When a man wants to beat a dog, they say he can always find a stick to do it with. And when a man wants to find excuses for not believing in Christ, he can always
@kidcalifornia009: u should read about pagan holidays and greek and roman mythology all of which came waaaaaaaaay before the bible. u'll see, what's in the bible was copied from everything that came before it!
To the delusional people who are gonna come up with stupid comments about how god exists, ask your self this, does santa exist? Do Zeus, Poseidon, and Aphrodite exist?? nope. why? because they are made up supreme beings of which there are books and whatnot about them, but absolutely no evidence they exist. So is god; made up, has stories about him. But no kind of proof. wawa waaaaaah.. So god does not exist.
@kidcalifornia009 boy are you delusional. sooooo, without a huge dick head telling you he will burn you, you will be terrible?? wow. delusional.. god doesn't exist.. does Zeus exists? do unicorns exist? nope. neither does god. enough already.... you're the fool.
I just saw "God said. 'Ha!'" two days ago and Julia is an exquisite storyteller! I'm a huge fan of her now...and even more so now that I know she's agnostic or atheist. Go girl!!
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And hence why I call you all, SHEEPLE. MOST of you can NOT even interpret this picture she used. Noticed how she partly covered one eye? HA! YOU SHEEPLE.
Google image "one eye illuminati". IT IS NOT A COINCEDENCE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS ONE EYE THING. I feel like SMACKING YOU ALL AWAKE... JESUS, YOU SHEEPLE ARE ASLEEP.
I love how atheist always think they know all, and that they are better then everyone. And have to rub it in their faces. What hypocritical pricks. Agnostic>Atheist! Bitches. haha
Love this monologue. The whole show is thought-provoking. The only bad thing is that tons of atheists are so bloody angry all the time. Just because I am not sure of God doesn't mean I want to beat everyone else's faith into dust. I think it also takes a former Christian to really understand what Julia's even talking about.
I was fortunate enough to hear her do this live and I also bought the video to share with friends. March 20-26, 2011, is "A" week, when atheists are encouraged to come out of the closet and stand up for the truth that a person can be "Good without god." Some of us are putting an "A" in as our Profile picture for the week.
March 20-26, 2011, is "A" day, when atheists are encouraged to come out of the closet and stand up for the truth that a person can be "Good without god." Some of us are putting an "A" in as our Profile picture for the week.
Those who deny the facts, embarrass themselves. I think we should respond to the outrageous clams of the zealots, without engaging them. We should respond by engaging those who are not sure what to believe by explaining to them how fact-based science is the only way we can make sure progress in our understanding about the world we live in, and admitting our ignorance in the areas that we have no data or working theory is far better than deluding ourselves into thinking we know things we don't.
She swiped her "age of reason" act from a little musical production called "Do Black Pattent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up?"... almost word for word; age 7, the sister, "permanent record".
@ShawnsterVideos said "almost word for word; age 7, the sister, 'permanent record'" Sorry, she didn't "swipe" the age of reason concept from a play; she was TAUGHT it as part of her religious training, just like, I'm sure, the authors of your "little musical production" (LOL) and every other kid who ever made their First Holy Communion. There are plenty of comedy routines based on Catholic school memories. Good for you for knowing ONE, but it doesn't mean all the others "swiped" from it.
@ivyshoots Ivy, I typed "word for word" you typed "concept"; 2 different points.
Please see a production of Do Black Patent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up, then report back to us. You'll agree that Julia swiped the words almost verbatim.
Whether she was taught the concept, or whether it is one of many "comedy routines based on Catholic school memories" as you mention... I don't really give a fuck. My point is her plagarism
Lastly, If you want people to take you seriously never type "LOL".
"Come Unto Me all who labor and are weary with the cares and concerns of life, I Myself will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and Learn of Me, for I am Gentile and Humble in heart and YOU WILL FIND rest for your souls, for My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
You see that, "You will find.." statement? Thats a very loud and clear and definitive statement. So, keep on believing that its NOT true, yet it is.
He never lies about that.
The problem exists WITHIN people in relation to HIM.
Numbers 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.
--So you say your relation to these guys is.. good? Where do you live again exactly? Just for the police to know where they find their delusional, mentally retarded murderer.
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All she is doing is relating bad experiences in her Catholic upbringing. How that translates to disbelief in God is amazing. People just love this stuff. When they find "disbelievers" they gravitate like the pack of lost, angry, empty souls they act like and then attack those they never met who DO have faith in the God WHO IS THERE TO HAVE FAITH IN.
When atheists are all alone, after they leave their empty "comments" they are left with emptiness, fears, worries, anxieties, hatred, no hope
@MySunshineNora I don't think it's fair to remove your comments. I do however think that the emptiness you wish to ascribe to people who think about things rationally is naive. You view the world through a religious eye. The eye that rational thinkers see the world through is far more open than you give them credit for. Hope (and all other emotions you mention) does not rest in the faithful alone. When you say 'all she is doing" you miss the point entirely. It is the religious that have fear.
All she is doing is relating bad experiences in her Catholic upbringing. How that translates to disbelief in God is amazing. People just love this stuff. When they find "disbelievers" they gravitate like the pack of lost, angry, empty animals they act like and then attack those they never met who DO have faith in the God WHO IS THERE TO HAVE FAITH IN.
When atheists are all alone, after they leave their empty "comments" they are left with frustrations, fears, worries, anxieties, hatred, no hope
I just realized that my "She'll be forgotten in a generation or two"... was not very appropriate.. I'm sorry for saying it so harshly. I meant no disrespect. No, I don't agree with her, but she's saying what a lot of people feel, and has every right to express her beliefs, and how they came about.
I have little or NO use for organized religion, but I am a Christian. I'm 63, I didn't come to my beliefs overnight. Please except my apology to Julia for a harsh and uncalled for remark.
Whether she'll be "forgotten" has nothing to do with the validity of what she says. Basing thought on popularity is how the religious think and how the absurdity of religion is perpetuated - a process of social pressure and brainwashing, in many cases both past and present under threat of violence for failure to proclaim acceptance of the fairy tale. Well, of course the whole linchpin for Xtian belief is you'll be eternally tortured if you don't get onboard.
@WordOfTheLivingLie : jews alienate u and call u a gentile...now u know where racism started. ;) (that's coming from someone with jewish parents btw so dear jews who read this don't get ur panties up in a bunch!)
christians say well it's either the jesus way or the hell way regardless of how much of a good person or bad person u r! Nice adverstisement, don't u think?! =)
muslims say it's either mohammed or i'm gonna stick a double edged sword into ur gut and twist it or blow u up!!!
I respect her beliefs...don't agree with them...but that's fine... others have found what she says to be totally untrue... Funny how we can experience the same things, and have totally different reactions. Two people can look at a stock, read about it, study it... one can't wait to buy it... thinks it's the next Microsoft. The other, same information, can't wait to dump it. She a fine speaker, will influence a lot of people... will be forgotten a generation or two... sorry...
@netguider Why do you think she'll be forgotten? Simply because you don't agree with her? Her story is very moving and one that shouldn't be cast aside simply because you don't agree; if anything, this proves you should have another listen to get more out of it. She's a fantastic example of goodness without religion, and saying she'll be forgotten simply for not being is pretty disrespectful.
@netguider "Funny how we can experience the same things, and have totally different reactions" - Nothing mysterious about it - if your entire intellectual frame of reference has been warped to not hold reason and reality as the ultimate standard, then you'll be more likely to accept irrational absurdities, oh say like The Legend Of The Zombie Jew Carpenter Who Is His Own Father....etc. etc.
I bought this show on Audible about 2 years ago. Worth every penny. I was already an atheist before, but I'd never read/heard anything about the emotional side of rejecting god, and I struggled. I was raised Christian and I was having a hard time not seeing myself as a terrible person because I couldn't believe. This monologue helped me break through all of that. It made me finally realize and accept that I am not a terrible person for not believing in god.
@LordWhorfinX2 No it is accurate. The term subhuman has been historically used to excuse slavery and genocide. You need to learn to treat your fellow man as equals without the hatred in your heart. “The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.” JC. Your words speak volumes about what is truly in your heart.
