Jesus is God the Son, NOT God the Father (Part One)

[wilby1414]

We are all part of the Father to some degree. He is the ONLY true life in the universe and He has shared His life with all of us Yet we are already part of Him. One day He will draw us all back into Him when He is ready but that will be many eons from now. This is all for His pleasure and entertainment as He did create both good and evil. He also created many life forms and many levels of creation such as spiritual and physical. We laugh we cry we hurt we love we anger - these are His attributes

[wilby1414]

Jesus is the ONLY one that knows the mind of the Father - Why? Because He was formed by the Father from the Father--they are one and the same--YET different manifistations. When the cloud that lead Isreal out of Egypt came down to comune with Moses-Moses demanded to see God in His full glory and not as a man So God showed Moses, but first God had to cover Moses face with his hand so His brightness would not kill Moses but Moses could see His back parts and the Glory of God. The Son is the Father

[wilby1414]

Phillip said, "show us the Father...

John 14:9

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

There is only one true life in the universe and that is the Father--universes can not contain Him. Out of His bosom He formed the Son and gave life of His own to the Son. Through the Son the Father created all things, said all things (Word). They are ONE & the same.

[TheKingIscomingback]

You did not once show that Jesus and The Father are seperate. You just showed scripture that he was the father. But let me ask you a question "Who makes intercession between God and man....?" And what are you saying that there are three gods.

[hilly777]

Put very well and explained by letting the Bible explain itself. I see that doesn't set too well with some. I wouldn't let it worry me though. The truth is the truth, no matter what people have been taught to believe. Great video.

[prittydeb]

and watch this one be/BzONbC8jlew

[prittydeb]

Watch this I hope this clears father son and holy ghost up for you /watch?v=N03E-fzUieI

[stonewallgregg]

If God never changes, how is it he actually did change into a man and part of him die? IF Jesus did in fact die and was dead for parts of 3 days, then for that period of time, God did not exist in the same manner in which he always existed. We could say that for that time, only a duoinity existed. The trinity makes no rational sense or even scriptural sense. How could God exalt part of himself and give part of himself an even higher position? makes no sense at all

[BCRIBB4real]

jhall38 you are talking about the person of Jesus Christ and God The Father are you curious about it all...

what's up with the koran?

your page is more representative of muhammad and islam than it is about Jesus and Christianity.... are you a new convert?

you think this is a joke?

why are trying to even rebuke a christian on any subject of God and Jesus Christ?

Islam and Christianity do not serve the same God!

we don't believe the same things anyway stop the nonsense

[BCRIBB4real]

ideas?

The church is supposed to focus on sound doctrine jhall38 not ideas

our foundation is built on faith and truth...

ideas and opinions are not!

what is written in the Word of God is rock solid gospel truth!

and i won't compromise it with someone's opinion and no one should

you go and read your bible and let it be your sword against the adversary and his minions not to challenge your fellow brothers in the Lord Jesus Christ!

i can receive correction and rebuke... can you?

[BCRIBB4real]

Okay let's Ask One Of The Lord's Own Disciples Who Seen Him In The Flesh."

Peter! whom do men say that i am? (if anybody know it has to be his own disciples who he himself chose! debunk this testimony!

16Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

tada!

[BCRIBB4real]

you know what i am not here looking to debate in foolish arguments...

the word is complete! it is sound doctrine... what the Lord has said in his word!

is what we have as our foundation. not you futile attempts to debunked others.

if it's written in the word it is clearly explained jhall38!

opinion is not the word... the bible is the word inspired by God himself!

okay who is the lamb of GOD?

first look up! rev 21:22 - God & the Lamb

rev 14:1 again the Lamb and Father appear

rev 3:5 -3:12 OK

[jhall38]

I call on Jesus. I worship Him in EVERY WAY. There is no designation of glory & honor of which He would be unworthy. He is my Creator & Lord. I have no other heavenly Father. Jesus is the First and the Last. I will NEVER call him "God the Son". That is PAGAN! There is no such thing mentioned in scripture. I dare you to try to find ONE TIME that evil idea is spoken. "God the Son" is Greek sophistry. There is nothing in God that is like sonship. That's a quality of humanity. INCARNATION

[jhall38]

Of course the Father and son are distinct. The Father is God. The son was a man in Whom God manifest Himself fully. JESUS IS NOT GOD THE SON. It is not clear "all throughout the Bible", liar. The bible NEVER says "God the Son". It's not there! Jesus is God. There is only ONE PERSON in the Godhead according to Hebrews 1. This means that the eternal Father, the Holy Ghost Who made all things, put Himself in Jesus FULLY. Quit attacking the Incarnation using the false trinity idea.

