To understand about the benefits/contamination of Raw milk in laymen terms...Type in YT search box "The Truth about Raw Milk with Mark Mcafee from Organic Pastures"
In appreciation of certifiedhealthnut's response per the communication of FathomlessJoy - as well as the point made by Gemoirec. Indeed - so many of us have yet to awaken from a pronounced attachment to the utterly mundane...at the very least or the most benign.
It's sad that this video only has 10,000 views while other videos (of celebrities) have millions of views. This goes to show this country's priorities. It makes me so sad. (PS - I am extremely grateful for the 10,500 people who DID watch it) (I am also NOT being negative towards celebrities - I'm jus sayin....)
Aajonus Vonderplanitz says he is a real doctor! He aint lol! Thats not even his real fucken name!
The dude is a scammer. Ask him about the bovine luekemia present in the raw milk he sells. Just dont be close enough so he can punch you in the face though! The dude is a violent crackpot.
people want what they what. illegally or illegally. they will get it. banning it only makes it more likely that people will be exposed to risky products. you try to protect us from ourselves but you put us in more danger. if you legalize it, you can regulate it. you can set safety standards, andyou can tax it. you can also save money from having to prosecute and jail decent, hard working, tax paying citizens who are simply meeting the demand of the public.
I am not sure why anyone would want to drink milk. After all, it has many toxins and healthy substances in it. The kicker tho is that it is loaded with pus and blood. So, when you drink raw milk, although it is all the rave, you are drinking all that pus and blood without being sterilized or neutralized in any way. Of course even with pasteurization it is still very unhealthy, but drinking un-treated pus, that would make me puke.
@FathomlessJoy thanks for your opinion. i personally do not like milk however i believe anyone should have the right to choose what they feel is right for them. i also know a lot of people that drink it for THEIR health & R very healthy. pus & blood in healthy animals? maybe, however, what i see often these days is people get sick eating unhealthy animals then cleaning out using some veg diet or vegan dogma & believe that all humans should eat that way. that is not only arrogant but ignorant.
@certifiedhealthnut Actually, it is a fact that it has pus and blood, not a opinion. Right? On average there are 350 million pus cells per liter. These come from infected udders and teats. If it was my opinion, then tests would not so it to be true, the government wouldn't set guidelines as to how much pus and blood can be in milk, and the farmers would not have to test the milk and keep it in the guidelines, which is less than 750 million parts per liter.
just about everything we eat is covered is dirt, shit, piss, puss, blood, insects, germs and those want to eat of of that raw in the hopes they get more goodness out of their good... thats up to them. people should just be allowed to eat what they want. period.
This is what happens because the majority didn't protest/vote against bill S510 and now look up what senator Dick Durbins trying to pass(law against dietary supplements-selling,buying,possessing)!And it will be shoved down our throat too.!!!
Its OUR God given right to eat raw foods of our choice.All the time your protesting peacefully,their taking another one of your rights!!! Stern unity of the masses will stop this illegal shit,until then"Sit back and watch whos next".
watch?v=Hm0osF7GGT0&feature=channel_video_title -about 80 min in it has a story about 2 fox reporters who were fired for trying to report( they were never allowed) that the doctored milk causes cancer - we have to get control back from the fascist. there is a new idea that brings wealth to all people without subjugation and within the caring capacity of the earth called the resource based economy -watch zeitgeist addendum and zeitgeist moving forward and join the movement 1155 chapters < 2yrs
Yeah dude, and this "review" that you speak of is likely of a government entity which again, should always be called into question. All of the evidence points to aspartame's harmful effects. There is controversy behind this synthetic for a reason and you continue to do quick little google searches to keep up with me with by posting generic claims. You may be polite, but you still fit the category of TROLL.
So coke and pepsi machines in the the hallways of LA county schools is ok huh, but God forbid a private business produce and sell healthy raw milk to the public. The fact that they want us all sick while at the same time taking away personal freedoms is not a conspiracy theory but a conspiracy fact.
@TheAntiV Sorry bud, but your comment is absurd. Yes, in VERY RARE cases raw milk may cause a bacterial infection. A simple google search will reveal studies showing the health benefits of the probiotics and live enzymes in raw milk. One study concluded that raw milk reduces allergies in children. And clearly sodas can't give you a bacterial infection, but since you mention it, it is responsible for causing much worse.
According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 300 people in the United States got sick from drinking raw milk or eating cheese made from raw milk in 2001, and nearly 200 became ill from these products in 2002. "Drinking raw milk or eating raw milk products is like playing Russian roulette with your health," says John Sheehan, director of the Food and Drug Administration's Division of Dairy and Egg Safety.
@TheAntiV 300 people got sick? 300/350,000,000 *100= 0.00008% of the US population got ill didnt die got ill. This your scare stat? Americans are more likely to be struck by lightning. Don't be such a coward. Its like playing russian roulette with a gun that has 1,166,666 chambers. IF you spin the chamber once and then once a day pull the trigger it will take you 3196 years before you go through all the chambers.
@TheAntiV Studies have also shown a direct correlation between the childhood obesity epidemic and soda intake, and with 10 to 12 teaspoon in a can of soda it is no wonder why. Phosphorus also leeches calcium from the bones. High fructose corn syrup and aspartame are other soda ingredients proven to damage one's health.
The claims that aspartame is incredibly harmful has been grossly exaggerated.
According to the National Cancer Institute, statistics show that the increase of brain and central nervous system cancers began in 1973, eight years before Aspartame appeared.
Also, a human being needs at least 8 cans of soda a day to develop one cancer cell.
That's because the advances of pasteurization wasn't developed until 1886 when it was first suggested by Franz von Soxhlet. Pasteurization can prevent include tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever and Q-fever; it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli 157 among others.
Aw yes, another cretin who fell for the ridiculous artificial sweetener panic. Reviews have found no association between aspartame and cancer. These reviews have looked at numerous carcinogenicity studies in animals, epidemiologic studies in humans, as well as in vitro genotoxicity studies. These studies have found no significant evidence that aspartame causes cancer in animals, damages the genome, or causes cancer in humans at doses currently used.
@TheAntiV You still did not quantify it. How many people are drinking raw milk and not getting sick? What percentage of raw milk consumers are getting sick? Show me #'s that justify a gov't guns drawn raid and destruction of private property, because some hippies want to consume food that isn't controlled by the FDA.
Also, been have been doing all kinds of unhealthy acts for hundreds of years before new innovative ways were developed that helped improve our health. You think that just because for the majority of human existence people consumed unpasteurized milk automatically means it was okay to consume it?
I guess bloodletting is okay since many people were also doing that in the past for so long.
@TheAntiV FACT: 67% of Americans R OBESE & 1 in 2 will now get cancer. that observation tells me that there is something SYSTEMICALLY WRONG with the food that the government is "approving" of ie; subsidized pasteurized dairy industry, hormones, pesticides, GMO state subsidized crops & the Monsanto chemical company having their officials appointed as food safety personnel appointed to run the USDA/FDA. UR ignorance of these poignant topics points to U being the numbnut projecting upon others!
Great job at misreading statistical information you idiot. Bu the exact percentage is that 63.1% of Americans are either overweight OR obese. The recent gallop finds that 36.6% of Americans are overweight and 26.5% obese.
Despite all the claims that chemicals used in farming are bad for us, it turns out cancer rates have dropped 15 percent since farmers began using chemicals.
How is that possible? Well it's mainly due to people being able to afford more fruits and vegetables, because the chemicals allow more to be grown. That's one reason the average life expectancy in the US went up by almost 10 years between 1950 and 2000.
@TheAntiV Wow, once again you post nonsense. You saying something is exaggerated is at least a concession on your part that there is something behind the claims of the harm it does to the human body. FACT: ASPARTAME is a synthetic and is classified as an excitotoxin that is 200 times sweeter than sugar and resulted in tumors in a study with lab rats. I see you have done a little google searching in order to keep up with my comments and regurgitating the "8 cans of soda" line as well.
@TheAntiV FACT: ASPARTAME was initially banned in the US before Monsanto petioned the FDA. FACT: ASPARTAME is banned in all childrens products in the European market. Are you a troll, or do you really find it that hard to believe that a laboratory synthetic ingredient can do harm to the human body?
Aw yes, another cretin who fell for the ridiculous artificial sweetener panic. Reviews have found no association between aspartame and cancer. These reviews have looked at numerous carcinogenicity studies in animals, epidemiologic studies in humans, as well as in vitro genotoxicity studies. These studies have found no significant evidence that aspartame causes cancer in animals, damages the genome, or causes cancer in humans at doses currently used.
This position is supported by multiple regulatory agencies like the FDA and EFSA as well as scientific bodies such as the National Cancer Institute.
Concern about possible carcinogenic properties of aspartame was originally raised and popularized in the mainstream media by John Olney in 1970s and again in 1996 by suggesting that aspartame may be related to brain tumors.
Reviews have found that these concerns were flawed, due to reliance on the ecological fallacy and the purported mechanism of causing tumors being unlikely to actually cause cancer. Independent agencies such as the FDA and National Cancer Institute have reanalyzed multiple studies based on these worries and found no association between aspartame and brain cancer.
