MS Estonia Rescue part 1

[janarhia1]

Witnesses also said Piht was last moments with Hannely and Hanka-Hannika Veide (Dancers)

In first rescue list were they all, here's original pictures estline.ee/et/28091994

Also in corrected list were they there, Stockholm hospital also first confirm it, but suddenly, 4 days lates, they all missing.

[FinSituation]

@Kambanicity Avo Piht dissapeared after being tranferred to Turku hospital, even tho there was footage when he is taken to hospital now they say they cant find it, Avo Piht is too nowhere to be found. Another man (i dont remeber name) was too transferred to many hospitals then he was found dead in the sea. The goverment warned his family not to discover it because "it could be very dangerous"

[kanneebannee]

from what boat? Från vilken båt?

[swallat]

@kanneebannee Silja Europa som låg precis bakom Mariella har jag för mig

[kanneebannee]

@swallat jaha men de var väll Mariella som kom dit först??

[stharwarsh]

Heartbreaking...



[Vivi289]

please somepody tell me how many people died in there

[koistinennnn]

@Vivi289 852 people were killed. 501 swedish, 280 estonian, 10 finns and 19 from other countries like Latvia, Russia, Norway and Germany.

[rgur90x]

imagine people watching this in 80 years... it would be like if we were able to see footage from the titanic rescue. pretty creepy.

[camiilo87]

I think its about 5-6 beaufort, but Baltic sea is really powerfull check out Polish ferry Jan Heweliusz on google. That night when Baltic took him it was 12 beaufort.

[Kambanicity]

@camiilo87 True true, u are right but in that case it was crew error.

[pootubeftw]

@camiilo87

her. boats are always female. geez

[jetrc2008]

Now, i'd like to clarify, Avo Piht was not the captain of the Estonia. It was some guy named Anderssen (forgot his first name) Although he is a captain, Piht was just a passenger on the Estonia, he wasn't the one on command of the ship.

[Kambanicity]

@jetrc2008 Thats right. You are right.

But Avo Piht did surrvive, there are surrvivors that did se him.

[jetrc2008]

@Kambanicity Yeah, but why are some people making a big deal about him surviving when he was just a passenger?

[Kambanicity]

@jetrc2008 Beaucose he was on the Bridge

[Squad2ND]

@jetrc2008

The reason why it's a big deal is, that with his knowledge about the ferry, he could testify about the general condition of the ship and with detailed expertise about what he thinks the cause was. Instead now, the survivors and their families are left with bogus evidence and a commission-report which it not even worth wiping your ass in.

[everythingscoolforme]

@jetrc2008 maybe he knew something secret

[ChrJahnsen]

@jetrc2008

Because he was rescued, confirmed multiple times as a survivor and then he vanished without a trace. Had it only been Piht and not one single additional person, I suppose this could happen, but seven more people shared the same destiny. Rather coincidentally, they all shared the same life raft, they were all Estonian and all part of the ship's crew ... coincidence?

The Captain of the Estonia that night was Arvo Andresson, by the way.

[torbenhoeeg]

@jetrc2008

Avo Piht was the second captain of the MV Estonia during there last tour!

[InnocentWar1]

@jetrc2008 Arvo Andreasson was the first captain, Avo Piht was the second captain. Both of them died. Tormi Ainsalu second chief officer called the mayday. Andres Tammes was the thord chief officer and the last to communicate with the outside world. Juhan Tarme was he watchstander that gave the last position to Andres Tammes.

[everythingscoolforme]

@jetrc2008 avo piht was the other captain of the ship, it was like that: one night was piht, one night was anderrssen, the night when Estonia sank, there was anderssen working as the captain but piht was aboard as a passenger

[sanderva7]

that is after 1990 its like 1994

[moviemaker1004]

German divers went down there in 2000 and took some samples from a hull and found out that there had been an explosion. They also found an explosives wich had not been detonated.

[Kambanicity]

@moviemaker1004 : Yes probobly the explosives was left there after they took of the visor the days AFTER Estonia sank.

[moviemaker1004]

And what would be the point of doing that???

[Kambanicity]

You clearly dont knoe anything. I suggest u read read read read and read.

How else can the official report stand? pls do read alot and then come back.

[Luuser55]

R.I.P Estonia

[frenz1996]

It is the biggert catastrofy still in Europe

[isokessu]

@frenz1996 Well maybe after the world war 2. Or at least after 1990

[Meeskunn]

did anybody take pictures or film on Estonia , when it happened? I've seen 1 picture , that was on the news paper.

[Oaklley]

The worst accident what has happened in the European seas like in 100-150 years

[MasterJoni]

It was THE Worse

[zarije]

The worst in peacetime, anyway. The sinking of Wilhelm Gustloff in 1945 was worse. 9.400 german refugees drowned, when it was sunk by a soviet submarine.

[Kambanicity]

Well the conditions were not he best but i cant se any9-10 meter waves as it was reported.

[oku91]

The waves always look smaller on video than in real life. And it was 9-10 metres as worst...

[Kambanicity]

True true but noway there where 9-10 meter waves

At most 6 meter waves

[oku91]

true, the waves on the film looks to me no higher than 6-8 metres. But it's absolutely possible that the waves where at some point 9-10 metres high, remember that this film is just a couple of minutes and the rescue work went on for hours.

[Kambanicity]

Yes yes i know what u mean , but all other ships faced the same conditions.

