HELL YEAH!!! My favorite band the amazing Cradle of Filth! with the awesome Christian Death! (oh yeah of course this is my favorite christian death song) :D
I love both bands but Cradle is my all time and the best! oh yeah, Dani's vocals is perfect in this song! PEEK A BOO!!!!
I don't like Christian Death without Valor, it's just like if another band ripped the name off and called it their own. I love Christian Death without the suck of Rozz.
Just refer to Cradle as Extreme Metal. It's much easier than trying to define every little bit of them because they aren't really any single genre. But on the topic of Black metal, that's stuff like Immortal and Rotting Christ.
you people are stupid as fuck and know shit of music. cradle of filth is not black metal or has ever been. black metal was an influence to there music. they are extreme gothic metal.
Black Metal and Deathrock are different scenes, their have some lyrical similarities and their both kickass!!! Other topics to black metal are death/thrash and other topics to deathrock are horror punk/goth.
I don't know why everyone talks so much shit about them. Cradle is my favorite band, & they've always been an extreme metal band. So they're not "black metal posers". Christian Death is lucky to have played with Cradle,for all the idiots who know nothing about Cradle of Filth & still talk shit; Cradle of Filth is the most recognized band to ever come out of England since Iron Maiden. So take all the shit talking that's coming out of your mouths & shove it up your asses where it belongs.
I would just like 2 say Fuck all the poser ass Cradle of filth haters on this page they oviously don't know any good talent when they here it well thats y cradle is so successful in what they do so u guyz r failed posers that don't know anything but just just lable things and not 2 mentention talkin out ur asses
@XDarkMoleX it's really nice you don't like violence.. i don't assume you're weak, i really don't care... As matter a fact, you assumed i'm poser so i don't see what's your point in that big talk ...
@XDarkMoleX that's not an assumption ... that's a fact... there is really really few true fans of the band, mos of them are posers who like dressing black, putting makeup and black nails.... and Dani or whatever... that's how they are famous... most of them don't even appreciate music they listen... that's what i said...
@XDarkMoleX Valor suck mad dick and Dani actually has more talent than than washed escuse for a Death Rock band Christian Death. That band died as so Rozz left! And you can say COF is poser for being famous but you guys don't play your music for everyone because you know that it's a fucking joke. No one can actually take that shit seriously why Christian Death don't just pack it up it's dead?
@666deathghost The band didn't "Die". Just because you don't like Valor does not make the band "dead" and on another note, you're the fucking poser here. You only listen to stuff that isn't popular? You're fucking conforming, Choke on your own blood, and gtfo of videos you don't like okay? Troll.
Also, please refrain from posting on the internet untill you have atleast some logic equivalent to a monkey or more.
@XDarkMoleX Hey pussy south park goth boy. Lol Conforming???????? Roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!! "I not going to a third world country with rest of the conformist". I swear you guys are fucking poseurs you guys just steady trying to be down with the older goths cause you got tired of being called baby bats so you started getting into earlier Post-Punk and bands like Bauhaus, Sister of Mercy, Joy Division, The Cure etc just to be "True Goths! Oooooooooo "true goths" more like fan boys if you ask me.
I can't believe what Christian Death reduced themselves to. I mean, playing with COF? seriously... Christian Death used to be an amazing deathrock band, and to hear them play with a bunch of black metal poseurs is sad. Rozz would be dissapointed :/
@ZombieNarcotic Christian Death died a long time ago why try to keep this dead genre going? Goth is DEAD! You guy can never bring back the Batcave because teenagers won't listen to that shit. With all do respect lets face it Post Punk is dead Goth is Dead including Death Rock. But Cradle is not so who won here?
@666deathghost You couldn't be more wrong. Yes, the goth scene can never be the same as it was in the 80's, thanks to the media and whatnot. However, it's not dead, it just went back underground, which is where it belongs in the first place. The are SO MANY new deathrock bands today, that tour and play in European goth festivals. Metal is more mainstream than goth, and we like it that way.
@ZombieNarcotic Yeah ya'll don't even have unity between the scene no more instead blame the kid. Ya'll even blame them, Marilyn Manson, H.I.M , emos, INDUSTRIAL? WTF!??How Industrial and EBM is the blame for this? Plus Ya'll even course Metal for the scene fucking up. Then the kids of the scene argue and troll on Goth or Industrial music videos on youtube about what is goth and what is not. Seriously how is it that the one word Gothic causes so muck confusion tell me?
@666deathghost I don't blame kids for ruining the scene. I'm only 19 yet know more about goth than a lot of old schoolers. And I quite like REAL industrial music. The only problem I have with EBM, is that "goth" club promoters overplay generic EBM with NO goth, simply to make more money off of the indutrial scene. I'm glad the real goth scene is becoming underground, but goth should STAY goth, and not become something it's not just because some uneducated poseurs wish to use the term incorrectly
@ZombieNarcotic Goth is Mainstream 2 but most Mainstream Metal is good i'll have to give them that but the Metal scene is so big and I'm not talk Media wise I'm talking as a hold. There's so much sub-genres of Metal that if you're trying to kill it you will ail epicly (with all do respect) But they don't have a big problem with in the scene like most other genres do. Each sub-genre of Metal just continue to rapidly grom secretely and not so secretely.
@666deathghost It's funny how you say goth is dead, then turn around and say that it's mainstream. It isn't dead, it just went underground. And as for it being mainstream: well, I've never heard Bauhaus or Clan of Xymox get played on the radio or TV. I never see goth events being advertized in a mainstream setting. You only see goth being sold as nothing but a meer fashion trend, to make money off it, yet the core of the culture remains untouched by the media. Therefore it's still underground.
@ZombieNarcotic In mainsteam population it's dead to and plus people keep mistaking goths for emos (OMFG I HATE THEM FUCKING PARASITES) Sometimes I wsh Exterminating them pest was legal I have some partners that would like to set alot of them on fire in front of the camra and post it on a random made Youtube acount and show that scene what we think of them. But one can only dream, but back to the subject, If those damn emos gets there hands on them bands it will not be so secrete any more.