[jhall38]

The scripture never says "God the Son". Check it out. Jesus is God not because he is the son of God, a man God made. He is not "God the Son". There is no such entity in the Bible. That is a philosophical construct. The only way He could be God is to be our Father, the One God, the Holy Spirit Who made all things. Otherwise, He is not God. If He is not our Father, we should not pray to Him. The man Jesus does not relate to us as a son. He relates to us as our Father, the Holy Ghost.

[jhall38]

Jesus sometimes speaks as a man, the son of God. At other times, he speaks as God, the Father of us all. When he speaks as a man, He makes reference to His Father. This exegete mishandles the scriptures, failing to discern the scriptures when Jesus speaks as a man and distinguishing them from those where He is speaking as God the Father Almighty. This is word play. Plural references to God speaking as "We" are the "royal We". The 1 Biblical reference to God's "person" is singular (Heb. 1).

[clevelandshero23]

Jesus is God but he is not God the Father? lol this doctrine is so screwed up

[BCRIBB4real]

Last Of all... stop straining at a gnat and swallowing camels!

those who worship God must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth!

focus your attention on that fact that Jesus is already come and shall come again!

prepare your self for that day! live a holy sanctified life... repent if you have not already and practice what God has taught us in his Word!

Build your relationship with God and avoid arguments trying to prove others wrong

there is only one God who will condemn or Judge us all...

[jhall38]

@BCRIBB4real While I appreciate your practical call to worship, you should realize that worship does not mean that we must stop discussing the important ideas. You are yourself offering explanations which should be embraced or challenged in the context of discussion. No one gets to pontificate, demanding that others be silent after they've had their say. Let the church discuss the great ideas and not be afraid to consider the seeming contraries. Give your advice. Expect contradiction.

[TheKingIscomingback]

@BCRIBB4real Before you start lashing out on people like they are nothing compared to you try sharing the gospel in LOVE, Spirit and in Truth. But in order to do that you must have love in your heart for all mankind and guess what: GOD = LOVE

[TheKingIscomingback]

@BCRIBB4real Before you start lashing out on people like they are nothing compared to you try sharing the gospel in LOVE, Spirit and in Truth. But in order to do that you must have love in your heart for all mankind and guess what: GOD = LOVE . a question for you who makes intercession between God and man?....

[BCRIBB4real]

furthermore when we read John 3:16 with understanding we see that God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son... right?

The scripture clearly shows us that Jesus was not the father but in fact was sent of the father to die for the sins of the world. God sacrificed his only begotten son!

even Jesus himself declares that iI come not of my own accord but of the Father that sent me. have you not read people here are three that bare record in heaven? The Father, The Son, & Holy Ghost!

[jhall38]

@BCRIBB4real The three that bear record in heaven are not as you say. Read the scripture again.

[BCRIBB4real]

For This I have to take all of you back to genesis and creation it couldn't be more plain!

and God said... Let Us Make man in Our image! okay who was God speaking with the angels? no! man is made in the image of God not the angels! so who was God referring to when making that statement _ Let Us make man in Our image (likeness) do you not know that Jesus says that i am the alpha (beginning) it's very clear! Jesus was always there with the Father! as Jesus the Son from the beginning!

[jhall38]

@BCRIBB4real There is a better explanation of this "let us" passage. The OT is set in the context of ancient culture in which the divine suzerain would refer to himself in the plural. The Hebrew word for God itself is sometimes plural, "Elohim", which literally means "Gods", but is used to speak of God's majesty. When God says "Let us", it is a way of referencing majesty. The Queen of England observes this "royal we", referring to herself in the plural. There is ONE PERSON. (Hebrews 1)

[jhall38]

@BCRIBB4real Jesus was "with" God because He WAS God. Isaiah interprets Genesis for us. Isaiah says that NO ONE was with God when He made everything. If you want to know what "with" means, see John 1 and let it do the speaking while you are silent. "The Word was WITH God. The Word WAS God." Jesus can be said to be "with" God not in any way separate from God in any sense. He WAS God. That is what "with" means in this context. NOT a separate person. There is 1 person (Heb. 1), no more.

