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  • very nice

  • Dusan- I think you did great job with your Aikido demonstration here. You disarmed your assailant without hurting or killing him. And out on the street no matter where you are your expected to survive if attacked with any kind of weapon be it a knife or anything else that's presented. So all I can sir, is keep up the good work, and keep on inspiring kids to take up this art called Aikido that O'Sensei started years ago. Because no matter what others say, I think your doing a great job.

  • i am dusan mitrovic...xD

    

  • i don't see at as going out of its way to be brutal. all vracarevic did was take aikido techniques and tweak them a little to make them more useful for street fight situations like knife attacks and attacks with other weapons. the use of force and aggression is inevitable if one expects to get a knife out of someone's hand. If you use aikido techniques on someone who doesn't see the throws coming, and doesn't know how to properly break the fall then they could very possibly get seriously injured

  • sorry am i reading the guy doing this is a 10th dan who from japan gave him this please

  • @mole114 no, he's a 1st dan. the founder of the system is a 10th dan

  • 0:48 segundos, el cuchillo te está cortando la arteria inguinal, en circunstancias reales estarías muerto. 4º kyu aikikai

  • Inace, momcima sve najbolje, samo bolje da zasad batale snimanje.

    Kad se vezba za slikanje, radi trema, pa se mnogo vise cupka, streca i okleva.

    Ima fore za slikanje ;-)

  • his movement are not good he cannot control the attacker simply

  • Cool! xD

  • 10th dan ? there is no 10th dan in aikido .... no one even takes the 8th

  • It's not Aikido, It's Bullshit ... Aikido Iwama Ryu Is the best ... The real aikido of O'Sensei ... 10TH Dan??? Absurd

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  • YEAA!!!! AIKIDO !!!! The best !!!

  • @sattanhellsing I beg to differ though everyone's entitled to their opinion!!!!!

  • DULE SI PROOOO !!!!! des dule AIKIDO RULES !!!!!

  • That dude needs to work on his ballance. He seems to loose it regularly...

  • Nice job!!

  • whats thee song called ?? reply asap please anyone :) x

  • @iheartmoosik

    Safri Duo - Played A Live

  • nothing special!!! i sow some videos on youtube, much beater then this.

  • its so fuuny rhey did kotegaeshi sankyo and all the same and they call it real aikido ...its the same one but they do more atemi ,wow big deal

  • Huh... Russian aikido or something. What happened to hyoujun??? Kihon???

  • hey man you rae so buts som awesonen i just star to doaikido you one of the best i live at  tn usa

  • TOtal ASSSSS HOLES

  • Детский сад! ))))

  • 0:47 What the heck! The blade of the knife was AGAINST HIS LEG!!

  • Yeah it was. They even highlighted it with slo-mo!

  • It's still better than against his face.

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  • ...some elements of aikido are quite effective if used in combination with other martial arts... but this video is very misleading... the techniques used here for knife defense are total useless... nobody would attack like this in a real knife confrontation... come on... get real... knife fighting in reality is not something as seen in the movies (or in this video)... if you tried to use this moves even on a complete moron you would get stabbed horribly...

  • haahahahahhaha what an idiot

  • bla bla bla fuck off. MMA is the only way ..while you play games i bash skulls...put up or shut up...scientifically proven hey well the only thing i know is my shin, you head thats bad news for you..fact ....oh and how do i know.. i am ex STF From South Africa .. 1 more thing it may be a art but the fact is on the street you gonna lose boy bad trust me ...put it all together k-box, judo aikido , jujists then you get MMA ..dont mean to piss anyone off but hay thats the way it goes sorry

  • "bla bla bla fuck off." and "dont mean to piss anyone off " doesn't go well in the same post. guess your noggin have gotten too many blows. ex STF from south america or not, a "U" would go well with that title :p haha!

  • Everybody who is well trained in MA, no matter the style, has a better chance of survival. As long as you're able to control your nerves in a real fight that is. You can't just fake the stress conditions and adrenaline of a real fight, but what you can do is prepare for these conditions as good as it get's.

