IS IT TIME?! Go to USRevolution2 (dot com) and get your flag of the Second American Revolution. They were recently all over the tax day rallies in Boston and D.C. They will also soon appear in Bob Basso’s new Thomas Paine videos and on Showtime’s “Weeds” show. They look exactly like the flag of Betsy Ross with a Roman numeral “II” in the center of the 13 stars. This flag is now in all 50 states and spreading from porch to porch. They make great gifts for family, friends and recovering Liberals.
IS IT TIME?! Go to USRevolution2 (dot com) and get your flag of the Second American Revolution. They were recently all over the tax day rallies in Boston and D.C. They will also soon appear in Bob Basso’s new Thomas Paine videos and on Showtime’s “Weeds” show. They look exactly like the flag of Betsy Ross with a Roman numeral “II” in the center of the 13 stars. This flag is now in all 50 states and spreading from porch to porch. They make great gifts for family, friends and recovering Liberals.
New Hampshire is where its at. I live in Washington State and it sucks so damn bad. I cant wait to get out of this god for saken dumbass state. New Hampshire, here I come
@pete5668 I live in NH and it sucks balls. Thank god for being so close to Mass!
On the same note, I think it's so funny that these people move to NH to avoid income tax (as they hate the fed) yet they work in Mass because there's no jobs in NH, and thus end up paying Mass income tax plus the high NH property tax.
yes we must try to kick everyone in the white house out for what they have done, too bad it will never happen, only way is to burn it down with them trapped in it.
@TheTrueJBV3737 Actually I meant out of the union, I like most of the guys in the white house right now, and even if I didn't only morons think they'd be better off without government institutions working to protect them, think the military.
youtube... if you bleong to disney with a record of censoring people's opinions, then can you(tube) say so? so we(the people) won't waste our time by stating opinions that the company that youtube belongs to(google) will censor. WE (the people) thought that at one time the internet was free(at least in opinion).
not so much anymore.... we all know that eventually every independent body sells itself out eventually, but this is rediculous.
Excellent movement - It would behoove EVERY state to start a states rights movement. very American , very Constitutional. Did you know grade schools teach states rights are not as important (or necessary) as Federal laws?? I've seen it with my own eyes. Very disturbing to see.
Dude lets smoke a doobie and go topless open carry !!!!!! free keene.hippie from the pot head ex hippie's and their kids..... hey can i borrow your gun the gun store didn't accept my food stamps ........
Don't bother, he'll just take it as some weird victory, he's just looking to get a rise out of you. Don't respond to him, don't acknowledge his existence, just thumb down his inane comments and move along. Eventually he'll get bored and find some other channel to troll.
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Not me buddy...been doing this for quite awhile now and I'm not going anywhere...third party non acknowledgement or not. The thumbs down keep me coming back for more....because it is a sign that I am driving at least 5 to 10 people nutty enough to even bother clicking such a stupid thing.
You know, you could be focusing that energy into personality modification, in time you might actually be able to get a women, or a man, or whatever species floats your boat. Just a thought.
"Don't respond to him, don't acknowledge his existence"...Do as I say but not as I do? LOL. Your reply is lame and way overused - at least my sarcasm is original - come on challenge me with some real witticisms - like Rosie the Riveter says...YOU CAN DO IT!
States want their rights ... well where's the state that wants to stop TAKING rights from it's residents?
I would be more interested in a state that actually intends to give back rights to property owners and all individuals, rather than play tug of war with the fed over who gets to control the serfs.
The distance between you and that which you allow to influence your life, both physically and emotionally, is inversely proportional to your Liberty. 1) God 2) Self 3) Family 4) Friends 5) Neighbors 6) Neighborhood 7) Town 8) Township 9) County 10) State/Country 11) Federation 13) Continent 14) Hemisphere 15) World
SC house passed a sovereignty bill, went to the Senate, Senate passed but changed it, then last week it went back to the SC house and they passed but changed it, now it goes back to the SC Senate. I think it will pass and get signed this month!
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Yes - but is youtube shouting around that other people are fascists when they themselves are censored? No. They are not - but genius ofitsownweight would be the first to hand out kleenex boxes if someone wanted him "banned". These people want to disembowel a youtube "troll" - yet sing Xmas carols to shitheads in prison.
" communists in Washington" this is incorrect they are fascists, a different type of socialism the: American version. Regular talking heads, daily press... that cultivate stupidity and harvest ignorance use that "communist talk" as well, because it divides the people: perhaps collectivists would be better? not sure, D.C. = economic socialist fascist imperialism... I guess would be more exact..... something to describe foe... just be better, not sure what. Good vid though, liked very much:-)
I hear you Dave, not sure, I have no direct experience with the Yugocommies. If an advantage is for us to 'name it' then perhaps we all should consider what the best name of the elimination of freedom is, i.e. that gains us the most support then we all (have better choice) can incorporate it... perhaps it needs to appeal more to emotions than to logic :-) In Freedom
There are no communists in Washington. There are no socialists in Washington (except maybe Bernie Sanders.)
