The earliest records in Akkadian all date to the time of Sargon. Sargon was claimed to be the son of La'ibum or Itti-Bel, a humble gardener, and possibly a hierodule, prostitute, or priestess to Ishtar or Inanna.One legend related of Sargon in neo-Assyrian times says that "My mother was a changeling, my father I knew not. The brothers of my father loved the hills.My city is Azurpiranu (the wilderness herb fields),which is situated on the banks of the Euphrates.My changeling mother conceived me,
@goran21715 So what are these 3 posts supposed to prove?
it is Tel Hassuna not just Hassuna ,,, it is like calling Tel Keppe as Keppe, it doesnt make sense, you need the 2 words together, because it is the name of the area/kingdom, Assyrians / Tel Hassuna was there in North Mesopotamia before any one else... North Mesopotamia is referred to as ASSYRIA... Not Hurria, or Gutia..
Subartu is the name given during the Early Bronze Age to the area in the middle reaches of the Tigris, the northern part of the four parts into which the world to the Sumerians, and later will be the original nucleus of Assyria.
Inhabited by a Hurrian population, is an area of ancient urbanization and farming, and from Hassuna and Halaf periods.
History Already Sargon I is said to be drawn into battle against Subir,what,are there also campaigns against Simurru occupied on Zab:s not completely ruled out.Naram-Sin even claims to have extended his rule until Subartu As the first Assyrian king Ashur should have won against the uballit-Subaraeans(according to the inscriptions of Adad-nirari I)victories.Tukulti-Ninurta I then called the Conqueror of the Subaru & Guti extensive countries,Assurhaddon king of the countries of Subartu,Guti &Hatti
I dont care about Guti tribe invasion from 2100 BC ... As well The original homeland of the Kassites is not well known... But it is shown that the Kassite people came from WESTERN IRAN (haha another Iranian tribe) They invaded Babylonia by political assessment.
By around 6000 BC the Tel Hassuna people had moved into the foothills (piedmont) of northernmost Mesopotamia where there was enough rainfall to allow for "dry" agriculture in some places. These were the first farmers in northernmost Mesopotamia.
@TheObserversTV ITS sUBARTU -HURRIAN VILLAGE NOT NIGRO ASSYRRIAN INVADER (Nuzi was a Hurrian administrative center not far from the Hurrian capital at Kirkuk in northern Iraq. The Hurrians are equivalent to the Horites in the Old Testament, also called Hivites and Jebusites. Excavations were carried out at Nuzi by American teams from 1925 to 1933. The major find was more than 5,000 family and administrative archives spanning six generations, ca. 1450–1350 BC.They deal with the social, economic,
@goran21715 The town of Gasur was apparently founded during the Akkadian Empire in the late third millennium BC. In the middle second millennium Hurrians absorbed the town and renamed it Nuzi.
@TheObserversTV Hurrian, one of a people important in the history and culture of the Middle East during the 2nd millennium bc. The earliest recorded presence of Hurrian personal and place names is in Mesopotamian records of the late 3rd millennium; these point to the area east of the Tigris River and the mountain region of Zagros as the Hurrian habitat. From then on, and especially during the early 2nd millennium, there is scattered evidence of a westward spread of Hurrians.
@TheObserversTV By about 2400 BCE, Hurrians - people who spoke the Hurrian language - had expanded southward from the highlands of Anatolia. They infiltrated and occupied a broad arc of fertile farmland stretching from the headwaters of the Habur River to the foothills of the Zagros Mountains. Sites such as Nuzi (modern Yorghan Tepe), Alalakh and Tell Brak have provided most of our information on the history and archaeology of Mittani and the Hurrians in the second millennium BCE. Washshukkanni
@goran21715 Do you not get it? Do you not understand that Gasur was the original name and then it was RENAMED to Nuzi by Invading Hurrian forces? Subartu had nothing to do with Hurrians... Hurrians only had some form of Influence on the Subartu people... Subartu were different from the Hurrians and Iranic tribes, because as you said.. As you say... The Hurrians went southward about 2400 BC... So how could the Hurrians be in Arbil since 6000 BC?
@TheObserversTV the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990, Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu, Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani. Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arrapha.(Mazouri 2002
@TheObserversTV Ancient lands in the mountainous regions northeast of Mesopotamia. The exact location and extent cannot be defined, but seems to have been in modern central-western Iran.Subartu is mentioned several times in Sumerian texts, as one of Akkad's immediate neighbours, by Sumerian myths as a region of foreign languages.
Subartu was a region of agriculture, and Mesopotamia sent off expeditions to gather slaves here.
@TheObserversTV Subartu is the name given during Age of the old Bronze to the zone located in the average course of Tigris, the North part of the four parts in which is divided to the world for Sumerian, and that later sera the original nucleus of Asiria .
Inhabited by a population Hurrita, is a zone of old urbanization and agricultural operation, already from periods of Hassuna and Halaf .
@goran21715 Arbil was founded by the Pre-Assyrians called Tel Hassuna,
Tel = Hill/ Hill Top
Hassuna = Axe work/users
The heart of Tel Hassuna was roughly 7 meters high = It was a Hill Kingdom
The people of Tel Hassuna were Agricultural and used a lot of wood work (Notice the word Hassuna meaning Axe users) These were early Assyria and Assyrians are the ONLY people who use the term "Tel" for Cities that are around Hill's or even mountains like our Modern city EX. Tel Keppe.
@TheObserversTV The Lower Palaeolithic Period:Circa 500,000 to 100,000 BC
Direct evidence of Lower Palaeolithic occupation in Mesopotamia proper is extremely scant. As for excavated sites the sole example is Barda Balka near Chemchemal in northeastern Iraq. Site locations clearly demonstrate a preference for open air habitation with ready access to lakes - swamps - woodlands - open grasslands. Cave sites are extremely rare in contrast to Middle and Upper Palaeolithic occupation. Animals ex
@TheObserversTV The cave sites of Shanidar and Hazar Merd in northern Iraq represent the only excavated Middle Palaeolithic sites in this region but survey work has revealed an extensive distribution of sites across almost the entire span of Mesopotamia excepting only the southern alluvium where relatively recent river deposits now cover any evidence which may once have existed.
@TheObserversTV Subartu. The Tabali or Toboli migrated over the Caucasus like so many others before and after them. Once in southern Russia they became identified with the Muschovites and Sarmatians[4], establishing themselves for a time along the River Volga. Bohn, the editor of Marco Polo's Travels, has this to say:
The Bolgar, Bulgar, or Bulghar, here spoken of is the name of a town and extensive district in Tartary, lying to the eastward of the Volga, and now inhabited by the Bashkirs,
@TheObserversTV Subartu is the name given during Age of the old
Subartu is the name given during Age of the old Bronze to the zone located in the average course of Tigris, the North part of the four parts in which is divided to the world for Sumerian, and that later sera the original nucleus of Asiria .
Inhabited by a population Hurrita, is a zone of old urbanization and agricultural operation, already from periods of Hassuna and Halaf .
@TheObserversTV Subartu Also called: Subar.Ancient lands in the mountainous regions northeast of Mesopotamia. The exact location and extent cannot be defined, but seems to have been in modern central-western Iran.Subartu is mentioned several times in Sumerian texts, as one of Akkad's immediate neighbours, by Sumerian myths as a region of foreign languages.
Ancient lands in the mountainous regions northeast of Mesopotamia. The exact location and extent cannot be defined, but seems to have been in modern central-western Iran.
Subartu is mentioned several times in Sumerian texts, as one of Akkad's immediate neighbours, by Sumerian myths as a region of foreign languages.
@TheObserversTV According to the Sumerian king list, king Hadanish of Hamazi held hegemony over Sumer after defeating Kish, but was in turn defeated by Enshakushanna of Uruk.in 3 millennuim A clay tablet found in the archives at Ebla in Syria bears a copy of a diplomatic message sent from king Irkab-Damu of Ebla to king Zizi of Hamazi,along with a large quantity of wood, hailing him as a brother,&requesting him to send mercenaries in exchange.invader of mesopotamia filthy negro bedouin semite
The Gutians practiced hit-and-run tactics, and would be long gone by the time regular troops could arrive to deal with the situation. Their raids crippled the economy of Sumer. Travel became unsafe, as did work in the fields, resulting in famine across Sumer, the Sumerians labeled the Gutians as Stupid or Language of Dogs.
The fall of Nineveh shocked the ancient world. The Jewish prophet Nahum described the Median armies advancing to the city that had once ruled the Near East.
@goran21715 Also, Nahum said: O king of Assyria, your shepherds slumber; your nobles lie down to rest. YOUR PEOPLE are SCATTERED on the MOUNTAINS with no one to gather them.
Being Scattered on the mountains with no leadership DOES NOT MEAN EXTINCT.
@TheObserversTV Iranics have a high incidence of rufism (red hair),with dark maroon red color being relatively common.The modern Iranic custom of applying henna to redden the hair is in concious emulation of a red-haired ideal,&hearkens back to Scythic customs.This is in contrast to the Nordics,who emulate a blonde ideal. Rufism would thus appear to be one of the traits of the Irano-Afghan race.If the Gutians were Iranic,they should have exhibited rufism,along with minor incidences of blondism.
@TheObserversTV The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India, but in northern Syria in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites, the king of Mitanni,after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara,&Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra,Varuṇa, Indra, and Nāsatya Contemporary equestrian terminology, as recorded in a horse-training manual
@TheObserversTV animal lear we talk intime there werent even one country , all peoples was in trbies befor city stae , you was like monkey wandering in forest of Etheopea and we was in homeland aryan land which btween red sea and chia and mongolia in east
@TheObserversTV A clay tablet found in the archives at Ebla in Syria bears a copy of a diplomatic message sent from king Irkab-Damu of Ebla to king Zizi of Hamazi, along with a large quantity of wood, hailing him as a brother, and requesting him to send mercenaries in exchange.invader of mesopotamia filthy negro bedouin semite in that time there wasn't assyrian in region , l dont forgget you said Hlabja in iran
@goran21715 you Moron, I knew Halabja was in Iraq since i was 12 years old you idiot, you cant tell me what I said and what I didn't say because your english level averages a 2nd grade's English level, all I said what the tribes of Lulubi and Hamazi were Iranic tribes that lived in Halabja and I DIDNT CARE ABOUT HALABJA
My clear statement was that I did not care about HALABJA and SULEIMANIYA
Nohadra/Nineveh and Arbil is what I care for and is my land, you can take the lulubi land halabja.
@TheObserversTV donkey dont talk about Arbil (Arbil / Hewlêr (as in latin Kurdish) (also written Erbil, or Irbil) (Akkadian: Arba-ilu; Arabic: اربيل Arbīl; Kurdish: ههولیر Hewlêr; Sumerian: Urbilum; Syriac-Aramaic: ܐܪܒܝܠ Arbaelo; Turkish: Erbil) is the fourth largest city in Iraq after Baghdad, Basra and Mosul.The city lies eighty kilometres (fifty miles) east of Mosul, and is the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan.
Urban life at Arbil can be dated back to at least 6000 BC,go talk about SHAR=QAT
@goran21715 Arbil was founded by the Pre-Assyrians called Tel Hassuna,
Tel = Hill/ Hill Top
Hassuna = Axe work/users
The heart of Tel Hassuna was roughly 7 meters high = It was a Hill Kingdom
The people of Tel Hassuna were Agricultural and used a lot of wood work (Notice the word Hassuna meaning Axe users) These were early Assyria and Assyrians are the ONLY people who use the term "Tel" for Cities that are around Hill's or even mountains like our Modern city EX. Tel Keppe.
@TheObserversTV The land of Subar (Sumerian Su-bir4/Subar/Šubur) or Subartu (Akkadian Šubartum/Subartum/ina Šú-ba-ri, Assyrian mât Šubarri) was situated at the Tigris, north of Babylonia. The name also appears in the Amarna letters, and, in the form Šbr, in Ugarit. The language of Subartu is referred to in Akkadian as SuKI/SU.BIR4AKI.
The earliest references to the "four quarters" (relative to central Sumer) name Subartu as one of these quarters, along with Martu, Elam, and Akkad (Uri-ki).