  • Everybody who is well trained in MA, no matter the style, has a better chance of survival. As long as you're able to control your nerves in that is. You can't train the stress conditions in a real fight, but what you can do is prepare for them as good as it get's.

  • Slauterhaus, if you're smart, you should be running in the opposite direction of these 2 knives. You might come out alive. Or do you maybe prefer "I went down karate'ing" on your gravestone?

  • Real sick!

  • Slaterhouse...retarde...pisi na srpskom...

  • I wanna learn the unreal kind too...lol..nice stuff.

  • thts why when u wnt to kill someone with knife..dont hesitate,,just stab or slice and dont grab when u come from behind..and done..

  • how if the attacker using two knife??if i use 2 knife i sure i can cut that man feet if he use that kind of technique on me..

  • If someone is mad enough at you to bust out 2 knives to attack you, you have more problems than aikido can solve.

  • Rubbish!! The techniques are done so damn fast your right arm would be broken before you could even think of striking with your left. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. One things for sure - you've never had a wrist lock put on you by a well trained aikidoka. If you had you'd drop the knife in you left hand and bang it on the floor screaming!!!

  • 1. Yes I have, I trained aikido for 3 years.

    2. You are an idiot.

    3. See #2

  • 1. Then you only achieved a very low level of knowledge and compitency at a very technical martial art and cannot be considered an authority on it at all. If you had got anywhere near black belt you would have done more advanced weapons attacks that include such attacks.

    2. Ad hominems cannot win a debate I'm afraid to tell you even though they may make you feel better.

    3. Pointless.

  • 1. The fact that you couldn't tell from my original post that I was defending aikido with a glib remark makes any "debate" only in your own mind.

    2. Still an idiot.

    3. Stop copying me.

  • or either your meat is really tough to cut threw!!! try some marinade next time to soften up the outer flesh!!!! courtesy of foodtv

  • I'm like the Gordan Ramsey of martial arts and i can tell you if you want to sell your martial art you need variety its the spice of life.

  • This guy isnt a master. He's been doing the same habd lock through out the video.

  • I can see why "Real Aikido" was created... but it isn't Aikido in the evolved form O'Sensei created. Yes, at one time O'sensei's Aikido was very "Martial" like this, but like I have read else where.. this is more Aiki-jujitsu...

    It is graceful and powerful, but not the principles of O'sensei's Aikido.

    Read O'Sensei's biography for a reference.

    Nice demostration. Good Luck.

  • someone, who practised martial art for years, please advise me, which one is the best, karate, shaolin kung fu, taikvando, wushu aikido or jeet ku ne do of bruce lee.

  • None are better than the other. It all depends on what you're interested in and the quality of the instructor. All have valid applications.

  • At present I have been practising wushu, before this I have practised okinava binoryu karatedo for three years. I did not apply those kicks and punches even when I am in street fight. To say frankly, just because ;of my inner fear I did not fight well or just like a ordinary men. Advise me please, give me some suggessions kindly

  • Knowing all the techniques in the world cannot give you the confidence to strike someone in a real situation. That is why I say it is not the art but the instructor that is important. When you train make it real in your mind and still maintain control. If you have a hesitation about striking someone perhaps an art like aikido would be more to your liking. I have used aikido technique in many situations and found it to be very effective despite what critics say about aikido.

  • I am a beginner to aikido, a slight beginner in hapkido.. but am familiar with fighting.. and I say the SAME thing.. aikido has extraordinary use in a dangerous situation, given the right instructor.. I'm not at all shy about fighting in necesscary, so I definitely see it as being more than applicable.. too many people see the grace in the art, instead of the actual application that can be carried out.. it's sad.

  • Try boxing.

  • AKA: "try anything that isn't Asian". If you're racist, try having the balls to say so.