But I would agree with you that the halls of congress, the white house, and the courts are chock-full of corporate fascists.
The Business Party rules. To confuse the ideology of the Business Party with communism or socialism is either an egregious error or calculated Orwellian doublespeak.
That's the free stater movement for you. They change language to fit their agenda, like every time they accuse government of "taking away their freedoms." Nothing has changed when it comes to freedoms. What they mean is "the government is taxing us, and we think taxation is wrong." But they're too fucking dishonest to phrase it that way.
taxes = theft or looting is that direct enough for you?
You are a slave to the power that be(s), and I may add you are a "good slave" in giving up ALL your freedom,= civil liberty +as well as economic.... In fact I can think of no better drone for state run society then perhaps you. In Freedom,
True the atrocities of man have always used your legal argument. Taxes are suppose to provide service/products at the barrel of a gun, which we all know is wrong, but when we paint it up as "legal" we can get the lower thinking slaves to accept it. If this is not true why does the legal establishment fear making it truly voluntary? I'd happily & freely pay for 'good' services of accountability. The fact that establishment use(s) a gun it hides under the pretense of 'legal' = proof of Truth.
They have thrown away the constitution for some time now and yes you are correct the state run society will collapse for the same reason the soviet one did, besides they don't "obey" so why should it not? But Soceity is separate from state, society X # of individuals will get along much better without the state, so there is hope. The same thing that held individuals together before the constitution.
Really? Society will hold itself together? I wonder how it's going to do that wihtout state-run jails to hold all the murderers, rapists, and thieves. Good luck with that.
Most of the people in the U.S. state run concentration camps (prisons by your terms) are in fact there for non violent reasons. Their Masters did not approve of their behavior, so they used your 'legal' argument to drag the slave to the state re-education camps where they label the word rehabilitate on them, after they are raped, fed food that gives parasites etc & if they promise to be a 'good slave' they are then released back to the animal farms for humans called the U.S.A.
What 85%+ are non violent crimes. So by definition it is you who live un conscience aware of what is, is. You'd rather not see the tyranny around you and live a callous life as it is easier for such to do so, but there is no return as well. Criminals are played up for the purpose of the state's agenda. It works very well with minds like yours. You are an easy slave to control. The state gives you the idea and the idea itself enslaves you without you even knowing or ever being self aware of
Thank you very much for the correction, it is true and perhaps their is hope for even you, as you must have some consciousness to see that :-) What you are really asking is is keeping the current prison system worth the next crime to humanity stage of man? With only 15% of the crimes being violent I say no the prisons on average are hurting man more than helping him. Beside if everyone was armed then surely the violent crimes would be closer to 0 and there would be no need for prisons at all.
the income tax actually is illegal. there is no law that says you have to pay income taxes on wages. Income is defined as corporate gains. But the IRS doesn't care about the law and neither do the courts. You have to pay your taxes! Who knows what would happen if the U.S. Government didn't continue making minimal payments, paying the interest and not the principle?!
Mussolini created the word fascism and defined it to mean "the merger of state and corporate power." Corporations are organizations created to concentrate and accumulate massive amounts private capital.
Communism is essentially the abolition of private capital.
They are not the same thing. They are not even derivative off shoots of one another, in fact they are at opposite ends of the spectrum of economic ideologies.
"Fascism was not as its advocates boasted an original product of the Italian mind. It began with a split in the ranks of Marxian socialism, which certainly was an imported doctrine. Its econ programme was borrowed from German non-Marixian socialism & its agressiveness likewise copied from Germans the All-deutsche or Pan-German forerunners of the Nazis. Its conduct of gov affairs was a replica of Lenin's dictatorship. Corporativism its much advertised ideological adornment was of British origin
From the dust heap of discarded socialist utopias, the Fascist scholars salvaged the scheme of guild socialism. Guild socialism was very popular with British socialists in the last yrs of first world war & 1st yrs following Armistice. It was so impracticable that it disappeared very soon from socialist literature. It was almost forgotten when the Fascists attached it to a new label & the flamboyantly proclaimed corporativism as the new social panacea.
You can copy wikipedia and regurgitate the libertarian convention "wisdom" verbatim. Congratulations on that.
You claim corporate fascism and communism are essentially the same thing, but you fail to explain how that is even possible when communism is the abolition of private capital, and corporatism is the glorification of it.
"when the fascists attached to it (socialism) a new label."
So you are saying Mussolini just re-labeled what he had previously called a "dead ideology."
The programme of the Fascists, as drafted in 1919 was vehemently anti-capitalistic. Most radical New Dealers & even communists could agree with it. When Fascists came to power, they had forgotten those points of their programme which referred to the liberty of thought & press& right of assembly. In this respect they were conscientious disciples of Bukharin & Lenin. Moreover they did not suppress as they promised: industrial & financial corps. Their problem was to win confidence foreign banks
"in 1919 the fascists were vehemently anti-capitalistic."
