You have to distinguish between information and knowledge. Yes, information is and will be more freely and readily available. But the question is what will you do with it?
Very interesting and a clear explaination of the major issues. As someone who has invested thousands of dollars to educate myself as a visual artist, I worry about how to earn a living when theft of creative ideas happens all the time. People expect me to share everything for free and I don't even get comments for sharing. It sometimes feels like a lonley web. All giving and no earning.
"How do you make a living when everyone is freely sharing their ideas?" We all share everything, then there won't be any need to make a living. Isn't this just Communism? The farmer's food is for everyone, the architect's homes for everyone, the teacher's knowledge for everyone. That's what Communism is, right?
Everything is only as good as the contributors or the creators of the thing....But I absolutely agree the web is amazing and so helpful to us all if we take proper advantage of it and share our resources. What does it matter if you dont gain money if you gain friends and can influence people and they appreciate what you do. So long as you do no harm we who enter this web world are intelligent enough and brave enough to take the best of it and filter out the dross. I love it and I am not young.
Excellent Video! I really enjoyed it. If you're interested in these subjects you may also like the work being done by BEWARE OF IMAGES. It's a feature-length, animated documentary about the history of visual representation. The movie explores the intricate relationship between the technology, regulation and social effects of mass media. Its aim is to serve as an educational and entertaining media literacy tool that can be enjoyed by everyone.
@standardlondon people's ideas will only get lost in the crowd if no-one is listening. The web is not only a community of sharers, but also one of listeners. Sharing ideas does not mean lecturing. The majority of really constructive collaboration on the Internet comes from forums, discussion and networks like Twitter, where people want to find things out. It's not about individual power.
@shahafasgi What the hell are you on about? I'm saying that when everyone is broadcasting their own opinion, they will all get lost in the crowd. I'm not talking about organs...
@standardlondon your body is not seperated. your brain doesn't say "I AM the most important organ!" and the heart says "no, I AM!" , it just doesn't work like that...so we have a community of which everyone creates a single organizm.
True.. monetary rewards don't work when doing even the slightest cognitive skill and competition between free content and not so free content is essentially dually healthy.
great video...lets start thinking with the new way...we must become independent in this points: energy, safety, food and water...and than I can see the infinite possibility for humanking when we could share the ideas and cooperate in every aspect of our days...
Excellent video. What can we do to help bring structure to a conversation with millions of participants? I think we can build a system for that guys. In terms of information technology, maybe we could build a software that gave symbols to categories, not to be creative with out a point but to make looking at big ideas with a lot of parts much easier, and possible to overview.
Beautifully put and right on the money Charles. This is 100% what we practice and we need you to get this message out. Huge congratulations and I will be syndicating your book...!
I'm more pessimistic about it. There's so much crap online that I think it has become harder and harder for people to share good things.
All these ideas are great and look trendy but I believe that education is still much more important. If people are not provided with knwoledge, culture and critical thinking, the web will still be a window for poor quality material and information.
now this is creativity...and like something sweet and tasty, I am drawn in the have more. Satisfied, I am nourished to create my own contribution to these ideas...to think, imagine and create
now this is creativity...and like something sweet and tasty, I am drawn in the have more. Satisfied, I am nourished to create my own contribution to these ideas...to think, imagine and create
Had to read/ view this for a class. Normally I do not comment, but I felt inspired and wanted to be part of the birdsnest. I am so overwhelmed by all the web 2.0 options--who has time? I like to read too :) And exercise. And plus I have a job. What is a wann-be social networker to do?
As usual, Charles's finger is on the pulse. Great design, audio and message. In response to another comment, 'sharing' is not forced - it is just that the rate of sharing exponentially speeds up innovation, By all means, one can observe this process from thew sidelines. But the process will have major impact on social organisations and participation. Well done, Charles
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
You are contradicting yourself, in the very argument you put forward. You just participated, shared your idea in the topic at hand :) And asked for others within this community, whether they stand with your belief.
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
I love this video because as a teacher it suggests to me a new paradigm of education, where knowledge no longer 'belongs' to the curriculum or the teacher but is discovered and shared by learners.
is the purpose of our existance to improve oneself mentally or to be determined by the objects we have around us. By sharing knowledge you provoke response. If the response is negative and you can not win the arguement you are therefore wrong and learn that you are wrong. However, without sharing your knowledge you will never find our if your wrong...
@mouldy543 You may be right, but sometimes people dont respond, and just absorb what you shared as new knowledge. This happens a lot and it's the reason for the massive amount of misinformation being shared and spread in the web.....
Very thought provoking and timely - this needs to be thought through as things are happening so quickly. I agree the old corporations are on the way out - history is being made and our futures are being reshaped in an extraordinary way. Even we cannot predict how different things will become.
How do you protect privacy? As we evolve into a society of sharing digital communities, we become gatekeepers to our own knowledge. Each individual has the autonomy to determine what they will share or retain.
How do we protect what is private? this is a good question - the basics: how to create value? how to get recognition? finally - how to make more investment(time and money) on this?
@gransoporo I'm more pessimistic about it. There's so much crap online that I think it's harder and harder for people to share good things.
All these ideas are great and look trendy but I believe that education is still much more important. If people are not provided with knwoledge, culture and critical thinking, the web will still be a window for poor quality material and information.
...incidentally, my learning community (see my prev comment) was in 2002 in a big broadcasting organisation, and collaborative knowledge-sharing was very much an uphill struggle. Reading your book I now understand why I had such a hard time!
I think there's a lot to learn as this new world emerges. But I'm really enjoying your book and the notions that we are in some ways rediscovering the pre-industrial past in the way we are creating communities.
Having started an online learning community based on people doing projects that interested them and sharing the results, I think the one thing I've noticed is that people express a need for "more information" when what they really need is something much richer - connection, community?
You have Stimulated notions of the possibility of a world less obsessed with material gain, and more interested in creative participation; in some eyes a step closer to a form of utopia. But just because people offer up their ideas freely doesnt mean that someone else wont profit from them. Indeed you yourself (Charlie) are earning a living from raising such questions, and presumably profiting from the contributions of others to your latest book (?).
