they also believe in kicking down a blogger's home door to police possible stolen information. i guess to fight big brother, you have to become big brother.
@cforcalvin Umm.... Apple didn't kick down the door, in fact Apple didn't even file the complaint that lead to that. I guess to post on the internet you don't really need to know facts...
@TheKiDFoX yup cuz there are no facts- only evidence. link me to where you learned that Apple didn't file a complaint to the task force which they are a member of and if it's a blog, well i can show you tons of blogs that say the opposite. so who's right? nobody knows because Apple has chosen not to comment. why won't they say anything about it? i may not know facts but i have a brain.
@cforcalvin Been reported in several places, you can look it up, that the roomate of the person who took the phone gave the police tips that lead to the raids.
Apple does not run the cops, they do not break down doors. A judge signed the search warrant.... this is not rocket science.
Whatever was wrong with the raids it was the court and law enforcement in charge not Apple. No one said you don't have a brain I just think you re using it to bash Apple for a police error.
@TheKiDFoX i did look it up months ago when it was happening. Apple does not run the local cops but the local cops were not the ones who broke into Chen's house- "REACT" was the one who got a search warrant and did the raid. Apple is on the steering committee for REACT, and when questioned if they filed a complaint to them Apple remained silent, thus is why everyone assumes Apple nodded to the raid. this is days after Chen gave the phone back- nothing to do with the roommate calling local cops
@cforcalvin You're reaching here. Do you not understand the role of the steering committee? They do not tell law enforcement to run raids.
Even if Apple did file a complaint that lead to the raid no such raid takes place without a warrant singed by a judge.
The question really is was the warrant legal. If it was not that also is not Apple's fault EVEN if they filed a complaint that lead to the warrant, it is on the courts and law enforcement.
@TheKiDFoX lol yeah ok nothing is ever Apple's fault- their hands are always clean. This isn't the first raid React has done, stolen trade secrets is high priority. If Apple didn't file a complaint on that level (like say it was just theft they were complaining about) React wouldn't have sought a warrant to raid somebody's house to begin with. But you're right, it's everyone's fault except Apple's. Only Apple is blameless and they could never do wrong.
@cforcalvin Now you are exaggerating what I said. If a judge issued an illegal warrant how in the heck is that a corporations fault? Is Apple responsible for making sure a judge knows the law?
I never said Apple is always blameless. The steering committee has a specific task and it is not to tell judges the law or law enforcement, of which REACT is a part, how to do their jobs.
@TheKiDFoX it's the corporation's fault to bring it up in the first place. dude Apple and Chen already talked it out, they asked for the phone back and Chen gave it back and supposedly that was that. you're focusing on the legality of the raid and completely missed the point that Apple didn't have to file a complaint of stolen trade secrets. So you tell me, what do you think Apple expected when they cried stolen trade secrets? a warning? a nice chat with the suspect?
@cforcalvin I don't agree. I would certainly bring it up and I have no problems with them filing complaints against the person who stole and received stolen goods.
Are we really to believe they didn't know the phone belonged to someone else, i.e. that it may be stolen? Do you believe that?
No I have no trouble with whomever contacted law enforcement first. They should have turned this back over to Apple as soon as they knew what they had but they didn't do that.
@TheKiDFoX I don't fault Apple had they complained about plain theft- I fault them for complaining about stolen trade secrets after they already had their phone back. Who's "they"? I've never mentioned the fool who found the phone- that guy's a lowlife, but do YOU really think Gawker media would post a piece on the prototype iphone without asking Apple first? Why didn't Apple sue them then? Apple could've said no, give it back- but that wasn't in the statement.
@TheKiDFoX but here in lies the difference of opinion- i care less to what the legal definition of "stolen" is. don't bring the prototype out into a public restaurant and forget about it, period. for a company who's that anal about security, that's a major fail in my book. if i forgot $20 somewhere and I came back and it's not there, i have only myself to blame. now if someone returned it, that's really a blessing- but if they don't, i'm not going to void all responsibility for it.
@cforcalvin No one said it wasn't a major screw up on the part of the person who left it there. But if you found a cell phone in a bar and tried to activate it, which I understand happened, what is that? Clearly they were not trying to return it right?
They knew it was not theirs right?
So what is that? What is the definition of the word is?
