Do Mystery & Rejected VH1 Contestant Reconcile?

[eduardosg251985]

STYLE neil strauss was over there with a beautufull lady that guy is a master too

[DesireeThunderbottom]

When I think back over the guys who successfully chatted me up in bars, they were the ones who did just what he teaches! Some men just do it naturally, but I think it is great that he can teach shy men to present themselves in the same confident way. I think many of these men are probably overlooked gems, who could be great boyfriends if they just learn how to get their foot in the door.

[03127172]

@DesireeThunderbottom That's a sweet comment of your own.

[DesireeThunderbottom]

I've been watching season 2 of "The Pickup Artist" and I think what Mystery teaches seems to be true, and helpful to guys without the confidence to approach women. He DOES know what makes women keep talking to a stranger in a bar, he DOES know how some men can stand out, and that looks are not the most important thing to the vast majority of women. Sex appeal is about confidence, not perfect features.

[Bmn72London]

Good video but unfortunately all this Game and PUA stuff is old school and outdated.

It requires you to change who you are to be successful. This turns men into fakes and actors. What happens if you are genuinely not an alpha male? What happens then?

A dude from London has come up with a new model where, if you are a Nice Guy, you do not need to change. If you really want to date ladies, check the Amazon book Secrets of the Players: A Guide to Success with Multiple Ladies.

[stickshift237]

hold up guys! have you guys taking a good look at Style... i mean...come on...he's proof that this stuff does work!

[legggggggggy]

PUA is the biggest scam ever. All guys who believe that Mystery is great with women don't have any themselves. He takes advantage of weak people with no game and tells them whatever they want to hear and use marketing as a tool to make people believe they need tools, openers and stupid clothing to get women. They do this to sell lots of full packed products. I realized you need two things and that made me a major player with lots of women. You need Confidence and Conversation skills. Nothin more

[lipecalietra]

@legggggggggy u forgot the main part : MONEY ^ ^

Gays like Men ; Women like MONEY ^^

[cootwooter]

@legggggggggy thats basically what mystery teaches? are you completely blind? he basically breaks down those two things into a huge explanation, he covers every aspect of meeting a girl, i can tell you right now confidence and "conversation skills" are too generalised to ever give any guy an advantage of getting with a girl.

[legggggggggy]

@cootwooter You are in your head. Really think about it. Does things have to be as complicated as Mystery do them? Were all men lost before he started to teach meeting women? The answer is no to all those questions. Confidence with women is not something you can get by learning a lot of techniques as he teaches and it will not give you any advantage (if they have any) unless you already have confidence. Conversation skills is basic for all humans and will improve when done a lot.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@legggggggggy I agree with most of your comments, but I must respectfully disagree with your notion that confidence and conversation skills is enough to get women, it isn't. You need LOOKS first to get women.

[legggggggggy]

@InspectorMontelbano1 You don't need looks, but your market will be bigger. I am a very good looking guy and before I improved my conversation skills and got confident I could get dates but hardly ever got to make out with any girl. Most of them dumped me after first or second date. A guy that is butt ugly can get a butt ugly girlfriend too. You see that every day on the streets. We all care about looks. We just hate to get rejected and draw the conclusion they ONLY care about looks.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@legggggggggy I agree that looks alone does not get you women, or laid, but it helps, given the shallow nature of women. If you are a good looking guy, then you should have no trouble with women. Try looking Middle Eastern/Arab like I do (I am actually of Italian background), and women will not even give you the time of day. My beef with the PUA industry and its fanboys is they assertion than any man irrespective of looks and money can pick up hot women, when we know that is totally false.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 "given the shallow nature of women"?? and when , prey tell was the last time you charity fucked a fat ugly girl? This kind of women hating hypocrisy is RIFE amongst all you guys whinging about how you cant get girls.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets Firstly, I don't hate women, so please don't words into my mouth. If anything, I value a woman's warmth, intelligence, and trustworthiness over her looks, so I am not the shallow one here, OK? However, I have seen far too many instances of female shallowness (yes, men can be shallow too), hence why I made the comment I did, and I stand by it.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 Well I think I can see why you struggle to get girls. "I value a woman's warmth, intelligence, and trustworthiness over her looks," Seriously I think Im going to throw up. You fucking kissass suplicating little mangina! Weak willed, spineless, whinging, responsibility dodging, negative, mean spirited, hypocritical, blaming little bitch. Your DNA are probably causing you to self sabotage so you cant reproduce because your very genetic code is so disgusted with you. Good.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets You haven't got a fucking clue what you are talking about, firstly I tried extremely hard to meet women, and was met with instant rejection because of my looks and perceived race (I look middle eastern/Arab), and where I live (Sydney), women hate Arab looking guys. You call me all these names, none of which apply to me, yet you call me a "mangina", and "mean spirited"? And even if I was a "mangina" or "mean spirited", there's a reason for it, YOU'RE CONTAGIOUS!!