@LordWhorfinX2 I think you really need to consider these words - "the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.” JC. And in response to your last comment -
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
I am afraid your words and actions do not agree with the one you claim to respresent. You must let the hatred out and let love into your heart.
@WillShakespeare2007 If you are an atheist, these words mean nothing and you are just an evil little subhuman trying to be manipulative........I'm not surprised though.
I am doing EXACTLY as I would have others do unto me! :) I am telling you there IS a God.
@LordWhorfinX2 I lose? I was unaware that there was a competition. So you are saying you would have others treat you as subhuman. This is what you do unto them - treat them as subhuman, so you must wish for them to treat you as subhuman. This is the only conclusion that can be drawn. So others must lose and you must win and the others are subhuman? Is that the essence of your personal belief system because this sounds nothing like Christianity to me.
@WillShakespeare2007 I treat you as I want to be treated.....I'm telling you there is God. If I didn't believe in God, I should be treated like a subhuman....if I were a criminal, I should be treated as such, etc etc...... it's pretty easy to understand. I'm not surprised that you cannot grasp such a simple concept.
You don't know anything about religion so why do you pretend to know anything about Christianity?
@LordWhorfinX2 “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” I would think this was pretty easy to interpret. What you seem to read this as is "decide others are lesser than you and then persecute them." Treat others as yourself - simple. As I say you can follow your own belief system but please do not claim these evil beliefs are Christian. Christianity is a religion of peace and love not hatred. I think you must be following some sort of pagan religion - perhaps a Roman god?
@WillShakespeare2007 LOL! Keep it up, you're making me laugh here! Shows what you know..... I love and pray for everyone, but it doesn't change the fact that atheists are pathetic.... :D
@LordWhorfinX2: You mean, pets (cats & dogs) that don't believe in god, tend to inspire pity and/or sympathy? O.k., but, what about the FUNDIE pets? And wouldn't that be a survival trait?
@chesterdjester gotcha.....can you prove that? I mean, really...please prove to me that atheism is correct.
Sure there is no REAL Santa in a flying sleigh.......but the myth is still based off a real person so....didn't he really exist at one point? Eh, no matter,,,
Just prove that atheism is correct. Please. I'm not asking you to prove there is no God.....so don't pull that "prove a negative crap".
@LordWhorfinX2 okay, I can't prove that there is no god, but I also can't prove there isn't a tea pot in an elliptical orbit around the sun and those have the exact same probability of truth. So by using reasoning skills I believe there is no teapot orbiting the sun and that there is no god, because of probabilities.
@chesterdjester Wow, just an atheist parrot regurgitating what your prophetic leader Dawkins says...lmao.....can't you idiots think for yourselves?!
There, you cannot prove there is no God nor can any of you prove atheism is correct nor can any of you tell me what it would take to convince you of God's existence......just keep dodging everything...lmao
@LordWhorfinX2 first, make sure Dawkins said it when I say it, because I quoted Bertrand Russel. And it would take a being fixing all problems in the world and then showing himself for me to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he exists.
@chesterdjester Fixing "all" problems? But what you might see as a problem another person might actually like it. Some people thing being gay is a problem whilst others think it is just fine. And people would doubt even if God came to your doorstep and said "Hi, I'm God". So what you suggest wouldn't work. It wouldn't work because you don't WANT it to work. You don't WANT there to be a God.
And I have heard Dawkins say the teapot thing plenty of times......
@LordWhorfinX2 Even if it was god and I was sure it was god assuming it was the biblical god. I would call him a dick and tell him to leave my house, and it's not about all problems I meant all real problems, war world hunger violence. Stuff everyone disagrees on.
@chesterdjester That's a mature response....call God a dick...lol. And there is not one single thing on this planet that EVERYONE can agree on. Some people think those wars are a good thing.
So you are still wrong. And seeing as how you say you would STILL call God a dick even after you KNOW it is really Him, it only shows your petty anger and immaturity.
And you CANNOT give one example of something that EVERYONE ON EARTH agrees on.....it's a sheer impossibility.
@LordWhorfinX2 I would call god a dick for hundreds of reasons. Why do starving children in Africa die when fat bastards with porsches have heart attacks and live? Here is biblical proof god can suck a dick; Judges 21:10-24, Numbers 31:7-18, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, Deuteronomy 22:28-29, 2 Samuel 12:11-14, Leviticus 25:44-46, Luke 12:47-48, Deuteronomy 17:12, Exodus 21:15, Proverbs 20:20, do you want more reasons? the list can go on.
@chesterdjester Have YOU gone to Africa to feed the hungry? You obviously have FAR more money than they do because you are using a computer. So if anyone is the "dick", it's you. And those fat bastards have issues and problems of their own. You honestly think hunger is the ONLY issue on Earth?! Get a clue. It's atheists like you that are the problem, blaming a God you say you don't even believe in when you yourself do NOTHING to help....
@LordWhorfinX2 If there is a God then why do I have to? It is effortless for God to make everything better. And if there isn't a God why does responsibility fall to me? And since this is anonymous how do you know I haven't done anything? Also if there is no god there are many ways of helping the world, just because I don't go to africa and free people doesn't mean I'm not in college learning how to preserve humanity. I'm working on a degree in Computer Engineering in Aerospace, thats me.
@chesterdjester Did you expect your parents to go to school for you? Do you expect other people to do everything for you? No (well, I hope not at least). If God did everything for us, then there is no real freedom. Even if He made one exception, people would argue that since He did one thing for one person then He should do other things for other people. And since you aren't personally going to Africa, then it really isn't that important to you, you're in school.
@LordWhorfinX2 Freedom and belief in god is an Oximoron. If there is a god there can be no freedom, he is all omniscience, he knows that I'm going to hell before I'm born, therefore HE damned me to hell. He knew those children were going to die being pecked at by birds because HE is in the future and the past at the same time. HE Knew Hitler would kill jews and let it him be born anyways, so HE condemned Hitler to hell, not Hitler. Unless god is NOT all powerful then it is HIS fault.
@chesterdjester You couldn't be more wrong. God IS freedom. We have free will to do whatever we want. It's like watching a video of your life, you had all the freedom in the world to make your choices, only God has seen this tape. If you understand the basics of temporal mechanics this would be a layup for you. You have free will, God already knows what you are going to do, it's STILL your fault because YOU made the choices!
@LordWhorfinX2 HE knew I would with 100% certainty that I would do atrocity (A) there for me being born and me making that choice means it was predetermined even if I feel I was the one who did it. If anything outside of my personal conciousness knows with 100% certainty anything I'm going to do before i do it, then it was predetermined.
@chesterdjester Yes, YOU predetermined it with your choices...lol. No one told you to do anything. God didn't force you to do anything. And if it is 100% certainty then no one could have stopped you from your choices.
@LordWhorfinX2 I"M THE ONE THAT TAKES RESPONSIBILITY, I don't fucking believe in god. I'm saying if there is a God he knows what I do before I do them so I can't be held accountable for what happens because he let me do it. The definition of free will "the power of making free choices unconstrained by external agencies" God is the External Agency, he was the one that made me born, therefore he is the one that made me do it because he knew exactly what would happen good or bad.
@chesterdjester Just because someone knows you'll do something isn't the same as they made you do it....lmao..
If you are so responsible, then why aren't YOU feeding those starving little african kids? You sound very selfish.....it's been all about YOU so far, hasn't it?
@LordWhorfinX2 I never said I was responsible, but you aren't either. And yes, it is the same thing, if some one points a gun at my head and tells me to do something they are making me do something. God always is influencing my head 24/7 if he is omniscience, he programmed me to do a certain action before I was born because there is no other way I can live life. I can't go back and change anything because God willed me to live how I live by his existance.
@LordWhorfinX2 Actually, 93% of the scientific community are atheist/agnostic, and believe the same as I do. It's a philosophical argument, not a fact. There are people who agree with me, and then there are people who agree with you. The difference is people who agree with you don't actually look into the definition of free will and the problem of a monotheistic god. If there is a perfect being it has no free will, because it knew what it was going to do ahead of time and can't change that.