With regard to democracy, does this ability to communicate and discuss- given a voice- really help if they are not satisfied with the system itself? In terms of the internet, people are given the capability of discussion through platforms such as this one (or facebook, flickr etc). In (uk) democratic politics our voice (translated into a vote) is only meaningful if a party represents our opinions. I feel, in UK politics at the moment, this isnt the case.
This opinion I believed is shared by many others- shown by the ever falling participation rates. How is our voice heard, if what it is saying, is that it is dissatisfied with the existing system (or platform which gives it the voice in the first place)?
In the economic sphere, the belief is that somehow a gap in the market would be filled (your mountain bike example springs to mind). But how do people translate this to the political realm?
Guys please don't comment when you dont understand what this video is about, Its called the "We Think" Ideology, I studied it in Media studies and am about to take the exam tomorrow on this subject. Its just a concept that you stupid americans wouldnt understand anyway, all you care about is eating yourself untill your obese and watching others starving. Leave this kind of ideology to people that have a brain.
Here we go. So you've got a computer AND you go to university. Thats the top 5% in the world mate. So you're another little rich kid rebelling and feeling guilty because mummy and daddy have enough money to send you to university. What a joke, you want to get rid of the system that has allowed your parents to make enough money to send you to university.
College actually. In the UK we leave high school at 16 and education (apart from uni) is free until we are 19 (payed through taxes). 1 in 3 children in the UK live in poverty :O
I live in Uk so am aware of that. And youre right, facts such as that are shocking. But you have to look at the casues of this kind of poverty, its cyclical. People living on multiple benefits have less of an incentive to look for work and get out of the cycle. Giving someone money for doing nothing takes away their independence and self belief. Also, if you were forced to give the money you've worked for to someone else, why would you bother? wheres the incentive to get out of poverty?
It might not be perfect in the UK, but at least anyone can go to uni here, regardless of whether or not their parents can afford it, or have saved up their entire lives.
What is the problem with turning a profit? Why be ashamed about the basic desire to improve our standard of living? Wealth creation is a hugh stimulus to scientific and technological development. The staggering advances of the last 100 years are a direct result of the the industrial revolution. If someone has the next great idea, then why shouldn't they make money from it? Money has the power to improve lives by funding the research/development of the next breakthrough for the human race.
Because while 1 person has something, Another does not.
80% of the worlds population lives in Poverty. 80% of the worlds resources belong to roughly just 20% of the population. Its a horrible statistic, but it is true.
I believe that if you have enough to keep yourself going, and enough to share with others then you are a good person. you should be ashamed of your desire to improve your own standard of living, whilst others do not have such luxuries unless you share an even percentage.
Thats bullshit. You actually think that people should feel 'shame' in wanting to live a better life? what kind of fucked up philosophy is that? your right the statistics don't look good, but what use are statistics to the individual? By your own reasoning you aren't a very good person, that fact that you've got a computer must put you in the top 20%! Shame on you, how can you justify such a luxury?!
I did not ask to be born where I was, If It was my own choice I would never have been born at all. I also study Geography at college, and have aspirations to go and help people all over through voluntary education and manual work, that kind of thing would be awesome education for me but help alot of people. The fact that my mum is manager of a hotel and owns an internet supply doesnt make me a bad person lol... she helps alot of people. Her job is kind of against this whole we think ideology tho
Thankyou for making my point for me. Nobody asks to be born who they are, its pure luck. Why should someone born into the 10% have to feel ashamed about it when it is only by pure chance? The fact that you are not a bad person shows this. Its this repressive, Christian attitude of guilt that I cant stand. Wouldn't it be more of a sin to squander the oppourtunities we have rather than feeling ashamed about them? as per my original post, wealth can improve lives by empowering them.
So the ultimate goal is to eliminate private property and sharing everything? Shall we look up Wikipedia's definition of Socialism and see how close you come? This video, more than any of this wave of crowdsourcing propaganda, makes me want to go out and buy a gun.
Ideas and documents we are sharing, but we don't and never sharing experience unless we lead the kind of life ourselves. Although some industry is decaying as the web growing more and more rapidly, I'm not sorry for that, because industries like the entertainment shouldn't have been that profitable before the web age came. But I still argue that some intelligent right be protected in order to stimulate the thoughts of scientists through stimulating their inner desire to make money.
I think scientist shouldn't do any researches becuase they want to make money but because they want to do the research... money should be the sideeffect not the reason for their work
You are what you share. You, plus me, plus him, plus her. We are what we share. Thus, we are. Community exists. Community we build. We build with internet and communication. We build ourselves. We build through sharing. You are what you share.
Between Kurzweil's "law of accelerating returns," and an education/relationship based economy, we will develop a world where a basically high standard of living is universal...and then on that, people can build up value, based on recognition of their contributions. Currently, higher education is still valued enough to be costly, even though information is freely available, and MIT even made courses freely available. As hardware becomes more like software, knowledge become more like commodity.
We don't need money anymore. We will have a system of sharing for sharing. Why pay for an idea, anyway? At some point, people will realize that we live in a world, not just a country. The internet lets us do this. We think.
Absolutely love this video, instantly made me go and buy the book. Tim's animation is brilliant, also check out what he's done with Throwing Sheep in the Boardroom on youtube.
in the international community formed from the internet people from around the world can share ideas with each other and in turn there will be more production and people will invent more. the internet is bringing the world closer together.
A musician writes music not for money but like any other artyist to be appreciated. Some of the greatest artists lived in poverty. They created for creations sake not for money. Taking inspiration from Alan Watts - we are selfish but when we really follow that thought we realise that everything we want is something other than ourselves. We imply each other... your interest is mine and mine yours, your suffereing is mine and mine yours.
I think is much better to be recognized and to share with other people because is really easy because money is good but that people learn something with my works is much better, we'll have a better world with better and not superficial human beings.
Question? In which program did you make this video?
Nice! BTW, if we take care of the earth and share her fruits equaly we don't need money and/or ownership. We are (creating and sharing, loving and living), so WE ARE.