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 do you ever bore yourself?

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets No, I don't bore myself, I have other hobbies and interests like sports, cars tec, typical bloke stuff.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets If anything PUAs, and their fanboys are the real manginas (not me), you know why?, because your whole self validation and sense of self worth as a man is based entirely on how many bar sluts/spoiled party girls you can fuck. You PUAs are the real MANGINAS, because in your delusional world, women can do no wrong. You call me "mean spirited"?, no way, you are the one who is mean spirited, when you insult me, and you don't even know me, or what I look like.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 wow, you wrote a whole essay here... if only I could be fucked to read it... but Im 3 G+Ts down and I dont read waffle written by self pitying sad sacks. Sorry.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets I am glad you are impressed by my "essay", no I am not a self pitying sad sacks, I am a straight shooter who tells like it is.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets I don't see anything wrong with valuing other qualities in a woman (apart from her looks), yet you see fit, to insult me and use shaming language on me (typical mangina tactic). If you are a good looking guy, who can pick up women, then more power to you, but don't make fun of/or insult not so good looking men like me, who find themselves challenged by dating, through no fault of their own. How I am to blame if women reject me because of my looks?

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 oh is the troll playing the victim card now? diddums!

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets Oh dear, more insults from another brainwashed PUA disciple. You know, you PUA clowns love to put guys like me down, but you can never come up with any solutions, just childish insults and shaming language.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets Tell me something Mr "Know it all on women", how exactly am I a [quote]suplicating little mangina! Weak willed, spineless, whinging, responsibility dodging, negative, mean spirited, hypocritical, blaming little bitch??.[/quote] As for being mean spirited, what a joke, I actually make friends very easily, because I treat everybody I meet with courtesy and respect. As for women, there's not much I can do if they reject me instantly (because of my race) is there?

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 nothing like hearing a troll whinge... they reject you because youre a fucking dick, deal with it

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets I am not a troll, and how is a woman supposed to know "I am a dick", when she doesn't even give me the chance to get to know me?? And if anything, aren't women attracted to jerks and dicks? You seem to make the false assumption that women always get it right when it comes to relationship choices. Well if women can pick up if I am a "dick", then can you explain to me why there is so much divorce?, and why are there so many single mothers?

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets And if i am a "fucking dick", there's a perfectly good reason for it, once again:

'YOU'RE CONTAGIOUS".

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 Keep locking yourself into that belief system and excusing your own lack of willingness to change.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets My "belief system", as you put it, is REALITY, not the POP PSYCHOLOGY/QUACKERY spewed out by the PUA industry, and its brainwashed disciples and fanboys. For your information I actually am willing to change to make myself more attractive to women. 8 months ago, i was out of shape, and looked like shit, so I joined a gym., worked out 6 to7 days a week, and now I have lost over 21kg (45lbs), and now at least I have a decent body.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets You talk about my belief system, and a lack of willingness to change?, I, and many other unattractive looking men have tried this PUA junk, and guess what? It doesn't work. And for your information, I am improving myself by getting into shape, and through hard work at the gym, I at least I have a decent body.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 still bleating whingey troll?

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets No, I am not a troll, I post on these Youtube videos to warn other men about these PUA con men, and you insult me, and make up all this bullshit about me, that I am a "mangina", "a dick", "mean spirited" etc. I try to have a sensible debate about how effective PUA really is, and you insult me, how fucking childish and immature.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 ok you are not a troll and I am childish and immature - but Im a childish immature guy who has sex with women better looking than me because of what these guys teach, but do please continue you on with your utube campaign... the blaming... and the not having sex thing. Its all good :)