@LordWhorfinX2 Praise be to [God], who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he[a] predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves.”
Ephesians 1:3-6 There, biblical proof of no free will.
@chesterdjester That is not proof....but take it as you may (we all know you will anyway). I find it even funnier that you atheists know the Bible so well, rather, no, you READ the Bible, it's obvious you have no idea what you read though...lmao..
@LordWhorfinX2 Let me rephrase it. Do you believe in fate? I'm really trying to help you understand my side, and why I believe it, I don't care if you don't agree, you're just being as bigoted towards atheism as muslims are to western culture. At least let me ask if you believe in Fate.
@chesterdjester Fate, never gave it any though, and I don't want to make any snap judgments on it. And "bigoted"....come on, that is just a buzz word for someone who doesn't agree. I can call YOU a bigot just the same.
@LordWhorfinX2 I'm ok with being a bigot because I think anyone who believes in any god is fucking stupid. But the point is the Bible talks about Fate a lot more than it talks about free will, and Moses, Isiah, Ezekial all HAD to Follow fate because god directly gave them an order. In a world with fate there can't be free will because there fate contradicts free will.
@chesterdjester So being a bigot is a compliment then? Thanks! Also, we can just end the whole thing here. You think I am a religious nut and I think you're a subhuman atheist.......there....both bigots and both with strong opinions........nothing is changing......
@chesterdjester I am not judging. I'm going by definition. And it's perfectly acceptable to judge....it's FINAL judgment that they refer to that you are thinking of. You are not to judge a person's soul....that is for God to do. But while on Earth, yeah, I'm gonna judge people. I judge people so I don't end up hanging out with drug dealers and murderers..lol.
@chesterdjester Oh, ad hominem attack from an atheist....THERE'S a new one...lol. But anyway, atheism is the most close minded way of thinking ever. I mean, really do some reflecting on your faith, yes, atheism is a faith and religion and dogma.
And yes, if atheists TRULY do not believe in God, then they are less than human. They are nothing but animals that can talk and drive..lol.
@LordWhorfinX2 Wait, are you a young earth creationist? because if you don't think you're an animal then I won this battle of wits when I was ten and heard of evolution.
@chesterdjester Young Earth? No. Evolution? Yes. When did EITHER of these become the subject???? And I'm not an animal. I have a soul. Atheists are placed on the same level as soulless animals by their own choice. And this is no battle of wits....if you need your ego stroked that badly I'll LET you have the argument because I fear that is the only reason you are continuing this talk. Want an ego boost? Go play chess with a monkey.....lol
@LordWhorfinX2 Oh, I'm sorry, I'll just not mention the few million years of evolution that is considered a scientific theory. In the same category as gravity. I won't mention how you personally fit every definition of a primate.
@chesterdjester You're right....the proof of Haeckel...oh wait....or how about Pig-tooth Man...no no....or Piltdown man.....nah, not that one either...Stanley Miller? nope...another one down the drain.....you guys aren't too good at this "evolution" stuff..lol...... do we even have a link yet? Nope, it's still just a theory with TONS of holes that people try to fill with dirty little lies ;)
I said I believe in evolution, just not HUMAN evolution.
@LordWhorfinX2 There is never going to be a link, because people like you will be like "Where is the link between that and this?" What is your explanation for the various types of Sapien's that died out but were still considered Human over Ape? Just because some people faked it for fame doesn't disprove it. Do you have proof we have souls? Maybe our conciousness is a combination of chemical reactions and nerve endings in the brain. You can't say we don't know therefore it is god.
@LordWhorfinX2 --- If you reject human evolution, please explain why some human babies are born with tails. Why do men have nipples? Why do humans have so many similar features as other primates?
I'm sure you can probably come up with multiple mind-twisting rationalizations, but the simple fact is humans evolved from other primates.
@LordWhorfinX2 --- A more important question, do you have the intellectual integrity to embrace the empirical evidence without allowing preconceived bias to cloud your judgment?
@LordWhorfinX2 There are so many intact human ancestor skulls that even the creationists can't agree where to draw the line between primitive man and intelligent ape. By dating them (through several agreeing methods) they're found within ranges that coincide with gradual change over time. Genetic evidence shows a strong relationship between man and chimp, consistent with other evolutionary relationships.
Without the bias of arrogant religious faith, no one would think they were unrelated.
@ThatOneQuestion So, you believe everything just "poofed" into existence by itself for no reason at all billions of years ago?
No nothing existed forever, then the nothing expanded really fast of it's own free will, then made matter, then the matter rearranged itself for no reason into dinosaurs....
Right, and I'M the one that needs work...LMFAO......
@LordWhorfinX2 We arn't talking about the universe, little one :) Dont knot your underwear just yet. Sounds like someone is a little insecure.
I'll take your knee-jerk reaction as a "no" to my question. Alright, kiddo, if you dont think your god poofed us into being a few thousand years ago, what happened?
@LordWhorfinX2 Holy SHIT! No wonder! HAHAHHAHAA!!! You are a VenfomFangX follower! That explains a great deal.
Man... you still follow him after he stole money from kids?
Your channel background picture also explains a few things about your misconceptions and fallacious argumentation. Most amusing. You really need more work than most would be willing to give.
@ThatOneQuestion So you believe that nothing came from nothing then made everything? ...please tell me you are joking...
You avoided the whole thing...typical atheist subhuman....doesn't understand how to even simply debate.....but then again, you think you are a monkey relative...lol
@LordWhorfinX2 Oh you silly, silly child. No I dont believe in your strawman, kiddo. You Theists made that up, and all it does is make a fool out of you, for all your trouble.
Its funny you are too frightened to answer my simply question, though. Your own faith is too magical for your own liking, it seems, or it embarrasses you too much. That is telling.
*yawn* Yet another Theist afraid of their own religion.
Say, LordWhorfinX2, if you like strawmen, lets give you one:
You believe in the Cosmic Jewish Zombie who sacrificed itself to itself to satisfy a problem of its own making by its own creations, despite it being all powerful and all knowing. Now, you worship this bloody god of death by practicing metaphoric cannibalism as you eat its body and drink its blood.
How was that, kid? Are you a cannibalistic death cult member?
@ThatOneQuestion You're pathetic (and obviously uneducated and mean spirited) description of Christianity in general can only lead one to realize you are a simple person filled with hate and bigotry. I feel sorry for you.
And to answer your question, yes! God Almighty Created the Heavens and the Earth! I'm still waiting on YOUR explanation..lol
Come back when you understand Faith and religion. You apparently ahve no education so I won't pick on you.
@LordWhorfinX2 Its not a description of Christianity, kiddo, its a strawman, like I said. It isn't legitimate and I even went so far as to tell you that before hand, just like your "nothing from nothing" fairy tale was.
You didn't answer my question, coward. I see you are still too frightened to give a straight answer.
Its funny how you say I should come back when I have an understanding of faith and religion, yet then make a statement about education... now THAT is amusing.
And now you outright lie to my face. You are guilty of sin by breaking one of the Ten Commandments set down by your god.
I asked you what happened, and you replied with "MAGIC MAN DUN IT!" in just about those exact words.
And as for your NEW question about the universe-I dont have a clue, kiddo, no one does, really. We can make educated guesses based on what evidence we have, but we havn't even been beyond our own moon yet.
@LordWhorfinX2 Why do Christians look down on animals, they have the same basic survival instict as us and feel pain as we do. Why shouldn't I have compassion and hold animals up with us?
I really am sick of that, so what Christians are better than animals, gays, women, Muslims, Wiccans ohhh wait Christians are just better than everyone right?
@MarilynFilth Look down on them? I respect them, but they are FOOD. And gays, Muslims, Wiccans...etc etc....... why are you trying to put words in my mouth? I never said that.
I have compassion for animals but God gave us dominion over animals to use as we see fit.
@MarilynFilth No, just the ones with a microphone.. at least the ones with a microphone WANT you to think that. The rest of us, well, we typically despise them.
Most younger Christians have nothing in common with the bigotted older ones, and neither do a fair number of the older ones, which you alluded to (by using the words "muslims" and "gays" etc...). We're ashamed of them.