My opinion: we don't really have to make a shitload of money to live. I mean as long as people share ideas it's useless to have a shitload of money because it would be unnecessary. You can build your own life using your brain. But the most important thing is the afterlife, if you do good in this life and you believe in god and mohammed, you're on the right path. use the best of this life in a good way to make yourself happy in the next life.
the linux income model is that competent people are supposed to be paid for operating and customizing the software, however the ownership of the software is free. This is a lot better model than the current Microsoft with sh-- software and most MS "licensed" network engineers are a joke. Linux kicks serious ass and MS are a bunch of crooks living the good life.
Although I agree that some lesser knowledgeable individual's false perception of the way things work (and subsequent blog about it) may trigger a new line of thought in the tired old mind of the expert that has been stumped by stagnation in the ideas department...but who gets the recognition and how does that put dinner on the table?
In the Linux community, developers get merit according to merit, like the quality of their work and contributions to their respective projects. Their work sometimes lands them well paying jobs at big IT companies, but sometimes not. For most Linux developers they work a real life job and in their spare time on open source software. Your right, andrewbreen, sharing of ideas doesn't put food on the table, but that's OK with me. I like the current order with the internet and Linux being hobbies
Sounds wonderful again, I alone have to save capitalism, and guess what I have to do it for free.. Whoops just created value for YouTube (and Google) and ah also an extra hit and comment for Charles. Mass innovation = mass exploitation. Will commenting pay my bills, will sharing information bring me food on the table, will recognition save me from starvation? Knowledge economy, intellectual labour, affective labour.. Wake up!
On another note, some contributions are so bogus and misinformed that mass sharing of knowledge only serves to dilute the truth and serves to convolute understanding. Maybe if a committee was established to disseminate fact from fiction...
This reeks of communism...never worked in the past, doubt it will now. It's quixotic of us to believe recognition of contribution is enough to sustain us.
The peer to peer sharing of knowledge reeks of scientific community more than communism. Science too mainly works via recognition as the main source of immediate reward.Mass sharing of knowledge often avoids the very risks you warn about by reducing reliance on single untrustworthy sources.
Sadly, scientists turn down the reward of recognition in favor of ill obtain grant money. In a pure world recognition reigns, but as we both know - need I finish?
The average person doesn't know what they are talking about and are sure to drown out the intelligent input by sheer volume, that and they will rarely recognize a valid point made by a truly reasonable individual. Its no wonder mist brilliant minds avoid politics and government.
Very well put andrewbreen. I find a whole lot of people think personal opinion trumps scientific conclusions and with enough personal opinion scientific evidence becomes irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
I don't think that all people share things or give them free because they want recognition, some people give them away or share things with the only motivation of helping. they help someone, or help build a better community, fix something, to make the internet a better place for free. those persons are the internet angels.
your Utopian democracy isn't true democracy, where 'the people speak'. because it isn't used by many people... its like saying,now we have books so everyone is educated.
second, you arn't what you share; you are what you steal.
lastly, an assumption is made that people wish to influence the world positively... if you use statistics or history you will see that it simply isn't so.
i'm not sure if you can buffer out these flaws in the argument, but good luck.
I think it's ignorant and convenient to think that "we are what we share" started with the web. We are what we share has always been. Isaac Newton, Einstein, Hitler, etc are all what they "shared."
Doesn't sound like a Utopia to me. I don't use WOW or Second Life, and won't even get into for fear of negligence of the real day to day life. Increased connectivity also means that negativity is more connected too. There is more potential in this age to dissociate from the external world and live in our own abstractions than ever; the reality principle can be deferred for longer periods of time, as with naive liberalism, traces of which I see in this presentation, for e.g.
are you saying people trying to get recognition for something they did online is bad. because then this video is full of crap. you credited youself and all involved in this video at the end. just make the video and let it be.
No we are saying the opposite. People contribute to communities not because they get paid but because they get recognition from their peers for what they do. We are saying it's good.
But communities are many times privately owned (like this youtube community) I do get the recognition, but they get my intellectual property, and they get some extra content to display adds next too. What would you suggest, should all communities be open source, or should everyone try to start a community and try to own other peoples thoughts?
I think of it this way. When we came to America, there was abundance of food - IE; Henry Hudson said he could walk on the backs of the fish he saw in what now is a barren Hudson river. The natives had no diseases no colds and formulated herbal meds for what ailed them from nature. Humans always return to simple formulas for living that is inclusive and not exclusive.
I am glad you tackled the tough questions like making a living by giving stuff away, or sharing it. I am glad you asked the question "what if wikipedia is crap?" These are questions worthy of debate. I don't have an answer to either of these questions yet, but I don't think that jobs will look the same for my kids as they do for me. I do know that I want my kids to have the skills to organize themselves and others online, to share and collaborate, and be good digital citizens.
The Internet isn't a real community. Its faceless and one-dimesional. I watched the Internet destroy a real creative comm, subverting the mentor & oral tradition. There's more to creating something than the transmition of knowledge.
I use youtube for cooking & diy videos - We don't build anything. They act, I observe, I immitate.. we share nothing. They don't even decide whether I'm worthy of their teaching.
doesn't matter. My point is that a whole world of shared experience goes into really creating something. All the things that make a friendship, even like body language, whatever. Full-fledged relationships create something (which you can't get online), not digital correspondence.
the share is an invite to our selfs... to show the world what we can do, what we think...
now we are free to share! individuals are now constructing the world, and not only the big ones... now everyone can be what they want to be, there are no distinction anymore and no cutting legs.
I don't mind the utopic vision, really, but I don't feel you've really thought out how there are limits (corporate) on creativity and democracy. Certainly on this site. Check out what we learned in my class on/about YouTube, Learning from YouTube.
that said, the problem introduced in this video is ancient: personal property and values, versus the greater good and values of all. The answer, long known, is that the two are a continuum and you cannot have one without the other. They need to be in balance and eliminating either disempowers the other. Shared "free" creativity can provide a raised height of the base from which individual wealth-worth-values can leap.
according to both research and experience (of the founding american Pilgrims and communist countires in general) eliminating personal property has the odd effect of de-motivating people, resulting in losses for all
You have to distinguish between information and knowledge. Yes, information is and will be more freely and readily available. But the question is what will you do with it?