[celioabatti]

Jesus Is Not the Father, But is Deity

Both the Jehovah’s Witnesses (who deny the deity of Christ) and the United Pentecostals (also known as “Apostolics” or “Jesus Only”), United Pentecostals will argue that the Father and Son are the same person. Much doctrinal confusion, to say the least, has been created by these groups and their teachings.

Two Separate Persons—Plurality

[Charlamane100]

Thank you for this video. It certainly clarifies things. I appreciate your research, and it all made sense.

[BCRIBB4real]

I don't know how people get so twisted on this... let us even go back to this!

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image after our likeness…

of whom did you think God was talking to the angels?

No, but man was made in the image of God the father and his son Jesus

Jesus also says i was sent of the father not I was the father who became the son

who is God in the flesh. Jesus says I am the alpha which means beginning, being there from the beginning... look at the genesis creation!

[RONIDC1979]

JESUS WAS THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY. STOP LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO USE ONE OR TWO SCRIPTURES TO PROVE THEIR POINT . READ THE BOOK

[Thia911]

If people would read the Old testament and focus on God's covenant relationship with Israel right into the New testament, they'd see so clearly that Jesus indeed is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is NOT a second person of a god hierarchy, He is the ONE true God of the O.T. He is Yahweh. Hear O Israel the LORD our God is ONE LORD. The one LORD is none other then the one God. Even Paul in 1 cor. 8 says that Jesus is the ONE LORD and He is the ONE GOD!

[rYzHrV62H]

3---Notice -[ and his name shall be called]- implying that the titles of -[Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father,]- don't apply in our present age but in the coming age. Even though Jesus has been glorified by his father by receiving immortality and lives forever never to die again.

[rYzHrV62H]

2---and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.{Second part of this prophecy has not yet been fulfilled in this passage}.

[rYzHrV62H]

1---Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:{First part of this prophecy has been fulfilled in this passage}

[MrRocko99]

one god one truth one pep amen

[MrRocko99]

this vid is telling the truth fav thinks

[JesusIsLordUrGOd]

Jesus is the father in the flesh.... Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

[Repenttrust]

Watch the vid

[lizazoon]

@JesusIsLordUrGOd It`s all wonderful fantasy.!!

[OurGr8God]

GOD BLESS YOU ALL

[draytan]

very well put, all christians seem to put all the bible quotations you mentioned behind their backs.

[RinnEgade]

The comment of "He is not is own father" is in error & deceptive. It's that God the Father became his own Son: 1 Tim 3:16. The Father was in Christ not "another person" of God. There's only 1 God, the Father: 1 Cor 8:6. God the Father was in Christ. Never is it stated that the "Son was in Christ". He's the Everlasting Father not the "Eternal Son" or "God the Son" which is not scriptural terms.

[maycor1076]

Jesus is the son of God. What would you call him if he were to be here?? lord, god,son of God?? I would not call him just Jesus I would call him my Lord, my God because to me that would be only correct. By calling him my God I recognize he is the son of GOD or what other name would you give him afterall he is the son of GOD. There's only one GOD and Jesus is his Son. People seem to be confused when they see the wod God they think isthe same person but they are both in the same category.

[MrRocko99]

amen

[gypsytellingthetruth]

show 1 verse tat it calls Jesus God the Son and i would agree.show me a verse were it calls Jesus the Son of God ? to many to list. it never says God the Son always Son of God it never says the eternal Son. always the Son of the eternal God.or the begottin Son.

[SuperJane99]

Thank you SO much for this excellent teaching. WHEN oh WHEN are Christians going to used their brains. Thank you again. Praise the Lord who surely is well pleased with you.

[MrRocko99]

amen iv been telling people for years but lol few will read all of the bible

[remix01]

Who said that he has to be his own father? He is our father.

[OnenessGodhead]

Oneness does not teach that the Son is the Father.

