Okay, I have a question that I need help. What do you think when Thunderf00t calls out HowTheWorldWorks as a money grubbing subscriber whore and then zooming in on the donate button? Did HowTheWorldWorks needed money to get where he is at? Quality wise. The high definition to where he is at. Should I call Thunderf00t as a ebegging money grubbing eMo bunny if he is going to call out HowTheWorldWorks?
ps , I would love to see more about the "Bigfoot in the freezer" thing, do you have any links that would help?
as for e-begging well I think the term itself does not help, why not E-sponser or similar? If I as a private citizen want to send cash to someone that's my business,I have sent a youtuber an old Apple mac laptop I did not want or use & there was not a whisper heard, but for some reason sending cash seems to freak some people out,
this is why a site like kickstarter was created for people wanted to do a project they could ask for funding and give rewards for the the funding. its pretty neat.
Not only are some of us "so sceptical we won't even give someone 10 bucks, even if its for a good cause" but we will attack that person with such vial wrath, even for someone who has had a trusted name for sometime and puts out nothing but quality work. It actually makes me quite embarrassed to be associated with the "atheist community" at times. It reminds me of the puritans at the salem witch trials. Pooka, you bare the mark of a WITCH! Give me a fucking break.
Making good videos takes a lot of time. Time is money. Every hour someone spends making a video for free is an hour that could be spent making money. That's why I don't mind commercials on videos and refuse to block them. It's also why I'm not going to get upset over so called "e-begging".
I see your point about trying to do things for your subscribers. What about illuminating a partnership with youtube for the subscribers? I hate those fucking commercials! Not only that but, at work, our firewall through our service won't play the commercials, so the 5 sec thing doesn't move and I can't see the video. I can't watch the Pooka's videos or AtheistAussie's videos at work.
@SuperSoylent2 i dont allow adds on my videos for this channel for the benefit of the viewers. i do it on my other channel that deals with commercial products but this one is for people who just want to tune in and be entertained... no bs.
Since donations are, by definition, voluntary then, imo, no one has anything to complain about. I have donated money to certain sites where I thought it was in a good cause and I will continue to do so, it's my choice. I can't see why anyone would get so torqued out about it one way or the other. And I would certainly never unsubscribe from a channel I valued because of such a request, I'd just wait for their next video.
Also there are channels that routinely ask for donations which are very well worth watching, for example The Real News Network which actually posts a request for a $10 donation along with a link on each of their videos.
Policy seems to be that when people like you, you're allowed to E-beg for whatever the fuck. If public opinion is against you, you're not. YT really is like high school.
When a Youtuber 1st picks up a camera to video their say or vlog, no one bought them the gear to do so. Many gained subs cos of the content rather than the quality. I understand ppl want to buy gifts, fine. I just don't feel comfortable with YTbers asking me to pay for their stuff. I'd still watch Pooka on a gritty video because he can maintain his audience and has interesting topics. I've never seen potholler54/wildwoodclaire/aronra/dprjones and many others ebeg. just my 2 bob
Consider that if someone like you or TheTruePooka (either of you can easily expect 1000+ hits on any of your videos) did try to pull a Brett Keane, you'd be called on it immediately and would lose a sizable chunk of your subs. From what I can tell, Pook has integrity and I don't think he'd be willing to risk that.
@Astrobrant2 hell, $200 would've gotten me a ride home AND some beer. i swear if he strands me one more time... me and Stephen Hawking both are going to kick him dead in his nuts.
I couldn't help thinking of some ideas if you do more episodes, like how you might be able to cut away to the "expert," who makes authoritative comments on snipes. If you're interested, I know "someone" who might be interested in doing some use-'em-if-you-want-'em clips.
(Contd) ..the need for funding to support the people and groups that are promoting the things I agree with. Perhaps if something like the Donations button I see on some videos was on every video or channel, then that would take away the need for eBegging. It would normalise the idea of funding. I'm sure that Pooka thought long and hard about making the appeal. I didn't like hearing it, but you've given me a different angle to asses it by. Cheers.