Olavo88 1 week ago
SOPA stops us to.
lequangstr 1 week ago
Very interesting and a clear explaination of the major issues. As someone who has invested thousands of dollars to educate myself as a visual artist, I worry about how to earn a living when theft of creative ideas happens all the time. People expect me to share everything for free and I don't even get comments for sharing. It sometimes feels like a lonley web. All giving and no earning.
NonLinearArts 1 month ago
"How do you make a living when everyone is freely sharing their ideas?" We all share everything, then there won't be any need to make a living. Isn't this just Communism? The farmer's food is for everyone, the architect's homes for everyone, the teacher's knowledge for everyone. That's what Communism is, right?
Nutz320 2 months ago
Access for all should be our goal.
Mslitigious 3 months ago
Cool. Very similar to some ideas that I brought together. See my article about Conversation on my blog - delarue.net
Thanks!
kdelarue 3 months ago
We Think, we love it
mithunayaram 4 months ago
Everything is only as good as the contributors or the creators of the thing....But I absolutely agree the web is amazing and so helpful to us all if we take proper advantage of it and share our resources. What does it matter if you dont gain money if you gain friends and can influence people and they appreciate what you do. So long as you do no harm we who enter this web world are intelligent enough and brave enough to take the best of it and filter out the dross. I love it and I am not young.
Cardywhite111 4 months ago
People were like this when they controled fire
sgwbyyy 4 months ago
Excellent Video! I really enjoyed it. If you're interested in these subjects you may also like the work being done by BEWARE OF IMAGES. It's a feature-length, animated documentary about the history of visual representation. The movie explores the intricate relationship between the technology, regulation and social effects of mass media. Its aim is to serve as an educational and entertaining media literacy tool that can be enjoyed by everyone.
Vilamon 5 months ago
Genial
CARYROJAS 5 months ago
THINKING is just ONE PART of the cake: sensing with all our 6 senses makes the cake complete!
jupiter2805 5 months ago
This video has cleared my all misunderstandings.... luv that..
Gahliro 7 months ago
Outstanding
Ganivello79 8 months ago
@standardlondon people's ideas will only get lost in the crowd if no-one is listening. The web is not only a community of sharers, but also one of listeners. Sharing ideas does not mean lecturing. The majority of really constructive collaboration on the Internet comes from forums, discussion and networks like Twitter, where people want to find things out. It's not about individual power.
niteside 9 months ago 2
@shahafasgi What the hell are you on about? I'm saying that when everyone is broadcasting their own opinion, they will all get lost in the crowd. I'm not talking about organs...
standardlondon 9 months ago
But when everyone has a voice, no one will.
standardlondon 9 months ago
@standardlondon your body is not seperated. your brain doesn't say "I AM the most important organ!" and the heart says "no, I AM!" , it just doesn't work like that...so we have a community of which everyone creates a single organizm.
shahafsagi 9 months ago
True.. monetary rewards don't work when doing even the slightest cognitive skill and competition between free content and not so free content is essentially dually healthy.
jirifejgl 10 months ago
Makes me wonder: what do I have to bring to the table?
mrsaltham 11 months ago
Though we all have an individual voice and importance, the world seems to becoming a massing single unit of overlapping thought and innovation! :D
wizardninja 11 months ago
from I-own to I-share thinking
would be the same as going....
from I-dare to i care
TheTyge 1 year ago
great video...lets start thinking with the new way...we must become independent in this points: energy, safety, food and water...and than I can see the infinite possibility for humanking when we could share the ideas and cooperate in every aspect of our days...
filiphustava 1 year ago
Brilliant!!! you've said it all my friend....gotta love it
thanhfry 1 year ago
angervating part is 4:00
WhoKnowsLolMe1 1 year ago
Monetary system stops this evolution concept. Corporations will produce scarcity of comunication to create new markets.
Only change the monetary system by a Resource based economy f.e. this utopia could be make true.
ioloo09 1 year ago
I share that idea too :)
akobashikawa 1 year ago
Excellent video. What can we do to help bring structure to a conversation with millions of participants? I think we can build a system for that guys. In terms of information technology, maybe we could build a software that gave symbols to categories, not to be creative with out a point but to make looking at big ideas with a lot of parts much easier, and possible to overview.
lordjavathe3rd 1 year ago
What does this mean for globalization? Who are the innovators? Will we see innovators where we haven't before?
splippy66 1 year ago
Beautifully put and right on the money Charles. This is 100% what we practice and we need you to get this message out. Huge congratulations and I will be syndicating your book...!
johnjcaswell 1 year ago
All World of Warcraft did was copy all J.R.R. Tolkien's ideas.
emergencyCALL911 1 year ago
I'm more pessimistic about it. There's so much crap online that I think it has become harder and harder for people to share good things.
All these ideas are great and look trendy but I believe that education is still much more important. If people are not provided with knwoledge, culture and critical thinking, the web will still be a window for poor quality material and information.
TheCpar 1 year ago
lovely! The age of intellectual freedom and innovation has arrived and is here to stay!
Very nice done!
