Punishment is coming to all the guilty ones who go around misleading people giving unjust orders and carrying them out, the clever ones question bush and his evil plan and they walk out and disobey him whereas the evil ones love the power to harm others unjustly, safety is only for the ones who proved themselves to be against injustice, there is no escape from the judgement of the creator Allah, the one God, the God of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed, there is no injustice in the Koran! Remember!
the discomfort of some ignorant arab hell bent on killing any white man, american or british, cannot be considered when fighting a war with the same rules with which our hands are tied!
But *why* those "ignorant arabs" want to kill soldiers from the US or the UK?
Who began spreading terror to get irans oil while Mossadeq wanted the oil fields for his own country?
Please dont get me wrong, i´m not a guy who hates america, and I like the american way of life, but I dont accept wars being fought without a 100 % backupable( Is this grammatically correct?) reason.
"Hands are tied" isn't the term to use- torturing people, both innocents and otherwise, helps those who want to sow actual terrorism and attacks against this country. When our nation uses torture, we are the bad guys. WE use torture by other nations as justification for attacking THOSE nations- doesn't that mean that violence against our nation is justified when WE use torture?
when i say "hands are tied" i mean guys on the ground being held back from their duties by governments trying to look whiter than white to other governments, and obviously wars are not fought by the same rule book any more, winning hearts and minds would be wonderful but it is not realistic when dealing with 'ignorant arabs' who have little to live for other than the promise of 70 virgins through martyrdom. illiterates surrounded by charismatic mullars out for their own benefit spells disaster!
I think the order to abduct and torture Iraqis resulted from the failure of "shock and awe." I'm sure this Administration believed the "shock and awe" campaign would work out, eventually, for the USA; but when the cruise missiles failed to decapitate the Iraqis within that first month of the War, all real hope for the campaign had to be somewhat lost among most of the war planners. I assume it was out of some of their frustration, that they lashed out with what is effectively, torture.
The plan was not to pacify the country. These people understand that terrorism like shock and awe does not promote public order but destroys it. Terrorism and torture makes the insurgency even more legitimate than it already would have been with a nation occupying another.
hey retard everyone knows that this is evil subhuman joseph mengele like behavior that cannot be justified because there "terrorists". the ultra funny thing about your argument is that these people are innocent civilians and have proven to be so. stop being so damn retarded. we're not terrorists now are we?
most of the people at abu ghraib were innocent with no evidence on them. some of those tortured were women and children. a 14 year old girl comitted suicide after being raped at abu ghraib
You are seriously misinformed about 1. The Geneve ConventionS (there wasn't just one), 2. The nature of the Islamic religion and its beliefs, 3. The definition of "fascism" and closely related, 4. why there are/were so many hated-by-the population totalitarian (fascist) dictators in many mid-eastern etc. countries, and 5. how MOST prisoners of the occupied country of Iraq are treated, even by it's desperate patriotic "insurgents" -- look into their treatment of Jessica Lynch, for example.
It's a god damn national disgrace what took place at abu ghraib !! Charle Graner should be dead and Pat Tilman should be alive,a thousand Graner can't make up one Pat Tilman,i just have respect for some soldiers more then others,there are many like Pat Tilman who fought for American freedom and America good name,but it's soldiers like Graner and his lover Lynndie that gave true American soldiers bad names.
And don't forget the people at the top who diagrammed and authorized the torture, Gen. Jeffery Miller for starters - - - and it goes ALL THE WAY to the top. Meaning at least Rumsfeld.
well terrorist like to idont know hack off toes figers umm pulling out toenails beat u with garden hoses burn you pull out teeth. oh and theres th things they do to your penis and balls and god help you if u r a woman. so iff we splash some water on them or let them play with puppies i think its pretty nice. plus u knew what you were signing up for its not like hey im a interragator im going to sip tee with some people.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I can bet my house that you would break sooner than anyone else. Loudmouths like you always do.
This guy is full of shit he was an E-4
he doesn't know shit
freddymagick 2 years ago
Punishment is coming to all the guilty ones who go around misleading people giving unjust orders and carrying them out, the clever ones question bush and his evil plan and they walk out and disobey him whereas the evil ones love the power to harm others unjustly, safety is only for the ones who proved themselves to be against injustice, there is no escape from the judgement of the creator Allah, the one God, the God of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed, there is no injustice in the Koran! Remember!
alialive2008 3 years ago
@alialive2008 terrioist pussy
fpsmarinecorp 2 years ago
the discomfort of some ignorant arab hell bent on killing any white man, american or british, cannot be considered when fighting a war with the same rules with which our hands are tied!
gazzlerazzle 4 years ago
But *why* those "ignorant arabs" want to kill soldiers from the US or the UK?
