So many kooks, so little time. I noticed none of you have given me even a Scriptural based answer, but instead resort to irrelevant allusions to various legends. I suppose Protestants were always tolerant even to their fellow Protestants? I don't defend the crimes committed by priests or even the hierarchy, but none of you is answering in a scriptural way. And with that, I will hold my peace, brothers.
YOU AINT GOING TO FOOL NO ONE.IN CATHOLIC CHURCH POPE IS INFALLIBLE.FALSE TEACHING.CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE MYSTERY RELIGION MENTIONED IN REVELATION.ONLY FOOLS WHO CANNOT DISCERN THIS.SOON POPE WILL BE REVEALED AS THE FALSE PROPHET AND TOGETHER WITH THE FALSE POLITICAL LEADER IN EU THEY WILL LEAD MANY ''CHRISTIANS'' INTO HELL.
Well, maybe one should not expect too much from a 4 minute video, but the argument here is pretty weak. In effect, Father Barron is saying that it would be awfully nice if the Pope were indeed infallible in matters of the faith, and therefor he must be. As for Matthew 16:18, that is awfully flimsy. And isn't the doctrine of Papal infallibility recent? (i.e. 19th century). Were the popes before then infallible without knowing it?
@roxykattx Clearly it's not meant to be an entire case for the teaching. I don't agree that that's the argument Fr. Barron is making here, though. Either way, you should check out the following if you'd like to learn more about the Church's teaching on Papal Infallibility: catholic[dot]com/tracts/papal-infallibility (u will have to replace the [dot] obviously)
@roxykattx The word “infallible” actually means “cannot fail” or “unfailing.” Therefore, the very term Papal Infallibility comes directly from Christ’s promise to St. Peter (and his successors) in Luke 22:31-32, that Peter has an unfailing Faith. And it was also believed in the early Church,(The Dogmatic letter of Pope Leo to the Council of Chalcedon) Though this truth was believed since the beginning of the Church, it was specifically defined as a dogma at the Vatican Council in 1870.
@roxykattx There are three requirements for infallibility to be invoked:
1. The pronouncement must be made by the official successor to Peter.
2. The subject matter must be in the area of faith and morals.
3. The Pope must be speaking Ex Cathedra (from the chair) of Peter, and must be intending to proclaim a doctrine that binds the entire Church to assent.
DONT BE DECEIVED IN PHILOSOPHY AND SOOTHING LANGUAGE OR TOUNGUE.IF YOU WANT KNOW THE TRUTH TAKE YOUR BIBLES,OPEN THEM AND READ THEM FOR YOURSELVES THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD IS YOUR ONLY INTERPRETER NOT POPE.
CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES MAN MADE DOCTRINES,POPE HAS BELIEVES ANOTHER JESUS NOT JESUS CHRIST OF THE BIBLE.BIBLE MUST BE THE ONLY SOURCE OF AUTHOURITY FOR A TRUE CHRISTIAN TILL DEATH
@josephmainahi "CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES MAN MADE DOCTRINES"
1. That is false
2. Suppose it is right, isn't the Bible written by men? You too, ultimately, put your trust in men, you simply haven't realized the full potential of that claim.
"BIBLE MUST BE THE ONLY SOURCE OF AUTHOURITY "
Ahhh.... Sola Scriptura... lol... Got any Biblical verse that supports such a claim?
@josephmainahi And when you finish reading your Bible, send a thank you note to the original Christian Church which brought you the Bible. The RCC. You're welcome. ;)
@IDH77 Another sola scriptura guy, huh? For Transubstantiation, see John 6:22-59. For the Pope's authority, Matthew 16:18. The various titles of the Pope, such as Pontifex Maximus, I grant you, are not there because Peter went to Rome after the events narrated in Acts. When all you have is the NT, you ignore the many contemporary accounts of the Apostolic Fathers. They are certainly interesting reading if you want to know more about early Church history. As no doubt any Christian should.
@Pi10sco FYI that’s the RCC twisting the Scriptures!
If you want to believe in the lying traditions of men that’s your business but when you stand before the Judgment seat of Christ don’t forget you were warned!
The apostles were Jews and they believed that the bread and the wine were symbolic as they do to this day in the Passover.