"God the Son" is not a Biblical term.

Oneness teaches that the Son died on the cross and not the Father.

[NoneBeforeNoneAfter]

You can argue against man but not against Gods word. Com see what God said in his Word .

I CHALLENGE YOU.

Watch my promo video.

[Jaysen1976]

The opposing arguement for JESUS prayer is that GOD THE SON prayed to GOD THE FATHER, I do not believe this, I believe THE SON OF GOD prayed to GOD THE FATHER, the MAN prayed to GOD,.. but for me to believe that one PERSON or part of GOD can pray to another person or part of God and still maintain the claim of monothiesm is not acceptable to me. God praying to GOD is ODD,, =)

[tahir1alkaroury]

jesus is not god

jesus is not god

jesus is not god

1 one Moese when he was sent to the igorents he said "oh people of israel wership god god alone now moese didnt say worship god and his son ther for that jesus is not freaking god

you belive that we all the childern of god sweet whats maria to god u stupid that his child too so if that was true ur telling me god the beloved would do that to his child now ur lost am explain some more in the next comment

[tahir1alkaroury]

ok now we now god is never born jesus was!!

ok now what is going on!!

i lll tell u whats going on god is the power if he said be its going that was a mircle dear you a mircle ther for to show that god is there did maria said oh people of israel when they told her that u came with the shame to us did she say i have the son of god wow stupid people makein thing up.

now u can call me stupid or whatever but i will never belive that jesus is god a proghet yes not god though get it bye

[frankkidd1967]

The name of the Father is Jesus- Jesus said " I have come in my Father's name".

Do you think it is a Coincidence that Jehovah is not mentioned at all in the new testament- Because His name now is Jesus-

Here is what I think of Trinity- "Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast" 6 6 6, it says count the number (singular), that number is 6, if you count that number you come up with three- What is the most preached doctrine in the US today- Trinity which is Three-

[0341dog]

Despite the pagan attempts to replace him, Yahweh is the one true God! The only place where 1=3 and 3=1 is in replacement theology!

[Romanian97]

Jesus is God , please live by the spirit not your own human understanding God bless you

[ratchetsippi]

hes the image of God

[YashuaisGD]

@Romanian97 Do you mean He is God because He has been beggoten by God or He is the father He is The begotten Son

[Romanian97]

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

[ratchetsippi]

misstranslated version

[romeshouse]

You said it right a clear teaching of God's indenty.

[0341dog]

Yahweh was before Jesus and the Holy Spirit wasn't he?

[Repenttrust]

Yahweh is a pronunciation for the name of the one true God. Jesus is God and eternal. The Holy Spirit is God and eternal.

[ratchetsippi]

so God can die?

[BlessedTrinityOfGod]

I Will Pray for you, Love the Lord your God with all your heart. Proverbs 3:5-6- lean not on thy own understanding, in all thy Ways Acknowledge him. Praise God who is ABOVE ALL AND THROUGH ALL. He know more than us.

[Repenttrust]

Thank you and God Bless you

[BlessedTrinityOfGod]

Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty.

The Word Holy:Definition:To Seperate.

There is not just one Holy But Three Holies in perfect Triunity makeing the One True God of the Bible.

[BlessedTrinityOfGod]

Proverbs 30:4-6&8 Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the winds in his fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? "What is his name, "and", what is his sons name? !Surely you know! Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his word, lest he rebuke you and you be found a lier. And down to verse 8 no falsehood.

[BlessedTrinityOfGod]

1 Peter 1:3- Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ

[BlessedTrinityOfGod]

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Peter 1:2

[YourConscienceAgain]

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given...and his name shall be called...The everlasting Father."

The Son was the Father also.

[bulovawatches]

Anybody who seek to 'explain' the Godhead is certainly in error. God is "kadosh, kadosh, kadosh". He is totally other-than anything we can conceive or even imagine. Modalism seeks to 'exlain' the Godhead rather than revere the mystery of God. It appeals to the Greek mind. The Hebrew mind maintains the tension. God is "echad" God, but He is not "yachid" in person. One being, not one person. Again, I hate to use the word "person" because of what it denotes in English. Oneness God is schitzo.