@XDarkMoleX hahaha First of all, it's spelled "poseur", you poseur :p
And second, I'm more goth than you'll ever be. Unlike you, I actually listen to Rozz's music, as well as other REAL goth bands, unlike you.
After viewing your profile, it's quite obvious that you're just some mallcore metalhead who will turn "normal" in the next year or so. Go back to Hot Topic *eyeroll*
@ZombieNarcotic First of all, a true goth would listen to whatever the hell he or she wants to. A True Goth will NOT CONFORM and listen to "goth music" just to appear gothic. Second of all i like both Christian Death (Rozz AND Valor) and Cradle of filth.
Grow up, and stop thinking that everything you assume is true <- Such a childish way of thinking.
@XDarkMoleX So you think you're goth, just because you say you are? What if someone who listens to nothing but pop came up to you and said they were goth? Well, you'd probably call them a poseur. Same goes with people who listen to metal. If you'd actually do your research on the history of goth (which you obviously didn't), you'd see that the goth subculture as a whole revolves around the music.
You've never been to HT? Well you'd probably meet a lot of people whom you can relate to ;)
@XDarkMoleX haha when people say "I'm not goth, I'm just me", it usually translates into "I'll pretend to be goth, but claim to not identify as such, to avoid being called a poseur". And also, I AM goth, so why should I take some metalhead seriously, when they pretend to know about goth. I don't care how much research you've done. I've not only researched for 7 years, but experienced the scene FIRST HAND, and met real goths that have been around in the 80s, who would get a laugh out of you.
@ZombieNarcotic Your a fucking Goth fan boy u more poseur than anyone here. You follow certain steps to fit into that not so great scene. Yeah they should just let that whole scene fall slowly apart so nobody have to here you wannabes cry about how great your scene is and how we're poseurs cause you spend you pathetic life trolling to kids on what goth is. Your scene will continue to be this way until it really finally dies.
@666deathghost I just love how angry you're getting. All I'm doing is defending the subculture which I'm apart of. And seriously, do you even KNOW what a poseur is? Obviously not. Learn how to spell, then stick with your numetal and shit, the goth scene doesn't need you. No one can choose what they like and dislike. I just so happen to enjoy goth rock, as well as the literature, fashion, etc. I'm not "following steps". Old school deathrockers are the only thing keeping the culture alive.
@ZombieNarcotic Look I don't listen to Nu Metal and your sub culture seems like it's full of wannabe goth kids that think spending they're whole life gathering information about a scene to make you feel more "Goth" I don't care how much you say u listen to Old School Death Rock or Post Punk Goth Rock or what ever, by the way u think you still a poseur. I remember someone on a Garden of Delight video saying that he has been into the scene for 15 years and he said listen to what u lke and do u.
@666deathghost The deathrock scene is the only authentic form of "goth" nowadays. Go ahead, listen to what you want, but when you take metal and label it as goth, it doesn't make you goth. I don't just sit around and gather info, I've actually been to goth clubs/events/shops all over the place (LA/New York/Phoenix/DC/etc.) and experienced the scene first hand. Goth is goth, metal is metal, punk is punk. You either naturally fit into a scene or you don't, we're just keeping out who don't belong
@ZombieNarcotic Dude why are you telling me this? I have a hard time getting fucking ppl to realize that shit.
i'm a fucking Metal head not a goth just like some post punk goth rock dark wave death rock, matter u know what fuck it i'm into anything I like. Fuck a labels I don't care what they say. I will enjoying my music and call it a day.
@ZombieNarcotic Goths don't usually tend on pointless internet fights, also their not assholes, which you clearly are.
One main thing about a True goth is, they won't care to conform with a sterotyped title such as goth. You and you're friends on the other hand seem to love conforming in this stupidity.
A Goth does not give one shit on what others think about him or whether they call him a Poser,chav,goth or metalhead
Now obviously there is more to goth then that, but character limit.
@XDarkMoleX Well actually, YOU'RE the one who started this "internet fight" by saying "you're a poser", being as the "nongoth" you described.
A true goth would naturally fit into the culture. They don't TRY to listen to the music, but naturally enjoy it
You cant just say "I'm goth cause I say I am"
Stop being such a hypocrite by saying "a true goff would do this and that" then say "I dont use steriotypes". If you don't want to be steriotyped, do us a favor and stay out of the goth scene.
@ZombieNarcotic Erm, once again, I never said i'm a goth, why do you keep telling yourself that? Are you stupid? Seriously are you stupid?
Secondly, only a poser would be insulted if he or she is called a poser.
Why would a true goth be insulted if he is called something he/she is not? It seems to me that you were insulted because, well the truth hurts, does it not?
Lastly, Ironicly I said a goth would do what he or she wants, NOT "would do this and that" as your BullShit quotes say. Ass.
@XDarkMoleX I never said you were goth, I simply said "stay out of the goth scene", because you seem to think you know everything about it when you don't.
I'm not offended, I'm standing up for myself. There's a difference. My logic is obviously greater than yours, and I shouldn't have to sit around while some metalhead tries to tell what goth is and isn't, to someone who actually IS goth. I hope you die in a moshpit sometime in the next year, cause you'll probably turn "normal" soon anyway :p
@ZombieNarcotic Can you 2 seriously stop argueing? I don't identify with goth, but it's pretty obvious that DarkMole is just trolling, seeing as he thinks constant contradictions and childish namecalling are valid forms of arguments. Just let things go, and (as you said) he'll probably grow out of his little phase pretty soon.
@ZombieNarcotic I'll just say this, why would you insult a different group? If your truely a goth, why in the hells do you have to insult CoF fans and CoF themselfs? it was to my understanding that goths love dark art in every form, from music to literature, why would you INSULT an aspect of this dark art, eaven if so you don't like it there is no need for this bullshit.
THAT is my true reason for calling you a poser. Which you blindly ignored.
@XDarkMoleX Just because somethings "dark" doesn't mean it's accepted in the goth subculture. A lot of metal is dark, but it's aggresive and lacks the suspense/melodrama of goth.