TakeFreedomBack 1 year ago
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now this is creativity...and like something sweet and tasty, I am drawn in the have more. Satisfied, I am nourished to create my own contribution to these ideas...to think, imagine and create
givethemwings1 1 year ago
now this is creativity...and like something sweet and tasty, I am drawn in the have more. Satisfied, I am nourished to create my own contribution to these ideas...to think, imagine and create
givethemwings1 1 year ago
Excellent!!
humanist7117 1 year ago
A mass awakening is occuring, and it puts a smile on my face to know others believe what i believe. It gives me hope! :)
TDMprivateRyan 1 year ago
You are what you share! Fantastic! Great! :) Let's do it! A walk begans with a few steps!
ivpernia 1 year ago
great explanation for a person who understands alot but has difficulty grasping the ins and outs of learning today
mofetayala 1 year ago
Had to read/ view this for a class. Normally I do not comment, but I felt inspired and wanted to be part of the birdsnest. I am so overwhelmed by all the web 2.0 options--who has time? I like to read too :) And exercise. And plus I have a job. What is a wann-be social networker to do?
sabaoerin 1 year ago
well done...ty for sharing =)
SecondLifeEnglish 1 year ago
Does someone know which artist did the audio part?
polosfo 1 year ago
@polosfo I guess the animation creator should know.
chirebaiyou 1 year ago
As usual, Charles's finger is on the pulse. Great design, audio and message. In response to another comment, 'sharing' is not forced - it is just that the rate of sharing exponentially speeds up innovation, By all means, one can observe this process from thew sidelines. But the process will have major impact on social organisations and participation. Well done, Charles
rogerharnden 1 year ago
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
kuprus05 1 year ago
@kuprus05
You are contradicting yourself, in the very argument you put forward. You just participated, shared your idea in the topic at hand :) And asked for others within this community, whether they stand with your belief.
wyrwich 1 year ago
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
kuprus05 1 year ago
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
kuprus05 1 year ago
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
kuprus05 1 year ago
I don't feel that I need to be a part of the sharing. I can see how each person's thoughts and shared ideas can help support my own creativity, but I do not see how this necessitates my own involvement. How many out there simply watch and read as I do, rather than participate?
kuprus05 1 year ago
this is so cool!!! thank you, it's really helpful for my project about 'why are so many people afraid of the internet ' I really like:
You are what you share! hope to hear more from you,
greetz petra
heartrocking 1 year ago
I think it's a great way ; to start the change !!
karlijnjansen83 1 year ago
'What if wikipedia is crap' - awesome. The video was amazing, and made me think. (: x
thedevilsmysidekick 2 years ago
Well said and well presented....... The TRUTH can be so simple...... Love,peace & TRUTH....
leglobalidiot 2 years ago
This is just simply true.
Ornani 2 years ago 3
amen
7jb11 2 years ago
Are the sheep starting to awaken?Try our response, A Sheep Rebels....
BeyondRealityMusic 2 years ago
I love this video because as a teacher it suggests to me a new paradigm of education, where knowledge no longer 'belongs' to the curriculum or the teacher but is discovered and shared by learners.
Dobbinstar 2 years ago
is the purpose of our existance to improve oneself mentally or to be determined by the objects we have around us. By sharing knowledge you provoke response. If the response is negative and you can not win the arguement you are therefore wrong and learn that you are wrong. However, without sharing your knowledge you will never find our if your wrong...
mouldy543 2 years ago
@mouldy543 You may be right, but sometimes people dont respond, and just absorb what you shared as new knowledge. This happens a lot and it's the reason for the massive amount of misinformation being shared and spread in the web.....
porshok 2 years ago
Very thought provoking and timely - this needs to be thought through as things are happening so quickly. I agree the old corporations are on the way out - history is being made and our futures are being reshaped in an extraordinary way. Even we cannot predict how different things will become.
wendydashwoodquick 2 years ago
Read. This. Book.
jonmaguire 2 years ago
How do you protect privacy? As we evolve into a society of sharing digital communities, we become gatekeepers to our own knowledge. Each individual has the autonomy to determine what they will share or retain.
amurray3112 2 years ago
@amurray3112 Do we really have that authority nowadays?
porshok 2 years ago
How do we protect what is private? this is a good question - the basics: how to create value? how to get recognition? finally - how to make more investment(time and money) on this?
IsabelccRodrigues 2 years ago
What you think that we think is cool.
OpoPOpooPOPOooOo 2 years ago 2
You are what you do.
fearexp 2 years ago
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gelei3 2 years ago
We are not what we own, we are what we share.
Vientos de cambios, tiempos de cambios. La re-invención de lo que somos, de lo que hemos construido.
The power lays with in.
SergioCorreaG 2 years ago
you are what you share. Brilliant! I Love it
gransoporo 2 years ago 16
@gransoporo I'm more pessimistic about it. There's so much crap online that I think it's harder and harder for people to share good things.
All these ideas are great and look trendy but I believe that education is still much more important. If people are not provided with knwoledge, culture and critical thinking, the web will still be a window for poor quality material and information.
TheCpar 1 year ago
Great video and extremely inspiring. It's really food for thought...
Shivaumma 2 years ago
This goes to heart of the world we are living in today and it opens up so many doors. Very informative and i liked it
cfhovind 2 years ago
...incidentally, my learning community (see my prev comment) was in 2002 in a big broadcasting organisation, and collaborative knowledge-sharing was very much an uphill struggle. Reading your book I now understand why I had such a hard time!
MarkHarmer 2 years ago
I think there's a lot to learn as this new world emerges. But I'm really enjoying your book and the notions that we are in some ways rediscovering the pre-industrial past in the way we are creating communities.
Having started an online learning community based on people doing projects that interested them and sharing the results, I think the one thing I've noticed is that people express a need for "more information" when what they really need is something much richer - connection, community?
MarkHarmer 2 years ago
This video has just inspired me to sign up to youtube.
With life ahead of me, I am now wishing that in my spare time I was harnessing the skills to broadcast my creative output on such webmedia.
theBafta 2 years ago
You have Stimulated notions of the possibility of a world less obsessed with material gain, and more interested in creative participation; in some eyes a step closer to a form of utopia. But just because people offer up their ideas freely doesnt mean that someone else wont profit from them. Indeed you yourself (Charlie) are earning a living from raising such questions, and presumably profiting from the contributions of others to your latest book (?).
theBafta 2 years ago
With regard to democracy, does this ability to communicate and discuss- given a voice- really help if they are not satisfied with the system itself? In terms of the internet, people are given the capability of discussion through platforms such as this one (or facebook, flickr etc). In (uk) democratic politics our voice (translated into a vote) is only meaningful if a party represents our opinions. I feel, in UK politics at the moment, this isnt the case.
theBafta 2 years ago
This opinion I believed is shared by many others- shown by the ever falling participation rates. How is our voice heard, if what it is saying, is that it is dissatisfied with the existing system (or platform which gives it the voice in the first place)?
theBafta 2 years ago
In the economic sphere, the belief is that somehow a gap in the market would be filled (your mountain bike example springs to mind). But how do people translate this to the political realm?
theBafta 2 years ago
I think...
