East Belfast Protestant Boys(UVF) stop to play The Sash outside Catholic bars Ballykeel 2009

[Moffitt1690]

its derrys walls not the sash knumb nuts

[allangee1873]

the sash ? that aint the sash pal hahaha

[londonderryable]

Must be good even the locals are out watching. Scumbag FUCK OF DOWN SOUTH

[armymanjames1]

@londonderryable How about you fuck off to england your not wanted you fucking smelly tramp. "Its fuck off not fuck of you spastic", Your a prime example of a retard at least you started with a capital letter. "Your making progress good monkey good monkey".

[LostRussianHobo]

Marching in a British Country....What's wrong with that?

[wjf0ne]

The first few bars on the clip are the Sash then they go into Derry's Walls, or the title when it was written, God Bless the Prince of Wales. I don't see anyone from the bar being too agitated about the band and if I see right some standing around the door appear to have brought their drinks outside, I do hope the bar has a licence to sell alcohol for consumption off the premises, wouldn't want any law breaking now would we. I also note you were left in peace to take the video, how unusual, umm

[Thornbird2455]

Keep Ulster Pope free

[markbig123]

who gives a fuck? what these bands are doing is no worse than you having "catholic bars"

[Deco208]

It's no the sash! It's Derry's Walls

[UDARFC]

LOUD AND PROUD !!!

[macmaghnusa]

@Taiginator

So Tone and the United Irishmen were misguided fools flying in the face of the Orange Order then? Another serious question. I agree 100% that the influence of the RC Church in the institutiions of the Irish Republic is intolerable. It's intolerable anywhere, especially here in Spain, a supposedly secular state.

[kos]

@macmaghnusa The United Irishmen were misguided for trying to export the French Revolution to Ireland - and, as you are in Spain, you should understand exactly why that is so.

Taking it further, can you look at the culture of the Irish Republic - Catholic, Gaelic, pastoral, insular, parochial and bigoted - and wonder why Northern Irish Protestants would fear being subsumed in it? Even most modern Irish people dislike these aspects of post-1922 Ireland - and plenty left Ireland to escape them.

[arseymcpherson]

@kos Have you been to the Irish Republic recently? I doubt it. You are pretty much describing the loyalist community though. It's called projection.

[kos]

@arseymcpherson Actually, it's called being very well-informed and well read about modern history. I stand in awe of you for the simple fact that you believe that "Catholic, Gaelic, pastoral" are adjectives which apply to the Unionist community in Northern Ireland.

I also observe you have an interesting way of aiming for Irish unification: spouting abuse at a quarter of the island's population in the belief that insults will make them want to join the Republic.

[arseymcpherson]

@kos As you well know, I am not applying "Catholic, Gaelic, pastoral" to the Unionist community. But I am applying insular, parochial and bigoted to you and your specific community. Nor am I aiming for Irish Unification. Nor am in insulting a quarter of the population, I am saying that YOU and people like you are projecting your fear and bigotry onto others.

[kos]

@arseymcpherson I also observe that you ignored the fact that mass immigration from the Republic has been the defining demographic characteristic of Ireland since 1922 - and you ignore (because you are ignorant of it) the horrendous oppression of the De Valera years.

I suppose you also know nothing about the Republic's long association with Catholic Fascist and Falangist regimes on the Continent before, after and during the Second World War.

Read a book sometime, my boy.

[arseymcpherson]

@kos I am not ignorant of the De Valera years. Nor am I ignorant of Ireland's dubious alliances and Catholic Tyranny that is only recently being deconstructed and shamed. This is why I asked 'have you been to the Republic of Ireland recently?' It seems that it is you who are ignorant of the present and strive to live in a world that supports your fear and hatred of your perceived enemy. I am not a Catholic.

[arseymcpherson]

@kos Should I never holiday in Spain because of the Franco regime? Should we leave the European Union because of Germany's past? Your reasoning is tainted by hatred and fear.

[kos]

@arseymcpherson I really don't know what you are talking about or where holidays come into the equation.

My objection is to bigotry, discrimination, sectarianism and hatred. Your view is that bigotry, discrimination, sectarianism and hatred are good so long as your religion is the one doing it.

Yes, I hate intolerance and, yes, I fear bigotry. How you choose to construe my commitment to equal rights for all people is really up to you and says more about you than about me.

[arseymcpherson]

@kos Oh dear. It appears that I have over stretched you with the use of comparisons. No that is not my view. My view is that any killings or sectarianism are wrong. You can't solve that problem by dragged up the past like you have been doing this entire time. Again, I am not a Catholic, you failed to read that part twice already. Modern Ireland is not the same place that you describe. You did not provide evidence for ethnic cleansing. You are just about the tit-for-tat.