Goth isn't synonomous with "anything and everything dark"
I don't go around insulting videos of COF, nor do I even care about them. I was just expressing my opinion that Christian Death used to be a good band, but now sound totally different for the worse imo (they could've at least changed the name :/...)
@ZombieNarcotic *Sigh* ANYTHING which can be considered dark art, IS Goth in my opinion, now if you want to ONLY go for what the "goth" community says is goth, then you're truely a conformist poser. Sorry.
Also this video is half CoF and you insulted them, just read that comment. Your knowlegde about CoF is nothing, and you go around insulting them JUST because you don't like them. Pathetic.
@XDarkMoleX Well, you're not goth, so you wouldn't know what goth really is. For example, if Lady Gaga makes a "dark" music video, does that make her goth? No. If a metal band is sort of "dark" doesn it make them goth? No.
No one can choose what they like and don't like, and if someone just so happens to like real goth music, and dislikes metal, does that mean they're trying too hard? No, it just means they have different tastes than yours.
@XDarkMoleX And also, people are ALWAYS going to have different tastes than yours. Just because you like COF, doesn't mean you should get all butthurt everytime someone says "I don't like their music". If someone came up to me and tole me they hate Alien Sex Fiend or something, I'd just be like "whatever", instead of getting all pissy and calling them a poseur like an immature preteen bitch..
@ZombieNarcotic What if they came up the you and said alien sex fiend is poser and pathetic? For no reason whatsoever, please don't dogde my posts, because it's starting to piss me off. You keep twisting my and your words to your liking.
Also i've been a "goth" for a long time. Now I never decided to become goth, my way of thinking and lifestyle naturally fits into that subculture. You don't know me in real.
"and to hear them play with a bunch of black metal poseurs is sad." Explain that.
@XDarkMoleX Once again you keep contradicting yourself. You've said "I'm not goth" before, and now you're trying to tell me you are? There are lots of dark-minded individuals, but that doesn't make them goth.
In highschool, I knew a lot of true black metal fans. Go up to ANY of them, they'll tell you COF is just fake mallcore music, not even close to real blackmetal. Maybe I was wrong for calling them poseurs, because it's not my scene, however that's past the original meaning of my 1st post.
@ZombieNarcotic Only quote what i actually say not what you say ,please.
You always fucking quote your own set of words not mine, please learn how to use proper quotes. I merely made a point of your wild assumptions.
Cradle of filth in to round 2000 WAS black metal, now it's changed to EXTREME metal. Get your information right. Also I know what black metal is trust me lol.
This will most probably be my last post, this is getting pointless.
@XDarkMoleX Listen don't argue with that fucking Gothic fan boy akaZombieNarcotic he just listens to those because the adults told him he was a baby bat or a poseur. This is why I gave up the goth scene cause the elders don't even support the young generation and when the kids gets tired of that shit, They "conform" to they're bands from early batcave era just to be true goths. These guys fuck up the true meaning of individuality cause they seem to have the same attitude and the same cockiness.
@666deathghost Yeah right.. I've always been accepted by the older generation. Ever since I was 12, I've known about the batcave, and the real goth scene of the 80's, which they respected. If anything, YOU probably got called a poseur, because you are. I also know many people who are my own age, who would agree that people like you are ruining the culture by making it something that its not. And I'm glad you gave up on the scene, because we (real goths) don't want you mallcore brats in our grave
@ZombieNarcotic How the fuck I ruin the scene. You assholes ruin the scene for your selfs. I guess the media tried to make something out of that scene butfailed cause it got cocky ppl that so stuck on your scene that yu fail to realize ppl is going to hate ya'll more and turn ppl away from it. The more those dick headed adults act like they're so great cause they're feel they started something great the more u guys sound like failed poseurs. It's funny how you all have the same atittude. Clones.
@666deathghost Only a poseur would say "the media tried to make something out of the scene". When a subculture becomes mainstream, it doesn't help the scene, it ruins it. The media only wants to drain the original meaning from the culture to make money off it. And kids like you are a byproduct of this. The media tells people that to be goth, all you have to do is wear black and say "I'm goth now", and people like YOU fall for it. Once again, goth belongs underground away from the mainstream
@ZombieNarcotic Listen to your self you sound more of a poseur everytime you write. No one cares about who is true goth but your conforming goth wannabe ass. I bet you spend the whole day feeling like your a big shot going around calling ppl poseurs just because you think you got full information about your pathetic escuse for a scene. I bet you any advice from the elders of your so called scene and do just that to make you fit in more. You're a fuckin fan boy tring to fit ino that stupid scene.
@XDarkMoleX Just read that assholes comments in how he sucks the whole sub cultures dick by claiming to be true goth just by reading the history and information. I bet he feels real happy now that he a "True Goth" BTW labels are for soup. And why you going around calling ppl poseurs you're acting like him or her in a way. I got no problem with goths it's ust the people in the scene I got beef with.Like I said before there's always some debate on what's a real goth and whats real goth music.
@jazminekill you got to remeber though valor (new singer) is actually the original singer so.... idk his original stuff was good and rozz omg rozz williams :D only new song valor does i like is Angels and Drugs
No one is sure what it's supposed to be. A band that was amazing, then sucked when their singer left, joined up with a band that has always sucked, and made this, which sucks xD
It's more the real Christian Death than fucking Path of Sorrows or any of those shit Cleopatra albums that Rozz made with some of his transgender buddies to support his heroin habit.
@DarkPartikle They're trying to be goth you fucking asshole I bet you listen to Christian Death cause you're tired of the elder goths calling you fucking guys posers and baby bats ain't u. Cradle of Filth is Metal ok. BTW The word Gothic has many different meanings the Goth subculture is not the only ones that has the word goth on it.