Being what you share is better than being what you own.
It's better for democracy, our society and its atitudes.
But that's just me... =)
Th3D4v1d 2 years ago
'I did not ask to be born where I was, If It was my own choice I would never have been born at all.'
Well done for being an idiot, Exagerative
Jamesfresh83 2 years ago
Guys please don't comment when you dont understand what this video is about, Its called the "We Think" Ideology, I studied it in Media studies and am about to take the exam tomorrow on this subject. Its just a concept that you stupid americans wouldnt understand anyway, all you care about is eating yourself untill your obese and watching others starving. Leave this kind of ideology to people that have a brain.
Exagerative 2 years ago
Here we go. So you've got a computer AND you go to university. Thats the top 5% in the world mate. So you're another little rich kid rebelling and feeling guilty because mummy and daddy have enough money to send you to university. What a joke, you want to get rid of the system that has allowed your parents to make enough money to send you to university.
ploughat 2 years ago
College actually. In the UK we leave high school at 16 and education (apart from uni) is free until we are 19 (payed through taxes). 1 in 3 children in the UK live in poverty :O
Exagerative 2 years ago
I live in Uk so am aware of that. And youre right, facts such as that are shocking. But you have to look at the casues of this kind of poverty, its cyclical. People living on multiple benefits have less of an incentive to look for work and get out of the cycle. Giving someone money for doing nothing takes away their independence and self belief. Also, if you were forced to give the money you've worked for to someone else, why would you bother? wheres the incentive to get out of poverty?
ploughat 2 years ago
It might not be perfect in the UK, but at least anyone can go to uni here, regardless of whether or not their parents can afford it, or have saved up their entire lives.
alecchalmers 2 years ago
What is the problem with turning a profit? Why be ashamed about the basic desire to improve our standard of living? Wealth creation is a hugh stimulus to scientific and technological development. The staggering advances of the last 100 years are a direct result of the the industrial revolution. If someone has the next great idea, then why shouldn't they make money from it? Money has the power to improve lives by funding the research/development of the next breakthrough for the human race.
ploughat 2 years ago
Because while 1 person has something, Another does not.
80% of the worlds population lives in Poverty. 80% of the worlds resources belong to roughly just 20% of the population. Its a horrible statistic, but it is true.
I believe that if you have enough to keep yourself going, and enough to share with others then you are a good person. you should be ashamed of your desire to improve your own standard of living, whilst others do not have such luxuries unless you share an even percentage.
Exagerative 2 years ago
Thats bullshit. You actually think that people should feel 'shame' in wanting to live a better life? what kind of fucked up philosophy is that? your right the statistics don't look good, but what use are statistics to the individual? By your own reasoning you aren't a very good person, that fact that you've got a computer must put you in the top 20%! Shame on you, how can you justify such a luxury?!
ploughat 2 years ago
I did not ask to be born where I was, If It was my own choice I would never have been born at all. I also study Geography at college, and have aspirations to go and help people all over through voluntary education and manual work, that kind of thing would be awesome education for me but help alot of people. The fact that my mum is manager of a hotel and owns an internet supply doesnt make me a bad person lol... she helps alot of people. Her job is kind of against this whole we think ideology tho
Exagerative 2 years ago
Thankyou for making my point for me. Nobody asks to be born who they are, its pure luck. Why should someone born into the 10% have to feel ashamed about it when it is only by pure chance? The fact that you are not a bad person shows this. Its this repressive, Christian attitude of guilt that I cant stand. Wouldn't it be more of a sin to squander the oppourtunities we have rather than feeling ashamed about them? as per my original post, wealth can improve lives by empowering them.
ploughat 2 years ago
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weedmanusa 2 years ago
So the ultimate goal is to eliminate private property and sharing everything? Shall we look up Wikipedia's definition of Socialism and see how close you come? This video, more than any of this wave of crowdsourcing propaganda, makes me want to go out and buy a gun.
RickWolff 2 years ago
Your video is really well-made. Hope you make more! (=
Chick6517 2 years ago
great - communities, conversations, ideas ......
600master 2 years ago
...i think its mostly instinct...
SixthtySixthSix 2 years ago
This is the most amazing video I've seen in a long time, and I've seen most of the TED videos.
This is the next internet revolution, and can truly transform our society. It reached to the core of me.
I will work on making this a reality
BjornPSwe 2 years ago
Fantastic animation. Really impressed by it's simplicity and power.
Enrico278 2 years ago 2
Ideas and documents we are sharing, but we don't and never sharing experience unless we lead the kind of life ourselves. Although some industry is decaying as the web growing more and more rapidly, I'm not sorry for that, because industries like the entertainment shouldn't have been that profitable before the web age came. But I still argue that some intelligent right be protected in order to stimulate the thoughts of scientists through stimulating their inner desire to make money.
cjysdny 2 years ago
I think scientist shouldn't do any researches becuase they want to make money but because they want to do the research... money should be the sideeffect not the reason for their work
ChOkOObO 2 years ago
I believe we always were what we shared. Now we can do it and do it more Freely. We can Become more. Not everyone will want to do that.
2MinuteStory 3 years ago
awesome video! loved it :)
Blankis26 3 years ago
Someone share with me how I can make lots of money
RockBalloon09 3 years ago
haha I know right I dont know why people are putting thumbs down... haha maybe you should do scientific research... haha
amber0dawn 2 years ago
You are what you share. You, plus me, plus him, plus her. We are what we share. Thus, we are. Community exists. Community we build. We build with internet and communication. We build ourselves. We build through sharing. You are what you share.
Sepherim13 3 years ago
I love it. Concise, intelligent, and nice simply drawn. I'll read the book. :)
rclarke85 3 years ago
Now that was creative!
vegnagunL 3 years ago
What song is this and who is it by?
