The Story of a True Witch, Who Left it All Behind!! - Part 2

[lookingup82]

Go!! Better than I've heard from any preacher. (Witches don't believe in Satan or HELL)

[joel10000a]

@lookingup82 Not believing in it is not going to change reality - THEY DO EXIST, AND all witches will go there, unless they come to Jesus and repent, and become Born Again!! NO IFS ANDS OR BUTS!!!

[lookingup82]

@joel10000a I'm with you Joe 100%. I have a pagan/witch in the family. I get called intolerant, closed minded,etc-you know the drill...but I stand my ground. Hard to do at family events like Christmas Dinner when it's 4 against 1

....but I'll get hurt telling the truth...I won't back down. I waited for their comments.

[joel10000a]

@lookingup82 Good for you!! Batterings come all the time on this video, but I delete most all opposing views, because their views are totally false, and have no bearing on the truth, and I have posted this video for only one reason - to help people find Jesus and become Born Again!

[ashleyyxxwood]

I'm fine.. I've never been with your god, and I'm perfectly fine.

[joel10000a]

@ashleyyxxwood Eventually life will catch up with you, and you will want to seek God! When you do, just diligently seek Him, and He will reveal Himself to you. If you are totally serious about finding God, the Bible tells us He will reveal Himself!

[swdee2003]

I was a church going christian for over 20 years but the hypocrysy and slander that was going on put me off. I studied the pagan roots of christianity because that's where it all comes from folks!

I have been a christian witch now for 5 years (yes you can combine the 2) and I still feel God's holy spirit the same as I used to nothings changed. I have a peaceful life.

Evil spirits were just ancient people misunderstanding mental ilness.

Give me proof of them and I'll believe you! Go on.....

[joel10000a]

@swdee2003 The proof is that they now have control of you!!! You were never Born Again in the first place when you were THOUGHT you were a Christian! You never really were a TRUE Christian in the first place! The Holy Spirit has never been a part of you because the Holy Spirit will not allow demonic spirits to come into the spirit of a truly Born Again Christian!

[swdee2003]

@joel10000a I asked for proof and you have failed to provide.

In what way for over 20 years was I not a "true christian"? I believed wholeheartedly what you believe and was filled with the holy spirit, spoke in tongues, baptised etc. I was very dedicated.

Please tell me what constitutes a true christian I'd love to know!

[joel10000a]

@swdee2003 Jesus said in the Bible that unless a person become Born Again, he CANNOT see the Kingdom of God! So becoming Born Again is the only way to become a true Christian! You must have studied the Bible enough in 20 years to know you can't combine Christianity with ANYTHING else! Where were you when this was preached? Didn't you ever hear this before? I said the proof is with you, because it's obvious demons have taken charge of your life.

[joel10000a]

@swdee2003 So if you really were indeed Born Again in the past, and you have walked away from it, Revelation, Chapter 3, verses 3-6, will come into play, and you WILL have your name erased from the Book of Life!!! Wake up before it is too late for you! Hell is waiting for you right now, if you don't repent and come back to Jesus! Believe me this is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

[lookingup82]

@swdee2003 THey'll be like loan sharks...when YOU want to stop and they don't-they'll show themselves to you- good luck. And u can't combine the 2.Jesus himself said u can't serve 2 masters- one or the other....

[4playpua]

'as in adam all die, even so in Chris ALL shall be made alive', ALL! not just Christians

[joel10000a]

@4playpua No, sorry, but you are wrong. Jesus came to set us ALL free from the bondage of satan, BUT you must accept Jesus by becoming Born Again, or as Jesus said in the Bible, you CANNOT see the Kingdom of God! Go read John 3:1-21 (read all those verses to get the context of what was being talked about). Part of becoming Born Again is promising God you will follow Jesus, by following the teachings in the Bible! Do you think EVERYONE is following Jesus???

[ChildOfGod389]

@4playpua Keyword IN CHRIST sweetie. That is a follower of Christ, a disciple, a CHRISTIAN ;)

[rcatstott]

i was a christian and i did beleven jesus... and i went to church.. but i was made fun of there and wen in to a depression, crying,cutting,and drinking was all i did, until i found wicca, made me feel at peace..... <3

[joel10000a]

@rcatstott Have you commented before, perhaps on one of the videos I have posted about cutters and cutting?