@TheObserversTV According to the Sumerian king list, king Hadanish of Hamazi held hegemony over Sumer after defeating Kish, but was in turn defeated by Enshakushanna of Uruk.Subartu other tribes on ancient kurdish ancestoe and Guti tribes thom they fall Akkadian empire2212BC -2000B.C and ruled mesopotamia they expension empire to ELAM ,& other tribes ruled mesopotamia was Kassite from 1700 BC -1100 BC &other forefather of KURD was Metanni whom they expension from anatolia to syria to babylon
@goran21715 Lullubi (Hamazi ) first came to the attention of archaeologists with the discovery of a vase with an inscription in very archaic cuneiform commemorating the victory of Utug (or Uhub)an early king of Kish,over this place, causing fringe theorist Laurence Waddell in 1929 to speculate that it was to be identified with Carchemish in Syria.It is now generally considered to have been in shahezor modern Halabja city
an Assyrian tablet, circa 3000 B.C.- “The earth is degenerating these days. There are signs civilization is coming to an end. Bribery and corruption abound. Violence is everywhere. Children no longer respect and obey their parents.”
― From an Assyrian tablet, circa 3000 B.C. Old Assyrian Institutions (MOS Studies, 43)
Actually, there was a temple of Ashur that was founded by Archaeologists in 1950 during the Old Uruk period dating back 4750 BC, in fact, it is proven that Temples/Religions was started before cities or states, in fact, Religion was when Mesopotamian civilization started.
Look up the Mesopotamian God's of Old Mesopotamia / Old Sumero-Akkad and SEE Anshur being the FATHER of all.
@TheObserversTV Later still, the scribes explained his name as a corruption of that of the primeval cosmogonic deity An-sar, the upper firmament, which in the neo-Babylonian age was pronounced Assor. The combination of the attributes of the warrior-god, who was the peculiar god of the commander of the army, with the deified city to which the army belonged, caused Assur to become the national deity of a military nation
@goran21715 Anu: the god of heaven, "the first one, the heavenly father, the greatest one in heaven and earth, the one who contains the entire universe, the king of the gods, the father/progenitor of the (great) gods, creator of everything." He was the "reflection" of
his father Ansar (= Ashur), with whom he was identified. A personification of the immutable heaven, his word in the "assembly of gods" was final.
This is also supported by Akkadian Speaking/reading Assyriologist Simo Parpola
@TheObserversTV The origin of the city (now Kala'at Shergat), which was built on the western bank of the Tigris between the Upper and Lower Zab, went back to pre-Sem times, and the meaning of the name was forgotten (see Genesis 2:14, where the Hiddekel or Tigris is said to flow on the eastern side of Asshur). To the North of the junction of the Tigris and Upper Zab,
@TheObserversTV ANU was early sumerian god , talk about ashur idiot l readed ANU its not assyrian its ongogle in that time non exsist of assyrian in mespotamia it was city state even no mention of akkadian , the akkadian invasion mesopotamia in 2350 BC
@goran21715 Dumby, thats the point, Anu's father was ASHUR/ANSHUR
Akkadian (əkā'dēən), extinct language belonging to the East Semitic subdivision of the Semitic subfamily of the Afroasiatic family of languages (see Afroasiatic languages). Also called Assyro-Babylonian, Akkadian (or Accadian) was current in ancient Mesopotamia (now Iraq) from about 3000 B.C.
Evidence found of brain surgery 4,000 years ago, Archeologists discovered an important cemetery on their first day of excavations in the Kaniş region The examination of a skeleton found during archaeological digs at Kultepe Höyük near the Kayseri-Sivas highway suggests that the Assyrian tradesman’s skull was opened 4,000 years ago to drain the cerebral cortex. “The 4,000-year-old cemetery belongs to the Colonial Era and alongside the skeleton which likely belonged to a male Assyrian tradesman.
an Assyrian tablet, circa 3000 B.C.- “The earth is degenerating these days. There are signs civilization is coming to an end. Bribery and corruption abound. Violence is everywhere. Children no longer respect and obey their parents.”
― From an Assyrian tablet, circa 3000 B.C. Old Assyrian Institutions (MOS Studies, 43)
@TheObserversTV dont lie where your sourse you invasion(Rawlinson was surprised during his research to discover that the founders of the Mesopotamian civilization were of Kushite origin. He made it clear that the Semitic speakers of Akkad & the non-Semitic speakers of Sumer were both Black or Negro people who called themselves sag-gig-ga “Black Headsâ€In Rawlinsonâ€s day the Sumerian people were recognized as Akkadian or Chaldean,while the Semitic speaking blacks were called Assyrians)
@TheObserversTV Mitanni (Hittite cuneiform KUR URUMi-ta-an-ni,also Mittani Mi-it-ta-ni)or Hanigalbat (Assyrian Hanigalbat,Khanigalbat cuneiform Ḫa-ni-gal-bat)was a loosely organized Hurrian-speaking state in northern Syria &south-east Anatolia from1500BC1300 BC.Founded by an Indo-Aryan ruling class governing a predominately Hurrian population,Mitanni came to be a regional power after the Hittite destruction of Amorite Babylon created a power vacuum in Mesopotamia.At the beginning of its history
@TheObserversTV The first scientific excavations there were conducted by a German expedition (1903–13) led by Walter Andrae. Ashur was a name applied to the city, to the country, and to the principal god of the ancient Assyrians.
The site was originally occupied about 2500 bce by a tribe that probably had reached the Tigris River either from Syria or from the south dont talk befor 2500 bc negor looter of mesopotamia
@goran21715 Assur (pronounced Ashur), which dates from the 3rd millennium BC, Modern Historians believe that Assur was inhabited during the 3rd millennium BC.
By the way, you say Assyrians occupied Ashur City 2500 BC... Can you show me if there was any other people in Ashur city before 2500 BC?
By the way, a revolution or liberating a land can cause destruction, But WHERE did Assyrians DESTROY the City itself ?!?! Assyrians never destroyed it, they liberated it, which caused damage, then they made it BETTER, in fact it is proven that the area of modern day Kirkuk reached its full capacity under the Neo-Assyrian Empire,
Thats not the case, what the case is, is that Gasur was Akkadian, it had nothing to do with NAZI (... or nuzi) lol
@TheObserversTV The earliest occupation of the site can be traced to prehistoric times. During the middle of the third millennium B.C.E. the place was called Gasur (Foster 1987). The city reached the height of its importance during the 15th–14th centuries B.C.E., when it was called Nuzi and was part of the Mitanni Empire centered in northern Syria; its population largely spoke the Hurrian language, though they wrote in Akkadian. It was destroyed by the Assyrians in the 14th century B.C.
@goran21715 "The city reached the height of its importance during the 15th–14th centuries B.C.E., when it was called Nuzi and was part of the Mitanni Empire"
1400 BC was when the Mittani first entered as a kingdom in North Mesopotamia, so they invaded..
Akkadian: Gasur
Hurrio-Mittani: Nuzi
Assyrio-Akkad liberated Gasur in the 14th century BC.
You know the Hittites called Akkad as " Kur Aga-deki" Which means Land of Akkad ... So if the Hittites or Sumerians were all the way to China, and called Beijing as Kur for being a land or for having a mountain, does this mean it is Kurdish?!?! LOOL
You know there was a Big tribe called Asher that dates back over 3000 years ago in Israel... I guess they were Assyrians too, right?! LOOL.
@TheObserversTV Assyrian history begins with the high priests (patesis) of Assur. The earliest known to us are Auspia and Kikia, who bear Mitannian names. The early Semitic rulers, however, were subject to Babylonia, and under Khammurabi (\AMRAPHEL\) Assyria was still a Babylonian province. According to Esar-haddon the kingdom was founded by Bel-bani son of Adasi, who first made himself independent; Hadad-nirari, however, ascribes its foundation to Zulili.
@TheObserversTV A few years later the Assyrian king Bel-kudur-uzur lost his life in battle against the Babylonians, and a new dynasty appears to have mounted the Assyrian throne. About 1120 BC the Assyrian king was Tiglath-pileser I, . In one of his campaigns he made his way to the Mediterranean,which included a crocodile. At Assur he planted a botanical garden stocked with trees from the conquered provinces. After his death the Assyrian power declined;
@TheObserversTV On the seal of the king of Mitanni we see the winged solar disk with an eagle& a lion on each side,which symbolize in mythology the deity of the sun and fire.The same features appear on Tigran’s crown, with the same solar disk & the two eagles, one on each side, and the crown itself shaped at the top lie spikes representing the rays of the sun.The similarities are too obvious to be explained away by mere coincidence. why assyrian steal mitanni symbol solar disk and the two eagles
@goran21715 The Solar Disc of Ashur/Anshar Symbol dates back since the Old Uruk Period ( 4000 - 3500 BC)
Nisroch (Assyrian Bird God) Dates back over 4000 Years ago, in fact, the Assyrian dance that we do today, originated from that God when the Assyrians were making trades and other activities in Anatolia 4000 years ago to keep warm.
@TheObserversTV you idiot 4000 bc per hisorioc its time befor city state lol you ignore dont understand what you say ,so you hadn;t relation to sumerian , assyrian upper mesopotamia the Gutian had mrelation to established sumer civilation but non assyrian
@TheObserversTV Indo-Aryan.Because of the association of Indo-Aryan with horsemanship & the Mitanni it is presumed that,after superimposing themselves as rulers on a native Hurrian-speaking population about the15th-16th centuries BC,Indo-Aryan charioteers were absorbed into the local population &adopted the Hurrian language or Caucasian origin in the Mitannian area&associates with an Indo-Aryan presence the peacock motif found in the Middle East from before1600BC&quite likely from before2100 BC.
@TheObserversTV According to the present article the first Iranian prophet who laid the foundation for sun worship (Mitraism) was called Mehabad. Abad Bozorg (the big Abad), who was a pious ruler in Iranovich was born 3593 years before the birth of Prophet Zoroaster. He laid the foundation of monotheism or divine worship and a constitution based on justice which was known as Mitradad. you are negro gypsy bedouin dwell tent
@TheObserversTV The dominant type was Semitic,with full lips,somewhat hooked nose, high forehead,black hair &eyes,fresh complexion&abundance of beard.In character the Assyrians were cruel & ferocious in war,keen traders,stern disciplinarians, &where religion was concerned, intense a& intolerant.Like the Ottoman Turks they formed a military state,at the head of which was the king, who was both leader in war & chief priest, &which offered a striking contrast to theocratic state of theBabylonians.
@goran21715 Actually, the Zagros/iranic people have the Hooked nose and Dark skin as well are midgets
According to what the Archaeological / Linguistic and Biblical evidence tells us that the Oldest Semitic attestation of Words and Writing system was around Syria and Mesopotamia... The first attestation of Proto-Arabic in Saudi Arabia dates back to the 8th century BC, While the First writing system of Semitism dating back almost 4500 years ago dates back to Mesopotamia.
@TheObserversTV NO Zagros peoples was per aryan , go read Gutian and lullubi and subartuian featuer and it disccribe in letter in tell al amarria , foolish go read history the akkadian and leater assyrian borrow writing system from sumerian , you was nomadic tribes and bedouin , even was useing sumerian skill to him offical
@TheObserversTV lol l say Gutianian , (According to linguistics &internal evidence of the Avesta,the IranoAryan language family originated high in the splendid Hind Kush mountains of Afghanistan.Historical data indicates that one of these ProtoIranic-speaking tribes was denominated Gut'This ancient Iranic root denominated "warrior,as the erudite Waddell notes,the affixed title of Gut or 'Warrior(Waddell1929, )
@TheObserversTV Abundant evidence supporting the connection between Kurds and Gutians is further provided by toponyms in Kurdistan. In fact, the place-name Mt. Judi and the Kurdish clan of Judikanlu are fossil remnants of the awesome name left behind by the 'Guti', as a researcher notes, "For about two centuries (circa 2,200 to 2,000 BC) the Gutis gained the upper military hand over the Mesopotamian (primarily, Sumerian) states.
@TheObserversTV The Kassites(Ka-spi) were an ancient people known primarily for establishing the second, or middle, Babylonian dynasty; they were believed to have originated in the Zagros Mountains of Iran. First mentioned in Elamite texts of the late 3rd millennium BC,, but secured holdings within the Tigris-Euphrates valley on the northern frontiers of Babylonia . Chronicles and king lists are imprecise, and although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years,
@TheObserversTV The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea and Mediterranean sea ,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,and came into contact with the Altaic (Turkic,mongol) and china,
The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea&Mongols (turk) invasion Aryan land in the east of him land , you idiot dont understand meaning
@goran21715 No moron, I dont understand your poor grammar, there was no 'semite invasion' and Aryan land was from Iran to India.. Aryans have nothing to do with Mesopotamia.