Epitaph758 3 years ago
Not to be a Debby Downer but he just restated a bunch of information we already knew and linked it together to make it seem clever..
MrHob0 3 years ago 2
i just came acorss this when I was looking up the theologist Krishnamurti and his origins.
Thsi guy is good, great animation, makes sense of a lot of things, will get a hold of the book now!
80Handbags 3 years ago
the video just suggests this and gets us tuned in... there you go.
barrington1979 3 years ago
We are in the Information age.... soon to become the age of social awareness and health.
The video is just suggests this and get us tuned in.
barrington1979 3 years ago
Between Kurzweil's "law of accelerating returns," and an education/relationship based economy, we will develop a world where a basically high standard of living is universal...and then on that, people can build up value, based on recognition of their contributions. Currently, higher education is still valued enough to be costly, even though information is freely available, and MIT even made courses freely available. As hardware becomes more like software, knowledge become more like commodity.
kellyevans 3 years ago
We don't need money anymore. We will have a system of sharing for sharing. Why pay for an idea, anyway? At some point, people will realize that we live in a world, not just a country. The internet lets us do this. We think.
healthnurselearner 3 years ago 2
Absolutely love this video,
Yes, we think.
GuzmanTierno 3 years ago
Absolutely love this video, instantly made me go and buy the book. Tim's animation is brilliant, also check out what he's done with Throwing Sheep in the Boardroom on youtube.
Nickbusman 3 years ago
in the international community formed from the internet people from around the world can share ideas with each other and in turn there will be more production and people will invent more. the internet is bringing the world closer together.
Valdarkfiredragon 3 years ago
Very great work! Just what we think! ;D
florianfiegel 3 years ago
loved it-especially the 'sharing' concept!
myrnaw 3 years ago
Bump
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen on youtube
!!!
weakperception 3 years ago
A musician writes music not for money but like any other artyist to be appreciated. Some of the greatest artists lived in poverty. They created for creations sake not for money. Taking inspiration from Alan Watts - we are selfish but when we really follow that thought we realise that everything we want is something other than ourselves. We imply each other... your interest is mine and mine yours, your suffereing is mine and mine yours.
capt1ve 3 years ago 2
what do you think about democratic socialism?
idontwannamakeaname 3 years ago 3
ebolish money we are alll equal
guidomith 3 years ago
i dont know what to think of this but that just made me tired watching it
Emilymarkin 3 years ago
I think is much better to be recognized and to share with other people because is really easy because money is good but that people learn something with my works is much better, we'll have a better world with better and not superficial human beings.
Question? In which program did you make this video?
Awsome! thanks!
d2m333 3 years ago
i'd like to add regarding the spread of information and ideas
in the past life is enriched by what we know
today life is enriched by who we know
therefore, networking become an important thing to support it, youtube community as an evidence
nice video btw ^^
misslowlaaa 3 years ago
Nice! BTW, if we take care of the earth and share her fruits equaly we don't need money and/or ownership. We are (creating and sharing, loving and living), so WE ARE.
Nobody has become poor by giving - Anne Frank
mailw1n 3 years ago 2
Communist.
Stradlverius 3 years ago
and so are you
cheeseflips 3 years ago
and so are you
cheeseflips 3 years ago
Amazingly done.
My opinion: we don't really have to make a shitload of money to live. I mean as long as people share ideas it's useless to have a shitload of money because it would be unnecessary. You can build your own life using your brain. But the most important thing is the afterlife, if you do good in this life and you believe in god and mohammed, you're on the right path. use the best of this life in a good way to make yourself happy in the next life.
RuneMo2 3 years ago
in the past you were what you owned, now you are what you share
nice one
ineedoxygen222 3 years ago
This seems like a bad copy of the "web is us/ing us" video.
hotpinkslink 3 years ago
lol, is Wikipedia crap? :P
Thanks for putting Linux in there. The Linux community appreciates it!
GavinRoskamp 3 years ago
Blind Faith by Ben Elton... A good read..
ajmessinis 3 years ago
we are big on social media and positive potential of web 2.0. FOund Ben's book to be a good wake up call
MizLiberty 3 years ago
the linux income model is that competent people are supposed to be paid for operating and customizing the software, however the ownership of the software is free. This is a lot better model than the current Microsoft with sh-- software and most MS "licensed" network engineers are a joke. Linux kicks serious ass and MS are a bunch of crooks living the good life.
Joeey 3 years ago
Although I agree that some lesser knowledgeable individual's false perception of the way things work (and subsequent blog about it) may trigger a new line of thought in the tired old mind of the expert that has been stumped by stagnation in the ideas department...but who gets the recognition and how does that put dinner on the table?
andrewbreen 3 years ago
In the Linux community, developers get merit according to merit, like the quality of their work and contributions to their respective projects. Their work sometimes lands them well paying jobs at big IT companies, but sometimes not. For most Linux developers they work a real life job and in their spare time on open source software. Your right, andrewbreen, sharing of ideas doesn't put food on the table, but that's OK with me. I like the current order with the internet and Linux being hobbies
drone4four 3 years ago
Sounds wonderful again, I alone have to save capitalism, and guess what I have to do it for free.. Whoops just created value for YouTube (and Google) and ah also an extra hit and comment for Charles. Mass innovation = mass exploitation. Will commenting pay my bills, will sharing information bring me food on the table, will recognition save me from starvation? Knowledge economy, intellectual labour, affective labour.. Wake up!
svirsk 3 years ago
On another note, some contributions are so bogus and misinformed that mass sharing of knowledge only serves to dilute the truth and serves to convolute understanding. Maybe if a committee was established to disseminate fact from fiction...
andrewbreen 3 years ago
This reeks of communism...never worked in the past, doubt it will now. It's quixotic of us to believe recognition of contribution is enough to sustain us.
andrewbreen 3 years ago
The peer to peer sharing of knowledge reeks of scientific community more than communism. Science too mainly works via recognition as the main source of immediate reward.Mass sharing of knowledge often avoids the very risks you warn about by reducing reliance on single untrustworthy sources.
CharlesLeadbeater 3 years ago
Sadly, scientists turn down the reward of recognition in favor of ill obtain grant money. In a pure world recognition reigns, but as we both know - need I finish?
