IF THERE ARE ANY INDIAN HINDUS WHO SUPPORTS THIS KAZAKH GOVT ACTION STATING ISKCON IS CONVERTING PEOPLE AND THEREFORE IT IS RIGHT ACTION THEN IT REFLECTS WHY HINDUS ARE TORTURED AND PROSECUTED IN THIER OWN COUNTRY!!! HINDUS ARE JUST IDIOTS , PARTICULARLY INDIAN HINDUS! INSTEAD OF STANDING BESIDE OUR KAZAKH BROTHERS WE ARE CURSING THEM! THIS IS CALLED ROTTEN INTELLECT!
How is it " debatable" Al-Jazeera ? They legally purchased the land, they have all of the documents to prove it. On top of that, they spent years developing that land and their community..What this Kazakh government is doing is criminal, very Inhumane.
We need religious freedom in Kazakhstan. I would be just as digusted if my fellow Hare Krishnas did this to Muslims. All people should have the right to worship, according to their conscience. Quran says " There's No Compulsion In Religion" .
I'm an Indian Hindu. As a Hindu, I believe that proselytism by ALL religions is wrong and should be condemned. Hinduism is a faith that is culturally attached to the Indian subcontinent.
Although it claims to be Hindu, the Hare Krishna society engages in actively converting non-Indians, something which is against the very foundation of Hinduism.
Thus, the action of the Hare Krishnas in Kazakhstan is wrong, just as the action of Christian missionaries in India is wrong.
@SJJGautham08 there is a difference between isckon conversions and christian missionaries. isckon is converting only by spreading preachings of bhagwan krishna they are not forcing anyone to convert but on another hand missionaries are converting people by fooling poor and illiterate people by showing them false magic. I studied in a convent school and in front of my eyes my 2 classmates were converted to christians in exchange of rebate in fees they are exloiting weak financial state of people
@SJJGautham08 i think the level of spiritual knowledge that the so called foreign converts hold about Hinduism and the way they lead their lives is way better than hypocrite commentators as you sitting there blabbering without holding a single dime of knowledge about Hinduism!
@iamgama I've actually been trained in Hinduism all my life, and in fact, I'm planning to become a priest. That's besides the point. Hinduism is much more diverse and all-encompassing than what the ISKCON people practice. The basic premise of Hinduism is that all paths lead to God. By proselytizing, these people are undermining that basic premise. More importantly, by converting, they are abandoning their native religious heritage and betraying their ancestors. That is unforgivable in Hinduism.
@youonagin Hinduism is much more diverse and all-encompassing than what the ISKCON people practice. The basic premise of Hinduism is that all paths lead to God. By proselytizing, these people are undermining that basic premise. More importantly, by converting, they are abandoning their native religious heritage and betraying their ancestors. That is unforgivable in Hinduism.
@articzoo hey....pig.....is that what Jesus Christ told ya apart from raping kids in their ass.......Christ never said he was a god......its only assholes like you who made him one and Christianity........and forme, I don't give a crap to any god.....so piss off....let others live you molested kid......and go to a court to sue the pastor who sodomized you......instead of ranting online against innocents.....
LOL islam how typical! weak pathetic oppressive mind shackling religion. All we need is to send 10 Brahmins to Kazakhstan to debate the mullahs and you will see people converting en masse.
All it took was one Prabhupada to create a revolution. And Prabhupada really isnt that great a guru.
Where are all the human rights groups, thinkers,philosophers,intellectuals,freedom lovers,democrats.This is evil regime of ISLAM in khazakastan - most bigoted, most cruel, most fascist, most hatemongering.
hinduism allows all religions to co exits ,, we believe god is infinite, and he can not smell or sense ,colour ,race ,background as he is a soul, so he is unable to discriminat, the oly thing he can sense is love, whatever form u love him in, he will love you back in that form. be it allah be it krishna
@mayur500 "he is a soul, so he is unable to discriminat"
God isnt just a soul. God is Paramatman. And that is an attribute of God, if you consider it so.
God can discriminate. His knowledge of things are unrivalled. But what I think yo mean is that He is neutral to All, everyone has the right to approach and serve Him regardless of whatever barriers. Yes God is equal to everyone, because all are subject to Him and therefore sub-ordinate.
The process of spiritual realization in this age is not temple worship as in previous age, but a congregational chanting of Holy names of God. He has many names, but if one thinks no need to make any temple - then he becomes impersonalist and himself is neither good muslim nor good vaisnava (Hare-Krishna).
its sad KC is facing such problems in kazhakstan. but let's not get into fights over religious supremacy here. KC is not a religion. its a spiritual movement. simply to remind us that either we should follow our faith honestly and if we can't relate to it for any reason, then join KC. it accepts everyone. though the best bet is to stick to what you do the best. whether you call him krishna, allah, jesus, yaweh whatever...lord's names are just as great as the lord!
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What would you know about the truth? You certainly won't find it in a cult started by an old fart who conned doped-up hippies into panhandling for him and honing their skills into the most sophisticated scams ever perpetrated against honest Americans. The child abuse was catastrophic. The kids getting into HK today are bored little brats, wanting to recapture the "romance" of the 60's/70's. But look, the 60's are over and YOU WEREN'T THERE. Get over it and get a life.
Kazakh's hate krishna false religion ,hindu religion's or india religion do not fit in kazakh culture ,if any kazakh go to india and smell indain man or women wil not be hindu or krishna any more becuse follower of this religion have bad smell
u r wrong you probably have worse smells than hare krishna devotees....they only eat organic fruits and vegetables and no onions, chillies and garlic and stimulants unlike a barbarian like you who eats every kind of meat and takes intoxicants....stupid ass....their sweat smells nicer than your breadth...
70% of kazakhstan peoples are muslim! so our country is muslim country!but we(gov.and muslims) respect other religious,the problem is most of Christians don't respect our religiou
Do you mean screwing? Learn how to spell... Islam is one of the world's fastest growing religion- why? Because, we believe in the Torah, the Bible and the Quran- three holy books.
We do not worship pictures nor statues- only God almighty.
The Quran explained how a baby grows during pregnancy way before it was showed by science, how rain develops and so on.
So yes that's the reason for the conversion- not screwing.