@TheObserversTV According to the Sumerian king list, king Hadanish of Hamazi held hegemony over Sumer after defeating Kish, but was in turn defeated by Enshakushanna of Uruk.in 3 millennuimA clay tablet found in the archives at Ebla in Syria bears a copy of a diplomatic message sent from king Irkab-Damu of Ebla to king Zizi of Hamazi, along with a large quantity of wood, hailing him as a brother, and requesting him to send mercenaries in exchange.invader of mesopotamia filthy negro bedouin semie
@TheObserversTV The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea and Mediterranean sea,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,&came into contact with the Altaic(Turkic,mongol)&china,The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea&Mongols (turk) invasion Aryan land in the east of him land that range of aryan you negro semite invasion aryan land
@TheObserversTV l know you read fake history , l tald it befor you to your master Simo parpola , you dont answer me what mean common word of sumerian in your damb extinct language and the meaning of (KA-DIN-GIR-RA) and Ziggurat
@goran21715 Ka.DINGIR.Ra has nothing to do with Gutian Dogs (Sumerian called Gutian as Doggies) The term Ka.DINGIR.Ra originates from Sumerian, the Gutians were Iranian tribes from South Iran.
@TheObserversTV The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke. The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back, and a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule. Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians, Badawy notes, "The Akkadian dynasty (2350-2150 BC) marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia
Kurds have different dialects, in fact, they dont have a single writting system... Half of the Kurds write in Arabic and the other half write in Latin,,,, Example is Sorani Kurds do not understand Kurmanci kurds, and the main language of Kurd is of Farsi origin,
You people cant even understand each other yet you make fun of Aramaic hahaha
LOOK UP (Akkadian Words in Modern Assyrian - Assyrian International News) This will show you ;)
Still though, Read up on Tel Hassuna (Hill of Axe Workers/Users) which dates in the Most northern part of Mesopotamia since 6000 BC, (you do know that Assyrians are the ONLY PEOPLE to name their cities with 'Tel' which is the traditional word for cities that had hills or mountains, Tel means Hill / Hill Top in Assyrian language),
in fact, places, like Tel Keppe, Tel Talmer, Tel Baz..., Etc... are all of Assyrian origin
@TheObserversTV The Sumerian mythological epic Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta lists the countries where the "languages are confused" as Subartu, Hamazi, Sumer, Uri-ki (Akkad), and the Martu land (the Amorites). Similarly, the earliest references to the "four quarters" by the kings of Akkad name Subartu as one of these quarters around Akkad, along with Martu, Elam,& Sumer.Subartu in the earliest texts seem to have been farming mountain dwellers,lol where mention of ASSyrian in early sumerian era
@TheObserversTV The earliest occupation of the site can be traced to prehistoric times. During the middle of the third millennium B.C.E. the place was called Gasur (Foster 1987). The city reached the height of its importance during the 15th–14th centuries B.C.E., when it was called Nuzi and was part of the Mitanni Empire centered in northern Syria; its population largely spoke the Hurrian language, though they wrote in Akkadian. It was destroyed by the Assyrians in the 14th century B.C.E.
The main Religions in Adiabene were JUDAISM and ASHURISM,,, By the way, I dont like to repeate myself, ok? Nuzi was an OCCUPATION NAME... The real name of that city was GASUR which was Words of AKKADIAN ORIGIN that date back since the 3rd Millennium BC
I will say this AGAIN AS WELL... I DONT CARE for IRANIC TRIBES... (Medes, Lulu's, Gutians..) Those people were Iranian dwellers, stirring up trouble.
Actually it states that Ashur city was founded during the 3RD MILLENNIUM BC.
@TheObserversTV religion is different to nation any ine can believe to regligion which he believe to it different nation coverted to christian throgh the time , many peoples execution when they converted to christian in haabja in era of comberss II,THAT NOT IMPORTANT I TALD YOU YOU ARE FAKE OF ASSYRIAN,ASSYRIAN EXTINCT WITH FALL OF ASSYRIAN , if you read lslamic history you dont find word assyrian but they use christian and christian are not nation but religion, ITS COUNTIAN variant peoples
@TheObserversTV lslamic historian didn't mention assyrian lol lslamic appearen in 6 thAD century , lol you live in fake hitory,learn fact the assyrian trem is new appear last 150 yeas ago, you christian , not nation it mean sect religion , and dont lie more talking about thing nonexsist , in lraq you claim yourself ASSyrian in syria , sryian in south of lraq cheldean , even you haven't one name , then you use language of other nation (aramian language which belong to aram and they die out too
@goran21715 Ok monkey, your a goof you are not here to debate, I showed you proof of Assyrian term existing before 150 years ago and you ignore the facts, like the John Speed map of Ottoman Empire in 1625 AD which shows ASSYRIANS,,, Tatian and Lucian, early Christians said that they were ASSYRIANS, dont be an idiot, right now if you want I will post to you all quotes on Assyrians IF YOU WANT MORE
You make fun of our language??? You know Kurds dont even have a single language, your lang, is mix
@TheObserversTV Ancient lands in the mountainous regions northeast of Mesopotamia. The exact location and extent cannot be defined, but seems to have been in modern central-western Iran.Subartu is mentioned several times in Sumerian texts, as one of Akkad's immediate neighbours, by Sumerian myths as a region of foreign languages.
Subartu was a region of agriculture, and Mesopotamia sent off expeditions to gather slaves here.
@TheObserversTV The land of Subartu (sumerisch KUR SU.BIRKI (Akkadian Šubartum/Subartum/ina Šú-ba-ri,Assyrian mât Šubarri) or Subar(Sumerian Su-bir4/Subar/Šubur) is mentioned in Bronze Age literature.The name also appears as Subari in the Amarna letters,&in the form Šbr,in Ugarit. ook up fake of history.assyrian was called him mat-subarri)illiterate its clearly they invasion him land &there where many evidance that akkadian ruled him but exsistance of akkadian naram-sin marriage his doughter to
It is well established historically that when the heartland of Assyria was back into focus in early Christianity "it was with an ASSYRIAN,,, NOT a Persian let alone Greek, self-identification: the temple of ASHUR was RESTORES, the city was rebuilt, and an Assyrian successor state that returned in the shape of the client kingdom of Adiabene" (Crone, Patricia & Michael Cook. Hagarism: The Making of the Islamic World. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1977).
@TheObserversTV NUZI, ancient city in N.E. Iraq at the present site of Yorghan Tepe, about 10 miles (16 km.) S.W. of Arrapha, modern Kirkuk, near the foothills of southern Kurdistan. Excavations were begun at Nuzi in 1925 by E. Chiera and were continued through 1931 under the joint auspices of the American School of Oriental Research, Harvard University, and the University Museum of Pennsylvania. The earliest occupation of the site can be traced to prehistoric times.
@TheObserversTV first adiabene was jweish king, not assyrian , read clear , lol assyrian die out , you mix btween assyrian and christian,assyrian defead to harran and babylion king kill him there and destroyed the city and remain of population was either subartuian or lullubi which was submissive of assyrian,l tald you go read babbylion chronicle from 614bc to 609bc & see how medes -babylion fall nenivah,then when alexendir invasion region he dont see nenivah or mention id couse it was disappear
@goran21715 Actually, did you know that after the Assyrian empire fell, 1/3 of the Assyrians went to Judaism? Which then became Jewish Assyrians (Hudaye Ashuraye) In fact, today we have Jewish Assyrians, that is why Assyrians went to Christianity in 33 AD
First Century Jewish Historian Flavius Josephus clearly states that the people of Adiabene were Assyrians,
Adiabene was an ancient Assyrian independent kingdom in Mesopotamia, (Located in Modern day Arbil) In fact, Adiabene/Hadya'ab means "We are now Building/Rebuilding" in Assyrian language, it is derived from Assyria in origin...
@TheObserversTV Hurrian names occur sporadically in northern Mesopotamia and the area of Kirkuk in modern Iraq by the Middle Bronze Age. Their presence was attested at Nuzi, Urkesh and other sites. They eventually infiltrated and occupied a broad arc of fertile farmland stretching from the Khabur River valley to the foothills of the Zagros Mountains. I. J. Gelb and E. A. Speiser believed Subarians had been the linguistic and ethnic substratum of northern Mesopotamia since earliest times,
Subartu was not a hurrian city, Subari / Tel Hassuna was Early Assyria.
So I Guess all Lands, Rivers, Mountains of this planet.. These are all Kurdish, right? LOL... There is Mountains in China... I guess China was Kurdish to, hahaha.
@TheObserversTV dont talk before 2500BC AND THEY WAS NOMADIC DWELT IN TENT . LOOK UP TO ASSYRIAN ENCYCLOPEDIA( who are recorded as kings who lived in tents were likely to have been Akkadian semi nomadic pasturalist rulers, nominally independent but subject to the Akkadian Empire, who dominated the region and at some point during this period became fully urbanised and founded the city state of Ashur.)
@TheObserversTV near the border of China,&among the Yhe-chih,which,according to the normal phonetic change in Chinese (after gu ~ yh, ti ~ chi)represent the Guti So the Guti & the Tukri of the 3rd millennium B.C., or at least a part of them, should have migrated already early from Western Iran towards the east and settled at the borders of China. A connection between the tribe name Kuch (KaÇ) It is indeed possible to imagine that the Kuchi and Guti derive from the Aryan word-stem for mountain
@TheObserversTV . Gutium (Qutium), situated in Western Iran, is mentioned already in the presargonic period in a document (ca. 2500 B.C.). The fact that the Guti belonged to the proto-Iranians, is confirmed by their language, which is attested mainly by personal names. According to them the Guti spoke an Indo-European language, which was close to the Tokharian.[158] The relation between the Tokharian and the Aryan is corroborated by linguistic remnants in Tokharian and the
According to historians, the Assyrians used to pay tribute to the Persian Kings, in fact, under Persian King Darius in 520 BC, it is shown that Assyrians from Hakkari and Nineveh tried to resist against Persian rule to gain Independence for Assyria again... If there were people, building under the persian empire and fighting the persian empire called "Assyrians" then ASSYRIANS did in fact EXIST after the fall of the Assyria. Assyrians REBUILT the Temple of Susa in 500 BC.
@TheObserversTV what tribute you talk , the assyrian desroyed and assyrian was die out and the area was part of archamet empire . there wasn't assyrian after fall the trittory was geographical was know assyrian , even tell heroduets was know area ass medes empire disped they archmaedets was ruling , couse the geek was recognize between medes aqnd persian , they was work in Susa like laborer . real you fake history nowaday in turkey there are less 20000 as you claim assyrian lol assyrian die out
Fred Aprim and my Friend has the Book of the 19th century Scholar William Wigram... There is NOTHING in the book that states that he invented the nation, in fact, William Wigram theory was EXPOSED.
Look up JOHN SPEED 1625 AD MAP which shows ASSYRIANS as Citizens in the OTTOMAN EMPIRE. This is HUNDREDS of YEARS Before WIGRAM WAS BORN.
By around 6000 BC people had moved into the foothills Piedmont of northernmost Mesopotamia where there was enough rainfall to allow for "dry" agriculture in some places These were the first farmers in northernmost Mesopotamia.
At Tell Hassuna, adobe dwellings built around open central courts with fine painted pottery replace earlier levels with crude pottery and Hand axes / cutting trees/ wood work
Tel = Hill = Hassuna = Axe = Wood Cutters in ASSYRIAN LANGUAGE
By the way Ka DINGIR Ra is shown to be of Sumerian origin, Not Hurrian.
I dont care about Halabja/iranic people called lulu and Khamza
How can you say there was trade between Khamza and Ugarit when KHAMZA IS BARELY EVEN KNOWN IN HISTORY... and There is NO WHERE that shows Lulu trading with Ugarit... NO WHERE.
Why do you ignore the facts? I showed you Assyrians in Anatolia 4000+ years ago, yet you are still saying 14nth century LOL.
@TheObserversTV The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan)peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea &Mediterranean sea ,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,and came into contact with the Altaic(Turkic,mongol) & china,The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea&Mongols (turk) invasion Aryan land in the east of him land
ka-din-gir-ra ) is meaning burn hay e in kurlanguage
@TheObserversTV lol its subartu -hurrian city . the there were kur its important word in sumerian it mean mountian . grave . land , earth and deep still have all these meaning in kurdish , learn yoou negro nomadic tribes invasion mesoptamia ,
@TheObserversTV The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea & Mediterranean sea,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,&came into contact with the Altaic (Turkic,mongol) and china,The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea&Mongols invasion Aryan land in the east of him land, the erea was aryan befor semite invasion and cossing red sea
"The Assyrians lived in Anatolia during the copper age (2000+ BC), provided metal, as well did copper-tin and leather trades throughout Mesopotamia and inside of Anatolia."
