Dark Star - Bomb 20

[laxiton]

This movie makes me wanna shave my balls and grow a mustache!

[arbanaskocudo]

its like movie spaceballs

[Frankiewizard]

Great stuff I have always thought of this film as something special.Cheers

[pnutpuss]

I did not appreciate this movie when it first came out. Now, I find it a masterpiece!

[theGhoulman]

How to disarm a bomb? Teach it phenomenology. ! lol! Great clip, love this oldie. Dan O'bannon, Joe Dante, John Carpenter! All these guys went on to make classic films though this is probably the only time you'll ever see O'Bannon with a joint in his hand in a control room. lol

[integral]

Brilliant. Love this movie and this sequence is pure stoned genius.

[SteffanLlwyd]

Love the idea of hippies in space.

[Slappo1]

This scene is such genius.

[Alvaris]

can the volume be any lower?

[Zugvogel1]

"There be light"

*Whoooooooooommmmmmmmm*

[gwodus]

On the bomb timer it says: Time -> Use only at sub light velocity.

CLASSIC!!!

[kuribayashi84]

The SFX are damn good, considering the Movies' age and its Budget of 60.000 $

[misterrbrown]

Bombay? it's stuck in India?

I think you mean Bomb Bay.

[LaburnumDorado]

@misterrbrown: The bomb won't mind.

[VanRootstuck]

1:33

This is fun :)

[crawleygat37]

I just love this film. Low budget sci fi films from the 60s ad 70s rock..!!

[demoghist]

I love you John Carpenter.

[orcgoat]

how most of my chats with philosphy majors end

[holysmoke721]

This Movie really was" The Bomb."....Time For a remake...

[ThePennyboy]

i thought this was darkstar dubstep song at first haha

[Spydefender]

COOL MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nazaxprime]

Maybe you could add *Spoiler* to this?

/shrug

I have not seen this and I cant help but feel like this should have a spoiler tag...

Thanks anyhow, now I know... and knowing is half the battle?

:P

[MAJORdorMo1992]

Funny how such a gem of a scene came from such a shitty movie.

[AspiringPotato]

@MAJORdorMo1992

20 years later and the movie can become good if it is remembered solely by this scene. I think there's a fair separation between good scenes we remember and good movies we remember.

[MAJORdorMo1992]

@AspiringPotato

That sounds reasonable, but I saw this movie only a few months ago because I thought this scene was genius.

You can imagine my disappointment.

[AspiringPotato]

@MAJORdorMo1992

lol haven't even seen the full thing. Carpenter hasn't made anything good for a decade anyway... His best work was with The Thing, shortly after this. Now that, is a good movie with good scenes.

[RenegadeShepard]

"This is fun!" LOL! at the delivery of that line! I'm interested in seeing this movie but not sure if I have time to... to quote the bomb "I must ponder this further" (stops writing comment)

[RPFS2008]

@RenegadeShepard

""This is fun!" LOL! at the delivery of that line! I'm interested in seeing this movie but not sure if I have time to... to quote the bomb "I must ponder this further" (stops writing comment)"

Your sensory apparatus must be faulty because the correct quote is "I must think on this further" ;)

[mikeandhev]

A bomb that talks - how cool is that! I very much like the warning sign on the face of the bomb CAUTION THERMOSTELLAR DEVICE, great!

[HALel9000]

I bat off...therefore I am

[HudsonAO8TQ1]

in the future, we all have badass moustaches

[ziggys5]

@HudsonAO8TQ1 @ we will also all start smoking again

[graciousSenor]

Brain fuck? No, not necessarily. But it does make one think.

[KurtisERIK]

This film demonstrates what creativity will do in the absence of a big budget. Its hilarious. A man having a philosophical talk with a bomb. Its a good argument for keeping artificial intelligence away from destructive hardware.

[floatingcompassmedia]

A spoof of 2001and riped off by so many

[nozscrap]

Does the Dodgers exist in the middle of 21th century?

[billmarrs]

RIP Dan O'Bannon

[rothhar]

A great movie, think I will have to pull the dvd out and watch it today.

should have let Boiler shoot the support pins

[BrendanIsCool]

now I need to listen to some pinback

[crookedspokeadjacent]

or to put it another way...

1:do you know my friend Beth?

2:why yes i do

1:isn't she cute?

2:yes, she looks kind of like Leeloo from the fifth element

1:Milla Jovovich?

2:oh you've seen that movie too?