All of those books are child's play compared to the bhagavad gita and srimad bhagavatam....but your lame brain would never understand such concepts because you believe in a desert cult...
.ur people visit the KAABA walk around 7 times it and then TOUCH AND KISS THE BLACLK STONE.just like idolworshippers..your history shows how intoralant it is.Those ppl use idols to represtn god ARE ACTUALLY WORTH SO MUCH MORE.they belive in women rights...they never CONVERT OTHERS...they never use religon to kill others.INFACT those faiths CO-EXIST 2GTHER without any violoence.its those tplaces where te fundentals of maths and sciece arose...those ppl are true god loving ppl.islam is a cult.
lol so ur people who belive in a god without no face just like a ghost who tells his belivers to convert the non belivers if they dont make them suffer...it states taht women are mens rewards, it makes them cover up hed to toe.....in every muslim country all other religons are made to suffer to the point of extinction.......YOUR GOD does this your god killed so many in the name of faith.......
That is not totally true. An average Muslim woman in an Islamic Nation has about 8-10 kids. Most of the converts to Islam are mostly the not so uneducated, or prison convicts. According to Islamic sources 90% of converts to Islam leave it within 2-3 years. I hope you wont jump on me like a Jihadi now.
according to bhagawad geetha a leraned person is the one who understands the supreme truth and lord sri krishna. the present caste system in india is not religiously sanctioned. it is man made.
look believe it or not i have read parts of the geeta. it is very interesting. i use ayurvedic medicine myself and it is very interesting. i am of indian descent myself. belive it or not my own mother is herself Telugu. do i agree with this event here, no i dont. but why should people start bashing muslims and not blame the govt of kazakhstan? this is a secular communist state run by ex soviet communist party members. they do the same shit to muslims too. so why blame muslims then?
and while i dont agree with this action, now you know what babri masjid felt like for us, masjids in gujarat demolished, or masjids demolished during riots across india in modern times. forget the past, or who did want centuries ago, shivaji was not soo innocent himself you know, but now in modern india, why does so much prejudice exists? this is not gandhiji's india, a man i greatly admire. why cant people accept, and embrace the diverse nature of india, from its religions, languages, etc.?
babri masjid stood at one of the most sacred place of Hindus i.e. birth place of Lord Ram. It was constructed by destroying Hindi Temple and one could see beheaded Hindu gods and goddesses in its walls.
Most importantly it was a non-functional masjid kept in locks for for 60years. Muslims never pray there.
Now imagine a temple of church in mecca. Will you let that stand a second. Answer with your *non-prejudiced* mind or soul or whatever.
Millions of temples destroyed and ravaged, more 80 million Hindus killed, millions of Hindu women sold off as sex slaves, all Hindus finished off in Pakistan and Bangladesh. 7.5% in 1947 and now 20% of India's population and still Muslims complain. Does someone see he irony here!
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I'm fro Israel and I'm working in Kazakhstan. I've seen these krishna people, they are so many and always asking money, even my friend got beaten by krishnas. I;m very glad that they are doing such a good things like destroying KRISHNAs. There must be only one jewish religion!
look at the condition of pakistani hindus. in india in every field muslims made their presence. in politics, sports, movies, academics everywhere tehy are there.
i will agree with you on one thing. that the minorities of south asia are treated badly. you can claim what you want about these token muslims, yet look at the sachar commission report. half of all indians living in poverty are muslim. half of all muslims live in poverty in india. half of all muslims in india are self employed because of job discrimination. muslims are harrassed by the police, which doesnt happen to hindus in pak, hindus in pak dont have anti terror laws agains them, etc.
"hindus in pak dont have anti terror laws agains them" because hindus dont run around bombing ppl, its only the muslims and mohamedans that run around trying to kill everyone "waging war on the non-believers".
Thx for proving my point. & hey dont try to sob shoulder boo-hoo job about the poor, it is a standard text book practice by those who wish to amass political power and support quickly in a short time by appealing to the masses of poor ppl. communists did it, and that muslims do it just
goes to reveal their true colors and true ambition which is global illuminati and domination.
btw, u bin messin wit dat endo weed too much mr. muslim who cant drink alkihole but smokin eni-thang he kin git 'is 'ands on is kool by the koran-dude, why you're so crunked up on buddha that you cant see straight mate.
so go on recruiting sudras and tellin 'em deir better than evi8ody and how they're "entitled" to this and that, just sign up as a muslim and bla bla bla bla.
(contd) at the end of kaliyug also my lord will come and put an end to all these activities. remember lord srikrishna himself said taht "whenever and whereever irreligion predominates religion and holy people are tortured, for the benifit of my devotees and for punishing the evil i descend myself." hare krishna
i am very sad to hear this. but to all people who felt sad seeing this i would like to say the following things.
whenever adharma rules dharma these kind of things happen. before the advent of lord narasimha the demon king hiranyakasipa had done the same. the demon king removed all the deities of god and replaced them with his idols.the devotees were tortured but finally the supreme lord krishna came and ended all that. at the end of kaliyug also my lord will surely come (contd)
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Hare krishnas are parasites. They never invented anything, they never built anything, they never created anything useful and good. Give up on that fake religion and seek the one true God. He revealed Himself to us in the person/deity of Jesus Christ. Jesus lives, and in Him is life. Read the gospel of John, visit the American Tract Society web site, repent of your sins and pray to receive Christ and be born again, fellowship with a local body of saints (believers in Christ).
it's amazing how dharmic religions can be so tolerant of other religions, yet so much contempt and disgust is seen on the part of the abrahamic religions.
blah blah blah. Anyone that is truly in touch with their faith in God is not intolerant. Look at what Hindu's and even some Buddhists have done in their past and try to not judge...as I am sure your Dharmic religion would tell you.
two wrongs don't make it right so I think you should take your own advice if you don't want to speak for these people whose freedom is being taken away
I am not speaking to the Hare Krsna's; I am talking about your foolish and ill informed opinion that Dharmic religions have never done anything like this. But by all means, continue to delude yourself.
that's a joke, look at how people of the abrahamic religons are treated by people of this 'dharma' religion, from church bombings, mosque demolitions, to discrimination against minorities. spare me your nonsense.
