@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z You've got a bit boring now, mate. And I think you ARE about 12 yrs old...seems like it. You basically lost your argument about only having the fans after we got rich. And the rest of what you're saying is complete bullshit. You're probably not even from Manchester or near.
@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z Average home attendance 2003-4; 46,834, average home attendance so far this season; 46,953. So yeah, you're right..it's an increase of 119. You fucking prick..check your facts before you start spouting off shit. Oh..and woopi fucking woo..is that the best you've got? hahaha...how old are you ? 12? .I don't give a shit if Etihad translates into "you're a complete knobhead" ..we're top of the league and you're NOT. We beat you..no .FUCKED you proper style, 6-1. At YOUR your ground!
@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z haha..you know fuck all. the average attendance at eastlands is the same as it was when we first moved there. FACT. oh..and why are you watching a vid about Man City fans if you don't support them...are you a troll?
Man City are a joke. They bring in so many players, there is no team co-oridnation. Everybody hates each other, including the manager. They only care about the Money.
Nice to see all these rags using the same old one liners. The point of this vid is the real fans in Manchester are City fans. I'm sure if you hadnt been humiliated by barca all the southerners,paddys,yanks and japs would of made the trip! CTID
Fuck Man City. How many strikers do you guys need to win the premiere league. Just goes on to show how pathetic and insecure man city really are. Cunts hahahahaha
@MrAndyqwerty so what? we are still playing good football and winning trophies every season. Fuck barca. They are the best team right now. But they can be beaten. And stop sucking on barca's dick all the time. Yes they beat us easily, but that doesnt mean we suck.
@HUmadsenzz Coming from London and furthermore, not having any vested interest in this, i must say that Man uniteds trophy parade was shamefull compared to city's. Bet then as you say, it is the 19th league title they have won so it may just be a case of "another season, another premiership title won, nothing special." Also, remember that united were feeling down from just losing the champions league final too so you cant really blame them for the low turnout parading the league title.
I was in the city centre the day city won the fa cup. Hundreds of cops were on duty in piccadilly waiting for the celebrations. After about an hour there were approximately 10 city fans there, so the cops just left!
Sky Sports carried out a survey for Soccer AM when Tim Lovejoy was still presenting it to test this myth. The result? Almost two thirds of Mancunians are Reds!! FACT!!!
Now stick that in your FA Trophy Shield thing or whatever the fuck it's called and drink it!
@MrSillyFecker ''I was in the city centre the day city won the fa cup. Hundreds of cops were on duty in piccadilly waiting for the celebrations. After about an hour there were approximately 10 city fans there, so the cops just left!''
thats because most of us were at Wembley you stupid twat. We don't watch it at home like you red cunts do
I'm not arsed what Man U have won or City have won ' nor crowd debates etc !
AS a kid in the 70's I went to both to get tokens from dropped programs but Liverpool and Leeds were the better teams then ' Leeds were a great team in fact to watch ' but I could never get a buzz a old trafford it was Maine rd and City that give me that buzz it was nothing about winning or the media putting Utd on the back page it was just knowing that feeling this is my club and team and that was it '
man city fans worry utd glory seekers because they are something they will never be through thick and thin we stand proud of our club, how many utd ,s feral fans would stick by the club if they had not won anything for 35 years. we must be one of the most loyal and well respected fans in the country and you know you would just jump ship and follow someone else if the going got really bad well we don,t.
man city fans worry utd glory seekers because they are something they will never be through thick and thin we stand proud of our club, how many utd ,s feralfans would stick by the club if they had not won anything for 35 years. we must be one of the most loyal and well respected fans in the country and you know you would just jump ship and follow someone else if the going got really bad
hulksmash so i do you explain city being one of the best supported teams prior to the arab money let me guess you,ve been a red for let me see, twenty years just another glory chaser.
hulksmash so i do you explain city being one of the best supported teams prior to the arab money let me guess you,ve been a red for let me see, twenty years just another glory chaser.
David gill said at the commons select commitee utd have three and half billion fans world wide. Manchester holds around half million so any red fans living in manchester mean nothing to the club.
@kiannicole1 because man united are not in manchester they are in greater manchester so therefore cant start at the town hall the had to start somewhere else x
@mufcdarren1 have you seen your " grammar " on your youtube profile, grammar of a 5 year old! people like you make me sick! being racist behind a keyboard I dare you to say that to someone's face!
It's crazy to compare the clubs from a historical perspective as united have had so much more success and a richer history but the exciting thing is the future and how a debt ridden united will face the challenge of a cash rich city, no wonder city fans are excited, good luck to them from a united fan looking forward to a more intense rivalry to come..
@Liam2621 only because beckham was around and because asians really really really love him the asians probably made up a lot of the numbers and i bet that only about 50,000 of them were real fans 80,000 at the most
And for us Reds being obsessed the irony is in this video! After 35 years without a trophy a video is made of the parade but guess what it as to have a reference towards Manchester United...that's what I call obsessed! Wish I could be a Citeh fan so I could have that trendy look you's all have you know the replica shirt that never looks like it as seen a washing machine because it is never off your backs! Comedy fans for a comedy club!
@MrScrewface17 I think you'll find that it was United fans that cast the first stone in this pointless parade pissing contest - they couldn't wait to bag on City's parade the other week when they might have been better holding off another few days and seeing how many turned up at United's parade. That's one of the reasons why this vid was knocked up - to remind those reds not to jump the gun. I wouldn't call that obsessed (although I'll admit we can be) - more a case of giving a bit back.
@chriswelsh96 United the first team in Manchester 1878 is Newton Heath in Manchester? And old Trafford as a M postcode does it not?...@claudiosanchez our ground is never packed unless it's derby day? You will find it's the other way around mate go and check the average attendances for both clubs! And over 100'000 at the FA cup parade hahahaha the head of GMP said there was around the 50,000 Mark 10,000 outside the town hall and how many was there inside the ground? Deluded liars!
@MrScrewface17 Having a 'M' postcode means nothing. Glossop has a Stockport postcode yet is in Derbyshire as opposed to Cheshire. Half of Lincolnshire has a Doncaster postcode. The Isle of Skye has an Inverness postcode yet is 80-90 miles west of Inverness.
Also, Newton Heath wasn't part of Manchester in 1878. You talk of City fans being "deluded liars" but it's amazing how many reds know so little about Utd's history and think they can get away with "winging it" when asked a question about it
claudio sanchez you are a grade A knob ! the tiny minority of utd fans that come from manc are ever indian or fucking polish ! not English ! FACT ! away and dry your eyes ! manchesters blue and its only gonna get more blue . your time is up , oh and BARCA :))) city !
@chriswelsh96 Hmm and i suppose uve personally met every united fan in manchester and r speaking this as fact, not opinion eh. Christ some people. Was there really any need for u to get personal. Im a knob because i say something u dont agree with, right. Still i guess its not surprising with people like u.
PS- glad the barca game made ur day. If a game that doesnt even involve ur team brings u so much joy, then all there is to say is have fun, ur life must be a laugh a minute.
jees, someone sent me this link but i couldn't help notice all this. who has the time to write all this nonsense?! I'm a city fan and i'm not biased about anyone's comments, you're all very silly boys!
Footage of Uniteds parade before it started..the bus on chester road which is like a dual carriage at that section!..this is why we call blue nose's LIARS Manchester united have more season ticket holders with a M postcode most of city's in SK postcode..Manchester as a population of 750,000 and city can not fill a 45,000 stadium? do the maths blue nose's and which city supporters club takes the most to the games ladies n gents? reddish branch Stockport!!! Manchester is RED CHAMP19NS!
@MrScrewface17 Exactly what ive been saying all along, but they dont want to listen. Cold hard facts show that we have just as many reds in manchester as there blue, but facts mean nothing it seems. They cant fill their own stadium and yet they still believe manchester is blue. Madness, still if it helps them sleep at night then so be it.
Omg! This is hilarous! I am just sat here laughing! I was in that stadium waiting for them to get there! It just makes me laugh knowing the fact that if they were true united fans they would go and respect there team by going to see the cup but no they are not from manchester so they cant do that! There name should be Salford United, This is good, keep it up keeping putting them on! I will be checking, Lol.
Look MrMontana, you've been spamming this comment page for days, a comment page which is clearly for a city video, so that's where the obsession factor comes in. Keep banging on about your history, you sound just like the scousers and you berate them for doing it.
@ModelsAndMortals How many comments have i made? 10? Hardly spamming. I only came on here as i saw it on the main youtube page and came on to see what its about. I havent been coming on berating ur club per se, indeed i had a civilised discussion with EASTLANDS as i wanted to hear from certain city fans why it is they continued spouting on about how manchester is blue, when evidence shows otherwise. If ive simple come on to make that point, and that point alone, then how is that an obsession.
