wait sikhs n hindus r different clans or cast i never knew that i just thought it was only hindus n muslims n nothing else can someone please tell more about india's tribe.
Britishers made us fight and we fools fought with each other ...
They divided India...and we always abuse each other ...
Whatever happens is done by our politicians ...
but we blame on each other...
No one of us is coming ahead to save the country...but Indians and Pakistanis when talk with each other, they show that they r so much patriotic..!!!!!
There was great crime committed by all side's. Your right the Sikh faith does not condone the killing of innocents whoever they may be so what some Sikhs did was against their faith. The difference is that when it come's to Islam that religion see's the killing of non-muslim innocents as good practice in war. Judge a faith by those that adhere to it not those that don't. In practice that means a Muslim adherent would kill innocent's and a adherent Sikh would not.
There was great crime committed by all side's. Your right the Sikh faith does not condone the killing of innocents whoever they may be so what some Sikhs did was against their faith. The difference is that when it come's to Islam that religion see's the killing of non-muslim innocents as good practice in war. Judge a faith by those that adhere to it not those that don't. In practice that means a Muslim adherent would kill innocent's and a adherent Sikh would not.
Actually its the opposite of what you say puffdaddy786. Muslims marauded around killing sikhs and Hindus..Wow you are happy for 1984, that tells that your a bigot, racist scum..You are happy that thousands of innocent people were killed....I could also say that I am happy for the Gujarat Riots, it taught the muslim idiots a good lesson..But I would not say that because I am not a fuckin racist like you....
oh yes i can see it now. How barbarous these sikhs were. The Muslims never did anything wrong, its not as if they did the same, or that they could have initiated the attacks. No im sure it was the Indians who wanted to have their own homeland seperate from Pakistan.
Kind of makes you wonder what happened when the Muslim faith arrived to India in the first place. Absolutely no chance that they did anything wrong. Right?
most of the killing was done by sikh fanatics running around with knives. sikhism is a fanatic terrorist religion. what kind of a religion tells its followers to run around with a knife all the time ? these same fanatics are now asking for khalistan.
I am happy for 1984, it taught these sikh idiots a good lesson.
Thanks for backing that up with evidence for me.now i really know what you say is credible.
"I am happy for 1984, it taught these sikh idiots a good lesson "
To anyone else here i dont think i need to point out what is so evidently wrong with this statement.Quite obviously you are a worthless human being who thinks mass murder is a good thing.
Heres a tip, if you want to defend pakistan's reputation then side with the indians. You're a liability.
well 1984 was a good thing in the sense it broke the sikh fanatical myth that they were some kind of "defenders of hindus". the "brave" sikhs who run around with knives in their turban shitted in their pants and 3000 of these sikh idiots were sent to hell in a matter of days by hindu rioters.
my grandparents came to Pakistan in trains which were constantly attacked by these sikh fanatics.
sikhs couldn't live with muslims, and now they can't live with hindus. sikhs are trouble makers
i think you're still missing the point.the exact same thing happened to many Sikhs and hindus who were crossing over to India.besides, it was the muslims who wanted a seperate state in the first place because such was their intolerance for others.
And if you are seriously going to deny what Guru Tegh Bahadur sacrificed for the Hindu's then i would direct you to any kind of historical source on the matter
Finally, Islam is responsible for so many deaths its almost incalculable.Dont blame others
well we Muslims knew that once the british are gone, we would become second-class citizens in India. We Muslims ruled most of India for 600 years and thanks to the british we lost all our wealth and power. during partition, muslims were poor peasants and most properties owned by hindus.
Muslims in India are the poorest community and always at the mercy of hindu. In india democracy means majority-dictatorship. at least Muslims in Pakistan are free.
Yes well i must concede that the Muslim leadership was far more organised and pragmatic and so did make the best of the situation.
Without trying to sound picky, i believe that the whole of Punjab was under the ruele of Maharaja Ranjit Singh before the British came not the Muslims(i presume you meant the Moghuls).
However it must be noted that people of all faiths lived equally side by side during that period. I believe colonialism too played it part, rather than just demonising religions.
maharaja ranjit singh and others like him were a bunch of bandits. sikhs only controled punjab for 100 years and the only reason they even did that was that the Mughals were fighting the british for a long time and got weak. in that chaos in punjab couple of former bandits like ranjit singh took over punjab.
anyway, I hope you people fight for your khalistan and we would just sit and watch the show...