Mussolini and the fascists took power in 1922 by creating an alliance with industrialists and capitalists and employing classical liberal economic policies (not socialism.)
So to claim that they were vehemently anti-capitalistic is false.
American capitalists loved Mussolini, and supported other fascists like Franco and even Hitler.
Mussolini's Fascist Manifesto was a very progressive document, but he ignored it when he took power.
Right and that is why "Their problem was to win the confidence of foreign banks " they added what they needed, their country was desperate for capital... Good to see you are reading your Mises:-)
"their problem was to win the confidence of foreign banks."
The reason foreign capitalists loved Mussolini was because he was not a socialist. They didn't care if he was a dictator, in fact they probably encouraged that. As long as he wasn't a socialist.
Interesting you keep focusing on capitalism aspect when there are many others as well. Why not focus on the one thing that they "all" have in common, the gun in the room, that no one wants to see or admit. IF these systems are so great why do they ALL rely on the force to prove their point? why not voluntary exchange by the people? Interesting isn't not? I don't want to be part of your Statist religion, so am I free to not be part? No, Am I free to volunteer to not volunteer? No I am Not.
We should strive to make our own civilization more democratic and egalitarian, but at the same time I am a realist and I don't believe utopia is achievable.
All civilizations regardless of ideology have force as a common denominator.
You are free to live somewhere else, but I doubt anyone will be welcoming your idea of "voluntaryism" with open arms.
"There is no such thing as a voluntary society" maybe, maybe not, so why don't we find out? The earth was flat, man would never go the moon, and on and on it goes. Surely you would not object to explore? In the end one is ultimately controlled by his own ideas regardless if he choose to be or not. So in that case I rather be open to new ideas and skeptical as well. I am not concerned what others will welcome, freedom has never been welcomed by the powers that be... We are free to disagree:-)
The "capitalism aspect" is the essence of the argument here.
You claim that fascism is socialism re-branded. That is incorrect.
Fascism is much more closely related to classic liberalism (and because this was the pre-dominant ideology of american industrialists they adored Mussolini, and supported Franco and Hitler) than it is related to socialism.
Classical liberalism (what we today call conservatism) gave birth to fascism and also happens to be closely related to libertarianism....
"employing classical liberal economic policies (not socialism.)" this is simply not true, they employed the anti- classical liberal economics. As all classical liberal economics are anti- tyranny in ALL forms, including the many you mentioned in order to confuse the free:-) Truth is very interesting, funny how those who deny it are then controlled by it, but in other forms, usually in ways they can not see, and even if they do it is usually too late..., their life is gone, wasted...
"They employed anti-classical liberal economic policies."
That's true. Also true is my statement that they employed plenty of policies that can be classified as classical liberal- privatization, "free" trade, reduction of taxes, elements of laissez faire schemes, ect ect. to appeal to American and other western investors.
American industrialists were not about to invest capital in a socialist country.
But fascism was something the classical liberals could feel good about investing in.
No they employed socialist interventionism. Like today's the 19,000 pages of NAFTA: are not free trade they are 19,000 pages of political pays off for interventionists that 'hide' under slogans of free trade, as there is nothing free about those agreements interesting the left (Gore and Clinton) went right along with selling those little people out with selling their jobs to other countries. Today's intellectuals are the toilet paper for the elite.
The classical liberal american industrialists also intervened in the economy. Does that mean they were socialists?
No. They hated socialism. That weren't married to the concept of laissez faire for all every minute of the day.
I find it difficult to believe that fascism in europe would have ever taken hold if not for the support of american industrialists (the main proponents of classical liberalism.)
No that is not true. Interventionism which is crony capitalism is what you speak of and that is exactly opposite of Classical econ. That is in fact some offshoot of socialism as we have the German pattern. Perhaps people like you should consider not being controlled by an idea, an idea that is not true. Why not read Mises and then approach to find what is true and not what pushes someone's agenda? Gov only steals property from those who can't defend it, and that is not the rich it is the poor
Only in Dave's distopian dream world are there communists and socialists in Washington.
Debasing the meaning of words (by calling corporate fascism "socialism" for instance) is an effective way of confusing, bewildering, disorienting, and be-fuddling people.
Strip away a persons ability to speak and understand and you create a lemming.
The question is; why is Ridley trying to disorient his audience with a truly confounding and irresponsible use of language?
This has been his game from the beginning, and the biggest problem I have with his videos. His language is dishonest, and in turn twist and warp his arguments.
"Debasing the meaning of words (by calling corporate fascism "socialism" for instance" not true. You can disagree and just live in ignorance as what is, is.
For people to understand and comprehend what is and what has been (so they can hope to better control what will be) they need to be able to communicate meaningfully.
When war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength words become void of meaning,,, communication impossible.
To pretend that there are communists in Washington is either a poor attempt at ironic humor, or it is doublespeak meant to confuse people by debasing the meaning of words.