    The founder of Aikido was in search for the true essence of Budo that had been disappearing during the turn of the century and due to U.S. occupation after world war two.

    The techniques in this video are scientifically proven simply by the anatomy and mechanics of the arm.

    the argument about Aikido VS. MMA is silly. One is art, the other is sport. Allow knives in the UFC and then we'll talk.

  • The heck? I simply suggested boxing because it's something where you simply can't get away from hitting another person and being hit in return. Muay Thai kickboxing would possibly be even better.

  • how dare you say "try boxing"

    the cheek! ahahaha!

  • wow didnt you just jump the gun, damn boy you must really have a busy rascist accusing lifestyle

  • JKD is the only one you mentioned that was designed for street fighting as it's number one priority. Karate seems to be creating many students with ego's, especially in the west. Karate also isn't worth dick unless you adapt it for street fighting. Same goes for the others.

  • I adapted the street to my Karate. It took a lot of planning permission and the neighbours were upset, but I'm really pleased with the end result.

  • ok, that was funny

  • lol

  • who the f**k throws a punch like that?

  • Aikido must be quite poor, if u have to reach 1st dan to protect urself against such

    n00b attacks ...

  • O Sensei would've shut Vracarevic's schools down in a heartbeat. I don't know why Doshu hasn't already, it completely goes against aikido, and to be a 10th dan as Vracarevic claims is absurd

  • they write their own dan documents lol :D

  • @KurtCobain198666

    Does budo politics and devotion to traditionalism really matter that much?

    Why would you waste your time on something you consider absurd?

  • @Lillymill actually, yes traditionalism does matter, because it's a dieing thing in the martial arts. Aikido is one of the last traditional arts in the world

  • @KurtCobain198666

    Don't get me wrong.

    I share your appreciation for martial art traditions.

    Although, I never was aikidoka, I used to be annoyed by Vracarevic's claim of reformed aikido myself.

    Now I believe that both these traditional and... well... commercialized versions of budo have their place in the real world.

    While traditionalism preserves significant heritage, modern variations give it back some of the lost edge.

    If there wasn't for modernization, we would've never see any of it here..

  • @KurtCobain198666 Completely agree. They fucked up judo already. It's still possible to practice traditional judo, but those schools are very rare and only on isolated islands in Japan.

  • @FearThisChannel yes! i've studied karate, aikido, jkd, and judo. In my karate school most people were part of the England Karate Team and practiced to compete, same goes for judo. JKD was never s'posed to be traditional so not going to complain about that, but what makes aikido good is that it's usually very strict and practiced traditionally

  • @KurtCobain198666 Precisly. I want to go to Japan for a while (and I'm seriously planning for that) to study Karate arts (both Okinawan and Japanese styles) in their traditional form. The same goes for Judo.

    By the way, is Sumo considered a Budo art these days. I read in "Comprehense Asian Fighting Arts" that Sumo is not officially a Budo art, even though some consider it to be one.

  • @KurtCobain198666 Another art left completely untouched is Aikibudo (Daito Ryu Aiki Jujutsu with some adaptions by Yoseikan Aikido + Katori Shinto Ryu = Aikibudo), which I practice. It's not very well known, but it gains popularity.

  • @FearThisChannel aikibudo wasnt adapted by yoseikan aikido. The way you've made that sound is Yoseikan adapted aikijujutsu, katori, and aikido and created aikibudo. Aikibudo was created by Ueshiba, and was around long before Yoseikan. Yoseikan was created in 1931, aikibudo was around in the '20s. First, aikijujutsu >aikibudo> then aikido. Then came the branches of aikido (in order) Yoseikan (1931) Manseikan (1954) Yoshinkan (1955) Shodokan (1967) Shin Shin Toitsu/Ki Aikido (1971)

  • @KurtCobain198666 You misunderstand what I'm saying. Daito Ryu was Aikibudo first, but it developed under the influence of Yoseikan. Floquet, the leading figure of Aikibudo in Europe, is a student of Mochizuki, that's why Aikibudo became the way it is now.