Mariella Europa and Symphony all had the same speed when it happend

[oku91]

Well, about the speed, i am not sure about this, but i think that i heard somewhere that the ship actually travelled with a quite high speed taking the conditions in account... But as I say, i'm not sure.

[Kambanicity]

I can tell you that I am sure.

She held 14 knots Same as Silja Europa and Mariella.I have studied this for about 10 years now.

[bnssapp]

how come im not getting any sound???

[Kambanicity]

There is no sound on this

[encaloma]

Im looking for a vidoe shot inside the swedish harbour. I saw that clip when the whole thing happened and I saw Piht sitting there and the paramedics giving him attension.

[pulverdolken]

I think it is Symphony, for it looks like the bridge

sits at the top of the in.

It is not in Europa. It is located further down on it.

[Linda184]

The ship is Symphony

[pulverdolken]

Who is the ship in background at 4,17 - 4,37? Europa or Symphony?

Or is that another ship?

[Scatmanfi]

Europa

[kekkesa]

Silja Europa.

[heal2012]

Goggle: Red Ice Creations Radio there is an interview with the lawyer representing the families. He knows the truth.

[GrutasV]

I just need info about TV-cards and things what i need to ri those documentaries and news.

[GrutasV]

I have shitload of old estonia based news from finland, but not equipment to rip it to hard drive. I can do it, but it takes some time.

[Kambanicity]

What kind of help do u need?

[kaheksandik]

i hope they will make a movie like titanic some day

[Swedeandtasty]

They already have. The name of the movie is Baltic storm with Donald Sutherland. Check it out on imdb . com

[Swedeandtasty]

They already have. The name of the movie is Baltic storm with Donald Sutherland. Check it out on imdb . com and search for Baltic Storm (trailer) here on youtube.

[rop81]

That film sucks - and isn´t based on facts, only what the director think happend

[bragnadurhild]

I think, sadly, that the Estonia-sinking is known enought...if you know what I mean..;(

[encaloma]

If anyone has ANY footages of the newscast from Sweden/Denmark/Norway/Finland when Estonia happened I need it badly. Maybe somebody recorded it with a VHS and has the exact footage that we need. It's a clip of an hospital in I think Sweden that shows captain of the MS Estonia Avo Piht been overlooked by a doctor. I know, beause I saw that clip on the day Estonia sank. Avo Piht did not go down with the ship, something else happened. So anyone...

[olenlotharjoo]

Search youtube "M/S Estonia Captain Piht". I guess that video has something...

[bigpizza112]

theres already a clip of him standing in a paramedic car unharmed. He knew something he should not have known.

[svennenmatte]

vad fan snackar delfy11 om? e han dum i huvudet eller`?

[Kambanicity]

Hii

I really dont remeber Where I found it

[gladnicke3]

This video should have been better with sound.

[Kambanicity]

Yes probobly but this is what i found

[gladnicke3]

Did you found it on Estoniasamlingen?

[zoogarten]

9/11 2001 was an inside job so what about M/S Estonia? The official story says it was an "accident" but there was a bomb(s) in the M/S Estonia. There was mysterious and unlisted cargo in the ship. That stuff was russian weapons which were on their secret way from Russia to Estonia and from there to Sweden.

Jutta Rabe has been investigating what really happened to the M/S Estonia. She has been threatened because of this. There are too many unanswered questions in the official "accident" story.

[delfy11]

Not only her but all the crew members who survived and obviously the passangers were all threatened not to tell everything they know. One of the watch seamen told that he has to keep his mouth shut especially about the time (when precisely something happened). My uncle told that one of his friend who was on that ferry saw a of a submarine diving near by and a boat of men and thought that jumping of the ship was pointless because they're gonna shoot... but nothing happened

[Kambanicity]

In the dark? With big waves and band listing?

You are clearly joking

[janekas123]

Fuck..delfi11.???!!!!! are u obvious what u talkin about , I think u have many things in this area to fill.I was 14 at that time when my mother went this boat and she ws a crew member.AND I KNOW WHAT SHE WENT THREW!!!!!!!!SO! THERE ARE SWEDES, ESTONIAS AND FINNISH GOVERMENTS WHOS ARE SOPUSE TO SPEAK!SHUT UPQ STUPID!!!!! ANGRY!

[delfy11]

During the time when the investigation took place the Sweadish side was hindering the work of investigation committee, and because of that the chairman Anti Meister resigned from that place saying that the Swedes were hinduring the work... Swedes have a lot of information what they are keeping to them selves.

[core1976scotland]

Why did they dump tons of rubble on the wrecksite? the german govt were angry @ the time as they were gona pay for any survey.

[zoogarten]

Yes I´ve heard the same. It´s really sad how the things from the Orwell´s well-known book "1984" become true. Some people really believe that George W. Bush or Tony Blair doesn´t lie. :D

[decimuscarrerus]

tard

[allth3s4me]

9/11 was no inside job you fool. and so wasn't this. this was most probably russian terrorist attack on the particular line (why- different explanations). of course, some people know fucking for sure what happened but they can't tell. pathetic. but no "inside job" get over these blank theories and at least don't mention 9/11 here, okay

[allth3s4me]

Lie or not lie, but I don't wanna hear your theories, especially on a page of MS Estonia rescue video, I love thr US so go somewhere else, please, will ya

[allth3s4me]

ACTUALLY, no, they didn't prove it.

[infiltr80r]

Actually, yes they did. Turn off Fox News and read the report for a change.

[staszewski1234]

Films are from finnhasna or how its called.

[Scandinavian92]

It´s Finnhansa;)