[mwjerkins]

I noticed on your channel homepage u label yourself as monotheisic.Please change that to Polytheistic as that is what u are.You believe there are three seperate distinct persons who are God.God the Father,God the Son(unscriptural term),and God the Holy Ghost(unscriptural term).This is a belief in three Gods no matter how u want to slice it,or state.If it walks like a duck,and quacks like a duck,it's a duck my friend.I know u will say u believe in one God,but you've shown otherwise.Quack,Quack!!

[tiger2380]

This is when the Jews said that Jesus is equal to God. People is thinking like the Jews.

John 5:18-19"For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

Jesus gave them this answer: I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does."

Did Jesus said they are right? No!

[ApostolicGodsChild]

First off, Jesus never told anyone that he was God but only spoke in parables.

[Repenttrust]

Yeah, He did. Note Exodus 3:14 with

"Jesus said to them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.'" -John 8:58

[ApostolicGodsChild]

No, what i was saying was that, he never said that he was God DIRECTLY in the gospels but he did in the book of Revelation which hasn't been fulfilled yet.

[Glorthac]

Are you implying that Jesus will become God upon fulfilment of Revelation?

[synodofdort]

when talking of Jesus John said he was God in John 1

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Amen, he is God but not a seperate person. Do you know the definition of "the word" in the Old Testament?

[freedomalert]

When Jesus was baptized the Holy Spirit came down and the Father spoke from heaven. Unless Jesus was a ventriloquist and a magician, God is three persons but one God.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Show me where, You forget that God is omnipresent and is everywhere, not secluded to one spot (Psalms 139:8). You sound as if God isn't omnipresent. Also, isn't God the Father Holy (Jos 24:19) and isn't he Spirit (John 4:24)? What does that tell you, Unless you believe in two spirits. Matt 3:16 can be explained easily. Want to see?

[freedomalert]

Show you where? I thought you were reading your Bible, ok. Luke 3:22 and Luke 9:35 and Mark 9:7 and Mark 12:36 and Matthew 17:5 and Isaiah 42:1 and Genesis 1:26 (notice the plural)and Genesis 3:22 (notice the plural)and Psalm 2:12 and Acts 13:33 and Acts 1:5 and 1John5:7 (if you read it in a Bible without copyrights.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Again, i will ask you, show me where. None of the scriptures provided speak of any Trinity, that is only your assumption. Get into the context of the bible, not mans tradition. Trinitarians take a few scriptures and come up with a doctrine without reading the context of THE WHOLE bible about who God is. Foolishness. I know all Trinitarian arguments and the scriptures they claim speak of a Trinity. Foolishness

[bulovawatches]

All the arguments that the Father was the Son and the Father at the same time is foolishness. Again, show me the scripture that says this. Show me how God is in the "Father" mode in creation, the "Son" mode in redemption and the "Holy Ghost" mode in regeneration. I'll show you Father, Son, and Holy Ghost simultaneously from scripture. Modes don't love each other. Modalism says 1x1x1=1 so everyone goes "aha!" They say we say 1+1+1=1 and go "see they can't count". They 'explaining' the Godhead.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Is God being the first and last, beginning and end, alpha and omega, lion and lamb foolishness to you?

[bulovawatches]

There is only one Spirit (not three) as indicted in Eph. 4:4-5. The phrase one Spirit is, however, in a context in which other entities (such as the body, the faith, etc.) are one (cf. John 17:22). Thus, the one Spirit does not indicate one Person as the modalists assume, see also the same phrase in I Corinthians 6:17. So, nothing in Eph. 4:4-5 limits one Spirit to one Person. The oneness of the Spirit should not be confused with oneness of person.

[tiger2380]

Jesus didn't meant that he was God when he said, "I AM." "'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham WAS(past tense), I AM(present tense).'" Jesus was talking in the past and then he use a present tense form. Therefore he was talking about God. If Jesus said, "There was I or I was" then he would have talking about himself..

[Lachance8]

tiger2380, Great point!

[freedomalert]

Jesus said I Am because he has always been. He has always being there, he could have said I was, but then he will put his existence in a time frame. He was saying he is God.

[synodofdort]

Jesus is not the father becase he tells us he is going to be with the father and in John 17 Jesus prays to his father.