That is really good news considering that I am moving there soon in the next 5-6 months and am going the sovereign route via letter of notice and intent to Barry o' bama the Irish lad and his whole cabinet including state reps and the sheriff too. Going to get back my allodial land title and travel in my vessel on the road way with out needing a license Am going to buy my car with gold or silver so I get my manufactures certificate of origin so when a cop stops me I am not trespassing.
Good luck with that route. I doubt it will make any difference to the cops. I understand where you're coming from but I had friends in the Republic of Texas who lost everything and went to jail for tax evasion. Who cares if it's right or wrong? They will still throw you in jail. Robert Kesterson was the Secretary of State in the Republic of Texas. I guarantee he was better at paperwork than you. Did that keep him out of jail? Nope. Good luck. Seriously.
UN has alot to do with our law making I have been discovering. Look at fucked up laws that violate the constitution and you'll find the UN in it some how.
Our only hope to restore liberty is to bring the power back to our individual countries where things are more manageable. A landmass the size of these so-called "united states" cant possibly be governed as one single country without epic failure.
'Value is supposed to come from an individuals labor input, not the consumers' marginal analyses. Capitalists are exploiting workers by selling the products produced by those workers back to them at prices greater than what they received for actually making the product. Markets Bad, Syndicates good. BAAAAAWW.'
No, it is exactly how it works. We only need to educate the uneducated masses like you. The problem is too many people have no idea about how the system of government was designed. We dont have a shot at liberty with people like you who think all the power is in the Federal Level. Its not. The power is in the states and once we educate people then the voting will turn the corner. Please study your history and civics. Please read something.
Why do the states have Supreme Court Systems independent from the federal government according to their own Constitutions? Why do the state have representative government independent from the federal government? its because we are independent states. the Federal Government only has the power to protect us from foreign invasion and engaging in trade wars between other states.
This is much more important than whatever symbolic enforcement power it may have, because the idea - to free the citizens of the state from an over-arching, omniprescient central authority - represents the only peaceable means by which an oppressed citizenry can fight back against the machine. I can't imagine a situation that would keep a single NH free-stater, quote-unquote, from showing up at the appointed time and place to support this in the most vociferous manner possible. Break a leg.
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usrevolution2 1 year ago
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usrevolution2 1 year ago
New Hampshire is where its at. I live in Washington State and it sucks so damn bad. I cant wait to get out of this god for saken dumbass state. New Hampshire, here I come
Vorash2002 1 year ago
much support from California! State Sovereignty! the centralization of power in this country must be reversed
aSuperbadassninja 2 years ago
new hamsphire lol
pete5668 2 years ago
@pete5668 I live in NH and it sucks balls. Thank god for being so close to Mass!
On the same note, I think it's so funny that these people move to NH to avoid income tax (as they hate the fed) yet they work in Mass because there's no jobs in NH, and thus end up paying Mass income tax plus the high NH property tax.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
i was laughing at the spelling of new hampshire in the title
pete5668 2 years ago
We should kick these fucking nuts out before they crash more planes into federal offices.
Craydon 2 years ago
@Craydon
yes we must try to kick everyone in the white house out for what they have done, too bad it will never happen, only way is to burn it down with them trapped in it.
TheTrueJBV3737 2 years ago
@TheTrueJBV3737 Actually I meant out of the union, I like most of the guys in the white house right now, and even if I didn't only morons think they'd be better off without government institutions working to protect them, think the military.
Craydon 2 years ago
@Craydon
HA stupid lamb, wake the fuck up.
TheTrueJBV3737 2 years ago
@TheTrueJBV3737 To what? What's the conspiracy this time?
Craydon 2 years ago
Are you thinking that hellsunicorn and I should date? I mean - he is sort of flirting with me
SSILENTNATION 2 years ago
youtube... if you bleong to disney with a record of censoring people's opinions, then can you(tube) say so? so we(the people) won't waste our time by stating opinions that the company that youtube belongs to(google) will censor. WE (the people) thought that at one time the internet was free(at least in opinion).
not so much anymore.... we all know that eventually every independent body sells itself out eventually, but this is rediculous.
smellyfooty 2 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about? Websites aren't free, they're owned by people and companies, and those websites set their own rules for conduct.
Grow the fuck up.
p00lman 2 years ago
Excellent movement - It would behoove EVERY state to start a states rights movement. very American , very Constitutional. Did you know grade schools teach states rights are not as important (or necessary) as Federal laws?? I've seen it with my own eyes. Very disturbing to see.
lenny380 2 years ago 2
Dude lets smoke a doobie and go topless open carry !!!!!! free keene.hippie from the pot head ex hippie's and their kids..... hey can i borrow your gun the gun store didn't accept my food stamps ........
seldomseeeen 2 years ago
Don't bother, he'll just take it as some weird victory, he's just looking to get a rise out of you. Don't respond to him, don't acknowledge his existence, just thumb down his inane comments and move along. Eventually he'll get bored and find some other channel to troll.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
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Not me buddy...been doing this for quite awhile now and I'm not going anywhere...third party non acknowledgement or not. The thumbs down keep me coming back for more....because it is a sign that I am driving at least 5 to 10 people nutty enough to even bother clicking such a stupid thing.