@TheObserversTV lol it was trading not ruling, all your history are fake , then you thought all peoples was sane race , more 75% of assyrian empire was lullubi and subartuian peoples and they not semite peoples, go read babylion crochical of fall of neinvah , the the ASSyrian is new term . invator by english scholare in 19th century to weak ottmany empire , the assyrian extinct with fall of nenivah m and language die out too , the language you claim assyrian is not right , you use age (aramic)
The Assyrian is New Term? Inventor by English Scholar in 19th century?
Can you show me proof of this please? because MY FRIEND has the book of that '19th century Scholar' That was WITH ASSYRIANS... In fact, he wrote in his book that he told the people how to say THEIR NAME in the ENGLISH LANGUAGE... The people were calling themselves ASHURAYE/ASHURAYA.... English does not use that term 'Aye' instead they use 'ia/ian'
@goran21715 look up "Assyria after the fall of the empire:612 BC-1900 AD" Just because an Empire falls, doesn't mean an extinction of a people, In fact, Jewish Historian Josephus says that Adiabene ARE ASSYRIANS (Adiabene was an Independent Assyrian kingdom AFTER Fall of Nineveh)
google this "Akkadian words in Modern Assyrian" .. You will see the EVOLUTION STATE of Assyrian language through the Akkadian language... Also look up "Assyrian Identity (Part 3): Assyrian Language"
@TheObserversTV l know Adiabene was astrype peresian endepending that was name of tritorry not nation lol the name heler was homonym by greek that mean it was kurdish city , believe me they sxtinct with fall ,assyrian defead to harran and there they kill all and ditroyed harran, read by babylion sourse, you speak aramic not assyrian and l tald you you can't understand one ancient assyrian word ,and you talk about ashurbanibal its stolen from babylion not effort of assyrian , assyrian die out
@goran21715 The fifth century B.C. Herodotus describes the Assyrian troops as part of the Persian empire's army of king xerexes (486-465/4): "The Assyrians went to war with helmets upon their head, made of brass, and plated in strange fashion, which is not easy to describe. ....
Archaeological discoveries also indicate that the Assyrian community in Ashur "[c]ontinued to worship it's national god and his consort, on the same spot as their ancestors had done before the disasters of 612 B.C.,
@TheObserversTV Southeastern Turkey together with fair sized portions of the Zagros mountain slopes in Iraq and Iran is inhabited by people known as the Kurds. They speak an Indo-Aryan language. It is generally agreed that they were undoubtedly the people called the Kardouchoi who even then (406 BC) caused Xenophon and his Ten Thousand great trouble ...
@TheObserversTV In the ancient world the Kurdish people formed three kingdoms; the Gutium Kingdom, the Kingdom of Lullu & the Urartu Kingdom and also two empires;the Kassite Empire and the Hurrian-Mitanni Empire.As a matter of fact during the empire period of the second millennium BC the Kassite Empire and the Hurrian-Mitanni Empire had control over the ancient world. Under the new axis of power the power of the ancient Kurds declined and became nominally under the domination of the Achaemenian
@TheObserversTV all map and info on google we dont depend to one sourse but many sourse,l heard that map from many assyrian priest camed from charch work and politic after fall of bizabite empire and fear of west from rising of ottmany and he dont mention assyrian but was talking about christian and chirch,you know christian was different nation of region,watch to assyrian map in different era and talk the it,l repeat,assyrian extinct &in nation and language,also akkadian extinct with him fall
Subartu did not speak Indo-Aryan language you idiot, it says that there was INFLUENCE from Hurrian tribes TO THE SUBARTU PEOPLE.. Influence does not mean that you are native to it... PERSIANS and URARTU were INFLUENCED by AKKADIAN CUNEIFORM... Does that mean the Persians and Urartu are Akkado-Mesopotamian people? NOOO
@TheObserversTV lol assyrian dont cross tigire14 century , Subartu was dwelt east tigire , when you talking in history you must talikng with evidance and language , assyrian was semite peoples invasion mesopotamia
@goran21715 lol go to khamza (lullubi )they was traded to ugarite theren't assyrian in region between then t, l said you illiterate,you event watching to assyrian kingdom map go watch all maps in14 BCcentury not in map of 7th BC century,they was colony nuder Hurrian Mitanni until fall of mitanni empire m then the Subatuian was inbrederivedd eemy of assyrian, lol dont play of word hassuna is modern name of village Zibar is drevid of szuber(subartu) &they still live in region around musil a&mosh
Subartu and Tel Hassuna were early tribes of Assyria, and Modern day Historians (including Assyriology) Confirms this, look up Simo Parpola and Robert D Biggs, they even STUDIED and WROTE about the Connections between Subartu/ Tel Hassuna and Assyria... In fact, Prof. Robert D Bigg's book dates back the Assyrian connection/history since 10.000 BC till to present day.
@TheObserversTV dont lie,you can't claim subartu was assyrian couse they was indo-aryan language and featuer & had him kingdon in west Van lake mush in north kurdistan&you can't claim any thing before 2500BC,The first scientific excavations there were conducted by a German expedition (1903–13) led by Walter Andrae. Ashur was a name applied to the city, to the country, and to the principal god of the ancient Assyrians.
The site was originally occupied about 2500 BC,nigro & invasion mesopotamia
In the 1950's, archaeologists excavated the first construction of the city of Ashur's temple during the Uruk Period took place around 4750 B.C. This date was then recorded as the beginning of "civilization" in Mesopotamia, when the Mesopotamian people were building the temple they were labeling themselves as "Anshurayu/Ansharayu/Ashuraya" = Meaning Assyrians
If you dont believe me look up 'Anu Ashur Anshar Mesopotamia'
@TheObserversTV Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris, in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified. identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari in Turkey. From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire, Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon, just as Martu, Elam and Sumer marked "west", "east" and "south", respectively.
@goran21715 Tel Hassuna was an early Assyrian tribal people dating back 6000 BC in North Mesopotamia,
The cultures you mention like Jarmo and lulu, those cultures derive around the Halabja province and I dont give two damns about Halabja or Sulaimaniya ... And the Hamazi are an unknown tribe/people ... Yes Between Assyria or Elam... So Hamazi was not in North Mesopotamia, they were just beside it / between it .. All these Iranic tribes you mention I DONT CARE ABOUT.
@TheObserversTV Although Kurds have inhabited their highlands for several millennia BC, their prehistory is not very well known.[1] The earliest known evidence of a unified and distinct culture in the Kurdish mountains dates back to the Halaf culture of 8,000-7,400 years ago. This was followed by the Hurrian period (in Mesopotamia and Zagros-Taurus mountains) which lasted from 6,300 to about 2,600 years ago. The Hurrians spoke a language which was possibly part of the Northeast Caucasian
@TheObserversTV The Hurrians spread out & eventually dominated significant territories outside their Zagros-Taurus mountainous base.However,they did not expand very far from the mountains.the Hurrians divided into a number of clans&subgroups,founding city-states,kingdoms&empires with eponymous clan names.these included the Gutis,Kurti, Khaldi,Nairi,Mushku,Mannaeans (Mannai)Mitanni,Urartu,Lullubi &the Kassites among others.All these tribes were part of the larger group of Hurrians (Khurrites)
@TheObserversTV One of the first written mentions of Subartu is in an inscription of the king of Adab Lugalannemundu(mentioned in real list summeria)that affirms that its power extended to several zones of Mesopotamia.The use of Anachronistic terms demonstrates its falsification.Later,an inscription of the reign of Naram-Without of Acad,declares to have conquered Subartu&salary submissive his Ensi.one of the future Asirias capitals,in Basetki,more moved away of even of Acad,&even in Diyarbakır
@TheObserversTV lol where your sourse to claim that,go read ashur city establish Lullubi which stretched from lake Urmia to the upper reaches of the Diyala River,roughly corresponding with the modern Sulaimania governorate in Iraqi Kurdistan.It was centered at Sharazur plain.Ameka&Arashtua were two southern Zamuan kingdoms.A Nasiku bearing the name of Nur Adad was a Zamuan leader who lauchned a resistance against Assyrian invasions.Lullubi was an indo-aryan whom they held held hegemony on sumer
@goran21715 What Kurdish mountains? There are mountains every where in the Middle east, Iraq has them, Iran has them, Turkey has them, Lebanon has them, Israel has them, Afghanistan has them.. What Mountains mannnn...., Frayne (1990) identified their city Lulubuna or Luluban with the MODERN TOWN HALABJA =( Iranic Tribes)
Tel Hassuna dating back 6000 BC, the Tel Hassuna people were Agricultural and worked a lot with Wood... (Look it up) ... Tel = Hill / Hassuna = Axe = Wood Cutters.
@TheObserversTV where you live, hay nigro assyian you can't recognize Halabja , in lran or iraq ! halabja is city was capital of shahrezor in ottmany era was including kirkuk and sulimania as well as part of Dyala governor you are weak og geoghraphy lol Hassuna and halpha cultuer was Hurrian -Subartu , the assyrian invation region later The first scientific excavations there were conducted by a German expedition (1903–13) led by Walter Andrae. Ashur was a name applied to the city,
@goran21715 Hassuna and Halafa were Hurrian? Stop making a joke of yourself you Pakistani gypsy, it is confirmed that Medes came from Afghno-Pakistan region and migrated into Modern day TEHRAN, Simo Parpola, Robert D Biggs, Richard Frye, all these people know that Assyrians were there BEFORE Hurrians,
Were there Hurrians in in Qal'at Sherqat?? NOOO,, Assyrians were there BEFORE the Hurrians, since third millennium BC
@TheObserversTV ASSyrian ASSgypsy,Hurrian-Subartu was expended from Ararat mountian to north babylion even babylion was established by hurrian and was its name (KA-DIN-GIR-RA) and Sumerian in south even akkadian invasion sumer later , and you must know Hurrian ancient than sumer lol they establish ARBILUM IN 6000 BC, SIMO PARPOLA CANT MAKE YOU HISTORY befor l argue mraq map you thought in lran , l tald you befor go to AKKADIAN EMPIRE MAP you dont see ASSyran on map and see Hurrian kingdom
love the song. Who's the singer?
undisclosedxxx 3 weeks ago
The earliest records in Akkadian all date to the time of Sargon. Sargon was claimed to be the son of La'ibum or Itti-Bel, a humble gardener, and possibly a hierodule, prostitute, or priestess to Ishtar or Inanna.One legend related of Sargon in neo-Assyrian times says that "My mother was a changeling, my father I knew not. The brothers of my father loved the hills.My city is Azurpiranu (the wilderness herb fields),which is situated on the banks of the Euphrates.My changeling mother conceived me,
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@goran21715 So what are these 3 posts supposed to prove?
it is Tel Hassuna not just Hassuna ,,, it is like calling Tel Keppe as Keppe, it doesnt make sense, you need the 2 words together, because it is the name of the area/kingdom, Assyrians / Tel Hassuna was there in North Mesopotamia before any one else... North Mesopotamia is referred to as ASSYRIA... Not Hurria, or Gutia..
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Subartu is the name given during the Early Bronze Age to the area in the middle reaches of the Tigris, the northern part of the four parts into which the world to the Sumerians, and later will be the original nucleus of Assyria.
