting, but how does this then extend to killing your own brother, in your view? or having compulsions to engage in things that revile the rest of society (the man in this video seems to have a compulsion for drug use)
identityundisclosed6 8 months ago
@identityundisclosed6
I don't know about the man in the video's background, however the fact that he said his brother said to him, "If you ever touch my bike I'll kill you" suggests they didn't have the most amicable of relationships. Possibly he was thinking if he killed his brother there would be more for him (fewer mouths to feed).
Drug use? Stimulation probably. They can't get a natural high from love in the way normal people can, so drugs can take the place of emotional bonds.
theporksicle 8 months ago
In terms of drug/alcohol abuse, I think they are far more likely to be abusers than non-psychopaths (although I'm not 100% sure), I wonder how drugs effect them though. If they smoke cannabis or snort cocaine they are not going to 'get in touch with their feelings' or come to some sudden realisation about their evil ways and decide to make amends.
theporksicle 9 months ago
@koalajones88
I think it comes down to semantics, but you're right, their amygdalas are different to ours. 'Damaged' is a value judgement, they are just different and so their amygdala (and other parts of the brain) are designed to serve a different purpose, a powerful/reactive amygdala is unecessary for them, and would hinder them in cheating people/weighing up consequences.
True. Their lives must be very boring, emotion is the essence of life for most people.
theporksicle 9 months ago
@koalajones88
Correcting the 'defective' brain mechanisms may or may not be possible, a lot of research indicates that they are not suffering from a disorder in the way that a schizophrenic or depresed person is. They are meant to be different, their psychopathy is an evolutionary advantage. Unfortunately for the rest of us they are a problem, but their lack of concern for others is an advantage to them.
Anyone who believes there's good in everyone is very deluded.
theporksicle 9 months ago
@theporksicle if it was truly an "advantage" there would be more of them. They would probably outnumber us. Why dont they outnumber us? Because they tend to be uncooperative. So, they become less likely to do well in society!
ah93704 9 months ago
@ah93704
It is an advantage in some ways but a disadvantage in others. Being a psychopath in modern western society is advantageous, the potential rewards are huge and the potential punishments fairly light. A study by anthropologist Jane Murphy found that in Inuit communities they kill 'kunlagetas', people who are unrepentant rule breakers and cheats, so there it may not be an advantage to be one.
If they outnumbered us they would die off, only about 1% can be psychopaths.
theporksicle 9 months ago
@koalajones88
They do have a stranglehold indeed, unfortunately it seems that they are effectively intra-species predators and so here to stay. We have no more chance of defeating them than a mice does of defeating a cat. Of course, we can score the odd victory (such as when one of them is killed during the course of committing a crime), but until we can reliably identify and either kill or sterilise them we will have no way of winning.
theporksicle 9 months ago
@trakomako
Anyone with the right knowledge can identify one if you have been around them for long enough (their mask slips and you see the cold, predatory reality behind it), the question is can you recognise them before they do you serious emotional, financial or physical damage? Most people can't do that.
theporksicle 9 months ago
@trakomako
To a psychopath humans are no different to other objects, for this guy I doubt whether there would be any difference, emotionally, between killing someone (even his own brother) and throwing away a piece of clothing he no longer wears.
The worst part is he was sentenced to 5-20 years, and this documentary was first shown in 2000 so he's probably alive somewhere.
theporksicle 9 months ago