The average person doesn't know what they are talking about and are sure to drown out the intelligent input by sheer volume, that and they will rarely recognize a valid point made by a truly reasonable individual. Its no wonder mist brilliant minds avoid politics and government.
andrewbreen 3 years ago
Very well put andrewbreen. I find a whole lot of people think personal opinion trumps scientific conclusions and with enough personal opinion scientific evidence becomes irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
snowtoadman 3 years ago
In Formation wants to be Free.
It's an old adage but true.
charlierp 3 years ago
I don't think that all people share things or give them free because they want recognition, some people give them away or share things with the only motivation of helping. they help someone, or help build a better community, fix something, to make the internet a better place for free. those persons are the internet angels.
drcanoro 3 years ago
your Utopian democracy isn't true democracy, where 'the people speak'. because it isn't used by many people... its like saying,now we have books so everyone is educated.
second, you arn't what you share; you are what you steal.
lastly, an assumption is made that people wish to influence the world positively... if you use statistics or history you will see that it simply isn't so.
i'm not sure if you can buffer out these flaws in the argument, but good luck.
morthim 3 years ago
I think it's ignorant and convenient to think that "we are what we share" started with the web. We are what we share has always been. Isaac Newton, Einstein, Hitler, etc are all what they "shared."
rbrtchng 3 years ago
Doesn't sound like a Utopia to me. I don't use WOW or Second Life, and won't even get into for fear of negligence of the real day to day life. Increased connectivity also means that negativity is more connected too. There is more potential in this age to dissociate from the external world and live in our own abstractions than ever; the reality principle can be deferred for longer periods of time, as with naive liberalism, traces of which I see in this presentation, for e.g.
twankdafied 3 years ago
Perhaps the most important way we do it is: shareing,disgesting and creating!
From that way we can keep with the world and not lost oursleves!
2008kangtai 3 years ago
i really liked this; the drawing and the ideas. Am off to do some more birdnesting...
ai1sa 3 years ago
THANKS so much for this video. I will use it in my women's studies class.
EllieBrewster 3 years ago
Great glad it was of use.
CharlesLeadbeater 3 years ago
are you saying people trying to get recognition for something they did online is bad. because then this video is full of crap. you credited youself and all involved in this video at the end. just make the video and let it be.
happyglovemix 3 years ago
No we are saying the opposite. People contribute to communities not because they get paid but because they get recognition from their peers for what they do. We are saying it's good.
CharlesLeadbeater 3 years ago
But communities are many times privately owned (like this youtube community) I do get the recognition, but they get my intellectual property, and they get some extra content to display adds next too. What would you suggest, should all communities be open source, or should everyone try to start a community and try to own other peoples thoughts?
svirsk 3 years ago
I think of it this way. When we came to America, there was abundance of food - IE; Henry Hudson said he could walk on the backs of the fish he saw in what now is a barren Hudson river. The natives had no diseases no colds and formulated herbal meds for what ailed them from nature. Humans always return to simple formulas for living that is inclusive and not exclusive.
campocat 3 years ago
people seeking recognition will be the downfall of wikipedia
RuiNingLi 3 years ago
bah humbug!
asif3000 3 years ago
I am glad you tackled the tough questions like making a living by giving stuff away, or sharing it. I am glad you asked the question "what if wikipedia is crap?" These are questions worthy of debate. I don't have an answer to either of these questions yet, but I don't think that jobs will look the same for my kids as they do for me. I do know that I want my kids to have the skills to organize themselves and others online, to share and collaborate, and be good digital citizens.
mrjagill 3 years ago
blilliant. the future of advertising is lovertising (not about ownership, but sharing)
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Shoomkin 3 years ago
The Internet isn't a real community. Its faceless and one-dimesional. I watched the Internet destroy a real creative comm, subverting the mentor & oral tradition. There's more to creating something than the transmition of knowledge.
I use youtube for cooking & diy videos - We don't build anything. They act, I observe, I immitate.. we share nothing. They don't even decide whether I'm worthy of their teaching.
Internet has info. its a mirror & an abyss.
crock703 3 years ago
Yes and no. If they had a forum maybe... but forums are ripe for abuse... hmm.
Lowbudget2 3 years ago
doesn't matter. My point is that a whole world of shared experience goes into really creating something. All the things that make a friendship, even like body language, whatever. Full-fledged relationships create something (which you can't get online), not digital correspondence.
crock703 3 years ago
Well yeah there isn't going to be stuff like complex body language cues.
Not arguing there.
Lowbudget2 3 years ago
awesome video, i totally agree
the invent of the web allows people to come out freely and share
just like the p2p programs and torrent
olya777 3 years ago
the share is an invite to our selfs... to show the world what we can do, what we think...
now we are free to share! individuals are now constructing the world, and not only the big ones... now everyone can be what they want to be, there are no distinction anymore and no cutting legs.
really nice video!
lexazevedo 3 years ago
great video
i dont understand
"in the past you were what you owned"
now its
"what you share"
im not rejecting these ideas, but its a strange concept.
THE WEB IS WONDERFUL
publicenemy1 3 years ago
Hi ! What is the music you used for this video ?
MaryQueenOfChance 3 years ago
I don't mind the utopic vision, really, but I don't feel you've really thought out how there are limits (corporate) on creativity and democracy. Certainly on this site. Check out what we learned in my class on/about YouTube, Learning from YouTube.
MediaPraxisme 3 years ago
that said, the problem introduced in this video is ancient: personal property and values, versus the greater good and values of all. The answer, long known, is that the two are a continuum and you cannot have one without the other. They need to be in balance and eliminating either disempowers the other. Shared "free" creativity can provide a raised height of the base from which individual wealth-worth-values can leap.
heartfeltdruid 3 years ago
how would eliminating personal property values disempower our ability to share?
jonxjquee 3 years ago
according to both research and experience (of the founding american Pilgrims and communist countires in general) eliminating personal property has the odd effect of de-motivating people, resulting in losses for all
heartfeltdruid 3 years ago