@tonymontanna4united You are still showing how worried and obsessed you are about us. Face facts...Manchester IS blue...132k at our parade 38k at yours - figures from Manchester police. that's because your fans DONT LIVE IN MANCHESTER
@mancityy1789 Why am i worried by ur club? Because u have money and claim ur going to win everythin? Hmm heard that b4 from a club in west london and didnt exactly come true. Again im yet to get a response to this, please answer me how can manchester be blue when eastlands is never full. 20k empty seats against juventus, more when u played notts county. R u all armchair fans on the blue side of manchester or something? Please just answer me that, as that is all i want to know.
@ModelsAndMortals I merely wanted to hear a genuine response from the city fans as to how they came to this conclusion. I have nothing to be obsessed about ur club, as an obsession with usually insinuates you are infatuated with something. I get everything i need from my club thank u very much. As for this history remark, erm it was in reponse to a city fan. I merely pointed out that we are very proud of our history, including our achievements preceeding 1990 as a city fan wrongly stated, not me
but you never talk about United - you just keep trying to diss MAN CITY. YOU ARE BESOTTED WITH US. I don't blame you mind....we are the best loved club by true SUPPORTERS as opposed to REMOTE fans. If you keep looking at our web site you'll enjoy it. I know it makes you secretly sick to read about us.....you can't sleep for writing and thinking about us......but as I keep saying WE DON'T GIVE A TOSS ABOUT YOUR CLUB....so you are very sad
@mancityy1789 But am i even talking about ur club? Am i talking about ur success on the field or ur money? No, i didnt even come for an argument, as i never tried to describe ur club in a derogatory manner did i. I came on, as ive explained about 10 times, to have a discussion about the facts, and why it is city fans try to claim manchester is blue, despite the fact the facts show otherwise. Thats all. Im not interested in whats goin on on the pitch, ur the 1 whose spoken about that, so dont
@mancityy1789 put words into my mouth. And again id love to know, exactly what do united have to be obsessed or besotted about with ur club because id love to know this. Its the city fans who cannot stop going on and on and on and on about how manchester is blue. If united mean nothing to u why feel the need to keep coming out with it. To confirm to urselves that manchester is blue? Hmm
Let's be honest. Manchester City will never be as famous as Manchester United. The damage is done. History can't be undone. United will always mean football history, passion, worldwide fame, class, 350 million fan base. City will always be means a poor second, with a couple of trophies.
@mancityy1789 And i suppose the 7 league titles, 7 FA cups, 1 european cup, and the 9 community shields all won before 1990 dont count eh. Please point out where any united fan ever claimed our history started from 1990 onwards. The man before simply said we have a history u cannot match. Judging by what we won even before our dominance started and what weve won since, what exactly is wrong with the mans statement
PS didnt realise 1 FA cup meant the beginning of a bright future (eyes rolling)
Keep on talking about City, like all the other reds....we love it. Even your most famous 'banner' was about us. You're obsessed with City. Where do you live by the way....were you one of the few at the parade????
@mancityy1789 Wow am i reading this right? A bitter is accusing a united fan of being obsessed. You couldnt make it up :) What exactly would i be obsessed about ur club eh? Am i envious of your long illustrious history and the countless trophies youve won? Your state of the art stadium? Your top class fan base who struggle to fill your stadium most weeks? Your right mate, i am most definitely obsessed by the wonder that is manchester city.
@tonymontanna4united As I have already said....keep on talking about us and how bad our support is, how bad our ground is, how we've got no history, how we have no fans.....it's all in your mind...you keep churning out what you read in the press.......get over us....we are here to stay and WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR TEAM but you sure as hell are worried about ours....
@mancityy1789 Why do i need the read the papers to see your club has won about 10% of our club has won in its history. Why do i need the press to tell me u barely sell out ur ground when i see it myself on tv checking the scores/highlights. For the record i never said ur support is awful, i just said u r hyprocrites trying to claim manchester is blue when ur stadium is never full. Worried about ur team, why? Cos u have money, means f a, if u do succeed tho ill wholeheartdely congratulate u tho.
As I have already said and this is the last time I am going to say it...we love our club DESPITE not having your history - not BECAUSE of it.....I can only suppose that if your club didn't have a 'history', you wouldn't be on here now.......
@mancityy1789 Give me strength. For the last time, i never once mentioned our history. I only brought it up after a city fan tried to make out that united have only had a history since the 90s. I never tried to turn this into a "whose best" argument, i only ever came on here to ask where it was these manchester is blue sayings come from and have a discussion about said topic. It is the city fans who have mentioned history, the future etc not me, i havent mentioned history, or on field matters.
@mancityy1789 I dont doubt u love ur club, i know city are passionate about their club as my mate is a big city fan and he too loves the club. I have no doubt u will probably go on and rewrite ur own history in the next 20 years, so im not saying anything here. If u do go on tho and win the CL, PL etc u will undoubtedly be proud of ur achievements tho, just look at pool they cant shut up about theirs. So a history is just something to be proud of and look upon, but i wasnt the 1 to bring it up
@ClaudioSanchezCC Well assuming that figure of us having that number of fans worldwide is true, it would be a little difficult to fit 350 million fans into manchester wouldnt it (eyes rolling). Maybe u should be more concerned about the fact that ur stadiums are never full (except of course when u play united). Ur all local aswell arent u, manchester is blue afterall isnt it, and yet u cant even fill ur stadium most games. Armchair fans if ever ive heard of it.
You do a lot of eye rolling.........they keep rolling towards Eastlands....do you watch us all the time because you seem to have lots of statistics on us. No idea how many 'fans' your team has because I don't care. You just can't match our devotion to our team whatever the situation we find ourselves in. Judging by your parade, your fans would melt away if you were less successful.....but whatever, get this,,,,,we really don't care about you. We just love ourclub
@mancityy1789 Not at all but id rather use stats and evidence to back up an opinion rather than just continue coming out with the same shit that has been proven is false. Your devotion to ur club is outstanding btw. Where else would u see stadiums half empty on such a regular basis. All at the same time as stating manchester is blue. The "cockney massive" make the effort and yet u local blues cant be arsed to get to eastlands to show your "devotion" to ur club. Sad.
@tonymontanna4united Weve filled our stadium every premier league game this season :L To be honest ive never seen Old Trafford totally packed except for Derby games either.
How can you call us armchair fans? Our victory parade we had over a hundred thousand people lining the streets of manchester? how many were at yours? 20 to 30 thousand at best! saying that though 3/4 of your fans cant speak english so its difficult for them to know how to get to the parade :/
@ClaudioSanchezCC OT has been full consistently the last 20 years, and i dont think even other city fans would deny that. They just try to claim its full becos of the glory hunters, but still to claim its not full here is just desperate on ur part. As for eastlands, how many empty seats did u have against juventus. Notts county etc? Half the stadium atleast. If manchester is blue and u all live close to eastlands why couldnt u be bothered to fill it. Thats why i claimed u were armchair fans.
@ClaudioSanchezCC How many fans were there for the 99 treble celebrations? 500k. But they were all glory hunters right.
Yeah well when uve got 300 million fans world wide, it would be hard for them all to fit into manchester and speak english wouldnt it (eyes rolling). But anyway i see city are expanding in the arab countries trying to gain support over there. But they wont be glory hunters will they, manchester city dont have them afterall.
@ClaudioSanchezCC Oh come on mate, lets not get into this. OT has been full for as far back as i can remember. We regularly used to get 40/50k when we were down in the 2nd division in 74, so lets not try and make out thats only come about the last 20 years.
Many of the 500k are season ticket holders, and thats the problem here. I have said all along its certainly neck and neck in regardsto whose red/blue in manchester, but most city fans cant see that. We had just as many ST subscribers with a
@ClaudioSanchezCC manchester postcode as city did. Its there in black and white, its not on the say so of rival fans. I cant say how many people there were for the parade, as they were rather low key. Yes ill admit that. But theres bound to be more outfor city liftin their first cup in 35 years, than there is with us who win something most years. Yes that sounds smug and arrogant, but u may well see that at city for urself if u go on to achieve what ur saying u will do. The number were
@ClaudioSanchezCC disappointing and i admit that, but u get full attendences at OT, carling cup or PL/CL, we get crowds following us away in europe too and weve got just as many manc united fans as ST holders as city.
Im just sayin what i heard, that city were hoping to attract worldwide fans, was even apparently on a city website. If u do go on to dominant and we become the also rans, can we then claim u have the gloryhunters and u bought the league, like u did with us?