1:yes i have and i agree with you, they do look a little alike

there you go the universe exists

[crookedspokeadjacent]

lol dang i heard this was a memorable philosophical conversation but my i've had this conversation with people before in like Gr 10 drunk at a beach party lmao. i'm not saying i'm smart I'm just saying this is isn't exactly deep.

how do i know that what's red to me isn't green to you? well in reality (and it's there, just talk to someone who disagrees with you about anything and you'll see that the world is very real and exists outside of yourself) it doesn't matter cause you both call it red

[John27346]

The universe is real, but the way it is perceived is objective. Colour only exists in animals which see in colour; To a deaf person, sound doesn't exist. There is no correct way to view the world.

[crookedspokeadjacent]

but dude if we cant see something that truly does exist, than we ARE incorrect. the universe is right, and we're wrong.

[John27346]

As I said before, The universe is real but our perception of it can vary, but it doesn't matter because it is only our perception of reality. It's a kind of existential thing.

[crookedspokeadjacent]

ok so if it doesnt matter, you might as well be right. existentialism is I.M.O.

an easy way out of philosophy or debate.

[John27346]

What I said wasn't meant to close off the debate.

Imagine if the universe contained no sentient being/thing. In this universe, colour and sound, for example, would not exist.

A colour only becomes a colour when different wavelengths of light are interpreted by the brain as colour.

Reality can't be seen, only interpreted.

[crookedspokeadjacent]

your right, what i said was neither here nor there.

but those wavelengths of light would still be there. if you took away any method of perceiving infrared light (which is lower in energy than ultraviolet) and any method of viewing ultraviolet (higher in energy than infrared) than those wavelengths of light would still have the SAME relation to each other that the "colours" did, no?

[John27346]

Sorry for the late reply. anyway,

I keep saying the universe is real, we both agree on that. Try jumping off a tall building and imagining you can fly. It won't work.

Taking IR light as an example, humans can only feel infrared on their skin, but some animals can see at this wavelength.

You can't imagine how they see in IR because you are human. Their reality is so different to ours that humans can't experience it.

What we call reality is filtered through our senses.

[crookedspokeadjacent]

i know i really just dont see the "point" of this theory. you cant act on the ideas you get from it because you have no proof that it is correct data. you might as well not be talking to me about this because you have no proof that it is correct data.

[John27346]

Isn't it proof enough to say that you and I can never truly imagine what a bat experiences when it "sees" in the dark with echo location?

[crookedspokeadjacent]

well perhaps not with the current level of technology available to us, but if it's grounded in real science, why not?

[John27346]

To experience a bat's existence, you have to be a bat in a bat's body.

You and I are human.

Do you think we have a soul?

[crookedspokeadjacent]

you and i are animals made up of matter and energy, which are really just different states of the same thing. so is a bat.

and i dont think we have a soul.

[John27346]

OK, we both agree that we have no soul; You and me are the product of our brain/body. Our consciousness depends on our brain/body because there is no soul. A bat is a bat because it has the brain of a bat and the body of a bat.

[crookedspokeadjacent]

which kind of bat?

[crookedspokeadjacent]

moreover, which individual bat?

[John27346]

Any kind of bat, or any kind of animal. I thought a bat would be a good example because of the way it senses things.

You're getting the hang of it when you ask "which individual bat".

Bat's minds are separate like our minds.

[crookedspokeadjacent]

so then ur not really saying anything when you say "a bat". thats what i meant man. u cant use generalities like that when ue talking to me if ur whole point argues against the possibility of an applicable generality.

[KzrrainzYes]

It took me about 20 minutes to find this on Google since I forgot the title and haven't seen it in a while. Great movie.

[0ldfinger]

One of my favourite all time films.

[upallhours9]

These older movies have poor special effects, but they make the viewer think.

[AspiringPotato]

@upallhours9

Yeah, they don't make them like they used to.

Now it all has to be CG laden crap like Avatar where they hit you over the head with an unnuanced plot like "Love the environment and hate the humans and you too may have sex with the blue chick."

[fairportfan2]

@upallhours9 Considering that the total cost of the movie - including all special effects - was somewhere between $35,000 - $60,000 (less than Easy Rider)...

[LaburnumDorado]

@upallhours9: Think about this one: State of the art SFX won't make a movie any better. Poor SFX won't make it worse.

