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  • if ancient China wanted to occupy Vietnam . there is no Vietnamese today...

  • @smartgirlfat People must realize Tibet, Taiwan, Mongolia, Yu Nan, Hong Kong, and Manchuria are all chinese people and china's land, though they are different clans and tribes from Hans (which is china's main population).

  • All modern technology was stolen from 10,000 years old Indian Hindu religious books, Americans stole design of Nuclear weapons and Reactors,space ships etc. Chinese stole design of Naval fleets, gun powder, magnetic compass etc. Computer was invented by a Hindu 8000 years ago. Indians are the smartest people on the face of this planet, in fact English language was also invented by Indians.

    I wonder if the up loader of this video agrees with above claims.

    LOL

  • zheng he dont have a penis

  • @ihavesomerice i think he had a penis, but not balls

    i remember something about eunichs having sex with those affiliated with the royal family, but no harm cus no balls

  • lol, he said 'zen he'.

    it's still on debate who had the best ancient army but it is clear that the chinese had the best navy

  • Zheng-he(Gen-her) he is the boy(3rd generation Turks) who lead the prince (3rd MIng emperor) army to his city he stay when chinese revoke the mongolian last 2 strong hold in Yun Nan (south west of china) where Zheng-He grandfather was a official for the mongolian ruler. He was trusted sinced by the prince and arrange to train under a buddhist Monk whom is the adviser to the prince.

  • @sushuh

    Zheng-he is Hui ethnic; not Turk !

  • @smartgirlfat you mean 回族's Hui?

  • chinese had out last all their invading force and documented proven, what make u think we can't out last your lovely country? western culture are leech culture bias culture, suck and enslave all to make your self strong culture, what to glorify about it u son of leeches.

  • chinese had out last all their invading force and documented proven, what make u think we can't out last your lovely country? western culture are leech culture bias culture, suck and enslave all to make your self strong culture, what to glorify about it u son of leeches.

  • Losers are the ones who love to talk about how great they were in the past, but fucked up everything they doing now & future.

    Winners are the one who have bright future and currently doing well.

  • @ canadianfirzen, Moral rights are complicated but your opinion in this issue seems unlikely. Since to be honest you have shown a bias towards China from begining, even to the point of denial.

  • @ canadianfirzen, I was not arguing about moral right only that the invasion took place.

    But now you think I'm biased, meaning the history I'm reading is biased too. Well here some other sources I can remember reading Encyclopedia Britannica, The Concise History of East Asia. And the The History of South East Asia. As i remember All corresponded to what i wrote earlier.

  • First of all, you seem very biased. Second, what you have read could be biased as well, because really history is full of assertion, and is always open to debate. scientificly if you can't accept other opinions and argue you are right; you are biased. And psychologically West is biased toward the East very often too. In fact, i never said i am not biased, everybody is biased in some way, and I am just stating the truth as I know it. You are avoiding my points and giving me vague assertions

  • Its good you can admit your biased. But still absolutely zero sources from you so I can only think that you are wrong and have no bases for your belief.

    "Every one has a bias" So accerting before that I had a bias was meaningless.

    "And psychologically West is biased toward the East very often too" I'm only talking about the countries in Asia or do you think Vietnam and Korea are in the West??

    Enough said this is going nowhere

  • In fact Chin don't want to conquer the world... but I don't like the mongolian empire too... it is the most brutal in history of mankind, killing more than ww1 and ww2 combined. And remember you guys conquered the world using Persian and Chin weaponries. And mongol empire wasn't a long empire too, it was only strong in middle ages, and why is that?? You guys didn't learn much, you can defeat others by weaponries, but you can't conquer others with mind. So it was a useless chapter of history

  • I agree with you candianfirzen, the chinese never really had to use force to conquer, all they needed was to brainwash others into thinking like them. the mongols and the manchus never conquered china, the chinese conquered them by brainwashing them into thinking like the chinese, they assimilated them. and as for the Yuan dynasty it was the lowest dynasty in chinas 5000 year old history

  • HAHAHA this is so funny, a lowly MONGOLIAN being racist and using words like "chink"? oh please dont make me laugh you guys are the lowest denominators of the Oriental race.

  • @MogulKahn2

    Who had conquered Mongol ? (Manchu, Russia-Outer Mongolia, China-Inner Mongolia)

    Who has one of the worst economy in Asia ? (Mongolia)

    Who has one of the weakest modern military in Asia ? (Mongolia)

    Who were uncivilized barbarians ? (Mongolians)

    Who has average IQ=98 ? (Mongolian - no good in academy nor R&D)

    If your people truly that great, why you aren't doing well now ?