@Pi10sco The same RCC that tortured, murdered and sometimes dug up remains in black magic style rituals for revenge on men of GOD who REALLY BROUGHT the Word of God to the Common man?? Tyndale Wycliffe Huss for a total of 50 million and still running today? The RCC did all it could to keep the BIBLE from you and control in their grimy filthy pedo hands? After the KJV they came out with the Douay Rheims, after a secret papal meeting with Tischendorf "finds" manuscripts cont
@Pi10sco in an ancient firepit testifying to their mistakes and countless revisions and is then translated thru the RCC's apostate prism of doctrine "give us this Day our Super- Substantive bread. Check out what your priest did in ww2!! Watch a Lamp in the Dark
Pope is NOT the False Prophet. He is the very ANTICHRIST, the BEAST of Revelation, the Little Horn of Daniel 7, the man of sin sitting in the Temple (Christian Church) of God. This was the unanimous teaching of ALL the Protestant Reformers prior to 1850.
the doctrine of papal infallibility is more sensible than anti catholic protestants want to make it, given that the doctrine explained here allows for erring popes and infallible.
so when was the last infallible utterance by a pope?
as i understand it it was the last time a pope promulgated a doctrine, which was, to my memory, in 1950, Pius XII and the assunption of Mary.
I would be grateful for an answer here. nothing offends me so much as straw men arguments as anticatholics often use
Papal infallibility is pure heresy. No man while in the flesh is 'infallible'. And the only man who ever existed that was infallible in the flesh was the Messiah. It's impossible to reckon with the heresy of saying in any way that a common man possesses such 'divinity'. To me this teeters on idolatry.
@theone1087 Did you listen to Fr. Barron's definition of infallibility? It is not the possession of divinity, but authority granted by God, the same authority granted to St. Peter when he proclaimed Christ the messiah. In Matthew 16:17 Jesus said that the truth was not revealed to Peter through material means, but from God the Father. That is the same way it is revealed to the Church today, and will until He returns! God bless you my friend.
Father, i am a catholic who has recently watched angelica zambranos testimony... would you watch that and tell me what you think ? maybe even do a video on it ...
@sksk1995 ur welcome just be confident with ur Catholic/Authentic faith because it comes from the Apostles themselves & God cannot deceive nor be deceived we have to trust Him because He is our Father & Christ is our Head: we belong to His Body- the Catholic Church.
2) psychologically speaking for a child to grow up from a rigid religious formation, she is likely to CREATE visions from her mental construct which is already very much influenced by her religion. this is based on the social cognitive theory of Albert Bandura (that environment, other people, experiences= affect our learning or mental construct & ultimately our attitude & vice versa).
@sksk1995 3) her claims on hell is very LITERAL. actually the pain in hell is not so much of the fire but of the ABSENCE of God Himself. To think that Heaven is in FIRE "for God is love"[1 John 4:8] & "for our God is a consuming fire." [Hebrews 12:29] for these reasons the closest angel to God is the Seraphim which literally means BURNING ONES. To add on this, if God's love is infinite then the if He is absent ETERNALLY upon a person it will be like FIRE of PAIN & separation from GOD.
@sksk1995 4) Pope John Paul contrary to her claims has really contributed so much in the elaboration of the SANCTITY of marriage & sex most expressively & impressively elaborated in his Theology of the Body. All his teachings are from the Bible also contrary to what this girl claims again.
@sksk1995 5) So many people have claimed seeing God or having a near death experience so to speak & most of them claim a different experience to this wonderful girl Angelica. There are those priests who claimed to have seen purgatory, heaven & hell, there are also other non-catholics who have claimed to see the virgin Mary greeted her. What makes this particular claim especial when it by itself is also contrary to the Bible?
@sksk1995 the Catholic Church claims direct lineage to the APOSTLES read history po! If this Church is APOSTOLIC then it is logical to think that this is the TRUE CHURCH/RELIGION. The Bible is its proof because it (the Church) canonized the Bible read history again. Christ promised that
"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it." [Matthew 16:18]
@sksk1995 Therefore we can safely rely on the safeguarding of the TRUE DOCTRINES of the CHURCH throughout the ages. If Christ preserves her then any claims against her doctrines is FALSE because of this we receive this warning:
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. [1 John 4:1]
because?
"Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many." [Matthew 24:11]
@papalsoldier Amen.