[KE5RHD]

Gregory Jein was one of the effects men who designed the 3d computer graphics and computer screens. He designed the computer graph of the ship's schematics. He went on to do the same thing on Star Wars, A New Hope and then Star Trek movies. He designed the on screen schematics of the Death Star when they had the strategy meeting about how to destroy it.

[Iblisrastaban]

a very enjoyable movie, watched it two days ago! But I would call it " How can a bomb develop solipsism through Carthesian idealism"

[MarcoThePrimate]

The real question is why would it be unafraid to cease its existence upon detonation, maybe programmers have learned the lesson well after HAL 9000´s fiasco. This bomb does not even ask if it is going to dream... Intriguing kamikaze ideology.

[buckaroo2323]

qi the guy with the beard is dan o bannon he was dissapointed with the alien beachball with claws he was inspired to write the original screenplay for alien

[MaracaTastic]

This seems to have lots of bits missing. Is it from the short version?

[sitemountain]

The ending of Dark Star was based  on a Ray Bradbury short story called Kaleidoscope from his book 'The Illustrated Man". It's somewhat different to this but also very good with a nice touch at the end which the film misses out. I won't spoil it for you though... read the book. (The rest of the stories are very good too & spawned a pretty good shortened 70's movie which misses out 'Kaleidoscope').

[htomsirveaux42]

I have been searching for 12 years on what the name of that story was it was thanks to this film I found it again

[sitemountain]

Hey! Thanks to me too buddy!!

[htomsirveaux42]

well it was really from another Dark Star video were someone told me that, but thanks anyway

[shouldistillneedone]

Greatest John Carpenter movie ever.

[TroyaE117]

00.43 :

"Hello bomb"

[LordLugburz]

This movie is very freaky, just due to the whole setup

[dovestones]

This is a very funny scene.

What with this and the Beachball with Claws!!

Great movie.

[tacgirl2000]

Garboil, I agree with you and have often thought about it. Dan O'Bannon, John Carpenter - amazing! If it triggers discussion from newcomers about Solipsism, logic, history of science fiction - great. You just have to see the entire movie to really enjoy the theatric and surreal humor. Whenever I see an old beach ball, I want to get some rubber chicken feet and I still remember a lot of words of Benson, Arizona!

[ZootSteppah]

How is logic its own science if everyone's perception of it varies?

[streabarra]

this reminds me of * bit theatre

[stashyjon]

one of the greatest sci-fi scenes of all time

[newexperiment]

P1:"A implies B"is true. "A"is true, Thus B is true.

P2:You have an unstated major premise: "If A implies B is true,and A is true,then B is true"

P1:So to be complete;"If A implies B is true and A is true then B is true" is true. "A implies B" is true. "A" is true. Thus B is true.

P2: No wait, you missed another one.

P1: What? which?

P2: "If "If A implies B is true and A is true then B is true"is true and"A implies B"is true is and"A"is true then B is true" would have to be true also.

P1: ,,,

[newexperiment]

If I said pure science would that make you more comfortable? Yes they have equivalents, The experiments and observations are done in the abstract. And falsification is core to both math and philosophy, but no to logic. Why not to logic? Falsification is the part of any science that guarantees science is logical. A theory Claims A implies B, which is false if you have just one observed case of A and not B. That IS logic. Logic is not falsifiable in the way that you are used to. Continued.

[ChoujiMan]

The bomb talks like one of my best friends. :/

[garboil]

this has got to be the best sci fi film ever made. still my favorite after all these years. frikkin genius. Love the Dan O'Bannon alien showdown, hilarious.

[KzrrainzYes]

This means, we have no proof of anything.

Interesting.

[John27346]

So you mean this is proof that we have no proof to anything?

[htomsirveaux42]

is this like the Bizarro 2001: A Space Odyssey?

[DaSeek3r]

One of the best endings to a film. Destroy the ship and have a guy surfboard down a planet's atmosphere

[Specter1957]

thought this was one of the best scenes in the film.....then again the whole movie was warped( and very entertaining)

[QCIC56]

Let there be light...

[SecuR0M]

Great movie.

[blingpings]

It just goes to show, you can't be too careful!

[gbilios]

any reason why?

[THADI0US]

why?

[algoyo]

Yes. BAN EVERYTHING

[dingles4breakfast]

BAN IT ALL!

Fucking video's and what not, what the hell where they thinking.

[brybish]

that computer voice is so sexy.

[GBart]

This is the greatest scene in cinematic history. Too bad the rest of the movie blows.