Who are you trying to convince.....you sound very worried. Good to see you talking about City all the time though.....could give a toss about your team
stadium, then why do so few show up. Surely if as alot of the city fans claim, united fans are all cockneys, it shows that a large majority of the city boys are armchair fans who cant be arsed to make the short trip to eastlands, whilst the cockney massive make the 200+ mile trip to see united?
As i say, its always struck me manchester has always been 50/50. Theres alot of blues, but theres also a hell of alot of reds. Glory hunters r just part and parcel of being a successful side, as u may
It's over for the rags, get used to it Trafford boys cause I've had ur fun and now it's our turn, let's all laugh at the jokers who turned up on sunday! Lol 6,000 in Manchester ha ha ha massive club, city had 100,000 in town and a full stadium , pt
@OURCITTY Is the bane of ur existence to spend ur life worrying about what united r doing, and ur obsession of taking over? Youve won a FA cup ffs, and u spent £350m to get that. Most of the players youve spent that on have been crap wastes of money, and ur now saying its ur turn to start dominating (massive face slap).
PS- Lol half the stadium empty when u were playing juventus in the europa league with tickets going for a fiver, massive club (eyes rolling).
@tonymontanna4united That's not really true mate - there were 33,000 at the Juventus home match and only about 900 of them were Juve fans. Tickets for that match were £30 for adults or £50 if you bought as a package along with the Lech and Salzburg matches.
It's worth remembering that City's support base is only a fraction of United's and as such we don't have tens of thousands of fans to take up the slack if some of our season ticket holders decide to sack off a cup game.
Old Trafford Highest EVER Gate. 76, 962, Wolves v Grimsby,MASSIVE. NEVER had a rich owner. At a time when transfer fees were still around the £1,000 mark, the cost of construction of O.T only served to reinforce the club's "Moneybags United" epithet, with which they had been tarred since Davies had taken over
And Another
Gibson injected around £40,000 more funds into the team during the Great Depression,.
He funded the rebuilding of the stadium & funded the youth policy.
Dont matter what team you support, you'd have to be pig thick not to realise the power is already shifting in manchester. about time too in my opinion. oh by the way didnt city beat barcelona at the camp nou not so long ago ?
@suffolknwatt Based on what? The fact city have shit loads of money, that they won the FA cup? The power balance will have shifted when they overtook our trophie record, no sooner. For the record, much as i hate to admit it, yes they do have a good looking future. They can buy who they want, their stadium will soon be redeveloped, its happy days for them. But chelski and liverpool to a lesser extent have shown that means nothing, success is never a right, it has to be worked for over many years
@tonymontanna4united The balance of power hasn't shifted, more like the gap between the 2 teams is closing quickly. However, I don't think you can say it won't have shifted until we've matched Utd's trophy haul - if you had 2 or 3 trophy-less seasons but we won quite a few then that would be a fair indicator of a power shift surely? As it is, I don't subscribe to this "Utd are fooked" line that some trot out. You'll still be challenging and winning things but you won't be quite as dominant.
@EASTLANDS70 The gap has definitely closed, and will continue to imo and i have never denied that. I put a great empathise on history and believe it is on the trophies won over a period of time that u judge a side. We just overtook pool as the most successful league team, so there is now no denying we are the undisputed top dogs. We were still head and shoulders tho above say chelski even when we went 4 years without a trophy, so imo u will need long term successful to truly shift the power.
@suffolknwatt So to say the balance has shifted, is a bizarre statement right now. United may well be on the way down (i believe they are personally and it pains me to say it) but all citys money doesnt mean squat. They have to work for it like everybody else, and buy wisely. They havent done that imo apart from about 7-10 good signings the rest have been garbage. Even if they do win stuff in the future, they need to do that regularly over the next 20 years to even be considered close to us.
It's true ' 20 k ' crowds fell for most clubs even threw the red mist crowds were low hence the piss poor league ' Sky came along and pushed the premier league too what it is now City meanwhile as usual were topsy turvy but teams like Oldham ' Blackburn even Norwich was in top 6 ' LOL great league a bit like the Scottish premier at the time
@dgreenfrog That was probably more to do with the fact that they got rid of standing on the terraces and the game went to the bastard businessmen who came in and jacked up the prices 10 fold (at every club).
As for the state of the league, you can only beat what is in front of u. Liverpool throughout their dominance in the 70s and 80s, never got a real challenge from us, leeds were decent but not great, chelski were a cup side as were city. Not much competition there but ignore that why dont u
@mufcdarren1 slap ur self for that comment . an how typical of a united fan to not live in manchester lol if u came down to manchester with those bull shit statements not only would u get fucked up by a black guy but a white guy too for being so ignorant and close minded .
Could somebody please tell Tom Benson that I'm sorry for what I said earlier and that I'll buy him Ten Benson silver if he comes round to my bedsit in Moss Side and shoves a 35 inch replica of Foes black schlong straight up my well worn shit pipe! Cheers!
I'd like to apologise to young Tom for making completely unfounded accusations against him on this video! I guess I'm just a right thick cunt!! In fact, I'm so profoundly stupid you could probably sell me a pair of my own socks for £1976 quid...
There's barely 2,000 in that video clip. GMP verified around 5,000 in Deansgate. There were twice that many on Princess Street. Stop trying to justify it, no-one believes it and no-one cares anymore. get over it.
LOL ' hey I don't mind listening too Manchester U fans from Manchester who go to matches ranting on etc ! but I remember UTD only getting 20 odd thousand a game before the league went piss poor in the mid 80' s and 90's !
@dgreenfrog 20k. Really? Ive never ever seen or heard of OT having less than 40k capacity, and those were for cup games anyway. Always for league games going back to way since the 40s the evidence proves weve always had among the best attendence in the league so dunno what ur on about tbh.
And PS why did the league go piss poor mid 80s early 90s? Was it because the scousers dominance was coming to an end and united were coming to the fore, so as to downplay our achievements? Just asking.
Can i just point out aswell here, as i know u city supporters seem to have a psychotic obsession and hatred towards all things united, that not once have i resorted to childish name calling nor referring to your club in a derogatory manner. I have just responded to fans who are claiming us reds are cockneys and gloryhunters. If anyone wants to respond to my points then fine, i welcome it, im just not interested in responding to childish posters who resort to name calling and "munich" remarks.
get off your high billion-pound horse city and face the facts
united have more support, no we are not all glory hunters and the f.a cup im afraid is not something to gloat at united with, neither is buying tevez off us. Get real, the city is not yours and it sadly never will be
@PhillipsBenjamin When did we buy Tevez off you? Obviously are a gloryhunter, cos most people know facts about their football club, especially as recent as that. PLASTIC!
@PhillipsBenjamin just got back from Cyprus and watched Barcelona in their triumph ' half of the pub in Utd tops ' so in my walk of faith I asked at least 20-25 lads in utd tops where they were from and most was from east Anglia and a few from Dorset ' 4 irish men and only 3 was from Manchester thats why the city is ours
@dgreenfrog So the City is yours because of some shite that went on in Cyprus? Do you know that when I go on holiday,when waiters ask me who I support,I just say 'Manchester' and they go 'oh,Manchester United!'. Most don't even know that there's two Manchester clubs.
@Tom7Benson yeah, well, whenever I go on holiday the taxi drivers always say to me, " you're from Manchester? really? wow! mcfc! jeff whitley, danny mills, paul dickov, those guys are true legends of the game."
...then again I do take my holidays in Stockport so make of that what you will!!
@dgreenfrog yet city who had a europa league game to a huge club like juventus (something u dont see too much of) ur ground is only half full. I mean manchester is blue afterall isnt it, u all live round the corner from eastlands, so why were so few of u at that game? Or the notts country game? Or most PL games that arent against united when u see thousands upon thousands of empty seats.
@dgreenfrog Doesnt it reflect badly on ur support that ur fans dont seem bothered making the short trip to eastlands and yet the "cockney massive" united fans are willing to travel so far for an unimportant carling cup game against the mighty wolves. Are all city fans armchair supporters who cant be arsed to go out and support their side? Kind of shows u up by that logic, dont u think?
@dgreenfrog Its funny when i made a comment how uniteds attendance has always dwarfed that of citys since the 40s and how u were barely half full for your games against juve, notts county etc i didnt get an answer. As a seemingly intelligent city fan can u please answer that for me. Why is it that our support has always been higher than ours, including years before our dominance in the 90s. Why it is that a carling cup game against wolves on a wednesday sees 50k united supports yet city
@tonymontanna4united Ok, I'll answer it as best I can - before WW2 City's crowds were consistently higher than Utd's. Immediately after the war, City were in Div 2 and Utd Div 1. As such Utd were getting the bigger crowds - this carried on into the 50's as Utd along with Wolves were the best 2 teams in the country and both were averaging similarly big crowds. The air disaster resulted in an outpouring of national sympathy and this helped guarantee Utd would continue getting big crowds.