from your point of view look at malaysia. do minorities have equal rights in malaysia as taht of majority muslims? yoga is banned in malaysia for muslims. why is it so? nowhere in the world do minorities get the treatment like in india. coming to the point of gujarat etc, i feel sad for wht had happened but i am just reminding u the cause for taht. every life have equal value whether hindus, muslims or christians.
yoga is not banned in malaysia, and i will agree with on one point. that minorities across south asia need to be treated better.
and so do the lower caste hindus as well, the dalits who are treated like garbage by their own fellow hindus. if brahmans dont want them, then let them convert to other faiths who will show them the true meaning of equality.
the caste system in india is a true menace. it is bcoz of teh ignorance of the people (ignorance in vedic knowledeg). dharma nad love for god is not related to how others treat us. it is an intimate relation btw us and god, the unalloyed love. like in every culture u see there are kings, soldiers, merchants and working class and tahts the same in india as well.
there is nothing wrong with being a spiritual person and you seem like a reasonable man. so i would like to know do you practice tradiitonal hinduism, or are you a follower of hindutva? because it just seems to me that people who are fanatics hide behind religion to justify thier own prejudices. not to mention imposing hindi on all of india, which is an insult to the dravidian speaking people of south india. i speak hindi too, but their languages should be respected.
Killing is the order of the day in Islam. Don't try to lecture me dude, I was a Sunni Muslim from Pakistan till Krishna blessed me with his divine grace. May he show you the light too and free you from the bonds of the evil you follow now.
I practise Hare Krishna,I follow iskcon, you cannot talk like that of islam,it is false, it is Krishna's mercy that he revealed himself in different time and circumstances,like buddha,and sent his devotee to reveal koran,or bibel, or toran, the scriptures is for how far you have come in the spiritual path,you cannot say like this about other religions.
You can attain god in any religion if they are properly followed you can even fall when practising KC,KC is not bullet proof it depends on you
@sufifuck you're replying to a lot of comments here... you don't seem to practice your religion at all. You don't seem humble or tolerant. You're full of hatred and I suggest you go to whichever Temple you usually go to and get cleansed and meditate.
lol, first start treating your own muslim brothers like the qadyanis, shias and others with respect. Low caste Hindus have every right in India today and are even better provided than Upper caste Hindus. a lecture on tolerance by a Muslim. This has got to be the biggest joke of the century.
@sufifuck Add Ahmadiyyas and Sufis to the list! Peaceful Muslims are being targetted by the bigoted mainstream muslims! where are the moderates? they are fast asleep! when will they be vocal? ONLY when we condemn Islam!
Is Allah really God? Are Muslims followers of God? Funny because Hare Krishnas follow the concept of Wahid and Tawhid more than muslims themselves!
xgotfiveonitx, please spare me your nonsense. you are simply the product of islamic rule in india. we can only speculate on how your forefathers were converted, but all have a pretty good idea (except for you). so please spare me your comments on how people of dharmic religions treat others; they treat others far better than they are treated from the rest
Muslim nations are real fuckin' assholes... They want "Equal Rights" in non-Muslim democracies but don't want to give other minorities Equal Rights...
what does muslim have to do with this? khazakstan is a communicst country. they do the same shit to muslims too. besides you guys tore down babri masjid, now you know what it feels like! dont talk about minority equal rights, when hindus in india cant even display it themselves. from the gujarat riots, bombay riots, to fanatics like the bjp, rss and shiv sena. i know i have seen first hand with my own eyes in bombay.
India have had more Muslim leaders since 1947 than your cunt Muslim nations ever will have non-Muslims... India's most recently retired President was not just the man who built India's rocket and modern weapons program but also became its President... and not just now, India had them for decades since... They earned it with their education along with Sikhs and Hindus... picked by the World's Largest Democracy based on their merits, not based on their religion...
wow your bigotry shines through brahman boy. im indian myself moron. no prime minister has been muslim in india. half of all indians living in poverty are muslims. half of all muslims live in poverty. police harrassment and even accusing muslims of bombing thier own mosques. plus njot to mention the bjp, i have seen thier handiwork first hand and the shive sena and the rrs. you know jinnah was right after all, and guys like you prove it, so fuck off.
You are such a bigot, name calling is a sign of bigotry. Muslims are experts in lying and you are a living example of that. This is why the whole world is calling you a terrorist.
Plus, Babri Masjid was a Hindu Temple... If you have not yet read how much destruction Islam caused not just in its own shitty, sandy, barren homeland of Arabia but also in civilized nations like India, then I'd suggest you read the world's history again...
ya its soo shitty thats why all the hindus run there for jobs. and spare me your hindu fanatic propoganda that is discredited by every credible indian historian and archeologist out there brahman boy. funny theres a case in u.p. of a dispute over a mandir between two priests. guess what the evidence is? a title written in farsi and sined by arungazeb himself. whats a matter bjp doesnt teach you that?
i am sorry for your prejudices. i accept taht wht u have mentioned are sadly true but u mentioned only one side of teh story. hindus in india are highly tolerant to other religions. u can see that by the incraesing number of mosques etc in the country. also gujarat riots are a result of burning of karsevaka women and children in a train. did u forget the amarnath land isuue where hindus in their own country were denied land for basic pilgrimage facilities bcoz of fanatics
your accusing me of prejudice while you support fanatics like the bjp, rss and shiv sena? i can say the same thing, look at indonesia, how many hindus live there? look at malaysia as well. you brought up the kashmir land issue, there is also two sides to that, and as for gujarat, the rss burned that train from the inside, and on top of that, it was over an argument with bandiwalas who just happen to be muslims, so all the muslims have to pay? how many mosques have been demolished in india?
no one ever hears of any other church members suicide-bombing and murdering innocent civilians, but how many times have people heard that muslims bombed this, muslims shot that, look at the recent Mumbai drama. Sooner or later the world will wake up that Islam is not the peaceful religion they would have us believe, no, it is nothing more than a doctrine to wage guilt-free war and terror on the kufri, the non-believers. Such type of Islam and propogaters, should be put down with extreme prejudic
what a joke, the leader of the tamil tigers, who have killed more people from suicide bombings, including former indian pm rajiv gandh in 91', than all the mid east groups combined is himself guess what? a christian! as for BOMBAY, we dont know who did that, all we know is what the govt propoganda is, and alot of is now pointing to the bombay mafia underworld so spare me your bigotry jackass.