The European Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences (ERF) has released several studies which claim that aspartame can increase several malignancies in rats, concluding that aspartame is a potential carcinogen at normal dietary doses.
Although thirteen occupational safety and health experts signed an open letter from CSPI to the FDA expressing that the 2007 ERF study merited a reevaluation of aspartame's safety in humans, (cont)
@77bogart these studies have been widely criticized and discounted by the FDA and other food safety agencies:
After reviewing the foundation's claims, the EFSA[66] and the FDA discounted the study results and found no reason to revise their previously established acceptable daily intake levels for aspartame. Reported flaws were numerous and included, but were not limited to, the following:
comparing cancer rates of older aspartame-consuming rats to younger control rats; unspecified composition of the "Corticella" diet and method of adding aspartame, leading to possible nutritional deficiencies; unspecified aspartame storage conditions; lack of animal randomization; overcrowding and a high incidence of possibly carcinogenic infections; and the U.S. National Toxicology Program's finding that the ERF had misdiagnosed hyperplasias as malignancies.
@TheAntiV I guess I should applaud you for your ability to visit website, then proceed to cut and paste entire chunks of information. I could easily do the same at this time but I choose not to. Like I stated before, the evidence showing the dangers of aspartame is large and important. You noting the FDA discounting results is irrelevant considering that the FDA has become a farce and a total joke. Please open your eyes and dig deeper in your research.
Just because things are banned doesn't mean it was a good idea to ban them. Studies can be flawed. Take DDT for example. Thanks to a stupid treehugging twat who cited flawed data millions have died due to Malaria around the world.
Is this all you have? Conspiracy theories and speculation? Sometimes I don't like the FDA either but this disregard for contradictory evidence is nothing more than a cop out.
@TheAntiV Obama appointed Michael R. Taylor the deputy commisioner for the FDA. And who did Michael R. Taylor previously work for? The answer is MONSANTO. Taylor was the VP at MONSANTO, which is the company that produces ASPARTAME. See how this shit works my friend. You citing a government study in this case is the epitome of conflict of interest. Your efforts to defend a synthetic ingredient is a losing one, and a bit odd. Take care
The key word is "previously." Maybe if it said currently it would cause some alarm. But do you know why the hire these kinds of people? It's because they know what the fuck they are talking about. Who else would Obama hire? Some treehugging organic nut?
I definitely see how shit works. I see how you bring up a fucking straw man when you haven't the slightest clue who did the study. It's truly a pitiful attempt really.
One more thing you colossal idiot. The FDA wasn't the only group which refuted the studies on rats.
Evaluation of this research by Health Canada and the British government's Committee on Carcinogenicity of Chemicals in Food, Consumer Products and the Environment likewise found methodological problems with the research and did not recommend any further reconsideration of the recommended intake of aspartame in their respective countries.
Another review criticized the Ramazzini Foundation for relying on 'science by press conference' with its release of results through the media before being published in a proper peer-reviewed journal, thus helping fuel the controversy and publicity about the study in the media.
OBSERVATION: The customers and staff of the Rawsome store appear to be of ideal body weight. The cops seem to to successfully representing the results of the fast food sector.
QUESTION: Has Cargill Meat Solutions Corp been raided?
So it's okay to drink soda(which is definitely NOT natural)....but drinking an actual healthy drink like raw milk is illegal?? I will not be surprised there will be another civil war in the states due to the most redundant laws the government, our employees, make...
When there is a raid on drugs they take everything into custody. Why would they pour the Raw Milk down drains???? I smell Corrupt Law!!! This nation is bent on creating and allowing illness not curing it. Sad!
In my previous posting, I failed to clearly delineate the difference between input power, process and output. Although Monsanto and the Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM)
are the power behind the push to shut down holistic organic entities in Santa Monica and the like, at upper end Monsanto is the tormenter, the intimidators and emotional buzzers of the American Farmers throughout the Mid- western Corridors of the US. They instill fear in the heart on the struggling farmers.
On the other hand, the softer treat is due to competition and market share – so the crux at play here is what other entity may suffer from having such store in business. Well!!! rather clear “ Whole Food, Trader Joe’s, Gelson’s. (hypothetical assumption)
The police are told not to question or lock up illegal aliens. The Feds refuse to lock up gun running gangs moving back and forth across our borders.However the police and federal government have no problem raiding the business and locking the owner of a person who is selling healthy food. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@xxdonaldqxxx There were no "sales" of food. It wasn't a "business". Such terminology is all-important. Words imply utilization of S.S.N., E.I.N. or T.I.N.
In this scenario they were implicated due to not having rights, title or deed to land. The various raiding agencies threaded together property issues with the private club status. The people involved were not & (I believe) still not aware of this. Hence the main man implicated accepting lower bail and agreeing to "terms". That is a loss IMO.
@jbrah69 Lions & tigers grow long fangs & claws so that they might kill their prey. Dolphins are water-born w/ many small jagged teeth & easily secure their daily fare. Spiders build webs. Primates still swing from trees. But, what about humans? Well, according to basic morphology, they excelled in voluminous brain growth & finely-tuned appendages for grasping objects. Fine motors skills. Technology. Domestication of animals. Chimps are chimps b/c they haven't learned this yet.
@jbrah69 Present to me one example of a mammalian species that would shun fresh raw milk if offered from a ruminant. Any, if given the opportunity, would intuitively consume milk. No matter the age. In nature, they would drink milk before water. So, why do they not? They can't; because they have no means of domesticating other species to procure such fluid. Humans do. Check your lineage. Be appreciative.
@RawRebuild I agree that raw is better than pasteurized but take a hard look around you at any animal beside the human and tell me if you see any of them sucking on other species' tits. Also whether the same species drinks milk past a certain age. Doesn't happen. Doesn't make a lot of sense but sure makes a lot of money for the ones pushing it on us.
@jbrah69 humans have the great ability to ADAPT and can easily get nutrition from milk & cheese products and does often. milk raw or not is not necessarily right for everyone however ALL human beings can get nutrition from raw milk, butter & cheese!
most information on diet & nutrition i see is theory & conjecture usually manipulated by someones food paradigm hypothesis fad however when you look at basic anthropology it's clear that man ate animal & animal by-products.
@jbrah69 Hello jbrah69. Thank you for your comment. I revealed in my former statement precisely why we do not witness other mammals consuming milk beyond suckling age. They simply do not have the capacity. Humans are differentiated from other earth species b/c they have capacities that other organisms do not. They are able to domesticate animals for their benefit. Humans consumed milk from ruminants and ungulates long before profit-motive entered the scene.
@RawRebuild After looking more into it there is research to say that pasteurized is the one that is certainly bad for health with raw having no studies to show it being bad for health. With that said however, I will not drink any still because I believe it belongs to the calf than belonging to me.
Process and industrialized meat (beef, chicken, farm raised fish) has been proven to lower the IQ in kids, it causes arthritis causes chronic fatigue in adult.
On the mild it causes ADD, AHDD, Autism, Aspergers symptoms, some young adult show aggressive and violent tendencies. Pregnant women who consume process and GMO food have a much high change of delivering premature babies, notwithstanding various other manic–depressive disorder in later life.
So Why the hammer-down and antic from our government , well big agro-businesses like Monsanto and the Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM) in tandem with the big pharmaceutical shaping our future and what we eat . Did you know Monsanto owns or in part or in full hold the pattern on over 87,000 seeds and/or GMO Crops?
State sanctioned looting is what this was. Wake up people! This government is no longer for the people. It is now for GMO corporations who have the politicians in their back pockets. The small business owners are being punished for having ethics and feeding their families honestly. We are being taxed into poverty for being successful in our lives and forced to become dependent on a government that wants us weak through welfare programs!
What country are we living in? The land of the free? Pfft yeah right. Since when is it anyone's business what foods WE put into our body? Raw milk has so many benefits, more so than pasteurized milk products.
@hanksnow82 ... doctors learn precious little about nutrition and it's impact on the body. food is a powerful medicine we take every day. are you taking burger king filled with chemicals and antibiotics, or grass fed beef fed with...grass?
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@hanksnow82 You should try some RAW green juice or wheatgrass, it might actually help you make sense. Where are your statistics to your claim of why "we pasteurize milk as a taxpayer funded enforceable federal law against individuals for choice to buy and/or sell raw milk?! I only see you asking us RAW milk drinkers and supporters why we should give up of our personal freedom of choice, when you have your pasteurized milk to buy at Wal-Mart.
@hanksnow82 Hanky, Hanky, Hanky. Family physicians are for lemmings who have yet to take the bull by the horns. They simply haven't accepted responsibility for their state of physical functionality. We understand that you're a toddler in this respect and we are here to guide. Tantrums are normal when moving through this process and we see your outbursts here for what they are. Never fear, we have monumental compassion for your deplorable state as an organism.
@RawRebuild So all physicians and doctors are brainwashed pawns in the greater multinational drug and food conspiracy, OMG NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE. The governments of the world all worked together to successfully brainwash millions of doctors and have them spread their propaganda!!! Bullshit.
@certifiedhealthnut I was parodying you and your anti doctor rants, but obviously the joke was to advanced for you, shall i dumb it down to Neanderthal language for you?