[ChildOfGod389]

@rcatstott You weren't spiritually grounded in Christ and you did not really know Him, that is when demonic spirits took over and you yielded to them. I will be praying for you.

[iambcuzofu]

Thank God for the 700 club! People's live's are being changed!

[Karrdeh]

its funny how you keep threatening with the eternal flames of hell to scare people into this faith. Why dont you help people by preaching about Gods love, instead of inferno, pain and satan?

[joel10000a]

@Karrdeh YouTubers do respond to my type talk. I have many opportunities to send many people from all over the world, my Born Again information. Did you know Jesus talked more about hell than about heaven, in the Bible - go check it out! There are more verses, which Jesus spoke, in the New Testament regarding hell than heaven!

[ChildOfGod389]

@Karrdeh Both are important. Jesus preached about hell more than anything in the Bible.

[thepixieluv4]

why would someone who helps someone go to hell? and what kind of fatherly god would send his children to a place like that?

i honeslty don't see why people are so against wicca.... i don't know about covens, but all the wiccans i have met (includeing myself) don't want to force people into paganism... pretty much we just want people to stop trying to convert us....

[joel10000a]

@thepixieluv4 The reason Christians are against it, is because the Bible says that ONLY via Jesus can a person get to heaven. The Bible also says that all other forms of religion (except for Judaism) are actually deceptions from satan to keep people from finding Jesus, and the one and only true way to heaven! The devil gets back at God by trying all he can to cause EVERYONE to go to hell, because man is God's greatest creation, and that's the devil's best way to get back at God.

[joel10000a]

@thepixieluv4 According to the Bible NO ONE will get to heaven unless he has first become Born Again, while he is still alive in his human body. After your body dies, it is too late - your eternal destination is set at the moment of the death of your body - either heaven or hell. God didn't create hell for man, but for satan and his demons (the fallen angels). That's why Jesus came in the flesh - to set us free from satan's control! We become satan's property the moment we commit our first sin!

[joel10000a]

@thepixieluv4 AND we remain satan's property, unless and until we become Born Again! No one or nothing else has paid the price to buy your eternal spirit back from satan, but Jesus! That's why via Jesus is the ONLY way to heaven! Unless you get your sin-debt paid, you will remain satan's property, and you WILL be taken to hell by satan, NOT by God! Satan keeps you into eternity because no one has paid the price to set you free from him!

[joel10000a]

@thepixieluv4 Message me if you want me to send you some detailed information which will tell you what becoming Born Again is all about!

[rcatstott]

i was a christen once.... but i never felt like i belonged i was made fun of in our church cause i guess they didnt like me for me. and i felt lost and afrade untill i found wicca it made me feel like im i belong...blessed be

[joel10000a]

@rcatstott TRUE Christians would NOT make fun of you. Would you tell me what church you attended? I mean the denomination - like Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, etc.

[rcatstott]

@joel10000a the mormon church

[joel10000a]

@rcatstott I'm sorry to say it, but Mormon's are NOT Born Again, and therefore they will NOT get to heaven unless they do find the truth and become Born Again, outside of the Mormon Church! Jesus said it Himself, right in the Bible, that unless a person becomes Born Again, he CANNOT see the Kingdom of God! Message me if you want to know more about what becoming Born Again is all about!

[GodLovesUs100]

@rcatstott Well according to 1 John 2:19, you were not a true Christian. I don't know what church you went to but what you described does not sound like the fruit of the Spirit a true Christian would have. Besides, people are people, people will sin and make mistakes.Jesus Christ, however, is the Prince of Peace and knowing him IS eternal life, there is no other way to be made right with.For all have sinned, Jesus alone paid the fine for sin and rose again.He is Real and I pray he will save you

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 Go read it for yourself in the Bible - Jesus said you MUST be Born Again! If you don't know exactly what that means, message me, and I will give you the details. Here is the reference in the Bible:

John 3:1-21. Read all of this to get the context. Jesus wasn't kidding!

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a Yes, I know people must be born again. And born again people will never fall away.

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 How do you mean "born again people will never fall away"? Are you saying you believe "once saved - always saved"?