YEAH Baby what great idea and nice symbiotic,if i wouldnt know the original it could confuse a bit and make me mistaken!!! Anyway best Songs are:church of no return and painted aura-simple my opinion! AND REMEMBER,-HE'S STILL OUT THERE (maybe we know him)!!! thx for post:D
@BlacknWhitesAlright Cradle of posers thats funny hahahaha.... Rozz Williams is dead and Cradle of filth is not dead. And as for death rock... well you already know the out come of that genre hahahahahahahahahah. Hey you want to bring back the bat cave? Oh I'm sorry thats dead 2 and so is the goth scene thanks to emos scene kids and the Media, but Metal never had that problem now did it?
@voltagejunkie666 Why the fuck would they wste their time with that dead genre? You god to be fucking kidding me fuck that shit. Goth and Death Rock is dead. But I can't waitr til the Media try to bring Death Rock back hahahahaha imagin what will happen.
Bah, it's great! Rozz was a lot better, everyone knows that, but Valor is different... I think he should change the band name, but other than that, it's awesome! (Though, I do seem to be one of the very few who love both Valor and Rozz)
Ok I really love this song! Makes me crazy, makes me feel like helter-skelter :p It just has the right feelings in it. (For me that are: Lust, anger and temptation)
If me luv puts it on I feel like I'm not on the world anymore, I feel like Seduced or something.. o.0
I love that song. I felt like I haven't heard this forever. Pretty beast!
The1930sgothicgirl 1 month ago
Can someone please upload Blood Dance? I can't find it anywhere.
TheLadyPoe 4 months ago
HELL YEAH!!! My favorite band the amazing Cradle of Filth! with the awesome Christian Death! (oh yeah of course this is my favorite christian death song) :D
I love both bands but Cradle is my all time and the best! oh yeah, Dani's vocals is perfect in this song! PEEK A BOO!!!!
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KilledByLifeItself 5 months ago
CD will never be CD with out Rozz, this song would have been super sweet if he sang
monty2249 8 months ago
no thank you goodbye, rozz is turning in his ashes
RozzWilliams69 9 months ago
@RozzWilliams69
Rozz's ashes are scattered in runyon canyon and also sitting in cocaine vials.
Hard to do. :P
Velheim1334 7 months ago
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I don't like Christian Death without Valor, it's just like if another band ripped the name off and called it their own. I love Christian Death without the suck of Rozz.
Lothos666 10 months ago
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I agree fuck you valor
Chaosoda12 10 months ago
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Yep, two crappy bands = double crap.
metronomic1 11 months ago
@metronomic1 triple crap, with you :D
LukasPenso 5 months ago
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Alchetarot 1 year ago
but i like old and new christian death
hobi11able 1 year ago
Just refer to Cradle as Extreme Metal. It's much easier than trying to define every little bit of them because they aren't really any single genre. But on the topic of Black metal, that's stuff like Immortal and Rotting Christ.
ultrarandom 1 year ago
you people are stupid as fuck and know shit of music. cradle of filth is not black metal or has ever been. black metal was an influence to there music. they are extreme gothic metal.
xJx13xCx 1 year ago
@xJx13xCx "extreme gothic metal" LOLOLOL and you say others are stupid as fuck? OMFG, just kill yerself you fucking cabbage farting twat!!!
DaveMoongazer 1 year ago
Black Metal and Deathrock are different scenes, their have some lyrical similarities and their both kickass!!! Other topics to black metal are death/thrash and other topics to deathrock are horror punk/goth.
jazminekill 1 year ago
Cradle Of Shit is more like it
triniscout 1 year ago
@triniscout
COF are just a joke, real black metal is like Burzum, Dark Funeral, and
jazminekill 1 year ago
@jazminekill Too right, mate
DaveMoongazer 1 year ago
@jazminekill LOL Dark funeral are shite you noob
NicolaeWaugh 1 year ago
@NicolaeWaugh
No, I was saying old Dark Funeral are real black metal. However, their newer stuff went down hill.
jazminekill 1 year ago
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linkezecke81 1 year ago
Fiction... You're a moron. Period.
MrTonyAsti 1 year ago
New Christian Death + New Cradle of Filth = Epic Fail! I mean could it be worst? I don't think so.
kamelot667 1 year ago
dani is the best
666blackmetalfly 1 year ago 11
@666blackmetalfly ... cock magnet xD
DaveMoongazer 1 year ago
@666blackmetalfly
Sure he is not.
ZLIgari 4 months ago
Valor is a fag, but this song is alright
BizarreTriangle 1 year ago
I don't know why everyone talks so much shit about them. Cradle is my favorite band, & they've always been an extreme metal band. So they're not "black metal posers". Christian Death is lucky to have played with Cradle,for all the idiots who know nothing about Cradle of Filth & still talk shit; Cradle of Filth is the most recognized band to ever come out of England since Iron Maiden. So take all the shit talking that's coming out of your mouths & shove it up your asses where it belongs.
fiction322 1 year ago 10
@fiction322 Haha yeah, but cradle of filth could never compare to the older Christian Death.
DanceInTheAbyss 8 months ago
@fiction322
Hey americunt, what about Motorhead? Judas Priest? Queen?
Go study history of disneyland and STFU, vermin.
ZLIgari 4 months ago
@fiction322
"Cradle of Filth is the most recognized band to ever come out of England since Iron Maiden."
WHAT?!
ignoranttwat 3 months ago
so gay and fuck the new christian death all they are is a cover band
birinbirinbirin 1 year ago
This is pretty good. I like it, since it includes both artists i like.
Chris12163 1 year ago
Fuck cradle of filth...Christian death are the best!!
vladkz14 1 year ago
génial valor dans celle là et dans we fall like love aussi !
lala799 1 year ago
cof is to good for valor christian death
arkonastriborg123 1 year ago
I would just like 2 say Fuck all the poser ass Cradle of filth haters on this page they oviously don't know any good talent when they here it well thats y cradle is so successful in what they do so u guyz r failed posers that don't know anything but just just lable things and not 2 mentention talkin out ur asses
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost CoF IS famous because of posers... so i really don't know what the hell are you talking...