@EASTLANDS70 First of all mate, ill just say thanks for responding to my posts in a calm dignified manner. No muncih bashing or getting over personal even tho our clubs and fans dont get on, so respect to u there for the way uve replied to my points. I honestly havent come on here to start a war between our clubs, i just honestly wanted to know where these manchester is blue rumours come from. Bein a manc born and bred ive always found it to be 50/50 so ive never got where thats come from
@tonymontanna4united Im only going by what i saw on the tv, and a good mate of mine who happens to be a city fan, whose admitted himself the numbers u get at eastlands are a joke at times. Ur stadium is about a 45k seater if im correct, and yet u only sold 30k seat to juve a massive side. Come on mate, thats not a good showing especially in a europa league match is it? Especially when the old manchester is blue statement is used none stop. If it is indeed blue, and city fans all live near the
Anyway im not having a go at ur club, i could name u 5 clubs i hate more than urs in particularly the cockney sides and the scousers but there u go. I just wanted to give my 2 cents in regards to the manchester red blue divide, because as far as ive seen, it sure as hell isnt the big divide as some like to make out.
@tonymontanna4united Manchester isn't blue of course - it's just a wind-up that most blues use. A bit like United fans and the "All City fans come from Stockport" line. You say 50-50 in Manc itself but honestly if you knocked on every door in Manc I reckon more would say they followed United than City (not that I'd class all of them as true fans). This is a result of your success and City's bad form over the past 20 years - City seem to have lost a generation of Manc fans these past 2 decades.
@EASTLANDS70 Onto ur 1st point, ur right the munich tradgedy obviously had an effect. I dont think we milked it as some have said, but theres no doubt we got the crowd in our corner for a long time afterwards. As i say tho i will never deny ur club has a massive following, however this manchester is blue stuff is bollocks. Its backed up that the number of season ticket holders from manchester at both clubs are about even. Yes we have our glory hunters but we cant help that. If ur club r one day
@EASTLANDS70 as successful as ur hoping ull see this first hand. Indeed it was even big news a few days after ur FA cup win that on a city website u were saying u were looking forward towards gaining a large gloabl following. The glory hunters will always go where the success is. The same twats that fit this category were there in the 80s with the scousers, there when chelski came about (the number of chelski shirts i saw up north was a joke) and it happened with us. One day it may happen 2 u 2.
I mean its a long hard trip to get to manchester from london on a wednesday night for a little carling cup game isnt it. Still by your logic those "london" reds are obviously better supporters than you "loyal local mancs" who barely fill half a stadium during your european campaign which u havent seen too much of. The cockneys afterall came up in their droves for such a game whilst u locals who live just around the corner from city, couldnt get to the game. Armchair fans at their best :)
@sillyjumbledupshit With a 45k capacity you only have 25k tickets available for sale? Im very much aware of the cup ticket scheme at united, it was a complete rip off the parasite glazers brought in to much dismay. Before though, anyone tries to claim the 50k we saw attend for the wolves game i talk about attended just to get good tickets for league games, i ask u to look at our current ticket waiting list. Its all but gone. Fans are boycotting tickets in their numbers so i dont buy that theory
If united are just made up of glory hunters then why is it during these dark times, our support still dwarfed that of citys. Why is it on a wednesday night for a carling cup game against wolves made up of uniteds reserves (therefore not much of a spectacle) OT is still attended by over 50k reds. Yet city play a side like juventus (still a big european team) in the europa league this year with tickets going for a fiver, and you only just fill half of your available capacity. Seems weird.
Can i just ask, and i dont even ask this in a patronising manner, how it is most of the city fans come to the conclusion manchester is blue, when the facts (you know something you can actually use to add weight to an opinion) show that since the 40s, manchester united have had greater attendences than city. That includes the 60s were city and united were pretty much equals and the 70s when united were at their lowest at for a season, in the old division 2.
united are a joke.
04h239 3 months ago
@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z fucking hell, you're boring. zzzzz
Salfordbluemoon 3 months ago
@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z What...your local marbles club? Does your mum know you use language like that?
Salfordbluemoon 3 months ago
@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CLUB...they need it.
Salfordbluemoon 3 months ago
@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z You've got a bit boring now, mate. And I think you ARE about 12 yrs old...seems like it. You basically lost your argument about only having the fans after we got rich. And the rest of what you're saying is complete bullshit. You're probably not even from Manchester or near.
Salfordbluemoon 3 months ago
@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z Average home attendance 2003-4; 46,834, average home attendance so far this season; 46,953. So yeah, you're right..it's an increase of 119. You fucking prick..check your facts before you start spouting off shit. Oh..and woopi fucking woo..is that the best you've got? hahaha...how old are you ? 12? .I don't give a shit if Etihad translates into "you're a complete knobhead" ..we're top of the league and you're NOT. We beat you..no .FUCKED you proper style, 6-1. At YOUR your ground!
Salfordbluemoon 3 months ago
@XxM3NT4LN1NJ4z haha..you know fuck all. the average attendance at eastlands is the same as it was when we first moved there. FACT. oh..and why are you watching a vid about Man City fans if you don't support them...are you a troll?
Salfordbluemoon 3 months ago
fuck the blue moon.
hulksmash05 3 months ago
1-6 BLUE MOON RISING
lukew441 4 months ago in playlist Liked
Shirt numbers 1-99 are already taken what number will Nasri be wearing?
magoo0510 5 months ago
Ya if United had had a trophy drought that long we would have packed the streets as well.
iluvzcod 6 months ago
Man City are a joke. They bring in so many players, there is no team co-oridnation. Everybody hates each other, including the manager. They only care about the Money.
hulksmash05 6 months ago
@hulksmash05 No team co-ordination? Errrr, okay then. Makes you wonder how good City will be when we start gelling lol.
EASTLANDS70 4 months ago
@EASTLANDS70 I wrote that comment 2 months ago,
hulksmash05 4 months ago
@hulksmash05 Even so, you were getting ahead of yourself.
EASTLANDS70 3 months ago
@EASTLANDS70 just wait till May, and we will see who the fuck wins the premier league.
MUFC for Life.
hulksmash05 3 months ago
Nice to see all these rags using the same old one liners. The point of this vid is the real fans in Manchester are City fans. I'm sure if you hadnt been humiliated by barca all the southerners,paddys,yanks and japs would of made the trip! CTID
fookadook 7 months ago
because United win trophies every damn year.. not once in 40 years. simple as that u retard.
hereistand2008 7 months ago
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Fuck Man City. How many strikers do you guys need to win the premiere league. Just goes on to show how pathetic and insecure man city really are. Cunts hahahahaha
hulksmash05 7 months ago
@hulksmash05 Haven't you realised Barca have won it 3 times in the last 5 years! 4 times all together, going for 5
MrAndyqwerty 7 months ago
@MrAndyqwerty so what? we are still playing good football and winning trophies every season. Fuck barca. They are the best team right now. But they can be beaten. And stop sucking on barca's dick all the time. Yes they beat us easily, but that doesnt mean we suck.
hulksmash05 7 months ago
haha even paris st. germain can beat Man City. Stupid idiots your team sucks
SpyWizard2 7 months ago
Rot in hell Busby Babes! You fucking worthless scrotes! MANCHESTER IS BLUE!
LouisEdwardsWrongun 7 months ago
The police even said united had 3 times more than city, olay it wasnt as much as in 99 when there was over half a million but still more than city
Liam2621 8 months ago
The only real parade in Trafford is the annual gay parade.
UnknownGenius01 8 months ago 17
haha what a joke united are, you have the success, but we have the true passion, you red scum!
04h239 8 months ago
Man Utd > Man City, nuff said
hulksmash05 8 months ago
mr silly fecker yet more lies just like your club.Did you ever hear the phrase "the camera never lies"? pathetic glory hunters AKA mufc fans
nordenblue 8 months ago
mr sillyfecker well if tim lovejoy said it must be true.
kiannicole1 8 months ago
19th title its a record.... and this is what your attendance was embarrassing
HUmadsenzz 8 months ago
@HUmadsenzz Coming from London and furthermore, not having any vested interest in this, i must say that Man uniteds trophy parade was shamefull compared to city's. Bet then as you say, it is the 19th league title they have won so it may just be a case of "another season, another premiership title won, nothing special." Also, remember that united were feeling down from just losing the champions league final too so you cant really blame them for the low turnout parading the league title.
NumberDne 8 months ago
Well edited! Lol.
I was in the city centre the day city won the fa cup. Hundreds of cops were on duty in piccadilly waiting for the celebrations. After about an hour there were approximately 10 city fans there, so the cops just left!