Pi10sco 1 week ago
So many kooks, so little time. I noticed none of you have given me even a Scriptural based answer, but instead resort to irrelevant allusions to various legends. I suppose Protestants were always tolerant even to their fellow Protestants? I don't defend the crimes committed by priests or even the hierarchy, but none of you is answering in a scriptural way. And with that, I will hold my peace, brothers.
Pi10sco 1 week ago
YOU AINT GOING TO FOOL NO ONE.IN CATHOLIC CHURCH POPE IS INFALLIBLE.FALSE TEACHING.CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE MYSTERY RELIGION MENTIONED IN REVELATION.ONLY FOOLS WHO CANNOT DISCERN THIS.SOON POPE WILL BE REVEALED AS THE FALSE PROPHET AND TOGETHER WITH THE FALSE POLITICAL LEADER IN EU THEY WILL LEAD MANY ''CHRISTIANS'' INTO HELL.
josephmainahi 2 weeks ago
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@josephmainahi 1.The Catholic Church gave YOU the Bible.
2. Private interpretation of scripture is forbidden by the Bible itself (2 St.Peter 1:20)
3. Some people misinterpret scripture to their own condemnation (2 St.Peter 3:16)
4. "Europeans know what Christianity is and have rejected it. Americans believe what they want and call it Christianity." --H.W. Crocker
5. "Who does not cease to preside in his see,who will doubt that he rules in every part of the world." Pope Leo The Great[A.D.461]
PapalSoldier 1 week ago
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@josephmainahi 1.The Catholic Church gave YOU the Bible.
2. Private interpretation of scripture is forbidden by the Bible itself (2 St.Peter 1:20)
3. Some people misinterpret scripture to their own condemnation (2 St.Peter 3:16)
4. "Europeans know what Christianity is and have rejected it. Americans believe what they want and call it Christianity." --H.W. Crocker
5. "Who does not cease to preside in his see,who will doubt that he rules in every part of the world." Pope Leo The Great[A.D.461]
PapalSoldier 1 week ago
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@josephmainahi 1.The Catholic Church gave YOU the Bible.
2. Private interpretation of scripture is forbidden by the Bible itself (2 St.Peter 1:20)
3. Some people misinterpret scripture to their own condemnation (2 St.Peter 3:16)
4. "Europeans know what Christianity is and have rejected it. Americans believe what they want and call it Christianity." --H.W. Crocker
5. "Who does not cease to preside in his see,who will doubt that he rules in every part of the world." Pope Leo The Great[A.D.461]
PapalSoldier 1 week ago
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@josephmainahi 1.The Catholic Church gave YOU the Bible.
2. Private interpretation of scripture is forbidden by the Bible itself (2 St.Peter 1:20)
3. Some people misinterpret scripture to their own condemnation (2 St.Peter 3:16)
4. "Europeans know what Christianity is and have rejected it. Americans believe what they want and call it Christianity." --H.W. Crocker
5. "Who does not cease to preside in his see,who will doubt that he rules in every part of the world." Pope Leo The Great[A.D.461]
PapalSoldier 1 week ago
I am sick from stomach watching this video, and apology for Papal Infallibility, YUK!
february17able 2 weeks ago
The Pope is close to Jesus Christ! That is garbage and very deceptive. Fr. Barron get a clue.
february17able 2 weeks ago
Well, maybe one should not expect too much from a 4 minute video, but the argument here is pretty weak. In effect, Father Barron is saying that it would be awfully nice if the Pope were indeed infallible in matters of the faith, and therefor he must be. As for Matthew 16:18, that is awfully flimsy. And isn't the doctrine of Papal infallibility recent? (i.e. 19th century). Were the popes before then infallible without knowing it?
roxykattx 2 weeks ago
@roxykattx Clearly it's not meant to be an entire case for the teaching. I don't agree that that's the argument Fr. Barron is making here, though. Either way, you should check out the following if you'd like to learn more about the Church's teaching on Papal Infallibility: catholic[dot]com/tracts/papal-infallibility (u will have to replace the [dot] obviously)
MatthewWarner 2 weeks ago
@roxykattx The word “infallible” actually means “cannot fail” or “unfailing.” Therefore, the very term Papal Infallibility comes directly from Christ’s promise to St. Peter (and his successors) in Luke 22:31-32, that Peter has an unfailing Faith. And it was also believed in the early Church,(The Dogmatic letter of Pope Leo to the Council of Chalcedon) Though this truth was believed since the beginning of the Church, it was specifically defined as a dogma at the Vatican Council in 1870.