Who began spreading terror to get irans oil while Mossadeq wanted the oil fields for his own country?
Please dont get me wrong, i´m not a guy who hates america, and I like the american way of life, but I dont accept wars being fought without a 100 % backupable( Is this grammatically correct?) reason.
JackTheMoe 4 years ago
"Hands are tied" isn't the term to use- torturing people, both innocents and otherwise, helps those who want to sow actual terrorism and attacks against this country. When our nation uses torture, we are the bad guys. WE use torture by other nations as justification for attacking THOSE nations- doesn't that mean that violence against our nation is justified when WE use torture?
Turtleproof 3 years ago
when i say "hands are tied" i mean guys on the ground being held back from their duties by governments trying to look whiter than white to other governments, and obviously wars are not fought by the same rule book any more, winning hearts and minds would be wonderful but it is not realistic when dealing with 'ignorant arabs' who have little to live for other than the promise of 70 virgins through martyrdom. illiterates surrounded by charismatic mullars out for their own benefit spells disaster!
gazzlerazzle 3 years ago
I think the order to abduct and torture Iraqis resulted from the failure of "shock and awe." I'm sure this Administration believed the "shock and awe" campaign would work out, eventually, for the USA; but when the cruise missiles failed to decapitate the Iraqis within that first month of the War, all real hope for the campaign had to be somewhat lost among most of the war planners. I assume it was out of some of their frustration, that they lashed out with what is effectively, torture.
WPS2007b 4 years ago
The plan was not to pacify the country. These people understand that terrorism like shock and awe does not promote public order but destroys it. Terrorism and torture makes the insurgency even more legitimate than it already would have been with a nation occupying another.
Turtleproof 3 years ago
herman goehring doesn't tortured. stop letting propagandists like bush install the ideal that torture is acceptable into your head
rOaCh2000 4 years ago
no it onlt points to how retarded YOU are. you americanist slob. herman goehring wasn't tortured. what's your point exactly.
rOaCh2000 4 years ago
hey retard everyone knows that this is evil subhuman joseph mengele like behavior that cannot be justified because there "terrorists". the ultra funny thing about your argument is that these people are innocent civilians and have proven to be so. stop being so damn retarded. we're not terrorists now are we?
rOaCh2000 4 years ago
most of the people at abu ghraib were innocent with no evidence on them. some of those tortured were women and children. a 14 year old girl comitted suicide after being raped at abu ghraib
rOaCh2000 4 years ago
nazis weren't even tortured you retard. not even the japs were tortured
rOaCh2000 4 years ago
You are seriously misinformed about 1. The Geneve ConventionS (there wasn't just one), 2. The nature of the Islamic religion and its beliefs, 3. The definition of "fascism" and closely related, 4. why there are/were so many hated-by-the population totalitarian (fascist) dictators in many mid-eastern etc. countries, and 5. how MOST prisoners of the occupied country of Iraq are treated, even by it's desperate patriotic "insurgents" -- look into their treatment of Jessica Lynch, for example.
RBoon 4 years ago
This man is telling lies if he was an interrogater he would not be lower enlisted
freddymagick 2 years ago
It's a god damn national disgrace what took place at abu ghraib !! Charle Graner should be dead and Pat Tilman should be alive,a thousand Graner can't make up one Pat Tilman,i just have respect for some soldiers more then others,there are many like Pat Tilman who fought for American freedom and America good name,but it's soldiers like Graner and his lover Lynndie that gave true American soldiers bad names.
KhmerSerey1 4 years ago
And don't forget the people at the top who diagrammed and authorized the torture, Gen. Jeffery Miller for starters - - - and it goes ALL THE WAY to the top. Meaning at least Rumsfeld.
RBoon 4 years ago
This guy is a wussy
demented132004 4 years ago
PSYOP teams adhere to a specific method of "persuation", outlined by the GC, The Army Field Manuel and JAG....Going beyond that is human cruelty.
jacofan1 4 years ago
well terrorist like to idont know hack off toes figers umm pulling out toenails beat u with garden hoses burn you pull out teeth. oh and theres th things they do to your penis and balls and god help you if u r a woman. so iff we splash some water on them or let them play with puppies i think its pretty nice. plus u knew what you were signing up for its not like hey im a interragator im going to sip tee with some people.
bagfullofclothes 5 years ago
i agree. lol they are whiners
micshaz 4 years ago
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I can bet my house that you would break sooner than anyone else. Loudmouths like you always do.
aarrcchhoonntt 4 years ago
USA - A beacon of civilization (NOT!)
electrocamel 5 years ago