Sky Sports carried out a survey for Soccer AM when Tim Lovejoy was still presenting it to test this myth. The result? Almost two thirds of Mancunians are Reds!! FACT!!!
Now stick that in your FA Trophy Shield thing or whatever the fuck it's called and drink it!
MrSillyFecker 8 months ago
@MrSillyFecker We were all in Albert sq and eastlands sssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhh
SuperMarioToureBros 8 months ago
@MrSillyFecker We were all in Albert sq and eastlands sssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhh
Where were you for Uniteds record parade,hmm? Oh, ok ...
SuperMarioToureBros 8 months ago
@MrSillyFecker ''I was in the city centre the day city won the fa cup. Hundreds of cops were on duty in piccadilly waiting for the celebrations. After about an hour there were approximately 10 city fans there, so the cops just left!''
thats because most of us were at Wembley you stupid twat. We don't watch it at home like you red cunts do
MCFC9161 7 months ago
Fucking. Brilliant.
theguywithoutafoot 8 months ago
tonymontanna what about the 30,000 empty seats at OT for the cup game against wolves was the M1 closed.
kiannicole1 8 months ago
I'm not arsed what Man U have won or City have won ' nor crowd debates etc !
AS a kid in the 70's I went to both to get tokens from dropped programs but Liverpool and Leeds were the better teams then ' Leeds were a great team in fact to watch ' but I could never get a buzz a old trafford it was Maine rd and City that give me that buzz it was nothing about winning or the media putting Utd on the back page it was just knowing that feeling this is my club and team and that was it '
dgreenfrog 8 months ago 4
man city fans worry utd glory seekers because they are something they will never be through thick and thin we stand proud of our club, how many utd ,s feral fans would stick by the club if they had not won anything for 35 years. we must be one of the most loyal and well respected fans in the country and you know you would just jump ship and follow someone else if the going got really bad well we don,t.
kiannicole1 8 months ago
man city fans worry utd glory seekers because they are something they will never be through thick and thin we stand proud of our club, how many utd ,s feralfans would stick by the club if they had not won anything for 35 years. we must be one of the most loyal and well respected fans in the country and you know you would just jump ship and follow someone else if the going got really bad
kiannicole1 8 months ago
@hulksmash u stated teams that win trophies (utd this year was it chelsea last year).
kiannicole1 8 months ago
thought so u still did not explain our support before the arabs came .
kiannicole1 8 months ago
hulksmash so i do you explain city being one of the best supported teams prior to the arab money let me guess you,ve been a red for let me see, twenty years just another glory chaser.
kiannicole1 8 months ago
@kiannicole1 I am a glory chaser. I only support teams that wins trophies. and man utd have been winning.
hulksmash05 8 months ago
hulksmash so i do you explain city being one of the best supported teams prior to the arab money let me guess you,ve been a red for let me see, twenty years just another glory chaser.
kiannicole1 8 months ago
Carlos Tevez hates Manchester City. He hates english football and weather. wants to play in spain or italy.
The only reason people love manchester city is becoz of the fuking money.
hulksmash05 8 months ago
@hulksmash05 fuk u u fuckin man u fan WANKER
coleygirl98 8 months ago
@coleygirl98 read the newspaper, before you swear at me.
hulksmash05 8 months ago
Shhhhh. It's oh so quiet!!
salfordcityfc 8 months ago
David gill said at the commons select commitee utd have three and half billion fans world wide. Manchester holds around half million so any red fans living in manchester mean nothing to the club.
kiannicole1 8 months ago
does anybody know why the utd gay parade never started or finished at manchester town hall.
kiannicole1 8 months ago
@kiannicole1 because man united are not in manchester they are in greater manchester so therefore cant start at the town hall the had to start somewhere else x
coleygirl98 8 months ago
@mufcdarren1 have you seen your " grammar " on your youtube profile, grammar of a 5 year old! people like you make me sick! being racist behind a keyboard I dare you to say that to someone's face!
scott08091 9 months ago
It's crazy to compare the clubs from a historical perspective as united have had so much more success and a richer history but the exciting thing is the future and how a debt ridden united will face the challenge of a cash rich city, no wonder city fans are excited, good luck to them from a united fan looking forward to a more intense rivalry to come..
evilmoke 9 months ago
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Greater Manchester Police official crowd count of the two parades..
164,000 City's Parade
38,000 united's parade........
but why let official facts get in the way of our rivalry.......;-)
'Manchester' United, a club built on lies.
BorisRagHunter 9 months ago 48
@BorisRagHunter united have 700,000 in 1999
Liam2621 8 months ago
@Liam2621 only because beckham was around and because asians really really really love him the asians probably made up a lot of the numbers and i bet that only about 50,000 of them were real fans 80,000 at the most
jrhomer100 6 months ago
@jrhomer100 i went and i hardly saw an asian
Liam2621 6 months ago
HaHa, United's parade was absolutely shite.
BorisRagHunter 9 months ago
And for us Reds being obsessed the irony is in this video! After 35 years without a trophy a video is made of the parade but guess what it as to have a reference towards Manchester United...that's what I call obsessed! Wish I could be a Citeh fan so I could have that trendy look you's all have you know the replica shirt that never looks like it as seen a washing machine because it is never off your backs! Comedy fans for a comedy club!
MrScrewface17 9 months ago
@MrScrewface17 I think you'll find that it was United fans that cast the first stone in this pointless parade pissing contest - they couldn't wait to bag on City's parade the other week when they might have been better holding off another few days and seeing how many turned up at United's parade. That's one of the reasons why this vid was knocked up - to remind those reds not to jump the gun. I wouldn't call that obsessed (although I'll admit we can be) - more a case of giving a bit back.
EASTLANDS70 9 months ago
@chriswelsh96 United the first team in Manchester 1878 is Newton Heath in Manchester? And old Trafford as a M postcode does it not?...@claudiosanchez our ground is never packed unless it's derby day? You will find it's the other way around mate go and check the average attendances for both clubs! And over 100'000 at the FA cup parade hahahaha the head of GMP said there was around the 50,000 Mark 10,000 outside the town hall and how many was there inside the ground? Deluded liars!
MrScrewface17 9 months ago
@MrScrewface17 Having a 'M' postcode means nothing. Glossop has a Stockport postcode yet is in Derbyshire as opposed to Cheshire. Half of Lincolnshire has a Doncaster postcode. The Isle of Skye has an Inverness postcode yet is 80-90 miles west of Inverness.
Also, Newton Heath wasn't part of Manchester in 1878. You talk of City fans being "deluded liars" but it's amazing how many reds know so little about Utd's history and think they can get away with "winging it" when asked a question about it
EASTLANDS70 9 months ago
people like me who support there team ! is old trafford in manchester ????
chriswelsh96 9 months ago
ment to say tonymontanna not claudio sorry m8
chriswelsh96 9 months ago
claudio sanchez you are a grade A knob ! the tiny minority of utd fans that come from manc are ever indian or fucking polish ! not English ! FACT ! away and dry your eyes ! manchesters blue and its only gonna get more blue . your time is up , oh and BARCA :))) city !
chriswelsh96 9 months ago
@chriswelsh96 Hmm and i suppose uve personally met every united fan in manchester and r speaking this as fact, not opinion eh. Christ some people. Was there really any need for u to get personal. Im a knob because i say something u dont agree with, right. Still i guess its not surprising with people like u.
PS- glad the barca game made ur day. If a game that doesnt even involve ur team brings u so much joy, then all there is to say is have fun, ur life must be a laugh a minute.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
jees, someone sent me this link but i couldn't help notice all this. who has the time to write all this nonsense?! I'm a city fan and i'm not biased about anyone's comments, you're all very silly boys!
andyl316 9 months ago
@EASTLANDS70 Manutd was made first which makes us realer
xxgzpimp 9 months ago
Footage of Uniteds parade before it started..the bus on chester road which is like a dual carriage at that section!..this is why we call blue nose's LIARS Manchester united have more season ticket holders with a M postcode most of city's in SK postcode..Manchester as a population of 750,000 and city can not fill a 45,000 stadium? do the maths blue nose's and which city supporters club takes the most to the games ladies n gents? reddish branch Stockport!!! Manchester is RED CHAMP19NS!
MrScrewface17 9 months ago
@MrScrewface17
yeah yeah....go on, keep on trying to convince yourself
mancityy1789 9 months ago
@MrScrewface17 Exactly what ive been saying all along, but they dont want to listen. Cold hard facts show that we have just as many reds in manchester as there blue, but facts mean nothing it seems. They cant fill their own stadium and yet they still believe manchester is blue. Madness, still if it helps them sleep at night then so be it.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
Omg! This is hilarous! I am just sat here laughing! I was in that stadium waiting for them to get there! It just makes me laugh knowing the fact that if they were true united fans they would go and respect there team by going to see the cup but no they are not from manchester so they cant do that! There name should be Salford United, This is good, keep it up keeping putting them on! I will be checking, Lol.