Inhabited by a Hurrian population, is an area of ancient urbanization and farming, and from Hassuna and Halaf periods.
goran21715 2 months ago
History Already Sargon I is said to be drawn into battle against Subir,what,are there also campaigns against Simurru occupied on Zab:s not completely ruled out.Naram-Sin even claims to have extended his rule until Subartu As the first Assyrian king Ashur should have won against the uballit-Subaraeans(according to the inscriptions of Adad-nirari I)victories.Tukulti-Ninurta I then called the Conqueror of the Subaru & Guti extensive countries,Assurhaddon king of the countries of Subartu,Guti &Hatti
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No one cares about Gutian or Hurrian invaders,
Subartu is an unknown tribe of people.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
I dont care about Guti tribe invasion from 2100 BC ... As well The original homeland of the Kassites is not well known... But it is shown that the Kassite people came from WESTERN IRAN (haha another Iranian tribe) They invaded Babylonia by political assessment.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
By around 6000 BC the Tel Hassuna people had moved into the foothills (piedmont) of northernmost Mesopotamia where there was enough rainfall to allow for "dry" agriculture in some places. These were the first farmers in northernmost Mesopotamia.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV ITS sUBARTU -HURRIAN VILLAGE NOT NIGRO ASSYRRIAN INVADER (Nuzi was a Hurrian administrative center not far from the Hurrian capital at Kirkuk in northern Iraq. The Hurrians are equivalent to the Horites in the Old Testament, also called Hivites and Jebusites. Excavations were carried out at Nuzi by American teams from 1925 to 1933. The major find was more than 5,000 family and administrative archives spanning six generations, ca. 1450–1350 BC.They deal with the social, economic,
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 The town of Gasur was apparently founded during the Akkadian Empire in the late third millennium BC. In the middle second millennium Hurrians absorbed the town and renamed it Nuzi.
Gasur:Akkadian
Nuzi:Hurrian
Gasur was BEFORE Nuzi.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Hurrian, one of a people important in the history and culture of the Middle East during the 2nd millennium bc. The earliest recorded presence of Hurrian personal and place names is in Mesopotamian records of the late 3rd millennium; these point to the area east of the Tigris River and the mountain region of Zagros as the Hurrian habitat. From then on, and especially during the early 2nd millennium, there is scattered evidence of a westward spread of Hurrians.
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV By about 2400 BCE, Hurrians - people who spoke the Hurrian language - had expanded southward from the highlands of Anatolia. They infiltrated and occupied a broad arc of fertile farmland stretching from the headwaters of the Habur River to the foothills of the Zagros Mountains. Sites such as Nuzi (modern Yorghan Tepe), Alalakh and Tell Brak have provided most of our information on the history and archaeology of Mittani and the Hurrians in the second millennium BCE. Washshukkanni
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Do you not get it? Do you not understand that Gasur was the original name and then it was RENAMED to Nuzi by Invading Hurrian forces? Subartu had nothing to do with Hurrians... Hurrians only had some form of Influence on the Subartu people... Subartu were different from the Hurrians and Iranic tribes, because as you said.. As you say... The Hurrians went southward about 2400 BC... So how could the Hurrians be in Arbil since 6000 BC?
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990, Mr. Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu, Lulu, Kassite, and Mittani. Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arrapha.(Mazouri 2002
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Ancient lands in the mountainous regions northeast of Mesopotamia. The exact location and extent cannot be defined, but seems to have been in modern central-western Iran.Subartu is mentioned several times in Sumerian texts, as one of Akkad's immediate neighbours, by Sumerian myths as a region of foreign languages.
Subartu was a region of agriculture, and Mesopotamia sent off expeditions to gather slaves here.
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Subartu is the name given during Age of the old Bronze to the zone located in the average course of Tigris, the North part of the four parts in which is divided to the world for Sumerian, and that later sera the original nucleus of Asiria .
Inhabited by a population Hurrita, is a zone of old urbanization and agricultural operation, already from periods of Hassuna and Halaf .
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@goran21715 Arbil was founded by the Pre-Assyrians called Tel Hassuna,
Tel = Hill/ Hill Top
Hassuna = Axe work/users
The heart of Tel Hassuna was roughly 7 meters high = It was a Hill Kingdom
The people of Tel Hassuna were Agricultural and used a lot of wood work (Notice the word Hassuna meaning Axe users) These were early Assyria and Assyrians are the ONLY people who use the term "Tel" for Cities that are around Hill's or even mountains like our Modern city EX. Tel Keppe.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The Lower Palaeolithic Period:Circa 500,000 to 100,000 BC
Direct evidence of Lower Palaeolithic occupation in Mesopotamia proper is extremely scant. As for excavated sites the sole example is Barda Balka near Chemchemal in northeastern Iraq. Site locations clearly demonstrate a preference for open air habitation with ready access to lakes - swamps - woodlands - open grasslands. Cave sites are extremely rare in contrast to Middle and Upper Palaeolithic occupation. Animals ex
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@goran21715 haalleeee you go all the way to 500.000 BC - 100.000 BC ,
Like I said... Subartu is unknown
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The cave sites of Shanidar and Hazar Merd in northern Iraq represent the only excavated Middle Palaeolithic sites in this region but survey work has revealed an extensive distribution of sites across almost the entire span of Mesopotamia excepting only the southern alluvium where relatively recent river deposits now cover any evidence which may once have existed.
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@goran21715 Yes Middle Paleolithic sites,
So where is this info where it says Subartu came from Southern Russia?
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Subartu. The Tabali or Toboli migrated over the Caucasus like so many others before and after them. Once in southern Russia they became identified with the Muschovites and Sarmatians[4], establishing themselves for a time along the River Volga. Bohn, the editor of Marco Polo's Travels, has this to say:
The Bolgar, Bulgar, or Bulghar, here spoken of is the name of a town and extensive district in Tartary, lying to the eastward of the Volga, and now inhabited by the Bashkirs,
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Subartu is the name given during Age of the old
Subartu is the name given during Age of the old Bronze to the zone located in the average course of Tigris, the North part of the four parts in which is divided to the world for Sumerian, and that later sera the original nucleus of Asiria .
Inhabited by a population Hurrita, is a zone of old urbanization and agricultural operation, already from periods of Hassuna and Halaf .
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Subartu Also called: Subar.Ancient lands in the mountainous regions northeast of Mesopotamia. The exact location and extent cannot be defined, but seems to have been in modern central-western Iran.Subartu is mentioned several times in Sumerian texts, as one of Akkad's immediate neighbours, by Sumerian myths as a region of foreign languages.
Subartu was a region of agriculture,
goran21715 2 months ago
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@TheObserversTV Subartu
Also called: Subar
Ancient lands in the mountainous regions northeast of Mesopotamia. The exact location and extent cannot be defined, but seems to have been in modern central-western Iran.
Subartu is mentioned several times in Sumerian texts, as one of Akkad's immediate neighbours, by Sumerian myths as a region of foreign languages.
Subartu was a region of agriculture,
goran21715 2 months ago
By the way, I dont care about Syria either.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
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@TheObserversTV According to the Sumerian king list, king Hadanish of Hamazi held hegemony over Sumer after defeating Kish, but was in turn defeated by Enshakushanna of Uruk.in 3 millennuim A clay tablet found in the archives at Ebla in Syria bears a copy of a diplomatic message sent from king Irkab-Damu of Ebla to king Zizi of Hamazi,along with a large quantity of wood, hailing him as a brother,&requesting him to send mercenaries in exchange.invader of mesopotamia filthy negro bedouin semite
goran21715 2 months ago
The Akkadian Empire reached its political peak between the 24th and 22nd centuries BC, following the conquests of its founder Sargon of Akkad.
Gutian was in South Iran during the time of Akkadian Empire in Mesopotamia.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
The Gutians practiced hit-and-run tactics, and would be long gone by the time regular troops could arrive to deal with the situation. Their raids crippled the economy of Sumer. Travel became unsafe, as did work in the fields, resulting in famine across Sumer, the Sumerians labeled the Gutians as Stupid or Language of Dogs.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
The fall of Nineveh shocked the ancient world. The Jewish prophet Nahum described the Median armies advancing to the city that had once ruled the Near East.
An attacker advances against you, Nineveh. [...]
The shields of his soldiers are red;
the warriors are clad in scarlet.
The metal on the chariots flashes
on the day they are made ready;
the spears of pine are brandished.
The chariots storm through the streets,
rushing back and forth through the squares.
They look like fla
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Also, Nahum said: O king of Assyria, your shepherds slumber; your nobles lie down to rest. YOUR PEOPLE are SCATTERED on the MOUNTAINS with no one to gather them.
Being Scattered on the mountains with no leadership DOES NOT MEAN EXTINCT.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Iranics have a high incidence of rufism (red hair),with dark maroon red color being relatively common.The modern Iranic custom of applying henna to redden the hair is in concious emulation of a red-haired ideal,&hearkens back to Scythic customs.This is in contrast to the Nordics,who emulate a blonde ideal. Rufism would thus appear to be one of the traits of the Irano-Afghan race.If the Gutians were Iranic,they should have exhibited rufism,along with minor incidences of blondism.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Scythians just like Gutians, came from Afghanistan.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV and you came from Etheopea nigro bedouin afroasian
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Yes you are all from Afghanistan-India, then you went to Iran, because Iran all the way to India are Aryan people,
If Sumerians/Akkadians/Assyrians/Babylonians were Blacks then HALF of the Middle east should be ruled by BLACKS.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India, but in northern Syria in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites, the king of Mitanni,after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara,&Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra,Varuṇa, Indra, and Nāsatya Contemporary equestrian terminology, as recorded in a horse-training manual
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV animal lear we talk intime there werent even one country , all peoples was in trbies befor city stae , you was like monkey wandering in forest of Etheopea and we was in homeland aryan land which btween red sea and chia and mongolia in east
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV pass 2700 years and never they eise lol you lie even you dont read what he write
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 What the heck did you just say? Learn English man.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV go learn lraq geography , halabja in iran ,you are not lraqi
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 I never said Halabja is in Iran, dont put words in my mouth, I know more about Iraqi geography than you.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV A clay tablet found in the archives at Ebla in Syria bears a copy of a diplomatic message sent from king Irkab-Damu of Ebla to king Zizi of Hamazi, along with a large quantity of wood, hailing him as a brother, and requesting him to send mercenaries in exchange.invader of mesopotamia filthy negro bedouin semite in that time there wasn't assyrian in region , l dont forgget you said Hlabja in iran
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 you Moron, I knew Halabja was in Iraq since i was 12 years old you idiot, you cant tell me what I said and what I didn't say because your english level averages a 2nd grade's English level, all I said what the tribes of Lulubi and Hamazi were Iranic tribes that lived in Halabja and I DIDNT CARE ABOUT HALABJA
My clear statement was that I did not care about HALABJA and SULEIMANIYA
Nohadra/Nineveh and Arbil is what I care for and is my land, you can take the lulubi land halabja.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV donkey dont talk about Arbil (Arbil / Hewlêr (as in latin Kurdish) (also written Erbil, or Irbil) (Akkadian: Arba-ilu; Arabic: اربيل Arbīl; Kurdish: ههولیر Hewlêr; Sumerian: Urbilum; Syriac-Aramaic: ܐܪܒܝܠ Arbaelo; Turkish: Erbil) is the fourth largest city in Iraq after Baghdad, Basra and Mosul.The city lies eighty kilometres (fifty miles) east of Mosul, and is the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan.
Urban life at Arbil can be dated back to at least 6000 BC,go talk about SHAR=QAT
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Arbil was founded by the Pre-Assyrians called Tel Hassuna,
Tel = Hill/ Hill Top
Hassuna = Axe work/users
The heart of Tel Hassuna was roughly 7 meters high = It was a Hill Kingdom
The people of Tel Hassuna were Agricultural and used a lot of wood work (Notice the word Hassuna meaning Axe users) These were early Assyria and Assyrians are the ONLY people who use the term "Tel" for Cities that are around Hill's or even mountains like our Modern city EX. Tel Keppe.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The land of Subar (Sumerian Su-bir4/Subar/Šubur) or Subartu (Akkadian Šubartum/Subartum/ina Šú-ba-ri, Assyrian mât Šubarri) was situated at the Tigris, north of Babylonia. The name also appears in the Amarna letters, and, in the form Šbr, in Ugarit. The language of Subartu is referred to in Akkadian as SuKI/SU.BIR4AKI.
The earliest references to the "four quarters" (relative to central Sumer) name Subartu as one of these quarters, along with Martu, Elam, and Akkad (Uri-ki).
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV According to the Sumerian king list, king Hadanish of Hamazi held hegemony over Sumer after defeating Kish, but was in turn defeated by Enshakushanna of Uruk.Subartu other tribes on ancient kurdish ancestoe and Guti tribes thom they fall Akkadian empire2212BC -2000B.C and ruled mesopotamia they expension empire to ELAM ,& other tribes ruled mesopotamia was Kassite from 1700 BC -1100 BC &other forefather of KURD was Metanni whom they expension from anatolia to syria to babylon
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Lullubi (Hamazi ) first came to the attention of archaeologists with the discovery of a vase with an inscription in very archaic cuneiform commemorating the victory of Utug (or Uhub)an early king of Kish,over this place, causing fringe theorist Laurence Waddell in 1929 to speculate that it was to be identified with Carchemish in Syria.It is now generally considered to have been in shahezor modern Halabja city
goran21715 2 months ago
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an Assyrian tablet, circa 3000 B.C.- “The earth is degenerating these days. There are signs civilization is coming to an end. Bribery and corruption abound. Violence is everywhere. Children no longer respect and obey their parents.”