[DaSeek3r]

Well the movie had very (and I mean very) little budget. Of course it blowed if all it's special effects and script writing were done in 5 minutes

[anglaismoyen]

what's with the dancing/fighting people with the strange music?

[KamasutraButterfly]

This movie is scary! Even more so because it really feels like this could actually happen in real life! What if machines starts thinking like this? Then where are we gonna end up??

[DaSeek3r]

The bomb is just acting like a suicidal human with a bomb strapped to his chest. All you need is some psychology to stop him from pressing the big red button

[Protagonist]

@ DaSeek3r

Thats not exactly true.

A bomb has a purpose for its existence, a sucicidal human (or any human for that matter) doesnt. Trying to convince a bomb to not detonate would be impossible from a psychological standpoint. Thats way people who believe there on a mission from god, regardless of there intentions, are so dangerous. They can justify any action they take.

Phenomenology is a philosophical study of how we perceive our surroundings. Its different from psychology.

[DaSeek3r]

Hmm that is a good point. This is a highly debatable topic actually when you think about it

[Magalia369]

Sadly, the bomb pushes the button

[IrishN00B]

The elavator and diary-scenes are clearly the best and funniest. I laughed my ass off.

[anton1990]

Fantastic movie. Very tragic ending, and a bit scary, the bomb is a bit intimidating.

[gbilios]

Dan O' Bannon screenwriter of the first Alien movie.

[chr40004]

My favourite movie ever!

[54spiritedwill54]

This is an example of why Philosophy is the most important thing there is.

[hgn53k]

One of THE best movies ever!

I loved this film!

Regards

Andy

[chichimus]

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[Gefilta]

there are only 10 types of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

[rundata]

wow thats original :/

[Gefilta]

yes and no

[rundata]

:/ tewl

[Gefilta]

Transepidermal Water Loss ?

[gbilios]

you can convert it to hexadecimal!!

[captainpanic08]

What a cool concept. Shame yo.u don't see many modern films that don't reflect philosophy in an interesting way. Just bilge like Quantum of Solace

[Pieinthesky999]

of course its fake!

[kant0r]

Captain Obvious strikes again!

[megatan12]

Descartes medititation I and II.

[PinkMimosa]

This is such an awesome obscure underrated movie and one of my all time top ten faves.

[FlyingIntoTheSun]

"I have no proof you are really telling me this". Brilliant, a true classic. Phenomenology in outer space. The ending to the film is so funny too. As I recall the captain is permanently in cryo although I can't remember why.

[brighterwest]

cause hes dead

[Kaprieve]

man that Bomb is funny

[geoffjburch]

"This is fun!"

[Lam1ngton]

lol I never realized Dark Star was this funny :p

[Joeyv415]

Oh this isn't darkstar orchestra.. lol

[Joeyv415]

they were awesome at the vibes this year!

[loftydowns]

"Wouldn't you consider another course of action? For example, just waiting around a while so we can disarm you?"

Bomb: No.

Haha, Bomb is my inspiration.

[raherecolston]

Thannx metaclips. good vid. I called my motorbike Dark Star after this pic!

Saw this at the cinema with phantom of the Paradise, about 28 yrs ago

[Sifeca1]

"Tolby just left the ship without a lifeline"

"That was a dumb thing for him to do."

BTW, the music is NOT "retro" synth music. When this came out, that WAS the synth music, it wasn't retro. :-)

Who said that my generation was dull? I know, I know, we went through that Disco phase, but we also had this too.

I have the original VHS release at home, and I still play it once in a while.

The credits song is called "Benson Arizona" and I have no idea why John used it, but it works.

[nineteenthly]

Wow!  Sense of humour bypass.

[nineteenthly]

This is an example of why Philosophy is the most important thing there is.

[Hakudohshi]

And yet a philosphy degree gets you so little...

[nineteenthly]

On the contrary. It's the key to happiness. It's mere money it doesn't get you.

[nineteenthly]

Philosophy and mathematics are intimately connected. What do you make of Principia Mathematica?

[dibbuck]

Newton or Russel? The fomer a work of revolutionary insight, the latter a work of misguided bloat.

[nineteenthly]

I don't see us as opposed. I agree that Russell and Whitehead were barking up the wrong tree, but probably for different reasons than yours.

The aim of life is the acquisition of wisdom as opposed to knowledge or information per se, and both Philosophy and mathematics can help with that. Wisdom is the essence of happiness.