JLSAREGORGEOUS1 9 months ago
Look MrMontana, you've been spamming this comment page for days, a comment page which is clearly for a city video, so that's where the obsession factor comes in. Keep banging on about your history, you sound just like the scousers and you berate them for doing it.
ModelsAndMortals 9 months ago
@ModelsAndMortals How many comments have i made? 10? Hardly spamming. I only came on here as i saw it on the main youtube page and came on to see what its about. I havent been coming on berating ur club per se, indeed i had a civilised discussion with EASTLANDS as i wanted to hear from certain city fans why it is they continued spouting on about how manchester is blue, when evidence shows otherwise. If ive simple come on to make that point, and that point alone, then how is that an obsession.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united You are still showing how worried and obsessed you are about us. Face facts...Manchester IS blue...132k at our parade 38k at yours - figures from Manchester police. that's because your fans DONT LIVE IN MANCHESTER
mancityy1789 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 Why am i worried by ur club? Because u have money and claim ur going to win everythin? Hmm heard that b4 from a club in west london and didnt exactly come true. Again im yet to get a response to this, please answer me how can manchester be blue when eastlands is never full. 20k empty seats against juventus, more when u played notts county. R u all armchair fans on the blue side of manchester or something? Please just answer me that, as that is all i want to know.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@ModelsAndMortals I merely wanted to hear a genuine response from the city fans as to how they came to this conclusion. I have nothing to be obsessed about ur club, as an obsession with usually insinuates you are infatuated with something. I get everything i need from my club thank u very much. As for this history remark, erm it was in reponse to a city fan. I merely pointed out that we are very proud of our history, including our achievements preceeding 1990 as a city fan wrongly stated, not me
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@ModelsAndMortals And u accuse me of being obsessed when u urself just commented on a vid about united celebrations last week. Oh the irony.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united
but you never talk about United - you just keep trying to diss MAN CITY. YOU ARE BESOTTED WITH US. I don't blame you mind....we are the best loved club by true SUPPORTERS as opposed to REMOTE fans. If you keep looking at our web site you'll enjoy it. I know it makes you secretly sick to read about us.....you can't sleep for writing and thinking about us......but as I keep saying WE DON'T GIVE A TOSS ABOUT YOUR CLUB....so you are very sad
mancityy1789 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 But am i even talking about ur club? Am i talking about ur success on the field or ur money? No, i didnt even come for an argument, as i never tried to describe ur club in a derogatory manner did i. I came on, as ive explained about 10 times, to have a discussion about the facts, and why it is city fans try to claim manchester is blue, despite the fact the facts show otherwise. Thats all. Im not interested in whats goin on on the pitch, ur the 1 whose spoken about that, so dont
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 put words into my mouth. And again id love to know, exactly what do united have to be obsessed or besotted about with ur club because id love to know this. Its the city fans who cannot stop going on and on and on and on about how manchester is blue. If united mean nothing to u why feel the need to keep coming out with it. To confirm to urselves that manchester is blue? Hmm
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
Give utd a bit of credit,at some points it was actually 2 deep.
EASTLANDS 9 months ago
I think this more than makes up for the supposedly empty stadium comments!!!
ModelsAndMortals 9 months ago
Let's be honest. Manchester City will never be as famous as Manchester United. The damage is done. History can't be undone. United will always mean football history, passion, worldwide fame, class, 350 million fan base. City will always be means a poor second, with a couple of trophies.
cheapipod 9 months ago
@cheapipod
you are a very sad and deluded person. History didn't start 20 years ago........but the future started this year!! Get used to it
mancityy1789 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 Come on mate Dont forget football didnt exist before 1992 according to these ;)
ClaudioSanchezCC 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 And i suppose the 7 league titles, 7 FA cups, 1 european cup, and the 9 community shields all won before 1990 dont count eh. Please point out where any united fan ever claimed our history started from 1990 onwards. The man before simply said we have a history u cannot match. Judging by what we won even before our dominance started and what weve won since, what exactly is wrong with the mans statement
PS didnt realise 1 FA cup meant the beginning of a bright future (eyes rolling)
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united
Keep on talking about City, like all the other reds....we love it. Even your most famous 'banner' was about us. You're obsessed with City. Where do you live by the way....were you one of the few at the parade????
mancityy1789 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 Wow am i reading this right? A bitter is accusing a united fan of being obsessed. You couldnt make it up :) What exactly would i be obsessed about ur club eh? Am i envious of your long illustrious history and the countless trophies youve won? Your state of the art stadium? Your top class fan base who struggle to fill your stadium most weeks? Your right mate, i am most definitely obsessed by the wonder that is manchester city.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united As I have already said....keep on talking about us and how bad our support is, how bad our ground is, how we've got no history, how we have no fans.....it's all in your mind...you keep churning out what you read in the press.......get over us....we are here to stay and WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR TEAM but you sure as hell are worried about ours....
mancityy1789 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 Why do i need the read the papers to see your club has won about 10% of our club has won in its history. Why do i need the press to tell me u barely sell out ur ground when i see it myself on tv checking the scores/highlights. For the record i never said ur support is awful, i just said u r hyprocrites trying to claim manchester is blue when ur stadium is never full. Worried about ur team, why? Cos u have money, means f a, if u do succeed tho ill wholeheartdely congratulate u tho.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united
As I have already said and this is the last time I am going to say it...we love our club DESPITE not having your history - not BECAUSE of it.....I can only suppose that if your club didn't have a 'history', you wouldn't be on here now.......
mancityy1789 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 Give me strength. For the last time, i never once mentioned our history. I only brought it up after a city fan tried to make out that united have only had a history since the 90s. I never tried to turn this into a "whose best" argument, i only ever came on here to ask where it was these manchester is blue sayings come from and have a discussion about said topic. It is the city fans who have mentioned history, the future etc not me, i havent mentioned history, or on field matters.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 I dont doubt u love ur club, i know city are passionate about their club as my mate is a big city fan and he too loves the club. I have no doubt u will probably go on and rewrite ur own history in the next 20 years, so im not saying anything here. If u do go on tho and win the CL, PL etc u will undoubtedly be proud of ur achievements tho, just look at pool they cant shut up about theirs. So a history is just something to be proud of and look upon, but i wasnt the 1 to bring it up
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@cheapipod 348 million Asian, 1 million turkish, 900 thousand cockneys 75000 from cornwall, and 25000 from Manchester
ClaudioSanchezCC 9 months ago
@ClaudioSanchezCC Well assuming that figure of us having that number of fans worldwide is true, it would be a little difficult to fit 350 million fans into manchester wouldnt it (eyes rolling). Maybe u should be more concerned about the fact that ur stadiums are never full (except of course when u play united). Ur all local aswell arent u, manchester is blue afterall isnt it, and yet u cant even fill ur stadium most games. Armchair fans if ever ive heard of it.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united
You do a lot of eye rolling.........they keep rolling towards Eastlands....do you watch us all the time because you seem to have lots of statistics on us. No idea how many 'fans' your team has because I don't care. You just can't match our devotion to our team whatever the situation we find ourselves in. Judging by your parade, your fans would melt away if you were less successful.....but whatever, get this,,,,,we really don't care about you. We just love ourclub
mancityy1789 9 months ago
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@mancityy1789 you keep saying you don't care about Utd, twice now? Yet you keep banging on about Utd! Sorry if I'm not convinced....
scarleyfig 9 months ago
@mancityy1789 Not at all but id rather use stats and evidence to back up an opinion rather than just continue coming out with the same shit that has been proven is false. Your devotion to ur club is outstanding btw. Where else would u see stadiums half empty on such a regular basis. All at the same time as stating manchester is blue. The "cockney massive" make the effort and yet u local blues cant be arsed to get to eastlands to show your "devotion" to ur club. Sad.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united Weve filled our stadium every premier league game this season :L To be honest ive never seen Old Trafford totally packed except for Derby games either.
How can you call us armchair fans? Our victory parade we had over a hundred thousand people lining the streets of manchester? how many were at yours? 20 to 30 thousand at best! saying that though 3/4 of your fans cant speak english so its difficult for them to know how to get to the parade :/
ClaudioSanchezCC 9 months ago
@ClaudioSanchezCC OT has been full consistently the last 20 years, and i dont think even other city fans would deny that. They just try to claim its full becos of the glory hunters, but still to claim its not full here is just desperate on ur part. As for eastlands, how many empty seats did u have against juventus. Notts county etc? Half the stadium atleast. If manchester is blue and u all live close to eastlands why couldnt u be bothered to fill it. Thats why i claimed u were armchair fans.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@ClaudioSanchezCC How many fans were there for the 99 treble celebrations? 500k. But they were all glory hunters right.