― From an Assyrian tablet, circa 3000 B.C. Old Assyrian Institutions (MOS Studies, 43)
by J.G. Dercksen
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Meaning of that name forgotten? lol, the whole area was called Tel Hassuna which was a Pre-Assyrian Kingdom during 6000 BC.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Ziggurat originates from the Akkadian words meaning "to build on a raised area"
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Actually, there was a temple of Ashur that was founded by Archaeologists in 1950 during the Old Uruk period dating back 4750 BC, in fact, it is proven that Temples/Religions was started before cities or states, in fact, Religion was when Mesopotamian civilization started.
Look up the Mesopotamian God's of Old Mesopotamia / Old Sumero-Akkad and SEE Anshur being the FATHER of all.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Later still, the scribes explained his name as a corruption of that of the primeval cosmogonic deity An-sar, the upper firmament, which in the neo-Babylonian age was pronounced Assor. The combination of the attributes of the warrior-god, who was the peculiar god of the commander of the army, with the deified city to which the army belonged, caused Assur to become the national deity of a military nation
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Anu: the god of heaven, "the first one, the heavenly father, the greatest one in heaven and earth, the one who contains the entire universe, the king of the gods, the father/progenitor of the (great) gods, creator of everything." He was the "reflection" of
his father Ansar (= Ashur), with whom he was identified. A personification of the immutable heaven, his word in the "assembly of gods" was final.
This is also supported by Akkadian Speaking/reading Assyriologist Simo Parpola
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The origin of the city (now Kala'at Shergat), which was built on the western bank of the Tigris between the Upper and Lower Zab, went back to pre-Sem times, and the meaning of the name was forgotten (see Genesis 2:14, where the Hiddekel or Tigris is said to flow on the eastern side of Asshur). To the North of the junction of the Tigris and Upper Zab,
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV ANU was early sumerian god , talk about ashur idiot l readed ANU its not assyrian its ongogle in that time non exsist of assyrian in mespotamia it was city state even no mention of akkadian , the akkadian invasion mesopotamia in 2350 BC
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Dumby, thats the point, Anu's father was ASHUR/ANSHUR
Akkadian (əkā'dēən), extinct language belonging to the East Semitic subdivision of the Semitic subfamily of the Afroasiatic family of languages (see Afroasiatic languages). Also called Assyro-Babylonian, Akkadian (or Accadian) was current in ancient Mesopotamia (now Iraq) from about 3000 B.C.
Akkad was known as the "Northern Fringe of Sumer"
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Evidence found of brain surgery 4,000 years ago, Archeologists discovered an important cemetery on their first day of excavations in the Kaniş region The examination of a skeleton found during archaeological digs at Kultepe Höyük near the Kayseri-Sivas highway suggests that the Assyrian tradesman’s skull was opened 4,000 years ago to drain the cerebral cortex. “The 4,000-year-old cemetery belongs to the Colonial Era and alongside the skeleton which likely belonged to a male Assyrian tradesman.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
an Assyrian tablet, circa 3000 B.C.- “The earth is degenerating these days. There are signs civilization is coming to an end. Bribery and corruption abound. Violence is everywhere. Children no longer respect and obey their parents.”
― From an Assyrian tablet, circa 3000 B.C. Old Assyrian Institutions (MOS Studies, 43)
by J.G. Dercksen
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV dont lie where your sourse you invasion(Rawlinson was surprised during his research to discover that the founders of the Mesopotamian civilization were of Kushite origin. He made it clear that the Semitic speakers of Akkad & the non-Semitic speakers of Sumer were both Black or Negro people who called themselves sag-gig-ga “Black Headsâ€In Rawlinsonâ€s day the Sumerian people were recognized as Akkadian or Chaldean,while the Semitic speaking blacks were called Assyrians)
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 If you dont believe me, look up "Sumerian Anshar" Or "Akkadian Anshar" and see the ANCIENT SYMBOL of ANSHAR/ANSHUR.
Anshar according to Mesopotamia civilization, is the Father of the Gods of Mesopotamia...
By the way, How old is the Mittani Symbol and WHAT DID THEY CALL IT?
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Mitanni (Hittite cuneiform KUR URUMi-ta-an-ni,also Mittani Mi-it-ta-ni)or Hanigalbat (Assyrian Hanigalbat,Khanigalbat cuneiform Ḫa-ni-gal-bat)was a loosely organized Hurrian-speaking state in northern Syria &south-east Anatolia from1500BC1300 BC.Founded by an Indo-Aryan ruling class governing a predominately Hurrian population,Mitanni came to be a regional power after the Hittite destruction of Amorite Babylon created a power vacuum in Mesopotamia.At the beginning of its history
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The first scientific excavations there were conducted by a German expedition (1903–13) led by Walter Andrae. Ashur was a name applied to the city, to the country, and to the principal god of the ancient Assyrians.
The site was originally occupied about 2500 bce by a tribe that probably had reached the Tigris River either from Syria or from the south dont talk befor 2500 bc negor looter of mesopotamia
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Assur (pronounced Ashur), which dates from the 3rd millennium BC, Modern Historians believe that Assur was inhabited during the 3rd millennium BC.
By the way, you say Assyrians occupied Ashur City 2500 BC... Can you show me if there was any other people in Ashur city before 2500 BC?
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
By the way, a revolution or liberating a land can cause destruction, But WHERE did Assyrians DESTROY the City itself ?!?! Assyrians never destroyed it, they liberated it, which caused damage, then they made it BETTER, in fact it is proven that the area of modern day Kirkuk reached its full capacity under the Neo-Assyrian Empire,
Thats not the case, what the case is, is that Gasur was Akkadian, it had nothing to do with NAZI (... or nuzi) lol
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The earliest occupation of the site can be traced to prehistoric times. During the middle of the third millennium B.C.E. the place was called Gasur (Foster 1987). The city reached the height of its importance during the 15th–14th centuries B.C.E., when it was called Nuzi and was part of the Mitanni Empire centered in northern Syria; its population largely spoke the Hurrian language, though they wrote in Akkadian. It was destroyed by the Assyrians in the 14th century B.C.
goran21715 2 months ago
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@goran21715 "The city reached the height of its importance during the 15th–14th centuries B.C.E., when it was called Nuzi and was part of the Mitanni Empire"
1400 BC was when the Mittani first entered as a kingdom in North Mesopotamia, so they invaded..
Akkadian: Gasur
Hurrio-Mittani: Nuzi
Assyrio-Akkad liberated Gasur in the 14th century BC.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
EXACTLY GASUR, THANK YOUUU
You know the Hittites called Akkad as " Kur Aga-deki" Which means Land of Akkad ... So if the Hittites or Sumerians were all the way to China, and called Beijing as Kur for being a land or for having a mountain, does this mean it is Kurdish?!?! LOOL
You know there was a Big tribe called Asher that dates back over 3000 years ago in Israel... I guess they were Assyrians too, right?! LOOL.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
What are you afraid of? Look up "The Islamic Period Assyrian 612 BC-1900 AD" It is FREE ONLINE... So look it up, don't make excuses you parasite.
Subartu and Akkad were different from Hurrians,
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Assyrian history begins with the high priests (patesis) of Assur. The earliest known to us are Auspia and Kikia, who bear Mitannian names. The early Semitic rulers, however, were subject to Babylonia, and under Khammurabi (\AMRAPHEL\) Assyria was still a Babylonian province. According to Esar-haddon the kingdom was founded by Bel-bani son of Adasi, who first made himself independent; Hadad-nirari, however, ascribes its foundation to Zulili.
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV A few years later the Assyrian king Bel-kudur-uzur lost his life in battle against the Babylonians, and a new dynasty appears to have mounted the Assyrian throne. About 1120 BC the Assyrian king was Tiglath-pileser I, . In one of his campaigns he made his way to the Mediterranean,which included a crocodile. At Assur he planted a botanical garden stocked with trees from the conquered provinces. After his death the Assyrian power declined;
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Yes, the history of Neo-Assyria is awesome when it comes to Military warfare, even the kings fought.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV On the seal of the king of Mitanni we see the winged solar disk with an eagle& a lion on each side,which symbolize in mythology the deity of the sun and fire.The same features appear on Tigran’s crown, with the same solar disk & the two eagles, one on each side, and the crown itself shaped at the top lie spikes representing the rays of the sun.The similarities are too obvious to be explained away by mere coincidence. why assyrian steal mitanni symbol solar disk and the two eagles
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 The Solar Disc of Ashur/Anshar Symbol dates back since the Old Uruk Period ( 4000 - 3500 BC)
Nisroch (Assyrian Bird God) Dates back over 4000 Years ago, in fact, the Assyrian dance that we do today, originated from that God when the Assyrians were making trades and other activities in Anatolia 4000 years ago to keep warm.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV you idiot 4000 bc per hisorioc its time befor city state lol you ignore dont understand what you say ,so you hadn;t relation to sumerian , assyrian upper mesopotamia the Gutian had mrelation to established sumer civilation but non assyrian
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Indo-Aryan.Because of the association of Indo-Aryan with horsemanship & the Mitanni it is presumed that,after superimposing themselves as rulers on a native Hurrian-speaking population about the15th-16th centuries BC,Indo-Aryan charioteers were absorbed into the local population &adopted the Hurrian language or Caucasian origin in the Mitannian area&associates with an Indo-Aryan presence the peacock motif found in the Middle East from before1600BC&quite likely from before2100 BC.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Aryans were gypsies from Pakistan/iran
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV According to the present article the first Iranian prophet who laid the foundation for sun worship (Mitraism) was called Mehabad. Abad Bozorg (the big Abad), who was a pious ruler in Iranovich was born 3593 years before the birth of Prophet Zoroaster. He laid the foundation of monotheism or divine worship and a constitution based on justice which was known as Mitradad. you are negro gypsy bedouin dwell tent
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 I dont care about Iranians, but obviously because your people are from their you care about it lol
If Mesopotamians were Black, then the Black population should be HALF of the Middle east population
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The dominant type was Semitic,with full lips,somewhat hooked nose, high forehead,black hair &eyes,fresh complexion&abundance of beard.In character the Assyrians were cruel & ferocious in war,keen traders,stern disciplinarians, &where religion was concerned, intense a& intolerant.Like the Ottoman Turks they formed a military state,at the head of which was the king, who was both leader in war & chief priest, &which offered a striking contrast to theocratic state of theBabylonians.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Actually, the Zagros/iranic people have the Hooked nose and Dark skin as well are midgets
According to what the Archaeological / Linguistic and Biblical evidence tells us that the Oldest Semitic attestation of Words and Writing system was around Syria and Mesopotamia... The first attestation of Proto-Arabic in Saudi Arabia dates back to the 8th century BC, While the First writing system of Semitism dating back almost 4500 years ago dates back to Mesopotamia.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV NO Zagros peoples was per aryan , go read Gutian and lullubi and subartuian featuer and it disccribe in letter in tell al amarria , foolish go read history the akkadian and leater assyrian borrow writing system from sumerian , you was nomadic tribes and bedouin , even was useing sumerian skill to him offical
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Wait... I thought you said that Both Sumerian and Akkadian were Black.. Now you disagree???