So you going to defend your original comment or you still going to beat around the bush.
@TheScienceiscool Follow the money numbnuts... Those workers are hardly impartial to honest science. They have an incentive to believe the garbage taught to them in school, although there are a few doctors with enough balls to duke it out with the FDA health/pharmaceutical gestappo force.
Dr. Brownstein is one of those doctors, he used to be a allopathic physician, now he cures various cancers using a detoxification scheme that uses iodine supplementation. < 50mg/day
@ParapaDrifter Look there are several things in the statement which piss me off. First of all referring to the FDA as the Gestapo shows an ignorance to history as he FDA is nowhere close to the brutality and cruelty that they exhibited. NOW GET BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL FALSE FACT. That is what i want to debate now your other crack pot ideas.
@TheScienceiscool "FDA as the Gestapo shows an ignorance to history as he FDA is nowhere close to the brutality and cruelty that they exhibited."
It's not like we're comparing apples to potatoes. They both use the threat of violence to control people, if rawsome resisted these Food tyrants you'd see their true nature. How hard is it to hand them a summons and take them before a court with their charges? Explain that, and you'll know why they exhibit the same belligerence to law as the gestappo.
@TheScienceiscool garbage you are referring to the years in med-school studying the human body?
~I could study one subject for 100 years and I still wouldn't know how to establish connections, or apply knowledge to wisdom. Even more so, if I have an incentive to stay in the current thought paradigm. It's called groupthink, and no body is immune to it. Innovation is the mother of necessity, and these corporate bureaucratic CATTLE don't need to do shit other than collect a paycheck from pharma
@ParapaDrifter Sorry, the last part of my rant, the first part still stands my rant was directed at the healthnut, I just thought you were him because your post sounded as goofy as his.
@TheScienceiscool not the government, the corporations lobby the government for their agenda. why are you calling me a Neanderthal do you lack the intelligence to pose a good argument? the study of disease begets disease, the study of health begets health...its as simple as that. the G -STRING THEORY is the best example of this lets see your program! and all the people that follow your principles RESULTS dont lie...drum roll please...Scienceiscool guy in his skivvy's!!!!
@certifiedhealthnut By G STRING THEORY are you referring to M (STRING) THEORY? I have a good book on that I could give you the ISBN of if you want. Now, can you finally get back to defending your first post. Lastly I do not need to show you my workout program to you, that is not what this argument is about. It IS about your misconception that natural = better always, that is untrue.
I called you a caveman because you believe that food must be consumed raw and that technology and science are bad things, do you also believe that the planet was made in 7 days? Person who fear science and technology hold us back from becoming greater as a species, if I can genetically modify someone to make then stronger and healthier, WHY NOT DO IT? If I can make super-crops resistant to pests, WHY NOT DO IT?
@TheScienceiscool because it is killing the flora and fauna and other species. biodiversity is a key ingredient to human species survival. starving people around the world in haiti africa and india have rejected GE crops! they are not a biological match for human biology...its as simple as that. did you watch the movie SUPER SIZE ME
@certifiedhealthnut I realize that I am wasting my time trying to argue with you. For your information, I read books by prestigious institutes and well educated people (Hawking comes to mind) , not error ridden web pages like you clearly do. So don't respond to this comment. (If you do you will get no response other that random chemical names in no real order.)
@TheScienceiscool "One last thing, an arm-chair scientist does not spend $5000 building his own lab."
Is that out of pocket money? or is it from a titty-fucking government grant that steals from everyone else to finance it?
With names like "thescienceiscool" and "certifiedhealthnut" I realize theDrifter is between polar opposites. One is a progressive science zealot that thinks anything new is SuperCool (TM).
The other one is an anachronistic defender of old tech.
@TheScienceiscool "If I can make super-crops resistant to pests, WHY NOT DO IT?"
~trademarking something that can invade the earth with its strain is a crime against the planet. Evenmoreso, if the GMO scientists who created it can sue another farmer for growing it's crops is the pinnacle of hypocracy, THEY are the ones invading the farmer.
Profit motive drives these abominations, healthy crops are naturally resistant to pests.
No body wants the FUCKING GMO's ANYWAY! The consumers have spoken.
@TheScienceiscool on a spiritual note, the Earth is always reaching 4 balance if your "scientific" clean energy nukes & bombs dont blow the whole place up the GMO's will simply participate in one of the biggest mass cleanses/extinctions on Earth....we all die...some earlier than others...some go thru spiritual evolution most on the planet now R destined 2 repeat some of the same pain. everyone is on their own path...you dont run into spiritual kindergarten & say: U guys should be in university!
@certifiedhealthnut Science is the key to human survival, and when people like you try to impede on our advances, you pull humanity down with you.
You are the type that has a fixed opinion that does not change even though it is disproved every day, and thus you are a caveman. Now if you will excuse me, some doctors and I have a new evil potion to make... MUHHAHAHAHAHA
@TheScienceiscool doctors? you may play doctor & wish you were a scientist however you just sit around & surf the internet as an "armchair" quaterback & attempt to play your pseudo intellectual superiority out on others. after 5 years of creating content on the internet ive seen so many of you NERD keyboardists typing away UR nonsense with NOTHING to back up anything. sorry charlie you tricks are up! zero content and poor rehashed "science will save the world" horseshit logic is a classic FAIL!
@certifiedhealthnut Look buddy, though you may not believe so, as you are an arrogant prat, I am very well educated, and yes science will help humanity. Calling me a nerd is not an insult, people use it a a complement for ma actually, and when I finish my education, which I intend to pressue to the PHD level in organic chemistry, I will prove idiots like you wrong. I am FINISHED with this line of conversation now, as you refuse to answer your first erroneous statement,
~You are right about this. Although, science controlled by profit motive and health regulatory agencies has proven that it will not. We would be curing cancer wholesale by now if the agencies didn't hate the 1st amendment in advertising so much.
Once you get your Elmer PhuD degree in organic chem. heres how this armchair scientist will tell you to apply it. Maybe you will, I certainly will, degree-less.
@TheScienceiscool So, should I take you shout down as a concession? Did I change your outlook at all?
I don't want to win the debate... I want you to consider the hardships these CROOKS put these people through. They took all their money, poured the milk down the drain, threw them in jail and for what? To stroke the phallic of FDA 'pscience,' for the safety of the people. CROCK OF SHIT.
So, what is your discipline going to be again? Lets get into how you are going to help humanity.
@ParapaDrifter Help humanity, forensic science, the science of crime, think about it... less crime=... I never supported the raid, but I don't support the health nut's crazy views either
@TheScienceiscool your first problem is your label of 'crazy'... unorthodox maybe, but I'm sure he's put alot of thought into what he believes... just like those who study the body for 10 years.
We all fall prey to our dispositions, thats why its important not to discount somebody else's brainwashing because it clashes with your particular brainwashing. If we are all a sum of our experiences, it's best to investigate all different viewpoints and add it to our own individual bodies of knowledge.
@ParapaDrifter You made a good point there, and I agree, the reason that i started this entire debate was because he made a statement which I, and several others disagreed with, and all I did was point out his error, he then exploded it into some "lets debate all of science" feud, honestly, that is not at all what i had intended.
@TheScienceiscool Last feaking comment for this guy... I got shit to do.
"Help humanity, forensic science, the science of crime, think about it... less crime="
~what happens when there is no more crime? Do more crimes get invented to justify the police's existence?
I know, lets outlaw marijuana so we can hire a whole army of tax-profitter policemen to go after non-violent hippies. It's good for the prison industry and the jobs market to prosecute non-crimes
@ParapaDrifter This is also my last comment. I don't believe that there will ever be no crime, so your proposed situation will never occur. I just believe in helping the victims of crime. Sorry, it may just be me, but I believe that pot should be illegal, i have watched what i can do to people in my family, and it is not good.
@TheScienceiscool typical treat the symptom mentality...typical modern day skewed science/medicine, fix the symptom not the root! never wholistic in scope! and further more your arrogance/ignorance that you will somehow create something in your $500 laboratory better than god/nature has designed and developed over billions of years is a sign of your own weakness and the weakness of where most science is at now on the planet. we dont require GMO's only crop rotation...composting & fallowing! duh
@certifiedhealthnut decriminalized drugs will eliminate a lot of crime. subsidizing organic farming, permaculture, free energy, investing military budgets on restoring the air, water, soil, forests, oceans and teaching the fundamental principles of holistic health will eliminate the rest of crime and wars!
spending money on researching & dissecting problems, has, in my book strengthened the problems. cancer research & cancer statistics rise exponentially in direct correlation to one another.
@TheScienceiscool and if this is your last comment thanks for being my minion. your comments drive traffic & views to my pages. I AM a fire starter stimulating sheeple into thinking & acting so we can make this world a better place. not with GMO's tho! anyone with INTELLIGENCE, not indoctrinated academic trivia knows they are bad 4 human biochemistry & Earth's biodiversity nature balance.
@TheScienceiscool good I appreciate that. What is your discipline going to be?
As far as gestapo goes, this is no different. There is always the ridiculous threat of violence. They came in with GUNS! .... HIPPIES! CHILDREN! OL'LADIES!