@VibrationsDrawn The thing is, the younger Christians are "cool" because they're not actually paying attention to their religion. They're acceptable to non Christians because they don't live as Christians should, so they're non threatening. If everyone were HONEST, we would just drop the veil and stop pretending to be Christian when we really don't give a damn what the Bible says. Better to not respect the young pseudo-Christians because they are being the most dishonest of them all.
The younger Christians out there definitely have their faults, just as their predecessors do/did.
For instance, we have a very bad habit of falling into the "Make Love, Not War" crowd because we were raised in a post-modern society. We try too hard to please instead of attempting to understand what the Bible & the Old Testament tells us
"Love your neighbor" is what it means to be a Christian, but we often times mistreat different views because of falling into the aforementioned crowd.
@MarilynFilth why do NON- christians look down on christians? we arent all the same. i for one, am tired of being lumped into a group of people where SOME are just going through the motions, and arent really ACTING and LIVING the christian way, like their religion says they should.
yes, some christians, (some catholics specifically) are all for show but YOU are being closed minded...and people like you are the reason ALL christians have a bad rep. there are still good christians out there.
@MarilynFilth Ouch I'm offended!!! I'm a Christian and i treat everyone equal gay, black, white, Muslim... doesn't matter. I accept people for who they are!!!
@MarilynFilth Actually Muslims believe they are better than everyone, and they are far worse at it than Christians (even though I agree Christians do believe they are better than some) but Islam is far more arrogant.
@LordWhorfinX2Not my question. Which if you read the comment that it was a reply to, you'll realize that it was humor. You just "barked at a joke", as they say.
@LordWhorfinX2 "Hey, faggot, I DID answer your question..."
Ohhhhh now you reveal yourself to be a homosexual bigot too!
Tell me, frightened little boy, why are you Theists always obsessed with male genitalia? Through out all my years dealing with angry, insecure people like you, YOU GUYS always bring up male genitalia first.
How does sexual preference influence the accuracy of a point on an intellectually level, little one?
So... what, if I like to press my genitalia against an Armadillo, does that mean I'm wrong in what I say about your points in an intellectual conversation?
Okay... so, now, if I have a breathtaking night of sexual pleasure with someone of the same sex, does that mean my points about your understanding of the universe are suddenly wrong?
Think, little angry Theist. Use your "god given" brain. Dont be such a mindless and angry sheep like all the rest.
@ThatOneQuestion I called you a faggot.......please show me where, previous to this comment, where I mention the word "Genitalia". Please....I'd love for you to try that.
And being 100% against homosexual actions is being a "bigot"...lol....then go ahead....call me a bigot... :)
And it has nothing to do with the argument..... I just simply wanted to call you that...(it obviously bothers you to write two large comments about it though) O.o
Yes, you displayed your bigotry by using that word. You were using it in common derogatory means; an expression of anger and frustration. What is the significance of the word? Its your attempt to use some shame on another, by calling them an "abomination", at the root of all things, because you were told that homosexuality is a bad thing by your religious leaders.
The act of sex requires genitalia, kiddo-didn't you know that?
Thanks for having the manhood to admit you are a bigot.
You are against homosexuality merely because you were told your religion doesn't like it. By calling me a "faggot" out of anger, when you have absolutely no knowledge what my sex is, who my significant other is, how I practice my sexual actions, etc etc, you are obviously just an angry child trying to use big words for their "shock value" to illicit an emotional response.
God is man-made. DEAL WITH IT.
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i find it quite interesting how some humans let the flaws of organized religion compel them to sever themselves from the Creator.
Look into the stars my fellow humans, look at the planet Saturn and truly ask yourself, can i let go of "God"?
lnfoWARSdotCom 4 months ago
When a man wants to beat a dog, they say he can always find a stick to do it with. And when a man wants to find excuses for not believing in Christ, he can always
discover one somewhere or other. Fools!!!
kidcalifornia009 4 months ago
@kidcalifornia009 That was awfully constructive and kind of you. Thank you for sharing your deep wisdom.
MidgardEagle 4 months ago
@kidcalifornia009: u should read about pagan holidays and greek and roman mythology all of which came waaaaaaaaay before the bible. u'll see, what's in the bible was copied from everything that came before it!
devlishanjel13 2 months ago
To the delusional people who are gonna come up with stupid comments about how god exists, ask your self this, does santa exist? Do Zeus, Poseidon, and Aphrodite exist?? nope. why? because they are made up supreme beings of which there are books and whatnot about them, but absolutely no evidence they exist. So is god; made up, has stories about him. But no kind of proof. wawa waaaaaah.. So god does not exist.
JeffreyRegistre 4 months ago
@JeffreyRegistre : God does exist. I have seen His power at work with my own eyes. He loves you.
SummerSunshine1988 3 months ago
@SummerSunshine1988
Santa does exist. I have seen his power every Christmas morning with my own eyes. He loves you if you've been a good boy or girl. ;-)
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The atheist is, morally, as well as mentally, a fool, a fool in the heart as well as in the
head; a fool in morals as well as in philosophy. With the denial of God as a starting
point, we may well conclude that the fool’s progress is a rapid, riotous, raving,
ruinous one. He who begins at impiety is ready for anything. “No God,” being
interpreted, means no law, no order, no restraint to lust, no limit to passion.
kidcalifornia009 5 months ago
@kidcalifornia009 boy are you delusional. sooooo, without a huge dick head telling you he will burn you, you will be terrible?? wow. delusional.. god doesn't exist.. does Zeus exists? do unicorns exist? nope. neither does god. enough already.... you're the fool.
JeffreyRegistre 4 months ago
@kidcalifornia009 Reality disagrees with you, unfortunately.
MidgardEagle 4 months ago
"I made sure you ate a piece a cake that day."
lololol
oywidapoodles 5 months ago
I just saw "God said. 'Ha!'" two days ago and Julia is an exquisite storyteller! I'm a huge fan of her now...and even more so now that I know she's agnostic or atheist. Go girl!!
redball81 6 months ago
@ruflychux Please take time to visit this website to get the FULL TRUTH about her covering one only -> nairaland . com /nigeria/topic - 420989.96.html
ruflychux 6 months ago
And hence why I call you all, SHEEPLE. MOST of you can NOT even interpret this picture she used. Noticed how she partly covered one eye? HA! YOU SHEEPLE.
Google image "one eye illuminati". IT IS NOT A COINCEDENCE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS ONE EYE THING. I feel like SMACKING YOU ALL AWAKE... JESUS, YOU SHEEPLE ARE ASLEEP.
ruflychux 6 months ago
Age of reason... the day you quit reason ?
tilemacro 7 months ago
ALL RELIGION SUX! GET OVER IT!
jdetuncq 7 months ago
I love how atheist always think they know all, and that they are better then everyone. And have to rub it in their faces. What hypocritical pricks. Agnostic>Atheist! Bitches. haha
Vrait 7 months ago
@Vrait I love how theists transform into trolls when they see something that chalenges their faith.
haha
tilemacro 7 months ago
Mentally sick people. You can reason with God all you want once you are face to face with Him.
rsmrtiddles 7 months ago
13 people go from house to house and want to talk about god with you xD
GoldenCrusader93 8 months ago
enjoy the funny part
this show will soon get really sad
GoldenCrusader93 8 months ago
atheism ftw!
GoldenCrusader93 8 months ago
Love this monologue. The whole show is thought-provoking. The only bad thing is that tons of atheists are so bloody angry all the time. Just because I am not sure of God doesn't mean I want to beat everyone else's faith into dust. I think it also takes a former Christian to really understand what Julia's even talking about.
SeMaHaSa 9 months ago
I was fortunate enough to hear her do this live and I also bought the video to share with friends. March 20-26, 2011, is "A" week, when atheists are encouraged to come out of the closet and stand up for the truth that a person can be "Good without god." Some of us are putting an "A" in as our Profile picture for the week.
Jyshrii 11 months ago
March 20-26, 2011, is "A" day, when atheists are encouraged to come out of the closet and stand up for the truth that a person can be "Good without god." Some of us are putting an "A" in as our Profile picture for the week.