Excellent point about funding. Mr. Deity spends about a third of his videos trying to raise money. Nobody seems to mind. But he's selling a product. Had that crew shown up years ago saying "We'll make some very funny videos if you buy us the equipment.'' they would get the same reaction from me: Build it and they'll come. That's where I see the line between donating and investing. Investors get a return. Beyond getting to watch the videos.
That said, I totally get the point about... (Contd)
the only thing I see thats wrong with it is proof of purchase, would there be a cut off when donations reach a certain limit? its reassuring to see someone, maybe a youtube partner, if they're asking for funds to may show the item and receipt to the donators. That way the one asking for donations isn't accused and within what could be classed as charitable means. But brett keane can go play his PS3 in guilt. The thieving nomad cock nose that he is.
@V00D00SIXXX I can see the quality in videos compared to brett keane, his video quality is still crap. Yours are quite sharp and you sometimes change scene i.e the recent snipe vids with SnowWalkerPrime (cracked me up lol).
It's always strikes me as appalling how Venomfangx is a known thief, yet he's fairly well-off financially and his videos just consist of a green screen and really crappy apologetics.
I don't see a problem with asking for donations as long as the person uses the donations only for making better quality videos, but...
I'm one of the people who is to skeptical to just flat out donate to a pay pal account or what have you, but I wouldn't have a prolem buying an item for a user if I thought it would make their videos more entertaining, have better quaility etc.
Also, people can start getting REAL dishonest when they realize they can make easy money. Just look at a LOT of churches
TruePooka is one of the very few people on YT whom I would gladly support in such a request. He seems like a straight-shooter to me, the real deal. I really enjoy his videos - both in content and delivery and so I'd like to see him continue what he does. I can't donate much, but I would definitely help as much as I can soon as I get paid.
I don't know what the deal is with others. Ultimately, if you don't want to donate... don't donate. It's your choice at the end of the day.
Ebegging to me is when the content maker asks money from his audience to pay their bills, or if they say they're gonna use it for a project and they spend it on themselves.
People who ask for money so they can produced better content for their viewers, and follow through on it are asking for donations.
I don't see anything wrong with people asking for donations, the economy being what it is, but the culture of youtube often has such an asinine response to people struggling financially its...
@Nagneto ...Not worth the backlash in my opinion. This depends on how good you are at your craft mind you. If you're genuinely entertaining, there's no shame in asking for donations.
I just don't think asking for money on youtube is that big a deal. Like everything else, people are free to just not watch the video or decline to donate. Why have an angry go at someone because they ask for money? It just seems like an arbitrary excuse to attack. I don't know. Just my opinion. :)
If someone provides some form of content I enjoy, be it YT/webcomics/mangahosting with no strings attached I don't mind donating some money given the option.
Heck, I have donated 30$ to 'Something Positive' over the years. Money well spent and no dead-tree magazines hogging space.
I make videos myself. I do it because it's fun. While I don't ask for donations (very small subscriber base), I don't see any problem with putting out the electronic equivalent of the guitar case. Especially give the hours of quality entertainment I've received from various Internet shows, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask for a bit of money for the hard work they put into something that entertains people.
I disagree to an extent, or maybe it's just a matter of interpretation. For example let's say you buy a camera to make better video's, or don't work a second job you could be working due to time spent filming, and editing. Would it be e-begging for you to explain that situation, and ask your subs to donate to help you buy a new tv, take your family on vacation, or help you get through a rough financial situation?
@TheNakedAtheist That's not what he's talking about, he's talking about the kind of stuff TotalBiscuit does, where all donations are reinvested into the channel and the cause.
At least that's what I gathered. Acting more like a Non-profit organisation.