Is it better to scream bloody murder after or before the fact? If the FDA is the pinnacle of scientific knowledge, they should have no enforcement capability, only recommendations. If what FDA says is true, people will accept it.
@ParapaDrifter The raid was over the top, I would agree with that, but the FDA is not the pinnical of science, they. Yes they had no right to go in guns drawn. I never said that i support them, i just say that i believe in scientific advancement. I intend to study organic (carbon based) chemistry and apply it to forensic science in the discipline of toxicology.
@TheScienceiscool I suppose there is going to always be more money in going after 'bad' guys than preventative medicine/diet. Ever think how your knowledge in organic chemistry can help people's nutrition?
My armchair dreaming educated self needs a doer, haha. Essentially, my idea about food is that protein, fats, and carbs are middlemen substrates to aminos, fatty acids, and glucose(I'm uncertain about glucose)
Being middlemen, they are a drain on the body's enzymes. Cultured food is an answer.
I might have assumed that it would have been too technically advanced (incomprehensible at best) for a man with intelligence of your caliber. Well, let us give it another go. Considering that you are a man of "facts" and "science" which you wholeheartedly "believe" in, I felt it would only be appropriate to weigh in another large dose of heavy facts for your cranium. Please, simply chime in if it is too overwhelming for you. We all know how delicate Hanky can be.
Now remember...this was an LAPD action...but ordered by what I understand to be a person who had associations with the FDA, Big Pharma and the Food Multinationals.
In addition to cases such as these, the Center for Science in the Public Interest has recorded 155 outbreaks from pasteurized dairy products between 1990 and 2006, all of which are published in the group's 2008 annual report.
2007 - Three elderly individuals and an unborn child died in Massachusetts from pasteurized milk that was contaminated with listeriosis (L. monocytogenes). Investigators eventually traced the pathogen to some artificial flavorings that had been added to the milk following its pasteurization.
2005 - 1 outbreak, 200 cases C. jejuni in CO prison. (CDC 2005) Summary Statistics. Also mentioned briefly in State of Colorado Laboratory Services Division 2005-2006 Annual Report, page 17, (“The Environmental Microbiology Laboratory recovered Campylobacter from milk samples in the Colorado prison system.”)
1996 - 2 outbreaks Campylobactor and Salmonella, 48 cases in California.
1997 - 2 outbreaks, 28 cases Salmonella in California.
2000 - 1 outbreak, 98 cases/38 confirmed S. typhimurim in PA and NJ (2000) Olsen, Sonja J.; Ying, Michelle; et al; “Multidrug-resistant Salmonella Typhimurium infection from milk contaminated after pasteurization,”Emerging Infectious Diseases [serial on the Internet], 2004 MAY; available at cdc(dot)gov/ncidod/EID/vol10no5/03-0484(dot)htm, accessed 28-May-2007.
1994 - 224,000 people contracted salmonella infection from Schwan's ice cream according to a report in the New England Journal of Medicine. The pasteurized ice cream premix had been contaminated during transport, leading to an even larger outbreak of salmonella than the one in 1985.
1994 - 3 outbreaks, 105 cases, E. Coli & Listeria in California.
1993-94 - 1 outbreak, 2014 cases/142 confirmed S. enteritidis due to pasteurized ice cream in MN, SD, WI (1993-1994) Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “Outbreak of Salmonella enteritidis Associated with Nationally Distributed Ice CreamProducts--Minnesota, South Dakota, and Wisconsin, 1994,” Morbidity & Mortality Weekly Report, 1994 OCT 14; 43(40).
1985 - 197,000 cases of antimicrobial-resistant Salmonella infections from one dairy in California. Investigation into this case revealed that the same strain of salmonella had repeatedly been contaminating milk after it was pasteurized for at least ten months prior to the outbreak. Up until that time, it was the largest outbreak of salmonella ever identified in the United States.
1983 - 1 outbreak, 49 cases of listeriosis in Massachusetts. (1983) Fleming, D.W.; Cochi, S.L.; et al; “Pasteurized milk as a vehicle of infection in an outbreak of listeriosis,” New England Journal of Medicine,1985 FEB 14; 312(7):404-407.
1984 - 1 outbreak S. typhimurium, approximately 200 cases, at one plant in Melrose Park, IL.
1984 - November, 1 outbreak S. typhimurium, at same plant in Melrose Park, IL.
1982 - over 17,000 cases of yersinia enterocolitica from milk produced in Memphis, Tenn.(1982) Segal, Marian; “Invisible villains; tiny microbes are biggest food hazard,” FDA Consumer, JUL-AUG 1988.
1982 - 172 cases, with over 100 hospitalized from a three-Southern-state area.
1976 - 1 outbreak Y. enterocolitica in 36 children, 16 of whom hadappendectomies, due to pasteurized chocolate milk (1976) Black, R.E.; Jackson, R.J.; et al; “Epidemic Yersinia enterocolitica infection due to contaminated chocolate milk,” New England Journal ofMedicine, January 12, 1978; 298(2):76-79. Milk was purchased in school cafeterias; investigation suggested that the bacterium was introduced at thedairy during the mixing by hand of chocolate syrup with previously pasteurized milk.
300 some people die a day from FDA approved prescription drugs but raw milk is illegal?????? Number 2, who do you work for?
oldno74 1 month ago
@oldno74 Ever heard of cost versus risk analysis? Just saying.
sekamenacerecords1 5 days ago
This is crazy!!!! Why don't they bust in the doors at Merck, Pfizer or Johnson and Johnson. This is an outrage!!!!
robinsonjd1978 1 month ago
Look at all these rich hippies in west LA! go with what your told. Big brother is always watching.
acenspades 2 months ago
rediculous
gergot 2 months ago
To understand about the benefits/contamination of Raw milk in laymen terms...Type in YT search box "The Truth about Raw Milk with Mark Mcafee from Organic Pastures"
totobitthewizard 2 months ago
@KRIPDRIP YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO UNITY
totobitthewizard 2 months ago
@kripdrip YOUR OBVIOUSLY NOT A CONSTITUTIONALIST
totobitthewizard 2 months ago
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@kripdrip YOUR OBVIOUSLY NOT AMERICAN
totobitthewizard 2 months ago
curses on the 1%
stealthgerm 3 months ago
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its illegal. Just give up and take it up the ass like the potheads. They say "legalize it" and then at the end of the day do nothing.
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its illegal. Just give up and take it up the ass like the potheads. They say "legalize it" and then at the end of the day do nothing.
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KripDrip 3 months ago
Is there any question that the powers that be want us all unhealthy and stupid- we are much easier to control that way.
urflofit2010 3 months ago
In appreciation of certifiedhealthnut's response per the communication of FathomlessJoy - as well as the point made by Gemoirec. Indeed - so many of us have yet to awaken from a pronounced attachment to the utterly mundane...at the very least or the most benign.
inremembranceofruth 4 months ago
Bernard was right; the Terrain is everything, the Germ is nothing.
thinkjesus 4 months ago
"that milk HAS to be pasteurized!"
thinkjesus 4 months ago
hahahaha
thinkjesus 4 months ago
It's sad that this video only has 10,000 views while other videos (of celebrities) have millions of views. This goes to show this country's priorities. It makes me so sad. (PS - I am extremely grateful for the 10,500 people who DID watch it) (I am also NOT being negative towards celebrities - I'm jus sayin....)
Gemoirec 4 months ago
you have to be a fool that america will be just the same as nazi germany in a few years. The evidence for that direction is so giant.
Mongodelight 4 months ago 3
I'd like to support this, however why didn't they have the proper permit? This could have been avoided.
ryoshi100 5 months ago
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Aajonus Vonderplanitz says he is a real doctor! He aint lol! Thats not even his real fucken name!
The dude is a scammer. Ask him about the bovine luekemia present in the raw milk he sells. Just dont be close enough so he can punch you in the face though! The dude is a violent crackpot.
durianriders 5 months ago
A message to the PTB
people want what they what. illegally or illegally. they will get it. banning it only makes it more likely that people will be exposed to risky products. you try to protect us from ourselves but you put us in more danger. if you legalize it, you can regulate it. you can set safety standards, andyou can tax it. you can also save money from having to prosecute and jail decent, hard working, tax paying citizens who are simply meeting the demand of the public.
Bigpussycat5 5 months ago
I am not sure why anyone would want to drink milk. After all, it has many toxins and healthy substances in it. The kicker tho is that it is loaded with pus and blood. So, when you drink raw milk, although it is all the rave, you are drinking all that pus and blood without being sterilized or neutralized in any way. Of course even with pasteurization it is still very unhealthy, but drinking un-treated pus, that would make me puke.
FathomlessJoy 5 months ago
@FathomlessJoy thanks for your opinion. i personally do not like milk however i believe anyone should have the right to choose what they feel is right for them. i also know a lot of people that drink it for THEIR health & R very healthy. pus & blood in healthy animals? maybe, however, what i see often these days is people get sick eating unhealthy animals then cleaning out using some veg diet or vegan dogma & believe that all humans should eat that way. that is not only arrogant but ignorant.
certifiedhealthnut 5 months ago 6
@certifiedhealthnut Actually, it is a fact that it has pus and blood, not a opinion. Right? On average there are 350 million pus cells per liter. These come from infected udders and teats. If it was my opinion, then tests would not so it to be true, the government wouldn't set guidelines as to how much pus and blood can be in milk, and the farmers would not have to test the milk and keep it in the guidelines, which is less than 750 million parts per liter.