How many mosques have been destroyed. Please tell us. I would love to share your information. I would love to share with you the millions of temples that have been destroyed in pakistan and Bangladesh in the recent times. I am not even talking history here.
Did you know that the Hare Krishna were first responders in Katrina. Fed thousands of people who all said it was the best food ever, even tho it was vegetaraian. They know how to feed people!They do it beautifully as well.
What a pathetic policy. Krishnas might be kind of weird for most people, but they are peaceful and they bother no one. So what is the point of picking on them or persecuting them.
Kazakhstan might have gotten a bad rap from the Borat movie. But if they continue down the road of religious persecution then that reputation will be very fitting.
This issue indeed has deeper roots. Hare Krishnas were just the first group to experience such a treat from the state. Last year 12 similar cases filed by the government against different religious minorities with the same scenario.
Situation may worsen after adopting new religion legistlation being reviewed by the parliament upper chamber these days.
Do you really beleive Kazakhstan can teach the world of what tolerance is?
It is doubtful Kazakhstan deserves OSCE chairmanship after all that.
Meh. The Krsnas are the real deal. They don't need land, money, institutions etc...
If you tore down any Christian or Muslim Church things would go sour VERY QUICKLY but the Krsnas are a different matter. Governments KNOW that they can push Krsnas around because of their principals.
The greatest Krsna conscious leader Srila Prabhupada was POISONED to death by government spies who infiltrated his religious organization. To this day the society that Prabhupada founded is under covert control.
Why isn't Al Jazeera telling us why were their land purchase invalid? Because they assume that it is too boring to use airtime? Actually, that is the only relevant piece of information in understanding why they are being kicked out, and all anti-government speculations seem to be the entertainment Al Jazeera offers for the masses, so that they would believe in the just capitalist society. In reality, the governments are not interested in changing what is happening. Media brainwash bullshit.
I mean Al Jazeera serves the government by making people believe that in the society, bad things are critized openly. Instead, Al Jazeera twists the events to seem that they have been given publicity and the same time takes attention away from the fact that the media is not going to talk about the reasons why the government is attacking these religious people.
What would really double me, would be when ordinary post-modern people, who believe in 'freedom of speech' tell me that it is only my preference to think that the reason of invalidity of the land contract is relevant in this case. However, it is logically the only relevant case. How do you like them apples?
Stay strong brothers.
MrIndoCanadian 2 months ago
Mr Narendra Modi should do something for these Vedic people.
MrIndoCanadian 2 months ago
@articzoo First of all Hindu is a word given by Persians as an insult to people living in India just like niggers to Africans.
MrIndoCanadian 2 months ago
Kazakhstan is Muslims nation. Islam is Terrorism
htgajjar 7 months ago
@htgajjar Are you sure in your statement?
alberthepooh 4 months ago
IF THERE ARE ANY INDIAN HINDUS WHO SUPPORTS THIS KAZAKH GOVT ACTION STATING ISKCON IS CONVERTING PEOPLE AND THEREFORE IT IS RIGHT ACTION THEN IT REFLECTS WHY HINDUS ARE TORTURED AND PROSECUTED IN THIER OWN COUNTRY!!! HINDUS ARE JUST IDIOTS , PARTICULARLY INDIAN HINDUS! INSTEAD OF STANDING BESIDE OUR KAZAKH BROTHERS WE ARE CURSING THEM! THIS IS CALLED ROTTEN INTELLECT!
yogibisu 7 months ago
India should interference in this matter and Indian hindus should help kazak hindus
sahil3486 10 months ago 3
should we do the same to muslims in India ???
their so called Religion of PEACE ???
abhishekutkarsh 10 months ago
How is it " debatable" Al-Jazeera ? They legally purchased the land, they have all of the documents to prove it. On top of that, they spent years developing that land and their community..What this Kazakh government is doing is criminal, very Inhumane.
We need religious freedom in Kazakhstan. I would be just as digusted if my fellow Hare Krishnas did this to Muslims. All people should have the right to worship, according to their conscience. Quran says " There's No Compulsion In Religion" .
VaishnavaCR 11 months ago
I'm an Indian Hindu. As a Hindu, I believe that proselytism by ALL religions is wrong and should be condemned. Hinduism is a faith that is culturally attached to the Indian subcontinent.
Although it claims to be Hindu, the Hare Krishna society engages in actively converting non-Indians, something which is against the very foundation of Hinduism.
Thus, the action of the Hare Krishnas in Kazakhstan is wrong, just as the action of Christian missionaries in India is wrong.
SJJGautham08 1 year ago
@SJJGautham08 there is a difference between isckon conversions and christian missionaries. isckon is converting only by spreading preachings of bhagwan krishna they are not forcing anyone to convert but on another hand missionaries are converting people by fooling poor and illiterate people by showing them false magic. I studied in a convent school and in front of my eyes my 2 classmates were converted to christians in exchange of rebate in fees they are exloiting weak financial state of people
narsinghDEV 6 months ago 2
@SJJGautham08 i think the level of spiritual knowledge that the so called foreign converts hold about Hinduism and the way they lead their lives is way better than hypocrite commentators as you sitting there blabbering without holding a single dime of knowledge about Hinduism!
iamgama 6 months ago
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@iamgama I've actually been trained in Hinduism all my life, and in fact, I'm planning to become a priest. That's besides the point. Hinduism is much more diverse and all-encompassing than what the ISKCON people practice. The basic premise of Hinduism is that all paths lead to God. By proselytizing, these people are undermining that basic premise. More importantly, by converting, they are abandoning their native religious heritage and betraying their ancestors. That is unforgivable in Hinduism.
SJJGautham08 6 months ago
@SJJGautham08
What is against non-Indians realising they want to adhere to Sanatana Dharma?
What is 'racial', 'geographic', or 'political' about Vedic wisdom and knowledge?
Ofcourse proselytism and (especially) forceful conversion is wrong.