PapalSoldier 1 week ago
@roxykattx There are three requirements for infallibility to be invoked:
1. The pronouncement must be made by the official successor to Peter.
2. The subject matter must be in the area of faith and morals.
3. The Pope must be speaking Ex Cathedra (from the chair) of Peter, and must be intending to proclaim a doctrine that binds the entire Church to assent.
Not everything the Pope says is infallible.
PapalSoldier 1 week ago
This would be even better with captions.
DeafApostolateBoston 1 month ago
Beautiful and eye opening video :)
ivaflimkien 1 month ago
Beautiful!!!!!Amazing Thank you Fr Barron
fhatee 1 month ago
WARNING DONT BE BLIND MEN OF GOD.THIS CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL LEAD TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY ''CHRISTIANS'' TO HELL.
josephmainahi 1 month ago
DONT BE DECEIVED IN PHILOSOPHY AND SOOTHING LANGUAGE OR TOUNGUE.IF YOU WANT KNOW THE TRUTH TAKE YOUR BIBLES,OPEN THEM AND READ THEM FOR YOURSELVES THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD IS YOUR ONLY INTERPRETER NOT POPE.
josephmainahi 1 month ago
CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES MAN MADE DOCTRINES,POPE HAS BELIEVES ANOTHER JESUS NOT JESUS CHRIST OF THE BIBLE.BIBLE MUST BE THE ONLY SOURCE OF AUTHOURITY FOR A TRUE CHRISTIAN TILL DEATH
josephmainahi 1 month ago
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@josephmainahi "CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES MAN MADE DOCTRINES"
1. That is false
2. Suppose it is right, isn't the Bible written by men? You too, ultimately, put your trust in men, you simply haven't realized the full potential of that claim.
"BIBLE MUST BE THE ONLY SOURCE OF AUTHOURITY "
Ahhh.... Sola Scriptura... lol... Got any Biblical verse that supports such a claim?
Gazdo01 4 weeks ago
@josephmainahi And when you finish reading your Bible, send a thank you note to the original Christian Church which brought you the Bible. The RCC. You're welcome. ;)
Pi10sco 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Pi10sco Anyone who thinks that the RCC gave us the New Testament has obviously never bothered reading it for themselves!
Papal infallibility – MISSING!
Peter being called Pontifex Maximus – MISSING!
Purgatory – MISSING!
Transubstantiation – MISSING!
IDH77 2 weeks ago
@IDH77 Another sola scriptura guy, huh? For Transubstantiation, see John 6:22-59. For the Pope's authority, Matthew 16:18. The various titles of the Pope, such as Pontifex Maximus, I grant you, are not there because Peter went to Rome after the events narrated in Acts. When all you have is the NT, you ignore the many contemporary accounts of the Apostolic Fathers. They are certainly interesting reading if you want to know more about early Church history. As no doubt any Christian should.
Pi10sco 2 weeks ago
@Pi10sco FYI that’s the RCC twisting the Scriptures!
If you want to believe in the lying traditions of men that’s your business but when you stand before the Judgment seat of Christ don’t forget you were warned!
The apostles were Jews and they believed that the bread and the wine were symbolic as they do to this day in the Passover.
IDH77 2 weeks ago
@IDH77 Amen!
february17able 2 weeks ago
@Pi10sco The same RCC that tortured, murdered and sometimes dug up remains in black magic style rituals for revenge on men of GOD who REALLY BROUGHT the Word of God to the Common man?? Tyndale Wycliffe Huss for a total of 50 million and still running today? The RCC did all it could to keep the BIBLE from you and control in their grimy filthy pedo hands? After the KJV they came out with the Douay Rheims, after a secret papal meeting with Tischendorf "finds" manuscripts cont
jpb1231000 2 weeks ago
@Pi10sco in an ancient firepit testifying to their mistakes and countless revisions and is then translated thru the RCC's apostate prism of doctrine "give us this Day our Super- Substantive bread. Check out what your priest did in ww2!! Watch a Lamp in the Dark
jpb1231000 2 weeks ago
POPE IS THE FALSE PROPHET LOL
josephmainahi 1 month ago
@josephmainahi
Pope is NOT the False Prophet. He is the very ANTICHRIST, the BEAST of Revelation, the Little Horn of Daniel 7, the man of sin sitting in the Temple (Christian Church) of God. This was the unanimous teaching of ALL the Protestant Reformers prior to 1850.