Jyshrii 11 months ago
her father was an idiot
DEEJAYRIG 11 months ago 4
The lies exposed. Fantastic monologue.
cutes22 1 year ago
★★★★★
Katalyzt 1 year ago
There is a difference between being non-religious and being anti-religious. Just as there was a difference between MLK and Malcolm X.
Keysteeze 1 year ago
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God does exist.
SummerSunshine1988 1 year ago
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I am the way the truth and the life,
and the only way to the father is through me john 14:6,
God so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten son,
so that who so ever believe in him,shall not perish,
but shall have everlasting life john 3:16
,we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God romans 3:23,
we are saved by grace ephesians 2:5,you must be born again,
I am talking about a spiritual birth john 3:3
thebigkahunaful 1 year ago
Those who deny the facts, embarrass themselves. I think we should respond to the outrageous clams of the zealots, without engaging them. We should respond by engaging those who are not sure what to believe by explaining to them how fact-based science is the only way we can make sure progress in our understanding about the world we live in, and admitting our ignorance in the areas that we have no data or working theory is far better than deluding ourselves into thinking we know things we don't.
scruffyexaminer 1 year ago
The result of telling kids little white lies... you make us atheists. XD
JaguarEscarlata 1 year ago 59
Good content...philosophocally its correct.....This is the reality of what is the prime essence of becoming a biblical con-person...
Excellent.
alanhussey 1 year ago
look at her eye isnt it sign for "all seeing eye" just saying
MrEbatti 1 year ago
Her real birthday is tomorrow!
NotZeMaidOfOrleansFV 1 year ago
I still can't figure out if she's a man or a woman....JUST KIDDING! Julia we love you!!!!!!!!
ChuckyJesus666 1 year ago
Why would a Catholic spell her name with "Sweeney" and not "Sweeny"?
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35 Because Catholics can't spell, they're stupid.
thegriffin88 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35 I'm just glad that her middle name is not Sweeney while her last name is "Todd."
ChuckyJesus666 1 year ago
She swiped her "age of reason" act from a little musical production called "Do Black Pattent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up?"... almost word for word; age 7, the sister, "permanent record".
ShawnsterVideos 1 year ago
@ShawnsterVideos said "almost word for word; age 7, the sister, 'permanent record'" Sorry, she didn't "swipe" the age of reason concept from a play; she was TAUGHT it as part of her religious training, just like, I'm sure, the authors of your "little musical production" (LOL) and every other kid who ever made their First Holy Communion. There are plenty of comedy routines based on Catholic school memories. Good for you for knowing ONE, but it doesn't mean all the others "swiped" from it.
ivyshoots 1 year ago
@ivyshoots Ivy, I typed "word for word" you typed "concept"; 2 different points.
Please see a production of Do Black Patent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up, then report back to us. You'll agree that Julia swiped the words almost verbatim.
Whether she was taught the concept, or whether it is one of many "comedy routines based on Catholic school memories" as you mention... I don't really give a fuck. My point is her plagarism
Lastly, If you want people to take you seriously never type "LOL".
ShawnsterVideos 1 year ago
@ShawnsterVideos LOL
ivyshoots 1 year ago
"Come Unto Me all who labor and are weary with the cares and concerns of life, I Myself will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and Learn of Me, for I am Gentile and Humble in heart and YOU WILL FIND rest for your souls, for My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
You see that, "You will find.." statement? Thats a very loud and clear and definitive statement. So, keep on believing that its NOT true, yet it is.
He never lies about that.
The problem exists WITHIN people in relation to HIM.
MySunshineNora 1 year ago
@MySunshineNora i totally agree . maybe if she found the holy spirit it would answer her confusion . i did enjoy listening to her though .
cinnamongirlx1 1 year ago
@MySunshineNora
Numbers 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.
--So you say your relation to these guys is.. good? Where do you live again exactly? Just for the police to know where they find their delusional, mentally retarded murderer.
d3st88 1 year ago
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MySunshineNora 1 year ago
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All she is doing is relating bad experiences in her Catholic upbringing. How that translates to disbelief in God is amazing. People just love this stuff. When they find "disbelievers" they gravitate like the pack of lost, angry, empty souls they act like and then attack those they never met who DO have faith in the God WHO IS THERE TO HAVE FAITH IN.
When atheists are all alone, after they leave their empty "comments" they are left with emptiness, fears, worries, anxieties, hatred, no hope
MySunshineNora 1 year ago
@MySunshineNora So how far did you get into this two hours long show before you gave up? Five minutes:D?
"When atheists are all alone, after they leave their empty "comments" they are left with emptiness, fears, worries, anxieties, hatred, no hope"
Yeah. You go on believing that:=).
MidgardEagle 1 year ago
@MySunshineNora I don't think it's fair to remove your comments. I do however think that the emptiness you wish to ascribe to people who think about things rationally is naive. You view the world through a religious eye. The eye that rational thinkers see the world through is far more open than you give them credit for. Hope (and all other emotions you mention) does not rest in the faithful alone. When you say 'all she is doing" you miss the point entirely. It is the religious that have fear.
worktosser 1 year ago 2
@MySunshineNora Riiiiight. I mean wroooong.
NickRoeder 1 year ago
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MySunshineNora 1 year ago
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All she is doing is relating bad experiences in her Catholic upbringing. How that translates to disbelief in God is amazing. People just love this stuff. When they find "disbelievers" they gravitate like the pack of lost, angry, empty animals they act like and then attack those they never met who DO have faith in the God WHO IS THERE TO HAVE FAITH IN.
When atheists are all alone, after they leave their empty "comments" they are left with frustrations, fears, worries, anxieties, hatred, no hope
MySunshineNora 1 year ago
I just realized that my "She'll be forgotten in a generation or two"... was not very appropriate.. I'm sorry for saying it so harshly. I meant no disrespect. No, I don't agree with her, but she's saying what a lot of people feel, and has every right to express her beliefs, and how they came about.
I have little or NO use for organized religion, but I am a Christian. I'm 63, I didn't come to my beliefs overnight. Please except my apology to Julia for a harsh and uncalled for remark.
Randy
netguider 1 year ago
Whether she'll be "forgotten" has nothing to do with the validity of what she says. Basing thought on popularity is how the religious think and how the absurdity of religion is perpetuated - a process of social pressure and brainwashing, in many cases both past and present under threat of violence for failure to proclaim acceptance of the fairy tale. Well, of course the whole linchpin for Xtian belief is you'll be eternally tortured if you don't get onboard.
WordOfTheLivingLie 11 months ago 11
@WordOfTheLivingLie : jews alienate u and call u a gentile...now u know where racism started. ;) (that's coming from someone with jewish parents btw so dear jews who read this don't get ur panties up in a bunch!)
christians say well it's either the jesus way or the hell way regardless of how much of a good person or bad person u r! Nice adverstisement, don't u think?! =)
muslims say it's either mohammed or i'm gonna stick a double edged sword into ur gut and twist it or blow u up!!!
devlishanjel13 2 months ago
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netguider 1 year ago
I respect her beliefs...don't agree with them...but that's fine... others have found what she says to be totally untrue... Funny how we can experience the same things, and have totally different reactions. Two people can look at a stock, read about it, study it... one can't wait to buy it... thinks it's the next Microsoft. The other, same information, can't wait to dump it. She a fine speaker, will influence a lot of people... will be forgotten a generation or two... sorry...
netguider 1 year ago
@netguider Why do you think she'll be forgotten? Simply because you don't agree with her? Her story is very moving and one that shouldn't be cast aside simply because you don't agree; if anything, this proves you should have another listen to get more out of it. She's a fantastic example of goodness without religion, and saying she'll be forgotten simply for not being is pretty disrespectful.
TorridPassion 1 year ago
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@netguider "Funny how we can experience the same things, and have totally different reactions" - Nothing mysterious about it - if your entire intellectual frame of reference has been warped to not hold reason and reality as the ultimate standard, then you'll be more likely to accept irrational absurdities, oh say like The Legend Of The Zombie Jew Carpenter Who Is His Own Father....etc. etc.