They are healthy in spite of milk.
FathomlessJoy 5 months ago
@FathomlessJoy
oh come off trying to gross people out.
just about everything we eat is covered is dirt, shit, piss, puss, blood, insects, germs and those want to eat of of that raw in the hopes they get more goodness out of their good... thats up to them. people should just be allowed to eat what they want. period.
Bigpussycat5 5 months ago
This is so not right. This is like Nazi Germany. What a shame.
Dominick1956 5 months ago
this is fucked up.
modshroom 5 months ago
This is what happens because the majority didn't protest/vote against bill S510 and now look up what senator Dick Durbins trying to pass(law against dietary supplements-selling,buying,possessing)!And it will be shoved down our throat too.!!!
totobitthewizard 5 months ago
maybe u should move to somalia where anything can be bought or sold freely with no government intervention
KripDrip 3 months ago
Its OUR God given right to eat raw foods of our choice.All the time your protesting peacefully,their taking another one of your rights!!! Stern unity of the masses will stop this illegal shit,until then"Sit back and watch whos next".
totobitthewizard 5 months ago
this is revulting news how can they do this
11maisey11 5 months ago
about 90 min in rather - the whole movie is worth watching though
MrIzzyDizzy 6 months ago
watch?v=Hm0osF7GGT0&feature=channel_video_title -about 80 min in it has a story about 2 fox reporters who were fired for trying to report( they were never allowed) that the doctored milk causes cancer - we have to get control back from the fascist. there is a new idea that brings wealth to all people without subjugation and within the caring capacity of the earth called the resource based economy -watch zeitgeist addendum and zeitgeist moving forward and join the movement 1155 chapters < 2yrs
MrIzzyDizzy 6 months ago
Yeah dude, and this "review" that you speak of is likely of a government entity which again, should always be called into question. All of the evidence points to aspartame's harmful effects. There is controversy behind this synthetic for a reason and you continue to do quick little google searches to keep up with me with by posting generic claims. You may be polite, but you still fit the category of TROLL.
77bogart 6 months ago
Bobby Williams extreme adventurer HAHAHA
fleury150 6 months ago
Upvote this if you support armed violent revolt against the government.
omegapoint777 6 months ago
So coke and pepsi machines in the the hallways of LA county schools is ok huh, but God forbid a private business produce and sell healthy raw milk to the public. The fact that they want us all sick while at the same time taking away personal freedoms is not a conspiracy theory but a conspiracy fact.
77bogart 6 months ago
@77bogart
Sodas can't give you a bacterial infection like raw milk can. The idea that Raw milk is healthy is a myth.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@TheAntiV Sorry bud, but your comment is absurd. Yes, in VERY RARE cases raw milk may cause a bacterial infection. A simple google search will reveal studies showing the health benefits of the probiotics and live enzymes in raw milk. One study concluded that raw milk reduces allergies in children. And clearly sodas can't give you a bacterial infection, but since you mention it, it is responsible for causing much worse.
77bogart 6 months ago
@77bogart
According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 300 people in the United States got sick from drinking raw milk or eating cheese made from raw milk in 2001, and nearly 200 became ill from these products in 2002. "Drinking raw milk or eating raw milk products is like playing Russian roulette with your health," says John Sheehan, director of the Food and Drug Administration's Division of Dairy and Egg Safety.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@TheAntiV 300 people got sick? 300/350,000,000 *100= 0.00008% of the US population got ill didnt die got ill. This your scare stat? Americans are more likely to be struck by lightning. Don't be such a coward. Its like playing russian roulette with a gun that has 1,166,666 chambers. IF you spin the chamber once and then once a day pull the trigger it will take you 3196 years before you go through all the chambers.
fleury150 6 months ago
@TheAntiV Studies have also shown a direct correlation between the childhood obesity epidemic and soda intake, and with 10 to 12 teaspoon in a can of soda it is no wonder why. Phosphorus also leeches calcium from the bones. High fructose corn syrup and aspartame are other soda ingredients proven to damage one's health.
77bogart 6 months ago
@77bogart
The claims that aspartame is incredibly harmful has been grossly exaggerated.
According to the National Cancer Institute, statistics show that the increase of brain and central nervous system cancers began in 1973, eight years before Aspartame appeared.
Also, a human being needs at least 8 cans of soda a day to develop one cancer cell.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@fleury150
You forgot that the majority of Americans don't drink raw milk you numbnut.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@TheAntiV So how many do? Quantify it for me so I may be properly cowed into submission.
PS If raw milk wasn't healthy humans wouldn't have been drinking it for thousands of years. Pasteurization is only 150 years old.
fleury150 6 months ago
@fleury150
That's because the advances of pasteurization wasn't developed until 1886 when it was first suggested by Franz von Soxhlet. Pasteurization can prevent include tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever and Q-fever; it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli 157 among others.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
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@77bogart
Aw yes, another cretin who fell for the ridiculous artificial sweetener panic. Reviews have found no association between aspartame and cancer. These reviews have looked at numerous carcinogenicity studies in animals, epidemiologic studies in humans, as well as in vitro genotoxicity studies. These studies have found no significant evidence that aspartame causes cancer in animals, damages the genome, or causes cancer in humans at doses currently used.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@TheAntiV You still did not quantify it. How many people are drinking raw milk and not getting sick? What percentage of raw milk consumers are getting sick? Show me #'s that justify a gov't guns drawn raid and destruction of private property, because some hippies want to consume food that isn't controlled by the FDA.
fleury150 6 months ago
@fleury150
Also, been have been doing all kinds of unhealthy acts for hundreds of years before new innovative ways were developed that helped improve our health. You think that just because for the majority of human existence people consumed unpasteurized milk automatically means it was okay to consume it?
I guess bloodletting is okay since many people were also doing that in the past for so long.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
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TheAntiV 6 months ago
@TheAntiV FACT: 67% of Americans R OBESE & 1 in 2 will now get cancer. that observation tells me that there is something SYSTEMICALLY WRONG with the food that the government is "approving" of ie; subsidized pasteurized dairy industry, hormones, pesticides, GMO state subsidized crops & the Monsanto chemical company having their officials appointed as food safety personnel appointed to run the USDA/FDA. UR ignorance of these poignant topics points to U being the numbnut projecting upon others!
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut
Great job at misreading statistical information you idiot. Bu the exact percentage is that 63.1% of Americans are either overweight OR obese. The recent gallop finds that 36.6% of Americans are overweight and 26.5% obese.
Despite all the claims that chemicals used in farming are bad for us, it turns out cancer rates have dropped 15 percent since farmers began using chemicals.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut
How is that possible? Well it's mainly due to people being able to afford more fruits and vegetables, because the chemicals allow more to be grown. That's one reason the average life expectancy in the US went up by almost 10 years between 1950 and 2000.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@TheAntiV Wow, once again you post nonsense. You saying something is exaggerated is at least a concession on your part that there is something behind the claims of the harm it does to the human body. FACT: ASPARTAME is a synthetic and is classified as an excitotoxin that is 200 times sweeter than sugar and resulted in tumors in a study with lab rats. I see you have done a little google searching in order to keep up with my comments and regurgitating the "8 cans of soda" line as well.
77bogart 6 months ago
@TheAntiV FACT: ASPARTAME was initially banned in the US before Monsanto petioned the FDA. FACT: ASPARTAME is banned in all childrens products in the European market. Are you a troll, or do you really find it that hard to believe that a laboratory synthetic ingredient can do harm to the human body?
77bogart 6 months ago
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@77bogart
Aw yes, another cretin who fell for the ridiculous artificial sweetener panic. Reviews have found no association between aspartame and cancer. These reviews have looked at numerous carcinogenicity studies in animals, epidemiologic studies in humans, as well as in vitro genotoxicity studies. These studies have found no significant evidence that aspartame causes cancer in animals, damages the genome, or causes cancer in humans at doses currently used.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@77bogart
This position is supported by multiple regulatory agencies like the FDA and EFSA as well as scientific bodies such as the National Cancer Institute.
Concern about possible carcinogenic properties of aspartame was originally raised and popularized in the mainstream media by John Olney in 1970s and again in 1996 by suggesting that aspartame may be related to brain tumors.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@77bogart
Reviews have found that these concerns were flawed, due to reliance on the ecological fallacy and the purported mechanism of causing tumors being unlikely to actually cause cancer. Independent agencies such as the FDA and National Cancer Institute have reanalyzed multiple studies based on these worries and found no association between aspartame and brain cancer.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@77bogart
The European Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences (ERF) has released several studies which claim that aspartame can increase several malignancies in rats, concluding that aspartame is a potential carcinogen at normal dietary doses.