SSILENTNATION 2 years ago
You know, you could be focusing that energy into personality modification, in time you might actually be able to get a women, or a man, or whatever species floats your boat. Just a thought.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago 2
"Don't respond to him, don't acknowledge his existence"...Do as I say but not as I do? LOL. Your reply is lame and way overused - at least my sarcasm is original - come on challenge me with some real witticisms - like Rosie the Riveter says...YOU CAN DO IT!
SSILENTNATION 2 years ago
States want their rights ... well where's the state that wants to stop TAKING rights from it's residents?
I would be more interested in a state that actually intends to give back rights to property owners and all individuals, rather than play tug of war with the fed over who gets to control the serfs.
conspiracy777 2 years ago
CredoVeritas 2 years ago
Ridley, Did NH pass a "made in NH" gun bill similar to the one we passed in Montana?
freeMontana 2 years ago
no but i think one may be going to committee with a more robust approach.
RidleyReport 2 years ago
SC house passed a sovereignty bill, went to the Senate, Senate passed but changed it, then last week it went back to the SC house and they passed but changed it, now it goes back to the SC Senate. I think it will pass and get signed this month!
33ItHappens 2 years ago
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HYPOCRITE
SSILENTNATION 2 years ago
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That is....ofitsownweight...and his pathetic attempt at censorship on a FREE website...lol - fascist!.
SSILENTNATION 2 years ago
Youtube itself is a free website, yet practices massive amounts of censorship on it's own terms.
AreThereNoMoreNames 2 years ago 4
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Yes - but is youtube shouting around that other people are fascists when they themselves are censored? No. They are not - but genius ofitsownweight would be the first to hand out kleenex boxes if someone wanted him "banned". These people want to disembowel a youtube "troll" - yet sing Xmas carols to shitheads in prison.
SSILENTNATION 2 years ago
No state is united anymore! we are tax slaves now from the Voluntary Servitude by Deception Amendment 14! go look into it! you have a SS# don't you?
mattandpatti222 2 years ago 3
" communists in Washington" this is incorrect they are fascists, a different type of socialism the: American version. Regular talking heads, daily press... that cultivate stupidity and harvest ignorance use that "communist talk" as well, because it divides the people: perhaps collectivists would be better? not sure, D.C. = economic socialist fascist imperialism... I guess would be more exact..... something to describe foe... just be better, not sure what. Good vid though, liked very much:-)
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
the feds remind me more of the old Yugocommies than anything else. Not as bad as Soviets....while in power.
RidleyReport 2 years ago
I hear you Dave, not sure, I have no direct experience with the Yugocommies. If an advantage is for us to 'name it' then perhaps we all should consider what the best name of the elimination of freedom is, i.e. that gains us the most support then we all (have better choice) can incorporate it... perhaps it needs to appeal more to emotions than to logic :-) In Freedom
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
"communists in Washington."
There are no communists in Washington. There are no socialists in Washington (except maybe Bernie Sanders.)
But I would agree with you that the halls of congress, the white house, and the courts are chock-full of corporate fascists.
The Business Party rules. To confuse the ideology of the Business Party with communism or socialism is either an egregious error or calculated Orwellian doublespeak.
fczwartek 2 years ago
That's the free stater movement for you. They change language to fit their agenda, like every time they accuse government of "taking away their freedoms." Nothing has changed when it comes to freedoms. What they mean is "the government is taxing us, and we think taxation is wrong." But they're too fucking dishonest to phrase it that way.
p00lman 2 years ago
taxes = theft or looting is that direct enough for you?
You are a slave to the power that be(s), and I may add you are a "good slave" in giving up ALL your freedom,= civil liberty +as well as economic.... In fact I can think of no better drone for state run society then perhaps you. In Freedom,
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
No, see, that's why we have a word for "taxes," which are legal, and "theft," which is illegal.
p00lman 2 years ago
True the atrocities of man have always used your legal argument. Taxes are suppose to provide service/products at the barrel of a gun, which we all know is wrong, but when we paint it up as "legal" we can get the lower thinking slaves to accept it. If this is not true why does the legal establishment fear making it truly voluntary? I'd happily & freely pay for 'good' services of accountability. The fact that establishment use(s) a gun it hides under the pretense of 'legal' = proof of Truth.
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
See article one, section 8 of the Constitution.
If you don't think the Constitution is a valid legal document, then what the fuck do you expect to hold society together?
p00lman 2 years ago
They have thrown away the constitution for some time now and yes you are correct the state run society will collapse for the same reason the soviet one did, besides they don't "obey" so why should it not? But Soceity is separate from state, society X # of individuals will get along much better without the state, so there is hope. The same thing that held individuals together before the constitution.