[arseymcpherson]

@kos 2) You did not read or understand any of my other posts. I can only conclude from this that you are either wilfully ignoring what I have to say or you do not know how to use youtube. Good day sir. Peace be upon you. I'm sorry for the past that has caused you to be this way. Maybe if you take a trip across the border some day or speak to some middle class catholics you might open your mind to change.

[kos]

@arseymcpherson Last but not least, in 1922 10% of the Irish Free State's population was Protestant.

Today the figure is less than 3%.

But I suppose ethnic cleansing is fine when it's your religion doing it.

[arseymcpherson]

@kos Give evidence that this 'ethnic cleansing' is ongoing. Is it not true that the current level of immigration is to do with the disastrous economy. Again, I am not a Catholic or a Republican.

[arseymcpherson]

@arseymcpherson 'emigration' rather.

[arseymcpherson]

@kos Also, since when was a religion an ethnicity?

[macmaghnusa]

This is a serious question requiring a serious answer. One poster on here distinguishes between Catholic and Republican. Do some Catholics in Ulster vote DUP/UUP then? Were Wolf Tone and his followers not Protestant Irish nationalists committed to overhtowing British rule on the island of Ireland? Are all Protestants Unionists today? People, especially people who are neither irish or british, need to know the facts. Muchas gracias amigos.

[ashfallvideo]

That's not the sash...

[lfctorres0]

Awwwwh EVERYBODY SAY AWWWWWWWWH

Dont want to be offended dont stand outside the bar and drink drink inside

[bigjamesycfb]

great videos provided by ballymenaSF thank you for supporting our great loyal bands and helping to advertise our great traditions . . . .

[MrSilverFlute]

@davyg1978 If you turn your speakers up and listen to the first part of the tune I think you'll find it is the sash, and @theslutbus has said it isn't an Orange Order parade - stating that it wasn't organised by them. Read a post and know the facts before you reply to someone elses LOL

[davyg1978]

@theslutbus No Its not the sash LOL the tune is derry's walls... also this is not an orange order parade its a band competition...u sure ur a prod? lol

[lolsean]

I dont care what anybody says... marching band music is shite regardless of religion

[tdw1989eb]

i love this video hahahaha what a good wee taig to post it No Surrender

[RyanandJackpro1]

hahaha ledgend :D

[BanjoMan1916]

@comberman100 i may be mistaken lad but the news showed pictures from belfast with the shamrock flag and no tri colours but oviously there were going to be some. an irish flag on an irish event?? you were askin for explantions!? the union jack is all over yer fuckin ornge parades. no cross community event there for christ sake. they want to be free you thick bastard

[inkpotholder]

Are there any Catholic groups that don't allow Protestants? Any groups within the church? Does the Catholic Church itself allow Protstants (who aren't going to change)? Do Catholics object to the protestant organisation of the Girls Brigade parading? Do Catholics believe that if an organisation is Protestant that they must also hate Catholics?, even if they are 5? Are they going to stop 5 year olds parading because they are part of a Protestant organisation? Genuine question

[utjmab1690marc]

good to see that the bands are too good for you to resist :)

[robbiedh8]

they were playin derrys walls there actually. u have little to be at, u brain dead cunt

[FourstepVolunteer]

Hope you enjoyed the parade, you taig cunt?

Happy New Year!

[BigjockGnu]

ver nice of them to stop and entertain the customers in the pub and let them enjoy the Ulster folk heritage.

[berlin194]

I have NEVER in my life seen such a demonstration of Gay Rights. I have been told that these bandsmen are supposed to hint at some shady paramilitary thing. They in fact look like little gay boys playing soldiers. I bet their arses were sore that night. Just take a step back and look at yourselves.

[sabbathslaves]

I applaud the patrons inside the pub for remaining dignified throughout this onslaught. The state is responsible for allowing this type of religious intolerance. As Christians this provocation should be ended, or does the state find a purpose in dividing the people.

[jamesy15]

@sabbathslaves wise up fool and shag a priest, people who pay taxes should be free to walk anywhere they want, we in scotland walk anywhere we want, and always will,,,,keep walking and playing ulster people

[BanjoMan1916]

@jamesy15 What if Catholics march down shankhill road playin rebel songs? do you think the unionists would be happy? course they fuckin wouldnt. Loyalist marching for loyalist areas

[genetilewarts]

They dont march in dublin you muppet last time they got chased out

[Jambert16]

This song is actually called No Surrender...