I do care if an illegal search was executed though, I wouldn't gloss over that here either if a judge is that incompetent that's a story to me as well
@TheKiDFoX that one guy who kept the phone is a douche, of course. and what he alone did, was theft i agree- but to turn around and say that this whole debacle is about theft overall, you can see how this makes Apple look like a complete victim and Gizmodo a bunch of thieves, which is not what happened with Gizmodo. Chen didn't steal the phone, he paid off that douche just so the idiot would hand the phone over. and then he calls an Apple rep and negotiates:
@cforcalvin But that's the key point isn't it? Why would Chen assume this person he purchased the phone from had any right to have or sell a prototype of the iPhone 4? I don't buy for a second that they didn't know it was ill gotten, he would have to be ta total moron not know that.
So he purchased what he had ever reason to suspect was ill gotten goods. That is illegal in every state in this union.
It probably could have been handled better by everyone involved.
@TheKiDFoX no that's the thing, Chen didn't claim he assumed anything- he knew that thing didn't belong to the guy. he just paid him off quick so the idiot would hand the phone over- the dude was about to dismantle the phone and muck with it cuz he couldn't activate it. this is done with a possible story in mind is why- here's the iphone 4, nobody knows about it. if Chen calls the police on the douche there'd be no story. But so even if he paid him off, they DID contact Apple after to negotiate
@cforcalvin So he paid for what he had reason to suspect was stolen goods. That is illegal. I don't care if you are a blogger or a Pulitzer prize winner he was a fool to do that.
I am not disagreeing that things were handled badly by Apple as well but I don't begrudge them for filing complaints particularly against the person who originally took the phone.
@TheKiDFoX oh Chen's not a fool lol- Gizmodo's hits skyrocketed for that post. the guy probably got a raise. was it shady? sure, but that's not the first time in history a journalist has stooped to get a story.
but case in point (the original point), im not trying to make Apple look bad- i give Apple their props where its due. i have no problem either, with Apple going after the first guy- i just have a problem with any action taken after they got the phone back, and that's all.
@TheKiDFoX he said hey we have what we believe to be the iphone 4 prototype, would you let us do a piece on it? Apple gets scared and bluffs that's not a real prototype so it wouldn't do any good to post anything. But it's good for Gizmodo so they post it and then Apple calls back we want our phone back. Chen gives the phone back then the trade secret thing comes in and Chen's private home is broken into.
@TheKiDFoX the negotiation between Apple and Gizmodo i think was key in why it turned out so bad. but well, not that bad I guess it's not like it hurt iphone 4 sales. Gizmodo did actually post all the features that show why iphone 4 kicks ass
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Steve was convinced that b/w footage is more serious and whatnot. I'm proud that I ignored the witchcraft robotic brainwashing of the satanic Mac automatons.
My guess is that by the time he made this statement, he was already a near-billionaire. Given his unparalleled ego (and that is not said with disrespect), his reputation for not doing or wearing what people expected him to at the time (though the black shirt and jeans is getting a bit long in the tooth), it's safe to assume that he couldn't' care less what anybody thought. If I had a billion dollars and still wanted to work, I'd go in my pajamas like Hefner.
I miss him already... :(
icewalker3 4 months ago 5
Goodbye Steve, thumbs up for a tribute!
ShowPolitics 4 months ago
Steve Jobs will be missed Greatly, Thank you Steve
prolongtheend 4 months ago
why did he get fired from apple?
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This was right after his return to Apple, speaking to Apple employees about Apple's values and marketing.
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Every company would die for a CEO like Steve
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True ;)
NeedForApple 1 year ago
Can anyone tell me in which event is Steve Jobs talking in this video? Thanks!
iyemu 1 year ago
I am a passionate person. I gave one more step to change the work!
Brunasmom 1 year ago
they also believe in kicking down a blogger's home door to police possible stolen information. i guess to fight big brother, you have to become big brother.
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@cforcalvin Umm.... Apple didn't kick down the door, in fact Apple didn't even file the complaint that lead to that. I guess to post on the internet you don't really need to know facts...
TheKiDFoX 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX yup cuz there are no facts- only evidence. link me to where you learned that Apple didn't file a complaint to the task force which they are a member of and if it's a blog, well i can show you tons of blogs that say the opposite. so who's right? nobody knows because Apple has chosen not to comment. why won't they say anything about it? i may not know facts but i have a brain.
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@cforcalvin Been reported in several places, you can look it up, that the roomate of the person who took the phone gave the police tips that lead to the raids.
Apple does not run the cops, they do not break down doors. A judge signed the search warrant.... this is not rocket science.
Whatever was wrong with the raids it was the court and law enforcement in charge not Apple. No one said you don't have a brain I just think you re using it to bash Apple for a police error.