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about?
Really? Society will hold itself together? I wonder how it's going to do that wihtout state-run jails to hold all the murderers, rapists, and thieves. Good luck with that.
p00lman 2 years ago
Most of the people in the U.S. state run concentration camps (prisons by your terms) are in fact there for non violent reasons. Their Masters did not approve of their behavior, so they used your 'legal' argument to drag the slave to the state re-education camps where they label the word rehabilitate on them, after they are raped, fed food that gives parasites etc & if they promise to be a 'good slave' they are then released back to the animal farms for humans called the U.S.A.
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
Really? So there are no murderers in the United States? So if we closed every prison, society would be completely functional?
You're completely fucked up.
p00lman 2 years ago
What 85%+ are non violent crimes. So by definition it is you who live un conscience aware of what is, is. You'd rather not see the tyranny around you and live a callous life as it is easier for such to do so, but there is no return as well. Criminals are played up for the purpose of the state's agenda. It works very well with minds like yours. You are an easy slave to control. The state gives you the idea and the idea itself enslaves you without you even knowing or ever being self aware of
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
There is no such word as "un conscience."
You still didn't answer my question. If we closed every prison, would society function perfectly well? There would be no murders at all?
p00lman 2 years ago
Thank you very much for the correction, it is true and perhaps their is hope for even you, as you must have some consciousness to see that :-) What you are really asking is is keeping the current prison system worth the next crime to humanity stage of man? With only 15% of the crimes being violent I say no the prisons on average are hurting man more than helping him. Beside if everyone was armed then surely the violent crimes would be closer to 0 and there would be no need for prisons at all.
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
Yeah, you might want to actually read history sometime and see what came of an armed society.
p00lman 2 years ago
the income tax actually is illegal. there is no law that says you have to pay income taxes on wages. Income is defined as corporate gains. But the IRS doesn't care about the law and neither do the courts. You have to pay your taxes! Who knows what would happen if the U.S. Government didn't continue making minimal payments, paying the interest and not the principle?!
Pazrayna 2 years ago
"corporate fascists" are a form of socialists(derivative off shoot), so your statement is in contradiction, study your Mises :-)
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
Apparently you are one of the confused.
Mussolini created the word fascism and defined it to mean "the merger of state and corporate power." Corporations are organizations created to concentrate and accumulate massive amounts private capital.
Communism is essentially the abolition of private capital.
They are not the same thing. They are not even derivative off shoots of one another, in fact they are at opposite ends of the spectrum of economic ideologies.
fczwartek 2 years ago
"Fascism was not as its advocates boasted an original product of the Italian mind. It began with a split in the ranks of Marxian socialism, which certainly was an imported doctrine. Its econ programme was borrowed from German non-Marixian socialism & its agressiveness likewise copied from Germans the All-deutsche or Pan-German forerunners of the Nazis. Its conduct of gov affairs was a replica of Lenin's dictatorship. Corporativism its much advertised ideological adornment was of British origin
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
An impressive and convenient bit of revisionist history!
The Italian socialists kicked Mussolini out of the party because they realized he was nothing more than an opportunist.
Mussolini even claimed that "socialism was dead."
Why would he try to resurrect a dead ideology, and give it a new name as Von Mises claims?
fczwartek 2 years ago
No, it is truth making its way.
From the dust heap of discarded socialist utopias, the Fascist scholars salvaged the scheme of guild socialism. Guild socialism was very popular with British socialists in the last yrs of first world war & 1st yrs following Armistice. It was so impracticable that it disappeared very soon from socialist literature. It was almost forgotten when the Fascists attached it to a new label & the flamboyantly proclaimed corporativism as the new social panacea.
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
You can copy wikipedia and regurgitate the libertarian convention "wisdom" verbatim. Congratulations on that.
You claim corporate fascism and communism are essentially the same thing, but you fail to explain how that is even possible when communism is the abolition of private capital, and corporatism is the glorification of it.
"when the fascists attached to it (socialism) a new label."
So you are saying Mussolini just re-labeled what he had previously called a "dead ideology."
fczwartek 2 years ago
The programme of the Fascists, as drafted in 1919 was vehemently anti-capitalistic. Most radical New Dealers & even communists could agree with it. When Fascists came to power, they had forgotten those points of their programme which referred to the liberty of thought & press& right of assembly. In this respect they were conscientious disciples of Bukharin & Lenin. Moreover they did not suppress as they promised: industrial & financial corps. Their problem was to win confidence foreign banks
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
"in 1919 the fascists were vehemently anti-capitalistic."
Mussolini and the fascists took power in 1922 by creating an alliance with industrialists and capitalists and employing classical liberal economic policies (not socialism.)
So to claim that they were vehemently anti-capitalistic is false.
American capitalists loved Mussolini, and supported other fascists like Franco and even Hitler.