    Do you even have future ?

    Why only brought out those "good old days When Ghengis rooted the world"?

  • mogulkahn is probably an indian turdlet, moguls were the bastard sons of mongols and and south asian women.

  • @smartgirlfat IQ doesn't matter. It's there to mess you up. The quicker learner is the baddest. The slower learner is the good one. Explains why all the fast learners are causing more trouble than slow learners. :P

    Now go speed look at your cubes and see which one is smaller for IQ.

  • @smartgirlfat I have to say the things you have pointed out may be true, I am chinese, and i really do not respect when people label only hans people as chinese, while many parts such as tibet and mongolia are also chinese, but only another ethnic tribe or clan, therefore, I don't believe pointing out their weaknesses are right as well.

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  • @MogulKahn2

    Chink?

    Is that how you address a race that is far superior to your own?

    LMFAO go back to your cave you foul smelling barbarians. You only ruled China for 200 years LMFAO..look at you now? Do your people even have money for toilet paper you barbarian? A barbarian will always be a barbarian. History never lies. If it wasn't for you Barbarians (Mongols and Machus) China would still be the most advanced nation on Earth.

    You barbarians slowed the advancement.

  • @MogulKahn2

    FUCK ALL MOGOLS.

    They are the equivalent of dogs and feces. A inferior race composed of barbarians and savages.

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  • Except that Vietnam king actually asked China to attack Vietnam to overthrow the usurper. And China never attacked Korea in 16th century... could you give me a little bit of truth. I hate to say this, but i even think you lied

  • Actually I think I got the dates a bit wrong but what I said was correct basically. Heres the a direct quote from Wikipedia. 'In 1407, under the pretext of helping to restore the Trần Dynasty, Chinese Ming troops invaded Đại Ngu and captured Hồ Quý Ly and Hồ Hán Thương. The Hồ Dynasty came to an end after only 7 years in power.' .

    Remember the important words are: Pretext and invaded!

  • ok....maybe I did, ok Wikipedia is a bad source becuz ppl can change it. However, it is saying the truth "helping to restore the Trần Dynasty", I don't know how they can say it's a pretext without even been there... It is not really scientific at all. Regarding China attacking Korea in 16th century part can you search it up for me; I am really tired. The burden of proof lies on the accuser, so you should find me them.

  • lol maybe you did there's no maybe you did.

    But hey like I said before I got the dates a bit wrong its 16 something Korea was invaded by China so its actually the 17th century but I'm not going to look it up for you. That info is available for anyone who cares to look.

    Yes wikipedia is semi unreliable but the view of China invading Vietnam in 1407 is the consensus of history.

    And It was pretext . In other words China just used it as a excuse to invade to gain power

  • "China invading Vietnam in 1407 is the consensus of history."

    Really?

    hey found the invasion battle yet? I am waiting

  • Yes really lol, and I'm not looking for a battle plan, did I say I was? No, You just need to go to your local library if you want confirmation of what I wrote and you don't trust the Internet source provided already. What are you lazy?

    By the way, You have no proof of your statements from anywhere its only your opinion. And remember too you began by accusing me of lying. Think on your own words "The burden of proof lies on the accuser, so you should find me them."

  • Well, I already gave u my "opinion" already(just check history books it is actually not my opinion), you are the one who is accusing it right now... so I guess you know what I mean, I am just disagreeing with you I didn't say you are lying, plz don't make it so difficult.

  • Actually I was reading Asian History (books as well as online sources) out of interest just before watched this clip . Its why I looked it up. So I have checked already. Have you checked?

    Also I wrote your statements were opinion because you give no reference.

    Im not being diificult just accurate

  • .................You didn't give me any sources too, except Wikipedia... Acutally as for Wikipedia that's where I looked up that too. I read a lot of books about history and I believe you are talking about Qing, who were nomadic before they were transformed into Chin, which really has nothing to do with this video here. They are at all different period of time, and Ming is really civilized. if you look at Chin and Viet war, almost every China's attack on Viet has a reason not simple invasion.

  • Yeah you read Wikipedia and disagreed with it as well as my veiw and also all other sources I have read on the China attack/invasion of Vietnam in 1407

  • no... because I read more than Wikipedia so I know there is a explanation behind every China's attacks on Vietnam, Wikipedia is kinda biased claims, I am serious about that...I don't know how you say it is a pretext, I don't agree with you on that and you can't accept that? Vietnam and Korean always pretend to be so invaded by China and stuff... Yet, Goguryeo attacked China first(wikipedia), and there is a reason behind every attack China have on Vietnam. So i think your claim is biased too.