WhitesnakeRnR 1 year ago
@WhitesnakeRnR They're famous cause they're great stop being ignorent
666deathghost 1 year ago
@WhitesnakeRnR Your most probably a poser from your way of thinking.
Damn it, i hate fucking idiots like you.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX yeeeeeeey you're tough on youtube.. great.. now get a life ^^
WhitesnakeRnR 1 year ago
@WhitesnakeRnR You love to assume don't yah? Not that i love violance, but you really willing to bet everyone on the internet is some weak low-lifer?
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX it's really nice you don't like violence.. i don't assume you're weak, i really don't care... As matter a fact, you assumed i'm poser so i don't see what's your point in that big talk ...
WhitesnakeRnR 1 year ago
@WhitesnakeRnR CoF IS famous because of posers... "
I did not assume, you did :P
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX that's not an assumption ... that's a fact... there is really really few true fans of the band, mos of them are posers who like dressing black, putting makeup and black nails.... and Dani or whatever... that's how they are famous... most of them don't even appreciate music they listen... that's what i said...
WhitesnakeRnR 1 year ago
@WhitesnakeRnR Who made this "fact" you? Who are you then?
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX Valor suck mad dick and Dani actually has more talent than than washed escuse for a Death Rock band Christian Death. That band died as so Rozz left! And you can say COF is poser for being famous but you guys don't play your music for everyone because you know that it's a fucking joke. No one can actually take that shit seriously why Christian Death don't just pack it up it's dead?
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost The band didn't "Die". Just because you don't like Valor does not make the band "dead" and on another note, you're the fucking poser here. You only listen to stuff that isn't popular? You're fucking conforming, Choke on your own blood, and gtfo of videos you don't like okay? Troll.
Also, please refrain from posting on the internet untill you have atleast some logic equivalent to a monkey or more.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX Hey pussy south park goth boy. Lol Conforming???????? Roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!! "I not going to a third world country with rest of the conformist". I swear you guys are fucking poseurs you guys just steady trying to be down with the older goths cause you got tired of being called baby bats so you started getting into earlier Post-Punk and bands like Bauhaus, Sister of Mercy, Joy Division, The Cure etc just to be "True Goths! Oooooooooo "true goths" more like fan boys if you ask me.
666deathghost 1 year ago
I can't believe what Christian Death reduced themselves to. I mean, playing with COF? seriously... Christian Death used to be an amazing deathrock band, and to hear them play with a bunch of black metal poseurs is sad. Rozz would be dissapointed :/
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Christian Death died a long time ago why try to keep this dead genre going? Goth is DEAD! You guy can never bring back the Batcave because teenagers won't listen to that shit. With all do respect lets face it Post Punk is dead Goth is Dead including Death Rock. But Cradle is not so who won here?
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost You couldn't be more wrong. Yes, the goth scene can never be the same as it was in the 80's, thanks to the media and whatnot. However, it's not dead, it just went back underground, which is where it belongs in the first place. The are SO MANY new deathrock bands today, that tour and play in European goth festivals. Metal is more mainstream than goth, and we like it that way.
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Yeah ya'll don't even have unity between the scene no more instead blame the kid. Ya'll even blame them, Marilyn Manson, H.I.M , emos, INDUSTRIAL? WTF!??How Industrial and EBM is the blame for this? Plus Ya'll even course Metal for the scene fucking up. Then the kids of the scene argue and troll on Goth or Industrial music videos on youtube about what is goth and what is not. Seriously how is it that the one word Gothic causes so muck confusion tell me?
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost I don't blame kids for ruining the scene. I'm only 19 yet know more about goth than a lot of old schoolers. And I quite like REAL industrial music. The only problem I have with EBM, is that "goth" club promoters overplay generic EBM with NO goth, simply to make more money off of the indutrial scene. I'm glad the real goth scene is becoming underground, but goth should STAY goth, and not become something it's not just because some uneducated poseurs wish to use the term incorrectly
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Goth is Mainstream 2 but most Mainstream Metal is good i'll have to give them that but the Metal scene is so big and I'm not talk Media wise I'm talking as a hold. There's so much sub-genres of Metal that if you're trying to kill it you will ail epicly (with all do respect) But they don't have a big problem with in the scene like most other genres do. Each sub-genre of Metal just continue to rapidly grom secretely and not so secretely.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost It's funny how you say goth is dead, then turn around and say that it's mainstream. It isn't dead, it just went underground. And as for it being mainstream: well, I've never heard Bauhaus or Clan of Xymox get played on the radio or TV. I never see goth events being advertized in a mainstream setting. You only see goth being sold as nothing but a meer fashion trend, to make money off it, yet the core of the culture remains untouched by the media. Therefore it's still underground.
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic In mainsteam population it's dead to and plus people keep mistaking goths for emos (OMFG I HATE THEM FUCKING PARASITES) Sometimes I wsh Exterminating them pest was legal I have some partners that would like to set alot of them on fire in front of the camra and post it on a random made Youtube acount and show that scene what we think of them. But one can only dream, but back to the subject, If those damn emos gets there hands on them bands it will not be so secrete any more.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Rozz would be dissapointed he had posers (you) for fans.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX hahaha First of all, it's spelled "poseur", you poseur :p
And second, I'm more goth than you'll ever be. Unlike you, I actually listen to Rozz's music, as well as other REAL goth bands, unlike you.
After viewing your profile, it's quite obvious that you're just some mallcore metalhead who will turn "normal" in the next year or so. Go back to Hot Topic *eyeroll*
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic First of all, a true goth would listen to whatever the hell he or she wants to. A True Goth will NOT CONFORM and listen to "goth music" just to appear gothic. Second of all i like both Christian Death (Rozz AND Valor) and Cradle of filth.
Grow up, and stop thinking that everything you assume is true <- Such a childish way of thinking.
Aslo i've never been to hot topic *eyeroll*
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX So you think you're goth, just because you say you are? What if someone who listens to nothing but pop came up to you and said they were goth? Well, you'd probably call them a poseur. Same goes with people who listen to metal. If you'd actually do your research on the history of goth (which you obviously didn't), you'd see that the goth subculture as a whole revolves around the music.