@TheNakedAtheist i have my personal opinion of the scenario and i have the reality of the scenario...
reality is- if someone is spending their time to provide a service, they can ask for donations all they wish.
personally- if im spending money on YT and cant afford things for my family then its time to get off YT. if im spending money on my family and cant afford things on YT then i either cant afford it or donations are welcome by those who enjoy what i do.
@V00D00SIXXX-if im spending money on YT and cant afford things for my family then its time to get off YT.
Circumstances change. Six months ago someone might have been able to easily afforded to spend on both, but recently money may have become an issue. You should be able to see that.
More Panda Bears! Damn it! :) Well said Voodoo; you make a valid point. There is a big difference between E-begging, and funding. You are absolutely right.
@SnowWalkerPrime i just want more sasqui and snipes. if my zoo dont get a bigfoot in the petting zoo soon im going mushroom cloud on them! btw, ill get that $10 appearance fee out to you on the 33rd.
If the subscribers want to donate money and buy the content provider a bag of weed...well, that's okay, too. What's great about subscribers en mass is, many people can give a little and it can add up to be a good chunk of change.
I can testify that I bought a cheap Logitech webcam for $23 on Amazon and it does 720 resolution with remarkable clarity. That will get rid of the letterbox.
As always, if you need donations, you need to let us know...especially us po' boys.
I agree with what V00D00 was saying. Especially about donating if you want to see something specific or to help fund a project. If you are able to assist and would like to, you should and you also shouldn't feel obligated. Not everyone has the resources to donate.
I have sent some small donations to a couple of people that I value most on Youtube, and have been happy to do so. I can't see what's wrong in giving talented people a little encouragement, especially if they don't seem to have much money and don't have this partnership thing. (It's worse when they say it's for sick kid's, then keep it, or when they have scorned others for "e-begging" and then later have asked for money themselves...)
I agree with you VooDoo but some people are against it no matter what & I guess that's their prerogative. On another note, as much as I respect & like Pooka, he may have overreacted just a little.
My advice to people who don't like "e-begging" is the same advice I'd give to these "family values" censorship advocates (Can't recall any of their official names)...
If you don't like it, you are supplied with the means to watch or do something else.
But, if a Youtuber ask for funds/goods for a specific purpose and I was happy to help them out, I expect the money or goods to go ONLY towards the designatated purpose the money/goods were given to. Otherwise it's deception IMO.
The thing is there are some vulnerable people out there that would give their money to any charlatan they see. I am against it. I think what the Pooka is doing is a little better but it's still asking strangers to line your pockets. I like the Pooka but his vague threat to "take time off" from YouTube was a little below the belt
I don't see why people complain about e-begging at all to be honest. There is no obligation to contribute, so people just need to harden the fuck up a bit. I get sick of people complaining about stupid shit.
I really appreciate your thoughts on this Voodoo. You have made some very good points that have given me alot to think about. I am at work at the moment, and i must think on this. I will repond further this evening.
@CanadienAtheist no worries mate. this was more of a say my peace thing rather than it being just pointed at you or anyone in particular.
i just dont see what good will come from having everyone just fend for themselves against the juggernaut we face. as long as there is no scam involved and the donor's money is going where they intend it to go- i dont have a problem with people asking for funds.
Considering it from some of the angles that you raised I realize that I should not have called it e begging. That word has been used to describe the Brett Keanes and VFX's and I did not intend to call him that. It's amazing the chaos one can cause with 2 words.
Maybe I should have quietly unsubbed. However I don't like being called a liar and I couldn't let that go.
@CanadienAtheist im behind you on that, id be pissed too. it looks like you both just caught each other having gotten up on the wrong side of the bed that day. ive snapped at people myself on here when someone said something the rubbed me wrong.
Even youtube, as a free forum, requires money to pay the bills and employees. That's why there are ads all over the site, or links to videos with ads. It may not cost us anything to keep an account and upload videos, but Google does have to spend money to provide this.