Lysimachus78 1 month ago
the doctrine of papal infallibility is more sensible than anti catholic protestants want to make it, given that the doctrine explained here allows for erring popes and infallible.
so when was the last infallible utterance by a pope?
as i understand it it was the last time a pope promulgated a doctrine, which was, to my memory, in 1950, Pius XII and the assunption of Mary.
I would be grateful for an answer here. nothing offends me so much as straw men arguments as anticatholics often use
Strefanasha 1 month ago
Papal infallibility is pure heresy. No man while in the flesh is 'infallible'. And the only man who ever existed that was infallible in the flesh was the Messiah. It's impossible to reckon with the heresy of saying in any way that a common man possesses such 'divinity'. To me this teeters on idolatry.
theone1087 3 months ago
@theone1087 Did you listen to Fr. Barron's definition of infallibility? It is not the possession of divinity, but authority granted by God, the same authority granted to St. Peter when he proclaimed Christ the messiah. In Matthew 16:17 Jesus said that the truth was not revealed to Peter through material means, but from God the Father. That is the same way it is revealed to the Church today, and will until He returns! God bless you my friend.
DarthShame 3 months ago
Father, i am a catholic who has recently watched angelica zambranos testimony... would you watch that and tell me what you think ? maybe even do a video on it ...
sksk1995 6 months ago
@sksk1995 I am a nurse & as i read the document (& saws the video) regarding her supposedly being dead for almost a day i found it ridiculous. why?
1) they did not bother to bring her to the hospital to CONFIRM- through an ECG/EKG as done by a competent physician- her health status.
hepatitis 3 months ago
@hepatitis Thankyou for taking the time to research this video, your responses have helped me greatly x
sksk1995 3 months ago
@sksk1995 ur welcome just be confident with ur Catholic/Authentic faith because it comes from the Apostles themselves & God cannot deceive nor be deceived we have to trust Him because He is our Father & Christ is our Head: we belong to His Body- the Catholic Church.
hepatitis 3 months ago 2
@sksk1995
2) psychologically speaking for a child to grow up from a rigid religious formation, she is likely to CREATE visions from her mental construct which is already very much influenced by her religion. this is based on the social cognitive theory of Albert Bandura (that environment, other people, experiences= affect our learning or mental construct & ultimately our attitude & vice versa).
hepatitis 3 months ago
@sksk1995 3) her claims on hell is very LITERAL. actually the pain in hell is not so much of the fire but of the ABSENCE of God Himself. To think that Heaven is in FIRE "for God is love"[1 John 4:8] & "for our God is a consuming fire." [Hebrews 12:29] for these reasons the closest angel to God is the Seraphim which literally means BURNING ONES. To add on this, if God's love is infinite then the if He is absent ETERNALLY upon a person it will be like FIRE of PAIN & separation from GOD.
hepatitis 3 months ago
@sksk1995 4) Pope John Paul contrary to her claims has really contributed so much in the elaboration of the SANCTITY of marriage & sex most expressively & impressively elaborated in his Theology of the Body. All his teachings are from the Bible also contrary to what this girl claims again.
hepatitis 3 months ago
@sksk1995 5) So many people have claimed seeing God or having a near death experience so to speak & most of them claim a different experience to this wonderful girl Angelica. There are those priests who claimed to have seen purgatory, heaven & hell, there are also other non-catholics who have claimed to see the virgin Mary greeted her. What makes this particular claim especial when it by itself is also contrary to the Bible?
hepatitis 3 months ago
@sksk1995 the Catholic Church claims direct lineage to the APOSTLES read history po! If this Church is APOSTOLIC then it is logical to think that this is the TRUE CHURCH/RELIGION. The Bible is its proof because it (the Church) canonized the Bible read history again. Christ promised that
"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it." [Matthew 16:18]
hepatitis 3 months ago
@sksk1995 Therefore we can safely rely on the safeguarding of the TRUE DOCTRINES of the CHURCH throughout the ages. If Christ preserves her then any claims against her doctrines is FALSE because of this we receive this warning:
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. [1 John 4:1]
because?
"Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many." [Matthew 24:11]
hepatitis 3 months ago
@sksk1995
That schizophrenic girl is certainly ONE of them (false prophets).
hepatitis 3 months ago