Although thirteen occupational safety and health experts signed an open letter from CSPI to the FDA expressing that the 2007 ERF study merited a reevaluation of aspartame's safety in humans, (cont)
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@77bogart these studies have been widely criticized and discounted by the FDA and other food safety agencies:
After reviewing the foundation's claims, the EFSA[66] and the FDA discounted the study results and found no reason to revise their previously established acceptable daily intake levels for aspartame. Reported flaws were numerous and included, but were not limited to, the following:
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@77bogart
comparing cancer rates of older aspartame-consuming rats to younger control rats; unspecified composition of the "Corticella" diet and method of adding aspartame, leading to possible nutritional deficiencies; unspecified aspartame storage conditions; lack of animal randomization; overcrowding and a high incidence of possibly carcinogenic infections; and the U.S. National Toxicology Program's finding that the ERF had misdiagnosed hyperplasias as malignancies.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@TheAntiV I guess I should applaud you for your ability to visit website, then proceed to cut and paste entire chunks of information. I could easily do the same at this time but I choose not to. Like I stated before, the evidence showing the dangers of aspartame is large and important. You noting the FDA discounting results is irrelevant considering that the FDA has become a farce and a total joke. Please open your eyes and dig deeper in your research.
77bogart 6 months ago
@77bogart
Just because things are banned doesn't mean it was a good idea to ban them. Studies can be flawed. Take DDT for example. Thanks to a stupid treehugging twat who cited flawed data millions have died due to Malaria around the world.
Is this all you have? Conspiracy theories and speculation? Sometimes I don't like the FDA either but this disregard for contradictory evidence is nothing more than a cop out.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@TheAntiV Obama appointed Michael R. Taylor the deputy commisioner for the FDA. And who did Michael R. Taylor previously work for? The answer is MONSANTO. Taylor was the VP at MONSANTO, which is the company that produces ASPARTAME. See how this shit works my friend. You citing a government study in this case is the epitome of conflict of interest. Your efforts to defend a synthetic ingredient is a losing one, and a bit odd. Take care
77bogart 6 months ago
@77bogart
The key word is "previously." Maybe if it said currently it would cause some alarm. But do you know why the hire these kinds of people? It's because they know what the fuck they are talking about. Who else would Obama hire? Some treehugging organic nut?
I definitely see how shit works. I see how you bring up a fucking straw man when you haven't the slightest clue who did the study. It's truly a pitiful attempt really.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@77bogart
One more thing you colossal idiot. The FDA wasn't the only group which refuted the studies on rats.
Evaluation of this research by Health Canada and the British government's Committee on Carcinogenicity of Chemicals in Food, Consumer Products and the Environment likewise found methodological problems with the research and did not recommend any further reconsideration of the recommended intake of aspartame in their respective countries.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
@77bogart
Another review criticized the Ramazzini Foundation for relying on 'science by press conference' with its release of results through the media before being published in a proper peer-reviewed journal, thus helping fuel the controversy and publicity about the study in the media.
TheAntiV 6 months ago
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TylerTolmanTT 6 months ago
OBSERVATION: The customers and staff of the Rawsome store appear to be of ideal body weight. The cops seem to to successfully representing the results of the fast food sector.
QUESTION: Has Cargill Meat Solutions Corp been raided?
KenMalmstrom 6 months ago
Its another fascist day!
victrola13 6 months ago
So it's okay to drink soda(which is definitely NOT natural)....but drinking an actual healthy drink like raw milk is illegal?? I will not be surprised there will be another civil war in the states due to the most redundant laws the government, our employees, make...
ironman711 6 months ago
When there is a raid on drugs they take everything into custody. Why would they pour the Raw Milk down drains???? I smell Corrupt Law!!! This nation is bent on creating and allowing illness not curing it. Sad!
Sheslocdup 6 months ago
In my previous posting, I failed to clearly delineate the difference between input power, process and output. Although Monsanto and the Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM)
Gluluman 6 months ago
are the power behind the push to shut down holistic organic entities in Santa Monica and the like, at upper end Monsanto is the tormenter, the intimidators and emotional buzzers of the American Farmers throughout the Mid- western Corridors of the US. They instill fear in the heart on the struggling farmers.
Gluluman 6 months ago
On the other hand, the softer treat is due to competition and market share – so the crux at play here is what other entity may suffer from having such store in business. Well!!! rather clear “ Whole Food, Trader Joe’s, Gelson’s. (hypothetical assumption)
Gluluman 6 months ago
The police are told not to question or lock up illegal aliens. The Feds refuse to lock up gun running gangs moving back and forth across our borders.However the police and federal government have no problem raiding the business and locking the owner of a person who is selling healthy food. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xxdonaldqxxx 6 months ago
@xxdonaldqxxx There were no "sales" of food. It wasn't a "business". Such terminology is all-important. Words imply utilization of S.S.N., E.I.N. or T.I.N.
In this scenario they were implicated due to not having rights, title or deed to land. The various raiding agencies threaded together property issues with the private club status. The people involved were not & (I believe) still not aware of this. Hence the main man implicated accepting lower bail and agreeing to "terms". That is a loss IMO.
RawRebuild 6 months ago
That milk is meant for calfs not humans..
jbrah69 6 months ago
@jbrah69 Lions & tigers grow long fangs & claws so that they might kill their prey. Dolphins are water-born w/ many small jagged teeth & easily secure their daily fare. Spiders build webs. Primates still swing from trees. But, what about humans? Well, according to basic morphology, they excelled in voluminous brain growth & finely-tuned appendages for grasping objects. Fine motors skills. Technology. Domestication of animals. Chimps are chimps b/c they haven't learned this yet.
RawRebuild 6 months ago
@jbrah69 Present to me one example of a mammalian species that would shun fresh raw milk if offered from a ruminant. Any, if given the opportunity, would intuitively consume milk. No matter the age. In nature, they would drink milk before water. So, why do they not? They can't; because they have no means of domesticating other species to procure such fluid. Humans do. Check your lineage. Be appreciative.
RawRebuild 6 months ago
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jbrah69 6 months ago
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present to me the person who looked at a cows utters and said 'lets go suck that thing off'
jbrah69 6 months ago
@RawRebuild I agree that raw is better than pasteurized but take a hard look around you at any animal beside the human and tell me if you see any of them sucking on other species' tits. Also whether the same species drinks milk past a certain age. Doesn't happen. Doesn't make a lot of sense but sure makes a lot of money for the ones pushing it on us.
jbrah69 6 months ago
@jbrah69 humans have the great ability to ADAPT and can easily get nutrition from milk & cheese products and does often. milk raw or not is not necessarily right for everyone however ALL human beings can get nutrition from raw milk, butter & cheese!
most information on diet & nutrition i see is theory & conjecture usually manipulated by someones food paradigm hypothesis fad however when you look at basic anthropology it's clear that man ate animal & animal by-products.
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@jbrah69 Hello jbrah69. Thank you for your comment. I revealed in my former statement precisely why we do not witness other mammals consuming milk beyond suckling age. They simply do not have the capacity. Humans are differentiated from other earth species b/c they have capacities that other organisms do not. They are able to domesticate animals for their benefit. Humans consumed milk from ruminants and ungulates long before profit-motive entered the scene.
RawRebuild 6 months ago
@RawRebuild After looking more into it there is research to say that pasteurized is the one that is certainly bad for health with raw having no studies to show it being bad for health. With that said however, I will not drink any still because I believe it belongs to the calf than belonging to me.
jbrah69 6 months ago
Process and industrialized meat (beef, chicken, farm raised fish) has been proven to lower the IQ in kids, it causes arthritis causes chronic fatigue in adult.
Gluluman 6 months ago
On the mild it causes ADD, AHDD, Autism, Aspergers symptoms, some young adult show aggressive and violent tendencies. Pregnant women who consume process and GMO food have a much high change of delivering premature babies, notwithstanding various other manic–depressive disorder in later life.
Gluluman 6 months ago
So Why the hammer-down and antic from our government , well big agro-businesses like Monsanto and the Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM) in tandem with the big pharmaceutical shaping our future and what we eat . Did you know Monsanto owns or in part or in full hold the pattern on over 87,000 seeds and/or GMO Crops?
Gluluman 6 months ago
the reporter looks like superman or clark kent
g19hoops83 6 months ago
State sanctioned looting is what this was. Wake up people! This government is no longer for the people. It is now for GMO corporations who have the politicians in their back pockets. The small business owners are being punished for having ethics and feeding their families honestly. We are being taxed into poverty for being successful in our lives and forced to become dependent on a government that wants us weak through welfare programs!
HeartOnMySleeve77 6 months ago
What country are we living in? The land of the free? Pfft yeah right. Since when is it anyone's business what foods WE put into our body? Raw milk has so many benefits, more so than pasteurized milk products.
hootiemaniac 6 months ago
milk is bad so whataver
ahunter 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 ... doctors learn precious little about nutrition and it's impact on the body. food is a powerful medicine we take every day. are you taking burger king filled with chemicals and antibiotics, or grass fed beef fed with...grass?
nathankershaw 6 months ago
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WTU208 6 months ago
TERRIFIC COAST TO COAST AM RADIO SHOW TONIGHT. IF YOU MISS IT, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD A PODCAST IF NEEDED. FDA Raids, Wed Aug 10, Constitutional lawyer specializing in food and drug law, Jonathan Emord, talks about the FDA's raids on raw milk producers, and how changes in the FDA guidelines will erode freedom. Apparently, I cannot post with the website. I'm sure you guys can easily find it. :)
Andi85202 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 Where are your statistics to your claim of why "we pasteurize milk"?
bravelivefree 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 You should try some RAW green juice or wheatgrass, it might actually help you make sense. Where are your statistics to your claim of why "we pasteurize milk as a taxpayer funded enforceable federal law against individuals for choice to buy and/or sell raw milk?! I only see you asking us RAW milk drinkers and supporters why we should give up of our personal freedom of choice, when you have your pasteurized milk to buy at Wal-Mart.
bravelivefree 6 months ago
@hanksnow82 Hanky, Hanky, Hanky. Family physicians are for lemmings who have yet to take the bull by the horns. They simply haven't accepted responsibility for their state of physical functionality. We understand that you're a toddler in this respect and we are here to guide. Tantrums are normal when moving through this process and we see your outbursts here for what they are. Never fear, we have monumental compassion for your deplorable state as an organism.
