The Mind of a Visual Thinker: Photo-Realistic Images

[glennirish]

thinking in words seems very strange to me

[ScottieDM]

How odd it is that someone who has zero ability with visual thinking, is considered normal.

[ninjatoothpaste]

I get sound sensitivity too, not all the time though, I think it has to do with my vestibular damage.

[DmitriSochlioukov]

its not autistic, but artistic

[nachoijp]

for a moment I wished I was autistic... it sounds awesome to think with images :D

[DrHerccoel]

@RightfullyReticent Please stick your head in a sewage pipe and take some deep breaths, or lick a dirty rat, or eat some lead. Whatever method you prefer for killing yourself. Go ahead and ignore me, I've said what I needed. Quite a handy little thing the ignore button is. Too bad you don't have it when you go to school and get bullied by the normal functioning person for being a scrawny 16 vegan crybaby, who thinks the world is out to kill him. Inb4 you shoot up your school.

[MrGazmcfaz]

well said VTEC person :D its almost certainly a genetic difference, not a disorder like some people say. How come albert einstein didn't speak fluently until he was nine yet went onto become one of the greatest minds ever recorded? Aspergers and autism mean our way of thinking is unusual, but we're not crazy, we have talents in places other people don't. Stop trying to make us all the same!

[DrHerccoel]

@MrGazmcfaz Excuses. We cannot trust you, after CWC you all are insane, pokemon collecting, blowup doll fucking losers who masturbate to poorly drawn pictures of sonic. Please kill yourself, it would be the only intelligent thing you've done in your life.

[DrHerccoel]

@MrGazmcfaz Also albert einstein had ADHD not autism. But feel free to build a time machine and prove me wrong.

[yorylein]

Interesting !

[SuperAlexrios]

people are getting stupider due to the visual teaching visual learning makes the brain lazy therefore

[oycmad]

I Loved to hear how she put so many some many connections together. And get people to think differently.

[whiterottenrabbit]

I'd like to bring up a topic, which is bugging me for years: the usage of wrong aspect ratios in still images and videos; the picture becomes squeezed or squashed. Some people don't care, if they see an oval Moon or unnaturally stretched faces; some people (such as myself) are bothered by wrong aspect ratio. However, there are also people who fail to realize that a picture has a wrong aspect ratio, even if it should be obvious. What do you think of this phenomenon?

[DrHerccoel]

@whiterottenrabbit I think that's stupid. Instead of being bothered by it, just mock the idiots who can't properly edit video.

[whiterottenrabbit]

@DrHerccoel

I reckon you have plenty of time, so if you'd bother to look for some of my comments here on youtube, you'd see that almost everytime when I comment on a video with wrong AR, I do mock the idiots that can't edit videos properly. This time I used a differnet approach and could never imagine to encounter such a salutary and astonishing comment as yours, good Sir!

[VTECsqznN2O]

I think its hilarious, personally, that people think vaccines cause people like me. When there have clearly been people in history, before vaccines that displayed these traits.

What I don't find funny, but sick actually is people trying to prevent mild austim...god forbid your kid is born less than "perfect" and you'll have to deal with a child that is not neurotypical. I find it sad, that I can be brilliant in many things, and parents don't want kids like me, or like Temple here, to be born.

[DrHerccoel]

@VTECsqznN2O Oh boo fucking hoo. Oh no people don't want retarded children, WHAT A HUGE FUCKING SURPRISE!!! Seriously aspie, go back to your hugbox. If my child was born with autism, I would put them out of their suffering, instead of cruelly forcing them to live a life with an intellect equivalent with that of a dog. You are a cruel and sick person for thinking people should be forced to live with this. But really I can't blame you, you're retarded and can't actually understand the subject.

[lFlash4]

@VTECsqznN2O well i'd be happier if i didn't have add and ocd; u're just being a rebel it obviously makes life harder

[VTECsqznN2O]

@lFlash4 that makes no sense....autism has made my SOCIAL life as a KID harder, but its made the rest of life a breeze...people think being social is the end all of human life. I learned to be social, just like I learned anything else...so in the end, I have gifts, AND learned how to be "normal". I don't see how my life is harder.

[lFlash4]

@VTECsqznN2O you sound like somebody whose trying to make light of the fact that they are an amputee. It could bring some benefits but ultimately they would very much like their arm back; even if they wouldn't trade back the experiences. This is a way to give people an arm; and you think it's wrong because you can't swallow your pride and see that although being autistic can help in many ways it is also disabling. I don't mean to be a dick but we all have weaknesses; stop pretending you don't.