I really don't understand it at all. No one want to do anything without being payed for it. So why is it so bad to ask for donation here on you tube. Seams like double standard it is okay to earn money one any kind of “work” but not on making videos. So I just have to agree with you on this. Regards and have a skilful time. Pinge
Asking for donations for the videos you're making isn't begging, it's a form of commerce. I'm baffled by people who will pay good money for the dreck Hollywood churns out, yet see see someone who is providing quality content asking for donations if they like what they're seeing as some Horrific Crime Against All That's Good And Proper.
@Huttate1 about the only time i have a problem with it is when deception is involved. outside of that, even if a person wants to ask his subs to provide 100% of his income through their donations- he has the right to do so as he is providing content for their consumption... in the end the donors will decide if it is worth it or not.
if a scam is involved however, i suspect myself, you and many others will do our utmost to expose it.
Well put. You made clear the difference between ebegging and asking for donations for a specific reason. If I had the means there are a number of people I wouldn't mind donating to, yourself included. Just gotta solve that problem of having the means.... :P
Just watched the two sides of this argument, you both have a valuable point to make....but I don't think you are doing anything wrong so I agree with you.
Okay, I have a question that I need help. What do you think when Thunderf00t calls out HowTheWorldWorks as a money grubbing subscriber whore and then zooming in on the donate button? Did HowTheWorldWorks needed money to get where he is at? Quality wise. The high definition to where he is at. Should I call Thunderf00t as a ebegging money grubbing eMo bunny if he is going to call out HowTheWorldWorks?
cguevara12 1 week ago
@cguevara12 if someone is being a hypocrite then why not call them out for it? i think its been done though in TFs case.
V00D00SIXXX 1 week ago
ps , I would love to see more about the "Bigfoot in the freezer" thing, do you have any links that would help?
as for e-begging well I think the term itself does not help, why not E-sponser or similar? If I as a private citizen want to send cash to someone that's my business,I have sent a youtuber an old Apple mac laptop I did not want or use & there was not a whisper heard, but for some reason sending cash seems to freak some people out,
paulspydar 1 month ago
what camera did you use to record this? thanks
paulspydar 1 month ago
this is why a site like kickstarter was created for people wanted to do a project they could ask for funding and give rewards for the the funding. its pretty neat.
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Not only are some of us "so sceptical we won't even give someone 10 bucks, even if its for a good cause" but we will attack that person with such vial wrath, even for someone who has had a trusted name for sometime and puts out nothing but quality work. It actually makes me quite embarrassed to be associated with the "atheist community" at times. It reminds me of the puritans at the salem witch trials. Pooka, you bare the mark of a WITCH! Give me a fucking break.
ObtuseSage 1 month ago
if I enjoy a youtube channel then I will be willing to donate. I ain't got a problem with that.
ArizonaPublic 1 month ago
I totally agree with your argument about e-begging. That's what I was trying to convey in my video: /watch?v=r9jAbZdTnvM
AtheismTV 1 month ago
Damn good points, all the way around. =)
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I propose a new term. The act of complaining about people asking for donations to help them make better videos is E-Scrooging
luccaskunk 1 month ago 2
Making good videos takes a lot of time. Time is money. Every hour someone spends making a video for free is an hour that could be spent making money. That's why I don't mind commercials on videos and refuse to block them. It's also why I'm not going to get upset over so called "e-begging".
luccaskunk 1 month ago
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Ask Jesus for a new camera VD6, lolz. Health care needs. I'd give if I knew a person needed procedure and couldn't pay for it.
bigboy45454545 1 month ago
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bigboy45454545 1 month ago
I see your point about trying to do things for your subscribers. What about illuminating a partnership with youtube for the subscribers? I hate those fucking commercials! Not only that but, at work, our firewall through our service won't play the commercials, so the 5 sec thing doesn't move and I can't see the video. I can't watch the Pooka's videos or AtheistAussie's videos at work.