RawRebuild 6 months ago
@RawRebuild So all physicians and doctors are brainwashed pawns in the greater multinational drug and food conspiracy, OMG NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE. The governments of the world all worked together to successfully brainwash millions of doctors and have them spread their propaganda!!! Bullshit.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool If anyone is wondering, i think the conspiracy is the bullshit as in crazy talk and ramblings of madmen
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool what conspiracy? what are you rambling about?
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut I was parodying you and your anti doctor rants, but obviously the joke was to advanced for you, shall i dumb it down to Neanderthal language for you?
So you going to defend your original comment or you still going to beat around the bush.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool Follow the money numbnuts... Those workers are hardly impartial to honest science. They have an incentive to believe the garbage taught to them in school, although there are a few doctors with enough balls to duke it out with the FDA health/pharmaceutical gestappo force.
Dr. Brownstein is one of those doctors, he used to be a allopathic physician, now he cures various cancers using a detoxification scheme that uses iodine supplementation. < 50mg/day
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter Look there are several things in the statement which piss me off. First of all referring to the FDA as the Gestapo shows an ignorance to history as he FDA is nowhere close to the brutality and cruelty that they exhibited. NOW GET BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL FALSE FACT. That is what i want to debate now your other crack pot ideas.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool "FDA as the Gestapo shows an ignorance to history as he FDA is nowhere close to the brutality and cruelty that they exhibited."
It's not like we're comparing apples to potatoes. They both use the threat of violence to control people, if rawsome resisted these Food tyrants you'd see their true nature. How hard is it to hand them a summons and take them before a court with their charges? Explain that, and you'll know why they exhibit the same belligerence to law as the gestappo.
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter Look, Gestapo hanged people on the streets, shot people in their homes, you don't know what you are talking about
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter so by garbage you are referring to the years in med-school studying the human body?
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool garbage you are referring to the years in med-school studying the human body?
~I could study one subject for 100 years and I still wouldn't know how to establish connections, or apply knowledge to wisdom. Even more so, if I have an incentive to stay in the current thought paradigm. It's called groupthink, and no body is immune to it. Innovation is the mother of necessity, and these corporate bureaucratic CATTLE don't need to do shit other than collect a paycheck from pharma
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter Sorry, the last part of my rant, the first part still stands my rant was directed at the healthnut, I just thought you were him because your post sounded as goofy as his.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool not the government, the corporations lobby the government for their agenda. why are you calling me a Neanderthal do you lack the intelligence to pose a good argument? the study of disease begets disease, the study of health begets health...its as simple as that. the G -STRING THEORY is the best example of this lets see your program! and all the people that follow your principles RESULTS dont lie...drum roll please...Scienceiscool guy in his skivvy's!!!!
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut By G STRING THEORY are you referring to M (STRING) THEORY? I have a good book on that I could give you the ISBN of if you want. Now, can you finally get back to defending your first post. Lastly I do not need to show you my workout program to you, that is not what this argument is about. It IS about your misconception that natural = better always, that is untrue.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut Why i called you a caveman:
I called you a caveman because you believe that food must be consumed raw and that technology and science are bad things, do you also believe that the planet was made in 7 days? Person who fear science and technology hold us back from becoming greater as a species, if I can genetically modify someone to make then stronger and healthier, WHY NOT DO IT? If I can make super-crops resistant to pests, WHY NOT DO IT?
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool because it is killing the flora and fauna and other species. biodiversity is a key ingredient to human species survival. starving people around the world in haiti africa and india have rejected GE crops! they are not a biological match for human biology...its as simple as that. did you watch the movie SUPER SIZE ME
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut I realize that I am wasting my time trying to argue with you. For your information, I read books by prestigious institutes and well educated people (Hawking comes to mind) , not error ridden web pages like you clearly do. So don't respond to this comment. (If you do you will get no response other that random chemical names in no real order.)
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut One last thing, an arm-chair scientist does not spend $5000 building his own lab.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
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TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool "One last thing, an arm-chair scientist does not spend $5000 building his own lab."
Is that out of pocket money? or is it from a titty-fucking government grant that steals from everyone else to finance it?
With names like "thescienceiscool" and "certifiedhealthnut" I realize theDrifter is between polar opposites. One is a progressive science zealot that thinks anything new is SuperCool (TM).
The other one is an anachronistic defender of old tech.
Dialectic is what is needed.
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool "If I can make super-crops resistant to pests, WHY NOT DO IT?"
~trademarking something that can invade the earth with its strain is a crime against the planet. Evenmoreso, if the GMO scientists who created it can sue another farmer for growing it's crops is the pinnacle of hypocracy, THEY are the ones invading the farmer.
Profit motive drives these abominations, healthy crops are naturally resistant to pests.
No body wants the FUCKING GMO's ANYWAY! The consumers have spoken.
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool on a spiritual note, the Earth is always reaching 4 balance if your "scientific" clean energy nukes & bombs dont blow the whole place up the GMO's will simply participate in one of the biggest mass cleanses/extinctions on Earth....we all die...some earlier than others...some go thru spiritual evolution most on the planet now R destined 2 repeat some of the same pain. everyone is on their own path...you dont run into spiritual kindergarten & say: U guys should be in university!
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut Science is the key to human survival, and when people like you try to impede on our advances, you pull humanity down with you.
You are the type that has a fixed opinion that does not change even though it is disproved every day, and thus you are a caveman. Now if you will excuse me, some doctors and I have a new evil potion to make... MUHHAHAHAHAHA
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool doctors? you may play doctor & wish you were a scientist however you just sit around & surf the internet as an "armchair" quaterback & attempt to play your pseudo intellectual superiority out on others. after 5 years of creating content on the internet ive seen so many of you NERD keyboardists typing away UR nonsense with NOTHING to back up anything. sorry charlie you tricks are up! zero content and poor rehashed "science will save the world" horseshit logic is a classic FAIL!
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut Look buddy, though you may not believe so, as you are an arrogant prat, I am very well educated, and yes science will help humanity. Calling me a nerd is not an insult, people use it a a complement for ma actually, and when I finish my education, which I intend to pressue to the PHD level in organic chemistry, I will prove idiots like you wrong. I am FINISHED with this line of conversation now, as you refuse to answer your first erroneous statement,
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool "yes science will help humanity."
~You are right about this. Although, science controlled by profit motive and health regulatory agencies has proven that it will not. We would be curing cancer wholesale by now if the agencies didn't hate the 1st amendment in advertising so much.
Once you get your Elmer PhuD degree in organic chem. heres how this armchair scientist will tell you to apply it. Maybe you will, I certainly will, degree-less.
Replicate ruminant animal digestion
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter It is out of pocket money i earned and put towards my own lab.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
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TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool So, should I take you shout down as a concession? Did I change your outlook at all?
I don't want to win the debate... I want you to consider the hardships these CROOKS put these people through. They took all their money, poured the milk down the drain, threw them in jail and for what? To stroke the phallic of FDA 'pscience,' for the safety of the people. CROCK OF SHIT.
So, what is your discipline going to be again? Lets get into how you are going to help humanity.
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter Help humanity, forensic science, the science of crime, think about it... less crime=... I never supported the raid, but I don't support the health nut's crazy views either
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool your first problem is your label of 'crazy'... unorthodox maybe, but I'm sure he's put alot of thought into what he believes... just like those who study the body for 10 years.
We all fall prey to our dispositions, thats why its important not to discount somebody else's brainwashing because it clashes with your particular brainwashing. If we are all a sum of our experiences, it's best to investigate all different viewpoints and add it to our own individual bodies of knowledge.
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter You made a good point there, and I agree, the reason that i started this entire debate was because he made a statement which I, and several others disagreed with, and all I did was point out his error, he then exploded it into some "lets debate all of science" feud, honestly, that is not at all what i had intended.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool Last feaking comment for this guy... I got shit to do.
"Help humanity, forensic science, the science of crime, think about it... less crime="
~what happens when there is no more crime? Do more crimes get invented to justify the police's existence?