Mussolini's Fascist Manifesto was a very progressive document, but he ignored it when he took power.
fczwartek 2 years ago
Right and that is why "Their problem was to win the confidence of foreign banks " they added what they needed, their country was desperate for capital... Good to see you are reading your Mises:-)
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
"their problem was to win the confidence of foreign banks."
The reason foreign capitalists loved Mussolini was because he was not a socialist. They didn't care if he was a dictator, in fact they probably encouraged that. As long as he wasn't a socialist.
fczwartek 2 years ago
Interesting you keep focusing on capitalism aspect when there are many others as well. Why not focus on the one thing that they "all" have in common, the gun in the room, that no one wants to see or admit. IF these systems are so great why do they ALL rely on the force to prove their point? why not voluntary exchange by the people? Interesting isn't not? I don't want to be part of your Statist religion, so am I free to not be part? No, Am I free to volunteer to not volunteer? No I am Not.
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
There is no such thing as a voluntary society.
We should strive to make our own civilization more democratic and egalitarian, but at the same time I am a realist and I don't believe utopia is achievable.
All civilizations regardless of ideology have force as a common denominator.
You are free to live somewhere else, but I doubt anyone will be welcoming your idea of "voluntaryism" with open arms.
fczwartek 2 years ago
"There is no such thing as a voluntary society" maybe, maybe not, so why don't we find out? The earth was flat, man would never go the moon, and on and on it goes. Surely you would not object to explore? In the end one is ultimately controlled by his own ideas regardless if he choose to be or not. So in that case I rather be open to new ideas and skeptical as well. I am not concerned what others will welcome, freedom has never been welcomed by the powers that be... We are free to disagree:-)
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
The "capitalism aspect" is the essence of the argument here.
You claim that fascism is socialism re-branded. That is incorrect.
Fascism is much more closely related to classic liberalism (and because this was the pre-dominant ideology of american industrialists they adored Mussolini, and supported Franco and Hitler) than it is related to socialism.
Classical liberalism (what we today call conservatism) gave birth to fascism and also happens to be closely related to libertarianism....
fczwartek 2 years ago
As you as you live in a society, you have to pay taxes and not murder people. That's how it goes, fuckface.
p00lman 2 years ago
"employing classical liberal economic policies (not socialism.)" this is simply not true, they employed the anti- classical liberal economics. As all classical liberal economics are anti- tyranny in ALL forms, including the many you mentioned in order to confuse the free:-) Truth is very interesting, funny how those who deny it are then controlled by it, but in other forms, usually in ways they can not see, and even if they do it is usually too late..., their life is gone, wasted...
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
"They employed anti-classical liberal economic policies."
That's true. Also true is my statement that they employed plenty of policies that can be classified as classical liberal- privatization, "free" trade, reduction of taxes, elements of laissez faire schemes, ect ect. to appeal to American and other western investors.
American industrialists were not about to invest capital in a socialist country.
But fascism was something the classical liberals could feel good about investing in.
fczwartek 2 years ago
No they employed socialist interventionism. Like today's the 19,000 pages of NAFTA: are not free trade they are 19,000 pages of political pays off for interventionists that 'hide' under slogans of free trade, as there is nothing free about those agreements interesting the left (Gore and Clinton) went right along with selling those little people out with selling their jobs to other countries. Today's intellectuals are the toilet paper for the elite.
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
"Interesting the left (Gore and Clinton) went along...."
Your conception of the political spectrum is seriously flawed if you think Gore and Clinton represent "the left."
There is one party in this country; the Business Party. It is split into two factions we call democrats and republicans.
The Business Party represents the center right to the extreme right. Only a handful of politicians can be classified as "left" (Kucinich).
Clinton, Gore and Obama are moderate versions of Bush.
fczwartek 2 years ago
"the fascists employed socialist intervention."
The classical liberal american industrialists also intervened in the economy. Does that mean they were socialists?
No. They hated socialism. That weren't married to the concept of laissez faire for all every minute of the day.
I find it difficult to believe that fascism in europe would have ever taken hold if not for the support of american industrialists (the main proponents of classical liberalism.)
fczwartek 2 years ago
* But they weren't married to the concept of laissez fair for all every minute of the day.
fczwartek 2 years ago
@LibertyJedi Correction, "classical liberal economics" are about protecting the private property of the rich from the needs of the poor.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
No that is not true. Interventionism which is crony capitalism is what you speak of and that is exactly opposite of Classical econ. That is in fact some offshoot of socialism as we have the German pattern. Perhaps people like you should consider not being controlled by an idea, an idea that is not true. Why not read Mises and then approach to find what is true and not what pushes someone's agenda? Gov only steals property from those who can't defend it, and that is not the rich it is the poor
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
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Never gonna happen.
p00lman 2 years ago
We just had a resolution hearing a few weeks in RI!
RIHeron76 2 years ago
> The people of this state have the soul and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free sovereign and independent state [...]
Translation: We don't want people in D.C. robbing and fucking with people living in the geographic region of New Hampshire, we want that job.
