Ancient Scythians were white. Germans descend from this line. The Huns are related to Uhygurs and Magyars. Scythians aren't related to these people. Maybe now we can see where everyone lived in ancient days and who built what.
manipulated western history. These people cant proof anything for you because maybe your history is not true. I dont know whats true but maybe Uyghur people have right. Only kazakh and Uyghur people can read these thing near mummies. Why can´t rest of the world? only thing you can say is this is some witch things :)
China don't have history they are Africans ;) stop killing Uyghur people and their history.
@DragonOfQin ok im maybe deluded. Maybe your own Professor is deluded too with his own projekt :) he was almost crying when he had to tell the truth. But respect!! for this Chinese man. Tjeck it out yourself ;) youtube.com/watch?v=MJLB1a4EBJo IF you want to look at history from the another side then I can send you some book. For free...
@TheDamingo Are you retarded? The world now.... well with the exception of you support the "Out of Africa Theory". (Nat GEO Human Genome Proj) Everyone came from Africa dumbass. The video you shared with me was to support that "Out of Africa Theory" and to disprove the Chinese Nationalist scientist's claim that Chinese people did not come from Africa and came from specifically the Peking Man. My God please watch and read more.... *facepalm*
@DragonOfQin I will for sure not read the same book you are reading. And honest I dont no soo much about history and im not interested. Everybody is telling there own story and everybody can prove it in there own way. Like Yuezhi people own these mummies with no proof but try to look at things from another wiev too. When I look at booth side Chinese realy look ridiculous and just killing these people to hide there story. Sorry i dont believe in China anymore and this is my opinion. Thanks
@TheDamingo I am American so what are you talking about? Maybe you need to be smarter. Start getting As and take Advanced Placement World History and pay $12 per month for cable TVs and watch NAT Geo, Discovery, History, etc. You dont have to believe me. Believe in the top academics. Good that you admit "I dont no soo much about history". You cant even spell no wonder your view is narrow minded and warped. Take my advice you wont regret it.
the whole Tocharian story is a bullshit. Tocharians or Yuezhi in chinese history appeared during the time of Han dynesty, around 2BC-1 AD. but these Tarim mummies have more than 4000 years of history. so how come the mummies considered as Tocharian which lived 2000 years later？and there is no single proof that these mummies spoken indo/european language. the eurocentric dickheads came to tarim and saw these white mummies and found some records of caucasian Yuezhi people in chinese history.
and connected them without any proof!!. in fact , there were many caucasian people lived on this land. the scythians, Dingling, the Qangqil ( Qangli) and even white Huns. so why should these mummies should specifially connected to Tocharians but not other caocasian people in Tarim? this is a big made up lie of eurocentric scholars, just like Professor Mair, who dosen't even know that there are many old ston age human settlements around Tarim basin.
@Pantekin werent qanglis and huns turkic speaking? its pretty well established that the original turkic speakers were mongoloid, and the scythians and other iranic peoples were indo european as well. there is no evidence for any group of people with nordic features that were not indo european in origin, and regardless that doesnt make them the uyghurs predecessors. thats just like saying the fully sinicized people of xinjiang most likely in the future are the same as uyghurs today
the original uyghurs were turks who encroached on tocharian land (then known as the kushan empire). once the uyghurs conquered this area they dealt with the tocharians by mass slaughter, rape, etc the reason some uyghur may look tocharian is because the fact that the surviving tocharians had no choice but to assimilate, and many women were taken as harem wives. the claim that uyghurs are the descendants of the tocharian civilization is false
The bottom line is, XinJiang is part of China proper and the ethnic Uighurs are citizens of China, as the west is part of the US of A and ethnic American Injuns are US citizens...there ain't gonna be no independent Injuns states or Turkmenistan....deal with it....accept it.
The children are semi-russians. In other words russians who were settled there during Stalin era. Are you retarded or something? Seen the kazakg national hockey/football teams? Only russians, white slavs. Stupid mongrel. Nihao ma u foolish gook
Uyghurs are of mixed descent. They were originally Mongoloid.
"Uyghurs were expelled from Mongolia by the Kyrgyz, retreating to the Tarim Basin. This theory is supported by the discovery of translations of Tocharian texts into Uyghur. During Uyghur rule, the peoples mixed with the Uyghurs to produce much of the modern population of what is now Xinjiang".
It seems that modern Uyghurs are descended from people who were both from the East and the West. They resemble a meeting point between the two spheres of mankind.
If you have a look at the mummies found here they have Celtic braided hair, tattoos and tartan clothing. Celt warriors were recorded to work as mercenaries for Persians, greeks, Romans and Egyptians. These are not Uyghar. This is fact not a racial debate and we should not alter history to suite our political ambitions.
@robinhood2be : yes, it is not a racial debate, but what you said is not true. there are hundreds of mummies which has caucasian features. and they can't be simply mercenaries. people were used to migrate in whole Euro-ASIAN continent during many thousand years ago. if you check some DNA results of Uyghurs and Celtic people, you will see the surprising results.
Répondre à cette vidéo... Tocharians are Turks. It's proved. The enemies of Turks hide it like chinese people who recovered pyramids with trees, plants... They have also built the Great Wall of China to prevent the Turks to attack... Their biggest enemies are Turks and Turks too. Even now the Uyghurs (mix of Turks and Asians) are maltreated because they are of Turkish origin.
Toch means TURK and Arian = Aryan. THE WORLD HAS TO KNOW THE TRUTH !
I notice this vid only accent the 60% euro ancestry. All the pics shows people with different colour of eyes and hair. What bothers me is the person who made this vid totally ignore or is embarrass to show the other 40% of east asian ancestry. To totally ignore the other 40% is dangerous. That is what happened in Germany during 2nd WW. Where racial purity came into play.We all know what took place there. Jews and others were put to death. The fact is, like it or not ...Uyghurs are a mix people.
@0ct0ct09: thankyou for your point. but I am not a racist, and i never feel shame of someone's race or facial apparance. for me, black or white,caucasian or monguloid, is not a problem at all. yes,as you said we are a moxed people. we have people look like monguls, chinese, even my relatives. so why should i feel embrassed?
the reseaon why i made this vedio is more related to politics then race. i hope you read the introduction and you will have some idea.
@melechuzziel : i will not tolerate racist comments here. i dont know which race you are, but your comment shows that you are an uneducated, unsophisticated, illminded racist person.
the reason of the mummies are not directly linked with modern uyghurs, is that the uyghur became heavly mixed by the invading khitans, mongols and chinese migrants.
@SzachLechistanu, I see now that you are from Poland, a SLAV, you should always call yourself Polack n then Slav, but you speak about "whites" like some Polish-American who has lost his identity. I have seen them in Chicago, Polish-Americans & recent Polish immigrants from Poland, those 2 groups are like 2 different people, not the same culture anymore.
You had better stop talking about "white Power" you are Slavic and your culture is superior to western.
@SzachLechistanu, What has created great civilizations in history, China, Persia, Greece, is based on a more superior CULTURE than the neighbors had. Should I respect a lesser culture like say...Iceland? Rofl! Just because they are 'whiter'? In the end, we are all human, I respect what stands out amongst the crowd, not "hey, my skin happens to be a certain color, give me credit!"
Pointing to 'white' skin is the last resort of the weak-cultured, especially Americans, no longer European mindset.