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets Drop the false modesty, you have sex with women because they find you physically attractive. Sure you do martial arts, so therefore you have a good physique, and can kick the shit out of people, good luck to you. My issue is, you insult me just because women reject me instantly. If anything most of my rejections (I'd say 95%), didn't even get to the stage where I asked the woman out, I already knew I had been rejected by reading the woman's negative body language.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 No seriously, I have had guys come up to me in the street and say "how the fuck did you pull her? well done" - Im not out to convert you, I dont think I could even if I wanted to, you seem VERY determined, but the truth is this game is hugely psychological. As Ive gotten older, Ive gotten fatter and not prettier. But the girls I get are a lot prettier now than when I was younger because of psychology. Im living proof: Im uglier now yet I get better looking women.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets I don't know what to say?, but I still think you are better looking than what you claim to be, and if you feel that PUA has assisted you in improving your dating life, then good luck to you. My situation is different, I am often mistaken for being middle eastern/Arab looking (I am an Aussie of Italian parents), and where I live (Sydney, Australia), women hate and despise Arab looking men. There's not much I can do about racism and ethnic stereotyping.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 Im a psychology graduate and a master prac of NLP, I didnt know the term "PUA" until my ex bought me "the Game" because she knew I was into Derren Brown and she said it was similar material in principle. Which it kind of is. I put it down to a better than average understanding of psychology not "PUA" material as such which, yes, is sometimes overly complex bullshit and there are some wanky characters involved.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets l too have read "The Game", and whilst there may be some truth to it, I think a lot of it was made up/or exaggerated, but I can't prove that. Yes, I agree the PUA material is overly complex, and there are a lot of wankers in the PUA industry/community, although I have spoken to some decent PUAs.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 cont. "There's not much I can do about racism and ethnic stereotyping" I used to work as a counsellor. What amazed me was how clients would stack all the evidence that justified a belief that they said caused them to suffer. It would become a kind of "therapy tennis". I would hit them with a solution, they would fire back a rebuttal why that wouldnt work. So I gave up. I dont do counselling anymore. "You cant make the ones that wont and you cant stop the ones that will".

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@streetfightsecrets You have made some valid points here, and yes some people don't want to be helped. I can only be honest about my experiences with approaching women, and like I said, most of my rejections did not even get to the stage where I asked the woman out for a date/or her contact details. I already knew I had been rejected by reading the negative body language I was getting from the woman, when that happens I politely thank the woman for her time, and walk away.

[streetfightsecrets]

@InspectorMontelbano1 cont. they might be douchey (these are at root deeply insecure nerdy guys who taught themselves to be confident, its inevitable, and for all their douchiness at least they did it) and wanky at times, some of their material is definitely over complex in some ways (way over thought), but they cant be "quacks" or "scam artists" if their material works, which when applied, really really does.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

Mystery and all the PUA high priests of the PUA cult/scam are the biggest bunch of wankers on the face of this planet. Why don't these PUA liars, just come out and say that women (especially the drunk bar sluts), only care about LOOKS, and none of this PUA new age quackery doesn't work.

[cootwooter]

@InspectorMontelbano1 sounds like somebody doesnt get any poooooooooooooon

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@cootwooter So I don't get any women, so fucking what?, at least I am honest enough to admit that I have been challenged by dating, because of my below average looks. My point is, the PUA industry is a scam which targets lonely/or sexually frustrated men, usually ugly to average looking guys. I am 100% for men wanting to improve their dating lives, but wasting your hard earned on these PUA con men is not the way.

[cootwooter]

@InspectorMontelbano1 aha i was just kidding, expected you to be more egotistic then down on yourself, have you even tried it man? aha im not exactly good looking but i read the game and tried it out at a party, go figure, got myself a girl just by introducing a few steps into conversation, not even a full routine.

[InspectorMontelbano1]

@cootwooter To answer your question, yes, I have tried a little bit of PUA, and at best all it does, is that may make some women intrigued by you, NOT attracted, there is a major difference. With regards to your recent success, PUA played no part in your success, the girl you picked up was physically attracted to you first, if she wasn't no amount of "game", or any of that PUA quackery not have change her mind.

[ktistissotiris]

Does anybody knows where i can find the soundtrack of pick up artist show?

[legggggggggy]

@ktistissotiris In the show idiot.

[ktistissotiris]

@legggggggggy You have too many g stupid

[legggggggggy]

@ktistissotiris And g means? I dont understand your PUA language.

[ktistissotiris]

Respond to this video...  You have too many g stupid

[mikejordan80uvic]

@keijigo heat is measured in the same units as energy..in joules

[blackyblackblack505]

I wonder what it would take to be on the third season. If there is a third season.

[9678453]

I don’t like this guy, but I’m watching him anyway. I’m not envious; I just don’t like him.

[dogeban]

@9678453 what is it that you don't like about him? I am not here for a fight, just curious:)

[DELPHIIII]

its killajule like juelz santana

[gitfidil76]

He lost the douche Olympics. Too bad.

[r8qt7]

mystery what an ass ... get a real pua ...)

[keijigo]

Kiljoule is not a measurement of heat. It is a measurement of energy.

[tronuD2]

kilAjoule....

i remember that from high school. haha

[AndrewSchneiderVII]

it's kilojoule, which means 1000 joule ^__^

[plyzwthsqrlz]

You're both idiots. It's KiloJoule.

[intotherei]

that's true. but heat is pretty much energy

[jkyet]

@keijigo As we know from thermodynamics, both heat and work are types of energy, so yeah heat (in thermodynamics) is measured in kilojoules.

[SloeElvis]

@keijigo But heat is energy.

[LlednarJediMaster69]

@keijigo heat is energy...

[WillDee87]

damn i wanna be at mystery's parties!