SuperSoylent2 1 month ago
@SuperSoylent2 i dont allow adds on my videos for this channel for the benefit of the viewers. i do it on my other channel that deals with commercial products but this one is for people who just want to tune in and be entertained... no bs.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago 2
@V00D00SIXXX I didn't even know you had ads. Never had an issue with your channel.
SuperSoylent2 1 month ago
Comforting lies are always more popular than unpleasant truths
joyork 1 month ago
Since donations are, by definition, voluntary then, imo, no one has anything to complain about. I have donated money to certain sites where I thought it was in a good cause and I will continue to do so, it's my choice. I can't see why anyone would get so torqued out about it one way or the other. And I would certainly never unsubscribe from a channel I valued because of such a request, I'd just wait for their next video.
colourmegone 1 month ago
Also there are channels that routinely ask for donations which are very well worth watching, for example The Real News Network which actually posts a request for a $10 donation along with a link on each of their videos.
colourmegone 1 month ago
Policy seems to be that when people like you, you're allowed to E-beg for whatever the fuck. If public opinion is against you, you're not. YT really is like high school.
TheGlutesOfLove 1 month ago
When a Youtuber 1st picks up a camera to video their say or vlog, no one bought them the gear to do so. Many gained subs cos of the content rather than the quality. I understand ppl want to buy gifts, fine. I just don't feel comfortable with YTbers asking me to pay for their stuff. I'd still watch Pooka on a gritty video because he can maintain his audience and has interesting topics. I've never seen potholler54/wildwoodclaire/aronra/dprjones and many others ebeg. just my 2 bob
TheALGAYDA 1 month ago
Consider that if someone like you or TheTruePooka (either of you can easily expect 1000+ hits on any of your videos) did try to pull a Brett Keane, you'd be called on it immediately and would lose a sizable chunk of your subs. From what I can tell, Pook has integrity and I don't think he'd be willing to risk that.
deepashtray 1 month ago
$200 would have kept you from having to walk home!
LOL
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 hell, $200 would've gotten me a ride home AND some beer. i swear if he strands me one more time... me and Stephen Hawking both are going to kick him dead in his nuts.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago 4
@V00D00SIXXX That Hawking bit had me in stitches.
I couldn't help thinking of some ideas if you do more episodes, like how you might be able to cut away to the "expert," who makes authoritative comments on snipes. If you're interested, I know "someone" who might be interested in doing some use-'em-if-you-want-'em clips.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@V00D00SIXXX Sorry about that Voodoo, I got distracted....again. ;p I swear it won't happen next time.
SnowWalkerPrime 1 month ago
(Contd) ..the need for funding to support the people and groups that are promoting the things I agree with. Perhaps if something like the Donations button I see on some videos was on every video or channel, then that would take away the need for eBegging. It would normalise the idea of funding. I'm sure that Pooka thought long and hard about making the appeal. I didn't like hearing it, but you've given me a different angle to asses it by. Cheers.
DaithiDublin 1 month ago
Excellent point about funding. Mr. Deity spends about a third of his videos trying to raise money. Nobody seems to mind. But he's selling a product. Had that crew shown up years ago saying "We'll make some very funny videos if you buy us the equipment.'' they would get the same reaction from me: Build it and they'll come. That's where I see the line between donating and investing. Investors get a return. Beyond getting to watch the videos.
That said, I totally get the point about... (Contd)
DaithiDublin 1 month ago
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To donate is voluntary...but then again all gave to Caesar why not to God?....lottery in Canada is considered voluntary tax.....
seemeasis 1 month ago
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seemeasis 1 month ago
the only thing I see thats wrong with it is proof of purchase, would there be a cut off when donations reach a certain limit? its reassuring to see someone, maybe a youtube partner, if they're asking for funds to may show the item and receipt to the donators. That way the one asking for donations isn't accused and within what could be classed as charitable means. But brett keane can go play his PS3 in guilt. The thieving nomad cock nose that he is.
