I don't study actual kendo so it's hard for me to tell who is winning at times :P. I prefer learning sword techniques on my own without any guidance. Trial and error is always more fun and erratic swordplay usually has an advantage over conditioned in a real fighting environment anyways.
If you actually don't study Kendo then you actually don't know what you're talking about right? Why do you think people studied swordplay for millenniums?
Any decent martial artists know how to fight with rules off. The difference is we also have techniques that have been tested and proven by generations after generations.
Even in the old MMA days those with training always did far better.
Don't make a mockery out of a master's demonstration with your bullshit.
@KevnutsWho all the kamaes in nito are very flexible. you can choose in which hand handle your daito (long sword) and your shoto (short sword). even the feet position is free: you can move with the right foot forward, or with the left one, no matter about the swords positions in the hands.
Kendo is beautiful and when kendoka has skills,it can be so amazing... Although I don't like this vid. It seems that the guy using two swords just can't do it properly and has a tiny experience. And the other guy didn't flashed - he is too nervous :/ I mean a fight ghost is essential but...
@frontaLobotomy92 Toda sensei is very famous of Nito - ryu. It is just a demonstration. If you see again, each step he did is just get to the point. The other guy feel nervous is normal. Only strong and true fighter can make other fighten and nervous. I tried this feeling before when practiced with my sensei.
Thanks for the answer. I just think that one of them looks too nervous so his decisions can seem rash. Moreover, 'cause of that I consider his actions insecure,and okuri ashi..-stamina,vigor is essential in shiai although guy is unstable for me ;)
@frontaLobotomy92 Yes, you are right. I love Kendo because not only training physical strength but rather concern how to set up spirtual strength. When facing an opponent like Toda sensei, how to make myself stable and fearless are very meaningful.
@frontaLobotomy92 This is TODA sensei - he is Legend in Japan - he won 3 all japan "above 7th dan" championships. He has best kedo in Nito to date. I had an honour to be on his seminar. Sir - you have no idia what you are talkng about......
@Alhok Yeah but you know, it is only my oppinion and,what's more, whether you do kendo properly or not, it doesn't have to steal every heart, dude. Maybe it wasn'r also his day - hitted in first possible while? Me simply didn't like it.
Well, I'm not one to know but I've asked a few people and they've recommended to wait until sandan. Now I can advantages and disadvantages to this. A new kendoka will take shape based upon their training. For most, they will take strong form in only itto kendo, which is fine. However to those who desire nito, it will be like trying to reset an already hardened mold. I learn and practice on the side so that I can become well balanced.
Picking up nito after you've earned sandan isn't trying to break an, "already hardened mold" at all. The reason you should wait until you reach sandan is that you'll have a firm understanding of seme, maai, and timing. If you try learning now you'll just become confused and won't be nearly as effective.
I understand better now. Thank you. However, in Go Rin no Sho, Musashi states that students who wish to learn Nito should start learning to understand Nito from the beginning of their training. Of course maai will be different, but learning with a broad sense of the martial arts should be top priority. Nito maybe should not be used in practice very much at the beginning, but should be thoroughly understood by the beginning so later, one will not have a hard time transitioning.
In the beginning you have a hard enough time controlling one shinai and by the time you reach sandan you'll have an even greater understanding of kihon, making the transition much easier. If you start right away you'll be physically used to it but will lack the mental understanding necessary to use it effectively. It's impossible to gain a thorough understanding of any part of kendo with less than 10 years of practice, plus you've got the rest of your life to practice kendo, no sense in rushing.
There actually are a handful of non-Japanese kendoka who are hachidan. My sensei has an uncle who is hachidan and had a college sensei who is as well. Both are Taiwanese.
Unfortunately I don't know of any but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a couple. I think there definitely will be more as time goes on considering how much kendo has proliferated internationally.
Anyone can enlighten me on why the footwork changes for Nito quite often? Sometimes it's right foot forward, sometimes it's left foot forward. Or is it because Toda sensei is such a God of Nito that he can do whatever he wants?
You insult Toda sensei, but it seems that you are deserving of insult. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with Musashi's instructions on two-sword fighting before you go around criticizing others. Come back when you learn the term "Inyo-ashi".
The last sentence. "Or is it because Toda sensei is such a God of Nito that he can do whatever he wants?" You can't tell me that wasn't supposed to have a sarcastic tone on it.
ah.. i was wondering why i was being slammed by harsh remarks. no, i'm not being sarcastic. i'm still quite new to the concepts of kamae(s) other than chuudan.