  • In fact, in the past countries fight with each other a lot, and boundaries change repeatedly throughout history. If you are saying China invades that might not be fair look again, because each attack China had on Vietnam is always kinda Vietname invoking China to attack. Well, everybody has a prejudice against China, if you look at China's history, China get more invaded than invading others OK? If you look at Europe, holy they basically invaded everyone. Therefore, if you compare really...

  • I don't think everybody has prejudice against China obviously that Mongolian guy who made a comment here does for sure but I definitely don't have any . But I do like to be accurate about history.

  • Comparing China to Europe is silly to me, since you are comparing a Continent of different country's to one single country and most country's are very different with backgrounds and positions. I'm sure almost all country's in Europe invaded more country's than China but all European country's situations on the world stage is radically different to China's. Any resonable amount of history reading would tell you that. So whats the point?

  • "Comparing China to Europe is silly to me" yes i know but people always do... "but all European country's situations on the world stage is radically different to China's" I don't know what do you mean by radically different to China's? "So whats the point? " my point is that if you compare globally, China is not as hateful as what most ppl think

  • @canadianfirzen  When I wrote radially different What I mean is, population, size,age, neighbouring countries, the type of crops that can be grown, other geophysical differences. China's stats are very different than European country's (except perhaps Russia with Size). These are major factors in wither or not a country is likely to be Invade another.

  • If you want sources, I can give you lots. it's just why would do that on youtube comment... What you give me you said it's one of the history consensus, well I gotta say mine is also a history consensus believe it or not

  • guess you are mentioning now the Manchu Invasion of Korea . From what I have read the Manchu state was within the Ming empire (and of course Manchus where in other places as well) but the base was within the Ming Empire from were they invaded Korea, then after they became the dominant power in China they formed the Qing Dynasty. For me that makes them very Chinese as the Parent is responsible for the child and in this situation the child became the Parent.

  • Manchu was not really controlled by Ming, Ming only controls nomadic tribes through means of tea exports, nomadic tribes only eat meat that is why they need large amount of tea, in their tradition there is a saying:"drink milk tea for 3 times a day, eat once a day." Ming closed the tea trade for once and was forced to open the trade again, and then through trade the Manchus learned to do agriculture. Actually Manchu invasion of Korea is not pushed by Ming.

  • You are kind of ignoring the points I made and are trying to say China had some kind moral right to invade Korea and Vietnam. Or in the case of of the Manchu Invasion that it was not really China.

    Also I did not think the the Ming dynasty puched for the invasion Manchu invasion. What I wrote earlier describes my position,

    'the Parent is responsible for the child and in this situation the child became the Parent. '

  • Just when exactly did China invade Korea?? U never tell me what battle was it? Ok, when vietnam openly invoking China into war or asking China to sent troops to vietnam you call that invasion?!

  • @canadianfirzen Korea was china's colonized country since the Waring States, and had lasted for a very long period of time, the longest and most great rule over korea was during the Kumai empire of China. It was until a later dynasty as chinese civil war became most often, as china lost it's control over korea. Korea then began to sprawl on it's own and china sent constant invasions to take back control, though one japan began it's invasion on Korea china once again became allies with korea.

  • @tacosvsburitos could you remind me briefly about what I said? I forgot about it...

  • @canadianfirzen Also, China had sent troops into Vietnam and nailed their forces at sea and on land for about a few weeks, send vietnamese troops retreating like dogs, until china reached a intercection point in which china did not bother to send such troops to fight on as the vietnamese defence line got stronger, and the battle began to fade although the war went on for about more than a month. Until finally the vietnamese signed a treaty to end the confusion.

    In broad terms that's what happen

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  • @saint666 What did I say?? Can u cite it for me?? and BTW turks r muslims, and actually Malasians were civilized but unfortunately they were conquered by Europeans, and some stone aged countries such as Ethiopia was not conquered by Europeans that was the most funniest battle in history guns and canons were defeated by.... HAHAHA

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  • @canadianfirzen Manchu is a ethnic tribe of china, and has always been a chinese foreign group of people or clan from the Hans (the origin and main formal clan of people, that are the majority of the population in modern china). People must realize that Hans are not all of China, Hans are the main group of people in china (center of civilization progression), though tibet, mongolia, Manchu, Taiwan, Yu Nan, etc were all chinese ethnic tribes who had their own culture similar to chinese culture.

  • So there you go canadianfirzen the truth, You can also find out about China invading Korea as well if you look it up online

  • what are you talking about?? Did i comment on Korea or Vietnam at all??

  • Yeah you did your comment is above.

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