[coogiorlando]

jsparkle is an idiot....Why do you even argue with him? How does he have all this time to post on youtube with all the dates he has? I am an (AFC) pua term and mystery and styles' writings have helped me grow in leaps and bound...Yeah Mystery hasnt taught at MIT...O wait, yes he has!

[intotherei]

STYLE !!! he's right next to kevin

[xoni20]

STYLE FTW ^_^ XD

[absoluteanatomy1]

lmao style jus standin there rubbin a hot ass bitches shoulders...so typical

[379110119]

lovin this video!! leave me a comment

wanting new friends MY

[22pinkmonkey]

want to chat with singles

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TALK TO ME k5

[Gippel]

jsparkle72 is nothing more than a big KJ

[JSparkleZ2]

KJ?

Either KiloJoule- a measurement of heat

or Kendal Jackson- a vintage of wine

If your calling me another of the silly names from your silly books then please define, i hate having to use google to figure out an insult (if that's even what this is for that matter)... Til then keep worshipping your snake oil salesman

[TheHuntress144]

THANK YOU! finally a guy who isn't blinded by mystery's tacky faux fur wardrobe. the guy is a douche, i've asked a few of my friends and some random girls in class and we all agree: mystery is a tool.

btw, i think he was calling you a kill joy...fourth grade insult

[JSparkleZ2]

Well humans ARE social creatures. The survival of our species is directly dependant on the ability of humans to communicate, interact, and help one another. Without the social dynamic people would to this day be living in caves and eating scraps of dead animals. If you are for any reason unable to participate in that process then I think you've missed the point of life period. How can you be more scared of "rejection" than "inaction". rejection is a learning experience, inaction is failure...

[JSparkleZ2]

Well that just boggles my mind. You have nothing to lose by talking to a stranger. You come with nothing and worse comes to worse you leave with nothing, really you can only break even or come out better for it. Opportunity isn't a scary thing, it's exciting. If you don't have the conviction to go out and get the things that you want then you won't make it very far in any aspect of life. I think it's pathetic when people let others tell them that they don't deserve the things they that want...

[JSparkleZ2]

Idk i personally just don't give a fuck if I do get "rejected"... As long as i've entertained myself I'm happy, if i get more than that i'm thrilled... I just talk to anyone who crosses my path regardless... I just never saw what was so tough about talking to anyone... It's really not hard to talk to girls, at least for me, if you don't care what the outcome is... Takes the pressure off... I've just never had trouble getting a date and i don't understand y dudes blow so much cash on these things

[JSparkleZ2]

Read the first chapter in the store and it bored me to tears... I couldn't even struggle through it, he continued on about cassanova blah blah blah...

I ended up taking the book to the counter, talked to the chick ringing me up, made fun of the book and the guy who wrote it, got her number and left the book...

I just don't get it, what's hard about talking to a girl?

[JSparkleZ2]

My guess is that the book is, like anything else, is common sense to ur average, non-awkward guy... So in the interest of being fair, since so many people like to tell me i'm the idiot, I'm going to go to barnes & noble now... I'll read it in a week and if i'm wrong i'll openly post what i thought was helpful... If not I'm going to post y i think it's non-sense...

[JSparkleZ2]

A) ok so you've never met him you're just taking him at his word, fair enough...

B)his contestants are self admitted losers who are there for advice, of course they're amazed...

C) We're in an economic crisis bc people waste money on dumb shit, cost doesn't equal effectiveness...

D) If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, then it's probably a duck... This guy makes a lot of money off this and he'll say anything to keep raking it in... I smell a bit of a scam here...

[visionimagify]

Man. you seriously need to get out of that shell. All this time wasting here trying to argue, you could be sarging. Instead, you're not. Try Magic Bullets by Love Systems. Either get it torrent, or buy it.

[JSparkleZ2]

A) I read that guy style's book bc i try not to ignorantly judge anything but it's just a bunch of crutches...

B) Have you seen him dating these women, let's not forget that he's in it to make money, to that end he'll tell you anything he wants...

C)If he did date really beatiful women is this b4 or after he was rich and semi-famous?

Food for thought... I think it's all silly and stupid but maybe it works for you... Cool if it does... P.S. anyone can get a fuckin date boss...

[JSparkleZ2]

I don't research him for the same reason I don't research red neck alien abductions... sometimes what you see is what you get... He has an amazing money making scam and he sure rakes it in, but anyone can get a date (and i mean fuckin anyone) and they don't need to dress like a social misfit.

[JSparkleZ2]

Damn right... Dude looks like the gay version of Howie Madell and he dresses like a 15 yr old goth girl... I don't know why anyone would even want to keep company with such a weirdo let alone take his advice...

[hanginwifmrcoop]

this guy mystery is such a fucking tool bag.

[reddvd]

Can anyone agree this "Mystery" guy is a complete tool who dresses bad???