Pre Aryan, Modern Aryan, its the same thing, you are all Iranic / Central Asian
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV lol l say Gutianian , (According to linguistics &internal evidence of the Avesta,the IranoAryan language family originated high in the splendid Hind Kush mountains of Afghanistan.Historical data indicates that one of these ProtoIranic-speaking tribes was denominated Gut'This ancient Iranic root denominated "warrior,as the erudite Waddell notes,the affixed title of Gut or 'Warrior(Waddell1929, )
goran21715 2 months ago
Yes Gutian is from Afghno-iranc Tribes.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Abundant evidence supporting the connection between Kurds and Gutians is further provided by toponyms in Kurdistan. In fact, the place-name Mt. Judi and the Kurdish clan of Judikanlu are fossil remnants of the awesome name left behind by the 'Guti', as a researcher notes, "For about two centuries (circa 2,200 to 2,000 BC) the Gutis gained the upper military hand over the Mesopotamian (primarily, Sumerian) states.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Gutians were from Iran so I dont care.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The Kassites(Ka-spi) were an ancient people known primarily for establishing the second, or middle, Babylonian dynasty; they were believed to have originated in the Zagros Mountains of Iran. First mentioned in Elamite texts of the late 3rd millennium BC,, but secured holdings within the Tigris-Euphrates valley on the northern frontiers of Babylonia . Chronicles and king lists are imprecise, and although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years,
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea and Mediterranean sea ,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,and came into contact with the Altaic (Turkic,mongol) and china,
The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea&Mongols (turk) invasion Aryan land in the east of him land , you idiot dont understand meaning
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 No moron, I dont understand your poor grammar, there was no 'semite invasion' and Aryan land was from Iran to India.. Aryans have nothing to do with Mesopotamia.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV According to the Sumerian king list, king Hadanish of Hamazi held hegemony over Sumer after defeating Kish, but was in turn defeated by Enshakushanna of Uruk.in 3 millennuimA clay tablet found in the archives at Ebla in Syria bears a copy of a diplomatic message sent from king Irkab-Damu of Ebla to king Zizi of Hamazi, along with a large quantity of wood, hailing him as a brother, and requesting him to send mercenaries in exchange.invader of mesopotamia filthy negro bedouin semie
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea and Mediterranean sea,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,&came into contact with the Altaic(Turkic,mongol)&china,The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea&Mongols (turk) invasion Aryan land in the east of him land that range of aryan you negro semite invasion aryan land
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 If Middle Eastern historians want a laugh,, they should look at this info you just gave me.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV l know you read fake history , l tald it befor you to your master Simo parpola , you dont answer me what mean common word of sumerian in your damb extinct language and the meaning of (KA-DIN-GIR-RA) and Ziggurat
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Ka DINGIR Ra was of Sumerian Origin.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV it was Gutian village befor akkadian invasion , and in guti or in kurdi language noaday meaning BURN HAY STORE
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Ka.DINGIR.Ra has nothing to do with Gutian Dogs (Sumerian called Gutian as Doggies) The term Ka.DINGIR.Ra originates from Sumerian, the Gutians were Iranian tribes from South Iran.
Akkadian: Bab'ilu
Sumerian: Ka.Dingir.Ra
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke. The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back, and a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule. Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians, Badawy notes, "The Akkadian dynasty (2350-2150 BC) marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia
goran21715 2 months ago
Kurds have different dialects, in fact, they dont have a single writting system... Half of the Kurds write in Arabic and the other half write in Latin,,,, Example is Sorani Kurds do not understand Kurmanci kurds, and the main language of Kurd is of Farsi origin,
You people cant even understand each other yet you make fun of Aramaic hahaha
LOOK UP (Akkadian Words in Modern Assyrian - Assyrian International News) This will show you ;)
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Still though, Read up on Tel Hassuna (Hill of Axe Workers/Users) which dates in the Most northern part of Mesopotamia since 6000 BC, (you do know that Assyrians are the ONLY PEOPLE to name their cities with 'Tel' which is the traditional word for cities that had hills or mountains, Tel means Hill / Hill Top in Assyrian language),
in fact, places, like Tel Keppe, Tel Talmer, Tel Baz..., Etc... are all of Assyrian origin
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The Sumerian mythological epic Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta lists the countries where the "languages are confused" as Subartu, Hamazi, Sumer, Uri-ki (Akkad), and the Martu land (the Amorites). Similarly, the earliest references to the "four quarters" by the kings of Akkad name Subartu as one of these quarters around Akkad, along with Martu, Elam,& Sumer.Subartu in the earliest texts seem to have been farming mountain dwellers,lol where mention of ASSyrian in early sumerian era
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The earliest occupation of the site can be traced to prehistoric times. During the middle of the third millennium B.C.E. the place was called Gasur (Foster 1987). The city reached the height of its importance during the 15th–14th centuries B.C.E., when it was called Nuzi and was part of the Mitanni Empire centered in northern Syria; its population largely spoke the Hurrian language, though they wrote in Akkadian. It was destroyed by the Assyrians in the 14th century B.C.E.
goran21715 2 months ago
The main Religions in Adiabene were JUDAISM and ASHURISM,,, By the way, I dont like to repeate myself, ok? Nuzi was an OCCUPATION NAME... The real name of that city was GASUR which was Words of AKKADIAN ORIGIN that date back since the 3rd Millennium BC
I will say this AGAIN AS WELL... I DONT CARE for IRANIC TRIBES... (Medes, Lulu's, Gutians..) Those people were Iranian dwellers, stirring up trouble.
Actually it states that Ashur city was founded during the 3RD MILLENNIUM BC.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV religion is different to nation any ine can believe to regligion which he believe to it different nation coverted to christian throgh the time , many peoples execution when they converted to christian in haabja in era of comberss II,THAT NOT IMPORTANT I TALD YOU YOU ARE FAKE OF ASSYRIAN,ASSYRIAN EXTINCT WITH FALL OF ASSYRIAN , if you read lslamic history you dont find word assyrian but they use christian and christian are not nation but religion, ITS COUNTIAN variant peoples
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Look up "The Islamic Period Assyrian 612 BC-1900 AD" ... This will turn your thoughts around ;)
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV lslamic historian didn't mention assyrian lol lslamic appearen in 6 thAD century , lol you live in fake hitory,learn fact the assyrian trem is new appear last 150 yeas ago, you christian , not nation it mean sect religion , and dont lie more talking about thing nonexsist , in lraq you claim yourself ASSyrian in syria , sryian in south of lraq cheldean , even you haven't one name , then you use language of other nation (aramian language which belong to aram and they die out too
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Ok monkey, your a goof you are not here to debate, I showed you proof of Assyrian term existing before 150 years ago and you ignore the facts, like the John Speed map of Ottoman Empire in 1625 AD which shows ASSYRIANS,,, Tatian and Lucian, early Christians said that they were ASSYRIANS, dont be an idiot, right now if you want I will post to you all quotes on Assyrians IF YOU WANT MORE
You make fun of our language??? You know Kurds dont even have a single language, your lang, is mix
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Ancient lands in the mountainous regions northeast of Mesopotamia. The exact location and extent cannot be defined, but seems to have been in modern central-western Iran.Subartu is mentioned several times in Sumerian texts, as one of Akkad's immediate neighbours, by Sumerian myths as a region of foreign languages.
Subartu was a region of agriculture, and Mesopotamia sent off expeditions to gather slaves here.
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The land of Subartu (sumerisch KUR SU.BIRKI (Akkadian Šubartum/Subartum/ina Šú-ba-ri,Assyrian mât Šubarri) or Subar(Sumerian Su-bir4/Subar/Šubur) is mentioned in Bronze Age literature.The name also appears as Subari in the Amarna letters,&in the form Šbr,in Ugarit. ook up fake of history.assyrian was called him mat-subarri)illiterate its clearly they invasion him land &there where many evidance that akkadian ruled him but exsistance of akkadian naram-sin marriage his doughter to
goran21715 2 months ago
It is well established historically that when the heartland of Assyria was back into focus in early Christianity "it was with an ASSYRIAN,,, NOT a Persian let alone Greek, self-identification: the temple of ASHUR was RESTORES, the city was rebuilt, and an Assyrian successor state that returned in the shape of the client kingdom of Adiabene" (Crone, Patricia & Michael Cook. Hagarism: The Making of the Islamic World. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1977).
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV NUZI, ancient city in N.E. Iraq at the present site of Yorghan Tepe, about 10 miles (16 km.) S.W. of Arrapha, modern Kirkuk, near the foothills of southern Kurdistan. Excavations were begun at Nuzi in 1925 by E. Chiera and were continued through 1931 under the joint auspices of the American School of Oriental Research, Harvard University, and the University Museum of Pennsylvania. The earliest occupation of the site can be traced to prehistoric times.
goran21715 2 months ago
Then why did Josephus Historian say that the people of Adiabene were Assyrians.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV first adiabene was jweish king, not assyrian , read clear , lol assyrian die out , you mix btween assyrian and christian,assyrian defead to harran and babylion king kill him there and destroyed the city and remain of population was either subartuian or lullubi which was submissive of assyrian,l tald you go read babbylion chronicle from 614bc to 609bc & see how medes -babylion fall nenivah,then when alexendir invasion region he dont see nenivah or mention id couse it was disappear
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Actually, did you know that after the Assyrian empire fell, 1/3 of the Assyrians went to Judaism? Which then became Jewish Assyrians (Hudaye Ashuraye) In fact, today we have Jewish Assyrians, that is why Assyrians went to Christianity in 33 AD
First Century Jewish Historian Flavius Josephus clearly states that the people of Adiabene were Assyrians,
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Adiabene was an ancient Assyrian independent kingdom in Mesopotamia, (Located in Modern day Arbil) In fact, Adiabene/Hadya'ab means "We are now Building/Rebuilding" in Assyrian language, it is derived from Assyria in origin...
Adiabene was an Independent Assyrian kingdom
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Hurrian names occur sporadically in northern Mesopotamia and the area of Kirkuk in modern Iraq by the Middle Bronze Age. Their presence was attested at Nuzi, Urkesh and other sites. They eventually infiltrated and occupied a broad arc of fertile farmland stretching from the Khabur River valley to the foothills of the Zagros Mountains. I. J. Gelb and E. A. Speiser believed Subarians had been the linguistic and ethnic substratum of northern Mesopotamia since earliest times,
goran21715 2 months ago
Subartu was not a hurrian city, Subari / Tel Hassuna was Early Assyria.
So I Guess all Lands, Rivers, Mountains of this planet.. These are all Kurdish, right? LOL... There is Mountains in China... I guess China was Kurdish to, hahaha.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV dont talk before 2500BC AND THEY WAS NOMADIC DWELT IN TENT . LOOK UP TO ASSYRIAN ENCYCLOPEDIA( who are recorded as kings who lived in tents were likely to have been Akkadian semi nomadic pasturalist rulers, nominally independent but subject to the Akkadian Empire, who dominated the region and at some point during this period became fully urbanised and founded the city state of Ashur.)
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV near the border of China,&among the Yhe-chih,which,according to the normal phonetic change in Chinese (after gu ~ yh, ti ~ chi)represent the Guti So the Guti & the Tukri of the 3rd millennium B.C., or at least a part of them, should have migrated already early from Western Iran towards the east and settled at the borders of China. A connection between the tribe name Kuch (KaÇ) It is indeed possible to imagine that the Kuchi and Guti derive from the Aryan word-stem for mountain
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV . Gutium (Qutium), situated in Western Iran, is mentioned already in the presargonic period in a document (ca. 2500 B.C.). The fact that the Guti belonged to the proto-Iranians, is confirmed by their language, which is attested mainly by personal names. According to them the Guti spoke an Indo-European language, which was close to the Tokharian.[158] The relation between the Tokharian and the Aryan is corroborated by linguistic remnants in Tokharian and the
goran21715 2 months ago
According to historians, the Assyrians used to pay tribute to the Persian Kings, in fact, under Persian King Darius in 520 BC, it is shown that Assyrians from Hakkari and Nineveh tried to resist against Persian rule to gain Independence for Assyria again... If there were people, building under the persian empire and fighting the persian empire called "Assyrians" then ASSYRIANS did in fact EXIST after the fall of the Assyria. Assyrians REBUILT the Temple of Susa in 500 BC.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV what tribute you talk , the assyrian desroyed and assyrian was die out and the area was part of archamet empire . there wasn't assyrian after fall the trittory was geographical was know assyrian , even tell heroduets was know area ass medes empire disped they archmaedets was ruling , couse the geek was recognize between medes aqnd persian , they was work in Susa like laborer . real you fake history nowaday in turkey there are less 20000 as you claim assyrian lol assyrian die out
goran21715 2 months ago
Fred Aprim and my Friend has the Book of the 19th century Scholar William Wigram... There is NOTHING in the book that states that he invented the nation, in fact, William Wigram theory was EXPOSED.
Look up JOHN SPEED 1625 AD MAP which shows ASSYRIANS as Citizens in the OTTOMAN EMPIRE. This is HUNDREDS of YEARS Before WIGRAM WAS BORN.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
By around 6000 BC people had moved into the foothills Piedmont of northernmost Mesopotamia where there was enough rainfall to allow for "dry" agriculture in some places These were the first farmers in northernmost Mesopotamia.