[VTECsqznN2O]

@lFlash4 and your weakness is your blind faith in your religion, which right away discredits you as intelligent enough to be talking to, since we aren't "being dicks" and all. I am a woman btw, so you can stop your male pissing match.

Aspergers is NOT a disability. Its a difference. I never said I didn't have any weaknesses, but I think being that I can function WAY better than alot of "normal" people, in almost every context (including social ones) I don't see your point. Go away troll.

[lFlash4]

@VTECsqznN2O I'm not trolling and didn't ask, nor do i care that you're a woman. Also, when did I say anything even related to religion? I'm just a humanist.

I've recovered from OCD, ADD and a whole lot of hardheadedness(which i think is a psychological condition in its own right.). Please don't be a bigot here, i'm not trying to troll you, piss you off or even argue for that matter.

All i'd like to do is instill in you some self constructive open mindedness. :)

[VTECsqznN2O]

@lFlash4 telling me that I am defective and in "denial" about being defective is niether helpful nor making me "open minded" I suggest you rethink your approach as I found your post bullying and offensive. This will be my last reply. Good day.

[Gargantupimp]

@VTECsqznN2O @lFlash4 This is why we need proper enforced eugenics, the only way to improve ourselves as a individual or as a species is through our genes. Eventually all religion will be phased out when we humans become advanced enough genetically to become intelligent enough to discard all the unnecessary flawed aspects of society, such as religion.

[VTECsqznN2O]

@Gargantupimp well said. :)

[lFlash4]

@Gargantupimp Nobody is talking about religion. lol I didn't mean that you're defective but that you, like all of us, have weaknesses which we can strengthen! Why would you turn away from that? Eugenics would help, but we don't necessarily need them. We have neurofeedback; we can train the brain to act differently, and make new neuronal connections. I know, I just got back from a session 10 minutes ago. There is no need for psychological drugs anymore. Let it in and it will only make you better.

[nags2bitches]

@lFlash4 Do you even know what eugenics is ? And who says A.S. is a defect ?

[lFlash4]

@nags2bitches Genetic engineering....

It's a psychological condition, first step is acceptance....

[nags2bitches]

@lFlash4 No it isn't genetic engineering, its the identification of certain individuals as being inferior & the identification of others as superior with the intention of allowing only the superior to reproduce . It involves enforced abortion & sterilisation of those deemed to be imperfect . Since the classification of what is perfect & what is defective is entirely down to personal taste (or racial taste or the societal norm) then its obviously inherantly flawed and detrimental to evolution.

[lFlash4]

@nags2bitches sry, you were right on that one. But isn't that still a bad way to push forward society? I mean we as humans are very elastic beings, we have made leaps in neuroscience in the past 30 years and with new technology we can even elevate IQ. Again, I didn't mean to say that you're condition is a defect, im sure it gives you strengths that others would dream of. But by the same token im sure you have weaknesses you wouldn't mind relinquishing. We all have "conditions" like this.

[nags2bitches]

@lFlash4 I don't know about others with AS but my own weaknesses as you call them are only problems due to the western society i was born in; heightened visual awareness & sensitive hearing are irritating when in a supermarket but would make me & mine far more likely to survive if all the supermarkets suddenly vanished in an apocalyptic style disaster. One generations weakness is another generations survival tool; removing them would be foolish.

[lFlash4]

@nags2bitches To say that those things are your only weaknesses is just prideful. Those aren't even weaknesses. You're saying there is nothing in life that has been hard? You're completely perfect? Sorry for trying to get you to see that we're all flawed, but still have the power to change. Apparently there are people like you who are perfect and the rest of us can't change ourselves to be better. Ironic, that thinking is so conservative you'll never change to become better thinking like that.

[nags2bitches]

@lFlash4 Did I say they were my ONLY weaknesses or was I simply using them as EXAMPLES ? Did I say I was perfect or did I simply point out that perfection is something entirely subjective & which changes from aeon to aeon ? Are you jumping to erroneous conclusions ? Are you being assumptive ? Do you imagine that I would want to trade in my autism for the transient pleasantry of being able to have 'friends' amongst the Zombie nation that surrounds me ? I prefer to be alive, awake & flawed thanks

[lFlash4]

@nags2bitches So hypothetically, if I say no to all of those... =]

[nunctecognovi]

@VTECsqznN2O Those kind of parents are a disgrace for every kind of child, neurotypical and not.