But I hope you are not saying that divine essentials are not for non-Indians!!!
youonagin 5 months ago
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@youonagin Hinduism is much more diverse and all-encompassing than what the ISKCON people practice. The basic premise of Hinduism is that all paths lead to God. By proselytizing, these people are undermining that basic premise. More importantly, by converting, they are abandoning their native religious heritage and betraying their ancestors. That is unforgivable in Hinduism.
SJJGautham08 5 months ago
@articzoo hey....pig.....is that what Jesus Christ told ya apart from raping kids in their ass.......Christ never said he was a god......its only assholes like you who made him one and Christianity........and forme, I don't give a crap to any god.....so piss off....let others live you molested kid......and go to a court to sue the pastor who sodomized you......instead of ranting online against innocents.....
foonty 1 year ago
Islam..... The religion of pieces!!
Baadshahforever 1 year ago
sad to hear this........Hare Krishna is peaceful.....Hindus are always tolerant.....
AkkiSantana 1 year ago
LOL islam how typical! weak pathetic oppressive mind shackling religion. All we need is to send 10 Brahmins to Kazakhstan to debate the mullahs and you will see people converting en masse.
All it took was one Prabhupada to create a revolution. And Prabhupada really isnt that great a guru.
xXBlackxRebelXx 1 year ago
Where are all the human rights groups, thinkers,philosophers,intellectuals,freedom lovers,democrats.This is evil regime of ISLAM in khazakastan - most bigoted, most cruel, most fascist, most hatemongering.
allembrace 1 year ago
hinduism allows all religions to co exits ,, we believe god is infinite, and he can not smell or sense ,colour ,race ,background as he is a soul, so he is unable to discriminat, the oly thing he can sense is love, whatever form u love him in, he will love you back in that form. be it allah be it krishna
mayur500 1 year ago
@mayur500 "he is a soul, so he is unable to discriminat"
God isnt just a soul. God is Paramatman. And that is an attribute of God, if you consider it so.
God can discriminate. His knowledge of things are unrivalled. But what I think yo mean is that He is neutral to All, everyone has the right to approach and serve Him regardless of whatever barriers. Yes God is equal to everyone, because all are subject to Him and therefore sub-ordinate.
xXBlackxRebelXx 1 year ago
The process of spiritual realization in this age is not temple worship as in previous age, but a congregational chanting of Holy names of God. He has many names, but if one thinks no need to make any temple - then he becomes impersonalist and himself is neither good muslim nor good vaisnava (Hare-Krishna).
vedicshlokas 1 year ago
Saaad & Shame
sayanchakraborty1 2 years ago
its sad KC is facing such problems in kazhakstan. but let's not get into fights over religious supremacy here. KC is not a religion. its a spiritual movement. simply to remind us that either we should follow our faith honestly and if we can't relate to it for any reason, then join KC. it accepts everyone. though the best bet is to stick to what you do the best. whether you call him krishna, allah, jesus, yaweh whatever...lord's names are just as great as the lord!
hare krishna!
krohit99 2 years ago
Moslims who are really interested in the truth are encouraged to read the Bhagavad Gita as it is, to draw a just conclusion
mathurani 2 years ago 4
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What would you know about the truth? You certainly won't find it in a cult started by an old fart who conned doped-up hippies into panhandling for him and honing their skills into the most sophisticated scams ever perpetrated against honest Americans. The child abuse was catastrophic. The kids getting into HK today are bored little brats, wanting to recapture the "romance" of the 60's/70's. But look, the 60's are over and YOU WEREN'T THERE. Get over it and get a life.
Bombeni 2 years ago
@Bombeni
I dont care about 60's i care about Krishna
Caesar88888 1 year ago
Borat is right!!
desperatefight 2 years ago
Landrights for gay whales!!!
richo1the1kid 2 years ago
Kazakhstan is no muslim country but a Nazi style Fascist dictatorship .
LordLebu 2 years ago
Hare Krsna..people are Nice and humble...
May Krsna Protect them..
gopeshdubey 2 years ago 6
Goverment kazakhstan should close all religion school without islam and christainty in the kazakhstan
freekazakh1 2 years ago
freekazakh1:
You are an insane fascist.
Mrgyn 2 years ago 4
Kazakh's hate krishna false religion ,hindu religion's or india religion do not fit in kazakh culture ,if any kazakh go to india and smell indain man or women wil not be hindu or krishna any more becuse follower of this religion have bad smell
freekazakh1 2 years ago
Allah had given you some mind.
Please seach on the google "Prophet of Terror and the Religion of Peace--Part I"
u can urself judge about ur relegion .
"There are always three fingers points towards oneself if try to point one to the other".
BeliveInTruth 2 years ago
u r wrong you probably have worse smells than hare krishna devotees....they only eat organic fruits and vegetables and no onions, chillies and garlic and stimulants unlike a barbarian like you who eats every kind of meat and takes intoxicants....stupid ass....their sweat smells nicer than your breadth...
movieguy7589 2 years ago 3
the day will come in distant future when people on power,will understand God better.Hare Krisna
whitewolfMKD 3 years ago 11
70% of kazakhstan peoples are muslim! so our country is muslim country!but we(gov.and muslims) respect other religious,the problem is most of Christians don't respect our religiou
tanayden 3 years ago
Dear tanayden: Were ever muslim grows more then 40%.They start scewing other relegion.
Go and read the histroy of Hindus in India(Afganisthan, pakisthan, kasmir, Benagl)
from 700 AD. Same in coming future one can see.
BeliveInTruth 2 years ago
Do you mean screwing? Learn how to spell... Islam is one of the world's fastest growing religion- why? Because, we believe in the Torah, the Bible and the Quran- three holy books.
We do not worship pictures nor statues- only God almighty.
The Quran explained how a baby grows during pregnancy way before it was showed by science, how rain develops and so on.
So yes that's the reason for the conversion- not screwing.
So ignorant!