FletchRDG 1 month ago
@FletchRDG thats actually what i did when i took donations for my camera, i even doc dropped myself so that everyone could see what i was doing.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago
@V00D00SIXXX I can see the quality in videos compared to brett keane, his video quality is still crap. Yours are quite sharp and you sometimes change scene i.e the recent snipe vids with SnowWalkerPrime (cracked me up lol).
FletchRDG 1 month ago
It's always strikes me as appalling how Venomfangx is a known thief, yet he's fairly well-off financially and his videos just consist of a green screen and really crappy apologetics.
HorrorIllogium 1 month ago
I don't see a problem with asking for donations as long as the person uses the donations only for making better quality videos, but...
I'm one of the people who is to skeptical to just flat out donate to a pay pal account or what have you, but I wouldn't have a prolem buying an item for a user if I thought it would make their videos more entertaining, have better quaility etc.
Also, people can start getting REAL dishonest when they realize they can make easy money. Just look at a LOT of churches
Zentz29 1 month ago
TruePooka is one of the very few people on YT whom I would gladly support in such a request. He seems like a straight-shooter to me, the real deal. I really enjoy his videos - both in content and delivery and so I'd like to see him continue what he does. I can't donate much, but I would definitely help as much as I can soon as I get paid.
I don't know what the deal is with others. Ultimately, if you don't want to donate... don't donate. It's your choice at the end of the day.
lupine73 1 month ago
Ebegging to me is when the content maker asks money from his audience to pay their bills, or if they say they're gonna use it for a project and they spend it on themselves.
People who ask for money so they can produced better content for their viewers, and follow through on it are asking for donations.
I don't see anything wrong with people asking for donations, the economy being what it is, but the culture of youtube often has such an asinine response to people struggling financially its...
Nagneto 1 month ago
@Nagneto ...Not worth the backlash in my opinion. This depends on how good you are at your craft mind you. If you're genuinely entertaining, there's no shame in asking for donations.
Nagneto 1 month ago
I just don't think asking for money on youtube is that big a deal. Like everything else, people are free to just not watch the video or decline to donate. Why have an angry go at someone because they ask for money? It just seems like an arbitrary excuse to attack. I don't know. Just my opinion. :)
Christheatheist1 1 month ago
If someone provides some form of content I enjoy, be it YT/webcomics/mangahosting with no strings attached I don't mind donating some money given the option.
Heck, I have donated 30$ to 'Something Positive' over the years. Money well spent and no dead-tree magazines hogging space.
Holammer 1 month ago
Very nicely said. Sometimes we need help, and sometimes we can help.
stealthbadger 1 month ago
Heard about the Angry Video Game Nerd that has raised about 100 000 dollars from pure ebegging?
Bleachfanoftheyear 1 month ago
I make videos myself. I do it because it's fun. While I don't ask for donations (very small subscriber base), I don't see any problem with putting out the electronic equivalent of the guitar case. Especially give the hours of quality entertainment I've received from various Internet shows, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask for a bit of money for the hard work they put into something that entertains people.
Sines314 1 month ago
I find it hard to take from others, is that some kind of mental thing. ?
krapptacular 1 month ago
Voodoo begs you to not donate *unsub* :)
BOTUM255 1 month ago
I disagree to an extent, or maybe it's just a matter of interpretation. For example let's say you buy a camera to make better video's, or don't work a second job you could be working due to time spent filming, and editing. Would it be e-begging for you to explain that situation, and ask your subs to donate to help you buy a new tv, take your family on vacation, or help you get through a rough financial situation?
TheNakedAtheist 1 month ago
Continued...
I mean given that your inability to do those things, or the reason you're in that situation is in part due to time, and money spent on video making.
TheNakedAtheist 1 month ago
@TheNakedAtheist That's not what he's talking about, he's talking about the kind of stuff TotalBiscuit does, where all donations are reinvested into the channel and the cause.