I know, lets outlaw marijuana so we can hire a whole army of tax-profitter policemen to go after non-violent hippies. It's good for the prison industry and the jobs market to prosecute non-crimes
Have a good life, realize your worth
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter This is also my last comment. I don't believe that there will ever be no crime, so your proposed situation will never occur. I just believe in helping the victims of crime. Sorry, it may just be me, but I believe that pot should be illegal, i have watched what i can do to people in my family, and it is not good.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool typical treat the symptom mentality...typical modern day skewed science/medicine, fix the symptom not the root! never wholistic in scope! and further more your arrogance/ignorance that you will somehow create something in your $500 laboratory better than god/nature has designed and developed over billions of years is a sign of your own weakness and the weakness of where most science is at now on the planet. we dont require GMO's only crop rotation...composting & fallowing! duh
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@certifiedhealthnut decriminalized drugs will eliminate a lot of crime. subsidizing organic farming, permaculture, free energy, investing military budgets on restoring the air, water, soil, forests, oceans and teaching the fundamental principles of holistic health will eliminate the rest of crime and wars!
spending money on researching & dissecting problems, has, in my book strengthened the problems. cancer research & cancer statistics rise exponentially in direct correlation to one another.
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool and if this is your last comment thanks for being my minion. your comments drive traffic & views to my pages. I AM a fire starter stimulating sheeple into thinking & acting so we can make this world a better place. not with GMO's tho! anyone with INTELLIGENCE, not indoctrinated academic trivia knows they are bad 4 human biochemistry & Earth's biodiversity nature balance.
certifiedhealthnut 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool good I appreciate that. What is your discipline going to be?
As far as gestapo goes, this is no different. There is always the ridiculous threat of violence. They came in with GUNS! .... HIPPIES! CHILDREN! OL'LADIES!
Is it better to scream bloody murder after or before the fact? If the FDA is the pinnacle of scientific knowledge, they should have no enforcement capability, only recommendations. If what FDA says is true, people will accept it.
No reason for the raid, period.
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
@ParapaDrifter The raid was over the top, I would agree with that, but the FDA is not the pinnical of science, they. Yes they had no right to go in guns drawn. I never said that i support them, i just say that i believe in scientific advancement. I intend to study organic (carbon based) chemistry and apply it to forensic science in the discipline of toxicology.
TheScienceiscool 6 months ago
@TheScienceiscool I suppose there is going to always be more money in going after 'bad' guys than preventative medicine/diet. Ever think how your knowledge in organic chemistry can help people's nutrition?
My armchair dreaming educated self needs a doer, haha. Essentially, my idea about food is that protein, fats, and carbs are middlemen substrates to aminos, fatty acids, and glucose(I'm uncertain about glucose)
Being middlemen, they are a drain on the body's enzymes. Cultured food is an answer.
ParapaDrifter 6 months ago
I might have assumed that it would have been too technically advanced (incomprehensible at best) for a man with intelligence of your caliber. Well, let us give it another go. Considering that you are a man of "facts" and "science" which you wholeheartedly "believe" in, I felt it would only be appropriate to weigh in another large dose of heavy facts for your cranium. Please, simply chime in if it is too overwhelming for you. We all know how delicate Hanky can be.
RawRebuild 6 months ago
When they come for your guns, give them your bullets first.
When they come for your food, give them your bullets first.
MrAnonymous2012 6 months ago
Now remember...this was an LAPD action...but ordered by what I understand to be a person who had associations with the FDA, Big Pharma and the Food Multinationals.
davehutchinson67 6 months ago
What a bunch of ignorant luddites
hanksnow82 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I'll be back in 24 hrs to continue.
All sarcasm aside, thanks for initiating the discussion @hanksnow82.
RawRebuild 6 months ago
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In addition to cases such as these, the Center for Science in the Public Interest has recorded 155 outbreaks from pasteurized dairy products between 1990 and 2006, all of which are published in the group's 2008 annual report.
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2007 - Three elderly individuals and an unborn child died in Massachusetts from pasteurized milk that was contaminated with listeriosis (L. monocytogenes). Investigators eventually traced the pathogen to some artificial flavorings that had been added to the milk following its pasteurization.
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@RawRebuild People die of pasteurized milk. FYI
faithm 6 months ago
@RawRebuild sorry about my incorrect reply XD
faithm 6 months ago
2006 - 1 outbreak, 1592 cases/52 confirmed C. jejuni infections in eleven California prison facilities contracted campylobacter (C. jejuni) from tainted pasteurized milk. (2006) Yuan, Jean W.; Jay, M.T.; et al, “Campylobacteriosis Outbreak Associated with Pasteurized Milk - California, May 2006,” Epidemic Intelligence Service Conference 2007 (CDC), 2007 APR 16; page 62.
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2005 - 1 outbreak, 200 cases C. jejuni in CO prison. (CDC 2005) Summary Statistics. Also mentioned briefly in State of Colorado Laboratory Services Division 2005-2006 Annual Report, page 17, (“The Environmental Microbiology Laboratory recovered Campylobacter from milk samples in the Colorado prison system.”)
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1996 - 2 outbreaks Campylobactor and Salmonella, 48 cases in California.
1997 - 2 outbreaks, 28 cases Salmonella in California.
2000 - 1 outbreak, 98 cases/38 confirmed S. typhimurim in PA and NJ (2000) Olsen, Sonja J.; Ying, Michelle; et al; “Multidrug-resistant Salmonella Typhimurium infection from milk contaminated after pasteurization,”Emerging Infectious Diseases [serial on the Internet], 2004 MAY; available at cdc(dot)gov/ncidod/EID/vol10no5/03-0484(dot)htm, accessed 28-May-2007.
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1995 - Outbreak of Yersinia enterocolitica in 10 children, 3 hospitalized dueto post-pasteurization contamination (1995) New Zealand PDF: nzfsa(dot)govt(dot)nz/ which mentions “10 cases, 3 hospitalised, 1appendectomy. Control measure failure: post pasteurisation contamination.” US reference is Robbins-Browne, R. (1997) Yersinia enterocolitica. InFood Microbiology: fundamentals and frontiers, (Eds) Doyle, M.P., Beuchat, L.R. and Montville, T.D. pp192-215. ASM Press, Washington, D.C.,USA.
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1994 - 224,000 people contracted salmonella infection from Schwan's ice cream according to a report in the New England Journal of Medicine. The pasteurized ice cream premix had been contaminated during transport, leading to an even larger outbreak of salmonella than the one in 1985.
1994 - 3 outbreaks, 105 cases, E. Coli & Listeria in California.
1995 - 1 outbreak, 3 cases in California.
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1993 - 2 outbreaks statewide, 28 cases Salmonella infection.
1993-94 - 1 outbreak, 2014 cases/142 confirmed S. enteritidis due to pasteurized ice cream in MN, SD, WI (1993-1994) Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “Outbreak of Salmonella enteritidis Associated with Nationally Distributed Ice CreamProducts--Minnesota, South Dakota, and Wisconsin, 1994,” Morbidity & Mortality Weekly Report, 1994 OCT 14; 43(40).
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[Ryan CA, Nickels MK, Hargrett-Bean NT, et al. Massive outbreak of antimicrobial-resistant salmonellosis traced to pasteurized milk. JAMA 1987;258:3269-74.] [CDC. Outbreaks of Salmonella enteritidis gastroenteritis -- California, 1993. MMWR 1993; 42:793-7.]
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1985 - 197,000 cases of antimicrobial-resistant Salmonella infections from one dairy in California. Investigation into this case revealed that the same strain of salmonella had repeatedly been contaminating milk after it was pasteurized for at least ten months prior to the outbreak. Up until that time, it was the largest outbreak of salmonella ever identified in the United States.
(References in the next post....)
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1985 - March, 1 outbreak, 16,284 confirmed cases, at same plant in Melrose Park, IL. (1985) Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “Milk-Borne Salmonellosis—Illinois,”Morbidity & Mortality Weekly Report, 1985 APR 12;34 (14):200
cdc(dot)gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/00000520(dot)htm
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1983 - 1 outbreak, 49 cases of listeriosis in Massachusetts. (1983) Fleming, D.W.; Cochi, S.L.; et al; “Pasteurized milk as a vehicle of infection in an outbreak of listeriosis,” New England Journal of Medicine,1985 FEB 14; 312(7):404-407.
1984 - 1 outbreak S. typhimurium, approximately 200 cases, at one plant in Melrose Park, IL.
1984 - November, 1 outbreak S. typhimurium, at same plant in Melrose Park, IL.
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1978 - 1 outbreak, 68 cases in Arizona.
1982 - over 17,000 cases of yersinia enterocolitica from milk produced in Memphis, Tenn.(1982) Segal, Marian; “Invisible villains; tiny microbes are biggest food hazard,” FDA Consumer, JUL-AUG 1988.
1982 - 172 cases, with over 100 hospitalized from a three-Southern-state area.
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1976 - 1 outbreak Y. enterocolitica in 36 children, 16 of whom hadappendectomies, due to pasteurized chocolate milk (1976) Black, R.E.; Jackson, R.J.; et al; “Epidemic Yersinia enterocolitica infection due to contaminated chocolate milk,” New England Journal ofMedicine, January 12, 1978; 298(2):76-79. Milk was purchased in school cafeterias; investigation suggested that the bacterium was introduced at thedairy during the mixing by hand of chocolate syrup with previously pasteurized milk.
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