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a Sure am.And there are many texts to prove it.Like 1 John 2:19 for example, which says that those who "leave us" were "never of us" b/c if they had been they "would have continued"...why? B/c true Christians persevere until the end.Another great verse is Romans 8:30 which says all those he[God] justified(saved or declared righteous) he glorified.So therefore all those who have been saved are promised glorification. If God were to take away someone's salvation, he would have to

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 Sorry, but I think you are totally wrong. There are just too many places in the New Testament where it says we must hold on to what we believe until the end. And what about Revelation 3, where it plainly infers we can have our names erased from the Book of Life, if we don't continue to believe as we did when we first believed! It's not one burst of faith that saves you, but ONGOING FAITH for as long as you live! God is not going to FORCE anyone to stay with him!

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a Yes, we should do that! And true Christians do preserve until the end! Revelation 3 does not imply it, it is just a promise that a true Christian will not have his name blotted out. So what is a sign that someone is genuinely converted? Perseverance. The Parable of the seed sown on rocky ground is a perfect demonstration of someone who thinks themselves to be Christian, but is not rooted in Christ, therefore they are false converts and according to John 15, will be cast into

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 You are not interpreting that sower parable correctly. If it puts down ANY roots, it means the person was indeed Born Again for a little while. If the seed sprouts, it means it is putting down roots! When a seed sprouts it both puts up a shoot and puts down roots!

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a No, that is not true. The seed is just the word of God.Whenever someone hears the gospel, a seed is planted in them.Sometimes the devil takes that away, sometimes the cares of the world choke the person, sometimes the person makes a profession but is not rooted in Christ and falls away and then there are those who hear the word and get saved.

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 Sorry, but you are wrong. What are you doing on a video about witchcraft anyway? Why does that interest you?

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a I'm not wrong, what i am explaining is biblical and historical Christianity. I can even quote early church fathers if the scriptures alone are not enough for you. And I was watching a series of videos that lead to this one, it is always good to hear how the Lord saves people out of the occult.

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 We will soon see who is right!

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a Yes, and I hope the Lord will open your eyes to see that Christianity is not and has never been a man-centered thing were it is all about our will.God does what he wills and we are his clay.He moves for his own glory and those he has saved he has predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ, we are his workmanship, created in Christ for good works, THAT GOD PREPARED BEFOREHAND that we would walk in them.Read the Bible dear friend, it does not just say Christians might obey

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 God is not to be toyed with. The Bible says God does not change. He will shower His love on those who obey Him, but He does not fool around with those who do not! He is patient, but his patience has a limit! He killed Israelites in the Old Testament for not doing things properly! He, likewise is not going to molly coddle people forever who keep disobeying Him, after they become Born Again!

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a the fire. If someone has truly been saved of God, they will be kept by his power as well.Do you not believe the same God who saves us has the power to keep us from completely falling away? This is not about our attempts to keep up with God, but he, as our Good Shepard, will loose NONE of which the Father has given him.

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 God gave us free will, and He will not override that! He is NOT going to force us to stay with Him if we change our minds! He surely doesn't want people in heaven who changed their minds, or He might have another satan on his hands! Jesus will spew the lukewarm out of his mouth - I believe this means the rapture, and it lines up with the parable of the 10 virgins! I believe these two teachings mean that lukewarm, Born Again Christians will miss the rapture!

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a Good point with the story of 10 virgins. The 5 virgins with oil[the true Christians] are prepared, the virgins with no oil[false Christians] are not.That is why in Matt 7, Jesus will tell some people who think themselves to be Christian to depart for he 'NEVER KNEW THEM'...not knew them at one time and then un-saved them. Christ also said that those who come to him he will not cast out, was he lying? No offense to you, but the type of Christianity you're putting forth is

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 Absolutely the 5 foolish virgins are Born Again! They had OIL in their lamps (meaning they had the Holy Spirit!).

If you want to argue this further, please message me. I will not go further with this here. We are just confusing others.

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a ...one of the most dangerous and hazardous heresies around today and it is causing so many people to falsely believe themselves to be saved.And what doctrine is that you ask? The one that someone who has truly been ransomed by the Lord can somehow escape his Lordship and that we can have Jesus as our Savior but optionally choose him to be Lord. I suggest you read John MacArthur's book "Slave" to see the true relationship of a Christian to the Lord.