TheKiDFoX 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX i did look it up months ago when it was happening. Apple does not run the local cops but the local cops were not the ones who broke into Chen's house- "REACT" was the one who got a search warrant and did the raid. Apple is on the steering committee for REACT, and when questioned if they filed a complaint to them Apple remained silent, thus is why everyone assumes Apple nodded to the raid. this is days after Chen gave the phone back- nothing to do with the roommate calling local cops
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@cforcalvin You're reaching here. Do you not understand the role of the steering committee? They do not tell law enforcement to run raids.
Even if Apple did file a complaint that lead to the raid no such raid takes place without a warrant singed by a judge.
The question really is was the warrant legal. If it was not that also is not Apple's fault EVEN if they filed a complaint that lead to the warrant, it is on the courts and law enforcement.
TheKiDFoX 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX lol yeah ok nothing is ever Apple's fault- their hands are always clean. This isn't the first raid React has done, stolen trade secrets is high priority. If Apple didn't file a complaint on that level (like say it was just theft they were complaining about) React wouldn't have sought a warrant to raid somebody's house to begin with. But you're right, it's everyone's fault except Apple's. Only Apple is blameless and they could never do wrong.
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@cforcalvin Now you are exaggerating what I said. If a judge issued an illegal warrant how in the heck is that a corporations fault? Is Apple responsible for making sure a judge knows the law?
I never said Apple is always blameless. The steering committee has a specific task and it is not to tell judges the law or law enforcement, of which REACT is a part, how to do their jobs.
You know sometimes things just are what they are.
TheKiDFoX 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX it's the corporation's fault to bring it up in the first place. dude Apple and Chen already talked it out, they asked for the phone back and Chen gave it back and supposedly that was that. you're focusing on the legality of the raid and completely missed the point that Apple didn't have to file a complaint of stolen trade secrets. So you tell me, what do you think Apple expected when they cried stolen trade secrets? a warning? a nice chat with the suspect?
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@cforcalvin I don't agree. I would certainly bring it up and I have no problems with them filing complaints against the person who stole and received stolen goods.
Are we really to believe they didn't know the phone belonged to someone else, i.e. that it may be stolen? Do you believe that?
No I have no trouble with whomever contacted law enforcement first. They should have turned this back over to Apple as soon as they knew what they had but they didn't do that.
TheKiDFoX 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX I don't fault Apple had they complained about plain theft- I fault them for complaining about stolen trade secrets after they already had their phone back. Who's "they"? I've never mentioned the fool who found the phone- that guy's a lowlife, but do YOU really think Gawker media would post a piece on the prototype iphone without asking Apple first? Why didn't Apple sue them then? Apple could've said no, give it back- but that wasn't in the statement.
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX but here in lies the difference of opinion- i care less to what the legal definition of "stolen" is. don't bring the prototype out into a public restaurant and forget about it, period. for a company who's that anal about security, that's a major fail in my book. if i forgot $20 somewhere and I came back and it's not there, i have only myself to blame. now if someone returned it, that's really a blessing- but if they don't, i'm not going to void all responsibility for it.
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@cforcalvin No one said it wasn't a major screw up on the part of the person who left it there. But if you found a cell phone in a bar and tried to activate it, which I understand happened, what is that? Clearly they were not trying to return it right?
They knew it was not theirs right?
So what is that? What is the definition of the word is?
I do care if an illegal search was executed though, I wouldn't gloss over that here either if a judge is that incompetent that's a story to me as well
TheKiDFoX 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX that one guy who kept the phone is a douche, of course. and what he alone did, was theft i agree- but to turn around and say that this whole debacle is about theft overall, you can see how this makes Apple look like a complete victim and Gizmodo a bunch of thieves, which is not what happened with Gizmodo. Chen didn't steal the phone, he paid off that douche just so the idiot would hand the phone over. and then he calls an Apple rep and negotiates:
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@cforcalvin But that's the key point isn't it? Why would Chen assume this person he purchased the phone from had any right to have or sell a prototype of the iPhone 4? I don't buy for a second that they didn't know it was ill gotten, he would have to be ta total moron not know that.
So he purchased what he had ever reason to suspect was ill gotten goods. That is illegal in every state in this union.
It probably could have been handled better by everyone involved.
TheKiDFoX 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX no that's the thing, Chen didn't claim he assumed anything- he knew that thing didn't belong to the guy. he just paid him off quick so the idiot would hand the phone over- the dude was about to dismantle the phone and muck with it cuz he couldn't activate it. this is done with a possible story in mind is why- here's the iphone 4, nobody knows about it. if Chen calls the police on the douche there'd be no story. But so even if he paid him off, they DID contact Apple after to negotiate
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@cforcalvin So he paid for what he had reason to suspect was stolen goods. That is illegal. I don't care if you are a blogger or a Pulitzer prize winner he was a fool to do that.