[ninjatoothpaste]

@VTECsqznN2O I have an autistic nephew, I find it challenging but interesting trying to work out how he thinks, sometimes he can cry as though something truly terrible is happening to him; an example is when his mum was writing words on paper and asking him to read them and he just bawled his eyes out, I picked up some chalk and wrote on the blackboard in my kitchen and he read it without crying but unenthusiastically, so I wrote different words and he was laughing and happy and reading.

[ninjatoothpaste]

@VTECsqznN2O I have to try and see things from his perspective and although he can talk he rarely does so I have to think of how to explain things in a visual way as much as possible - he's about 4 years old now but behaves more like age 2, he couldn't grasp how to play the bowling Wii Sports for 2 days in a row, he simple made no progress no matter how many times my parents and sister attempted to teach him, but I managed to teach him to play it in 15 minutes.

[Lunartechno]

@VTECsqznN2O its been established that there is a direct link between autism and increased rate of vaccinations. And there is a direct link between vaccine taking and infant mortality rates. That's been a big deal in the news as well.

[VTECsqznN2O]

@Lunartechno no, the link is NOW, now that kids are getting TOO MANY vaccines, all with much more mercury than before. I was NOT pumped full of mercury and 20+ vaccines, anyone born before 1990 or so was not over vaccinated...so I'm sorry, I don't believe that vaccines are the cause of autism. I think genes are the cause of autism, perhaps our "enviroment" is triggering som'thing that is dormant in most people. But I am still of the belief that most of us are born this way. :) :)

[Lunartechno]

@VTECsqznN2O i still disagree

[RyumitsuHayabusa]

@Lunartechno No, the idea of a link has been disproven as a sham, and the individual behind the "studies" ,whom I shall not name, was exposed and discredited for having fabricated those false claims. Please don't potentiate this farce.

[Lunartechno]

@RyumitsuHayabusa I'm sorry but one day you will realize that its not as mysterious as you wish it to be. There is a proven link between autism and vaccines.. And its not just chemicals in vaccines but it comes from our diet.. And it causes a reaction in our genes.. I'm sorry but you shouldn't trust the people who discredit people wiht legitimate concerns about the problem of autism and the vaccine line. No offense to you., but you need to develope more understanding on this correlation.

[RyumitsuHayabusa]

That autism/vaccine farce is over 13 years old already, and it was followed by a deluge of new studies and information that have found NO link whatsoever.

MANY MANY new studies. NO link. Fact.

One single early study discredited. False.

Get it?

[samu141082]

I think one has to talk about the topics of that video and I am glad to say it's a great topic and it is also showed how neuro images can help understand.

I have to say great woman, great talent, great talk. Really fascinating!!

[theburninator88]

video actually starts at 5:36

[SOGN0]

@theburninator88 Thank You !!!

[bluebanshee3]

@RightfullyReticent oh---i see. you're passionately anti-vaccine. (sorry. my mind got lost in the negatives somewhere i think.) no. i don't care if you don't have vaccines. all i ask is that people research the supposed link between mercury and autism before having their children chelated, etc. that's all. (preferably they wait until they get their children's permission to do so as well.)

[bluebanshee3]

@RightfullyReticent lol. i don't know if i mind entirely since you already blocked me. :D :D

but no, i'm not anti-vaccine. just the opposite. some guy/girl named anti-vaccine (or some such is.) i'm still blue banshee. (and i'm still autistic.)

[Vierotchka]

I think you didn't watch this video since everything you posted in response to my posts has absolutely nothing to do with the contents of this video and the remarkable person Temple Grandin for whom I have the greatest respect and admiration.

[Vierotchka]

Your apples are obviously worm-eaten and rotten to the core!

[Vierotchka]

I think you are very confused. I did not comment about the video, I commented about the ludicrous assertion that a baby has painted a miniature replica of the Sistine Chapel. Get real, lady.

[Vierotchka]

I never assumed that what is in the video is impossible. I simply argued that a 14 month baby cannot possibly paint a replica of the Sistine Chapel in miniature. You really ought to work on your reading comprehension.

As for being anti-vaccine - I am all for banning vaccines altogether, there are far too many people on earth as it is.

[kevinseveneleven]

@Vierotchka that's a terrible reason, based on a faulty assumption, for being anti-vaccine.