Ah, sorry, in that case. And, yeah, repeat cooleric's comment. Musashi explains that you need to move both feet as one unit, rather than separately, so it is a bad idea to always have the same foot forward because you become used to functioning from only one direction.
uhm theres not offical ruling on nito ryu footwork . so you can the right foot foward or the left foot foward . like for me im a jodan kendoka and i have my left foot in front but i use fumikomi wit my left . oh yea nito ryu and jodan are kinda similar .
I don't study actual kendo so it's hard for me to tell who is winning at times :P. I prefer learning sword techniques on my own without any guidance. Trial and error is always more fun and erratic swordplay usually has an advantage over conditioned in a real fighting environment anyways.
Struedelmuffin 4 months ago
@Struedelmuffin
If you actually don't study Kendo then you actually don't know what you're talking about right? Why do you think people studied swordplay for millenniums?
Any decent martial artists know how to fight with rules off. The difference is we also have techniques that have been tested and proven by generations after generations.
Even in the old MMA days those with training always did far better.
Don't make a mockery out of a master's demonstration with your bullshit.
DirtyHeartbeat 1 month ago
I cant even tell who's winning =/
TheJfzero 7 months ago
@TheJfzero Its demo - but Toda sensei scored more then 2 ippons
Alhok 4 months ago in playlist nito ryu by toda sensei
@Alhok do you mean nippons?
Fazzoff 3 months ago
Step back, Daniel-san. Step back.
HachiZenki 7 months ago
question: if you are left handed do you hold the longer sword in your right or left hand?
KevnutsWho 8 months ago
@KevnutsWho all the kamaes in nito are very flexible. you can choose in which hand handle your daito (long sword) and your shoto (short sword). even the feet position is free: you can move with the right foot forward, or with the left one, no matter about the swords positions in the hands.
Azhorat 7 months ago
Kendo is beautiful and when kendoka has skills,it can be so amazing... Although I don't like this vid. It seems that the guy using two swords just can't do it properly and has a tiny experience. And the other guy didn't flashed - he is too nervous :/ I mean a fight ghost is essential but...
frontaLobotomy92 1 year ago
@frontaLobotomy92 Toda sensei is very famous of Nito - ryu. It is just a demonstration. If you see again, each step he did is just get to the point. The other guy feel nervous is normal. Only strong and true fighter can make other fighten and nervous. I tried this feeling before when practiced with my sensei.
thkun33 1 year ago
@thkun33
Thanks for the answer. I just think that one of them looks too nervous so his decisions can seem rash. Moreover, 'cause of that I consider his actions insecure,and okuri ashi..-stamina,vigor is essential in shiai although guy is unstable for me ;)
frontaLobotomy92 1 year ago
@frontaLobotomy92 Yes, you are right. I love Kendo because not only training physical strength but rather concern how to set up spirtual strength. When facing an opponent like Toda sensei, how to make myself stable and fearless are very meaningful.
thkun33 1 year ago
@frontaLobotomy92 This is TODA sensei - he is Legend in Japan - he won 3 all japan "above 7th dan" championships. He has best kedo in Nito to date. I had an honour to be on his seminar. Sir - you have no idia what you are talkng about......
Alhok 4 months ago in playlist nito ryu by toda sensei
@Alhok Yeah but you know, it is only my oppinion and,what's more, whether you do kendo properly or not, it doesn't have to steal every heart, dude. Maybe it wasn'r also his day - hitted in first possible while? Me simply didn't like it.
Besides, not "sir", I'm female.
frontaLobotomy92 4 months ago
lol this is terrible, games and sports. not budo.
chucknorrispranks 1 year ago
hidari do
hidari do
HADARI DOOOO !!!!!
just do it, man...
OOFUJISAN 2 years ago
Oh please don't tell me you have to be high ranking to learn Nito Ryu.
diestroduende 2 years ago
Well, I'm not one to know but I've asked a few people and they've recommended to wait until sandan. Now I can advantages and disadvantages to this. A new kendoka will take shape based upon their training. For most, they will take strong form in only itto kendo, which is fine. However to those who desire nito, it will be like trying to reset an already hardened mold. I learn and practice on the side so that I can become well balanced.
ILOVESPEED25 2 years ago
Picking up nito after you've earned sandan isn't trying to break an, "already hardened mold" at all. The reason you should wait until you reach sandan is that you'll have a firm understanding of seme, maai, and timing. If you try learning now you'll just become confused and won't be nearly as effective.
neogtrmn 2 years ago
I understand better now. Thank you. However, in Go Rin no Sho, Musashi states that students who wish to learn Nito should start learning to understand Nito from the beginning of their training. Of course maai will be different, but learning with a broad sense of the martial arts should be top priority. Nito maybe should not be used in practice very much at the beginning, but should be thoroughly understood by the beginning so later, one will not have a hard time transitioning.