Moghuls were long gone by the time Ranjit Singh came to power.Due to a long drawn out Guerrila warfare with the Sikh's in Punjab they simply didnt have enough men or resources left to occupy punjab,so they had to withdraw to afghanistan.Ahmend Shah Abdali(successor to Nadir Shah) failed to recapture Punjab as did Timur(His son).
Whatever Moghul presence there was,had been broken and was gradually removed or taken over by one of the misls. Hari Singh Nalwa closed the pass from Afghanistan.
"Heres a tip, if you want to defend pakistan's reputation then side with the indians. You're a liability. "
side with indians for reputation ? LOL India has no reputation. India is a land where they contantly have riots and mass genocides every couple of years. the 1984 anti-sikh riots were organized by the hindu-dominated government !!!! the hindu police stood by as if the rioters were part of a comedy show.
in India minorities have to suck hindu balls to get ahead.
And yes, it is true that minorities are often treated badly in india. However if you honestly think that that is a justification for your Islamic supremecist views then im afraid you are wrong.
"minorities have to suck hindu balls to get ahead"
How eloquent... but im not taking the bait.
"side with indians for reputation ?"
My point was that you are so bad at arguing that you do Pakistan more bad than good with your weak arguments. So join India.
Great movie.But Hindu, Sikh, Baptist, Catholic etc. it"s all just a bunch of MAN-MADE DOGMA not endorsed by God. Terrorists = lowest form human life = slime mold. Bombing Air India 182, 25 years ago 90% of plane filled with my fellow citizens. Terrorists = cowards posing as auto mechanics, mill workers, businessmen etc. in MY COMMUNITY pretending to be kind-friendly for the chance to murder. Instead of standing in public & fighting for their beliefs they chose to skulk & plot MASS MURDERS.
Another valid point is not to take movies literally. Ther are also BBC documentries as well as movies that show muslims started the carnage. Most important is to understand that it is a movie and not reality.
As you can see from moiz017's last comment your historical studies and advice to take entertainment for what it is, entertainment, is fruitless. There will always be two sharply diverting versions of history, sdhesy: The Muslim interpretation of history, where they are always the victims and do no wrong and factual history.
It's a shame that the former exists as the lessons that we learn from history are so painfully important in ensuring that we don't repeat the atrocities.
Most important thing o remember is that thos individuals who created these attrocites.........do they really bare and religious name?.............do they really believe in God? My grandfather always told me how Gundai from all sides were the rason for the mess while innocent hard working people got caught up in the flames and there rage in return spread the flames even further.
The intial riots in Punjab strted out in Rawalpindi in March of 1947. Rawalpindi at the time was majority Muslim and as a result Sikhs and Hindus will always state that Muslims started it but rality is no one knows for sure. Muslims who lived in prodominatly Sikh villages who were slaughtered will always say Sikhs started it.
Actually let me interject. I have throughly stidied the history of Punjab in this time frame. If anyone would like various texts from all sides i will gladly list them.
sikh bastards. they were the fighting sword of hindus. there religion says never harm the innocent, dont attack the unarmed. all bullshit. they were just used to kill and rape muslims. and look what hindus did to them in 1984. so many of them were killed. what goes around, comes around. Hindus can never be friends with muslims or sikhs. period.
I understand that you may not like sikhs or hindus, even though I don't share your views...But please, refrain from writing hateful things on the videos I've posted...You should respect other people's religions and ways of life. I'm a Catholic and I have nothing whatsoever against your religion, even though there's a lot of Christians that can't abide Muslims...So I'm just saying, RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE4S FAITH!!!
I might think what you believe is foolish and delusional, but I recognize that it is your right to believe what you want just as it is mine. Tolerance PEOPE we can do it!
perhaps u dont know history....i have done extensive study on partition. when everything failed on the table, they (hindus and sikhs) killed hapless muslims going to their promised homeland. maximum atrocities by sikhs were done in amritsar, gurdaspur, ferozpur and lahore. Muslims got what they wanted so they never had any problems. it was the sikhs who could not see punjab getting divided and got mad at that. go do your homework first and then talk.