[nineteenthly]

Sorry for another post (not impressed by YouTube's approach to this).  Newton would see himself as a philosopher too. Wittgenstein got from engineering via mathematics to Philosophy. Continental philosophy, which is indeed largely b*ll*cks, is rather unlike mathematics and more akin to literature.

[newexperiment]

Mathematics and philosophy are both applied science. They are in the realm of applied logic. And before you bother, no logic is not part of philosophy nor part of mathematics - It's it''s very own science.

[nineteenthly]

Science involves the application of specific assumed philosophical principles to what is understood to be observation. These principles can be called into question philosophically. If you had two theories which equally well described a phenomenon and falsification was unfeasible or impossible , one choice which might be made is to use Occam's razor, bur logic doesn't dictate that. Also, social forces influence change in scientific theories. I think we can agree these boxes are too small!

[nineteenthly]

I'm interested in what you mean by science. Does it necessarily involve experimentation, falsification and observation? You use the word in a manner i find uncomfortably broad.

[lousaffire]

mathmatics is for failed philosophers

[sewiedess]

oh, what the hec, EXPLODE! lets push the red button NOW!!!

[loneshanakyle]

Hi,Rob and Candi! Don´t know if I´m in the sad bastard club but I´d like to join! Could use some of your ontology!...And I saw I was alone!!...uh ohh!!

[candiFLA]

ah memories. i laughed so hard with the beach ball alien. i LOVE dark star. such sad and lonely men... just like me.

[robj200735]

I know how you feel, candifla, sincerely. You're okay in my book

[SteffanLlwyd]

Love this film. Thanks for posting. It has a great premise: that space is too boring for words and that space-explorers get too lazy to fix important faults. A bit like life on weekends in English suburbs. I can't be bothered to vacuum clean the heat exchanger on the back of the freezer, or fix the airlock in the shower pump. I know the Dark Star feeling well enough, but the consequences are milder down here.

[ayn0612]

I think ,therefore I am.

[robj200735]

Dan O'Bannon as Pinback and the talking bomb, great movie this was. I loved the retro synthesizers too

[LivingDog94]

5* I saw this years ago when I was a kid. I thought it was great then and I think it is great today. Genius never grows old. :)

And NETFLIX has it...

[bistwasist]

you should see this movie while being stoned! One of the funniest experiences of my life!

[darkstar6909]

One of my all time favs obviously

[Ralexand1988]

I love this movie!

[GentleSavage1]

that was really a cool movie

[1944epiphonedolphin]

This has been the dumbest, yet most concise coloquy concerning agnostic existentialism I have been subjected to yet (way more terse than Satre, but not as funny).

[odraconiandevil79]

paranoid genius.

Got this on tape for my birthday and contains MORE footage than the DVD!

[adriansalamandre]

what a great movie this is

[Preninthecleric]

I think therefor I am - I think I am...

[adriansalamandre]

i think therefore i think i am

[ELGROOVER]

I think so

[Abernis]

I think therefore I am, I think ..

[lukenukem1976]

I love Carpenter in equal measure I hate him. No sitting on fence with his films! This film is genius. lets hope they don't remake The Thing! Well no,not strictly speaking, I just hope they don't populate it with teenagers or women. The original was a bunch of dudes who needed the excuse of an alien to bring out their latent prejudice's. God bless chain smoking John!

[chromious]

Whoops. I think 'they' already did. JC being the first to do it.

[lukenukem1976]

Yes. I know that. I will state clearer. I hope 'they' don't remake a remake.

[Rothirsch]

One of my favorite movies. John Carpenters cool & cheeky answer to Kubricks "2001"! I wish, they digitally restored it the next time. The DVD versions on the market are unfortunately all of bad picture-quality.

[paktype]

I love this movie. Its the perfect thing to watch when you want to spark up a blunt and sit back and relax.

[tesla4d]

*This* is why you shouldn't give weapons consciousness.

[roidroid]

but we give weapons TO consciousnesses, what's the difference.

Should we submit our soldiers to mind control so we can control them?

I shall invent this mind control device and name it "propaganda".

[tesla4d]

Good point.

In fact, the only difference I can think of is that a sentient weapon would need to sacrifice itself to fulfill it's purpose.

That could result in interesting conundrums, depending on whether they become like suicide bombers vying for their place in paradise like jihadists, or like pacifists, demanding not to be sacrificed in vain...