@SzachLechistanu, I don't give a shit about "white race" I consider Slavs their own race, our way of life, attitudes, honor, mentality is a WORLD APART from the other "whites". To classify us all together based on skin color, is a sign of weakness, you life in your western liberal narcissist consuming way of life, you are as alien to me as the Chinese, I shouldn't give u a plus based on skin color ALONE.
Before climate change in IV century AD all country north of Kunlun from Charkliq to Cherchen, Niya, Keria,Chira, Khotan and Guma was known as Land of Gardens or Udun. Later Takla-Makan ( Abandoned Place) Desert swallowed many cities, which existed for at least 2,000 years. Chinese of Zhou Dynasty refered to this Land as Jade Paradise, Bible refered to as Garden of Eden. Mahmut Kashgari wrote in XI AD that Khotanese knew their country under ancient name "Udun " and Khotan had other name Udun.
antcestors of uyghurs come from atlantis. when atlantis flooded, a few priests survived and sailed to southern India. they migrated north and as time went the population grew. they established a great civilization in central asia. then most of their population migrated to northern europe, which caused the collaps of their empire. this is why the mummies found in the tarim basin are aryans, and uyghurs are aryans.
@Pantekin Hi most turkic people claim that the first turks appeared in altai, however there are other turkmenian shcolars who claim that the first turks were scythians, and the origin of oguz and Ogur (chuvash) turks were in Tian shan mountains, not altai.
The textiles found with the mummies are of an early European textile and weave type and are similar to textiles found on the bodies of salt miners in Austria of around 1300 BCE.
According to you, the Uyghurs have come to Central Europe?. They brought with them these textiles in Europe? Unlikely
no, you are wrong again. the ANCIENT Uyghurs started migration to this land long before the collapse of Orkhun Uyghur empire. actually the turkic (uyghur) speaking people appeared in central asia as long as 2000 years ago, many turkic ronic scripts were found many places in central asia. when the Uyghur empire collapsed and large number of uyghurs migrated to central asia in 840 AD, uyghur language was dominant in tarim basin,or there were no tocharians ,sctyhians, soghdis, but just uyghurs.
when the Uyghur empire at its strongest age, Tarim basin and some parts of central asia were belong to the uyghurs(7-9 centuries). many scholars believe during this time ,the turkification of central asia, which started thousands years ago by the migration of nomadic people, was completed.
haha, good ! let's have a discussion! first, tell me where did you see this mummies belong to Haplogroup R1a?
second and important quastion is, what makes you think that todays Uyghurs, not the ancient Uyghurs migrated from north, are not related to this mummies? WHEN I SAY UYGHUR PEOPLE, IT MEANS TODAYS UYGHURS! do you understand?
third, don't play with me with the name Tocharians. tocharians are one of our ancestors, but this mummies are not tocharians!
21jumppp, please stop insult the Turks. Uygur and Turks name meaning civilized people. Please restudy true history and clean your mind. Don't think all real Turks are not same in Germanay wich non educated workers.
the problems with all turks is, that thea are racist and seemingly always work towards seperatizm. this is why its so stupid to let them enter germany. turks raus!
hm, maybe thats because your ancestor moved from somewhere in central asia to the west. if you are little bit "civilized" ,you should know that ancestors of all europeans entered europe from asia, more exactly from western or central asia. so there is nothing to surprise.
by the way, I never said we are europeans, and it is not a big deal of being european.
but no neandertahl DNA found in modern humans, so basques can't be related to neanderthals genetiaclly. for the language? maybe. but the probablity is very low.furthermore, there are many isolated languages which don't related to others
basques look like todays english and celtic people..... in my opinion , but it's hard to find out sources if you wanna find just basques speciffically
if basques were close altaic then it explains why some irish people get black hair, but you would'nt care if a basque has black hair because it's spain, Some Basques can while some can't tan...
some people said basque is the hardest language speak in europe.
not sure but their physical appearence i assume they're medium tall, they have small eyes like many people in western europe while a few have big eyes, they're lighter than spaniards, but you can find some dark basques too.
Remember to look at Mitrochondrial DNA too,
Berbers have alot of african by but their Mtnchondrial dna is 50% european , which is hardly found out of europe.
Ya, sarmatians lacked their own records, their history is shrouded in deep mystery,
Like i red about alans and they allied with goths, and some ended up as far as spain! Like really in the early Visigothic Kingdom, the top half was full of Iranian speaking Alans, but Spaniards will likely not look Iranic because muslim moors conquered , and the Requoquista sent most the Gothic and Alanic DNA down to africa, spanish people might look like Celtic people , but dark.... their dna is r1b mostly
hi guys,Im very interested in the Basque people,because they have the hight fruequence of R1b and probably they are the decendents of oldest inhabitants of europe. how do you think about basques? and what is the physical apparance of r1b people?
i was interrested in them too, i suppose their language was related to the altaic family but the linguists havent made comparisions with altaic yet, they compared with the caucasus language and other's so far
Basques are likelu pre-indo-european westerners
probably alot of people in the west side were like the basques and spoke basque related languages then they assimilated to celts when the celtic languages reached western europe very early.
I'll assume your persian then, really the most people who were fond with the Yugoslavian Iranian theory were ex-Yugoslavians and people from the "Country" Iran, I was the only guy who was not from iran the "country" but from the "language family" iran. Well i speak hindi hahaha , my ancestors spoke the iranian and mongolic languages :P
and guess what Fyrom (Slavic Macedonia) and Bulgaria come from Bulgars who were originally of Iranic origin who came from Bactria , which now Balkh afghanistan, now it's Serbo-Croatians and Bulgarians, now isn't that something, who else is left, Hungary, oh yeah Hungary they have Iranic roots too, Honor and Mogar and their Iranian wives are the founders of the Huns and Magyars, the Huns came from the White in the east bringing in more Iranic and East asian influence into the EU.
haha stalin was not a lunatic, lunatics are weak and shitty, Muhhamed ruled over the old people who came from Back in the day, Stalin was good cause he ruled over developed russia, Muhhamed and stalin killed whoever disagreed with them except Muhhamed forced Islam wanting a muslim state and Stalin forced irreligion, stalin persecuted many religions, wanting his state to become secular.
Hazara is just an ethnicity but there are hybrid mongol decentdants. Their modal haplogroup is C3.
The ancient huns and bulgars were turanoid ( mongoloid/caucasoid) not iranic. The model haplogroup of huns were Q which is present in over half of europe but in very low frequencies.
"Turanoid are an mongoloid/caucasoid people. This type of people is found mainly in kazakhs,kyrgyz, some turkey and hungarians.Common among uzbeks,uyghurs. The ancient bulgars,huns,khazars,tatars,magyars
One thing is sure. If I show the foto of the girl at 4:00 and the boy after her. Nobody vill say it in Hungary, they are not hungarians!!! Even when I shew them to my dutch collegues, they asked me, what was my purpose with this hungrian kids!
The girl at 4:05 is so similar to my friend"s doughter, that you would not believe it! They are szekelys in Transilvania.
I believe that the Tochars were killed off, assimilated (their women) or driven out because there weren't too many of them. The Uighurs of today are so mixed that they really have very little Tochar DNA. The real relatives of these Tochars are the Europeans who are closer to them genetically and linguistically. So I really don't understand what they are trying to celebrate.