ILOVESPEED25 2 years ago
In the beginning you have a hard enough time controlling one shinai and by the time you reach sandan you'll have an even greater understanding of kihon, making the transition much easier. If you start right away you'll be physically used to it but will lack the mental understanding necessary to use it effectively. It's impossible to gain a thorough understanding of any part of kendo with less than 10 years of practice, plus you've got the rest of your life to practice kendo, no sense in rushing.
neogtrmn 2 years ago
People in those days practiced full time. He wasn't talking about sport martial arts.
jamjax 2 years ago
i started learning nito at shodan
jung567 2 years ago
WoW Toda sensei! :0 !! i respect him
He was powerful and cool!!!
ya! look like infighter :)
SwordWiazard 2 years ago
omg one handed is simply pwned by 2 handed ne...
phunagewine 2 years ago
left is maeda-sensei and to the right toda-sensei.
there are no non-japanese kendo players who are hachidan.
katsugott 3 years ago
yup,, maeda sensei is also good my previous comment is nt good
kendokaboy 3 years ago
There actually are a handful of non-Japanese kendoka who are hachidan. My sensei has an uncle who is hachidan and had a college sensei who is as well. Both are Taiwanese.
neogtrmn 2 years ago
ah, i see. do you know of any western hachidan?
katsugott 2 years ago
Unfortunately I don't know of any but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a couple. I think there definitely will be more as time goes on considering how much kendo has proliferated internationally.
neogtrmn 2 years ago
they are russians. Theyve got 8 dan each... :P
xxAtrinxx 3 years ago
there arent any russians who have 8th dan
i am almost sure u know
kendokaboy 3 years ago
the lady who speaks is russian. She says: "now there is a special demonstration with (name 8 dan and (name) 8 dan"
xxAtrinxx 3 years ago
ow then it was europe who hasn't got an 8th dan yet ^^
kendokaboy 3 years ago
... and she say " kyoshi Maeda and Toda sensei"...
Peekingduck 3 years ago
but i don't think the chudan is 8th dan >.>
kendokaboy 3 years ago
agreed.
Hachidan matches usually consist of fewer strikes. The Nito guy looks high rank though
twobitmage 3 years ago
that's toda sensei ,, i think he's japanese, but the other one isnt hachidan i think
kendokaboy 3 years ago
Wow!
What a strong seme!
kensei64 4 years ago
I am very sorry for my ignorance in Kendo I just started but was Toda-sensei letting them win?
Yarios 4 years ago
to be honest it doesnt look like hes trying
and from what ive seen and experienced against nito is that there supposed to be hard to hit.
so i think your right.
chappy178 4 years ago
Usually, the sensei opens and allows the student to make a good strike to end that practice session.
foofia 3 years ago
Anyone can enlighten me on why the footwork changes for Nito quite often? Sometimes it's right foot forward, sometimes it's left foot forward. Or is it because Toda sensei is such a God of Nito that he can do whatever he wants?
leepinpo 4 years ago
I belive so.
He would probably fight good even crawling.
chakaling 4 years ago
You insult Toda sensei, but it seems that you are deserving of insult. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with Musashi's instructions on two-sword fighting before you go around criticizing others. Come back when you learn the term "Inyo-ashi".
BlackwindSamurai 4 years ago
How was that insulting now? All I saw was a valid question.
lolinternetslol 4 years ago
The last sentence. "Or is it because Toda sensei is such a God of Nito that he can do whatever he wants?" You can't tell me that wasn't supposed to have a sarcastic tone on it.
BlackwindSamurai 4 years ago
Its real hard to tell what is or isn't sarcasm on the internet, that was a perfectly legitimate question.
lolinternetslol 4 years ago
ah.. i was wondering why i was being slammed by harsh remarks. no, i'm not being sarcastic. i'm still quite new to the concepts of kamae(s) other than chuudan.
leepinpo 4 years ago
Ah, sorry, in that case. And, yeah, repeat cooleric's comment. Musashi explains that you need to move both feet as one unit, rather than separately, so it is a bad idea to always have the same foot forward because you become used to functioning from only one direction.
BlackwindSamurai 4 years ago
uhm theres not offical ruling on nito ryu footwork . so you can the right foot foward or the left foot foward . like for me im a jodan kendoka and i have my left foot in front but i use fumikomi wit my left . oh yea nito ryu and jodan are kinda similar .
cooleric06 4 years ago
seme sooooo strong.....
Landorph 4 years ago
Awesome!!!
kendoka1 4 years ago