    P.S. You either didn't know that Aikibudo wasn't created by Ueshiba, or you accidentally typed that.

  • @FearThisChannel i didn't mistype and i'll send you a message with articles stating who created aiki budo

  • @Lillymill We cannot allow it to let all Budo principles that make Budo what Budo is go to waste. If we keep on adapting this, Budo will become Bujutsu again, and that's not how it was meant.

  • @FearThisChannel you mean Bujustu will become Budo, since Bujutsu was around first. Martial arts created before the Meiji Restoration are often called koryū bujutsu which translates to old style martial art/science. Modern martial arts created during or after the Meiji Restoration are called gendai budō, (literally, "modern martial way"). Gendai budō such as "judo", "kendo" and "iaido" came from koryū bujutsu such as "jujutsu". And by the way, aikido is a modern art, not ancient

  • @KurtCobain198666 I know. But BUDO means "the way of the warrior" it's more than simply Bujutsu/Bugei. If we drop all the principles that make a Budo art such as Aikido, it would become a Bugei/Bujutsu again = aiki - jujutsu. Still, new Ninjutsu styles that came after the Meiji Restoration are not Budo, unless you've ever heard about Nindo.

  • @FearThisChannel

    I doubt that Budo can just disappear because different people are after different things in martial arts.

    Or maybe it's just a phase that will bring new kind of Budo in the future. ;)

  • @Lillymill There won't be a 'new kind of Budo' in the future, because then it wouldn't be as it was meant by those who created the art. If we stick to the principles that are given to us, we can preserve the art. If that doesn't please you, sorry kid but then you should've chosen something like Thai Boxing or MMA. If people make up new systems like PROTECTO, it will not be a Budo art anymore, just another SD system. Budo = budo.

  • @FearThisChannel I see what your saying, but this 'stick with what they gave us' rarely follows the attitude of the founder. It's like some of the higher ups in Isshinryu telling there members that they shouldn't train in other arts, they should just focus on mastering isshinryu. But the founder studied in, at the very least, five arts before developing his own. Two of the arts he studied were also amalgamations of multiple martial arts. These guys studied many arts, why shouldn't we?

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  • @KurtCobain198666 You are so misinformated,so you talk bullshit. Learn more about real aikido then talk crap on youtube.

  • @KurtCobain198666 why, what's so bad about this system.

  • @brian7893 the point of aikido is that it's not brutal. The highest level of aikido, according to it's founder, was to neutralise the attack without seriously injuring the attacker. This system goes out of it's way to cause damage, so by the definition of what Ueshiba said aikido is, this ISN'T aikido. This isn' a new style, it's almot identical to aikijujutsu. The attacks are why people call aikido unrealistic, not the techniques, so if they want people to think this is REAL, change the attacks

  • im sorry but a street thug isnt going to attack me with a long telegraphed arching of the arm he's to to use short very fast jabbing motions to the torso area. i've not seen aikido deal with that situation. i'm not saying a practioner of aikido couldn't repel that i've just not seen it.

  • I'm sorry but this demonstration got nothing to do with aikido. nice techniques tough , but this is everything O-sensei didnt want in aikido. to call this "real aikido" is a joke.

  • aikido, only practical when you MASTER it, otherwise... you dont really have much. many other codes however, someone mediocre has something to use. my impression anyways

  • When these guys can show me that they can use their techniques against someone who can use a knife I'll be impressed. And I've trained aikido for 10 years.

    The attacks here are ridiculus.

  • Come on guys. If you're good enough at it, you can apply to the streets.  It's never the style that's impractical...it's the martial artist.

  • spelled defense wrong

  • the begining position is very wrong, for knife atacking. he is actuaky giving his hands to be cut

  • dude... did her really kick the guys knife hand at about 1:55 ? if so .. that awsome !!!.. useless but awsome!!! I praciticed Aikido for years and was tired of it being impractical, however it is a beautiful art.