Yeah well when uve got 300 million fans world wide, it would be hard for them all to fit into manchester and speak english wouldnt it (eyes rolling). But anyway i see city are expanding in the arab countries trying to gain support over there. But they wont be glory hunters will they, manchester city dont have them afterall.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united Sorry about that us city fans forget that football didnt exist before 92' when you started getting succesful,
And im not saying that the 300 million should live in manchester im saying where are the 500k now?
If 500 thousand turned out for the treble there is no excuse for only 30k to turn up for that trophy!
And how can you say that? we've just won the f.a cup :L its not like were not winning trophies now is it :L
ClaudioSanchezCC 9 months ago
@ClaudioSanchezCC Oh come on mate, lets not get into this. OT has been full for as far back as i can remember. We regularly used to get 40/50k when we were down in the 2nd division in 74, so lets not try and make out thats only come about the last 20 years.
Many of the 500k are season ticket holders, and thats the problem here. I have said all along its certainly neck and neck in regardsto whose red/blue in manchester, but most city fans cant see that. We had just as many ST subscribers with a
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@ClaudioSanchezCC manchester postcode as city did. Its there in black and white, its not on the say so of rival fans. I cant say how many people there were for the parade, as they were rather low key. Yes ill admit that. But theres bound to be more outfor city liftin their first cup in 35 years, than there is with us who win something most years. Yes that sounds smug and arrogant, but u may well see that at city for urself if u go on to achieve what ur saying u will do. The number were
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@ClaudioSanchezCC disappointing and i admit that, but u get full attendences at OT, carling cup or PL/CL, we get crowds following us away in europe too and weve got just as many manc united fans as ST holders as city.
Im just sayin what i heard, that city were hoping to attract worldwide fans, was even apparently on a city website. If u do go on to dominant and we become the also rans, can we then claim u have the gloryhunters and u bought the league, like u did with us?
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@cheapipod
Who are you trying to convince.....you sound very worried. Good to see you talking about City all the time though.....could give a toss about your team
mancityy1789 9 months ago
stadium, then why do so few show up. Surely if as alot of the city fans claim, united fans are all cockneys, it shows that a large majority of the city boys are armchair fans who cant be arsed to make the short trip to eastlands, whilst the cockney massive make the 200+ mile trip to see united?
As i say, its always struck me manchester has always been 50/50. Theres alot of blues, but theres also a hell of alot of reds. Glory hunters r just part and parcel of being a successful side, as u may
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
It's over for the rags, get used to it Trafford boys cause I've had ur fun and now it's our turn, let's all laugh at the jokers who turned up on sunday! Lol 6,000 in Manchester ha ha ha massive club, city had 100,000 in town and a full stadium , pt
OURCITTY 9 months ago
@OURCITTY Is the bane of ur existence to spend ur life worrying about what united r doing, and ur obsession of taking over? Youve won a FA cup ffs, and u spent £350m to get that. Most of the players youve spent that on have been crap wastes of money, and ur now saying its ur turn to start dominating (massive face slap).
PS- Lol half the stadium empty when u were playing juventus in the europa league with tickets going for a fiver, massive club (eyes rolling).
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united That's not really true mate - there were 33,000 at the Juventus home match and only about 900 of them were Juve fans. Tickets for that match were £30 for adults or £50 if you bought as a package along with the Lech and Salzburg matches.
It's worth remembering that City's support base is only a fraction of United's and as such we don't have tens of thousands of fans to take up the slack if some of our season ticket holders decide to sack off a cup game.
EASTLANDS70 9 months ago
Old Trafford Highest EVER Gate. 76, 962, Wolves v Grimsby,MASSIVE. NEVER had a rich owner. At a time when transfer fees were still around the £1,000 mark, the cost of construction of O.T only served to reinforce the club's "Moneybags United" epithet, with which they had been tarred since Davies had taken over
And Another
Gibson injected around £40,000 more funds into the team during the Great Depression,.
He funded the rebuilding of the stadium & funded the youth policy.
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EASTLANDS 9 months ago 11
Dont matter what team you support, you'd have to be pig thick not to realise the power is already shifting in manchester. about time too in my opinion. oh by the way didnt city beat barcelona at the camp nou not so long ago ?
suffolknwatt 9 months ago
@suffolknwatt Based on what? The fact city have shit loads of money, that they won the FA cup? The power balance will have shifted when they overtook our trophie record, no sooner. For the record, much as i hate to admit it, yes they do have a good looking future. They can buy who they want, their stadium will soon be redeveloped, its happy days for them. But chelski and liverpool to a lesser extent have shown that means nothing, success is never a right, it has to be worked for over many years
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united The balance of power hasn't shifted, more like the gap between the 2 teams is closing quickly. However, I don't think you can say it won't have shifted until we've matched Utd's trophy haul - if you had 2 or 3 trophy-less seasons but we won quite a few then that would be a fair indicator of a power shift surely? As it is, I don't subscribe to this "Utd are fooked" line that some trot out. You'll still be challenging and winning things but you won't be quite as dominant.
EASTLANDS70 9 months ago
@EASTLANDS70 The gap has definitely closed, and will continue to imo and i have never denied that. I put a great empathise on history and believe it is on the trophies won over a period of time that u judge a side. We just overtook pool as the most successful league team, so there is now no denying we are the undisputed top dogs. We were still head and shoulders tho above say chelski even when we went 4 years without a trophy, so imo u will need long term successful to truly shift the power.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@suffolknwatt So to say the balance has shifted, is a bizarre statement right now. United may well be on the way down (i believe they are personally and it pains me to say it) but all citys money doesnt mean squat. They have to work for it like everybody else, and buy wisely. They havent done that imo apart from about 7-10 good signings the rest have been garbage. Even if they do win stuff in the future, they need to do that regularly over the next 20 years to even be considered close to us.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
It's true ' 20 k ' crowds fell for most clubs even threw the red mist crowds were low hence the piss poor league ' Sky came along and pushed the premier league too what it is now City meanwhile as usual were topsy turvy but teams like Oldham ' Blackburn even Norwich was in top 6 ' LOL great league a bit like the Scottish premier at the time
dgreenfrog 9 months ago
@dgreenfrog That was probably more to do with the fact that they got rid of standing on the terraces and the game went to the bastard businessmen who came in and jacked up the prices 10 fold (at every club).
As for the state of the league, you can only beat what is in front of u. Liverpool throughout their dominance in the 70s and 80s, never got a real challenge from us, leeds were decent but not great, chelski were a cup side as were city. Not much competition there but ignore that why dont u
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
lots of fighting going on?
hulksmash05 9 months ago
@mufcdarren1 slap ur self for that comment . an how typical of a united fan to not live in manchester lol if u came down to manchester with those bull shit statements not only would u get fucked up by a black guy but a white guy too for being so ignorant and close minded .
daniel27121993 9 months ago
Fucking brilliant.The futures bright the futures Blue. CTID
myengland4ever 9 months ago
Could somebody please tell Tom Benson that I'm sorry for what I said earlier and that I'll buy him Ten Benson silver if he comes round to my bedsit in Moss Side and shoves a 35 inch replica of Foes black schlong straight up my well worn shit pipe! Cheers!
CTID
SiIverfox0984 9 months ago
I'd like to apologise to young Tom for making completely unfounded accusations against him on this video! I guess I'm just a right thick cunt!! In fact, I'm so profoundly stupid you could probably sell me a pair of my own socks for £1976 quid...
even if I was already wearing them!!
SiIverfox0984 9 months ago
@SiIverfox0984 Fuck off.
Tom7Benson 9 months ago
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There's barely 2,000 in that video clip. GMP verified around 5,000 in Deansgate. There were twice that many on Princess Street. Stop trying to justify it, no-one believes it and no-one cares anymore. get over it.
Silverfox0984 9 months ago
LOL ' hey I don't mind listening too Manchester U fans from Manchester who go to matches ranting on etc ! but I remember UTD only getting 20 odd thousand a game before the league went piss poor in the mid 80' s and 90's !
dgreenfrog 9 months ago
@dgreenfrog 20k. Really? Ive never ever seen or heard of OT having less than 40k capacity, and those were for cup games anyway. Always for league games going back to way since the 40s the evidence proves weve always had among the best attendence in the league so dunno what ur on about tbh.