[tiger2380]

agree

[25met4]

Philip said unto Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it will be enough for us." Jesus said unto him, "Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known me, Philip? He that has seen me has seen the Father; and how say you then, Show us the Father?" (Jn 14:8-9). Philip was with the Father since Jesus was with him.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Amen to that

[Repenttrust]

You left out verse 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. -John 14:10 Jesus said I speak not of myself

[25met4]

Why does it matter? Jesus was with Philip and when Philip wanted to see the Father then Jesus asked him, "Have I been so long time with you?" Jesus confirmed that He was the Godhead in bodily form (Col 2:9-10). The Godhead is the Father, is it not? Jesus did speak the words of the Father and so did the Father speak the words of the Son. How can the Son not be the Father if they are both unified as the one and only true God?

[synodofdort]

Amen Jesus is God the Son not God the Father

[ApostolicGodsChild]

You really need to study more

[synodofdort]

I can say the same to you. I know you penecostals are all right, but if you decide to drop the pride you may be able to learn

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Same goes for you bro. I see some pride in both of our speech and thats something we need to work on. We both don't know everything.

[synodofdort]

I can agree with that God bless you AGC

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Amen, God bless you too and sorry for the pride outburst, O wreched man that i am, who can deliever me from this body of death. (Paul The Apostle)

[ApostolicGodsChild]

I wonder who gave me two thumbs down, lol

[uboyny]

Jesus is the true God when he said i am the way the truth and the life. 1st john 5:7 And we know that the Son of God has come, and He has given to us an understanding that we may know the true One, and we are in the true One, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and the life everlasting ... There is one God and Father of all, who is over all and in all and through all. Ephesians 4:6

[tiger2380]

You said that but Jesus himself said this, Jhn 17:3 "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." I rather believe Jesus than man.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Amen, id rather to. I love this scripture because God the Father is the only true God.

[tiger2380]

So why people say, Jesus is the true God? They worship the middle man instead the Highest man. I worship the Highest man. The only true God.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Do you not know that when you acknowledge Jesus, you are acknowledging the Father as well? I say Jesus is God because God came in the flesh (1 Tim 3:16), not a Trinity but God himself

[tiger2380]

That's because God live within Jesus. Everything Jesus did wasn't from himself, but from God. Every words Jesus spoke wasn't from him, but from God. When we acknowledge Jesus' work, we can say we acknowledge God's work.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Yes, you are correct yet you ignore the many scripture which calls Jesus God such as John 14:7-9. Do you believe that if someone asks you to show them the Father that you can say "Have not i been with you so long and you don't know me?", Can you say this?

[tiger2380]

If you read on further, John 14:10"Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father who lives in me does his works."

It doesn't mean that Jesus is God, it's saying that God did all things through Jesus. Jesus was talking about his work. Jesus did nothing on his own will, but God's will.

John 14:11"Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me; or else believe me for the very works' sake."

[ApostolicGodsChild]

You still didn't answer my question, can YOU say "Have not i been with you so long and you don't know me?" Also im not finished, Read John 8:19-24 which is speaking about the Father.

[tiger2380]

I did answer your question. I said it as a reply. Jesus was talking about his work and the things he spoke. Ok, let me explain John 8:19-24. You didn't go further enough. John 8:26I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world. This is when Jesus talking about the Father. Throughout Jesus life, he claiming to be the Son of the Living God and Son of Man.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

I don't think you understand what John 8 is saying and i would explain it but we are limited in our response here. Ok since you don't get it then i will go into other scripture. What do you say about Rev 1:7-8 which calls Jesus "The Almighty"? Curious of what your answer would be.

[tiger2380]

Ok. He was talking about God. Read Rev 1:4"..Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits BEFORE HIS THRONE," Now, Rev 4:2-5"Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God." Now, read Rev 1:8I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty. God was sitting on the throne while Jesus standing by John. If Jesus is God, who was sitting on the throne?

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Ok, you lost me in th beginning but i understood you at the end. You made a big mistake and i will show you how. First of all, Jesus is the one sitting on the throne for the throne of God is the heavens and the earth his footstool(Isa 66:1). Do you dare to challenge me and say that Jesus isn't on the throne?