Nicolesilvie 2 years ago
All of those books are child's play compared to the bhagavad gita and srimad bhagavatam....but your lame brain would never understand such concepts because you believe in a desert cult...
movieguy7589 2 years ago 13
.ur people visit the KAABA walk around 7 times it and then TOUCH AND KISS THE BLACLK STONE.just like idolworshippers..your history shows how intoralant it is.Those ppl use idols to represtn god ARE ACTUALLY WORTH SO MUCH MORE.they belive in women rights...they never CONVERT OTHERS...they never use religon to kill others.INFACT those faiths CO-EXIST 2GTHER without any violoence.its those tplaces where te fundentals of maths and sciece arose...those ppl are true god loving ppl.islam is a cult.
URbloodMYfist 2 years ago 2
Yes u understand my statment meaning.
Olders book on hte earth are Vedas.
In Ayur Veda already there is chaper which explain ever thing related to birth.
way before Quran.
If there is some thing popular it doesn't means that its correct.
please check what muslim did in Kasmir, Afganisthan, Banglades, Pakisthan.
Convertion=increase count.
Convertion != relgious value.
If u want to follow some relegion adopts its value .
BeliveInTruth 2 years ago
lol so ur people who belive in a god without no face just like a ghost who tells his belivers to convert the non belivers if they dont make them suffer...it states taht women are mens rewards, it makes them cover up hed to toe.....in every muslim country all other religons are made to suffer to the point of extinction.......YOUR GOD does this your god killed so many in the name of faith.......
URbloodMYfist 2 years ago
FUCK ISLAM..The religion of a rapist and a thug.
Quran is a terrorist manual.
People who read Quran becomes terrorist
dd1857 2 years ago
That is not totally true. An average Muslim woman in an Islamic Nation has about 8-10 kids. Most of the converts to Islam are mostly the not so uneducated, or prison convicts. According to Islamic sources 90% of converts to Islam leave it within 2-3 years. I hope you wont jump on me like a Jihadi now.
sufifuck 2 years ago
according to bhagawad geetha a leraned person is the one who understands the supreme truth and lord sri krishna. the present caste system in india is not religiously sanctioned. it is man made.
truthjusttruth 3 years ago 4
look believe it or not i have read parts of the geeta. it is very interesting. i use ayurvedic medicine myself and it is very interesting. i am of indian descent myself. belive it or not my own mother is herself Telugu. do i agree with this event here, no i dont. but why should people start bashing muslims and not blame the govt of kazakhstan? this is a secular communist state run by ex soviet communist party members. they do the same shit to muslims too. so why blame muslims then?
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
and while i dont agree with this action, now you know what babri masjid felt like for us, masjids in gujarat demolished, or masjids demolished during riots across india in modern times. forget the past, or who did want centuries ago, shivaji was not soo innocent himself you know, but now in modern india, why does so much prejudice exists? this is not gandhiji's india, a man i greatly admire. why cant people accept, and embrace the diverse nature of india, from its religions, languages, etc.?
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adi22pal12 2 years ago
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babri masjid stood at one of the most sacred place of Hindus i.e. birth place of Lord Ram. It was constructed by destroying Hindi Temple and one could see beheaded Hindu gods and goddesses in its walls.
Most importantly it was a non-functional masjid kept in locks for for 60years. Muslims never pray there.
Now imagine a temple of church in mecca. Will you let that stand a second. Answer with your *non-prejudiced* mind or soul or whatever.
adi22pal12 2 years ago
Millions of temples destroyed and ravaged, more 80 million Hindus killed, millions of Hindu women sold off as sex slaves, all Hindus finished off in Pakistan and Bangladesh. 7.5% in 1947 and now 20% of India's population and still Muslims complain. Does someone see he irony here!
sufifuck 2 years ago 3
You are ignorant as well as bigoted and are trying to build sand castles. I dont blame you, after all you are a true Muslim
sufifuck 2 years ago
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I'm fro Israel and I'm working in Kazakhstan. I've seen these krishna people, they are so many and always asking money, even my friend got beaten by krishnas. I;m very glad that they are doing such a good things like destroying KRISHNAs. There must be only one jewish religion!
ademilik 3 years ago
fuck abraham slave jew
chetansingh2006 3 years ago
@admemilik,
you are in the mode of ignorance.
ngothyeaun 3 years ago
dear xgotfiveonitx,
look at the condition of pakistani hindus. in india in every field muslims made their presence. in politics, sports, movies, academics everywhere tehy are there.
truthjusttruth 3 years ago
i will agree with you on one thing. that the minorities of south asia are treated badly. you can claim what you want about these token muslims, yet look at the sachar commission report. half of all indians living in poverty are muslim. half of all muslims live in poverty in india. half of all muslims in india are self employed because of job discrimination. muslims are harrassed by the police, which doesnt happen to hindus in pak, hindus in pak dont have anti terror laws agains them, etc.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
"hindus in pak dont have anti terror laws agains them" because hindus dont run around bombing ppl, its only the muslims and mohamedans that run around trying to kill everyone "waging war on the non-believers".
Thx for proving my point. & hey dont try to sob shoulder boo-hoo job about the poor, it is a standard text book practice by those who wish to amass political power and support quickly in a short time by appealing to the masses of poor ppl. communists did it, and that muslims do it just
bhibatsu 3 years ago
goes to reveal their true colors and true ambition which is global illuminati and domination.
btw, u bin messin wit dat endo weed too much mr. muslim who cant drink alkihole but smokin eni-thang he kin git 'is 'ands on is kool by the koran-dude, why you're so crunked up on buddha that you cant see straight mate.
so go on recruiting sudras and tellin 'em deir better than evi8ody and how they're "entitled" to this and that, just sign up as a muslim and bla bla bla bla.
fucking mlecha.
bhibatsu 3 years ago
daer all
(contd) at the end of kaliyug also my lord will come and put an end to all these activities. remember lord srikrishna himself said taht "whenever and whereever irreligion predominates religion and holy people are tortured, for the benifit of my devotees and for punishing the evil i descend myself." hare krishna
truthjusttruth 3 years ago
Hari krishna they must inform indian community to help we will all join and assist
chetansingh2006 3 years ago
dear all,
i am very sad to hear this. but to all people who felt sad seeing this i would like to say the following things.
whenever adharma rules dharma these kind of things happen. before the advent of lord narasimha the demon king hiranyakasipa had done the same. the demon king removed all the deities of god and replaced them with his idols.the devotees were tortured but finally the supreme lord krishna came and ended all that. at the end of kaliyug also my lord will surely come (contd)
truthjusttruth 3 years ago
Such comments are based on bodily concept of life. Muslim/Christian/Indian/Russian - these are all designations based on bodily concept.