It was actually a theory I read on the internet and which I agree on, after reading quite a bit about the Tochars. What really makes a culture? E.G. One theory is that Serbs came from the original proto Iranic Scythian tribes but that was so long ago, that today the culture is Serbian/slavic in present day Balkans. Just like the living Sorbs in Germany who share the same name and probably a history (not much of which is known due to lack of written records) but today we are so separate.
@shitonMOHAMMAD Actually they were descendant from multiple Sarmatian tribes , where on group were in poland and already slavitized and another 2 other groups that reached present day yugoslavia/hungary earlier than their brothers who had their language switched to slavic. Iyazigias are the ones that went through hungary and northern ex-yugoslavia, then the byzantine empire hired the white serbs and the Franks hired the white croats to fight off barbarians possibly being iranian, by their name
@shitonMOHAMMAD let me guess.. your from one of the Iranian ethnic groups........... correct? which one then ....Persian? Pamiri, Ossetian or maybe Pashtun?
why does it matter to you Ex-Muslim? are you Zoroastrian now ? My Serbian Brothers and sisters killing Muslims in yugoslavia, i pity that evetn , alot.
not so. Actually genetic studies on modern Uighurs conducted by Victor Mair's Chinese and European colleagues show about 54% Caucasian genes in the Uighur, derived from both the Tokhars and Iranian Scythians
that's because you're an uneducated person yourself and project your ignorance onto others. My user name spells out the fact tha tmohammad was an uneducated, child molesting warmongering criminal, butcher and lunatic. If you have a problem with that, that means you're a criminal, lunatic and child molester as well
oh come on! you muslim haters have been blaming prophet muhammad for more than 1000 years but it didin't change anything,because he was not the man which you muslim haters like to demonise. your comments show your projudice and hatred against islam ,it also shows you uneducated sick mind .if you have problem with muslims, speak directly with a rational way,not by humuliating a prophet which respected by billions. your hate just give people a impression that you are a looser.
you're a moron, and your mother is a loser. I was born a muslim for your information and mohammad was a lunatic piece of shit child molester, not a prophet
by the way, saying I am a "hater" of someone whose entire lifetime was about hate, about killing political opponents (like the poetess Asma bin Marwan), or killing his opponents in Medina, murdering caravan traders, raping their women and preaching holy wars against infidels, hatred against non-muslims shows what a complete and total MORON you are. YOU are the hater, you hate everything and anything that's not muslim and if you lie about this or say you don't then you're not a muslim!
The mummies are fit to the theory of Michelangeli Naddeo.
Question... ARe the mummies indo-europeans, or proto europeans? The proto europeans lived in europe and the carpatiam basin before the indo-european invision.
it depends on the genetic results of thess Mummies. Im against some european scholars who always claim these mummies "indo europeans" ,without giving any reasonable proof. but unfortunately I don't have proofs too. but I belive that according to C date analysis, they were more older people then indo-europeans who arrive Tarim basin only around 3000 years ago.
according to wikipedia, R1b is a very old Haplogroup (Y-DNA) which is frequent in western europe. among them Basque people has more then 90 % frequency of R1b, and scholars suggest that it came from the oldest inhabitants of europe. but interestingly, today around 30% Uyghurs are carrying R1b. in wikipidia,it is written that origon of R1b is central asia or western asia. I assume that R1b among uyghurs came from these mummified people,who were the oldest inhabitants of Tarim basin.
The blind is also can see the similarity of Tartaria tablet, the Tordos tablets, The runes in the Bosnian piramid, Sumer runes, Hun-Uyghjur runes, and finally the Székely-magyar runes...
4200 years ago the people living in the charpatian basin left their home thank for the indo-european invasion. Many of them went to mezopotamia and founding the Sumer empire. Later and parallel this people riched the Tarim Basin.... Whit Attila and Árpád many of them went back to the Charpatian basin. Now this is Hungary. Our writing is older then 4000 years, First was used in central europe , later in Mezopotamia, and in the Tarim.
And again we see here false identity markers because specific dna tests show a far more mixed population than just uygurs. True that its tradition was to sleep with foreigners, as well as other ancient populations around the globe did, but consider that the later silk road caused a mixing of dna too
Inuit (Eskimos) had the same habit and also some other nomadics around the globe did it, so you are right and this whole marker theory as it is found on wikipedia and youtube (L1,L2,L3etc) is rather useless. Language development (indo-european), arts, clothing, decoration,ancient documents etc. gives a far better indication. Cosider the white US 60% have DNA also of black people in them, but not ok info to spread hate, nationalistics etc. to start wars and earn money with common people.
that is the fun, that nobady. Hungarians came here to the Chatpatian basin probably in 3 wavew. First Attila the Hun, and the Avars, and in 896 the MAgyars as we call ourself, and only the Turkeys call us magyar....
The last 1000 years there were some mix, but still we are an island in the middle of europe.
Nobody told that the uyghurs are hungaians. but the closest relation is proven. There are many scientists are there and for example found 40 folk songs one to one to hungarians ones...
Dude, the old Hungarian inscription is devided from the Turkic inscription. En those were Turkic/Uyghur. Hungarians MAGYARS have also lot in common with other Turkic tribes, but that is because they lived together for a long time, not because they are the same. Just read a book for once.
one thing is gettin very clear from 1961 but it startad 100 years ago with the Tordosi korongok - Tordos tablets.. 1961 Tatárlaka korongok - Tartaria tablets
The root of the writing can be driven back to the Charpatian basin... This is the ancestor of the Sumer writing....
And the Sumer is the ancestor of many...the Hun, and magyar...Also the middle asia turky. But it is upto you to compare the runs, combining with the time....
Hungarians have a saying that ther history was written by their enemies. This is justified given that the official version of Hungarian history which is still being propagated today is in fact the product of centuries of foreign rule during which the occupying powers and their puppet regimes took care to fabricate a Hungarian history which suited their objectives: to present a distorted and unfavourable image of the Hungarians, in order to weaken their national identity and self-consciousness.
Maria Theresia had an advisor who told her: The hungarians are a proud nation, they are proud of their history. Clear their history and you can easily control them....
so they started to collect or runic remambrance and they destroyed them
That doesn't mean Uyghurs and other Turkic people are Hungarian, but they are releated. I don't have problems with Hungarians, but I hate it when they spread so much bullshit.
According to the newest theories and archeological discoveries, the writing was started in the Charpatian basin.
ca. 4200 years ago the indoeuropens came to europe pushing out the old civilisation. thanks they new the wheel they went to mezopotamia, and parallel and later to the Tarim basin
compare the hungarian runic writing that can be used perfectly for the hungarian lenguage, with the runes have been found some years ago in Russia nothr from the Tarim.....And compare it to the turk runes. They are in closed relation but from the 22 runes 18 is exacly the same as hungarian runes.
Ancient Scythians were white. Germans descend from this line. The Huns are related to Uhygurs and Magyars. Scythians aren't related to these people. Maybe now we can see where everyone lived in ancient days and who built what.
MightyZarkon 3 weeks ago
manipulated western history. These people cant proof anything for you because maybe your history is not true. I dont know whats true but maybe Uyghur people have right. Only kazakh and Uyghur people can read these thing near mummies. Why can´t rest of the world? only thing you can say is this is some witch things :)
China don't have history they are Africans ;) stop killing Uyghur people and their history.