At least that's what I gathered. Acting more like a Non-profit organisation.
emikochan13 1 month ago
@TheNakedAtheist i have my personal opinion of the scenario and i have the reality of the scenario...
reality is- if someone is spending their time to provide a service, they can ask for donations all they wish.
personally- if im spending money on YT and cant afford things for my family then its time to get off YT. if im spending money on my family and cant afford things on YT then i either cant afford it or donations are welcome by those who enjoy what i do.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago
@V00D00SIXXX-if im spending money on YT and cant afford things for my family then its time to get off YT.
Circumstances change. Six months ago someone might have been able to easily afforded to spend on both, but recently money may have become an issue. You should be able to see that.
TheNakedAtheist 1 month ago
@TheNakedAtheist 6 months ago wasnt part of your original scenario.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago
@V00D00SIXXX
That was the point. Situations arise where money is needed that weren't necessarily anticipated. That obviously requires the passage of time. lol
TheNakedAtheist 1 month ago
More Panda Bears! Damn it! :) Well said Voodoo; you make a valid point. There is a big difference between E-begging, and funding. You are absolutely right.
SnowWalkerPrime 1 month ago
@SnowWalkerPrime i just want more sasqui and snipes. if my zoo dont get a bigfoot in the petting zoo soon im going mushroom cloud on them! btw, ill get that $10 appearance fee out to you on the 33rd.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago
@V00D00SIXXX There's a $10.00 appearance fee?? WoooooWOOOOOOO!
SnowWalkerPrime 1 month ago
I do understand indeed. I know how hard it can be. I still have no video softwhare.
krapptacular 1 month ago
If the subscribers want to donate money and buy the content provider a bag of weed...well, that's okay, too. What's great about subscribers en mass is, many people can give a little and it can add up to be a good chunk of change.
I can testify that I bought a cheap Logitech webcam for $23 on Amazon and it does 720 resolution with remarkable clarity. That will get rid of the letterbox.
As always, if you need donations, you need to let us know...especially us po' boys.
PsychedelicRoadshow 1 month ago
I agree with what V00D00 was saying. Especially about donating if you want to see something specific or to help fund a project. If you are able to assist and would like to, you should and you also shouldn't feel obligated. Not everyone has the resources to donate.
Anyway
Where can I mail the dildos and lube?
Keep up the good work.
somuchfortalent 1 month ago
@somuchfortalent the dildos to go SnowWalkerOne, all lube must be forwarded to Kent Hovind.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago 9
@V00D00SIXXX Feel free to forward both of those items to Kent.
SnowWalkerPrime 1 month ago
I have sent some small donations to a couple of people that I value most on Youtube, and have been happy to do so. I can't see what's wrong in giving talented people a little encouragement, especially if they don't seem to have much money and don't have this partnership thing. (It's worse when they say it's for sick kid's, then keep it, or when they have scorned others for "e-begging" and then later have asked for money themselves...)
RONLAST 1 month ago
You're totally right
JoesephKatana 1 month ago
I agree with you VooDoo but some people are against it no matter what & I guess that's their prerogative. On another note, as much as I respect & like Pooka, he may have overreacted just a little.
sheri226 1 month ago
My advice to people who don't like "e-begging" is the same advice I'd give to these "family values" censorship advocates (Can't recall any of their official names)...
If you don't like it, you are supplied with the means to watch or do something else.
But, if a Youtuber ask for funds/goods for a specific purpose and I was happy to help them out, I expect the money or goods to go ONLY towards the designatated purpose the money/goods were given to. Otherwise it's deception IMO.
ShallowBeThyGames 1 month ago
The thing is there are some vulnerable people out there that would give their money to any charlatan they see. I am against it. I think what the Pooka is doing is a little better but it's still asking strangers to line your pockets. I like the Pooka but his vague threat to "take time off" from YouTube was a little below the belt
19822andy 1 month ago
I don't see why people complain about e-begging at all to be honest. There is no obligation to contribute, so people just need to harden the fuck up a bit. I get sick of people complaining about stupid shit.