I hate to say it, moiz, but this is a typical distorted Muslim view of history. Try studying the genuine article and you will see that there is not a religious or ethnic group on the face of the earth today who does not have blood on their hands...including the Muslims.
I never said muslims are free of any blood from their hand. Yes muslims also did commit crimes against humanity because at the end of the day they are also humans. But in respect to partition, muslims did not start the carnage, the hindus and sikhs together started it. This movie itself shows it. Go read history.
The problems in Lahore, where this movie is placed, were started by radical Muslims. Go STUDY history, as opposed to just reading of it what pleases you.
yeah anything the hindus and sikhs did is a fictitious recreation and anything that happened in REAL was done by muslims. how convenient!!!!! Muslims got what they wanted. they meant no harm. When trains from Indian punjab carried slaughtered muslims, then riots started in pakistan punjab. Maybe you are just another RSS or Hindutva agent. I pity you.
Study the Lahore Massacre. I didn't say that Muslims were responsible for the entirety of the atrocities during partition, however, in the case of Lahore they were.
So sad that it's rare to run into a Muslim that one can have intelligent debate with. It always turns into the Muslim making accusations or name calling.
@moiz017 There was great crime committed by all side's. Your right the Sikh faith does not condone the killing of innocents whoever they may be so what some Sikhs did was against their faith. The difference is that when it come's to Islam that religion see's the killing of non-muslim innocents as good practice in war. Judge a faith by those that adhere to it not those that don't. In practice that means a Muslim adherent would kill innocent's and a adherent Sikh would not.
@celticarse they are paying because they have abandoned islam and its practices. but now they are coming back to their senses. as long as we dont abandon islam, no non muslim can harm us.
@moiz017 Islam also teaches us not to kill innocent people. I'm muslim and I would never hate on another Hindu or Sikh. It's not religion that's in fault but the wrongful INTERPRETATION of it. you can't blame just one religion.
I ONLY hate sikhs and hindus who have animosity and hatred towards muslims. what do you know about the hatred and sick feelings these extremist hindu faggots have for the poor muslims and other minorities in India. Its easy to talk sitting in canada. come to india and see the reality.
@withlove911 I am not going hyper. I only expressed my views as all others here are. the movie is actually good one. it does show the reality of marauding hindu and sikh mobs attacking muslim refugees. i am not saying muslims didn't commit atrocities. they did but not to the scale of hindus and sikhs. afterall muslims are also humans.
sikh kill muslim 1947 then God show then 1984.
MrZamanpk100 2 months ago
HMM if the muslims were leaving to pakistan why the hell did the hindus start killing them?
msontario18 2 months ago
wait sikhs n hindus r different clans or cast i never knew that i just thought it was only hindus n muslims n nothing else can someone please tell more about india's tribe.
Mandinko23 1 year ago
Britishers made us fight and we fools fought with each other ...
They divided India...and we always abuse each other ...
Whatever happens is done by our politicians ...
but we blame on each other...
No one of us is coming ahead to save the country...but Indians and Pakistanis when talk with each other, they show that they r so much patriotic..!!!!!
SunnyChawla1992 1 year ago
Really beautiful movie, thanks for sharing it. ^^
vatanparast70000000 1 year ago
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There was great crime committed by all side's. Your right the Sikh faith does not condone the killing of innocents whoever they may be so what some Sikhs did was against their faith. The difference is that when it come's to Islam that religion see's the killing of non-muslim innocents as good practice in war. Judge a faith by those that adhere to it not those that don't. In practice that means a Muslim adherent would kill innocent's and a adherent Sikh would not.
celticarse 1 year ago
There was great crime committed by all side's. Your right the Sikh faith does not condone the killing of innocents whoever they may be so what some Sikhs did was against their faith. The difference is that when it come's to Islam that religion see's the killing of non-muslim innocents as good practice in war. Judge a faith by those that adhere to it not those that don't. In practice that means a Muslim adherent would kill innocent's and a adherent Sikh would not.
celticarse 1 year ago
Actually its the opposite of what you say puffdaddy786. Muslims marauded around killing sikhs and Hindus..Wow you are happy for 1984, that tells that your a bigot, racist scum..You are happy that thousands of innocent people were killed....I could also say that I am happy for the Gujarat Riots, it taught the muslim idiots a good lesson..But I would not say that because I am not a fuckin racist like you....