TheDamingo 4 weeks ago
@TheDamingo you're deluded. You're actually african. Hans are Qin.
DragonOfQin 2 weeks ago
@DragonOfQin ok im maybe deluded. Maybe your own Professor is deluded too with his own projekt :) he was almost crying when he had to tell the truth. But respect!! for this Chinese man. Tjeck it out yourself ;) youtube.com/watch?v=MJLB1a4EBJo IF you want to look at history from the another side then I can send you some book. For free...
TheDamingo 2 weeks ago
@TheDamingo Are you retarded? The world now.... well with the exception of you support the "Out of Africa Theory". (Nat GEO Human Genome Proj) Everyone came from Africa dumbass. The video you shared with me was to support that "Out of Africa Theory" and to disprove the Chinese Nationalist scientist's claim that Chinese people did not come from Africa and came from specifically the Peking Man. My God please watch and read more.... *facepalm*
DragonOfQin 2 weeks ago
@DragonOfQin I will for sure not read the same book you are reading. And honest I dont no soo much about history and im not interested. Everybody is telling there own story and everybody can prove it in there own way. Like Yuezhi people own these mummies with no proof but try to look at things from another wiev too. When I look at booth side Chinese realy look ridiculous and just killing these people to hide there story. Sorry i dont believe in China anymore and this is my opinion. Thanks
TheDamingo 2 weeks ago
@TheDamingo I am American so what are you talking about? Maybe you need to be smarter. Start getting As and take Advanced Placement World History and pay $12 per month for cable TVs and watch NAT Geo, Discovery, History, etc. You dont have to believe me. Believe in the top academics. Good that you admit "I dont no soo much about history". You cant even spell no wonder your view is narrow minded and warped. Take my advice you wont regret it.
DragonOfQin 2 weeks ago
the whole Tocharian story is a bullshit. Tocharians or Yuezhi in chinese history appeared during the time of Han dynesty, around 2BC-1 AD. but these Tarim mummies have more than 4000 years of history. so how come the mummies considered as Tocharian which lived 2000 years later？and there is no single proof that these mummies spoken indo/european language. the eurocentric dickheads came to tarim and saw these white mummies and found some records of caucasian Yuezhi people in chinese history.
Pantekin 1 month ago
and connected them without any proof!!. in fact , there were many caucasian people lived on this land. the scythians, Dingling, the Qangqil ( Qangli) and even white Huns. so why should these mummies should specifially connected to Tocharians but not other caocasian people in Tarim? this is a big made up lie of eurocentric scholars, just like Professor Mair, who dosen't even know that there are many old ston age human settlements around Tarim basin.
Pantekin 1 month ago
@Pantekin werent qanglis and huns turkic speaking? its pretty well established that the original turkic speakers were mongoloid, and the scythians and other iranic peoples were indo european as well. there is no evidence for any group of people with nordic features that were not indo european in origin, and regardless that doesnt make them the uyghurs predecessors. thats just like saying the fully sinicized people of xinjiang most likely in the future are the same as uyghurs today
hobosmurf 1 month ago
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hobosmurf 1 month ago
the original uyghurs were turks who encroached on tocharian land (then known as the kushan empire). once the uyghurs conquered this area they dealt with the tocharians by mass slaughter, rape, etc the reason some uyghur may look tocharian is because the fact that the surviving tocharians had no choice but to assimilate, and many women were taken as harem wives. the claim that uyghurs are the descendants of the tocharian civilization is false
hobosmurf 1 month ago
@hobosmurf : are you telling a fairytale? no thanks. you dont have any single proof of so called "massacare", do you?
Pantekin 1 month ago
Uighurs are descended from a mix of the European Tocharians and the Wusun Turk people. The name Turk probably comes from Tochkar.
thirstyphilosopher 2 months ago
@ComradeMing yes MONGOLOID but mixed with Turks. Blue eyed asian pig !
ataturk1888 2 months ago
@ComradeMing Genghis Khan was fucked by Turks. Look at his blue eyes moron !
ataturk1888 2 months ago
@ComradeMing The white mummies are part of the pyramids idiot ! Arsi-Kuci (TOCHARIANS) are TURKS ! LOOK AFTER DNA TEST !
ataturk1888 2 months ago
They were from DInglins (Di) dynasty, Aryans who spoke Indo-European language, NOT Chinese or Turk
VendPrekmurec 3 months ago
The bottom line is, XinJiang is part of China proper and the ethnic Uighurs are citizens of China, as the west is part of the US of A and ethnic American Injuns are US citizens...there ain't gonna be no independent Injuns states or Turkmenistan....deal with it....accept it.
Houseofthe7gayboys 3 months ago
The children are semi-russians. In other words russians who were settled there during Stalin era. Are you retarded or something? Seen the kazakg national hockey/football teams? Only russians, white slavs. Stupid mongrel. Nihao ma u foolish gook
Miffoman91 4 months ago
@Miffoman91 The Nazis shoulda elimated you guys when they had the chance.
Houseofthe7gayboys 3 months ago
Uyghurs are of mixed descent. They were originally Mongoloid.
"Uyghurs were expelled from Mongolia by the Kyrgyz, retreating to the Tarim Basin. This theory is supported by the discovery of translations of Tocharian texts into Uyghur. During Uyghur rule, the peoples mixed with the Uyghurs to produce much of the modern population of what is now Xinjiang".
Lordofthenipplerings 5 months ago
Uyghur and Volga Bulgars have a strong kinship..Volga-Bulgar language almost exactly as Uyghur
MariusChivu838814 7 months ago
It seems that modern Uyghurs are descended from people who were both from the East and the West. They resemble a meeting point between the two spheres of mankind.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@TsarSamuil I think you gotta improve your knowledge in the subject called History mate.
UighurKnight 1 year ago
Uyghurs are great nation in the world.thank you for making this vid.let the world know who Uyghurs are.
tdsp100 1 year ago
If you have a look at the mummies found here they have Celtic braided hair, tattoos and tartan clothing. Celt warriors were recorded to work as mercenaries for Persians, greeks, Romans and Egyptians. These are not Uyghar. This is fact not a racial debate and we should not alter history to suite our political ambitions.
robinhood2be 1 year ago
@robinhood2be : yes, it is not a racial debate, but what you said is not true. there are hundreds of mummies which has caucasian features. and they can't be simply mercenaries. people were used to migrate in whole Euro-ASIAN continent during many thousand years ago. if you check some DNA results of Uyghurs and Celtic people, you will see the surprising results.
Pantekin 1 year ago
@Pantekin Genetically they are similar to Turks (Anatolians). Their language is near to Germanic languages, italian and is ANATOLIAN.
ataturk1888 2 months ago
Répondre à cette vidéo... Tocharians are Turks. It's proved. The enemies of Turks hide it like chinese people who recovered pyramids with trees, plants... They have also built the Great Wall of China to prevent the Turks to attack... Their biggest enemies are Turks and Turks too. Even now the Uyghurs (mix of Turks and Asians) are maltreated because they are of Turkish origin.
Toch means TURK and Arian = Aryan. THE WORLD HAS TO KNOW THE TRUTH !
ataturk1888 2 months ago
Pantekin...with respect, thanks for explaining the intent of this vid.
0ct0ct09 1 year ago
FREE EAST TURKISTAN!!!!.