[Vierotchka]

Actually, it is a pragmatic one. The sudden onset of the steep rise in world population and its continuation is due to vaccines - it began when vaccines became generalized. Vaccines have kept alive individuals which normally should have died very young, allowing them to live to reproduce and degrade the gene pool, too. This may sound cynical, but it is absolutely factual. Vaccines ultimately spell the end of humanity through uncontrollable over-population.

[kevinseveneleven]

You don't know how vaccines work and they're not the only scientific/medical advance that has saved young lives or "weaken the gene pool". Humans are getting bigger, stronger, smarter and living longer. The gene pool is doing fine.

The pragmatic position would be that the Earth can support MORE humans and an actual overpopulation problem will take care of itself.

[Vierotchka]

I am perfectly aware of how vaccines work. Humans in the third world are NOT getting bigger and stronger, and there is an explosion of genetic diseases all over the world because of the degradation of the human gene pool. The pragmatic position is the fact that earth cannot sustain a population as large as ours. Get your facts right, friend.

[BogMonkey53]

Vaccines kill more people than they protect. Prevention is NOT the best cure.

[Vierotchka]

@BogMonkey53 That is absolute bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about.

[BogMonkey53]

@Vierotchka no its not absolute bullshit dickbrain. My granny was nearly killed by a vaccine (not H1N1) a few months ago. The H1N1 vaccine in America alone caused 500 cases of GBS and 25 of those cases resulted in death. The common flu kills far more people each year than H1N1 and its impossible to know if H1N1 vaccine saves any lives at all. Vaccines are most likely to harm people with weak immune systems and people with weak immune systems are the only ones likely to have trouble with the flu.

[BogMonkey53]

BTW if you're talking about vaccines in relation to autism I found an interesting article which speculates that many autistic symptoms are caused by an imbalance of glutamate to glycine and that the claim that vaccines cause autism may have some truth to it considering many vaccines contain hydrolyzed gelatin a substance that happens to be composed of approximately 20% glycine. If anyone wants to read the article I'll PM the link.

[Vierotchka]

@BogMonkey53 Your grandmother is just one person, an unfortunate member of a tiny little minority. H1N1 has indeed saved a great many lives. You don't know what you are talking about, you're merely repeating a sick meme.

[BogMonkey53]

@Vierotchka any proof to backup your claim that H1N1 vaccine has saved any lives?

[DrHerccoel]

@BogMonkey53 We keep statistics on how many deaths occurred, not who survived. You cannot accurately keep track of how many people the vaccine saved. Think for a change.

[DrHerccoel]

@BogMonkey53 Vaccines don't prevent, they create an immunity. They help your body develop an immunity so that in case you do get infected, your body already knows how to fight the infection. I dunno where your getting that vaccines kill more people then they save. Seemed to work when everyone was dying of polio and once a vaccine came along people stopped dying. But of course that can't be true since vaccines kill. It must of been god or magic right?

[DrHerccoel]

@Vierotchka Well you see, that could be because of vaccines or you know the famine, war, improper shelter, exposure due to improper shelter, inadequate access to a source of clean water, and general unsanitary living conditions. Guns and famine have a nasty habit of killing people. Surprising isn't it. But it must be the evil vaccines. Why? because a 13 year old said so on the internet. I think you need to put your tin foil hat back on friend.

[Vierotchka]

@DrHerccoel You're truly genetically flawed, that's for sure. I hope that flaw includes sterility, we don't want you downgrading and polluting the human genetic pool.

[Vierotchka]

watch?v=HAReFb-UkYY

[DrHerccoel]

@Vierotchka You're really really REALLY stupid. You obviously do not know what vaccines do. They strengthen your immune system, an immunity that then passes to their children. It has absolutely no relation or effect on their genes. Diseases don't give a flying fuck if your genetically perfect, they will still kill you. Thats their whole purpose for existence, is to survive, like any other lifeform. You are confusing diseases with virus's. Seriously man this is basic junior high science.

[Vierotchka]

@DrHerccoel I know exactly what vaccines do and how they work, dearie, and I am not confusing anything, your delusions notwithstanding. Now, creep back into your little hole where you belong.

[Vierotchka]

It is pretty obvious she is lying. At 14 months, a child doesn't have the motor ability to draw, so to claim that a 14 months old child painted a miniature replica of the Sistine Chapel is just plain ludicrous, at best.

[utubekula]

I love this lady. very useful video thanks.