[tiger2380]

I accept your challenge. Read Rev 1:17"When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last." It said that John fell at his feet and Jesus place his hand on him, therefore Jesus was standing by John. How could Jesus be sitting on the throne while he was placing his hand on John? God was sitting on the throne, not Jesus. Are you going to challenge me that God wasn't sitting on the throne?

[ApostolicGodsChild]

LOL, if i believe that Jesus is God then why would i say that God wasn't on the throne? Ok, Jesus is first speaking to John ON EARTH in Rev 1:10-Rev 3:22, after this John was in the Spirit and went up to heaven Rev 4:1 and saw a throne in Rev 4:2. He WASN'T with Jesus no more. Jesus speaks about his throne in and the 12 apostles thrones beside his (Mat 19:28, Mat 25:31, Luk 1:32, Hbr 1:8), Rev 4:2-4 is the fulfillment. Make sure you read the scriptures provided. You can't deny that its Christ.

[tiger2380]

OK, now you have lost me. You said, "First of all, Jesus is the one sitting on the throne." While Jesus was speaking to John on earth, Heaven open and a voice said come up here, then John was in spirit. Which mean that John left Jesus standing there on earth.

I never said that Jesus don't have a throne. Jesus have a throne on the right side of the Father. Also, there wasn't 12 throne surrounding the throne it was 24. Rev 4:4"Around the throne {were} twenty-four thrones;" Read it carefully.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

LOL, no, read what i said again. Jesus wasn't sitting on this throne while speaking to John at first, then when John was in the spirit, he beheld someone sitting on the throne in HEAVEN. Jesus wasn't with him or speaking to him anymore. Also Jesus was telling the 12apostles that they will be sitting with him on thrones. Are you saying that there weren't 24 thones around Jesus? If so, read it again.

[tiger2380]

Also, have you ever heard someone tell a boy that he look just like his father or he act just like his father? If that boy only do what his father tell him, nothing more or less, and say only what his father tell him to say, people can say that they are looking at the boy's father. But, does that make that boy the father? Of course not! Same way about Jesus. Jesus did nothing more what God tell him to do.

[uboyny]

no Jesus is not his own Father oness do not believe in that. God Fatherd the flesh God said today i have begotin a Son if the Son was there before he was born why did God say today he has begotin a Son and not in the begining? 2nd the bible never says God the Son always Son of God it never says God the Spirit always The Spirit Of God or Christ. it never says the eternal Son it says the Son of the Eternal God. how did God become Jesus read 1st tim 3:16 God in the flesh.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Amen, concerning the relationship, Jesus is not the Father but concerning his deity, he is God our Father in the flesh.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

This video is about to be refuted by my playlist that im currently in the process of making.

[Repenttrust]

You cant refute the Bible and thats what almost all this video is.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

True, i can't refute scripture and neither am i trying to but i can refute interpretation and fallable context. My playlist will bring much things to light and will show how a Trinity is impossible. Heares an example, you say God is three seperate persons but Job 13:8 says "will you accept his person", there is no "s". Also if you say this refers to one person in the trinity because of "EL", it is easily refuted.

[Repenttrust]

You said-Heares an example, you say God is three seperate persons

When did I say that? I believe and proclaim what the Bible says, that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. There is only one true God. The Father is Not the Son, the Son is Not the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is Not the Father.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Sorry, i should have been more specific. What i meant was, your doctrine says that God is three persons. You don't see the problem, One mistake many make is by proclaiming that "The Father is God", it should be "God is the Father". I will show this in my playlist. Question: Since Jesus created us then isn't he our Father? Careful how you answer because scripture stands, in which i will give you.

[Repenttrust]

AGC- God created Lucifer, yet Jesus isnt his father.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

??? I don't understand your argument. Jesus is the Father of all his creation.

[Repenttrust]

You said- "but Job 13:8 says will you accept his person, there is no s". That was Job talking, not God, that was the kjv not the Hebrew (note also NKJV, NASB, NIV, Amplified, none use the word person in that verse). Please, read Johns Gospel .

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Firstly bro, the Hebrew word is "paniym" which also means "person". So when the NASB says "Him", is it talking about three person or one person? Either way you put it bro, it stands that this scripture speaks of ONE person.