  • Nice moves but USELESS on the streets.

  • oh, belive me, they are very usefull, especially in the streets

  • yes indeed

    thought i also suggest do learn something like kung fu (and not only judo,aikido,...) because sometimes you need to KO your opponent and not just hold him on the ground...

  • though i know nothing of Aikido , im pretty sure if these guys wanted to cause harm they could easily do it

  • You've actually used in the streets? If so what particular move or what did you do to defend yourself?

  • no i havent, but really i'm not looking forward to such an "oportunity"... as all more or less expiriensed people say: don't fight unless you don't have any other choise (your opponent might have more sirious weapons then you do:p) but i think the more practical moves are ones which alow you to cause sudden pain (but not injury) to your opponent, which will decrease his will to fight...

    please comment this, it's an interesting subject

  • the most practical techniques are irimi nage, koeshi guruma, kotegaeshi, shiho nage and ippon seoi nage. but you need to be very good in aikiod in order to use it on the streets which means 1st dan and up, at least thats my opnion, you're free to share thoughts and thank you

  • well these techniques are surtainly the most common ones

  • and the most useful ones, i train in karate as well and i have 1st dan in aikido, sometimes when i spare with some karatekas i can easily dodge attacks and then i use an aikido technique, but i use atemis most of the times

  • You do realize that every arm lock you see in this vid could easily end up as a dislocated shoulder, broken elbow, broken wrist or a combination of two or more of these? Aikido works if the right person is applying it.

  • WHERE'S THE AIKIDO HERE?

  • Da budem precizniji, poznat mi je ovaj koji je bacan u ovom video (koji gubi). Pretpostavljam da je taj vlasnik ovog racuna (to jest da si to ti) jer sam vidio i druge video zapise.

  • I jedan i drugi smo sad bili na Hilandaru zajedno sa nasim majstorom Ljubom. Ima tu raznih klipova. Pa jeste svet je mali. A i internet je cudo. I tebi sve najbolje.

  • Da budem precizniji, poznat mi je ovaj koji je bacan u ovom video (koji gubi). Pretpostavljam da je taj vlasnik ovog racuna (to jest da si to ti) jer sam vidio i druge video zapise.

  • Nije moguce! Pa ja tebe, brate, znam izvidjenja sa Hilandara! Nismo se upoznali ali sam zapamtio facu, vrlo lako ih pamtim. Slucajno sam naletio na ovaj video i vidi cuda! Svijet je bas mali! Svako dobro ti zelim.

  • Man, that video brought back some great memories. If you looked through the windows on the opposite wall (than the one shown), you would see my old house.  I trained under him for about a year before leaving the country, great memories, great man, great family....and the craziest pet dog...:-)

  • real aikido? y i never knew this is there a fake aikido?, please dont be childish.

  • This simply Aikido reverting back to it's jujutsu roots, although weak technique if you ask me. It's sad that everyone must come up with their own version of their art and claim it as their own, the truth lies on the origin.

  • wft is with the competition judo gi?

  • what is the name of this song?

  • poly kalo !!!!!

  • lol yea cuz when i wanna stab someone i take a baseball like back swing and then stab him this guy would be stabbed like 45 times by the time he pulls something on me like that and how about a gun wat he gona pull matrix shit this martial arts bullshit dont work in real life good cardio tho

  • I doubt it. Those techniques were fast enough to be used against a stab.

    And the hell does a gun have to do with this? In fact from that distance, it's easy as hell to defend yourself against a gun. Guns are normally used from a distance of few meters.

  • Oh you da sh*t ain'tcha! Playas hardcore! WTFEver!

    My question to Mr. Aikido her is, how old are you? I am repulsed by all of these 20something 10th dans! It is a laugh.

  • go back to school and learn some proper english idiot. your just a street rat who probably gets his from ganging up on other people with the other 10 of your hoodlum friends.