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 Of course Jesus is Lord! Jesus IS MY Lord! The Bible says that a person cannot say that unless he is enabled by the Holy Spirit! You are correct, what you said IS a false teaching! BTW, what denomination are you? Please message me your answer if you want to continue with this.

[GodLovesUs100]

@joel10000a ...un-atone for their already paid for sins, un-regenerate them, un-justify them, un-sanctify them, and take back what he promised to them(something God never does). So the question here is "how do I know I am a true Christian"? Go to 1 John for that. Many critics of eternal security like to claim it gives people a license to not sin, NOT SO, b/c those who continue on in sin, according to 1 John, show they have never been converted and given a new nature

[joel10000a]

@GodLovesUs100 I'm not talking about someone who continues on in sin, I am talking about someone who walks with God for a while, and then turns back. The parable of of the sower plainly shows that - in the part where the seed is sown on rocky ground and it starts to take root (indicating that the person was indeed saved), but it then died after a little while!

[TomandSueHughes]

the bible was writen so many times in so many languiges so the bible in all forms IS NOT REAL PRASE THE MOTHER BLESSED BE!!!!

[joel10000a]

@TomandSueHughes Sorry, but you are totally deceived. We ALL become the property of satan (we never really realize it), the first time we sin as a child, when we were to the point where we were able to tell right from wrong, and we chose wrong. Forever after, we remain satan's property on into eternity, UNLESS we can be set free from his control! Jesus is the ONLY ONE who has paid the price to buy us back from satan! Message me if you want to know how to be set free! This is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

[jezabell1994]

@joel10000a to say we are all a product of satan is such a strong accusation to make and i may not know what we are and if you truly think that maybe you are...i read my horoscope and i'm fascinated by the things i don't know i'll spend a few months looking up witchcraft or ghosts and it's my choice and if jesus is the only way then what about Muslims, Buddhists or the Hindu will they all go to hell because they don't have a Jesus?

i don't want to insult you but that's how i feel

[joel10000a]

@jezabell1994 That's exactly what the Bible says in around 400 different places - that via Jesus, is the ONLY way to heaven. All other so called "gods" are false gods, according to the Bible, and they are all instigated by satan, to keep people deceived so they will not find the one and only true way to heaven! This is all in the Bible!

[jezabell1994]

@joel10000a i've read the bible but i don't think it holds all the answers and the bible was written in latin in the midevile times when most people couldn't read or wright and the church could twist it to say what they wanted and i happen to think they twisted it to the point where it's just a story so i take the bible like a grain of salt and i don't hang off every word

[joel10000a]

@jezabell1994 Did you know that in the Book of John, the Bible says that Jesus IS the Word of God, so it follows that if Jesus is perfect, then the Word of God (the Bible) ALSO must be perfect!

Anyway, who is wise enough to tell what to believe and what to discard from the Bible? NO we must take it all as the absolute truth, or none of it! Jesus is the only one who has paid the price to buy us back from satan! Did you know we are ALL the property of satan, from the time we first sinned?

[joel10000a]

@jezabell1994 Only Jesus can bring us back to God. Message me if you want to know how this can be!

[joel10000a]

@TomandSueHughes Jesus is my only hope, and He is also YOUR only hope to escape hell!

[rcatstott]

@TomandSueHughes i agree

[rainidey1]

God loves EVERYONE, the sinner and the saint! Jesus died for EVERYONE, the sinner and the saint! There is eternal life for EVERYONE! You will either live it in Heaven or Hell! It is your choice. "I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE, no one cometh to the Father except by me." -Jesus Christ

[xxxRAISORxxx]

ok your so called "god" is discusted with people like you..i am an ex christain and am now fallowing the peaceful path of wicca and paganism...and what ive learned in christanity is that you shall not preach as if you were god..you do not decide if ppl will go to hell or heaven for what they believe...your pretending to be someone your not..which is a very big sin......there were only 10 things to it...and i left christyanity because i was not welcomed into it and i found so much pace in wicca

[joel10000a]

@xxxRAISORxxx Well you can believe what you want, because God gave us all the freedom to choose Him or reject Him! The Bible (not ME) plainly says that via Jesus is the ONLY way to heaven, so if you are trying to get there by any other way but by faith and trust in Jesus, by BECOMING BORN AGAIN AND STAYING THAT WAY BY KEEPING ON BELIEVING AND TRUSTING IN JESUS, you will NOT make heaven your home. The Bible tells us we have two choices - LIFE AND DEATH, and it plainly tells us to choose LIFE!