[bluebanshee3]

(well... it was an interesting debate. i just wish i understood what it was about....) :D

[bluebanshee3]

ps: i would never deny that someone who's autistic can paint so well. i believe i have strengths as a result of my autism---not despite it. it's why i love Ms. Grandin so much. she acknowledges the strengths, because she possesses them. many autism "experts" leave this out of the equation, instead are obsessed with finding a "cure."

[bluebanshee3]

again---i think we're having the wrong argument with the wrong people. i think you have me confused with Vierotchka, who denied that someone's autistic son could paint so well. (i am autistic. i did not mark chronodyne's comments as spam. i replied to someone who's radically anti-vaccine, whose comments were marked as spam. i'm bluebanshee---not Vierotchka. i think there is a technical glitch with the comment page.

[Vierotchka]

I never denied that someone's autistic son can paint so well. I think you're confusing me with someone else.

[Vierotchka]

chronodyne made a ludicrous statement, and never claimed that her son is autistic.

[bluebanshee3]

@RightfullyReticent hi---this was my comment, which you agreed with, i think? i think we're having the wrong argument with the wrong people, lol. i'm against the idea that mercury causes autism, because there's no evidence to support it---also, it leads to dangerous ideas of "cure."

[bluebanshee3]

@RightfullyReticent no---i didn't mark it as spam. it was already marked as spam, and i agreed. i'm upset because people are performing chelation and other potentially dangerous treatments based on that theory---but there's no supporting evidence that there is anything to it.

if you're interested in an earlier example of this, look at the way schizophrenia was once treated---it was more extreme (shock, insulin coma therapy, etc.)--but it was based on theories that had no evidence to support.

[bluebanshee3]

@RightfullyReticent ps: i LOVE Ms. Grandin. an actual autie speaking on autie issues. it doesn't get any better than that. :) :) :) (heart, heart, heart.)

[bluebanshee3]

@RightfullyReticent i'm not even sure who you are. i was responding to something by someone named "anti-vaccine," whose comment is now marked as spam.

[ihamoitc2005]

I've always said that animals are like autistic humans. GIven the similarities between humans and animals, why do we eat, breed, and trade animals for money?

[Bluefairy513]

@ihamoitc2005 Because it would be  considered wrong to eat people

[ihamoitc2005]

Wrong because of custom, not because of any scientific reason. Civilization gives us the opportunity to look past old concepts based on customs based on ancient survival needs and embrace more rational and intellectually honest thinking.

If you don't care how a pig feels when it's cut open you really shouldn't give a damn about the same happening to a human. Hey guess what, many humans don't.

[bluebanshee3]

it is spam. still i want to reply. what the @#$% does this have to do with autism? (and no--mercury does not cause it. more evidence that it's genetic.) deal with it. autism is just a different neuro-type. you can't get rid of us by being fanatically anti-vaccine.

[bluebanshee3]

oh--there's a book on understanding the unwritten rules? wow. thank you, Ms. Grandin.

[nietzsche71]

born on a blue day

[Mareksgirl]

Thank you Dr. Grandin!

[gasmbay]

i seriously think this is amazing and true.

one question then, what do the drugs they give these autistic kids do?

would it hinder their ability to think efficiently in images?!

[TKoneseventeen]

very interesting. this is awesome because i had an autistic friend in high school who would remember every single word they said about dinosaurs on the discovery channel. it was amazing the amount of info he held.

[lsj5678]

if you listen to the definiton and explanation of the spectrum--you would appreciate absolutely every word she says!!

[LaJoyT]

I am sorry but I will have to disagree with "inregionecaecorum", as a mother of a child with PDD I have to say.......

Temple is spectacular! I appreciate an articulate, intelligent person on the spectrum helping me understand what is going on in my childs head.

Very beneficial!

[Vierotchka]

What about deaf and blind autists? How do they think? In terms of touch and texture, I suppose.

[Vierotchka]

My son, not an autistic at all, drew in perspective at the age of 4.

[chronodyne]

my son painted a miniature replica of the sistine chapel at 14 months

[Vierotchka]

Riiiight! You really want us to believe that?

[katieMCbindergarten]

lol

[inregionecaecorum]

She is not anything like as visual as me :)

I am a photographer and an artist, now that IS visual :)

BTW I have met Temple she is nothing unusual or spectacular in our autistic world.

[samoht21]

absolutely fascinating.

[WinterDenim]

Interesting lady, interesting topic.