MrDoaba1 2 years ago 2
oh yes i can see it now. How barbarous these sikhs were. The Muslims never did anything wrong, its not as if they did the same, or that they could have initiated the attacks. No im sure it was the Indians who wanted to have their own homeland seperate from Pakistan.
Kind of makes you wonder what happened when the Muslim faith arrived to India in the first place. Absolutely no chance that they did anything wrong. Right?
skeptic54 2 years ago
listen you faggot,
most of the killing was done by sikh fanatics running around with knives. sikhism is a fanatic terrorist religion. what kind of a religion tells its followers to run around with a knife all the time ? these same fanatics are now asking for khalistan.
I am happy for 1984, it taught these sikh idiots a good lesson.
PuffDaddy786 2 years ago
"most of the killing was done by sikh fanatics"
Thanks for backing that up with evidence for me.now i really know what you say is credible.
"I am happy for 1984, it taught these sikh idiots a good lesson "
To anyone else here i dont think i need to point out what is so evidently wrong with this statement.Quite obviously you are a worthless human being who thinks mass murder is a good thing.
Heres a tip, if you want to defend pakistan's reputation then side with the indians. You're a liability.
skeptic54 2 years ago
well 1984 was a good thing in the sense it broke the sikh fanatical myth that they were some kind of "defenders of hindus". the "brave" sikhs who run around with knives in their turban shitted in their pants and 3000 of these sikh idiots were sent to hell in a matter of days by hindu rioters.
my grandparents came to Pakistan in trains which were constantly attacked by these sikh fanatics.
sikhs couldn't live with muslims, and now they can't live with hindus. sikhs are trouble makers
PuffDaddy786 2 years ago
i think you're still missing the point.the exact same thing happened to many Sikhs and hindus who were crossing over to India.besides, it was the muslims who wanted a seperate state in the first place because such was their intolerance for others.
And if you are seriously going to deny what Guru Tegh Bahadur sacrificed for the Hindu's then i would direct you to any kind of historical source on the matter
Finally, Islam is responsible for so many deaths its almost incalculable.Dont blame others
skeptic54 2 years ago
well we Muslims knew that once the british are gone, we would become second-class citizens in India. We Muslims ruled most of India for 600 years and thanks to the british we lost all our wealth and power. during partition, muslims were poor peasants and most properties owned by hindus.
Muslims in India are the poorest community and always at the mercy of hindu. In india democracy means majority-dictatorship. at least Muslims in Pakistan are free.
PuffDaddy786 2 years ago
Yes well i must concede that the Muslim leadership was far more organised and pragmatic and so did make the best of the situation.
Without trying to sound picky, i believe that the whole of Punjab was under the ruele of Maharaja Ranjit Singh before the British came not the Muslims(i presume you meant the Moghuls).
However it must be noted that people of all faiths lived equally side by side during that period. I believe colonialism too played it part, rather than just demonising religions.
skeptic54 2 years ago
maharaja ranjit singh and others like him were a bunch of bandits. sikhs only controled punjab for 100 years and the only reason they even did that was that the Mughals were fighting the british for a long time and got weak. in that chaos in punjab couple of former bandits like ranjit singh took over punjab.
anyway, I hope you people fight for your khalistan and we would just sit and watch the show...
PuffDaddy786 2 years ago
Moghuls were long gone by the time Ranjit Singh came to power.Due to a long drawn out Guerrila warfare with the Sikh's in Punjab they simply didnt have enough men or resources left to occupy punjab,so they had to withdraw to afghanistan.Ahmend Shah Abdali(successor to Nadir Shah) failed to recapture Punjab as did Timur(His son).
Whatever Moghul presence there was,had been broken and was gradually removed or taken over by one of the misls. Hari Singh Nalwa closed the pass from Afghanistan.
skeptic54 2 years ago
"Heres a tip, if you want to defend pakistan's reputation then side with the indians. You're a liability. "
side with indians for reputation ? LOL India has no reputation. India is a land where they contantly have riots and mass genocides every couple of years. the 1984 anti-sikh riots were organized by the hindu-dominated government !!!! the hindu police stood by as if the rioters were part of a comedy show.
in India minorities have to suck hindu balls to get ahead.