[joel10000a]

@xxxRAISORxxx Choosing LIFE, simply means you MUST become Born Again. Choosing death, is choosing ANY OTHER form of worship, which will cause you to spend eternity DYING with the devil in the lake of fire, but your eternal body will NEVER be consumed in the flames! THAT'S THE TRUTH OF THE UNIVERSE! Take it or leave it, and it looks like you have left LIFE!

[akiramari]

@xxxRAISORxxx I really have to comment on this I haven't even watched this vid just so everyone knows. To me there is no such thing as an ex-christian. There are alot of people that say they are but are not. Someone who is committed to Christ doesn't just walk away, otherwise, they never really knew Him.

[joel10000a]

@akiramari Sorry, but I think you are totally wrong. Go read Revelation 3, and you will see that it is implied that if you don't continue in what you believe when you first got saved, that you will have your name erased from the Book of Life. Also there are several places in the New Testament where it says you have to hold on to what you believe to get to heaven! Nothing can take your salvation away from you, BUT you can give it back! God doesn't want any further rebels in heaven!

[BenjaminInWonderland]

You people who take the christian religion too far are horrible. The Wicca Region along with many others are not ALL Satanic. You can have peace many other ways, with many other religions. There are so many other religions with many more people that were started a long time ago. What about Buddhism. Buddhism has so many more people than Christians.

[joel10000a]

@BenjaminInWonderland Where do you think the power comes from to do the supernatural feats in Wicca? From SATAN, of course, and CERTAINLY NOT FROM GOD! You wiccans are so deceived - satan has you so blinded to the truth! Jesus came to set you free from satan, and you go deeper and deeper with satan! Wake up before it becomes too late for you!

[mahwajuly86]

@BenjaminInWonderland Oh dear, anything which is not from God (aka Jesus christ) is from the evil one. It might come to you in an obvious way or in disguise but the disguise is much more common cause it can fool many. You see the devil will try by all means to pull many people down, just so he steals God's free gift of salvation and eternal life in Heaven. Just anything that will cause people to not believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven, even if it doesn't look evil!

[joel10000a]

@mahwajuly86 I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. The devil doesn't steal people from God, because he already owns us from the moment we commit our first sin as a child, and are able to understand that we should not do that sin, but do it anyway. Forever (eternally) after, we are the property of satan, UNLESS we take advantage of our one and only "get out of hell free" card - JESUS! He is the only one who paid the price to buy us back from satan!

[mahwajuly86]

@joel10000a Yea, I noticed that you didnt understand what I was saying. I said the devil steals the opportunity for many to come to Christ by blinding their eyes through these kinds of spiritual practices. As a result many dont accept God's free gift of salvation and eternal life because the devil has distracted them form knowing the truth that Jesus is the only way to heaven!

So I didnt say the devil steals people but instead their chance to salvation through distractions like witchcraft.

[joel10000a]

@mahwajuly86 Satan has the legal right to us, because of the original sin of Adam in the Garden of Eden. When Adam sinned he forfeited his dominion over all the earth, to satan, AND we are all born with that inherited sin nature of Adam, built into us, so it is impossible for a human to live without sin, except for Jesus, who was the only one in human flesh to live without sin! That's why satan had no right to take Jesus to hell (which he did when Jesus' body died on the cross)

[joel10000a]

@mahwajuly86 That's why it was perfectly legal for God the Father and the Holy Spirit to 'BUST" Jesus out of hell, at His resurrection!

No, you are totally wrong, and you will pay with eternity, when it comes time for you to die, unless you repent and turn to Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, and become Born Again! THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER WAY TO GET TO HEAVEN! This is the truth of the universe - and will apply to YOU and EVERYONE else, whether you believe it or not!!!

[mahwajuly86]

@joel10000a Honestly, I dont understand your comment. I am wrong and I will pay with eternity? I dont think I said anything wrong.

And yes, you are right. Jesus is the only way to heaven and I am saved (Born again), not by my works but by Grace. And I know its the truth because the Spirit in me assures me about this everyday, as I move and live as it tells me to. And we know and trust that one day the Lord will take all those who are his, since we dont belong to the world! Stay Blessed.