I am not disagreeing that things were handled badly by Apple as well but I don't begrudge them for filing complaints particularly against the person who originally took the phone.
TheKiDFoX 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX oh Chen's not a fool lol- Gizmodo's hits skyrocketed for that post. the guy probably got a raise. was it shady? sure, but that's not the first time in history a journalist has stooped to get a story.
but case in point (the original point), im not trying to make Apple look bad- i give Apple their props where its due. i have no problem either, with Apple going after the first guy- i just have a problem with any action taken after they got the phone back, and that's all.
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX he said hey we have what we believe to be the iphone 4 prototype, would you let us do a piece on it? Apple gets scared and bluffs that's not a real prototype so it wouldn't do any good to post anything. But it's good for Gizmodo so they post it and then Apple calls back we want our phone back. Chen gives the phone back then the trade secret thing comes in and Chen's private home is broken into.
cforcalvin 1 year ago
@TheKiDFoX the negotiation between Apple and Gizmodo i think was key in why it turned out so bad. but well, not that bad I guess it's not like it hurt iphone 4 sales. Gizmodo did actually post all the features that show why iphone 4 kicks ass
cforcalvin 1 year ago
lame
C0C0W00 1 year ago
Douche
Filipbjo 1 year ago
Dude he just fucked his shit up
ethanhuntersmith 1 year ago
fake and gay steve jobs is a bitch who screws over people out of jobs
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mikeG584 2 years ago
LOL! Steve Jobs talking about changing the world....that money-minded people-fooler
WiteBot 2 years ago
10/4! I'm proud that I ignored the witchcraft robotic brainwashing of the satanic Mac automatons.
Get a Dell, dude !!!
xxxMrSuspendedxxx 2 years ago
Ahahahahahahah non capisco un tubo di quello che dice, ma vederlo in pantaloncini mi fa crepare dal ridere...
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Steve sei un grande...
LeoCikky 2 years ago
Incredibly true..
misticity24 2 years ago 2
great words.
they can be applied to everyone's life.
(minus the part about making boxes :-)
ambientdotme 2 years ago
Surely they had color video in 1997! This isn't that old :)
jojomojo47 2 years ago
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Steve was convinced that b/w footage is more serious and whatnot. I'm proud that I ignored the witchcraft robotic brainwashing of the satanic Mac automatons.
Get a Dell, dude !!!
xxxMrSuspendedxxx 2 years ago
My guess is that by the time he made this statement, he was already a near-billionaire. Given his unparalleled ego (and that is not said with disrespect), his reputation for not doing or wearing what people expected him to at the time (though the black shirt and jeans is getting a bit long in the tooth), it's safe to assume that he couldn't' care less what anybody thought. If I had a billion dollars and still wanted to work, I'd go in my pajamas like Hefner.
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10/4! I'm proud that I ignored the witchcraft robotic brainwashing of the satanic Mac automatons.
Get a Dell, dude !!!
xxxMrSuspendedxxx 2 years ago
THOSE SHORTS.
(has anyone ever seen Jobs in shorts before?)
callwithcurrentconti 2 years ago 18
I don't think anyone has.
Beside Apple employees.
iEras3di 2 years ago
Short, nice, meaningful 1-minute video. This is awesome, one of the best videos I've ever watched. Thanks for the video.
garindrapp 2 years ago 2
THats a brave and bright man you got there!
abdulnafie 3 years ago 4
its so strange seeing him on shorts this is the first time i'm seeing him wear shorts
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10/4! I'm proud that I ignored the witchcraft robotic brainwashing of the satanic Mac automatons.
Get a Dell, dude !!!
xxxMrSuspendedxxx 2 years ago
damn he is in shorts
thelegendarypaki 3 years ago
you know, back then, Steve was like a real unique person, he still is... but not as much...
EuroCarfan00 4 years ago
10/4! I'm proud that I ignored the witchcraft robotic brainwashing of the satanic Mac automatons.
Get a Dell, dude !!!
xxxMrSuspendedxxx 2 years ago
this is VERY rare... this is like in 1997 or like 1999...
EuroCarfan00 4 years ago 2
dude, this is rare man!! rare and great!
i am like.. DUDE WTF :) thnx for uploading
Lowlw 4 years ago