PuffDaddy786 2 years ago
what so you only just read my reply?honestly?
And yes, it is true that minorities are often treated badly in india. However if you honestly think that that is a justification for your Islamic supremecist views then im afraid you are wrong.
"minorities have to suck hindu balls to get ahead"
How eloquent... but im not taking the bait.
"side with indians for reputation ?"
My point was that you are so bad at arguing that you do Pakistan more bad than good with your weak arguments. So join India.
skeptic54 2 years ago
Great movie.But Hindu, Sikh, Baptist, Catholic etc. it"s all just a bunch of MAN-MADE DOGMA not endorsed by God. Terrorists = lowest form human life = slime mold. Bombing Air India 182, 25 years ago 90% of plane filled with my fellow citizens. Terrorists = cowards posing as auto mechanics, mill workers, businessmen etc. in MY COMMUNITY pretending to be kind-friendly for the chance to murder. Instead of standing in public & fighting for their beliefs they chose to skulk & plot MASS MURDERS.
suelizjohnson 2 years ago
no point in wasting time on discussing who started the riots.
Simply put - whereever there are muslims there are problems...
the only way to get rid of problems is to stomp out islam itself.... and that has to be done collectively, effectively and efficently.
desisher16 2 years ago
There's no point in discussing who started the riots.
All we know is this - wherever there's a single muslim, the problem starts.
The moment muslims attain a critical mass, the quantam of problem becomes bigger....
Hence, islam in itself has to be rooted out completely!
desisher16 2 years ago
keep dreaming desigadhey!!!!!
moiz017 2 years ago
Another valid point is not to take movies literally. Ther are also BBC documentries as well as movies that show muslims started the carnage. Most important is to understand that it is a movie and not reality.
sdhesy 2 years ago
As you can see from moiz017's last comment your historical studies and advice to take entertainment for what it is, entertainment, is fruitless. There will always be two sharply diverting versions of history, sdhesy: The Muslim interpretation of history, where they are always the victims and do no wrong and factual history.
It's a shame that the former exists as the lessons that we learn from history are so painfully important in ensuring that we don't repeat the atrocities.
thegirl44 2 years ago
Most important thing o remember is that thos individuals who created these attrocites.........do they really bare and religious name?.............do they really believe in God? My grandfather always told me how Gundai from all sides were the rason for the mess while innocent hard working people got caught up in the flames and there rage in return spread the flames even further.
sdhesy 2 years ago
The intial riots in Punjab strted out in Rawalpindi in March of 1947. Rawalpindi at the time was majority Muslim and as a result Sikhs and Hindus will always state that Muslims started it but rality is no one knows for sure. Muslims who lived in prodominatly Sikh villages who were slaughtered will always say Sikhs started it.
sdhesy 2 years ago
Actually let me interject. I have throughly stidied the history of Punjab in this time frame. If anyone would like various texts from all sides i will gladly list them.
sdhesy 2 years ago
sikh bastards. they were the fighting sword of hindus. there religion says never harm the innocent, dont attack the unarmed. all bullshit. they were just used to kill and rape muslims. and look what hindus did to them in 1984. so many of them were killed. what goes around, comes around. Hindus can never be friends with muslims or sikhs. period.
moiz017 2 years ago
I understand that you may not like sikhs or hindus, even though I don't share your views...But please, refrain from writing hateful things on the videos I've posted...You should respect other people's religions and ways of life. I'm a Catholic and I have nothing whatsoever against your religion, even though there's a lot of Christians that can't abide Muslims...So I'm just saying, RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE4S FAITH!!!
Doigtsdepoussiere 2 years ago 14
goto part 16 of your movie and check out what lasog341 has commented.
what do you have to say now? do you turn a blind eye to comments made by non muslims on muslims?
moiz017 2 years ago
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gujit81 2 years ago
@Doigtsdepoussiere
It isn't even about respect its about tolerance.