The Kazakh problem arose also due to this reason.
But is there only one language available? Or is the Sun shines just for particular people?
God is one and He has no nationality. If a religion leads to God then this is true religion.
Let's better find something common then to look for faults and differences. Otherwise there would be no dialog.
PressService 3 years ago
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Hare krishnas are parasites. They never invented anything, they never built anything, they never created anything useful and good. Give up on that fake religion and seek the one true God. He revealed Himself to us in the person/deity of Jesus Christ. Jesus lives, and in Him is life. Read the gospel of John, visit the American Tract Society web site, repent of your sins and pray to receive Christ and be born again, fellowship with a local body of saints (believers in Christ).
fredphellipssdriver 3 years ago
it's amazing how dharmic religions can be so tolerant of other religions, yet so much contempt and disgust is seen on the part of the abrahamic religions.
redhotcp16 3 years ago
blah blah blah. Anyone that is truly in touch with their faith in God is not intolerant. Look at what Hindu's and even some Buddhists have done in their past and try to not judge...as I am sure your Dharmic religion would tell you.
HelplessAutomation 3 years ago
two wrongs don't make it right so I think you should take your own advice if you don't want to speak for these people whose freedom is being taken away
nikhilyt 3 years ago
I am not speaking to the Hare Krsna's; I am talking about your foolish and ill informed opinion that Dharmic religions have never done anything like this. But by all means, continue to delude yourself.
HelplessAutomation 3 years ago
That is not the point. Go find a news video of that happening and post your baseless comments there.
nikhilyt 3 years ago
that's a joke, look at how people of the abrahamic religons are treated by people of this 'dharma' religion, from church bombings, mosque demolitions, to discrimination against minorities. spare me your nonsense.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
dear xgotfiveonitx,
from your point of view look at malaysia. do minorities have equal rights in malaysia as taht of majority muslims? yoga is banned in malaysia for muslims. why is it so? nowhere in the world do minorities get the treatment like in india. coming to the point of gujarat etc, i feel sad for wht had happened but i am just reminding u the cause for taht. every life have equal value whether hindus, muslims or christians.
truthjusttruth 3 years ago 2
yoga is not banned in malaysia, and i will agree with on one point. that minorities across south asia need to be treated better.
and so do the lower caste hindus as well, the dalits who are treated like garbage by their own fellow hindus. if brahmans dont want them, then let them convert to other faiths who will show them the true meaning of equality.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
dear xgotfiveonitx,
the caste system in india is a true menace. it is bcoz of teh ignorance of the people (ignorance in vedic knowledeg). dharma nad love for god is not related to how others treat us. it is an intimate relation btw us and god, the unalloyed love. like in every culture u see there are kings, soldiers, merchants and working class and tahts the same in india as well.
truthjusttruth 3 years ago
there is nothing wrong with being a spiritual person and you seem like a reasonable man. so i would like to know do you practice tradiitonal hinduism, or are you a follower of hindutva? because it just seems to me that people who are fanatics hide behind religion to justify thier own prejudices. not to mention imposing hindi on all of india, which is an insult to the dravidian speaking people of south india. i speak hindi too, but their languages should be respected.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
Killing is the order of the day in Islam. Don't try to lecture me dude, I was a Sunni Muslim from Pakistan till Krishna blessed me with his divine grace. May he show you the light too and free you from the bonds of the evil you follow now.
sufifuck 2 years ago
I practise Hare Krishna,I follow iskcon, you cannot talk like that of islam,it is false, it is Krishna's mercy that he revealed himself in different time and circumstances,like buddha,and sent his devotee to reveal koran,or bibel, or toran, the scriptures is for how far you have come in the spiritual path,you cannot say like this about other religions.
You can attain god in any religion if they are properly followed you can even fall when practising KC,KC is not bullet proof it depends on you
jdmx3 2 years ago
@sufifuck you're replying to a lot of comments here... you don't seem to practice your religion at all. You don't seem humble or tolerant. You're full of hatred and I suggest you go to whichever Temple you usually go to and get cleansed and meditate.
Nicolesilvie 1 year ago
lol, first start treating your own muslim brothers like the qadyanis, shias and others with respect. Low caste Hindus have every right in India today and are even better provided than Upper caste Hindus. a lecture on tolerance by a Muslim. This has got to be the biggest joke of the century.
sufifuck 2 years ago 2
@sufifuck Add Ahmadiyyas and Sufis to the list! Peaceful Muslims are being targetted by the bigoted mainstream muslims! where are the moderates? they are fast asleep! when will they be vocal? ONLY when we condemn Islam!
Is Allah really God? Are Muslims followers of God? Funny because Hare Krishnas follow the concept of Wahid and Tawhid more than muslims themselves!
xXBlackxRebelXx 1 year ago
really, have you ever been to Malaysia. The Christians cannot even use the word Allah for God. So much for equality.
sufifuck 2 years ago 3
xgotfiveonitx, please spare me your nonsense. you are simply the product of islamic rule in india. we can only speculate on how your forefathers were converted, but all have a pretty good idea (except for you). so please spare me your comments on how people of dharmic religions treat others; they treat others far better than they are treated from the rest
redhotcp16 2 years ago
Thanks you for reporting this!
LeoHareMusic 3 years ago
Muslim nations are real fuckin' assholes... They want "Equal Rights" in non-Muslim democracies but don't want to give other minorities Equal Rights...
EsotericDesi 3 years ago
what does muslim have to do with this? khazakstan is a communicst country. they do the same shit to muslims too. besides you guys tore down babri masjid, now you know what it feels like! dont talk about minority equal rights, when hindus in india cant even display it themselves. from the gujarat riots, bombay riots, to fanatics like the bjp, rss and shiv sena. i know i have seen first hand with my own eyes in bombay.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
India have had more Muslim leaders since 1947 than your cunt Muslim nations ever will have non-Muslims... India's most recently retired President was not just the man who built India's rocket and modern weapons program but also became its President... and not just now, India had them for decades since... They earned it with their education along with Sikhs and Hindus... picked by the World's Largest Democracy based on their merits, not based on their religion...