[DruidDarkwitch]

Hi joe10000a I am not going to hell because I don't beleive, I love MY GOD and GODESS

I have been on this path from the age of 17 and now I am 24 and nothing but good as been around me. I am blessed to be on this path.

[joel10000a]

@DruidDarkwitch You are being totally deceived - just wait and see! You will NOT make it to heaven if you continue on this path! The Bible plainly says so, and the Bible IS the Word of THE one and only God who created the universe! There are NOT multiple Gods, only the one and only true God of the Bible!

[DruidDarkwitch]

What is this man on??

I am a Witch and I love it, there is no black or white magic, I don't believe in Satan and I am NOT!!! a Satanist, I am in a Coven I practice among other Witches and it is the best path I ever chosen to walk. My Goddess and My God loves me for what I am.

Blessed Be!!!

[joel10000a]

@DruidDarkwitch You do realize you are hell bound, I hope! Your goddess and "god" can do nothing to keep you out of hell! They are just totally deceiving you, because they are not "gods" or "goddesses", but in reality they are demons deceiving you!

[patherpanchu]

God said 'My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge". Those out there who claim magick, and wicca, whatever, are natural and its not satanic, well wrong it is that exactly. God is a jealous God, who will have none before him. The worship of nature, elements, spirits, energies, is all wrong, as well as idolatry. And who do u think controls the power given u in disguise, SATAN , not Mother or the earth!! Satan cannot stand mankind so to worship him is simply ignorant and dangerous

[patherpanchu]

The Worst Demons! The Fallen Angels are not Demons, any one of them would be The Worst Demon. Satan, Beelzubub, Lucifer a fallen angel is the Devil. The angels are locked in darkness until the day of judgement. The Legions of demons on earth are part of Satans army along with Sorcerers, Witches, Mediums etc.

[joel10000a]

@patherpanchu Where do you get these ideas from, about the demons? I am not saying you are wrong, because I think it is also possible that the demons are the spirits of the creatures that populated the earth before the flood, or perhaps some of both fallen angels and those creatures which were the "giants" in the land. I'm not dogmatic about either view.

[patherpanchu]

The Word of God clearly, clearly states that those who do not repent and worship the Lord Jesus will indeed be cast into the Lake of Fire to burn foreeeever! And the angels that rebelled with Satan are locked in darkness not roaming the earth. If this were so we'd be in ALOT of trouble.

[joel10000a]

The WORST demons were locked in chains, but the remainder are here on earth with us until Jesus comes back to reign on earth for 1000 years. At that point the devil and these earth bound demons will be cast into a pit for that 1000 years. So life on earth then, will be total peace, without the total evil influence of satan and his demons. After the 1000 years reign of Christ will be the end of time, where there will be a new heaven and a new earth! The old heaven and earth will pass away!

[ambitiion]

This guy is right with the demon and satan and witchcraft thing.

However, the people and spirits who refuse to change their bad ways and refuse to obey God are thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is a place where bad things are 'burnt off', basically gotten rid of.

God loves all his creation. Although, he has to get rid of the unrighteous to spare the lives of the righteous. He would never send any of the unrighteous to a place where they are tormented for eternity.

[joel10000a]

What bible have you been reading? You are completely misled!!!

Don't you under stand the words "forever and ever"???

Here's what the Book of Revelation has to say!

Rev 14:11

11 And the smoke from their burning pain will rise forever and ever. There will be no rest, day or night, for those who worship the beast and his idol or who get the mark of his name."

NCV

[joel10000a]

Rev 20:10

10 And Satan, who tricked them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur with the beast and the false prophet. There they will be punished day and night forever and ever.

NCV

Rev 20:11-15

The Great White Throne Judgment 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.

[joel10000a]

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.

13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.

14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

[joel10000a]

15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

NKJV

[joel10000a]

Nowhere does the Bible say that there is a time limit to the punishment in the Lake of Fire! The only time reference is "forever and ever".

[TheWICCACHANNEL]

magic is spelled magick.and i hate the 700 club.there is no white,black magick.and we dont believe in satan.witches dont play with oujia boards.there are no demons,just people's dark and negitive side.and there is no lake of fire.hell is descibed as the gave.and my god loves me so much,he and she would never send me to a horrible place because they are true love.untained...