I might think what you believe is foolish and delusional, but I recognize that it is your right to believe what you want just as it is mine. Tolerance PEOPE we can do it!
polo12guard 1 year ago
this never happened sikhs never killed muslims ever hindus killed muslims.
lasog341 2 years ago
perhaps u dont know history....i have done extensive study on partition. when everything failed on the table, they (hindus and sikhs) killed hapless muslims going to their promised homeland. maximum atrocities by sikhs were done in amritsar, gurdaspur, ferozpur and lahore. Muslims got what they wanted so they never had any problems. it was the sikhs who could not see punjab getting divided and got mad at that. go do your homework first and then talk.
moiz017 2 years ago
@moiz017 what a myopic study you did. Was that study done to massage your own ego.
pharkle35 2 years ago
another RSS or hindutva dog barking from behind the computer screen...
moiz017 2 years ago
I hate to say it, moiz, but this is a typical distorted Muslim view of history. Try studying the genuine article and you will see that there is not a religious or ethnic group on the face of the earth today who does not have blood on their hands...including the Muslims.
thegirl44 2 years ago
I never said muslims are free of any blood from their hand. Yes muslims also did commit crimes against humanity because at the end of the day they are also humans. But in respect to partition, muslims did not start the carnage, the hindus and sikhs together started it. This movie itself shows it. Go read history.
moiz017 2 years ago
THIS MOVIE is a fictitious recreation.
The problems in Lahore, where this movie is placed, were started by radical Muslims. Go STUDY history, as opposed to just reading of it what pleases you.
thegirl44 2 years ago
yeah anything the hindus and sikhs did is a fictitious recreation and anything that happened in REAL was done by muslims. how convenient!!!!! Muslims got what they wanted. they meant no harm. When trains from Indian punjab carried slaughtered muslims, then riots started in pakistan punjab. Maybe you are just another RSS or Hindutva agent. I pity you.
moiz017 2 years ago
Study the Lahore Massacre. I didn't say that Muslims were responsible for the entirety of the atrocities during partition, however, in the case of Lahore they were.
So sad that it's rare to run into a Muslim that one can have intelligent debate with. It always turns into the Muslim making accusations or name calling.
thegirl44 2 years ago
yeah yeah yeah, as if we muslims only indulge in name calling.
moiz017 2 years ago
@moiz017 oops sorry I meant to hit the thumb UP key... how true you are..
suelizjohnson 2 years ago
I take it you completely misunderstood the point of this movie, moiz017?
thegirl44 2 years ago
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@moiz017 There was great crime committed by all side's. Your right the Sikh faith does not condone the killing of innocents whoever they may be so what some Sikhs did was against their faith. The difference is that when it come's to Islam that religion see's the killing of non-muslim innocents as good practice in war. Judge a faith by those that adhere to it not those that don't. In practice that means a Muslim adherent would kill innocent's and a adherent Sikh would not.
celticarse 1 year ago
@moiz017 So by your what goes around comes around standard, what crime were the Muslims of Gujrat paying for in 2002?
celticarse 1 year ago
@celticarse they are paying because they have abandoned islam and its practices. but now they are coming back to their senses. as long as we dont abandon islam, no non muslim can harm us.
moiz017 1 year ago 2
@moiz017 except only Jews hahahaha
shotbod 1 year ago
@moiz017 Islam also teaches us not to kill innocent people. I'm muslim and I would never hate on another Hindu or Sikh. It's not religion that's in fault but the wrongful INTERPRETATION of it. you can't blame just one religion.
withlove911 1 year ago 9
@withlove911
I ONLY hate sikhs and hindus who have animosity and hatred towards muslims. what do you know about the hatred and sick feelings these extremist hindu faggots have for the poor muslims and other minorities in India. Its easy to talk sitting in canada. come to india and see the reality.
moiz017 1 year ago
@moiz017 calm yourself, it's only a movie.
withlove911 1 year ago
@withlove911 I am not going hyper. I only expressed my views as all others here are. the movie is actually good one. it does show the reality of marauding hindu and sikh mobs attacking muslim refugees. i am not saying muslims didn't commit atrocities. they did but not to the scale of hindus and sikhs. afterall muslims are also humans.
moiz017 1 year ago
@moiz017 it happened from both sides!
youcantwrestle 1 year ago
@moiz017 no you're the bastard
youcantwrestle 1 year ago
atrocities over there are very stark
Amarventris 2 years ago
omg the litttle babys! awhh this is inceridlble saaad
ticklle 2 years ago 4
omg thankss for this.I love kristin Kreuk!
hirumaakuma 3 years ago 2