You've never been to HT? Well you'd probably meet a lot of people whom you can relate to ;)
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Who ever said I'm a goth? I'm me. I'm myself.
Also, i've read and researched on the subculture goth for more then 5 years. Please, your knowlegde is a joke compared to mine.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX haha when people say "I'm not goth, I'm just me", it usually translates into "I'll pretend to be goth, but claim to not identify as such, to avoid being called a poseur". And also, I AM goth, so why should I take some metalhead seriously, when they pretend to know about goth. I don't care how much research you've done. I've not only researched for 7 years, but experienced the scene FIRST HAND, and met real goths that have been around in the 80s, who would get a laugh out of you.
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Your a fucking Goth fan boy u more poseur than anyone here. You follow certain steps to fit into that not so great scene. Yeah they should just let that whole scene fall slowly apart so nobody have to here you wannabes cry about how great your scene is and how we're poseurs cause you spend you pathetic life trolling to kids on what goth is. Your scene will continue to be this way until it really finally dies.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost I just love how angry you're getting. All I'm doing is defending the subculture which I'm apart of. And seriously, do you even KNOW what a poseur is? Obviously not. Learn how to spell, then stick with your numetal and shit, the goth scene doesn't need you. No one can choose what they like and dislike. I just so happen to enjoy goth rock, as well as the literature, fashion, etc. I'm not "following steps". Old school deathrockers are the only thing keeping the culture alive.
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Look I don't listen to Nu Metal and your sub culture seems like it's full of wannabe goth kids that think spending they're whole life gathering information about a scene to make you feel more "Goth" I don't care how much you say u listen to Old School Death Rock or Post Punk Goth Rock or what ever, by the way u think you still a poseur. I remember someone on a Garden of Delight video saying that he has been into the scene for 15 years and he said listen to what u lke and do u.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost The deathrock scene is the only authentic form of "goth" nowadays. Go ahead, listen to what you want, but when you take metal and label it as goth, it doesn't make you goth. I don't just sit around and gather info, I've actually been to goth clubs/events/shops all over the place (LA/New York/Phoenix/DC/etc.) and experienced the scene first hand. Goth is goth, metal is metal, punk is punk. You either naturally fit into a scene or you don't, we're just keeping out who don't belong
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Dude why are you telling me this? I have a hard time getting fucking ppl to realize that shit.
i'm a fucking Metal head not a goth just like some post punk goth rock dark wave death rock, matter u know what fuck it i'm into anything I like. Fuck a labels I don't care what they say. I will enjoying my music and call it a day.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Goths don't usually tend on pointless internet fights, also their not assholes, which you clearly are.
One main thing about a True goth is, they won't care to conform with a sterotyped title such as goth. You and you're friends on the other hand seem to love conforming in this stupidity.
A Goth does not give one shit on what others think about him or whether they call him a Poser,chav,goth or metalhead
Now obviously there is more to goth then that, but character limit.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX Well actually, YOU'RE the one who started this "internet fight" by saying "you're a poser", being as the "nongoth" you described.
A true goth would naturally fit into the culture. They don't TRY to listen to the music, but naturally enjoy it
You cant just say "I'm goth cause I say I am"
Stop being such a hypocrite by saying "a true goff would do this and that" then say "I dont use steriotypes". If you don't want to be steriotyped, do us a favor and stay out of the goth scene.
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Erm, once again, I never said i'm a goth, why do you keep telling yourself that? Are you stupid? Seriously are you stupid?
Secondly, only a poser would be insulted if he or she is called a poser.
Why would a true goth be insulted if he is called something he/she is not? It seems to me that you were insulted because, well the truth hurts, does it not?
Lastly, Ironicly I said a goth would do what he or she wants, NOT "would do this and that" as your BullShit quotes say. Ass.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX I never said you were goth, I simply said "stay out of the goth scene", because you seem to think you know everything about it when you don't.
I'm not offended, I'm standing up for myself. There's a difference. My logic is obviously greater than yours, and I shouldn't have to sit around while some metalhead tries to tell what goth is and isn't, to someone who actually IS goth. I hope you die in a moshpit sometime in the next year, cause you'll probably turn "normal" soon anyway :p
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Can you 2 seriously stop argueing? I don't identify with goth, but it's pretty obvious that DarkMole is just trolling, seeing as he thinks constant contradictions and childish namecalling are valid forms of arguments. Just let things go, and (as you said) he'll probably grow out of his little phase pretty soon.
user89076 1 year ago
@user89076 It's not a phase it's a lifestyle, I've been in this "phase" for 8 years now.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic I'll just say this, why would you insult a different group? If your truely a goth, why in the hells do you have to insult CoF fans and CoF themselfs? it was to my understanding that goths love dark art in every form, from music to literature, why would you INSULT an aspect of this dark art, eaven if so you don't like it there is no need for this bullshit.
THAT is my true reason for calling you a poser. Which you blindly ignored.
I do hope i don't have to explain that.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX Just because somethings "dark" doesn't mean it's accepted in the goth subculture. A lot of metal is dark, but it's aggresive and lacks the suspense/melodrama of goth.
Goth isn't synonomous with "anything and everything dark"
I don't go around insulting videos of COF, nor do I even care about them. I was just expressing my opinion that Christian Death used to be a good band, but now sound totally different for the worse imo (they could've at least changed the name :/...)
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic *Sigh* ANYTHING which can be considered dark art, IS Goth in my opinion, now if you want to ONLY go for what the "goth" community says is goth, then you're truely a conformist poser. Sorry.
Also this video is half CoF and you insulted them, just read that comment. Your knowlegde about CoF is nothing, and you go around insulting them JUST because you don't like them. Pathetic.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX Well, you're not goth, so you wouldn't know what goth really is. For example, if Lady Gaga makes a "dark" music video, does that make her goth? No. If a metal band is sort of "dark" doesn it make them goth? No.