WordOfTheLivingLie 11 months ago
Talk to Complete Strangers about any religion
MalloryPowell1 1 year ago 4
I bought this show on Audible about 2 years ago. Worth every penny. I was already an atheist before, but I'd never read/heard anything about the emotional side of rejecting god, and I struggled. I was raised Christian and I was having a hard time not seeing myself as a terrible person because I couldn't believe. This monologue helped me break through all of that. It made me finally realize and accept that I am not a terrible person for not believing in god.
Eternity29 1 year ago
So few of us take this journey,
never mind share it with the world.
Brava
PrimoPot2010 1 year ago
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this woman is a typical cynical and sarcastic atheist.....what a failure.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I think you need to get a sense of humour.
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
@WillShakespeare2007 So does this loser, she isn't funny in the slightest ....poor little subhuman...
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 No one is "subhuman" and it is a term usually used to excuse genocide. So no humour, no empathy - not much for human virtues then?
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
@WillShakespeare2007 Without God you cannot be fully human. If you are a true atheist you are just another dumb animal and subhuman.
And to inject the "genocide" thing there is pretty low. Presumptuous and ignorant.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 No it is accurate. The term subhuman has been historically used to excuse slavery and genocide. You need to learn to treat your fellow man as equals without the hatred in your heart. “The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.” JC. Your words speak volumes about what is truly in your heart.
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
@WillShakespeare2007 The term has been used, blah blah blah......atheists are still subhuman and I will treat them accordingly.
And JC speaks perfect things, maybe atheists should listen instead of mocking Him.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I think you really need to consider these words - "the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.” JC. And in response to your last comment -
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
I am afraid your words and actions do not agree with the one you claim to respresent. You must let the hatred out and let love into your heart.
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
@WillShakespeare2007 If you are an atheist, these words mean nothing and you are just an evil little subhuman trying to be manipulative........I'm not surprised though.
I am doing EXACTLY as I would have others do unto me! :) I am telling you there IS a God.
Sorry, you lose kid.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I lose? I was unaware that there was a competition. So you are saying you would have others treat you as subhuman. This is what you do unto them - treat them as subhuman, so you must wish for them to treat you as subhuman. This is the only conclusion that can be drawn. So others must lose and you must win and the others are subhuman? Is that the essence of your personal belief system because this sounds nothing like Christianity to me.
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
@WillShakespeare2007 I treat you as I want to be treated.....I'm telling you there is God. If I didn't believe in God, I should be treated like a subhuman....if I were a criminal, I should be treated as such, etc etc...... it's pretty easy to understand. I'm not surprised that you cannot grasp such a simple concept.
You don't know anything about religion so why do you pretend to know anything about Christianity?
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” I would think this was pretty easy to interpret. What you seem to read this as is "decide others are lesser than you and then persecute them." Treat others as yourself - simple. As I say you can follow your own belief system but please do not claim these evil beliefs are Christian. Christianity is a religion of peace and love not hatred. I think you must be following some sort of pagan religion - perhaps a Roman god?
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
@WillShakespeare2007 LOL! Keep it up, you're making me laugh here! Shows what you know..... I love and pray for everyone, but it doesn't change the fact that atheists are pathetic.... :D
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 why are atheists pathetic? All atheism is, is the stance that there is no god. People who make generalizations like that are pathetic.
Nat3skiz 1 year ago
@Nat3skiz no, they are just correct!! there is a big difference!
CigarStudLasVegas 1 year ago
@CigarStudLasVegas I hope I am :D
13Azzinoth37 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 You should respect atheists, they're smarter than you.
NickRoeder 1 year ago 38
@NickRoeder ROFL!! LOL!!!! Are you KIDDING me?! LMFAO!!!! Subhuman atheists are pathetic......
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
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@LordWhorfinX2 Again, they're smarter than you.
NickRoeder 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2: You mean, pets (cats & dogs) that don't believe in god, tend to inspire pity and/or sympathy? O.k., but, what about the FUNDIE pets? And wouldn't that be a survival trait?
mowgli2071 1 year ago
@mowgli2071 Animals do not have souls. They are food. They are here for us to use as we see fit. We were given domain over the Earth and animals.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I'm sorry no one told you when they told you Santa wasn't real, but God is fake too.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester gotcha.....can you prove that? I mean, really...please prove to me that atheism is correct.
Sure there is no REAL Santa in a flying sleigh.......but the myth is still based off a real person so....didn't he really exist at one point? Eh, no matter,,,
Just prove that atheism is correct. Please. I'm not asking you to prove there is no God.....so don't pull that "prove a negative crap".
Let's see if you can actually do it.........
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 okay, I can't prove that there is no god, but I also can't prove there isn't a tea pot in an elliptical orbit around the sun and those have the exact same probability of truth. So by using reasoning skills I believe there is no teapot orbiting the sun and that there is no god, because of probabilities.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Wow, just an atheist parrot regurgitating what your prophetic leader Dawkins says...lmao.....can't you idiots think for yourselves?!
There, you cannot prove there is no God nor can any of you prove atheism is correct nor can any of you tell me what it would take to convince you of God's existence......just keep dodging everything...lmao
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 first, make sure Dawkins said it when I say it, because I quoted Bertrand Russel. And it would take a being fixing all problems in the world and then showing himself for me to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he exists.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Fixing "all" problems? But what you might see as a problem another person might actually like it. Some people thing being gay is a problem whilst others think it is just fine. And people would doubt even if God came to your doorstep and said "Hi, I'm God". So what you suggest wouldn't work. It wouldn't work because you don't WANT it to work. You don't WANT there to be a God.
And I have heard Dawkins say the teapot thing plenty of times......
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Even if it was god and I was sure it was god assuming it was the biblical god. I would call him a dick and tell him to leave my house, and it's not about all problems I meant all real problems, war world hunger violence. Stuff everyone disagrees on.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester That's a mature response....call God a dick...lol. And there is not one single thing on this planet that EVERYONE can agree on. Some people think those wars are a good thing.
So you are still wrong. And seeing as how you say you would STILL call God a dick even after you KNOW it is really Him, it only shows your petty anger and immaturity.
And you CANNOT give one example of something that EVERYONE ON EARTH agrees on.....it's a sheer impossibility.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I would call god a dick for hundreds of reasons. Why do starving children in Africa die when fat bastards with porsches have heart attacks and live? Here is biblical proof god can suck a dick; Judges 21:10-24, Numbers 31:7-18, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, Deuteronomy 22:28-29, 2 Samuel 12:11-14, Leviticus 25:44-46, Luke 12:47-48, Deuteronomy 17:12, Exodus 21:15, Proverbs 20:20, do you want more reasons? the list can go on.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Have YOU gone to Africa to feed the hungry? You obviously have FAR more money than they do because you are using a computer. So if anyone is the "dick", it's you. And those fat bastards have issues and problems of their own. You honestly think hunger is the ONLY issue on Earth?! Get a clue. It's atheists like you that are the problem, blaming a God you say you don't even believe in when you yourself do NOTHING to help....
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 If there is a God then why do I have to? It is effortless for God to make everything better. And if there isn't a God why does responsibility fall to me? And since this is anonymous how do you know I haven't done anything? Also if there is no god there are many ways of helping the world, just because I don't go to africa and free people doesn't mean I'm not in college learning how to preserve humanity. I'm working on a degree in Computer Engineering in Aerospace, thats me.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Did you expect your parents to go to school for you? Do you expect other people to do everything for you? No (well, I hope not at least). If God did everything for us, then there is no real freedom. Even if He made one exception, people would argue that since He did one thing for one person then He should do other things for other people. And since you aren't personally going to Africa, then it really isn't that important to you, you're in school.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Freedom and belief in god is an Oximoron. If there is a god there can be no freedom, he is all omniscience, he knows that I'm going to hell before I'm born, therefore HE damned me to hell. He knew those children were going to die being pecked at by birds because HE is in the future and the past at the same time. HE Knew Hitler would kill jews and let it him be born anyways, so HE condemned Hitler to hell, not Hitler. Unless god is NOT all powerful then it is HIS fault.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester You couldn't be more wrong. God IS freedom. We have free will to do whatever we want. It's like watching a video of your life, you had all the freedom in the world to make your choices, only God has seen this tape. If you understand the basics of temporal mechanics this would be a layup for you. You have free will, God already knows what you are going to do, it's STILL your fault because YOU made the choices!