[Repenttrust]

Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. -1 John 2:3 Did you watch all of both parts of the above video? I tell you in truth and love; modalism is a damning heresy. I urge you and all to turn from it.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Bro, all i can say is that, Jesus as well as the apostles were considered heretics by the majority and were killed for it but did that mean that they were? Of course not, You will see how fallible your doctrine is according to scripture. I have not watched part 2 but i will. I love you bro and am only speaking to you out of love for you are my brother. Come, let us reason.

[Repenttrust]

Many Christians use the words "God in three Persons" as a shorter way of saying something like the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. There is only one true God. The Father is Not the Son, the Son is Not the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is Not the Father. The God of the Bible is infinite.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

The God of the bible is one person, not three. Without understanding the God of the OT, you will come to false conclusions of who the God of the OT is. I have found that many Trinitarians would rather run to the NT to prove there Trinity. Have you answered my question on my other video?

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Im not boasting or arguing but its quite easy to refute the Trinity. Can you answer my question in my video "A Question Trinitarians Won't Answer Honestly"? Please, so far no Trinitarian has attempted to answer.

[Repenttrust]

Yes, I believe in one true God. Jesus is not the Father, but He is the same God as the Father. Jesus is One with the Father. There is only one true God.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

You have not answered the question but instead went back to your doctrinal views. If you asked Jesus who was the only true God, who would you think he would say, The Trintiy or God the Father?

[al147316]

jesus said i am the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the father except through me john 14:6

[tiger2380]

Agree but does that make him God?

[tiger2380]

For one Jesus is not God or part of God. God is one not three. When Jesus was baptize, heaven open and there was a voice that said, this is my only Begotten son. Begotten mean choosen one or born my a woman. According to Job, God has more than one son in heaven. Jesus was one of them. God chose Jesus to come down and died for our sin.

The reason why Jesus consider the Word because God was speaking to us through him. Jesus said, I know nothing but what my God tell me.

[Repenttrust]

According to the Bible Jesus is God the Son. Note the verses in the video. Note also part two of this video in which the verses that record Jesus's baptism are sited. The Father said "This is my beloved Son," not "only begotten." However, just as Isaac was called Abraham's "only begotten son" in Hebrews 11 verse 7 which refers to his uniqueness as Abraham's son, so too Jesus is the only begotten son of the Father.

[synodofdort]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Jesus could not be apart from God because he is a part of God. If you look back at the baptism of Jesus God the Father said" This is my beloved son in which I am well pleased" The sons in Job you speak of are angels.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

I and my father are one.

[tiger2380]

Why is everyone use the same line "I and my Father are one" and they don't know what it mean. Jesus didn't mean that he and God is one in body but one in perfect UNITY!! Later one Jesus said, "You don't have to believe that I'm in the Father and the Father is in me, just believe my WORK" Jesus also said that, he is nothing without the Father. So that mean everything Jesus did, say, etc wasn't from him but from God. Jesus said the one who send me does the work. Do you know what unity mean?

[ApostolicGodsChild]

tiger, you mistake me for an unlearned person. of course i know what unity means.

[tiger2380]

Well when Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" why you thought he talking about body?

[synodofdort]

Jesus is nothing without the Father because God in fullness is Father Son and Spirit. They all are God. If he is not God expl. John 1:2?

[tiger2380]

One word, WHAT?!!?? "God the Father said" This is my beloved son in which I am well pleased"" What's your point? "in which" mean the person. Jesus is not part of God's body. He is one with God in perfect Unity. Read the bible and understand it.

[synodofdort]

It was several answers to your unbiblical statements. Jesus is not part of Gods body, I did not say that. He Is part of the God head. The second person in the trinity. There are three persons in the God of one.

[tiger2380]

Where did Jesus said that? Trust in Jesus' words not man. They all work in perfect unity.

[synodofdort]

All of the gospels show that this is biblical truth. John 1:1 In the begining was the word(Jesus) How do we know this? vs 14 the word became flesh. Jesus is creator john 1:2

[synodofdort]

Tiger are you a JW?

[tiger2380]

No. I'm not a JW. I'm a Christian. A non-trinity Christian.

[ApostolicGodsChild]

Which is a man made doctrine and isn't biblical.