No one can choose what they like and don't like, and if someone just so happens to like real goth music, and dislikes metal, does that mean they're trying too hard? No, it just means they have different tastes than yours.
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX And also, people are ALWAYS going to have different tastes than yours. Just because you like COF, doesn't mean you should get all butthurt everytime someone says "I don't like their music". If someone came up to me and tole me they hate Alien Sex Fiend or something, I'd just be like "whatever", instead of getting all pissy and calling them a poseur like an immature preteen bitch..
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic What if they came up the you and said alien sex fiend is poser and pathetic? For no reason whatsoever, please don't dogde my posts, because it's starting to piss me off. You keep twisting my and your words to your liking.
Also i've been a "goth" for a long time. Now I never decided to become goth, my way of thinking and lifestyle naturally fits into that subculture. You don't know me in real.
"and to hear them play with a bunch of black metal poseurs is sad." Explain that.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX Once again you keep contradicting yourself. You've said "I'm not goth" before, and now you're trying to tell me you are? There are lots of dark-minded individuals, but that doesn't make them goth.
In highschool, I knew a lot of true black metal fans. Go up to ANY of them, they'll tell you COF is just fake mallcore music, not even close to real blackmetal. Maybe I was wrong for calling them poseurs, because it's not my scene, however that's past the original meaning of my 1st post.
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Only quote what i actually say not what you say ,please.
You always fucking quote your own set of words not mine, please learn how to use proper quotes. I merely made a point of your wild assumptions.
Cradle of filth in to round 2000 WAS black metal, now it's changed to EXTREME metal. Get your information right. Also I know what black metal is trust me lol.
This will most probably be my last post, this is getting pointless.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX Listen don't argue with that fucking Gothic fan boy akaZombieNarcotic he just listens to those because the adults told him he was a baby bat or a poseur. This is why I gave up the goth scene cause the elders don't even support the young generation and when the kids gets tired of that shit, They "conform" to they're bands from early batcave era just to be true goths. These guys fuck up the true meaning of individuality cause they seem to have the same attitude and the same cockiness.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost Yeah right.. I've always been accepted by the older generation. Ever since I was 12, I've known about the batcave, and the real goth scene of the 80's, which they respected. If anything, YOU probably got called a poseur, because you are. I also know many people who are my own age, who would agree that people like you are ruining the culture by making it something that its not. And I'm glad you gave up on the scene, because we (real goths) don't want you mallcore brats in our grave
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic How the fuck I ruin the scene. You assholes ruin the scene for your selfs. I guess the media tried to make something out of that scene butfailed cause it got cocky ppl that so stuck on your scene that yu fail to realize ppl is going to hate ya'll more and turn ppl away from it. The more those dick headed adults act like they're so great cause they're feel they started something great the more u guys sound like failed poseurs. It's funny how you all have the same atittude. Clones.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost Only a poseur would say "the media tried to make something out of the scene". When a subculture becomes mainstream, it doesn't help the scene, it ruins it. The media only wants to drain the original meaning from the culture to make money off it. And kids like you are a byproduct of this. The media tells people that to be goth, all you have to do is wear black and say "I'm goth now", and people like YOU fall for it. Once again, goth belongs underground away from the mainstream
ZombieNarcotic 1 year ago
@ZombieNarcotic Listen to your self you sound more of a poseur everytime you write. No one cares about who is true goth but your conforming goth wannabe ass. I bet you spend the whole day feeling like your a big shot going around calling ppl poseurs just because you think you got full information about your pathetic escuse for a scene. I bet you any advice from the elders of your so called scene and do just that to make you fit in more. You're a fuckin fan boy tring to fit ino that stupid scene.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX Just read that assholes comments in how he sucks the whole sub cultures dick by claiming to be true goth just by reading the history and information. I bet he feels real happy now that he a "True Goth" BTW labels are for soup. And why you going around calling ppl poseurs you're acting like him or her in a way. I got no problem with goths it's ust the people in the scene I got beef with.Like I said before there's always some debate on what's a real goth and whats real goth music.
666deathghost 1 year ago
@666deathghost "Pussy south park goth boy" Okay sorry, now I just can't take you guys seriously, it's hilarious! (You're an asshole)
On a second note, you got your quotes wrong.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@XDarkMoleX ok :-)
666deathghost 1 year ago
ICAR SMITH-SOLO
THEVAMPIRELAIR 1 year ago
I don't like new Christian Death, it's just like if another band ripped the name off and called it their own. I love old Christian Death.
jazminekill 2 years ago 11
@jazminekill you got to remeber though valor (new singer) is actually the original singer so.... idk his original stuff was good and rozz omg rozz williams :D only new song valor does i like is Angels and Drugs
cybergothpunkfreak 1 year ago
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777adema 1 year ago
@jazminekill the only thing similar is there name.
Death1rock1334 1 year ago
@jazminekill Rozz was the best Valor sucks...
EdibleViolas0 10 months ago 2
hahahahahaha rozz williams Rulz!!, not that shit... Cradre of Shit jajajajaja XD
lordZoeth 2 years ago
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SatanicMidian 2 years ago
gaylord
chicken138 2 years ago
i dont get it, what is this suppose to be? its sounds pretty cool though
nokturnalmortom666 2 years ago
No one is sure what it's supposed to be. A band that was amazing, then sucked when their singer left, joined up with a band that has always sucked, and made this, which sucks xD
Boy75402 2 years ago
what the fuck is this
no seriously
formaldehydekat 2 years ago 2
i like this song <3
FlorBunbury 2 years ago
ahh??
chicagocapo79 2 years ago
everyone should be allowed to make any kind of musik they want, unless you want to have your personal freedom, too,
Bloodredswan 2 years ago
heh...If you consider covering someone else's music without giving the original artist credit personal freedom...sure.
Glowb0t 2 years ago
Not the real Christian Death. Fuck valor. Also, the only Alternative song that should be titled "peek-a-boo" is the original one by siouxsie.
Glowb0t 2 years ago 3
Agreed whole heartedly.
MasterBlade4 2 years ago
<3 hey you
Glowb0t 2 years ago
Hey Lutia!