30062004se 1 year ago
I notice this vid only accent the 60% euro ancestry. All the pics shows people with different colour of eyes and hair. What bothers me is the person who made this vid totally ignore or is embarrass to show the other 40% of east asian ancestry. To totally ignore the other 40% is dangerous. That is what happened in Germany during 2nd WW. Where racial purity came into play.We all know what took place there. Jews and others were put to death. The fact is, like it or not ...Uyghurs are a mix people.
0ct0ct09 1 year ago
@0ct0ct09: thankyou for your point. but I am not a racist, and i never feel shame of someone's race or facial apparance. for me, black or white,caucasian or monguloid, is not a problem at all. yes,as you said we are a moxed people. we have people look like monguls, chinese, even my relatives. so why should i feel embrassed?
the reseaon why i made this vedio is more related to politics then race. i hope you read the introduction and you will have some idea.
Pantekin 1 year ago
tocharians r difference to uyghur ,they more of europeans descent whereas the latter loook like mongolioids ,uneducated ,unkempt and unsophicated .
melechuzziel 1 year ago
@melechuzziel, STFU judas..Go kill yourself Semite dog
MariusChivu838814 8 months ago
@MariusChivu838814 Never heard of Semite dog but mongrel dog YES and you are one of THEM!!!!
melechuzziel 6 months ago
@melechuzziel : i will not tolerate racist comments here. i dont know which race you are, but your comment shows that you are an uneducated, unsophisticated, illminded racist person.
Pantekin 6 months ago
Indo-Europeans = empty, error
Couldn'f find.
Long Live Turan !!!
OrthoDogs 1 year ago
the reason of the mummies are not directly linked with modern uyghurs, is that the uyghur became heavly mixed by the invading khitans, mongols and chinese migrants.
In6the6dark 1 year ago
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In6the6dark 1 year ago
@SzachLechistanu, I see now that you are from Poland, a SLAV, you should always call yourself Polack n then Slav, but you speak about "whites" like some Polish-American who has lost his identity. I have seen them in Chicago, Polish-Americans & recent Polish immigrants from Poland, those 2 groups are like 2 different people, not the same culture anymore.
You had better stop talking about "white Power" you are Slavic and your culture is superior to western.
TsarSamuil 1 year ago
@SzachLechistanu, What has created great civilizations in history, China, Persia, Greece, is based on a more superior CULTURE than the neighbors had. Should I respect a lesser culture like say...Iceland? Rofl! Just because they are 'whiter'? In the end, we are all human, I respect what stands out amongst the crowd, not "hey, my skin happens to be a certain color, give me credit!"
Pointing to 'white' skin is the last resort of the weak-cultured, especially Americans, no longer European mindset.
TsarSamuil 1 year ago
@SzachLechistanu, I don't give a shit about "white race" I consider Slavs their own race, our way of life, attitudes, honor, mentality is a WORLD APART from the other "whites". To classify us all together based on skin color, is a sign of weakness, you life in your western liberal narcissist consuming way of life, you are as alien to me as the Chinese, I shouldn't give u a plus based on skin color ALONE.
TsarSamuil 1 year ago
@SzachLechistanu, Germans & Arab muslim monkeys are anti-Slavic vermin n Germans are NOT Aryan.
China is oldest biggest most successful civilization, it was grand before n is becoming it again. It's one of the most important countries.
TsarSamuil 1 year ago
@SzachLechistanu, Chinese own you.
TsarSamuil 1 year ago
@TsarSamuil
first you are idiot.
next the tarim people werent gypsoaryan parazites, but native european scythians!
and slavs are plastic "folk" made by byzant.
Felvidekdothu 1 year ago
Que hermosos rostros! Que hermosa que es la cara de la gente Uygur!
Saludos desde el país más hermoso del mundo: LA REPÚBLICA ARGENTINA...
Leonardo.
leovladpop 1 year ago
We Will Survive ! well done :) keep up brothers. we will make it ! keep searching for the ture history of ours :)
In6the6dark 1 year ago
Before climate change in IV century AD all country north of Kunlun from Charkliq to Cherchen, Niya, Keria,Chira, Khotan and Guma was known as Land of Gardens or Udun. Later Takla-Makan ( Abandoned Place) Desert swallowed many cities, which existed for at least 2,000 years. Chinese of Zhou Dynasty refered to this Land as Jade Paradise, Bible refered to as Garden of Eden. Mahmut Kashgari wrote in XI AD that Khotanese knew their country under ancient name "Udun " and Khotan had other name Udun.
nyckhusan 1 year ago
very basque and schytian greating all the way from ireland
hartejoseph 1 year ago
antcestors of uyghurs come from atlantis. when atlantis flooded, a few priests survived and sailed to southern India. they migrated north and as time went the population grew. they established a great civilization in central asia. then most of their population migrated to northern europe, which caused the collaps of their empire. this is why the mummies found in the tarim basin are aryans, and uyghurs are aryans.
hunnicpride 1 year ago
@hunnicpride, I think we know now why u altaic peoples stopped conquering, u started doing drugs n come up with stupid fantasies about history.
History is what was, not what u dream up to your liking.
TsarSamuil 1 year ago
Nice Video my Uyghur Brother !!!
Greetings from the whole Turkic World to East Turkistan.
IdelUralState 1 year ago 2
Thanks Pantekin, you look a happy people, may you remain so : )
bluenail90 1 year ago
@Pantekin, that's not what our DNA says, so keep making up fantasies u ugly mongol pigs.
TsarSamuil 1 year ago
@TsarSamuil : haha, i know what my genetics tell. fortunately, im not a racist trash like you!
by the way, i hope you can check your DNA .maybe you will find your ancestor among uyghurs. You Pretty (haha) Slavic Bastard!
Pantekin 1 year ago
@Pantekin Hi most turkic people claim that the first turks appeared in altai, however there are other turkmenian shcolars who claim that the first turks were scythians, and the origin of oguz and Ogur (chuvash) turks were in Tian shan mountains, not altai.
AntiKyrgyz 1 year ago
@TsarSa
In6the6dark 1 year ago
Raxmat sizga, may Allah belsses your heart. Free Uyghur! Free East Turkistan.
Evil chinese government, the blood suckers. My # 1 enemy till I die.
junai11 1 year ago 2
Raxmat sizga, may Allah belsses your heart. Free Uyghur! Free East Turkistan.
Evil chinese government, the blood suckers. My # 1 enemy till I die.
junai11 1 year ago
White pride!
SuicietyBoozer 1 year ago
DNA sequence data shows that the mummies had a haplotype characteristic of western Eurasia in the area of Ukraine.>>>>>>>>
R1a dominates in Ukraine.
iwillbebackin777days 1 year ago
From wiki:
The textiles found with the mummies are of an early European textile and weave type and are similar to textiles found on the bodies of salt miners in Austria of around 1300 BCE.
According to you, the Uyghurs have come to Central Europe?. They brought with them these textiles in Europe? Unlikely
unlikely
iwillbebackin777days 1 year ago
the turkic (uyghur) speaking people appeared in central asia as long as 2000 years ago.
Who said this?