[joel10000a]

Satan has you totally deceived into what you believe! BELIEVE ME, the Bible is REAL, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are REAL, Angels are REAL, AND the devil and his demons are totally REAL! You are following satan and he has hidden that from you! The Bible tells us that EVERYONE is following satan until they come to Jesus and become Born Again. Adam and Eve did that for us. We are ALL the property of satan, at birth, and if we do not accept Jesus, we follow satan right into hell!

[crimsonmage15]

Magick is a lifeforce, its not "Black Magic" or "Witchcraft" its our human right to do it, otherwise we couldnt use and manipulate it. This man has a one track mind and cant see the flip side, and it ever so pisses me off to call everything "The Devil" he sounds like the mum from the film "the waterboy". That is All.

[joel10000a]

You keep on believing like you are believing, and you will find out someday that this man is totally correct!

[crimsonmage15]

And what if im correct, i mean, if after all, (if god was real) what would happen if you were meant to use magick, and you get up the heaven and he just says "I put it there for a reason" Ok, if god exsists then why is magick there? and dont say "Satan" did it because at the end of the day everyone does a little bit of magick, you dont do it purposely, but u still do it. On that note, you are still screwed my one tackminded aquaintence.

[joel10000a]

The main difference, is that if you are right, and I am wrong, then I don't have anything to worry about in eternity! BUT if I am right, and you are wrong, they you will have hell to pay for all eternity, and that is not just sitting around in a cell, that is pure torment - the worst torment you could ever imagine - for ever and ever and ever!

I have fire insurance, what do you have??

What do you mean we all do a little bit of magick, and we don't do it purposefully?

[crimsonmage15]

Ok, well yes you may have fire insurance, but i have life insurance. One thing tho, isnt science a 'magick' form, it helps us progress, much like magick does. So doesnt that make you and me, right now, practising a form of magick.

And yes, we all do a little bit of magick PM me for details

[joel10000a]

What's with your spelling of magic?

[crimsonmage15]

"Magic" is the way to spell it for stories, fiction, or people who dont realise that its real. Magick is the main way to spell it if you know the truth

[joel10000a]

Oh, I agree with you, I know it's real, but it's power is from satan, and NOT from God - the God of the Bible! There is only one God and one devil, with many angels for God and demons for the devil. The number of angels is greater than the number of demons. So if you are indeed interested in, or actually working (as you say) magick, then you are working for the devil, and he will destroy you in the end.

[crimsonmage15]

but, it doesnt origin from the devil, its just there Joel, its there for us to manipulate and use, to help us progress. The devil will not destroy me because the devil doesnt exsist, i agree that demons do however. And its not there power either, its our power, its lifes power. I'm sory Joel, but as much as you say that im working with the devil i know your wrong. there is no demon inside me controlling me and giving me power. If anything ive become a better person because of magick.

[joel10000a]

If demons are real, why isn't the devil also real? Demons are simply fallen angels that follow Lucifer when he got kicked out of heaven! God created hell for the devil and his demons, NOT for humans. That's why He sent Jesus in the flesh, to save us from being the property of satan! If we refuse that payment Jesus made for us to buy us back from satan, then there is ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER WAY to escape hell! This is all in the Bible. I am not just making it up!!!

[MrPoppostare]

Witch craft is not evil, it's like a weapon a sword if you will, it matters how you use it.good is good, bad is bad.

[joel10000a]

Of course it's evil - it's the devil's territory! The Bible tells us to totally avoid all contact with the occult, and witchcraft is one practice of the occult that is specifically mentioned to avoid!!

[holylight12]

These people are stupid and ignorant. They haven't done any real research about Wicca and that is very distasteful.

[joel10000a]

No research is necessary, but to reseach the Bible, and you will find that what you are doing with Wicca will NOT get you to heaven! You are just totally wasting your time. Wake up before it is too late for you!

[DancingRabbit52]

I am free and I do have peace in my heart. Considerably more freedom and peace than I had when I was a Christian. Life is not about winning the battle between good and evil but rather finding harmony and balence. I have found that.

[joel10000a]

If you were to die right now, what do you think would happen to you?

[DancingRabbit52]

Well, I would be dead. I hope to spend some time in Summerland preparing from my next incarnation but if death means extinction, I'm cool with that. Death is neither evil nor scarey. It is part of life. Neither of us has experienced it yet so neither of us can say with certainty what it is like.