EsotericDesi 3 years ago
wow your bigotry shines through brahman boy. im indian myself moron. no prime minister has been muslim in india. half of all indians living in poverty are muslims. half of all muslims live in poverty. police harrassment and even accusing muslims of bombing thier own mosques. plus njot to mention the bjp, i have seen thier handiwork first hand and the shive sena and the rrs. you know jinnah was right after all, and guys like you prove it, so fuck off.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago 2
You are such a bigot, name calling is a sign of bigotry. Muslims are experts in lying and you are a living example of that. This is why the whole world is calling you a terrorist.
sufifuck 2 years ago 6
Plus, Babri Masjid was a Hindu Temple... If you have not yet read how much destruction Islam caused not just in its own shitty, sandy, barren homeland of Arabia but also in civilized nations like India, then I'd suggest you read the world's history again...
EsotericDesi 3 years ago
ya its soo shitty thats why all the hindus run there for jobs. and spare me your hindu fanatic propoganda that is discredited by every credible indian historian and archeologist out there brahman boy. funny theres a case in u.p. of a dispute over a mandir between two priests. guess what the evidence is? a title written in farsi and sined by arungazeb himself. whats a matter bjp doesnt teach you that?
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
hello xgotfiveonitx,
i am sorry for your prejudices. i accept taht wht u have mentioned are sadly true but u mentioned only one side of teh story. hindus in india are highly tolerant to other religions. u can see that by the incraesing number of mosques etc in the country. also gujarat riots are a result of burning of karsevaka women and children in a train. did u forget the amarnath land isuue where hindus in their own country were denied land for basic pilgrimage facilities bcoz of fanatics
truthjusttruth 3 years ago
your accusing me of prejudice while you support fanatics like the bjp, rss and shiv sena? i can say the same thing, look at indonesia, how many hindus live there? look at malaysia as well. you brought up the kashmir land issue, there is also two sides to that, and as for gujarat, the rss burned that train from the inside, and on top of that, it was over an argument with bandiwalas who just happen to be muslims, so all the muslims have to pay? how many mosques have been demolished in india?
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
no one ever hears of any other church members suicide-bombing and murdering innocent civilians, but how many times have people heard that muslims bombed this, muslims shot that, look at the recent Mumbai drama. Sooner or later the world will wake up that Islam is not the peaceful religion they would have us believe, no, it is nothing more than a doctrine to wage guilt-free war and terror on the kufri, the non-believers. Such type of Islam and propogaters, should be put down with extreme prejudic
bhibatsu 3 years ago
what a joke, the leader of the tamil tigers, who have killed more people from suicide bombings, including former indian pm rajiv gandh in 91', than all the mid east groups combined is himself guess what? a christian! as for BOMBAY, we dont know who did that, all we know is what the govt propoganda is, and alot of is now pointing to the bombay mafia underworld so spare me your bigotry jackass.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
How many mosques have been destroyed. Please tell us. I would love to share your information. I would love to share with you the millions of temples that have been destroyed in pakistan and Bangladesh in the recent times. I am not even talking history here.
sufifuck 2 years ago 5
Did you know that the Hare Krishna were first responders in Katrina. Fed thousands of people who all said it was the best food ever, even tho it was vegetaraian. They know how to feed people!They do it beautifully as well.
carcultured 3 years ago 2
half of these ppl are russian they need to go back russia or go to india so they get what they want
ikran2007 3 years ago
THANK YOU
f417h 3 years ago
What a pathetic policy. Krishnas might be kind of weird for most people, but they are peaceful and they bother no one. So what is the point of picking on them or persecuting them.
Kazakhstan might have gotten a bad rap from the Borat movie. But if they continue down the road of religious persecution then that reputation will be very fitting.
FlatulenceFox 3 years ago 3
This issue indeed has deeper roots. Hare Krishnas were just the first group to experience such a treat from the state. Last year 12 similar cases filed by the government against different religious minorities with the same scenario.
Situation may worsen after adopting new religion legistlation being reviewed by the parliament upper chamber these days.
Do you really beleive Kazakhstan can teach the world of what tolerance is?
It is doubtful Kazakhstan deserves OSCE chairmanship after all that.
PressService 3 years ago
Meh. The Krsnas are the real deal. They don't need land, money, institutions etc...
If you tore down any Christian or Muslim Church things would go sour VERY QUICKLY but the Krsnas are a different matter. Governments KNOW that they can push Krsnas around because of their principals.
The greatest Krsna conscious leader Srila Prabhupada was POISONED to death by government spies who infiltrated his religious organization. To this day the society that Prabhupada founded is under covert control.
NewWorldOver 3 years ago
I don't believe the poison story, but the rest of what you say makes sense.
DarylGrr 3 years ago 3
VERY well put! This issue has deeper roots & the specifics are missing.
afrircans1970 3 years ago
i would dive the Bulldozer
amsoho75gr 3 years ago
I don't think they'll let you drive a bulldozer unless you learn how to spell, Numbnuts (aka amsoho75gr)
DarylGrr 3 years ago
funny!
tinramm 3 years ago
Why isn't Al Jazeera telling us why were their land purchase invalid? Because they assume that it is too boring to use airtime? Actually, that is the only relevant piece of information in understanding why they are being kicked out, and all anti-government speculations seem to be the entertainment Al Jazeera offers for the masses, so that they would believe in the just capitalist society. In reality, the governments are not interested in changing what is happening. Media brainwash bullshit.
teemuruskeepaa 3 years ago 2
I mean Al Jazeera serves the government by making people believe that in the society, bad things are critized openly. Instead, Al Jazeera twists the events to seem that they have been given publicity and the same time takes attention away from the fact that the media is not going to talk about the reasons why the government is attacking these religious people.
teemuruskeepaa 3 years ago 2
What would really double me, would be when ordinary post-modern people, who believe in 'freedom of speech' tell me that it is only my preference to think that the reason of invalidity of the land contract is relevant in this case. However, it is logically the only relevant case. How do you like them apples?
teemuruskeepaa 3 years ago 2