At Tell Hassuna, adobe dwellings built around open central courts with fine painted pottery replace earlier levels with crude pottery and Hand axes / cutting trees/ wood work
Tel = Hill = Hassuna = Axe = Wood Cutters in ASSYRIAN LANGUAGE
Look up "Assyrian TEL KEPPE"
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Show me ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE that Hurrians established Arbil in 6000 BC ... SHOW ME EVIDENCE you KERI-BA KER-DI.
Tel Hassuna (Assyrian Tribes) were there since 6000 BC, Assyrians/ Tel Hassuna built Arbil, not Hurrians.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
By the way Ka DINGIR Ra is shown to be of Sumerian origin, Not Hurrian.
I dont care about Halabja/iranic people called lulu and Khamza
How can you say there was trade between Khamza and Ugarit when KHAMZA IS BARELY EVEN KNOWN IN HISTORY... and There is NO WHERE that shows Lulu trading with Ugarit... NO WHERE.
Why do you ignore the facts? I showed you Assyrians in Anatolia 4000+ years ago, yet you are still saying 14nth century LOL.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan)peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea &Mediterranean sea ,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,and came into contact with the Altaic(Turkic,mongol) & china,The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea&Mongols (turk) invasion Aryan land in the east of him land
ka-din-gir-ra ) is meaning burn hay e in kurlanguage
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Ka DINGIR Ra was Sumerian of origin, it had nothing to do with Indo-Europeans or Aryans
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV lol its subartu -hurrian city . the there were kur its important word in sumerian it mean mountian . grave . land , earth and deep still have all these meaning in kurdish , learn yoou negro nomadic tribes invasion mesoptamia ,
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea & Mediterranean sea,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,&came into contact with the Altaic (Turkic,mongol) and china,The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea&Mongols invasion Aryan land in the east of him land, the erea was aryan befor semite invasion and cossing red sea
goran21715 2 months ago
"The Assyrians lived in Anatolia during the copper age (2000+ BC), provided metal, as well did copper-tin and leather trades throughout Mesopotamia and inside of Anatolia."
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV lol it was trading not ruling, all your history are fake , then you thought all peoples was sane race , more 75% of assyrian empire was lullubi and subartuian peoples and they not semite peoples, go read babylion crochical of fall of neinvah , the the ASSyrian is new term . invator by english scholare in 19th century to weak ottmany empire , the assyrian extinct with fall of nenivah m and language die out too , the language you claim assyrian is not right , you use age (aramic)
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Where 75%? There was no 75% ...
The Assyrian is New Term? Inventor by English Scholar in 19th century?
Can you show me proof of this please? because MY FRIEND has the book of that '19th century Scholar' That was WITH ASSYRIANS... In fact, he wrote in his book that he told the people how to say THEIR NAME in the ENGLISH LANGUAGE... The people were calling themselves ASHURAYE/ASHURAYA.... English does not use that term 'Aye' instead they use 'ia/ian'
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@goran21715 look up "Assyria after the fall of the empire:612 BC-1900 AD" Just because an Empire falls, doesn't mean an extinction of a people, In fact, Jewish Historian Josephus says that Adiabene ARE ASSYRIANS (Adiabene was an Independent Assyrian kingdom AFTER Fall of Nineveh)
google this "Akkadian words in Modern Assyrian" .. You will see the EVOLUTION STATE of Assyrian language through the Akkadian language... Also look up "Assyrian Identity (Part 3): Assyrian Language"
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV l know Adiabene was astrype peresian endepending that was name of tritorry not nation lol the name heler was homonym by greek that mean it was kurdish city , believe me they sxtinct with fall ,assyrian defead to harran and there they kill all and ditroyed harran, read by babylion sourse, you speak aramic not assyrian and l tald you you can't understand one ancient assyrian word ,and you talk about ashurbanibal its stolen from babylion not effort of assyrian , assyrian die out
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 The fifth century B.C. Herodotus describes the Assyrian troops as part of the Persian empire's army of king xerexes (486-465/4): "The Assyrians went to war with helmets upon their head, made of brass, and plated in strange fashion, which is not easy to describe. ....
Archaeological discoveries also indicate that the Assyrian community in Ashur "[c]ontinued to worship it's national god and his consort, on the same spot as their ancestors had done before the disasters of 612 B.C.,
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
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@TheObserversTV Southeastern Turkey together with fair sized portions of the Zagros mountain slopes in Iraq and Iran is inhabited by people known as the Kurds. They speak an Indo-Aryan language. It is generally agreed that they were undoubtedly the people called the Kardouchoi who even then (406 BC) caused Xenophon and his Ten Thousand great trouble ...
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV In the ancient world the Kurdish people formed three kingdoms; the Gutium Kingdom, the Kingdom of Lullu & the Urartu Kingdom and also two empires;the Kassite Empire and the Hurrian-Mitanni Empire.As a matter of fact during the empire period of the second millennium BC the Kassite Empire and the Hurrian-Mitanni Empire had control over the ancient world. Under the new axis of power the power of the ancient Kurds declined and became nominally under the domination of the Achaemenian
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV all map and info on google we dont depend to one sourse but many sourse,l heard that map from many assyrian priest camed from charch work and politic after fall of bizabite empire and fear of west from rising of ottmany and he dont mention assyrian but was talking about christian and chirch,you know christian was different nation of region,watch to assyrian map in different era and talk the it,l repeat,assyrian extinct &in nation and language,also akkadian extinct with him fall
goran21715 2 months ago
Subartu did not speak Indo-Aryan language you idiot, it says that there was INFLUENCE from Hurrian tribes TO THE SUBARTU PEOPLE.. Influence does not mean that you are native to it... PERSIANS and URARTU were INFLUENCED by AKKADIAN CUNEIFORM... Does that mean the Persians and Urartu are Akkado-Mesopotamian people? NOOO
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
Shu/Su/ba-ri means "Our Son's Home" in Assyrian language
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV lol assyrian dont cross tigire14 century , Subartu was dwelt east tigire , when you talking in history you must talikng with evidance and language , assyrian was semite peoples invasion mesopotamia
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 if Assyrians didn't cross Tigris in 14 century, then HOW DID THEY FIND ASSYRIAN ITEMS IN ANATOLIA 4000 YEARS AGO!!!!!
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@goran21715 lol go to khamza (lullubi )they was traded to ugarite theren't assyrian in region between then t, l said you illiterate,you event watching to assyrian kingdom map go watch all maps in14 BCcentury not in map of 7th BC century,they was colony nuder Hurrian Mitanni until fall of mitanni empire m then the Subatuian was inbrederivedd eemy of assyrian, lol dont play of word hassuna is modern name of village Zibar is drevid of szuber(subartu) &they still live in region around musil a&mosh
goran21715 2 months ago
Subartu and Tel Hassuna were early tribes of Assyria, and Modern day Historians (including Assyriology) Confirms this, look up Simo Parpola and Robert D Biggs, they even STUDIED and WROTE about the Connections between Subartu/ Tel Hassuna and Assyria... In fact, Prof. Robert D Bigg's book dates back the Assyrian connection/history since 10.000 BC till to present day.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV dont lie,you can't claim subartu was assyrian couse they was indo-aryan language and featuer & had him kingdon in west Van lake mush in north kurdistan&you can't claim any thing before 2500BC,The first scientific excavations there were conducted by a German expedition (1903–13) led by Walter Andrae. Ashur was a name applied to the city, to the country, and to the principal god of the ancient Assyrians.
The site was originally occupied about 2500 BC,nigro & invasion mesopotamia
goran21715 2 months ago
In the 1950's, archaeologists excavated the first construction of the city of Ashur's temple during the Uruk Period took place around 4750 B.C. This date was then recorded as the beginning of "civilization" in Mesopotamia, when the Mesopotamian people were building the temple they were labeling themselves as "Anshurayu/Ansharayu/Ashuraya" = Meaning Assyrians
If you dont believe me look up 'Anu Ashur Anshar Mesopotamia'
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris, in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians. Its precise location has not been identified. identifies Subartus with the current Kurdish tribe of Zibaris inhabiting the northern ring around Mosul up to Hakkari in Turkey. From the point of view of the Akkadian Empire, Subartu marked the northern geographical horizon, just as Martu, Elam and Sumer marked "west", "east" and "south", respectively.
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Tel Hassuna was an early Assyrian tribal people dating back 6000 BC in North Mesopotamia,
The cultures you mention like Jarmo and lulu, those cultures derive around the Halabja province and I dont give two damns about Halabja or Sulaimaniya ... And the Hamazi are an unknown tribe/people ... Yes Between Assyria or Elam... So Hamazi was not in North Mesopotamia, they were just beside it / between it .. All these Iranic tribes you mention I DONT CARE ABOUT.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV Although Kurds have inhabited their highlands for several millennia BC, their prehistory is not very well known.[1] The earliest known evidence of a unified and distinct culture in the Kurdish mountains dates back to the Halaf culture of 8,000-7,400 years ago. This was followed by the Hurrian period (in Mesopotamia and Zagros-Taurus mountains) which lasted from 6,300 to about 2,600 years ago. The Hurrians spoke a language which was possibly part of the Northeast Caucasian
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV The Hurrians spread out & eventually dominated significant territories outside their Zagros-Taurus mountainous base.However,they did not expand very far from the mountains.the Hurrians divided into a number of clans&subgroups,founding city-states,kingdoms&empires with eponymous clan names.these included the Gutis,Kurti, Khaldi,Nairi,Mushku,Mannaeans (Mannai)Mitanni,Urartu,Lullubi &the Kassites among others.All these tribes were part of the larger group of Hurrians (Khurrites)
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV One of the first written mentions of Subartu is in an inscription of the king of Adab Lugalannemundu(mentioned in real list summeria)that affirms that its power extended to several zones of Mesopotamia.The use of Anachronistic terms demonstrates its falsification.Later,an inscription of the reign of Naram-Without of Acad,declares to have conquered Subartu&salary submissive his Ensi.one of the future Asirias capitals,in Basetki,more moved away of even of Acad,&even in Diyarbakır
goran21715 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV lol where your sourse to claim that,go read ashur city establish Lullubi which stretched from lake Urmia to the upper reaches of the Diyala River,roughly corresponding with the modern Sulaimania governorate in Iraqi Kurdistan.It was centered at Sharazur plain.Ameka&Arashtua were two southern Zamuan kingdoms.A Nasiku bearing the name of Nur Adad was a Zamuan leader who lauchned a resistance against Assyrian invasions.Lullubi was an indo-aryan whom they held held hegemony on sumer
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 What Kurdish mountains? There are mountains every where in the Middle east, Iraq has them, Iran has them, Turkey has them, Lebanon has them, Israel has them, Afghanistan has them.. What Mountains mannnn...., Frayne (1990) identified their city Lulubuna or Luluban with the MODERN TOWN HALABJA =( Iranic Tribes)
Tel Hassuna dating back 6000 BC, the Tel Hassuna people were Agricultural and worked a lot with Wood... (Look it up) ... Tel = Hill / Hassuna = Axe = Wood Cutters.
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV where you live, hay nigro assyian you can't recognize Halabja , in lran or iraq ! halabja is city was capital of shahrezor in ottmany era was including kirkuk and sulimania as well as part of Dyala governor you are weak og geoghraphy lol Hassuna and halpha cultuer was Hurrian -Subartu , the assyrian invation region later The first scientific excavations there were conducted by a German expedition (1903–13) led by Walter Andrae. Ashur was a name applied to the city,
goran21715 2 months ago
@goran21715 Hassuna and Halafa were Hurrian? Stop making a joke of yourself you Pakistani gypsy, it is confirmed that Medes came from Afghno-Pakistan region and migrated into Modern day TEHRAN, Simo Parpola, Robert D Biggs, Richard Frye, all these people know that Assyrians were there BEFORE Hurrians,
Were there Hurrians in in Qal'at Sherqat?? NOOO,, Assyrians were there BEFORE the Hurrians, since third millennium BC
TheObserversTV 2 months ago
@TheObserversTV ASSyrian ASSgypsy,Hurrian-Subartu was expended from Ararat mountian to north babylion even babylion was established by hurrian and was its name (KA-DIN-GIR-RA) and Sumerian in south even akkadian invasion sumer later , and you must know Hurrian ancient than sumer lol they establish ARBILUM IN 6000 BC, SIMO PARPOLA CANT MAKE YOU HISTORY befor l argue mraq map you thought in lran , l tald you befor go to AKKADIAN EMPIRE MAP you dont see ASSyran on map and see Hurrian kingdom
goran21715 2 months ago