Where is your source of information? Again nationalists ... Like Adolf ,Mustafa Kemal Atatürk....
iwillbebackin777days 1 year ago
the Uyghur peoples arrived in 840 CE!!!!!
iwillbebackin777days 1 year ago
no, you are wrong again. the ANCIENT Uyghurs started migration to this land long before the collapse of Orkhun Uyghur empire. actually the turkic (uyghur) speaking people appeared in central asia as long as 2000 years ago, many turkic ronic scripts were found many places in central asia. when the Uyghur empire collapsed and large number of uyghurs migrated to central asia in 840 AD, uyghur language was dominant in tarim basin,or there were no tocharians ,sctyhians, soghdis, but just uyghurs.
Pantekin 1 year ago
when the Uyghur empire at its strongest age, Tarim basin and some parts of central asia were belong to the uyghurs(7-9 centuries). many scholars believe during this time ,the turkification of central asia, which started thousands years ago by the migration of nomadic people, was completed.
Pantekin 1 year ago
I know more than you.
I know that europeans come from Central Asia.
We talk about mummies ...
The mummies belong to haplogroup R1a. It was not me who said it
It is simple
The Tarim mummies date from 1800 BCE to 200 CE.
Do You see from 1800 BCE to 200 CE.
After the collapse of the Uyghur Khaganate in 840 CE, Uyghur resettled to the Tarim Basin, merging with the existing Tocharian population.
Great Uyghur Civillization ....Hhahaha
iwillbebackin777days 1 year ago
haha, good ! let's have a discussion! first, tell me where did you see this mummies belong to Haplogroup R1a?
second and important quastion is, what makes you think that todays Uyghurs, not the ancient Uyghurs migrated from north, are not related to this mummies? WHEN I SAY UYGHUR PEOPLE, IT MEANS TODAYS UYGHURS! do you understand?
third, don't play with me with the name Tocharians. tocharians are one of our ancestors, but this mummies are not tocharians!
Pantekin 1 year ago
i know the truth and propagandize everywhere!
ZsoltTheHun 1 year ago
we will survive together!!!
greatings from hungary!
ZsoltTheHun 1 year ago
21jumppp, please stop insult the Turks. Uygur and Turks name meaning civilized people. Please restudy true history and clean your mind. Don't think all real Turks are not same in Germanay wich non educated workers.
UluQan 1 year ago
the problems with all turks is, that thea are racist and seemingly always work towards seperatizm. this is why its so stupid to let them enter germany. turks raus!
21jumppp 1 year ago
hi dude, have you seen something "racist" or "seperatist" contents here?
Im not a racist, and I hate racisim. this is just about history and anthropology,not about racism.
Pantekin 1 year ago
Uyghur Civilization ?????
WTH?
DNA sequence data shows that the mummies had a haplotype characteristic of western Eurasia in the area of Ukraine.
Check il in wikipedia
Uyghurs are from Siberia, Asia not from Europe!
iwillbebackin777days 1 year ago
hm, maybe thats because your ancestor moved from somewhere in central asia to the west. if you are little bit "civilized" ,you should know that ancestors of all europeans entered europe from asia, more exactly from western or central asia. so there is nothing to surprise.
by the way, I never said we are europeans, and it is not a big deal of being european.
Pantekin 1 year ago
interesting.
1055555grace 1 year ago
you know neanderthal fossils were found near basque country, and all around iberia,
why wont people assume neanderthals had something to do with the basque language atleast....
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
but no neandertahl DNA found in modern humans, so basques can't be related to neanderthals genetiaclly. for the language? maybe. but the probablity is very low.furthermore, there are many isolated languages which don't related to others
Pantekin 1 year ago
there's 2 kinds of celtic insular and the extinct celtic
the inusular celtic is unusual to indo-european
some people think insular celtic has borrowed many pre-indo-european loanwords, like someone pointed out hungarian words in irish gaelic, :/......
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
i mean first celts invaded britain prehistorically and germanics fallowed by recently
they could've affected the native population in england.... heard a theory that finno-ugric used to dominate europe once. not sure....
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
basques look like todays english and celtic people..... in my opinion , but it's hard to find out sources if you wanna find just basques speciffically
if basques were close altaic then it explains why some irish people get black hair, but you would'nt care if a basque has black hair because it's spain, Some Basques can while some can't tan...
some people said basque is the hardest language speak in europe.
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
not sure but their physical appearence i assume they're medium tall, they have small eyes like many people in western europe while a few have big eyes, they're lighter than spaniards, but you can find some dark basques too.
Remember to look at Mitrochondrial DNA too,
Berbers have alot of african by but their Mtnchondrial dna is 50% european , which is hardly found out of europe.
Mtchndrial dna is harder to track though
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
Bebers are north africans.They weren't black people they were north african medditerrean typed the the algerians and tunisians.
HybridsAsianWorld 1 year ago
Ya, sarmatians lacked their own records, their history is shrouded in deep mystery,
Like i red about alans and they allied with goths, and some ended up as far as spain! Like really in the early Visigothic Kingdom, the top half was full of Iranian speaking Alans, but Spaniards will likely not look Iranic because muslim moors conquered , and the Requoquista sent most the Gothic and Alanic DNA down to africa, spanish people might look like Celtic people , but dark.... their dna is r1b mostly
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
hi guys,Im very interested in the Basque people,because they have the hight fruequence of R1b and probably they are the decendents of oldest inhabitants of europe. how do you think about basques? and what is the physical apparance of r1b people?
Pantekin 1 year ago
i was interrested in them too, i suppose their language was related to the altaic family but the linguists havent made comparisions with altaic yet, they compared with the caucasus language and other's so far
Basques are likelu pre-indo-european westerners
probably alot of people in the west side were like the basques and spoke basque related languages then they assimilated to celts when the celtic languages reached western europe very early.
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
Uyghurs came to Tarim in the 8-9th century. Bfore that they wer ein the Orkhon Uyghur kingdom.
patkakurmama 1 year ago
And those "europoid" uyghurs in the video do not have anything europoid to them. Light eyes and/or hair does not mean europoid.
patkakurmama 1 year ago
don't waste my and your time with your elementary knowledge.ok?
Pantekin 1 year ago
and also because Iran has the most Muslim apostates, ; ) ,
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
I'll assume your persian then, really the most people who were fond with the Yugoslavian Iranian theory were ex-Yugoslavians and people from the "Country" Iran, I was the only guy who was not from iran the "country" but from the "language family" iran. Well i speak hindi hahaha , my ancestors spoke the iranian and mongolic languages :P
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
and guess what Fyrom (Slavic Macedonia) and Bulgaria come from Bulgars who were originally of Iranic origin who came from Bactria , which now Balkh afghanistan, now it's Serbo-Croatians and Bulgarians, now isn't that something, who else is left, Hungary, oh yeah Hungary they have Iranic roots too, Honor and Mogar and their Iranian wives are the founders of the Huns and Magyars, the Huns came from the White in the east bringing in more Iranic and East asian influence into the EU.
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
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HybridsAsianWorld 1 year ago
haha stalin was not a lunatic, lunatics are weak and shitty, Muhhamed ruled over the old people who came from Back in the day, Stalin was good cause he ruled over developed russia, Muhhamed and stalin killed whoever disagreed with them except Muhhamed forced Islam wanting a muslim state and Stalin forced irreligion, stalin persecuted many religions, wanting his state to become secular.
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
guess what , Hazaras and Ossetians also have alot of r1b when being out of europe.
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
Only the hazara of pakistan has 32% r1b.
Not all hazaras are decent from mongol.
Hazara is just an ethnicity but there are hybrid mongol decentdants. Their modal haplogroup is C3.