MasterBlade4 2 years ago
Yeah here I was thinking this would be a cover lol.
zenbyo 2 years ago
yeah I sighed in relief when I discovered it wasn't a cover.
Glowb0t 2 years ago
hahahaha me too *sighs*
AdicktivelyCute 2 years ago
It's more the real Christian Death than fucking Path of Sorrows or any of those shit Cleopatra albums that Rozz made with some of his transgender buddies to support his heroin habit.
RoseCrossVato 2 years ago
Nope, this version with Valor SUCKS!!!
pnkroq 2 years ago
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SatanicMidian 2 years ago
Valor and Rozz are both good, its a matter of personal tastes.
I like both
vanuaturocks 2 years ago
I think Cradle should stop trying to be Goth because they are not. btw Valor sucks. Rozz rocks.
DarkPartikle 2 years ago
Well they aint Black Metal either...Idc whatever they attempt to be, aslong as they stop trying to be Black Metal.
MiT03II 2 years ago
Have you guys at any point stopped and thought they were being themselves?
Who gives a fuck if they don't fit in any single genre?
They make some damn good music, and so does Christian Death.
Grave187RIP13 2 years ago 8
@Grave187RIP13
i agree
Rifou812 1 year ago
They only tried 2 first records...
If you actually bother to check out
Principles of Evil Made Flesh.. you would see what I meaned
They never tried asswipe... they WERE!!!!
Go do homework before embaress yourself and run home crying to mommy for being an idiot at your own expense.
MajinCCBThePrince 2 years ago
Fucking moron, Cradle never said they were goth.. they call themselves a HORROR band...
study before making a jackass of yourself
MajinCCBThePrince 2 years ago
@DarkPartikle They're trying to be goth you fucking asshole I bet you listen to Christian Death cause you're tired of the elder goths calling you fucking guys posers and baby bats ain't u. Cradle of Filth is Metal ok. BTW The word Gothic has many different meanings the Goth subculture is not the only ones that has the word goth on it.
666deathghost 1 year ago
YEAH Baby what great idea and nice symbiotic,if i wouldnt know the original it could confuse a bit and make me mistaken!!! Anyway best Songs are:church of no return and painted aura-simple my opinion! AND REMEMBER,-HE'S STILL OUT THERE (maybe we know him)!!! thx for post:D
halfmoonIVth 2 years ago
fuck you again....peek-a-boo icu
se7en154 2 years ago
fuck you
se7en154 2 years ago
ia se me pewo sta pegajosa puff
punkpachas 2 years ago
God, this is fucking horrible. Rozz wouldn't have touched Cradle of Posers with a ten-foot pole.
BlacknWhitesAlright 2 years ago 4
@BlacknWhitesAlright Rozz is not a retarded asshole like you.
Don't put other people with your idiotic mind.
XDarkMoleX 1 year ago
@BlacknWhitesAlright Cradle of posers thats funny hahahaha.... Rozz Williams is dead and Cradle of filth is not dead. And as for death rock... well you already know the out come of that genre hahahahahahahahahah. Hey you want to bring back the bat cave? Oh I'm sorry thats dead 2 and so is the goth scene thanks to emos scene kids and the Media, but Metal never had that problem now did it?
666deathghost 1 year ago
favorite song from valor's christian death.
rozz was better, but this is still good
VampLuva 2 years ago 2
I think it's "Born Again Anti-Christian"
Hope that helps :)
gothkamikaze 2 years ago
e perfect combination :D
svartjobb 3 years ago
awesome <33333
blacksakurasushi 3 years ago
i think this is quite rare and yet satisfing
Rendervouswithlove 3 years ago
cradle of filth would be a deathrock band if it werent for their record company
voltagejunkie666 3 years ago
They would actually be good if it weren't for Roadrunner.
xfunereal 2 years ago
@voltagejunkie666 Why the fuck would they wste their time with that dead genre? You god to be fucking kidding me fuck that shit. Goth and Death Rock is dead. But I can't waitr til the Media try to bring Death Rock back hahahahaha imagin what will happen.
666deathghost 1 year ago
wow!
cuarta0aumentada 3 years ago
god what happened to christian death? valor should be hung by his neck and set on fire.
SpecimenSlut 3 years ago 2
Bah, it's great! Rozz was a lot better, everyone knows that, but Valor is different... I think he should change the band name, but other than that, it's awesome! (Though, I do seem to be one of the very few who love both Valor and Rozz)
AwakenedSomnabulist 3 years ago
the fucking best!!!
nark500 3 years ago
Ok I really love this song! Makes me crazy, makes me feel like helter-skelter :p It just has the right feelings in it. (For me that are: Lust, anger and temptation)
If me luv puts it on I feel like I'm not on the world anymore, I feel like Seduced or something.. o.0
So yea, thats what I think ^^, *kisses*
kipjah 3 years ago
Great songs i love them. Hey Chemicals from what album is this song from ?? I am talking about Cradle's song ??
Metalica695 3 years ago
It's from Born Again Anti-Christian by Christian Death :)
BloodySanitarium 3 years ago
Checked cool
Metalica695 3 years ago
Awesome song, love the high-hat bass mix duet going on, plus Dani Filth is a fucking badass too, so that helps.
RockerboyJohn 3 years ago
i love this song :D
Legenda91 3 years ago
GENIAL !!!! J'ADORE !!!!!!!
lala799 3 years ago 2
no better mix in the world!! :D
2 GREAT pioneer goth bands
Christian Death AND Cradle Of Filth
a match made in Heaven.. or hell?
Obscurechild33 3 years ago
Cradle of Filth is as much a pioneer of goth music as Britney Spears.
Who let this happen?
catacombkittenz 3 years ago
cradle started the "dark metal" stuff, but no way in hell goth, and this isn't even the original christian death lineup.
i do like this song though. it's kind of my guilty pleasure.
SpeshelEdTed 3 years ago 3
Yes really great stuff!!! 5/5 and fav!!
Hexenweib1971 3 years ago 2