TehBANN3D 2 years ago
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"We have to be able to face our communists in Washington."
So which people in Washington are communists, Dave McCarthy?
p00lman 2 years ago
All of them. The ones that promote the fake "rights of the state" over the natural rights of the individual in the name of the collective.
HHODork 2 years ago
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Everyone in Washington is a communist? Wow, that's interesting. Tell me more.
p00lman 2 years ago
If I were a McCarthyite I would have banned you rather than welcoming your dissent, pool.
RidleyReport 2 years ago
"communists in Washington"
Only in Dave's distopian dream world are there communists and socialists in Washington.
Debasing the meaning of words (by calling corporate fascism "socialism" for instance) is an effective way of confusing, bewildering, disorienting, and be-fuddling people.
Strip away a persons ability to speak and understand and you create a lemming.
The question is; why is Ridley trying to disorient his audience with a truly confounding and irresponsible use of language?
fczwartek 2 years ago
This has been his game from the beginning, and the biggest problem I have with his videos. His language is dishonest, and in turn twist and warp his arguments.
p00lman 2 years ago
"Debasing the meaning of words (by calling corporate fascism "socialism" for instance" not true. You can disagree and just live in ignorance as what is, is.
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
For people to understand and comprehend what is and what has been (so they can hope to better control what will be) they need to be able to communicate meaningfully.
When war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength words become void of meaning,,, communication impossible.
To pretend that there are communists in Washington is either a poor attempt at ironic humor, or it is doublespeak meant to confuse people by debasing the meaning of words.
fczwartek 2 years ago
@fcwartek
Stop defending socialism.
You are like the foolish slave debating about what to call the chains that bind them.
underdogmilitia 2 years ago
"a foolish slave debating about what to call your chains."
You have to have a clear idea about the chains that are binding you if you ever want to figure out how to break them.
Ignorance is not strength.
fczwartek 2 years ago
Patrick Henry made his famous stand for liberty on March 23 1775, now it's Rand Paul's turn with his next moneybomb !
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phchartrand 2 years ago
That is really good news considering that I am moving there soon in the next 5-6 months and am going the sovereign route via letter of notice and intent to Barry o' bama the Irish lad and his whole cabinet including state reps and the sheriff too. Going to get back my allodial land title and travel in my vessel on the road way with out needing a license Am going to buy my car with gold or silver so I get my manufactures certificate of origin so when a cop stops me I am not trespassing.
deathmarch5 2 years ago
Good luck with that route. I doubt it will make any difference to the cops. I understand where you're coming from but I had friends in the Republic of Texas who lost everything and went to jail for tax evasion. Who cares if it's right or wrong? They will still throw you in jail. Robert Kesterson was the Secretary of State in the Republic of Texas. I guarantee he was better at paperwork than you. Did that keep him out of jail? Nope. Good luck. Seriously.
remember04191775 2 years ago
UN has alot to do with our law making I have been discovering. Look at fucked up laws that violate the constitution and you'll find the UN in it some how.
x11115 2 years ago
Such as . . .?
p00lman 2 years ago
Our only hope to restore liberty is to bring the power back to our individual countries where things are more manageable. A landmass the size of these so-called "united states" cant possibly be governed as one single country without epic failure.
803honda 2 years ago
@803honda You should study anarcho-syndicalist philosophy to understand why capitalism in itself steals liberty away from individuals.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
'Value is supposed to come from an individuals labor input, not the consumers' marginal analyses. Capitalists are exploiting workers by selling the products produced by those workers back to them at prices greater than what they received for actually making the product. Markets Bad, Syndicates good. BAAAAAWW.'
Aw, poor commie.
TehBANN3D 2 years ago
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"Bring the power back to our individual countries."
Um, and which individual countries are those that one had power but no longer do?
p00lman 2 years ago
Its the states, each state has its own Constitution, its own body of government. We are not "The United States", we are "These United States".
HHODork 2 years ago
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Not how it works. Sorry, Charlie.
p00lman 2 years ago
No, it is exactly how it works. We only need to educate the uneducated masses like you. The problem is too many people have no idea about how the system of government was designed. We dont have a shot at liberty with people like you who think all the power is in the Federal Level. Its not. The power is in the states and once we educate people then the voting will turn the corner. Please study your history and civics. Please read something.
HHODork 2 years ago
Why do the states have Supreme Court Systems independent from the federal government according to their own Constitutions? Why do the state have representative government independent from the federal government? its because we are independent states. the Federal Government only has the power to protect us from foreign invasion and engaging in trade wars between other states.
HHODork 2 years ago
This is much more important than whatever symbolic enforcement power it may have, because the idea - to free the citizens of the state from an over-arching, omniprescient central authority - represents the only peaceable means by which an oppressed citizenry can fight back against the machine. I can't imagine a situation that would keep a single NH free-stater, quote-unquote, from showing up at the appointed time and place to support this in the most vociferous manner possible. Break a leg.
slewofdamascus 2 years ago