The ancient huns and bulgars were turanoid ( mongoloid/caucasoid) not iranic. The model haplogroup of huns were Q which is present in over half of europe but in very low frequencies.
HybridsAsianWorld 1 year ago
Another "hybrid". There's no such thing as a hybrid nation. And by the way Bulgars were and are europoid and irnaic.
patkakurmama 1 year ago
kazakhs,uzbeks,kyrgyz,uzbeks,turkmen
are all hybrid and are turanoid.
"Turanoid are an mongoloid/caucasoid people. This type of people is found mainly in kazakhs,kyrgyz, some turkey and hungarians.Common among uzbeks,uyghurs. The ancient bulgars,huns,khazars,tatars,magyars
were of this type"
HybridsAsianWorld 1 year ago
Okay Mohhamed I'll make an account named shitonStalin , will that work ?
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
sure, no problem, Stalin and mohammad had a lot in common. Both lunatic sons of bitches
shitonMOHAMMAD 2 years ago
Enjoyed the vid :)
lucidmindful 2 years ago
I would like to here you evaulation!
One thing is sure. If I show the foto of the girl at 4:00 and the boy after her. Nobody vill say it in Hungary, they are not hungarians!!! Even when I shew them to my dutch collegues, they asked me, what was my purpose with this hungrian kids!
The girl at 4:05 is so similar to my friend"s doughter, that you would not believe it! They are szekelys in Transilvania.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I believe that the Tochars were killed off, assimilated (their women) or driven out because there weren't too many of them. The Uighurs of today are so mixed that they really have very little Tochar DNA. The real relatives of these Tochars are the Europeans who are closer to them genetically and linguistically. So I really don't understand what they are trying to celebrate.
sneighwena 2 years ago
It was actually a theory I read on the internet and which I agree on, after reading quite a bit about the Tochars. What really makes a culture? E.G. One theory is that Serbs came from the original proto Iranic Scythian tribes but that was so long ago, that today the culture is Serbian/slavic in present day Balkans. Just like the living Sorbs in Germany who share the same name and probably a history (not much of which is known due to lack of written records) but today we are so separate.
sneighwena 2 years ago
I read that too, tha tthe Serbs and Croats were actually descended from Iranian Sarmatians (Iyazigians to be precise)
shitonMOHAMMAD 2 years ago
@shitonMOHAMMAD Actually they were descendant from multiple Sarmatian tribes , where on group were in poland and already slavitized and another 2 other groups that reached present day yugoslavia/hungary earlier than their brothers who had their language switched to slavic. Iyazigias are the ones that went through hungary and northern ex-yugoslavia, then the byzantine empire hired the white serbs and the Franks hired the white croats to fight off barbarians possibly being iranian, by their name
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
@papasmurfXXX oh an the second group who reached the balkans were called alans, they lived in Dalmatia,fluently speaking the Scythian language.
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
yes, I read that too, Croats and Serbs both of Iranian Sarmatian background. Isn't that something?
shitonMOHAMMAD 2 years ago
@shitonMOHAMMAD let me guess.. your from one of the Iranian ethnic groups........... correct? which one then ....Persian? Pamiri, Ossetian or maybe Pashtun?
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
why does it matter to you Ex-Muslim? are you Zoroastrian now ? My Serbian Brothers and sisters killing Muslims in yugoslavia, i pity that evetn , alot.
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
not so. Actually genetic studies on modern Uighurs conducted by Victor Mair's Chinese and European colleagues show about 54% Caucasian genes in the Uighur, derived from both the Tokhars and Iranian Scythians
shitonMOHAMMAD 2 years ago
@shitonMOHAMMAD :
i would have believed you are an educated person, but your user name didn't allow me that.
Pantekin 2 years ago
that's because you're an uneducated person yourself and project your ignorance onto others. My user name spells out the fact tha tmohammad was an uneducated, child molesting warmongering criminal, butcher and lunatic. If you have a problem with that, that means you're a criminal, lunatic and child molester as well
shitonMOHAMMAD 2 years ago
@shitonMOHAMMAD
oh come on! you muslim haters have been blaming prophet muhammad for more than 1000 years but it didin't change anything,because he was not the man which you muslim haters like to demonise. your comments show your projudice and hatred against islam ,it also shows you uneducated sick mind .if you have problem with muslims, speak directly with a rational way,not by humuliating a prophet which respected by billions. your hate just give people a impression that you are a looser.
Pantekin 2 years ago
you're a moron, and your mother is a loser. I was born a muslim for your information and mohammad was a lunatic piece of shit child molester, not a prophet
shitonMOHAMMAD 2 years ago
by the way, saying I am a "hater" of someone whose entire lifetime was about hate, about killing political opponents (like the poetess Asma bin Marwan), or killing his opponents in Medina, murdering caravan traders, raping their women and preaching holy wars against infidels, hatred against non-muslims shows what a complete and total MORON you are. YOU are the hater, you hate everything and anything that's not muslim and if you lie about this or say you don't then you're not a muslim!
shitonMOHAMMAD 2 years ago
@shitonMOHAMMAD , are you a Uyghur ?
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
no i am not
shitonMOHAMMAD 2 years ago
@sneighwena :
please tell me what is "Tochar DNA"? is there such a DNA?
obviously you don't have sufficient knowledge about uyghurs and genetic researchs on uyghurs.
Pantekin 2 years ago
The mummies are fit to the theory of Michelangeli Naddeo.
Question... ARe the mummies indo-europeans, or proto europeans? The proto europeans lived in europe and the carpatiam basin before the indo-european invision.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
@MrFefefofo according to genetics, the oldest people in europe were carrying R1b, and todays Basque people are the decendents of this old inhabitnts.
Pantekin 2 years ago
@Pantekin but what about the mummies?
Are they indo-europeans or proto europeans?
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
it depends on the genetic results of thess Mummies. Im against some european scholars who always claim these mummies "indo europeans" ,without giving any reasonable proof. but unfortunately I don't have proofs too. but I belive that according to C date analysis, they were more older people then indo-europeans who arrive Tarim basin only around 3000 years ago.
Pantekin 2 years ago
according to wikipedia, R1b is a very old Haplogroup (Y-DNA) which is frequent in western europe. among them Basque people has more then 90 % frequency of R1b, and scholars suggest that it came from the oldest inhabitants of europe. but interestingly, today around 30% Uyghurs are carrying R1b. in wikipidia,it is written that origon of R1b is central asia or western asia. I assume that R1b among uyghurs came from these mummified people,who were the oldest inhabitants of Tarim basin.
Pantekin 2 years ago
We survived in central europe more then 1000 years, I wish you the best!
Graetings from Hungary!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The blind is also can see the similarity of Tartaria tablet, the Tordos tablets, The runes in the Bosnian piramid, Sumer runes, Hun-Uyghjur runes, and finally the Székely-magyar runes...
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
4200 years ago the people living in the charpatian basin left their home thank for the indo-european invasion. Many of them went to mezopotamia and founding the Sumer empire. Later and parallel this people riched the Tarim Basin.... Whit Attila and Árpád many of them went back to the Charpatian basin. Now this is Hungary. Our writing is older then 4000 years, First was used in central europe , later in Mezopotamia, and in the Tarim.