And PS why did the league go piss poor mid 80s early 90s? Was it because the scousers dominance was coming to an end and united were coming to the fore, so as to downplay our achievements? Just asking.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
You bunch of turds , over 10 thousand people turned up at the parade !!
xAdamK 9 months ago
Can i just point out aswell here, as i know u city supporters seem to have a psychotic obsession and hatred towards all things united, that not once have i resorted to childish name calling nor referring to your club in a derogatory manner. I have just responded to fans who are claiming us reds are cockneys and gloryhunters. If anyone wants to respond to my points then fine, i welcome it, im just not interested in responding to childish posters who resort to name calling and "munich" remarks.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
get off your high billion-pound horse city and face the facts
united have more support, no we are not all glory hunters and the f.a cup im afraid is not something to gloat at united with, neither is buying tevez off us. Get real, the city is not yours and it sadly never will be
PhillipsBenjamin 9 months ago
@PhillipsBenjamin Tevez wasn't yours to sell,more Red Lies!
sillyjumbledupshit 9 months ago
@PhillipsBenjamin We did not buy tevez from utd, his contract had finished so he was available to any one who wanted him!! OK CTIFD
mrssmurfette1 9 months ago
@PhillipsBenjamin When did we buy Tevez off you? Obviously are a gloryhunter, cos most people know facts about their football club, especially as recent as that. PLASTIC!
Slicker1978 9 months ago
@PhillipsBenjamin just got back from Cyprus and watched Barcelona in their triumph ' half of the pub in Utd tops ' so in my walk of faith I asked at least 20-25 lads in utd tops where they were from and most was from east Anglia and a few from Dorset ' 4 irish men and only 3 was from Manchester thats why the city is ours
dgreenfrog 9 months ago
@dgreenfrog So the City is yours because of some shite that went on in Cyprus? Do you know that when I go on holiday,when waiters ask me who I support,I just say 'Manchester' and they go 'oh,Manchester United!'. Most don't even know that there's two Manchester clubs.
Tom7Benson 9 months ago
@Tom7Benson yeah, well, whenever I go on holiday the taxi drivers always say to me, " you're from Manchester? really? wow! mcfc! jeff whitley, danny mills, paul dickov, those guys are true legends of the game."
...then again I do take my holidays in Stockport so make of that what you will!!
SiIverfox0984 9 months ago
@SiIverfox0984 They have Curly Watts as a celebrity fan,because City are a massive club!
Tom7Benson 9 months ago
yes it was amazing how 1958 brought you fame '
dgreenfrog 9 months ago
@dgreenfrog Haha,that old one. FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW MUFC
Tom7Benson 9 months ago
@dgreenfrog yet city who had a europa league game to a huge club like juventus (something u dont see too much of) ur ground is only half full. I mean manchester is blue afterall isnt it, u all live round the corner from eastlands, so why were so few of u at that game? Or the notts country game? Or most PL games that arent against united when u see thousands upon thousands of empty seats.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@dgreenfrog Doesnt it reflect badly on ur support that ur fans dont seem bothered making the short trip to eastlands and yet the "cockney massive" united fans are willing to travel so far for an unimportant carling cup game against the mighty wolves. Are all city fans armchair supporters who cant be arsed to go out and support their side? Kind of shows u up by that logic, dont u think?
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@dgreenfrog Its funny when i made a comment how uniteds attendance has always dwarfed that of citys since the 40s and how u were barely half full for your games against juve, notts county etc i didnt get an answer. As a seemingly intelligent city fan can u please answer that for me. Why is it that our support has always been higher than ours, including years before our dominance in the 90s. Why it is that a carling cup game against wolves on a wednesday sees 50k united supports yet city
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united Ok, I'll answer it as best I can - before WW2 City's crowds were consistently higher than Utd's. Immediately after the war, City were in Div 2 and Utd Div 1. As such Utd were getting the bigger crowds - this carried on into the 50's as Utd along with Wolves were the best 2 teams in the country and both were averaging similarly big crowds. The air disaster resulted in an outpouring of national sympathy and this helped guarantee Utd would continue getting big crowds.
EASTLANDS70 9 months ago
@EASTLANDS70 First of all mate, ill just say thanks for responding to my posts in a calm dignified manner. No muncih bashing or getting over personal even tho our clubs and fans dont get on, so respect to u there for the way uve replied to my points. I honestly havent come on here to start a war between our clubs, i just honestly wanted to know where these manchester is blue rumours come from. Bein a manc born and bred ive always found it to be 50/50 so ive never got where thats come from
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united Im only going by what i saw on the tv, and a good mate of mine who happens to be a city fan, whose admitted himself the numbers u get at eastlands are a joke at times. Ur stadium is about a 45k seater if im correct, and yet u only sold 30k seat to juve a massive side. Come on mate, thats not a good showing especially in a europa league match is it? Especially when the old manchester is blue statement is used none stop. If it is indeed blue, and city fans all live near the
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united well find out for urselfs in the coming years.
Anyway im not having a go at ur club, i could name u 5 clubs i hate more than urs in particularly the cockney sides and the scousers but there u go. I just wanted to give my 2 cents in regards to the manchester red blue divide, because as far as ive seen, it sure as hell isnt the big divide as some like to make out.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united Manchester isn't blue of course - it's just a wind-up that most blues use. A bit like United fans and the "All City fans come from Stockport" line. You say 50-50 in Manc itself but honestly if you knocked on every door in Manc I reckon more would say they followed United than City (not that I'd class all of them as true fans). This is a result of your success and City's bad form over the past 20 years - City seem to have lost a generation of Manc fans these past 2 decades.
EASTLANDS70 9 months ago
@EASTLANDS70 Onto ur 1st point, ur right the munich tradgedy obviously had an effect. I dont think we milked it as some have said, but theres no doubt we got the crowd in our corner for a long time afterwards. As i say tho i will never deny ur club has a massive following, however this manchester is blue stuff is bollocks. Its backed up that the number of season ticket holders from manchester at both clubs are about even. Yes we have our glory hunters but we cant help that. If ur club r one day
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@EASTLANDS70 as successful as ur hoping ull see this first hand. Indeed it was even big news a few days after ur FA cup win that on a city website u were saying u were looking forward towards gaining a large gloabl following. The glory hunters will always go where the success is. The same twats that fit this category were there in the 80s with the scousers, there when chelski came about (the number of chelski shirts i saw up north was a joke) and it happened with us. One day it may happen 2 u 2.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
I mean its a long hard trip to get to manchester from london on a wednesday night for a little carling cup game isnt it. Still by your logic those "london" reds are obviously better supporters than you "loyal local mancs" who barely fill half a stadium during your european campaign which u havent seen too much of. The cockneys afterall came up in their droves for such a game whilst u locals who live just around the corner from city, couldnt get to the game. Armchair fans at their best :)
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@tonymontanna4united Ever heard of the Cup Ticket Scheme?
sillyjumbledupshit 9 months ago
@sillyjumbledupshit With a 45k capacity you only have 25k tickets available for sale? Im very much aware of the cup ticket scheme at united, it was a complete rip off the parasite glazers brought in to much dismay. Before though, anyone tries to claim the 50k we saw attend for the wolves game i talk about attended just to get good tickets for league games, i ask u to look at our current ticket waiting list. Its all but gone. Fans are boycotting tickets in their numbers so i dont buy that theory
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
If united are just made up of glory hunters then why is it during these dark times, our support still dwarfed that of citys. Why is it on a wednesday night for a carling cup game against wolves made up of uniteds reserves (therefore not much of a spectacle) OT is still attended by over 50k reds. Yet city play a side like juventus (still a big european team) in the europa league this year with tickets going for a fiver, and you only just fill half of your available capacity. Seems weird.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
Can i just ask, and i dont even ask this in a patronising manner, how it is most of the city fans come to the conclusion manchester is blue, when the facts (you know something you can actually use to add weight to an opinion) show that since the 40s, manchester united have had greater attendences than city. That includes the 60s were city and united were pretty much equals and the 70s when united were at their lowest at for a season, in the old division 2.
tonymontanna4united 9 months ago
@skepz22 Where the fuck's Blakeley? You thick Rag muppet,Manchester is BLUE.
sillyjumbledupshit 9 months ago
everything you fucking say is so right soooooooooo right
i tell you what im going to become a blue right here right now
city till i die city till i die (1 fucking cup its amaving
phil2827 9 months ago
news flash
city fans have allways been right about everything
life/ death/the universe.
fucking wankers
phil2827 9 months ago
Brilliant!!!! Every picture tells a story
wickedcityfilms 9 months ago 12
Why does it always rain on rags?!
TheHairybean 9 months ago
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Silverfox0984 9 months ago
You fall in love
Zing boom
The sky up above
Zing boom
Is caving in
Wow bam
You've never been so nuts about a guy
You wanna laugh you wanna cry
You cross your heart and hope to die
'Til it's over and then
Silverfox0984 9 months ago