[B2KIVoDkAv2]

@Jambert16 we'll fight actually

[B2KIVoDkAv2]

@Jambert16 derry's walls actually

[bigbryno1]

once again a blatant abuse of guidelines laid down by the parades commission. and once again the P.S.N.I or as they ARE known Pure Scum of Northern Ireland , do nothing apart from photograph and take names from the innocent few nationalist outside their local..

[Eire32FukDaBrits]

I wish these lads would come to Dublin, see how smart yiz are then....TAL

[bigphilrules]

@Eire32FukDaBrits here dumb fuck we were in Dublin but use cunts really must hate Dublin to fuck up your own city. That was a lethal day i must say. We stil got to parade a bit but not as much as we wanted but use fucked up Dublin which i must say made are day :)

[BanjoMan1916]

@bigphilrules nah not really lad. look up that riot and do your research before you carry on about it. The irish people didnt and dont want you

[bigphilrules]

@BanjoMan1916 here lad i was there i would know use burned your own city made us laugh yea we got on the bus but we didnt get home straight away we went to a different part of dublin which we were ment to go to and paraded up and down that street

[BanjoMan1916]

@bigphilrules You might aswell be dressed as nazis prading down london. And are you a northernr seriously telling me about fucking up my own city??? have you even heard of the troubles??? there riots week in week out for christ sake

[Lewis1711]

Orangeism is actually a very ancient form of trolling.You see, before the internet, you couldn't just make snide comments and post jpegs, you actually had to go out and march to piss other people off.

[inkpotholder]

Have there ever been any objections to St Paddy Day parades which are seen as mainly Catholic? Genuine question.

[KI55myAR5E1]

@inkpotholder as a loyalist in a loyalist flute band i can answer....no

[begorrahsreturn]

Not in New York, Boston, Dublin or Downpatrick. As far as I know there aren't any scheduled to go through Portavogie, Larne or any other backward troll town,

[yorksbill]

@begorrahsreturn are you really that backward there is a parade in dublin there are also regularly parades in dpatrick,portavogie and larne buta suppose 2 out of six aint bad

[BanjoMan1916]

@inkpotholder Well there is a bit of a diference. Patricks day is just a celebration of irishness. Orange day is a celebration of victory over catholics (basically taunting them?). there wasnt any tri colours in Belfast on paddys day. look it up they just had a flag with a decorated green shamrock.

[CraigG1960]

SF do not believe in free speech and try to ban free marches.

[willylinfield2009]

Good upload :)

[TuPaCThADoN06]

No Surrender, God save the Queen if yous dont like it then fuck away aff back down south of the Border

[OhYesHeKnew]

@UnitedLoyalistFront its right at the start of the video

[andybus1999]

Great video, thanks for posting

[MillsyGFB]

catholic bars??? did the catholic civil rights marchers like NICRA not want catholic and protestants to be treated equal,,,then why the hell are you sayin catholic bars, if we all are treated equal just like you basterds wanted so us protestants have as much right to go into these bars,,,you are a joke!! does SF in your name stand for Sinn Fein? if so then i politician should be aware of this!! and to finish on a positive,,thanks for the videos mate,,there smashing!!

[eamon4800]

fuckin lucky i wasnt there i would of bricked the basterds if they did that in my catholic street fuckin proddy basterds i dont have problems with protestants just fuckin protestants that do thgis but when we do it its wrong i love to beat the fuck out of those cunts

[OhYesHeKnew]

@eamon4800 no you wouldnt keyboard warrior fuck off.

[boynebattler]

@eamon4800 Oh yeah, im sure the 50 strong East Belfast Protestant Boys are glad aswell, gettin taken out by you and your brick, stupid thick, bigoted bastard, and yes its bastard not basterd, lol

[BanjoMan1916]

@eamon4800 Thousands of catholics chanting rebel songs and IRA down your street? would you be pissed off? there'd be fucking anarchy

[todubhain461]

Tiocfaidh ár lá!

[HartelozeKlootzak]

That isn't the issue right now is it? The issue is, this is fucking provocation! Got nothing to do with killings this video, it has to do with deliberatly 'marching' through catholic neighbourhoods and playing in front of catholic bars. You fuckface, like the UFF, UDA, UVF didn't murder people anyway? Loyalist bastard.

[yingyangsang1]

Lol, big loyalist boy in is uniform which his mammy made yea?

We don't have that many bands because there is nothiong great about walking down a street........... We have acctual culture like GAA.

[INSANESUICIDE]

now that's ignorant hahaha

[yingyangsang1]

You would be the very ones moaning and calling us secterain if we came out to you lot.

[PrideofNi]

I think you responded that to the wrong person mate.

Btw just so you know St Patricks day has more to do with protestant than catholic, they have just hijacked it.