[joel10000a]

You are right, but I put my hope and faith in that what the Bible says is indeed true, and that it is the truth of the universe. That's not religion, that's believing in what I believe to be the one and only truth of our existence. If I live a good life as a result of following the teachings in the Bible, and I am wrong, then I have lost nothing. HOWEVER, if I am right, and the Bible is indeed the total truth, then you are going to suffer eternal punishment, if you stay like your are.

[runehealing]

One - lifer's. You're all so strange. Why do you need an intermediary to connect with the divine source? What prevents you from connecting with the source of all creation yourself? I am a pagan (asatru)and not only do I live a very happy and peaceful life, I have never needed a savior. You all are very frightening to me.

[joel10000a]

Truly Born Again Christians pray directly to God the Father, in the name of Jesus! So we do talk directly to God. I am sorry for you, that you don't need a savior, because without Jesus as your savior, you are lost in this life and the next. You will not be admitted into heaven while still carrying your sin load, which can only be forgiven by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior!

[joel10000a]

Message me if you want to find out how to give your heart and life to Jesus, and become truly Born Again!

[runehealing]

Well, I am most certainly not lost. You go to God through the presence of another. It is I who feels sorry for you. I guess we'll just have to feel pity for one another.

[joel10000a]

If I am wrong and you are right, what have I to lose?

BUT if I am right and you are wrong, you are indeed in big trouble, right?

[DancingRabbit52]

No. Life is not a game. Life is life. IF you are wrong and I am right and I agree to live my life believing wrongly then I waste my life. I either die having wasted my one and only precious life or I die having wasted a chance to learn and progress and have to do it all over again.

[joel10000a]

No, if you are wrong, and I am right, you will continually perish in everlasting torment in hell, not because God sent you there, but because you rejected Jesus, who is the only one who can forgive your sins and save you from hell. It's your choice! If you reject Jesus, you reject both Jesus and God the Father. That's what the Bible plainly says.

[KillaJint]

How are we supposed to beileve that there is a heaven?

[joel10000a]

The Bible says no one will have an excuse on judgment day, by saying he didn't know there was a God. The Bible says all you have to do is look at nature and at the stars to understand that there had to be a creator of all this. The Bible also says that if you diligently seek God, that you will find him, because He will reveal Himself to you!!

[joel10000a]

Message me if you want to know how to find Jesus and God the Father!!

[Sean117Ply]

How does it take you away from Christ for goodness sake. Hmm I am really starting to wonder why I am Christian. Satans at the root of everything, everything is evil, blah blah blah. all these silly games are satanic, hmmmmmmmm

[joel10000a]

You claim to be Christian, and you don't know what satan's goals and objectives are?? Do you consider yourself a Born Again Christian? What is your denomination?

[HonourTheLORD]

amen i agree 100 percent!!!!

[Magician12345]

god chooses to throw people in the lake of fire based off of HIS law. im not guna be bullied and im not going to follow someone who believes in "if your not with me, your against me". he can CHOOSE not to torture me any time he likes.

[joel10000a]

God did not create hell for man, but for the devil and his demons. BUT if man rejects God, he will follow the devil right into hell. That's all in the Bible. Message me if you want to find out how to find God and Jesus and be placed on the path to heaven!!

[alexeykh]

There is a consensus among many saints that on the day of Judgment each soul will instinctively know where it belongs. If you have continually made choices in your life to separate yourself from God, He does not force you to be with Him eternally.

[joel10000a]

A person MUST be Born Again, according to what Jesus said Himself, in the Bible, or you will never see heaven. But you are right, even a Born Again person can turn his back on God and have his name erased from the Book of Life! God doesn't want people in heaven that don't want to serve him!

[alexeykh]

@joel10000a Let's not overly concentrate on 1 verse.

[joel10000a]

What verse are you talking about?

[alexeykh]

@joel10000a Why did you bring up what we MUST do (in reply to my post) when it seems we are trying to convince people not to be involved in sorcery?

[joel10000a]

There is only one way to heaven, and unless a person accepts that one way, he will perish in hell for eternity! That's why! Don't you think that is the one most important thing a person can ever do - to make sure he gets to heaven???