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 HE knew I would with 100% certainty that I would do atrocity (A) there for me being born and me making that choice means it was predetermined even if I feel I was the one who did it. If anything outside of my personal conciousness knows with 100% certainty anything I'm going to do before i do it, then it was predetermined.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Yes, YOU predetermined it with your choices...lol. No one told you to do anything. God didn't force you to do anything. And if it is 100% certainty then no one could have stopped you from your choices.
Just give it up. Take responsibility.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I"M THE ONE THAT TAKES RESPONSIBILITY, I don't fucking believe in god. I'm saying if there is a God he knows what I do before I do them so I can't be held accountable for what happens because he let me do it. The definition of free will "the power of making free choices unconstrained by external agencies" God is the External Agency, he was the one that made me born, therefore he is the one that made me do it because he knew exactly what would happen good or bad.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Just because someone knows you'll do something isn't the same as they made you do it....lmao..
If you are so responsible, then why aren't YOU feeding those starving little african kids? You sound very selfish.....it's been all about YOU so far, hasn't it?
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I never said I was responsible, but you aren't either. And yes, it is the same thing, if some one points a gun at my head and tells me to do something they are making me do something. God always is influencing my head 24/7 if he is omniscience, he programmed me to do a certain action before I was born because there is no other way I can live life. I can't go back and change anything because God willed me to live how I live by his existance.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester If you act this stupid in aerospace class, the planes of the future will be falling from the sky....lol
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Actually, 93% of the scientific community are atheist/agnostic, and believe the same as I do. It's a philosophical argument, not a fact. There are people who agree with me, and then there are people who agree with you. The difference is people who agree with you don't actually look into the definition of free will and the problem of a monotheistic god. If there is a perfect being it has no free will, because it knew what it was going to do ahead of time and can't change that.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Stick to aerospace because theology and temporal mechanics are way above you...lol.
And you little statistic is HIGHLY flawed. Go watch Expelled with Ben Stein to see what I mean....the whole movie is about what you claim.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Praise be to [God], who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he[a] predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves.”
Ephesians 1:3-6 There, biblical proof of no free will.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester That is not proof....but take it as you may (we all know you will anyway). I find it even funnier that you atheists know the Bible so well, rather, no, you READ the Bible, it's obvious you have no idea what you read though...lmao..
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Let me rephrase it. Do you believe in fate? I'm really trying to help you understand my side, and why I believe it, I don't care if you don't agree, you're just being as bigoted towards atheism as muslims are to western culture. At least let me ask if you believe in Fate.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Fate, never gave it any though, and I don't want to make any snap judgments on it. And "bigoted"....come on, that is just a buzz word for someone who doesn't agree. I can call YOU a bigot just the same.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I'm ok with being a bigot because I think anyone who believes in any god is fucking stupid. But the point is the Bible talks about Fate a lot more than it talks about free will, and Moses, Isiah, Ezekial all HAD to Follow fate because god directly gave them an order. In a world with fate there can't be free will because there fate contradicts free will.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester So being a bigot is a compliment then? Thanks! Also, we can just end the whole thing here. You think I am a religious nut and I think you're a subhuman atheist.......there....both bigots and both with strong opinions........nothing is changing......
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I didn't say it was a compliment, I was saying I fit the definition. And it's not very Christian to judge some one as subhuman.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester I am not judging. I'm going by definition. And it's perfectly acceptable to judge....it's FINAL judgment that they refer to that you are thinking of. You are not to judge a person's soul....that is for God to do. But while on Earth, yeah, I'm gonna judge people. I judge people so I don't end up hanging out with drug dealers and murderers..lol.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Fucking christ... you people are probably the most closed minded hard headed hypocritic ignorance praising people in the world.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Oh, ad hominem attack from an atheist....THERE'S a new one...lol. But anyway, atheism is the most close minded way of thinking ever. I mean, really do some reflecting on your faith, yes, atheism is a faith and religion and dogma.
And yes, if atheists TRULY do not believe in God, then they are less than human. They are nothing but animals that can talk and drive..lol.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Wait, are you a young earth creationist? because if you don't think you're an animal then I won this battle of wits when I was ten and heard of evolution.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester Young Earth? No. Evolution? Yes. When did EITHER of these become the subject???? And I'm not an animal. I have a soul. Atheists are placed on the same level as soulless animals by their own choice. And this is no battle of wits....if you need your ego stroked that badly I'll LET you have the argument because I fear that is the only reason you are continuing this talk. Want an ego boost? Go play chess with a monkey.....lol
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Oh, I'm sorry, I'll just not mention the few million years of evolution that is considered a scientific theory. In the same category as gravity. I won't mention how you personally fit every definition of a primate.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@chesterdjester You're right....the proof of Haeckel...oh wait....or how about Pig-tooth Man...no no....or Piltdown man.....nah, not that one either...Stanley Miller? nope...another one down the drain.....you guys aren't too good at this "evolution" stuff..lol...... do we even have a link yet? Nope, it's still just a theory with TONS of holes that people try to fill with dirty little lies ;)
I said I believe in evolution, just not HUMAN evolution.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 There is never going to be a link, because people like you will be like "Where is the link between that and this?" What is your explanation for the various types of Sapien's that died out but were still considered Human over Ape? Just because some people faked it for fame doesn't disprove it. Do you have proof we have souls? Maybe our conciousness is a combination of chemical reactions and nerve endings in the brain. You can't say we don't know therefore it is god.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 --- If you reject human evolution, please explain why some human babies are born with tails. Why do men have nipples? Why do humans have so many similar features as other primates?
I'm sure you can probably come up with multiple mind-twisting rationalizations, but the simple fact is humans evolved from other primates.
FUCKyourGODmyth 1 year ago 2
@LordWhorfinX2 --- A more important question, do you have the intellectual integrity to embrace the empirical evidence without allowing preconceived bias to cloud your judgment?
FUCKyourGODmyth 1 year ago
@FUCKyourGODmyth no answering a question with a question, subhuman
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 There are so many intact human ancestor skulls that even the creationists can't agree where to draw the line between primitive man and intelligent ape. By dating them (through several agreeing methods) they're found within ranges that coincide with gradual change over time. Genetic evidence shows a strong relationship between man and chimp, consistent with other evolutionary relationships.
Without the bias of arrogant religious faith, no one would think they were unrelated.
JoesephKatana 1 year ago 3
@LordWhorfinX2 So... you believe humans poofed into being by a Magic Man a few thousand years ago?
Ohhh... you arn't a bright one if you are using the old "its just a theory" line. Man, you need a lot of work, kid.
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@ThatOneQuestion So, you believe everything just "poofed" into existence by itself for no reason at all billions of years ago?
No nothing existed forever, then the nothing expanded really fast of it's own free will, then made matter, then the matter rearranged itself for no reason into dinosaurs....
Right, and I'M the one that needs work...LMFAO......
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 We arn't talking about the universe, little one :) Dont knot your underwear just yet. Sounds like someone is a little insecure.
I'll take your knee-jerk reaction as a "no" to my question. Alright, kiddo, if you dont think your god poofed us into being a few thousand years ago, what happened?
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Holy SHIT! No wonder! HAHAHHAHAA!!! You are a VenfomFangX follower! That explains a great deal.
Man... you still follow him after he stole money from kids?
Your channel background picture also explains a few things about your misconceptions and fallacious argumentation. Most amusing. You really need more work than most would be willing to give.
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@ThatOneQuestion So you believe that nothing came from nothing then made everything? ...please tell me you are joking...
You avoided the whole thing...typical atheist subhuman....doesn't understand how to even simply debate.....but then again, you think you are a monkey relative...lol
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Oh you silly, silly child. No I dont believe in your strawman, kiddo. You Theists made that up, and all it does is make a fool out of you, for all your trouble.
Its funny you are too frightened to answer my simply question, though. Your own faith is too magical for your own liking, it seems, or it embarrasses you too much. That is telling.
*yawn* Yet another Theist afraid of their own religion.