Oct195 1 month ago
Your video reponce has been approved of course.
I really appreciate your thoughts on this Voodoo. You have made some very good points that have given me alot to think about. I am at work at the moment, and i must think on this. I will repond further this evening.
CanadienAtheist 1 month ago
@CanadienAtheist no worries mate. this was more of a say my peace thing rather than it being just pointed at you or anyone in particular.
i just dont see what good will come from having everyone just fend for themselves against the juggernaut we face. as long as there is no scam involved and the donor's money is going where they intend it to go- i dont have a problem with people asking for funds.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago
@V00D00SIXXX Good morning.
Considering it from some of the angles that you raised I realize that I should not have called it e begging. That word has been used to describe the Brett Keanes and VFX's and I did not intend to call him that. It's amazing the chaos one can cause with 2 words.
Maybe I should have quietly unsubbed. However I don't like being called a liar and I couldn't let that go.
CanadienAtheist 1 month ago
@CanadienAtheist im behind you on that, id be pissed too. it looks like you both just caught each other having gotten up on the wrong side of the bed that day. ive snapped at people myself on here when someone said something the rubbed me wrong.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago
Thank you. I value some people on Youtube more than TV.
awatson945 1 month ago 9
Even youtube, as a free forum, requires money to pay the bills and employees. That's why there are ads all over the site, or links to videos with ads. It may not cost us anything to keep an account and upload videos, but Google does have to spend money to provide this.
WaffleDeath 1 month ago
I really don't understand it at all. No one want to do anything without being payed for it. So why is it so bad to ask for donation here on you tube. Seams like double standard it is okay to earn money one any kind of “work” but not on making videos. So I just have to agree with you on this. Regards and have a skilful time. Pinge
PingeMusic 1 month ago
Asking for donations for the videos you're making isn't begging, it's a form of commerce. I'm baffled by people who will pay good money for the dreck Hollywood churns out, yet see see someone who is providing quality content asking for donations if they like what they're seeing as some Horrific Crime Against All That's Good And Proper.
hosebeatings 1 month ago
b.t.w. I produce all my output on a 6 year old laptop and do not have broadband access.
Huttate1 1 month ago
I agree with most of what you say. I suppose where I find it difficult is that we are here exposing the scam artists and fraudsters.
Perhaps the answer is that - if funding is provided - then it is made clear what has come in and what it has been spent on.
Of course if we are revenue streaming - everyone knows the score.
Huttate1 1 month ago
@Huttate1 about the only time i have a problem with it is when deception is involved. outside of that, even if a person wants to ask his subs to provide 100% of his income through their donations- he has the right to do so as he is providing content for their consumption... in the end the donors will decide if it is worth it or not.
if a scam is involved however, i suspect myself, you and many others will do our utmost to expose it.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago
Well put. You made clear the difference between ebegging and asking for donations for a specific reason. If I had the means there are a number of people I wouldn't mind donating to, yourself included. Just gotta solve that problem of having the means.... :P
MagorianAx 1 month ago
Just watched the two sides of this argument, you both have a valuable point to make....but I don't think you are doing anything wrong so I agree with you.
notlob444 1 month ago
I'd only have two objections to people asking for money online:
1) the money is not allocated as stated (VFX, BK)
2) it's an obvious scam (Peter Popoff)
When the objective is clear, then I have no problems with it.
firefly4f4 1 month ago
two words...
'product placement'
CyberNeticRodent 1 month ago
If you want to get rid of the black bars at the side, paste yt:stretch=16:9 into the "Tags" section of the info bollox....
Yes , The Force is strong within me...
stripymccatpuss 1 month ago
I think you're right on the money here, V6!
BTW, I looooooved your Snipe video!
billygutter01 1 month ago