  • too dangerous, he has no respect of a sharp knife. he would hurt himself. it's good for training, but in a real situation applying ikkyo or sankyo that way, you can forget, but the techniques are nice and powerful.

  • Ajde bre ameri nemojte da serete vise...dule bre

    kida...realni aikido je do jaja...pitao bi te sine da ti uvati ruku u polugu...evo nesto i za balije...jebao vas alah obrezanim kurcem...aaaaa...picke smrdljive...aikido zakon...

  • whats funny about some of the responses below is even after all these years and after Bruce Lee came in and gave everyone the smack down showing that there is no 1 superior style people still just don't get it. And if you refuse to learn from other martial artists mistakes of the past then YOU will repeat them. Aikido is real and effective but you need to train in other arts as well.

  • Man, I'm happy as hell to see someone else say that, Agile! I can't believe all the idiots who seem to think training in some martial art is like picking a religion- sing the praises, sound like idiots, absolute loyalty, etc.

  • Aikido is more esoteric than practical -- It's not humility that keep the aikido practioners out of the UFC. I train at a fairly high level Aikido instructors school (rent space) and he takes defensive tactics lessons from me, because he knows this stuff only works against drunks. O-sensei was a stud who punched trees in the snow and fought a lot in his youth A small change in training application and sparring intent would up your game by 300%, no risk of injury

  • Fake as all Aikido you said ????

    hahahahahha

    i hope you will never have trouble with an aikidoka or you might be surprise by the fake

    hahahahaha

  • Was für ne Kacke!

  • Just look at 2:48! What is there more to say? Please answer me : would you *really* do that? And this guy that keeps deleting my posts in other Real Aikido videos is insecure in himself because he has no good responses!

  • I mean 2:38 -_-

  • Huh? Do what? Move the guy off balance and take the knife? Would you rather have him cut you?

  • AlekTricity..i would like to see some of your video .. you speak like "real" specialist for martila arts ... please inlight me with your presentation ...enough of talking

    P.S.

    btw how is weather in USA :P

  • Look, this is terrible - that's about all you need to know. If this were ever to be applied in real life, it would end in a rape (at the least). I feel comfortable in my martial arts, so I have no need to post utter non-sence like this video.

  • So, in other words, you're just some BJJ masturbator who does nothing but talk smack that he can't back up? NICE! It's not like we have enough of those!

  • HA!

    Damn this is horrible, in the first defense if the knife wasn't fake, it would cut his leg off.

    And in the other defenses, he makes many show scenes for the same thing, horrible defense.

  • oh my goodness now when you said it i looked the first scene again...he would blood like a hurt pig when the weapon would be real

  • Nice...

  • hhahahaha, this is teh gay. And I like the attacked on rollerblades comment. Nice.

  • I am not attacking anyone's style, everyone has a right to defend it. But as I said in a previous RA thread, unless your opponent is wearing Rollerblades, this will not function. You want an effective martial art developed in Serbia? See Kyokushinjutsu.

  • he would have died in the first defence!! thats bullshit!!!

  • I think that if you armed a manatee with a knife it would attack with more grace than this :D

  • Man... this is something that would never work in real life...plus I can't help but notice the emphasis on how "serbian" this martial art is..

  • I am sorry but this should not be called Real Aikido but Bad Aikido.

  • Why bad? Of course, I think every aikido is real :) I like this style.

  • Hello libor2,

    I return the question, why calling this Real Aikido? I call it Bad Aikido because it is not Aikido and nether Real Aikido...

  • Hello,

    Well, it's not an official Aikido style and I think the name has been chosen just to make it popular. I've practiced Judo and now practicing Yoshinkan Aikido recognizing some techniques in it. This style is really real, but I agree with you it's not an aikido style.

  • This SHIT cannot work, he would be killed with those suicide defences...

  • citava prica ne bi bila pokrenuta da video nije sranje.