And went back to Hungary!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
And again we see here false identity markers because specific dna tests show a far more mixed population than just uygurs. True that its tradition was to sleep with foreigners, as well as other ancient populations around the globe did, but consider that the later silk road caused a mixing of dna too
Allyredstar 2 years ago
Really? They do have a tradition of sleeping with foreigners? They must have been the America of old in their diversity.
zhonni 2 years ago
Inuit (Eskimos) had the same habit and also some other nomadics around the globe did it, so you are right and this whole marker theory as it is found on wikipedia and youtube (L1,L2,L3etc) is rather useless. Language development (indo-european), arts, clothing, decoration,ancient documents etc. gives a far better indication. Cosider the white US 60% have DNA also of black people in them, but not ok info to spread hate, nationalistics etc. to start wars and earn money with common people.
Allyredstar 2 years ago
and you are closest to the Hungarians in Europe....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Who is closest to hungarian in europe and has its origines in Europe ?
Allyredstar 2 years ago
that is the fun, that nobady. Hungarians came here to the Chatpatian basin probably in 3 wavew. First Attila the Hun, and the Avars, and in 896 the MAgyars as we call ourself, and only the Turkeys call us magyar....
The last 1000 years there were some mix, but still we are an island in the middle of europe.
Genetically closest to the uyghur.
Other historical name of us is onogur.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Uyghurs are TURK not Hungarians. Onogurs were Turkic Bulgars, NOT maygars. Learn your history.
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
comare the rune writing!!!
Nobody told that the uyghurs are hungaians. but the closest relation is proven. There are many scientists are there and for example found 40 folk songs one to one to hungarians ones...
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Dude, the old Hungarian inscription is devided from the Turkic inscription. En those were Turkic/Uyghur. Hungarians MAGYARS have also lot in common with other Turkic tribes, but that is because they lived together for a long time, not because they are the same. Just read a book for once.
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
You should learn.
With the Uyghurs we have common ancestor...
As the bulgars lost their leghuage the uyghurs were asimilated in lenguage to the turks...
The runic writing is common!!!!
common!!!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
ASSHOLE.
The runnic writing is in TURKIC. Not Hungarian. Hungarians people took over the TURKIC alphabet. Why are you so stupid?
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
The origin of the turk runic writing is from mezopotamia.
The origin or the hun runis is also
the origin of the hungarian runic also.
...
And the origin of the sumer runic is from the charpatian basin sir!!!
And the origin of this writing can be much more then 10000 year.
Look what was discovered in the bosnian piramids!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
one thing is gettin very clear from 1961 but it startad 100 years ago with the Tordosi korongok - Tordos tablets.. 1961 Tatárlaka korongok - Tartaria tablets
and now the bosnian piramids,,,,
the writing
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The root of the writing can be driven back to the Charpatian basin... This is the ancestor of the Sumer writing....
And the Sumer is the ancestor of many...the Hun, and magyar...Also the middle asia turky. But it is upto you to compare the runs, combining with the time....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The hill in Sumer is Kau-ka (Kaukazus)
In hungary we have many hill called -kő
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
probably accidently I erased? I did not want! Sorry!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I did not say the bulgars were magyar.
You have good fantasy...
But the magyars were a group of klans.. As the Huns also
And a big part of the Huns stayed here in the charpatian basin later the Avars came and finally the magyars.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Hungarians have a saying that ther history was written by their enemies. This is justified given that the official version of Hungarian history which is still being propagated today is in fact the product of centuries of foreign rule during which the occupying powers and their puppet regimes took care to fabricate a Hungarian history which suited their objectives: to present a distorted and unfavourable image of the Hungarians, in order to weaken their national identity and self-consciousness.
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
Maria Theresia had an advisor who told her: The hungarians are a proud nation, they are proud of their history. Clear their history and you can easily control them....
so they started to collect or runic remambrance and they destroyed them
Parallel they founded the finno-ugor theory....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
When we changed to be christins our old writing was stated, barbar... but it was still used 100 years ago. And now more and more can use it!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The hungarian lenguage is an ancient one. And the writing is 100% fit to it! So the two things were growing together.
föld means earth and ground both. Look at the f letter in our runic! And look at the simbol of the earth in the chinise writing...
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
And we have common writing, common lenguage with a lot of middle asia turks words...
And genetically we are closest to the uyghurs.
But why is it problem for you?
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
That doesn't mean Uyghurs and other Turkic people are Hungarian, but they are releated. I don't have problems with Hungarians, but I hate it when they spread so much bullshit.
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
now we can agree!
And I never told that who is the ancestor of whom....but there are newer and newer theories, and Michelangelo Naddeo's one is a very interesting.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Turks and Hungarians share a history. =)
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
search in youtube:
the origin of the hungarians
A presentation in 7 parts by Prof. Michelangelo Naddeo...
You can find it! I is in english with hunarian translation
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
furthermore search?
Tartaria tablets
Tordos-vinca culture
Bosnian piramids..
Székely-magyar rovás (runic writing)
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
According to the newest theories and archeological discoveries, the writing was started in the Charpatian basin.
ca. 4200 years ago the indoeuropens came to europe pushing out the old civilisation. thanks they new the wheel they went to mezopotamia, and parallel and later to the Tarim basin
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Indo-European people suck.
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
And with Attila the Hun came back to ceentral europe.
And the Magyars are streight line from Attila to Árpád!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I really propose you to search in internet and youtube for this titles
If accept his theory the picture start to be very clean....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
And finally...
compare the hungarian runic writing that can be used perfectly for the hungarian lenguage, with the runes have been found some years ago in Russia nothr from the Tarim.....And compare it to the turk runes. They are in closed relation but from the 22 runes 18 is exacly the same as hungarian runes.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Search on net
Székely-magyar rovásirás
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Search on youtube:
The origin of hungarians
total 7 part
Mechelangelo Naddeo"s theory...
You get answare for the origin of uyghurs too!!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Genetically you are closest to you yor neighbours SLAVS, not to Uyghurs.
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
Take care!!!
Thanks for the 1000 years old presence in europe there were some mix. But 1000 years ago the genetic code in one to one from middle asia.
As the uyghurs still have the european genetic codes...
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Dude, Turks from Turkey, Turks from Russia, Kirgiz, Kazakh, Turkmen, Uzbek ALL TURKS carry European genetic codes!
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
not true....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Genetically the uyghurs shows some relation to the turks but not more then the hungarians to the neighbours.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Hungarians are mostly SLAVS and a little bit Finno-Ugric. But mostly Slavs.
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
Not, as the Bulgars has also slav gens, but originally they came from middle asia. and they changed their lenguage.
Now gentically they are mostly turks but they speak slave lenguage...
The hungarian group Székely is equal to the HUNs!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I live in Hungary...We call ourselvs MAgyar. And only the turks call ourselves magyar-magyaristan.....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Because you are MAGYAR! Not Hun, but MAGYAR!
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago
compare our writing the Szélely-magyar rovás to the ancient uyghur one....
But we still can use it...better then the latin letters...
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
not true...Even when the hungarians came to the Charpatian basin the 0,57% was finnor -ugrina genetically....
And you will have surprice later....
The Hun emprie was a multicultural empire... The ancestors of the uyghurs are the huns. It is proven
The ancestors of the hungarians are Attila and the huns...Proven...
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Serously, read more books.
Huns wer Turkic, Uyghurs are Turkic. Hungarians are Magyars and not Huns.
TurkicPrincess1 2 years ago