[oceallaigh2003]

Almost half the tax payers in the north are Catholic who detest the annual "Hatefest"which is so anti-Catholic ,also a lot of moderate Protestants want nothing to do with the Order,The Orange membership has dwindled to less than 40,000 from an average 100,000 in recent years ,the marches cost milti-millions annually to police,so do the math.

[PrideofNi]

I think you'll find that not all the 3000 parade you are talking about are conducted by the orange order. Many bands have annual parades and huge numbers of people go to watch and listen to them. I know a few catholics that have enjoy a parade that was in their town. Also some bands do donate to charities etc. Sorry i have yet to meet a protestant that do not like to see a parade or watch the orange order march. Btw calling it a "hatefest" is totally incorrect. Learn more about our culture.

[oceallaigh2003]

I have no problem with your culture as ,long as you don't impose it on everyone else and stick to areas where it isn't deemed contentious and disruptive as many are.The policing costs would be greatly diminished and everyone could live with that.

[PrideofNi]

But if you think about the parades commission does stop some parades and it DOES impose quite alot of conditions. So its fair all round.

[oceallaigh2003]

The parade that went through Ardoyne and it's aftermath cost the taxpayer 400,000 pound to police ,and that's just one parade of thousands,in the current seriously bad economic climate think how many young people from the Shankill could be learning a trade from this money instead of sitting home week after week playing the flute.The cost of your "culture" is unsustainable for a place the size of the 6 counties,it's not Luxembourg you live in.

[PrideofNi]

lol.

But that had nothing to do with the conduct of the orangeorder nor the bandsmen. That had to do with the parade passing a catholic area, not entering it, but simple coming close to it. Why should our culture be disregarded simple because there are those who are secterian and cant stand other peoples believes and culture.

[oceallaigh2003]

the Order's insistence on marching past Catholic areas shows a lack of social responsibility in a civilised society.The Order's lack of empathy or understanding is hardly in line with the Christian teachings it professes to uphold and by it's actions it manifests hostility and division among a community that has suffered enough.The Order needs a new vision for the future if it is to survive,one that is more positive and proactive that benefits all the citizens of the north of Ireland.

[PrideofNi]

hu..huh. You would know alot on the subject living in canada and everything.

[oceallaigh2003]

I lived in the Bogside,Derry,also the Antrim Road,Lisburn Road,Brookvale Ave Belfast for many years and I was one of the few Catholics who ever lived in the Village area near Windsor Park at the height of the troubles.I know the people of Belfast,they are decent hardworking people on both sides ,it's a shame to see this division being carried on for so long.

[oceallaigh2003]

Maybe if you lived in Canada for a while you would soon realise how a normal civilised society functions and how really dysfunctional and depressing the 6 counties has become.The first 50 years of Unionist bad government set the stage for a very polarised society that inevitably became so ungovernable that the Brits had to step in.

[PrideofNi]

Perhaps but have you ever thought that because you have been away from the situation you have forgot the real people involved, the history and the way the community comes together when there is parades on? Maybe its mostly the protestant community but still.

Sorry unionist bad government. If i remember they werent in it alone and the situation wasnt what you would call controllable either.

[rs9ci]

The people OUTSIDE the bar seemed to enjoy the band, SinnFein (IRA)

[eoghan1916]

THE COPS?? they'er out side it?

[oceallaigh2003]

If you didn't have the massive police protection you wouldn't have the balls to march through Nationalist /Republican areas.I don't see Catholics wanting to march through Protestant areas ,they obviously are more socially conscious unlike the underclass of the Unionist/Protestant population who revel in this kind of lowlife triumphalism more akin to Boers and Nazis.

[oceallaigh2003]

Does anyone knows what the astronomical cost is to tax payers annually for the 3000 marches the Orange Order conducts,it has to be multi millions that obviously could be better spent.Just imagine if the Catholic community decided to have 3000 marches to every year ,there would be no money left in the budget for regular policing,maybe they should use that as a tactic to stop these very provocative Orange marches.

[polmac7]

this comment here is why nationalists oppose coat trailing parades

[eoghan1916]

well in the south orangemen have expect the move into an irish republic u guys just need a we while to expect it now that livin in 32 county irish republic. u'll settle ur we head and we'll even find a nice we field for u and ur little friends to march in

[slickin1984]

thanks for sharing a clips of one of ulsters number one marching bands... im suprised sf/ira arent complainin that it sound be call LONDONDERRYS WALLS

[polmac7]

they started with the sah and rolled into derrys walls.

they wernt allowed to stop as per the PC determination which they did so on purpose. why else would they do it unless to annoy people?