    Kad stavis "real aikido" i posle toga "Defence from a knife", a onda okacis neku glupost (pri tom se pominje 10.dan)sve ispadne cirkus(koreografija).Snimak nema veze sa realnoscu a tek nema veze sa nivoom nekog rada.Sto se tice moje kompetentnosti ja mislim da je ok.(4. dan dzudoa,1. taekwondo-a,maticni sport grcko-rimski stil, a u realnom imam majstorsk zvanje od '98).Ponavljam da snimci makar lice na nesto price ne bi bilo.

  • Prvo opet nisi rekao kako se zoves! I nije lepo da o bilo kome tako pises a najmanje o meni! Nesto ti neverujem da sa svojih 23 god imas tolika zvanja ali nema veze! Ti da si neki dobar majstor ti bi stavio svoj klip a ne od drugih majstora. Meni su mnogo veci majstori od tebe rekli da je ovo super i da samo tako nastavim. Ovi mi znace a sta ostali misle bas me briga. Samo ne volim da neko pricas neke budalstine za mene i moj rad.

  • Momci nema potrebe za raspravom. Ovo je odlicno i kao i svaki drugi stil on ima prednosti i mane. Lep odbrambeni stil. Mada iskreno ja vise volim capueru ili jet kun doo :D

  • bas je lako postati majstor na internetu zar ne? ja ti kao jedan neverujem ni malo da imas tolika zvanja jer da imas (a posebno 4.dan u dzudou) nebi pricao tako o vestinama ostalih. U ostalom ako si ti tako super pokazi nam tvoje video a ne da kenjas drugima

  • Video je odlican kao i ova dva mlada majstora, a zavist upotrebi na strunjaci pa zapni mozda i ti dostignes taj nivo sto oni poseduju. Vezbaj pa ces i ti biti majstor. I oni vezbaju svaki dan po vise sati kod majstora Vracarevica.

  • Ovo je super, ne znam zasto neki ljudi pricaju da ovo nije dobro, ovo moze doneti dobro ovoj vestini, a ne kako neki pisu ovde.

  • Predpostavljam da ti jos nemas crni pojas i da ti to smeta sto neki mladji od tebe imaju. Razmumem ja tebe da si ljubomoran ali mora da se trudis da steknes znanje pa ce i tebe majstor vracarevic pustiti da polazes. Time sto si napisao da ja zasluzujem plavi ili braon pojas time ne postujes majstora Vracarevica ako imas nesto protiv njega slobodno njemu to reci.

  • Drugo, ja mislim da ti nisi kompetentan da pricas o tome ko zasluzuje koji pojas. Moj majstor je samo jedan a to je Ljubomir Vracarevic nosialac crnog pojasa 10 dan - Soke (to je ako nisi znao titula za osnivaca stila). On licno je meni dodelio crni pojas prvi dan jos pre 3 godine i ja ne treniram 2 godine nego vec 12 godina sto ti verovatno nikad neces uspeti.

  • Izvini...zasto pljujes po tvorcu vestine cije majstore prikazujes? U cemu je tvoj problem? Jos nisi dobio zvanje majstora? Sva sreca pa nije svo zvanje u pojasevima...nauci se postovanju Majstora Ljubomira Vracarevica..Ja bih na tvom mestu poceo da se bavim strelicarstvom...ili odmah predji na domine :D

    P.S.

    Ovi klinci imaju najmanje 10 god treniranja iza sebe...

  • Hvala za komentar!

  • Vidim da Ljuba sve vise pravi cirkus nego sto radi na vestini.Cujem da sad svakom klincu daje crni pojas posle dve godine.Nije ni cudeo sto svi ozbiljni ljudi polako odlaze.Snimak(ovaj i palica) je negde na nivou

    plavog-braon pojasa.ovakvi snimci mogu samo da nanesu stetu vestini

  • Prvo, da li bi mogao da se predstavis, da znam sa kime razgovaram, ja sam napisao svoje ime i prezime! Nastavak malo nize dole

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