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
Say, LordWhorfinX2, if you like strawmen, lets give you one:
You believe in the Cosmic Jewish Zombie who sacrificed itself to itself to satisfy a problem of its own making by its own creations, despite it being all powerful and all knowing. Now, you worship this bloody god of death by practicing metaphoric cannibalism as you eat its body and drink its blood.
How was that, kid? Are you a cannibalistic death cult member?
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@ThatOneQuestion You're pathetic (and obviously uneducated and mean spirited) description of Christianity in general can only lead one to realize you are a simple person filled with hate and bigotry. I feel sorry for you.
And to answer your question, yes! God Almighty Created the Heavens and the Earth! I'm still waiting on YOUR explanation..lol
Come back when you understand Faith and religion. You apparently ahve no education so I won't pick on you.
Take care and God Bless.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Its not a description of Christianity, kiddo, its a strawman, like I said. It isn't legitimate and I even went so far as to tell you that before hand, just like your "nothing from nothing" fairy tale was.
You didn't answer my question, coward. I see you are still too frightened to give a straight answer.
Its funny how you say I should come back when I have an understanding of faith and religion, yet then make a statement about education... now THAT is amusing.
Silly child.
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
Oh yes, and may the Flying Spaghetti Monster warm you with His Sauce!
May His Noodly Appendage rest on your shoulder, always!
R'Amen.
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@ThatOneQuestion A straight answer on what?! I answered your question.
You subhumans always play little word games. Lol.
Tell me then, WHERE does the Universe come from if not from God? Tell me what created everything. Please....enlighten me, monkey boy.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 "I answered your question."
And now you outright lie to my face. You are guilty of sin by breaking one of the Ten Commandments set down by your god.
I asked you what happened, and you replied with "MAGIC MAN DUN IT!" in just about those exact words.
And as for your NEW question about the universe-I dont have a clue, kiddo, no one does, really. We can make educated guesses based on what evidence we have, but we havn't even been beyond our own moon yet.
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Why do Christians look down on animals, they have the same basic survival instict as us and feel pain as we do. Why shouldn't I have compassion and hold animals up with us?
I really am sick of that, so what Christians are better than animals, gays, women, Muslims, Wiccans ohhh wait Christians are just better than everyone right?
MarilynFilth 1 year ago 24
@MarilynFilth Look down on them? I respect them, but they are FOOD. And gays, Muslims, Wiccans...etc etc....... why are you trying to put words in my mouth? I never said that.
I have compassion for animals but God gave us dominion over animals to use as we see fit.
You sound very bitter and angry. Why?
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I sound bitter and angry because I think that everything on this Earth has the right to life?? um ok?
MarilynFilth 1 year ago
@MarilynFilth No, just the ones with a microphone.. at least the ones with a microphone WANT you to think that. The rest of us, well, we typically despise them.
Most younger Christians have nothing in common with the bigotted older ones, and neither do a fair number of the older ones, which you alluded to (by using the words "muslims" and "gays" etc...). We're ashamed of them.
VibrationsDrawn 10 months ago
@VibrationsDrawn The thing is, the younger Christians are "cool" because they're not actually paying attention to their religion. They're acceptable to non Christians because they don't live as Christians should, so they're non threatening. If everyone were HONEST, we would just drop the veil and stop pretending to be Christian when we really don't give a damn what the Bible says. Better to not respect the young pseudo-Christians because they are being the most dishonest of them all.
SeMaHaSa 9 months ago
@SeMaHaSa
The younger Christians out there definitely have their faults, just as their predecessors do/did.
For instance, we have a very bad habit of falling into the "Make Love, Not War" crowd because we were raised in a post-modern society. We try too hard to please instead of attempting to understand what the Bible & the Old Testament tells us
"Love your neighbor" is what it means to be a Christian, but we often times mistreat different views because of falling into the aforementioned crowd.
VibrationsDrawn 9 months ago
@MarilynFilth why do NON- christians look down on christians? we arent all the same. i for one, am tired of being lumped into a group of people where SOME are just going through the motions, and arent really ACTING and LIVING the christian way, like their religion says they should.
yes, some christians, (some catholics specifically) are all for show but YOU are being closed minded...and people like you are the reason ALL christians have a bad rep. there are still good christians out there.
cuzitwasgood 9 months ago
@MarilynFilth Ouch I'm offended!!! I'm a Christian and i treat everyone equal gay, black, white, Muslim... doesn't matter. I accept people for who they are!!!
ForrestUzumaki 6 months ago
@MarilynFilth Actually Muslims believe they are better than everyone, and they are far worse at it than Christians (even though I agree Christians do believe they are better than some) but Islam is far more arrogant.
SuperFifthwheel 6 months ago
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@LordWhorfinX2 if you want I can give you at least 3 other examples of the Bible talking about predeterminism.
chesterdjester 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2Not my question. Which if you read the comment that it was a reply to, you'll realize that it was humor. You just "barked at a joke", as they say.
mowgli2071 1 year ago
@NickRoeder No, they're subhuman....
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Thats funny-crying to someone who posted 2 months ago rather than address the point that you didn't answer my question.
Damn kid, just wow. How frightened are you?
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@ThatOneQuestion Hey, faggot, I DID answer your question...pay attention.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 "Hey, faggot, I DID answer your question..."
Ohhhhh now you reveal yourself to be a homosexual bigot too!
Tell me, frightened little boy, why are you Theists always obsessed with male genitalia? Through out all my years dealing with angry, insecure people like you, YOU GUYS always bring up male genitalia first.
How does sexual preference influence the accuracy of a point on an intellectually level, little one?
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
So... what, if I like to press my genitalia against an Armadillo, does that mean I'm wrong in what I say about your points in an intellectual conversation?
Okay... so, now, if I have a breathtaking night of sexual pleasure with someone of the same sex, does that mean my points about your understanding of the universe are suddenly wrong?
Think, little angry Theist. Use your "god given" brain. Dont be such a mindless and angry sheep like all the rest.
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@ThatOneQuestion I called you a faggot.......please show me where, previous to this comment, where I mention the word "Genitalia". Please....I'd love for you to try that.
And being 100% against homosexual actions is being a "bigot"...lol....then go ahead....call me a bigot... :)
And it has nothing to do with the argument..... I just simply wanted to call you that...(it obviously bothers you to write two large comments about it though) O.o
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 "I called you a faggot"
Yes, you displayed your bigotry by using that word. You were using it in common derogatory means; an expression of anger and frustration. What is the significance of the word? Its your attempt to use some shame on another, by calling them an "abomination", at the root of all things, because you were told that homosexuality is a bad thing by your religious leaders.
The act of sex requires genitalia, kiddo-didn't you know that?
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
Thanks for having the manhood to admit you are a bigot.
You are against homosexuality merely because you were told your religion doesn't like it. By calling me a "faggot" out of anger, when you have absolutely no knowledge what my sex is, who my significant other is, how I practice my sexual actions, etc etc, you are obviously just an angry child trying to use big words for their "shock value" to illicit an emotional response.
You want that negative attention, dont you?
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
LordWhorfinX2, this shows me you arn't here because you are interested in anything but expressing your anger/frustration/insecurity. Awe, poor kid.
Did you have your hand down your pants when you called me a "faggot"?
No, it didn't have anything to do with the argument, kid. Or... should I call you Captain Obvious? Would that get you off easier?
And actually no, it homosexuality doesn't bother me. I am captivated by two women making passionate love together. What bothers me is you.
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
@ThatOneQuestion Bigotry....eh...call it whatever you want. I don't hate gays....just their actions. Get that straight, kid.
And yes, it IS an abomination. And I wasn't told by religious leaders, it is common sense......they should know how the pieces fit :)
You have yet to answer my question still, though... ;)
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 "I don't hate gays....just their actions. Get that straight, kid"
You silly child, you can rationalize it and justify it away all you want, but you cant hide from me.
"it is common sense"
Then why is it found in "lower" animals all the time? The only thing unnatural in our culture is religion.
"You have yet to answer my question"
I answered that, kiddo. If you actually read my comments, you would have seen it. I dont know, simple as that. Do you? Oh... Magic Man dun it?
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago